#Damage Challenge
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Second nuke better with silver coz sandstorm + sprint effect
Then triple fairy
Awesome
Looks like these 2 DC will be interesting
1/5 ss diantha vs 2/5 nc silver
3/5 ss diantha vs 3/5 nc silver 
Holy poopoo rock techs suck
Innates are either kekwalk, or flinch, or rock damage field 
Or worse, kukui who sets fields
Sync with red
Sync with Wally
Bmove gladion
Sync gladion
Bmove gladion
wally.
What wally doing?
sprint+adrenaline
But who spams?
I think it was really not more on Sync Spam
Dc blue can't spam
oh
But more on tactical nuke with B Move
Gladion can replenish his B Move once
Only a matter of seeing if that will net higher overall dmg than sync spam
SS Wally's dmg boost is better than Penny bc -1 rebuff and zone is 1.3*1.5 (both on aoe)
-2 rebuff is only *1.5
Wally debuffs spatk for gladion too
I wonder if it's possible to do Wally Sync > Penny Sync > Gladion Sync x2 > fire off +10 SMUN B Move on a Rebuff 3 + Zone
All in 3 mins
Might not be necessarily the best way but I'd definitely want to see that lol
While indeed there was rare cases that a comp favors pure DPS instead of sync spam strat, I really don't think SS Gladion would be it.
+10 smun bmove at the end got like 250k with nc marnie for me
Is that total or each target
Lmao
so that + spdef debuffs from penny and wally+rebuffs
That's dmg under 9 sync buffs! If Gladion want super high bmove dmg he needs to stack sybc buffs too.
Then again that was 9 sy- yes
Penny + SS Wally is just not gonna stack that much sync buffs.
That 9 sync buffs run was a total fluke btw. I could not even come close to replicating it
-5 countdown
Tomorrow. That's all
Just rechecked Diantha. Seems her setup will be long
yeah
Hmmm. Might have to switch SC Steven out in favor of Colress
6 B-Moves would be too much
Diantha set up is long but... what other options we have
I feel like UsUm Selene and NC Silver could get 1 million, but SS Diantha seems to be the only tech choice that can get higher than 1 million
Gordie. We have Gordie. He actually reached 1M against 3v3 but he had SC Steven/Redlax for that
Paulo would get decently high score bc sprint has innate too and he also has 2 other sync multipliers in grid.
Also Sing spam wasn't a discovered strat during Rock 3v3 and Gordie himself can burn the enemy if he gets hit so a Sing spammer is viable for him
The only sync multiplier that he really needs help with is Cakewalk
Yes I'm gonna pull a SS Silver + Elio and see how it works out lol.
I cleared 1M aoe with 2/5 silver and 1/5 ss diantha without a spammer, and diantha's def debuffs really helped
Not sure about ST tho
Finally got top 25
Gordie: 
2/5 Gordie 
Well Diantha is 1/5 but I am more willing to candy her
Not trying Galar tickets first?
it's not long
trip wire deals with kekwalk
scholar's sync just required moral support prov from redlax
field exr handles field
nah, just go diantha , redlax and sync spammer
K
Wondering if lodge Steven will perform good
Maybe if you fish for stealth rock MPR it gets guaranteed crits and seun
But probably Gordie will be better
However Steven can afford melony chase, while Gordie I think needs something like SC Steven or classic elesa
However I think Gordie probably needs something like nc Rosa or elio, because I don't think it can afford melony gauge requirements
However stealth rock I think eats too much time if you use lodge steven
🤝
Hate that diantha has soften up at 5/5
If she had it at 3/5 probably now I would have got her invested
You wouldn't even care about Soften Up at 5/5 anyways
Should I get mp refresh on her tm
If you want to do the LuSSa strat, go ahead
No lusa
You get the idea right?
Nope 
Why not? Doesn't she have enough energy to get it? Extension isn't needed with field ex I guess
I tried it, his sync is worse than spamming iron heads tbh
i think paulo/aaron is viable
got to 7 sync buffs with sand up
should be 8+ in single target
Because I rely on TM MPR
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
And I'm gonna rely on Trip Wire to fully set up Cakewalk as opposed to using something like Trip Twice
I mean just the fact of having soften up available, for me is a big deal
Also Rock Zone Extension so that I won't need to reapply Rock Wish on later syncs
I really really hate investing in 80% crit units unless the investment brings something else besides the nuke (assuming that anything past 3/5 is forbidden)
Doesn't field ex last the whole battle?
Meh
Of all the field ex units I used, unless you sync 1st field should last
If you sync after 2 support ex is guaranteed to last I think, maybe if you sync second with melony strats it may not last
If you do have her EXR, then I think this is the best one
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/15802/71902?s=3&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFDA0QERIUFRobHB40NQ&x=true
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
For 3/5 definitely
Is more that I don't want to invest in an unit that has soften up locked at 5/5, even if isn't optimal for DC, I want that available if I have to invest
you can definitely afford soften up
Meh
5/5
I'd rather take the 20% chance with max epeen
My point isn't that soften up is optimal, my point is that I hate spending 2 candies and having soften up still 2 candies away
My point was just that if diantha had soften up at 3/5 now I will have her 3/5 exr
She has it at 5/5 she can rot at 1/5 for me
Maybe if I had her 2/5 by chance I would have spent 1 candy
However I think Gordie should get 1m
Kukui isn't even a real tech
Yes but no innate is harsh, plus sand and cakewalk aren't the bestest multipliers ever
Non ex Gordie will probably nuke harder if 3/5
Colress is better than Melony for tomorrow right?
Depends on the team
At least for a SS Diantha team
Depends who is the 3rd
i can switch to non-ex gordie later if that turns out to be better but i'll still push kukui first
At the same time, Diantha needs to use 3 moves unless you're willing to use Max Knuckle from Redlax
With redlax isn't elio better?
Elio can give +4
Definitely can spam faster than corless
Extra support ex
But what about defense drops?
Are those that important? Screech is a bit slow
I mean, with some luck, I made far in today's steel-weak DC with Colress
Also, Diantha drops speed so you have some time too
Along with the minor but extra slow from para
