Damage Challenge

[unique abyss]

colress is better nuker?

With my current gears 1M points is possible (low damage rolls), but that 80% sync crit is horrible

[sullen zephyr]

Did you forfeit aoe entirely with alolan grimsley?

[unique abyss]

yes, solgaleo is garbage

[royal jolt]

It's very hard for Grimsley to make it to 1M

[unique abyss]

3x screech 2xPMUN and the rest is sing spam

2 last syncs with SEUN and last hits with iron head

metal burst is garbage imo

too slow

[pallid girder]

What I mean is that role compression is important.
I tried Hilbert + P Marnie and the score is not even close to 1M.

[royal jolt]

It's garbage, but it's incredibly useful because of what else it does

+6 Evasion means you can use him as the first target

It's how I got 1M with him

[unique abyss]

so you use it in his first turn and tank with him?

i thought he was too fragile

[royal jolt]

No, I use Screech three times then Metal Burst

[royal jolt]

He's fragile, but the opponents don't even hit hard, so HP is never a problem

[loud cedar]

how are the rose clears so far

[royal jolt]

Also Full First Aid

[crude sandal]

I find it finny that Rose is the first strike/tech steel unit and yet Gloria outshines him

[prisma quail]

1.6-1.7 million seems pretty accessible with caked Copperajah

[loud cedar]

fuck i dont wanna cake my copperajah…

[prisma quail]

Gloria needs like 5/5 to do that though, and Copperajah is 3/5

[royal jolt]

You don't need to

[loud cedar]

yeah i tried this team, 1 mil definitely doable i just had shit rng

[eternal pecan]

Is this the best team for me?

[loud cedar]

what grid were u using?

[crude sandal]

Solgaleo instead of Raihan

[eternal pecan]

Damn

[loud cedar]

pb solgaleo kinda nuts

[eternal pecan]

Raihan that mid

And solgaleo that nuts

[loud cedar]

isnt solgaleo outdoing steven LOL

[loud cedar]

this with extra energy right

[prisma quail]

Steven and Metagross is not good.

He was good in year 1, but even then his damage wasn't top tier. He was good because of flinching.

[loud cedar]

i ran out of orbs already MANN

[eternal pecan]

What solgaleo grid are yall using?

[royal jolt]

Nope

[loud cedar]

oh what

[sullen zephyr]

Mega sync

[loud cedar]

im tripping

ohh i see whats different

[royal jolt]

Steven slander 🥹

[loud cedar]

thanks for grid

[prisma quail]

Only a few units with the mega tax still have high syncs.

Like Blaziken

[loud cedar]

he’s my first 3/5 i wish he was better

[pallid girder]

I mean striker + ex tech and tech + ex striker are totally different concept.
In general the former is just not as busted as the later tbh, and Gloria is secretly tech + ex striker in disguise bc she has sync innate multiplier like the techs.

[prisma quail]

No slander, only truth.

Metagross/Blastoise/Starmie was my go-to immortal team for like 2 years. He was amazing for a while. He hasn't aged well

[loud cedar]

whats gloria’s innate? sync buff on enrmy?

[royal jolt]

Yes, I know, lol

It pains me he didn't get a good 4- and 5/5 expansion

As a Steven simp, I am very well aware he's not what he used to be

[prisma quail]

Agreed.
He needed another multiplier on sync, and maybe Ramming Speed

[royal jolt]

Yes! That's probably why she's on top

[fluid anvil]

5/5 Steven did get ~1.05M, slightly higher than Solgaleo

[loud cedar]

sheesh

[prisma quail]

Metagross could still get a good free grid upgrade for those 6 side tiles

[royal jolt]

I hope

[eternal pecan]

Not grabbing super duper effective 2 or does that not count for sync?

[loud cedar]

did the extra damage on sync from copies carry that or he has extra multipliers from 4-5/5

[royal jolt]

Because the PokéFair tiles were usually supposed to be the good tiles

[sullen zephyr]

Why not furious brawn

[thin wren]

has metagross hit 1 mil yet?

[eternal pecan]

Yes

[loud cedar]

yep

[loud cedar]

, apparently

[royal jolt]

Superduper Effective 2 doesn't count for sync

[normal parcel]

Then who buffs corless stats?

[sullen zephyr]

Solgaleo can reach 1M?

[eternal pecan]

That’s what I thought, did you use colress for paralyze?

[loud cedar]

would it be too gamebreaking if they made move multipliers affect sync too?! dont look at masked royale grid

[royal jolt]

I forgot to mention SC Selene buffs Colress. My apologies

[sullen zephyr]

Please don't tell me it needs SP3

[normal parcel]

Yes it can

[thin wren]

solgaleo is better assuming it's pb

[loud cedar]

solgaleo needs powerboost

[thin wren]

colress redlax solgal iirc

[normal parcel]

That was the point I guess

[pallid girder]

My best Colress score is using Red + Hilbert and around 700k.

[normal parcel]

Another steel zone user can't buff corless

[royal jolt]

How do you mean?

[sullen zephyr]

Although solgaleo does have attacks in 2 types

Sp3 might not be wasted

[normal parcel]

SP3 is never wasted

[loud cedar]

wasted my deluxe cookies on hs1

[royal jolt]

Yes. It's best to have some form of disabling enemy attacks. Also the classic colress spam strategy

[loud cedar]

😩

[normal parcel]

I feel I wasted some cookies to get SP3 while my selene had already supreme entry, and it performs basically the same

[sullen zephyr]

Ok but there are more optimal use cases

[normal parcel]

Yes I mean if you get it is good

Ofc there are better candidates

But with 80% crit you really want sp3

[sullen zephyr]

I'm a bit of a hoarder and minmaxer

[pallid girder]

For DC I'll only role SP3 on unit I'm not getting 1M any close.

[wooden tree]

What’s the best team ATM?

[normal parcel]

I think rose poppy and 5/5 Gloria performed quite similar

[wooden tree]

What should be my DPS?