Problem is that cordless will probably cost an extra sync
Elio spams faster
Not using screech saves time
If it's the case 2 extra sync buffs are probably better than -6 def
So next reset for ST Rock. Guess it's NC Silver time
Don't think is that great for st
Is a striker
I mean it will definitely be SS diantha gaming for who has her 3/5+ is more that Gordie will probably be the second best (and definitely best f2p)
Not sure if Paulo can perform better, by maybe landing an extra sync
I'm sticking to 3/5 Diantha for the meantime
Well, there's also sandstorm for the enemies to deal with
3/5+ diantha is definitely the best option
It has several sync countdowns and accelrock is fast (but his passive that gives pmun probably will waste time)
Wondering if some madman will try kukui accelrock dps by keep fishing for tm MPR
It should be faster
it gives up power tho
The flame animation should be shorter than the sandstorm one
I mean I want it available for other modes too if have to invest
How was LuSSa strat done again in psychic 3v3?
elio better than both ngl
Like I use ww3 NC silver for Rock AOE, but I'm not sure if I really wanted to invest in NC silver if it wasn't for the fact that has pseudo soften up as an option as custom lucky skill
I think it wasn't a great strat, is just that it was 1st dc
It did achieve nearly 4M+ no?
It did?
with rosa
I remember the high score was like in the 3M range
Defend order spam pog
7 syncs with 3 support exes but ideally you set up a bit more
What's tomorrow typing?
1v3 Rock
Can he even hit 100k+?
(maybe with a better team)
You don't have Colress? He can actually reach 1M.
yep there he is lol
good descriptor
idk if there's a single other lower output tech ex
The fact that Thorton's Tech condition is flinch is extremely hard to time 
His only Sync Multi in the Grid is... Relentless (his Sync Move is Special
)
I think Wikstrom might pump out higher numbers despite lacking an EX, he has Double Down and his Tech condition is atk down
idk how you're setting that efficiently but yeah much higher attack and cs2 on grid
maybe ghetsis with noble roar double drop which can cd spam after -6 but you need a strong gauge carry and support ex so prob nc blue needed
Funny I was testing out Wikstrom
(1st with the same team as Thornton, 2nd Standard DC Team)
@real wind second time I have seen you chat normally
Maybe I'll give Brock a try for DC Rock Single
Also what you mean by... Chat Normally 
Nvm... Goodluck on DC Rock
I've been thinking to use Allister for 3v1 Ghost, but I hadn't considered that Cynthia might make it
SS Diantha actually kinda wants/need Elio due to his 4 Atk buff. She is not that good at reaching 6 Atk herself
She needs to attack 3 times anyway to get +6 Def/+3 Crit
"might make it" ? she is going to be the best at Ghost 3v1, same as Ghost 3v3
Allister wants both Restrain and Poison for his sync. Restrain is fine but Poison isn't as ideal as Para due to the Poison tick. Plus you're forced to Gmax early for the Restrain
I want to be cautious lol but ye once we see it, I can give her candy
she doesnt need 6 def ? with elio you only use her Rock Tomb once and nothing else is required from her after that (using her TM after mega is optional)
Isn't one of her multiplier needing +6 SpDef? Which you get once she has +6 Def and you use her TM?
Elio even has SpDef for her too
its not 6 SpDef - its just any single SpDef buff
Oh it does not scale?
Scholar’s Sync (Sp. Def) 5
Powers up the user’s sync move when its Sp. Def is raised.
Okay that's better then
ohh
So Elio is her best Sing spam partner but Cakewalk is gonna be annoying to setup
Oh ye cakewalk too
I think that's the one that tipped me off
Having to do that one too
no, Diantha maxes out Cakewalk very easily. Its basically automatically
not an issue at all
Not a lot of f2p options so I was looking at Allister's way. But I admittedly forgot SSR Cynthia, and that her initial role is Tech lol
Elio + Diantha + maybe Redlax is going to be pretty good. Probably 2M+ achievable
Oh right, Tough Cookie wouldn't do much for her. If you grid Trip Wire, it's -3 speed on entry. -6 once she synced
so whatever score you got for 3v3 with ssr cynthia,
So guess this is all set then
I need to candy my SS Diantha
. She's still 1/5 since I got her
Cynthia is going to be better in 3v1 than in 3v3. In 3v3 we used Lenora/NC leaf for AoE debuffs.
in 3v1 this isnt necessary - NC Blue provides -2 def and -2 SpDef .. so with good rng you only need 2 shadowballs to reach -6 SpDef, which is very acceptable. And the Def drops are just a bonus for more damage
After that you sing spam and get 6-7 syncs, which is more than she had in 3v3.
am i still going lenora barry since im nc blue-less
or hmm
ss brendan, but no exr sucks
Anyways thank you @fluid anvil , would have gone differently with Diantha otherwise
Oh huh I can 3/5 SSR Cynthia tomorrow. Perfect
My first 1mil, 3/5 EX Role Rose was worth
3/5 Cynthia definitely is much better
1/5 I doubt is better than allister
Expecially since ghost wish is pretty slow
Allister + horse should be much better than 1/5 Cynthia
You can probably run a sing spammer instead of BP Barry since you WANT Gordie to tank for the Burn and Speed ups
So need to burn huh
Yeah, Scorching sync, Inertia, and Cakewalk are his multipliers
oh no rock 3v1 is tomorrow isn’t it (I’m screwed if Silver can’t 1m because 1/5 EXR SS Diantha sure isn’t)
I wasted super powered on steven 3/5 and elephant 1/5, when solgal easily gets 1.2 mil every run
this is minus 1 sync
such a weird balance I'll see if I can optimize it
usually you do what your name says
Gordie should
gordie is very solid, 1m with him shouldn't be a major issue
He already got 1m in 3v3
I think lodge Steven could get 1m but isn't really f2p
However as long as you have 1/5 regular Steven, you can easily get 5/5 lodge Steven
Feel like it can be pushed to 900k but will require a lot of flinch luck
I suggest changing Sonia into Colress for para spam
Unless Rose can't buff stats by himself?
1/5 Rose's sync is bad.
I can see keep DPSing give them more score than sync spam.
I loved how OP heracross felt during last DC. Reaching 1.1m relying on DPS more than sync felt good :V
good investment.
(giving him 2 candies and cake is what i mean by investment)
who is the better pair for the future steel 3vs1 challenge between Scizor, tinkaton, zacian and jirachi (or other f2p pairs)?
colress
bud has TM + Team Sentry Entry 2
Yes way