[tired narwhal]

Who would be my best pair for this, I have 2/5 Gio too

[pallid girder]

Gloria needs 5/5, Rose and Poppy need 3/5. If you don't have the required move level prob just use EX + PB Solgaleo.

[sullen zephyr]

Ss gio?

[tired narwhal]

Yeah I got SS gio too

[normal parcel]

Gloria can still get over 1m at 4/5 but that's the bare minimum to score good with Gloria

[sullen zephyr]

Ss gio doesn't have steel sync

[tired narwhal]

Oh yeah

[normal parcel]

SS Gio Is only useful for ground 3v3

[tired narwhal]

So tinkaton isn’t great?

[normal parcel]

Is one of the top 3

[tired narwhal]

Poppy* my b

Oh!

[sullen zephyr]

I assume poppy is great

[tired narwhal]

But needs to be 3/5?

[normal parcel]

Like most units in DC, yes

[sullen zephyr]

Aw crud her haymaker is 3/5

[tired narwhal]

I wonder how much I can do with 1/5, just because I’m saving my strike candies for anni

[normal parcel]

There are very few damage dealer that perform decently if less than 3/5 in dc

[sullen zephyr]

I remember people saying poppy was sufficient at 1/5

Guess not for dc

Og Steven is a rare case with 1/5 haymaker

[normal parcel]

Like 99% of the units have their nukes locked at 3/5+ so for DC is basically the baseline

[pallid girder]

Seriously what dmg dealer is sufficient at 1/5 in DC? The only case i can think of is NC Marnie.

[normal parcel]

I may think about Bede, but confusion based sync is terrible in dc

[sullen zephyr]

Nc silver got me 1M at 2/5

Btw august has no ranked dc? I thought it would be monthly

[normal parcel]

Wondering who will be the optimal team for electric AOE

[eternal pecan]

Let’s go

[sullen zephyr]

Ash's b move will deal 1M on its own

[eternal pecan]

Probably ash

With NC Blue support

[sullen zephyr]

Might as well throw in sstr

[normal parcel]

SS hau should sync harder, but setup is slow

[eternal pecan]

Nah you need 3rd slot for a sleeper

[normal parcel]

Then who spams?

[sullen zephyr]

Oops forgot about status spammer

[acoustic chasm]

Any pal marnie 1M yet?

[normal parcel]

I guess melony NC blue ash may be the comp

However NC blue discharge has low chance to AOE para

[eternal pecan]

Hostile environment 2 on grid though

I bet ash will tank too, similar to NC Marnie

[normal parcel]

Yes but is just three 45% individual rolls

[eternal pecan]

Yeah someone said before it was like a 6% chance for them all to paralyze

[normal parcel]

Like 9%

[sullen zephyr]

-2 rebuff from blue is the same as elec terrain

But then no support ex

[tired narwhal]

Nice shit. What did u do for moves?

[pallid girder]

If it's pre sing spam era I'd say SS Hau > Ash bc everyone is using SC Steven.
But now I'm actually not sure.

[sullen zephyr]

And nc blue maxes speed too, so melony can spam sing more easily

[eternal pecan]

I used screech on colress

Other than that it was a normal clear

[normal parcel]

However besides that initial 9% paralysis chance I think the run may not need much else RNG, ash has guaranteed crit

[tired narwhal]

Alright cool. U only synced right

[eternal pecan]

Yeah

[sullen zephyr]

Can solgaleo reach 1M without colress

My colress is 2/5

[eternal pecan]

I used sunsteel strike at the end when time was low

[tired narwhal]

Dope. Could I see ur sync grid for solgaleo

Idk if I spelt name right

[pallid girder]

Red + Elio.

[thin wren]

ss hau wins in numbers even with ash b move. The issue is clicking web 4 times

[dry whale]

Good morning people.

Steel is not my best type so 3rd attempt 2.4 I'm happy with. Maybe I'll try to push it to 2.5 get the missed crits but I won't be going too hard in this challenge.

[normal parcel]

Yes but the debuffs are really slow

[sullen zephyr]

I tried redlax + melony and melony ran out of steam near the end

[normal parcel]

However I think 3 webs are enough

-2 speed per web

[sullen zephyr]

not my best type
2M+

[thin wren]

begins the message with a line implying his steel ain't good
gets one of the highest scores batman moment

[pallid girder]

Elio is hard to run out gauge. It's one of his strength over Melony.

[thin wren]

enemy in aoe elec has x speed all

so it's 4 webs

[normal parcel]

Oof for hau I guess

[thin wren]

Hau got in 6 syncs and a web at the end

[sullen zephyr]

What is your best type?

[thin wren]

Last time we tested his speed

[tired narwhal]

Damn 5/5 Gloria hits hard

[normal parcel]

Ash can get 7?

[thin wren]

Ash got 7 syncs in with Chase comp tho so he has a lower enabler

[thin wren]

pretty consistently

[dry whale]

Ive not looked at the ranking , surely Gloria falls way behind the better units.

[normal parcel]

Can ash get 7 with NC blue?

[thin wren]

She's currently tied for best steel unit in dc

[thin wren]

jerjok didn't test that so someone else needs to

[normal parcel]

However 80% crit is still 80% crit

[thin wren]

her poppy and rose all got 2.5 mil

[thin wren]

smth, simply crit every attack

if it's not a 0% chance it could happen a 100% of the time

[normal parcel]

7% chance with 12 hits

[sullen zephyr]

Just tap the sync button harder

[thin wren]

so higher than 0%

[normal parcel]

I guess ash needs like 9% from discharge, but 9% at the 1st move, is much better than 7% at the end of the run

[sullen zephyr]

batmanbnb are you renting out bat-properties for short bat-stays

[thin wren]

hau main issue isn't even him requiring 4 webs for setup tbh. It's that he has extra animation after every sync for his terrain smun passive and terrain

[normal parcel]

Yes that's also a problem

[sullen zephyr]

I'm glad i don't have ss hau then

[thin wren]

wouldn't hau also require the 9% if you want enemies to be at min gauge

[normal parcel]

Don't know if is mandatory, but ash definitely wants all of them paralyzed

[thin wren]

main thing that was stopping me from 7 syncs in my testing. Sing melony under e terrain should be the fastest sync spam by far since it's a little bit faster than the occasional miss fail melony gets

[sullen zephyr]

Sstr

[thin wren]

I was about 5 countdown away from sync 7 if I don't click b move so maybe with better rng you could get 7?

[thin wren]

nc blue provides 70% and support sync

sstr only provides 50%

[normal parcel]

Yes but double rebuff + extra support ex + -2 def is better

[sullen zephyr]

Ooooh they can't sleep under ET

[normal parcel]

And also +20% sync passive

[thin wren]

nc blue also has his+20% sync passive

[thin wren]

yeh, it's always a max speed fail

[normal parcel]

Yes, but if you run blue you can't run red

[sullen zephyr]

Wait what is that 20%

[thin wren]

That's what I said

[sullen zephyr]

Not mf passive? Mf passive doesn't afect sync

[pallid girder]

Did you test it in a 3v3 stage with also x speed all buff? I think x speed all might make you sync less bc the opponentes move more so more animation for them.

[thin wren]

he has a base passive that buffs syncs

[thin wren]

I clicked web 4 times

to simulate x speed all

[normal parcel]

NC blue has a team sync passive, basically an extra cs2 (but you don't have to crit)

[pallid girder]

I mean Ash sync 7 times.

[thin wren]

oh ask jerjok that

he's the one who tested Ash

[sullen zephyr]

Oh i never noticed his sync passive

[normal parcel]

NC blue adds more to the table than sstred, the problem is that discharge has a bad aoe paralysis chance

[thin wren]

does anyone here have invested ash and nc blue?

[chilly sierra]

SSH?

[sullen zephyr]

Secure shell

[thin wren]

Ash

[chilly sierra]

Oh

Yea I got both

[sullen zephyr]

Ss hau

[pallid girder]

The speed buff/debuff on opponents is sometimes actually a factor for 1 more sync or not.

[normal parcel]

I guess -6 speed helps mitigating the time wasted to web

[fluid anvil]

with nc blue-Melony - sure, I dont see why he wouldnt. No reason not to hit 7

[thin wren]

Heads up my ss hau run had some luck

I got 1 para

[normal parcel]

Maybe SS hau can get more if all the stars allign

[thin wren]

Ash probably gets 8 with good rng tbh

[left vine]

ssh [email protected]

[pallid girder]

He can also tech in Chase so dodge more is an option.

[thin wren]

*incredible

[normal parcel]

I guess ash just needs to hit that 9% discharge at the start and o think it will be good

[pallid girder]

Just dodge EVERY moves. Not really that hard, right?

[thin wren]

pretty sure aoe elec opp spams aoe and chase only gives 30%

[royal jolt]

Finally managed to hit 1M with "3/5" Steven's grid

[thin wren]

you can gamble for syncs but you can't gamble for multipliers

[fluid anvil]

if you make Ash the tank - you could maybe proc his in a pinch and get -3 sync, and hit 8 syncs .. maybe

[normal parcel]

Chase not optimal for electric, because NC blue rebuffs are actually meaningful there

[pallid girder]

Oh right I forget NC Blue's rebuff is important in electric dc.

[fluid anvil]

yes if it wasnt electric - Chase would be better than blue with Ash
But for Electric blue is better with double rebuff

[thin wren]

Ash has 180% sync vs ss hau 250% plus et. Ss hau web at the end should also hit for 300k ish so the ash b move advantage is only 700k

[normal parcel]

However ash needs the trainer sync redemption or to use a thunder to unlock his b move

[fluid anvil]

using a thunder or two is fine, you will still hit 7 syncs .. probably not 8 though

[thin wren]

I haven't looked at ash kit in a while. Lemme look at it again

[normal parcel]

I guess a thunder can help mitigating the 9% from discharge

[thin wren]

so question will be can Ash make up for the big sync diffrence with b move plus extra sync

[normal parcel]

If you don't want to reset till hau gets all the crits probably yes

[thin wren]

if it's not a 0% chance it could happen 100% of the time

simply crit every attack

[fluid anvil]

Ash should get close to 3M with just syncs alone .. so if the B-move adds 999,999 - he could look to break 4M
My bet is that he will outdamage SS Hau

[thin wren]

I do find it funny tho that elec dc of all dcs is not very clear cut(well aoe. St it's sstr lol)

[normal parcel]

I mean if you don't mind getting your life miserable while trying to land 12 crits in a row I guess hau is the choice

[fluid anvil]

the worst part is the 9% blue discharge lol

[thin wren]

thing is hau setup isn't that much slower than gilbert and gilbert also got above 4 mil and hau has better enablers so it's gonna be close.

[normal parcel]

But at least is turn 1

And I guess is the only RNG needed

[thin wren]

We are gacha players, gambling is our blood, gacha is our soul

[normal parcel]

Unless you want to get crazy paralysis luck and land an extra sync

[fluid anvil]

using b-move 4 times is definitely slower than SS Hilbert setup.
although, I forgot that SS Hau also has his own E.Terrain .. hmm, maybe he will win

[thin wren]

actual, lemme check if hau could afford mind games 9 and important tiles

[normal parcel]

However hau terrain is super slow

You get it every sync

[thin wren]

His e terrain is the part that makes the sync gap quite large

[thin wren]

I wouldn't call it super slow but it definitely makes 7 syncs almost impossible

because he triggers his smun every wtz oroc

*proc

[normal parcel]

And you have to apply it like 4 times

[thin wren]

builds up mun but he would probably be able to sync 7 times with great rng if he didn't have that

[normal parcel]

5 considering the entry one

[fluid anvil]

What I wonder is if there is any practical way to make Cakewalk work for SST red on 3v1 Electric. Dont really see it

[pallid girder]

At least the final blow would be worth it... right?

[thin wren]

sc Steven probs?

[normal parcel]

Classic elesa?

[thin wren]

ss hau?

[pallid girder]

Yap.