the best score I was able to get
not being able to raise colress attack to 6 kinda sucks but whatever lol
Will Diantha or Cynthia be good subs for non Tyranitar users tomorrow or no?
I think it's easier to make Alola Grimsley work than Colress.
He can also Metal Burst turn 1 to gain +6 eva and fish for dodging.
Uh, SS Diantha will be better than NC Silver for Rock 3v1, she will have the #1 score. He is better at 3v3 Rock (unless the new Selene alt is stronger now?)
Cynthia doenst have any Rock dps pair
Oh yeah oops I meant Olivia lol
i think Selene will do better than Silver for rock 3v3, her spatk is kinda really high (both maxed, Selene beats Silver's stat by about 60), she only has slightly less of a multiplier and has the tech EXR to compensate for that, and you also dont have to get chip damage from sand in the process
also she has soften up as a base passive, that's nice as well
main disadvantage i can think of for her is extension being more expensive for her,
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1unwNqwt18yroGqlEpdcnvYBhpn7KdX-ZCD53vqiufzg/edit?gid=78541076#gid=78541076
updated for steel
Silver blocks sand chip
not on the enemies ?
Oh yeah for them sure
for the few actions the enemies take not tacking on sand chip is nice
yeah that was what i meant
you do need an aoe statuser or a secondary spdef debuffer to fully set up Selene without causing Poison chip though, so i suppose that's the trade off, but you can just colress and be fine i imagine
lvl 150 ex sp3 gordie save me
very curious how paulo measures up to gordie now
can def reach 10 sync buffs on my team with significant setup though not seun on every sync
7 syncs with sand up
aaron finally optimal maybe
also all the other times i used aaron i neglected to use heal order first turn which skips animation but also procs the passive that gives +1 def/spdef
Aaron is pretty good with Rei + Lucario-Cynthia
Why'd you ex him now?
for me, he just doesnt do too well in other game modes.
He's my 166th ex. how about you?
Single rock
He’s my 172nd EX
And I got like 90 gold power ups so might as well lol
Keeping the rest until I see the Annie pairs (or if I get Nemona early)
I mean if you don't have other option he's literally your best.
He's quite good, dw
He's gonna be the second best option
whos the first
Ss diantha by far
gordie it is
Hmm, not sure if this is the best for DC
Not max Crit and attack seems counterintuitive lol
this is what i've been thinking but idk
Trip twice is more important
Yeah that looks better honestly
You can slow in 3 hits
Oh well I was planning on bringing SCteven who brings the def and speed debuffs
Btw not worth dumping max cap on it the difference is minimal
Oh then fine
Yeah, SC Steven will be kinda huge
Can even use him for inertia setup, even if gordie shouldn't struggle with that to start with
True, kinda broken with physical units
Rebuff, def drop, speed drop and that SE
I'm really getting him next seasonal select
Is it worth having the enemy hit Gordie to burn them?
Burn not sure, but if you can't raise speed then he need to tank
You do kinda want him to get hit for posthaste, yeah
Oh right he has that too
But para is way so good bcs it cut speed and they can fail
So I think para is still better
But burn can make up to it depending on team ofc
The extra 30% on his sync is nice, but it will eat up your timer faster
Nope
Elio gives just 1 speed
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I think I saw someone reach 1 mil with Alolan Grimsley?
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Overall yes, colress solgaleo melony works fine
And you can get 1M easily if you run SP3
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Then CS2 it is, is still almost 1m
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If it's not sync damage, always stats
And even if it's sync damage but you got low stats like +50 atk, drop it
Unless it's Bandana for a physical striker
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If you have ncBlue you can try him w melony
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Is 2/5 ex with role Rose > solgaleo?
If he doesn't have sync multipliers at 2/5, then no.
he gets double down 2 i think, probably not enough
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melony/lapras consumes a lot of gauge but colress/klinklang doesn't
so twaves are for when you're out of gauge but sings are faster when you have gauge
I got a 5% para s moves up and electric s moves 4% gear. The stats are 70 special attack. Boosts are mc and electric. Do I stop?
the third stat is interfere s moves up 3
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yes lol keep until you find something with a straight upgrade
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is gordie the most optimal here
i swear he nukes like a truck
for the next challenge anyways
buffing his speed isnt an issue but speed debuffs can be slow
unfortunately ;-;
But if you're running 3/5 SS Diantha with Gordie, you might as well drop Gordie and focus on SS Diantha instead
i unironically think gordie outnukes diantha lol
and diamond storm animation slow
actually gordie definitely outnukes diantha
diantha has the mega evo sync penalty and has less multipliers
he'll need her rock zone though
Hmm... Gordie, SS Diantha, Sing spammer would probably be the way to go
Then Sing spammer sync > SS Diantha (if you gridded her Trip Wire for -6 speed) > All Gordie
It's a massive bonus if SS Diantha also has Field just so you can save time popping Rock Zone
What are the teams exactly?
Dang, I'll probably hold off the candies on SS Diantha then, but I'll still run her with Gordie even 1/5 because Rock Zone.
Not to mention, you legit hold off Gordie's Gmax until the last second for that extra damage jump
Isn't Diantha's B Move stronger?
Likely Gordie + Sing Spammer. Gordie can burn someone if he gets hit and he has Burn sync multiplier so it's perfect
But it's also painfully slow
Because of the PMUN stacks and it's also split damage
At the same time Diantha has her TM
Which is like a sprint EXR
And also gives her PMUN per usage
You don't even use it until she megas anyways
Elio is SS Diantha's best friend if you run her as a main DPS because Scholar sync only needs at least +1 sp def up to trigger
By the time you've used it with her she's probably done attacking until the very end
i think elio gordie ss diantha
gordie should be the target so he can get his speed buffs
I'm still gonna try Redlax/SS Diantha/Colress
Funny enough, Elio, USUM Elio, and Gordie could work too.
oh what aan interesting setup
How much does burn slow you down?
haaaah.
Unless I'm missing a status unit
Perks of USUM Elio is that he's has Sprint EXR but his animations are a pain because B move + summon Rock Zone chunks a lot of time but at least he also drops Speed so it helps with Gordie's cakewalk
Pretty much the same as Poison would
So I have 4 teams ready for the next DC
- Main/My Best Team: EXR 3/5 Diantha team
- Experiment 1: Lounge Steven
- Experiment 2: The "other f2p option" (in a very f2p team)
- Bottom of the Barrel: Was debating between Brock vs Grant... Went with Grant