[fluid anvil]

SS hau will never get 7 syncs with full setup. maybe not even 6

[thin wren]

no fairy zone so web should only hit for 300k

[normal parcel]

Maybe dojo Gloria

[thin wren]

he gets six total in with good rng

[fluid anvil]

Bad. its slow + you lose sing spammer

[normal parcel]

Or just the classic SC steven

[pallid girder]

SS Silver is also a good idea.

[hollow whale]

There we go, could have pushed further rid I didn’t use SCteven’s SE up on the very first sync lol

[normal parcel]

You don't lose the sing spammer

[hollow whale]

But I’m out

[pallid girder]

-6 spe in 2 turns, -6 cd, support ex

[fluid anvil]

how so? SST red + NC Blue + Sc steven - where is sing?

[hollow whale]

Next is…

Single Roxk

LMAO

I’m screwed

[thin wren]

maybe there could be a way to get in a fairy wish plus b move if not a 7th sync

[normal parcel]

I guess you lose NC blue

[thin wren]

that would make his b move hit for 500k+ minimum which would close out the b move gap

[fluid anvil]

then you just lose more damage

[thin wren]

no sing spammer debuffs speed?

[fluid anvil]

No

[pallid girder]

Gordie reach 1M in 3v3. In 3v1 he can do it easier ig.

[thin wren]

sstr being only -1 per turn is kinda cringe

[normal parcel]

I guess you may still want to run elio

[fluid anvil]

I think you just lose Cakewalk for SST Red

[thin wren]

Do you just take the sing loss and use a para spammer with shocking slowdown?

[normal parcel]

Is melony faster than elio under Regen?

[hollow whale]

Not on my phone he won’t LMAO

[thin wren]

Oh right sstr has forced regen...

[normal parcel]

Elio can patch it

With mpr

[thin wren]

Seems like Elio will be the optimal singer

[slate magnet]

What are the rankings for this challenge?

[thin wren]

unit wise?

[slate magnet]

Yeah for the main damage lol

[thin wren]

3 way tie rn

[slate magnet]

I only have 1/5 steel except freebies

[normal parcel]

I guess red can setup cakewalk with thundershock

[thin wren]

poppy , Rose and 5/5 gloria(required 5/5) at 2.5 mil

[thin wren]

he can?

[slate magnet]

Gloria, Rose, and Steven is all I have that targets everyone

[normal parcel]

Just grid shocking slowdown

[slate magnet]

Yeah

I tried that once with something, and it was underwhelming lol

[normal parcel]

And spam tshock, without e terrain should be fast enough

[fluid anvil]

Oh yeah kinda. That might be the "best" option then

[slate magnet]

Might be better for this though

[pallid girder]

He can always lower spe himself. It's just slow.

[thin wren]

what move level is gloria

[slate magnet]

1/5

[thin wren]

bad

[slate magnet]

Lol

So player and Solgaleo is best at 5/5?

[thin wren]

@slate magnet do you have solgaleo power boosted

he can hit 1 mil

[slate magnet]

I think so

Nice

[craggy pond]

melony run didn't proc red MPR

[thin wren]

redlax, melony and solgal with good gears

[slate magnet]

What does Melony do besides sleep for sync nuke down?

Sleep faster than Paralysis with Barry?

[craggy pond]

can use elio if melony is being a bit gauge heavy, i had speedy entry 2 on her and redlax and it's kinda doable if you time correctly your TMs to regain gauge

[thin wren]

Support ex and fastest sync spam

[thin wren]

good bit faster.Just don't get trouble maker or healthy healing and paralyse the opponent with body slam first

[slate magnet]

Barry is self sufficient in gauge, regains two after using 2

[thin wren]

That's why he's slower

[slate magnet]

I see lol

Makes sense

[thin wren]

charging infliction passive pop up takes time

[normal parcel]

Sing can be used without charging passives if you have enough speed

[slate magnet]

Oof, it was noticeably better than Colress so I didn’t realize

[thin wren]

if only rosa didn't change form on sync....

[slate magnet]

Lol yeah

[thin wren]

She would have been perfect

[normal parcel]

Yes that's the annoying part

I mean if she kept sing in pirouette form she would have been fine too

[thin wren]

speed buffs, smun and fast base speed

[thin wren]

nah, no confusion would have harmed her non dc performance

Not changing forms on sync wouldn't hurt her anywhere

probably

[normal parcel]

I guess hurts her in fighting dc

You will need to relic twice to get the fighting rebuff

[pallid girder]

I don't know if its a coincidence or they actually had the idea of DC when making NC Rosa and they don't want her be too dominant in this mode so they made her kit like that.

[thin wren]

still

being the best in every dc in exchange of being slightly worse in 1 wouldn't be bad

[normal parcel]

Yes definitely

[thin wren]

nah, this is definitely a coincidence

[normal parcel]

Maybe if relic song was faster

[thin wren]

They wanted her to change form with b relic so they made it name based instead of specific move based

[pallid girder]

But I feel like NC Nate and Poppy are really made for DC.

[thin wren]

It's accurate that it's slow ngl

[thin wren]

poppy maybe. Nate was just meant to fit in most stuff and be a great burster

[thin wren]

so the passive also ends up affecting sync

[pallid girder]

Btw the top is 3M now.

[craggy pond]

hmm close

[unborn otter]

Steel gear and sp3

[craggy pond]

is it just running it a bunch of times if i want to get 1mil until the crits/damage rolls are favourable

ah no sp3 on mine only cs2

and i don't have colress 3/5 so melony gaming

[craggy pond]

uses speedy entry 2 on the two supports

[unborn otter]

Cs2

[craggy pond]

pretty comparable then

melony vs colress

[unborn otter]

So i missed crits with sp3

[craggy pond]

ah makes sense

[pallid girder]

CS2 Sol 1M w Red + Elio.
In the end of the day it's just get luckier and be patient.

[jolly violet]

Finally 2M

[thin wren]

do we know what comp?

[sacred badger]

i ffeel like it'll be Gloria 4/5 .-.

btw

who cleared with 1m with Colress?

[jolly violet]

I barely made it to 2M with good RNG, SP3 on Poppy, and Basic gears

[thin wren]

*5/5

no way it's only 4/5 if it's gloria

[jolly violet]

So that 2M5 clear with 5/5 Poppy seem possible

[pallid girder]

I think it's Poppy.
The 2.5M of Gloria seems to be her best team, but 2.5M of Poppy I posted is definately not her best team.

[long silo]

I am curious to see that 2.5m Rose

But it seems it's not on doc

[fluid anvil]

there was already 2.8M+ with Gloria

the 3M is Gloria with perfect rng

[thin wren]

do we know if 2.5 mil Gloria critted evrything?

[safe prawn]

OFC it has to be 2024 pf vs 2020 pf

They need to sell new stuff

[fluid anvil]

Gloria is essentially a Tech+Strike pair (without the x1.5 tech buff) with her own SEUNs

[pallid girder]

The perfect run of Gloria needs to refresh her TM for SEUN every sync, and her TM has guaranteed crit.

[thin wren]

as long as it's not 0%

[jolly violet]

Any idea for a better Poppy team?

[woven fjord]

For the Solgaleo clears, does Colress use Screech at all, or does he only spam Twave?

[pallid girder]

The team I posted use PMarnie as the zone setter, and I don't think she's the best as the supporting role.
VThorton would be better.

[woven fjord]

Hit 974K with Solgaleo, BP Barry and Pal. Marnie. Think Solgaleo might have missed a crit or something, not sure.

[jolly violet]

Isn't VThorton only set Steel Zone once with his sync move?

[pallid girder]

But with another support ex.

[royal jolt]

You use Screech since Solgaleo's sync is physical

[woven fjord]

Yeah, just wondering since Screech does have an animation and I'd have to go through 3 of those.

[royal jolt]

It does have an animation time, but Solgaleo clears are pretty much very close. I exceeded 1M by only 25k, and that's with Screech

[tiny mist]

is it better to use Alolan Grimsley or MC solgaleo?

[royal jolt]

I think MC Solgaleo is easier to cover for. Plus, the added benefit of an AOE sync

I've only ever hit 1M with Grimsley once and I still haven't been able to get there again

[woven fjord]

Got close. I think Solgaleo missed a crit somewhere.

Ah, it's a coin flip to crit all 3 each sync.

[royal jolt]

Yeahh... there's not much I could say that's positive. Only that it is possible

[unborn otter]

Cs2 and all crits vs sp3 and missing crits

Should i try for all sync crits?

[royal jolt]

Good work! I only had CS2 on mine, so I could try for a little higher

[unborn otter]

Thanks. I’m using type gear

I got this with colress

At least colress ex looks good

And good for 3v1

[royal jolt]

Absolutely not

You're looking at a 3.51% chance to get all crits

[unborn otter]

[royal jolt]

Save some of that sanity for Gauntlet 😭

[unborn otter]

I still haven’t touched gauntlet

I’m a do 10 and done type

[fallen trail]

first attempt, 2/5 ex rose 3/5 exr thorton

[unborn otter]

But deluxe lucky skills

[drowsy pier]

Is Classic Red + Colress better than BP Barry + SC Steven?

[royal jolt]

Whaaaaaaat?
That's where you get your HS1 cookies!

It's only a shame you have to roll through those other useless skills to get it

[unborn otter]

Idk. I only tried redlax and colress

Redlax has sync accel

And adr1 at 3/5

[fallen trail]

v thorton and sc steven synergize well i forgot thorton gives a 20% damage boost to allies just for being on the field with a restrained opponent

i could prob hit 2m if i candy rose but meh

[acoustic chasm]

Does MGR slow down Melony?

[drowsy pier]

After testing it, Redlax seems to be better

[prisma quail]

Sing MGR only procs when sing is successful.
If you have the enemy already asleep or paralyzed, MGR won't trigger. The move fails.

[acoustic chasm]

Oh ok

[woven fjord]

Made it

[royal jolt]

Nice!

[woven fjord]

Man, my thumb is tired.

[sacred badger]

thunder wave gaming?

[woven fjord]

Pretty much.

[orchid crescent]

is it better to use a 1/5 gloria or a 1/5 sc selene

(no pb/ex solgaleo btw)

[woven fjord]

Maybe try Colress first? You can get dupes of him from the Unova ticket scout.

[orchid crescent]

i do have colress 3/5

[woven fjord]

Gloria needs to be at least 4/5 to be any good.

[orchid crescent]

is he better even without hitting 3 targets?

[prisma quail]

I desperately need Steven and Stoutland to get support cake role... (He always should have been support, and gain sprint cake)

[woven fjord]

Yeah, somebody got 1M+ score with Colress + SC Selene, with Colress doing all the damage. I think the Colress is EX 5/5 though.

[orchid crescent]

oh nice, i dont have redlax/sc steven but thats good to hear

[floral lark]

430k with classic Red (EX + Role), Rose (EX 4/5) and SC Selene (1/5)
That's probably my best first try yet.

I'm considering investing on role and EX for Selene, this might be a good time.

[woven fjord]

The player did not use either of those; they used SC Selene and BP Barry

[orchid crescent]

oooh nice

i do have nc bianca, but i assume the colress isnt gridded for twave spam

[woven fjord]

Probably not.

[orchid crescent]

is there a video of the clear? im wondering when they sync with sc selene

[woven fjord]

The SC Selene in the screenshot did 0 damage so no sync.

[orchid crescent]

oh lol

[plain cedar]

is a million with Selene doable?

[woven fjord]

I'd imagine it would be possible if she's 3/5 and EXR at least.

[orchid crescent]

she has 4 sync move power up nodes and haymaker + metallic surge 9

at 3/5 obv

[woven fjord]

She could grab 3 of those sync nodes.

[orchid crescent]

so shes gonna be doing good nuking damage + its aoe

[orchid crescent]

yeah thats what i see too lol

[woven fjord]

She will need to be at least 4/5 with grid extension to get all 4.