Who?
Nvm, can't read 
+reading
Reading is hard 
I would wanna try Gordie but I haven't EX him
Let's see who wins
Diantha's sync spam or Gordie's damage
I can see Diantha winning if you get the para lock of the century
Seems he's the most people best option for this DC 
As for who's the best option... USUM Selene?
He managed to get 1M with SC Steven + Redlax in 3v3 so people had their eyes on him for 1v3
brock only has one sync multiplier (haymaker) and grant has 3 (weather sync up, double down, cakewalk)
worse innate tho
grant
Wait, @fallen trail what's the team that you used with them?
i didnt calc teams
Tho unlock Brock, Grant can't self buff
so team building is more stricter
just first sync with +6 atk -6 def and speed
What's Gordie's innate again?
She's a striker base so you need Tech cake but she also needs sp def drop (at least -1??) and circle as her sync multipliers
Also Cakewalk
Also, isn't Gordie more slow to set up than Diantha?
Should have double-checked cuz I thought USUM Selene is primarily Tech w/ EX Strike
Yeah, you need 1 TM MPR and his Burn is 50% when he gets hit so you can reach max setup
His +2 speed is guaranteed tho, they just need to hit him three times
thinking og leaf would be able to compress all the buffs + flinch chance + fast spam with tackle and that it'd be best to skip an animation canceler for how much setup grant would need to max out everything
You probably kept zone on for gordie
still would need a weather user after that
I think Grant is just not worth trying for the atrocious requirement.
Flinch multiplier is one of the most disgusting things to setup, along with freeze.
Imagine having to flinch before sync
yeah we don't even know if he can reach 200k
they're still attempting it just to see
Alt elElio would be cool but bmove takes 15 sec, require max def but his TM also give teamwide regen so no sing spam 
Why do you want to click TM tho? He can use circle to unlock Bmove so that's the better option.
That's right 
Forgot it's his oassove giving stats and not his TM
Got him 1/5 maybe can make a good use 
Who sets up Kekwok?
Both Rock Zone setters (not Nemona) could drop speed so probably them. Since Gordie is gonna paired with a sing spammer, the other slot is gonna be a filler on who can amp Gordie's damage, even SC Steven can work just as well
imagine dc uses a speed tm
Ohhhh I just checked and Rock 3v1 uses speed TM
I think we had
Me only having Nemona: 
7 digits gaming
It's the first time I ever got top 20
Poppy is proven better to spam twave herself and bring 2 teammates that both boost her dmg like steel zone and SEUN
How did Skinny get their score again? Using what team?
ss diantha havers are we ready
hmm
a short moment of bliss
they are evil
heat wave can burn
burning your spammer 
Nah, Status Immunity 
Safeguard 
Too much time
Huh? Where did i go wrong?
i can definitely 1 mil my ss diantha just doesnt crit
Damn, is Rock ST this bad? 
rofl not only is it bad, you have to add heat wave rng
Silver does it, am I right?
5 diantha syncs gaming 🥵
DO NOT USE NC SILVER
Bruh whoever thinks that giving heat wave to a DC enemy is a good idea deserves to get fired 
Great not Gordie straight up refusing to refresh his TM
Wait
Who's the status spam?
On Gordie? Melony
Aint no way sing spam without para
I assume you need to burn
Gordie burn

He has 30% more Sync dmg on burn enemy anyway
and you got fried
That run i missed 1 Sync crit too
I got ptsd from Moltres’ heat wave
Why is the rank different lol. Buf I'll cherish this as this will not last
And my job on Rock stage is done
Glad that Gordie does this easy
Without Steven or Red-lax. I’m cooked. I can’t get past 100k
That heat wave is gross
If they were smart and wanted to make money. They need to make a unit that helps with DC as the next drop
Now I wished I EX’d him back during triple rock lol
Also yeah my first run NO SYNC CRITS
What the hell rng
how do you not run out of gauges on Melony
He probably lost some gauges?
But the atk animation and thr burn probably helped recover it
Diantha has a crazy nuke but it m takes too long to setup
i have 3/5 ss diantha, but i m not sure what team to use with her
my 1mil was redlax colress
She has scholar def which works even with 1 spe def
barry does x speed once though
still seems like a long setup tbh
imma try that team
Yeah that speed up item he used was a jerk move lol
With trip twice, he's at -3 Spd. Diantha inflicts -2 which Barry neutralizes
Upon her first sync, he will go to -6 Spd
my redlax colress team can 1 mil but she missed crit twice
yikes
Should I use diantha tm after mega evolve

And you do not need +6
yea thought it'd help
wait how did redlax help
SEUN .-.
I forgor to level Gordie up to 150
oh its gorrdie whose doing -2 SPD
only -2
gonna try this
aanything 2/5 or sc steven or just seun refresh?
I guess team debut speed +1 helps a bit maybe
Guh
If only steven had mpr, only 1/5
nicee
Haaah
Lol, Gordie's max move only dealt 55k.
Is 4/5 Gordie better to use over 1/5 Diantha?
I had to do that on 3v1 Bug, so I felt that
Yes
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Depends on Staraptor's paralysis fail, this team could go for one more Sync nuke before times up (might need at least 2-3 paralysis fails to pull one more). Also, watch out for Staraptor's Heat Wave burn, as it could be very annoyin...
I think Gordie can do higher than SS Diantha
have tried yet
yeah pykuo just posted a higher screenshot lol
The highest I can do 
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Did you setup with Diantha B-Move
So just -2 Def?
Yes
Yes 5 syncs
First attempt
No one use both yet?
Thanks. I may try to experiment later if I'm not lazy lol
Already did the clear but I want to try some comps
389
Imo it's a perfect run already. 
any NC Silver or alt Selene run?
At absolutely high investment NC Silver cooooooould probably bruteforce it
I see Gordie is the best f2p option, so I went to get him 3/5. But i dont have SCSteven 
Unfortunately I cannot personally test as mine is 1/5
I'm hoping someone is insane enough to try DPS run.
If I had TM MPR Red then it would've been higher
as always, single target DC sucks