[orchid crescent]

i'll try 3/5 nc bianca, 1/5 sc selen, and 4/5 ex colress this monday when i get some powerup tickets lol

heres the grid for nuking + twave spam

maybe go viral is more valuable here for turn denial stuff but idk

[sacred badger]

Damn she just.... Did it huh

[royal jolt]

Steel-type girls ftw

[snow raptor]

Enough for me considering my solgaleo is 140 👍

[sacred badger]

I have her at 150, its the 2 or so noncrit

Ive checked the numbers, non crit is like 15k to 40k loss of points

[tired narwhal]

Hey ninja, u think the difference between 800k and 1mil is just gear?

Idk how many syncs u were able to get in

Or is it crit on each sync the difference

[vernal condor]

[tired narwhal]

I didn’t know scizor was in the game. That’s dope

[long silo]

Was just added last April

[tired narwhal]

What’s SP3?

[tacit anchor]

super powered 3

[tired narwhal]

What cookie can u get that in?

Deluxe?

[tacit anchor]

deluxe cookies

[tired narwhal]

Damn

Guess I gotta do the gauntlet

[last stream]

Damn it rose, can you please crit

[prisma quail]

CS2 is usually good enough

[last stream]

anyone remember what the duration of DFs are? It didn't blink even at the end of my run.

[tired narwhal]

What is DF?

[prisma quail]

Damage field

[tired narwhal]

Ahh

[prisma quail]

Stealth rocks, Copperajah and Charizard Bmoves, H-Samurott ceaseless edge

[rare comet]

Max steel gear, cs2, many MANY paralyze/miss procs

[fluid anvil]

DFs last much longer than WZT

at least x1.5 longer, maybe x2

[vernal condor]

I think that's the best SC Selene team

[last stream]

well I was able to sync with it 4 times, it only started blinking in the last 5 sec

DAE have Rose EXR? :3

[prisma quail]

What is Zapdos bringing aside from paralyze?

Would a support/sprint sync on RedLax be better?

[vernal condor]

sync power 2

or whatever it's called, as well as speed and -2 aoe def

[swift pulsar]

Would like to see the grids and skills of this team

[vernal condor]

with red i would definitely run out of gauge

[last stream]

and you can reset for triple para + flinch on turn 1

[prisma quail]

Oh shit lol

I didn't even know he had that. They really made Blue/Zapdos the best unit.

[vernal condor]

nah i just reset for 2 para kek

Team S-Moves Power ↑ 2

[last stream]

got 1.794 mil with Rose_Tech

[vernal condor]

rose ends up being disappointing, I thought he'd get more

[last stream]

I think there was a non crit mon in each sync

[rare apex]

wahoo

[tired narwhal]

I can’t get past 900k😩

With that team^

[rare apex]

red isn't caked btw

[tired narwhal]

I have em caked too

Did u use red tm each solgaleo sync?

And just once each time

[rare apex]

yup

solga synced 4 times and it looks like all of them critted

meh skill gear + sp3 as well

[tired narwhal]

Ahh I only got cr2 and meh skill gear

[unborn otter]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=000000014300&s0=3&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=15010301&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFBgcJDA8RExYZGhseICMlJyg&v1=900001079100&s1=5&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=44&g1=AAECAwQFBgkeHyAiJSYnKCkqLi8wMjM0NQ&v2=019100060100&s2=5&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=15010101&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFFRgZHCMlJicoKywt

[last stream]

Was so close to 9th sync buff

[long silo]

Did both Blue and Melony have HS

[last stream]

yes

[vernal condor]

damn triple para

[long silo]

Hmmm so Speedy Entry Melony might not make it

[vernal condor]

When did you max move

[long silo]

Judging here lol

[last stream]

Maxing before Rose's 2nd sync

[vernal condor]

eh

[long silo]

Oh

[vernal condor]

try before the 3rd

[long silo]

I did it right before first

[vernal condor]

damage field wastes time

[last stream]

You need DF for the multiplier lol

[long silo]

But that ups his sync move

[vernal condor]

I know

but you'll get 1 more sync in the end

you'll get as many syncs as before under damage field, but they'll all be more powerful

[long silo]

That's worth a try

I'll try this tomorrow

[rare apex]

fairy mt will be interesting

[vernal condor]

you can even try syncing with both support if you werent already

[rare apex]

i wonder if diantha will be good there

[last stream]

I was syncing with both support

[fluid anvil]

acceptable at best. There is no good way to do AoE SpAtk debuffs fast

[vernal condor]

the oleana in my pocket

/ iris alt

[last stream]

stupid slow elephant ruining gauge

[royal jolt]

I can't wait for the Fairy DC so I can slap my EXR SS Wally down

[vernal condor]

I forgot I need to sync with both supports lol

[floral lark]

Did almost 673k and I'm probably stopping here.

[copper otter]

i'm confused how 1.1mil seems to be the average on SC Selene, meanwhile i got 1.5 mil?

didn't even have SP3, so it culd have been more too

[vernal condor]

i have cs2 and not so great gears

sync move 4%, move 2%

i have no clue how you got 1.5m with your barry steven team

i guess you got lots of para ?

[royal jolt]

Could be a variety of things: damage rolls, whether or not you crit, gear, how good your spam is, etc.

[vernal condor]

all those don't make a 400k damage diff

[copper otter]

OH WAIT, Accuracy drops which caused Play Rough to miss!

[vernal condor]

bruh

[copper otter]

LMAO

[vernal condor]

how did you get accuracy drops in the first place

[royal jolt]

Smokescreen Sync

[copper otter]

SC Steven tackle

[royal jolt]

Oh

[vernal condor]

why did you tackle more than once

[royal jolt]

Well
I wouldn't know that 😭

[crude sandal]

Kinda surprised how I'm at number 13

[copper otter]

because accuracy and can flinch

after B Leer

[vernal condor]

[copper otter]

it was only one tackle lmao

[vernal condor]

if you bank on flinch and acc drop why do you tackle only once

[copper otter]

i do it on the offchance i flinch, but the acc drop is guaranteed after B leer

[vernal condor]

bro did the worst strat, got lucky and won

[copper otter]

"worst strat" gets 400K more

[crude sandal]

[royal jolt]

Guess it wasn't that bad of a strat

[crude sandal]

Imagine losing to the worst strat

[vernal condor]

if you intend to get missed you should tackle more he just got dumb rng lmao

[royal jolt]

We love to see it

[copper otter]

for context:

[royal jolt]

Give me your SC Steven, please

[vernal condor]

also 4/5 steven means seun mpr

which i don't have

[copper otter]

oh right, that'sa a thing, but isn't that at 2/5?