I don't have him 
guess who have infinite SEUN after sync
OH YEAHHHH

ss lysandre 
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Wait
will aoe fairy go away before SS Nemona banner?
No
She will arrive in the middle of it
Nemona is released on sunday
Applies the Supereffective ↑ Next effect to the user after using its sync move.
Sygna Suit Hilda & Victini
Sygna Suit Lysandre & Volcanion
Eusine & Suicune
N (Summer 2022) & Zoroark
Lisia (New Year's 2023) & Rapidash
There we go
lol, Dena really knows how to time stuffs
OH YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
would gordie or NCsilver get a higher score yall think
Definitely Gordie
100% Gordie.

Did anyone use Max Knuckle for Redlax with Diantha?
thank you 
i have to max replenish cause my red hasnt mpr’d in 5 runs
I mainly save her TM after she syncs
That moment 5/5 gordie would make the difference
1m miss
Because it also give her PMUN for her B Move at the end
AAAAAAND i just used red’s tm on himself
no galar tickets?
I think it's Diantha. Gordie has passive that always trigger when being hit and even when the opponent is already burnt or he's already +6 spe it still eats time.
30 cookies just to get crit strike 2 on Gordie -u-;
Oh? How good is this run? Can you show me gordie grid?
Gladion doesn't have Devastation?
3v3 Fairy
time to prep
More 100k
yipee
BP Valerie is gonna carry
Brawn Sync (Attack up) + Double Down are her multipliers
Also she has SEUN if you click Swords Dance with her (so it's more or less a one time thing if you have supports that max out attack for her)
BS3 & DD5. It's pretty low not gonna lie.
So elio?
Doesn't seun applies even if sword dance fails?
I think it does
No it needs to be successful pretty sure I already tried
Oh, it just says use a Status Move. It doesn't have that "if successful" clause
Nope, it always works
So probably Elio + Filler + BP Valerie?
Who would win?
More dmg
Did anyone use them together?
Gladion
I have NC Silver but i font have the other two

I dont have NC Gladion
Sad
Double Down 5
But Valerie has 4 sync nodes
Which probably mean it is lower than Inertia
This, though
Yea ig both will be together
Lisia ofc
I'm gonna use Lisia because she has 387 speed while BP Valerie has 299
Next DC's won't be much of a problem ig?
I mean you can just check their sync dmg now bc it's pure math.
How?
I mean Lisa has more sync multipliers and higher Attack, but no Valerie has more sync BP due to free 5/5 and 2 extra sync nodes (if you get her +10) but I don't think is enough to patch the difference in sync multipliers
The thing will influence the real performance in dc is time loss due to setup or other factors.
Especially with the DC enemies?
Plus I guess super syncer 9 is much faster than failed sword dance
I think Lisia is gonna be better because i dont think you'll use 10k Sync Orb just for her unless you're a Valerie fan
100k* lol

Lisia also has super syncer 9
100k but if is your only option probably you would
If you have 3/5 Lisa ofc you won't
Everything adds up in dc
I think she gets 1M without it
Yes, I mean in theory you could, in practice I don't think is a great investment, but if you are short of 1m it may be an option
Personally I will use gladion
So what's the best team for NY Lisia?
- Colress / NY Lisia / Melony
Or - SC Steven / NY Lisia / BP Barry
Double spam VS re🅱️uffs
Rebuff*
Re🅱️uff it is
Have to see in practice
Maybe the good ol, melony NC blue
NC Blue passively boosts sync damage
Is really popular in dc
Where defense drop?
No burn build is better.
-6 is 22.5% right?
-2 on sync but is good enough
Rebuff is more, but SC Steven is single target rebuff
The problem with SC Steven is that forces you to run the slower paralysis spam
1.3x at -1 rebuff, 1.5x at -2 rebuff, and 1.7x at -3 rebuff if I remember it correctly
Oh, got it. got it. Thanks
Wonder if SS Wally will be used in 3v3 for optimal teams or not
Considering that Nc blue doesn't have to use a b move to debuff def
In theory he has team rebuff and zone
Probably, it's also worth syncing with him for that AoE Fairy rebuff
1.3x for SC Steven
1.2x + 0.75 for NC Blue

Ok yeah NC Blue it is
Wait
Uhhhhhh
You can't directly compare like that
It has zone and AOE rebuff, but you have to sync with him once since no spammer can mega
It's against 3 targets
However no paralysis means that you need to rely on slower paralysis spam
Triple fairy… hmm.
Why not Impatient 1 on Primarina ? Is it too slow when proc-ed ?
yes
Is that how it works?
Like SS Gladion looks great on paper, but to activate his B move you must do a Fleur cannon
This?
So will the optimal strat be to miss Fleur Cannon lol
You want to do it anyway for -SpA
"Where gauge?"
what's your diantha grid?
That is a lot of animation for Gladion teams
And also a miss on fleur cannon would conserve the SMUNs
I think it will be better to miss
At least for the 2nd B move
aight 1m time to dip
So I tried the Bottom of the Barrel Units... Well
You'd have to lead with Fleur Cannon
This is Kukui w/ Rock Zone team
It's not like it will add much damage it's ST
Lead with Fleur cannon
Then stack smun
For the first B move
and Lastly... Probably the first Lounge Steven Run
For the 2nd B move you conserve the 3 smun you get from the first B move by missing a normal Fleur
SS Gladion doesn't have many multipliers, the smun will add a LOT
Oh I was confused about consuming SMUN. I assumed it was about the regular Fleur Cannon
That said it also remains to be seen if using 2 B Move is better than sync rush and B Move at the end
We'll just have to see
I always found it awkward how you "waste" his innate SMUN to activate a 2nd B move
Good enough
You are doing god's work with all these runs
2 b moves requires an extra node, and you have to use an extra fleur cannon, plus the 1st one should be used before gladion 1st sycn
I don't think 2 b moves is worth it
I was going to do NC Silver, BP Barry, SS Diantha.
But do you guys have different recommendations?
I also have 3/5 Red/Snorlax + NC Rosa
Yes it's why I mentioned it. Might be better to do sync rush, although iirc NC Marnie strat changed from sync rush to spamming B Move. Altho she is not restricted to two B Move, same principle may apply here, just have to discover the strat
How can I get better than 300k using Gordie with Melony and Sonia?
Redlax + Elio for Diantha
As he should
That said I will experiment with both myself
Sync Rush/Double B Move
why Elio?
Imagine how hard strike EXR SS Wally would have been
I know he has confusion
But still
Slightly slower than Melony, but you won't run out of gauge
And still faster than Para Spam
alright
Flinch locking with Sonia?
He at least would go hard on ST, confusion aside
I haven't used Elio yet, what's their grid?
Nah 
I did not use his grid at all lol
- Grid and LS: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=025900083500&s0=5&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=17010201&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFBggaGxwd&v1=025500013100&s1=3&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=18090102&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFGhsdICElJyot&v2=025400083900&s2=5&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=13010602&t2=4444&g2=AAECAwQFCw4VGCMlKSwu
- Gears: https://imgur.com/a/9XHPbRG
Reset for 2 land...
Really need landing 2 sleep to prevent Heat Wave on last second
How do I best get Diantha's stats up?
What I did was use Rock Tomb twice and her TM afterwards
k, tm after sync right?
you can get 1.1m with the SS Diantha/Melony/Blue team without having to squeeze in the final sync if you use Diantha’s B Move right after her first sync
Elio and Redlax takes care of that
after gives u a ton of sync cooldown
It also applies before
is there a video of this yet?
I wish the person who have heat wave to Barry
A non pleasant day
I doubt because I just did it after seeing the 1.3m clear not have -6 def lol lol
5 tries 2 got the mprs on gordie
same 2 got the burn on Melony 
I'm really lucky with bad rngs
They could have given him Hostile Environment