[vernal condor]

yes

[royal jolt]

Yes

[vernal condor]

mine is 1/5

[copper otter]

yea, acc and flinch is 3/5

[crude sandal]

So what's actually the best team now?

[swift pulsar]

🤔 first try

[crude sandal]

Does it involve Gloria or Poppy?

[tired narwhal]

What damage are people getting with poppy

[crude sandal]

I saw a 2.5M+

[copper otter]

Gloria

[tired narwhal]

Damn

[copper otter]

Gloria has gotten 2.8 mil

[crude sandal]

[tired narwhal]

Did people make Gloria 5/5 just for DC or they had em before

[crude sandal]

I got it before

[tired narwhal]

Cuz like I never saw people using Gloria in teams

Gotchu

[crude sandal]

I got lucky on the 20% TM MPR proc

Twice

[tired narwhal]

The one time I got a tm MPR proc for red every sync, I did a weird Strat so damage was meh

I think the difference between 900k and 1 mil for me is just gears at this point

[crude sandal]

This is how I got my score
https://discordapp.com/channels/583120259708616715/1255888121648644197/1271402756845862975

[tired narwhal]

I’m using solgaleo tho

2.8 mil is good shit

[crude sandal]

I got 2 para procs along with 2 Gloria TM MPRs

[last stream]

thorton enjoyer

[crude sandal]

I needed a steel zone unit

[last stream]

I'm just in no-consistent-crit land right now. Yay 20%s !!!

[crude sandal]

When 20% is 100%

Any top clears that use V. Thorton?

[languid heart]

So, I noticed Poppy has the same passive in her sync grid that enables BP Barry to be extremely strong, and I’m considering making her 3/5 for it, but I’m wondering: will her passive defense drop kick in if I try to spam T-wave a paralyzed opponent and slow the game down, or is it free to full send for Fast syncs (or in this case, Gigaton Hammers)?

[tulip egret]

I haven't seen p.marnie in any of these clears, even though she has zone + defense debuff

Not bringing enough to the table?

[lusty galleon]

she has been used in some

I know one 2.8M used her with Poppy

[tulip egret]

I must not of scrolled enough

I have her and a 1/5 rose, can't tell if there's a support to make that all work

Or if solgaleo is better

[lusty galleon]

here is one

[last stream]

if only there was a calculator we could use to determine that

[tulip egret]

Lol I can't find a good support for those 2 is the issue

I know you can calc it

[lusty galleon]

Rose 1/5 vs full unlocked Solgaleo?

[tulip egret]

Yes

[lusty galleon]

Solgaleo lol

[last stream]

what supports do you have among the pinned ones?

[vocal prairie]

people actually have 5/5 Gloria darn

[copper otter]

she was able to get 1 mil

[last stream]

gloria's been around longer, so more people have her invested

[copper otter]

Pal Marnie clear in reply

[vocal prairie]

i will probably go for 1m solgaleo clear with Red and call it a day

my Poppy is 1/5 because there's too many strike pairs

[copper otter]

the solgaleo one is tight. i've been seeing people needing SP3 to get that 1 mil

[long silo]

I know we have a lot options, but still surprising Steel 3v3 is competitive

[proud minnow]

I got 930K only because I missed one one of the crits

tbf pairs like 3/5 Rose or 3/5 Poppy are excellent for that

[long silo]

Even then Colress and MC managed to get this so not like f2p options are not far behind

[crude sandal]

What are y'all's teams for 3v1 rock-weak this Tuesday?

[copper otter]

NC Silver/Paulo/SS DIantha

[long silo]

I'd go Diantha

[crude sandal]

I think I'll go for Redlax/SS Diantha/Melony

Which is faster? SS Diantha's TM after mega or Sing spam?

[copper otter]

might actually swap SS Diantha for SC Steven tho

[vocal prairie]

I only have Silver or Chicken

which are much better 3v3

[last stream]

I wanna say it was tested, I recall someone checking.

Maelmc did you have poppy or did someone else verify T-Wave spam from her?

[royal jolt]

SS Diantha, Colress, and Red

My attempt at actually planning a team, lol

[unborn otter]

Who is the chicken

[languid heart]

Fair enough. Was just trying to figure out if I should fully commit to Candy for Poppy since I’ve been undecided on that for lord knows how long for my sync pairs

[last stream]

Well if you own poppy you can check by getting the OPP to -6 and seeing how slow twave is

I wouldn’t candy for DC

This mode is constantly rotating no need to get better at one type when another one is going to show up in 4 days

[languid heart]

At least I can still test it with her 1/5 since the defense drop passive is innate

My only realization was that she could replace BP Barry is some cases if I had her 3/5 since I don’t have Barry EX

[last stream]

ehh, she doesn't have support ex for non-steel

-6 def is good, but it's only about ~22.5% increase

whereas the support ex is another 50%

[languid heart]

Mhm. Just a shame the EX is hard to come by…

(More so as in it’s not frequent enough for how many sync pairs I want to EX)

[languid heart]

Just tested it and the passive doesn’t slow it down at all from what I saw. She could totally sync rush if you had the Sync grid passive!