Currently only SS Dian and Gordie reach 1M.
Why Sonia when Hilbert
I got 200,000 but that's probably because I had -0 def.
Bc she debuff Def

~~And i want to use her ~~
Ok but you have to attack 6 times for that 

Posthaste will trigger at least once because of aoe moves
Hilbert can actually pick spe MPR + eva + crit + aqua tail dc with +3e.
Just saying.
is ss diantha not optimal here?
Let's hope Hilbert get - def on entry (maybe -2?) after expansion.
But Marnie doesn't needs to grid extra stuffs to use more b moves, and she doesn't to use extra regular moves to enable b move, plus Marnie isn't forced to b move before her 1st sync
@warped gulch does sc Steven need more than 1/5 for your clear
what's the highest ss diantha rn
guh
Can I use something like redlax instead
for 1 mil
or can I go redlax gordie rosa
Red + Elio + CS2 Gordie is 900k for me. SP3 would most certainly make it 1M.
In your video +1 entry speed is literally useless
It just wastes time
I guess I'm going for another Diantha Run for Next DC (Fairy Multi)
+1 speed for Steven and Melony just makes it very comfy, i used 2 Steven’s Tm just bc i didn’t get 2 SEUN mpr

ah yeah nvm i was just thinking about gordie

but then you can tackle a few time early on to fix that
Yeah, that work, but you need to tackle early for speed buffs, bc he doesn’t have mgr at 1/5
B Move is too slow
Also: needed 5/5 Ultra Eluo for that rock zone to work properly
pykuo please make your melony 5/5 in the grid since it's 5/5 in the video
even if it doesn't really matter
oh you run PPE2 on melony 

yeah that's probably the best for most people
Me with 5/5 SSDiantha using gordie bc I’m short of cakes 
kek
Wow it's doable? Which grid did you use for Gordie?
Missed two crits, rock gear, cs2, no seun next mpr and still 1m
Wanted to test lodge Steven, with level 150 an a bit of energy expansion to get +25 sync BP it could score better
Didn’t want to EX but I thought I would have at least gotten 500k (because 600k is 2/3rds of 900k)
what lucky skill should Gordie have?
CS2 if you're poor and SP3 if you don't want to suffer, as always.
Yup but I should use rock zone ext and it takes too much time 
Another Lodge Steven Runner (mine only got 500k+ with Elio & Redlax)
Sp3
If you don’t have it
go grind lg now
There we go
I didn't have to candy rose or ss diantha to get 1m, so I have 1 strike and 1 tech candy
First try. Didn't sync with Barry.
Minor improvement with Redlax having his TM MPR
should i reset for all sync crits?
Besides TM MPR from Red, I also need to TM MPR from Diantha
There, uploaded
This run is simple and does NOT require para at all
Just follow these steps
Gordie's "burn" passive must trigger at the 2nd or 3rd Heat Wave
Reset it if the the enemy get burned with the first Heat Wave
- max debuff the enemy speed
- use Red's Rock Smash 3 times to debuff def
- use Gordie TM once
- spam sing and then use Elio TM when gauge is ...
1M with burn lmaoo