[floral blade]

steel strike is a thing

I assume MC solgaleo is not it

though prolly better than 1/5 raihan and gloria

[nova remnant]

Sol can reach 1m with Colress and Redlax

[floral blade]

sweet

[unique abyss]

so close, 987k with Grimsley, it's good to know that I'wont be doomed during steel st

[dusty ivy]

I think it’s a bit much tbh

Hard to keep up

I know a lot of people said they wanted content but like

I can’t keep up

[floral blade]

oh yay i got HS1 on colress

[dusty ivy]

3 day deadline

[floral blade]

dub

[dusty ivy]

2 one week deadline

Then the big thing come around for the month

[vocal prairie]

Selene

[honest tendon]

best i got with selene!

if i invested in special gear i think i could get it higher

[vernal condor]

Is that with super powered

[honest tendon]

yeah sp3

[vernal condor]

Makes sense

[thick stump]

Would this be the ideal selene grid for this?

Oh forgot haymaker lol

[tulip egret]

Do you all ever sync with 2 support ex, even if sprint in this mode before using your dps

Or is it always 1 and then dps

[teal harness]

HOW?

[vernal condor]

If you sync a total of 7 times (or more somehow) syncing with 2 supports is optimal

[teal harness]

best I did with this team was 566k

[honest tendon]

this is the grid i used but you have to uncap a bit

with fierce entry, you only need to use selene’s tm twice

and head start helps a little

[thick stump]

i'm content with this

[timid tree]

was blessed with three para procs

[glossy token]

so am i missing some steel aoe unit or is it basically just strike ex sync

[rare apex]

thinking wally/diantha/barry myself

[glossy token]

i did one run with barry/poppy/marley (to get +6 speed and then not do anything else) and i doubt i can do better just given the options i have (method was poppy trainer move - stun spore - x speed all - poppy buddy move - stun spore - x speed all - twave - stun spore - marley trainer move - poppy sync then loop poppy buddy move - stun spore - twave - stun spore + sync each 9

[pallid girder]

Wow such a close call

[fluid anvil]

is SS red any good for Fire 3v3?

[random cedar]

Useable and 1M is probably doable

[pallid girder]

3/5 Poppy? Pick Charging Infliction 2 in her grid and spam twave herself.
You 100% don't need speed buff this way, so pick both 2 teammates that boost dmg like a steel zone + a SEUN giver.

[last stream]

main issue would be fitting sun + para-sleep

[fluid anvil]

how do you buff his Haymaker?

[last stream]

you could wait till post sync to click tm

[glossy token]

i've only got her at 1/5 so far (my candies are few and far between 😔 ) but that would be the ideal

but yeah basically my 3v3 and my 3v1 will be effectively the same so i didnt know if there was a steel aoe unit i just didnt know about

[pallid girder]

You also shouldn't need sped buff for BP Barry spam too since he also has Charging Infliction 2, but if your Poppy is 1/5 you prob stick to EX + PB Solgaleo.

[glossy token]

gotcha, the sure-crit buddy move (which at least for me seems to consistently out-dps poppy sync) loses out to solgaleo still? good to know!

[acoustic chasm]

I am once again suffering from no Red (would have made 4 marnie syncs possible with Colress for 1.5M)

I tried Melony but the gauge is awful

[glossy token]

i have redlax but was thinking the twaves to unlock buddy move (hence needing speed) made that more valuable

so i'll do a run with barry/solgaleo/redlax and see how we do

[fluid anvil]

Sing: Move Gauge Refresh 1 on Elio doesnt do anything, right ?

[unborn otter]

how are my fairy types for triple?

[rare apex]

i'm convinced wally/diantha could work

[pallid girder]

Don't pick that. His base MGR 5 is enough to retain gauge w 0 speed.

[normal parcel]

It can't trigger if you keep missing

However even if it works you don't want that, it defeats the point of sing spam

Interesting how strats evolved and I scored more on psychic single than psychic aoe

Same for bug (but just because I had to invest in Hilbert)

[fluid anvil]

hmm, Elio has no sing accuracy nodes at all. Weird

[vernal condor]

https://youtu.be/nuxOZmZYIDM

[feral hamlet]

Surely 4/5 Gloria can do more, right? This is my first attempt

[spark prism]

Tips?

[random cedar]

I've seen 2M+

[spark prism]

Red and Selene have EXR btw

[vernal condor]

https://youtu.be/nuxOZmZYIDM&t=468

[spark prism]

Oh cool

[vernal condor]

welp

[spark prism]

[fluid anvil]

tested some stuff using Redlax - Elio - SS Diantha

• after 2 Supp syncs - the Field zone lasts all the way to the end even without the 5/5 extension 3. No need to ever click rock wish. This was the same with Akaris Field zone.
• even without Lythic Acceleration 3 - didnt run out of gauge, Elio is fast
• Had 6 syncs, didnt reach 7. This is likely because Elio is slower than Melony + it was 3v3 test + Redlax TMs waste time .. on 3v1 and if I dont use SEUNS on the first 1-2 Diantha syncs - reaching 7 could be possible

[cloud timber]

yea field ex does that and also doesn't stack with extension passives anyway

[feral hamlet]

1mil we're done here!

[nocturne smelt]

[fluid anvil]

it doesnt ?!

[random cedar]

Tate cooking

[cloud timber]

yea it already counts as extended

[fluid anvil]

All extensions should stack though. I specifically remember that SST Reds Field terrain stacks with his extension 5 passive (?) and that sync terrain lasts an insane amount of time

[cloud timber]

maybe someone else more knowledgeable can confirm but it is very easy for sst red to just not run out of terrain when everything is always extended

i just repeat what i've heard

[glad kraken]

i'm fairly certain the extension passive would stack with the field ex role

[lapis yarrow]

Is Super Powered 3 miles better than CS2?

[icy pendant]

better but not by miles

[pallid girder]

It saves your soul when your main dd need to roll 80% crit, but doesn't really impact much for PF/MF with sure crit sync

[lapis yarrow]

I'm not trying to be the best at DC but get over a million regularly would be nice lol Would SP3 do that?

[cloud timber]

nah

unless you're getting like 980k already

[icy pendant]

nah you get a lot more from team comp than you do from sp3 over cs2

[cloud timber]

if you crit all your syncs it's actually a pretty tiny improvement, just helps for the ones that don't

[lapis yarrow]

ok good to know lol My team comps are decent but missing a few of the usual suspects like Zapdos or Meloetta, sorry not good with all the trainer names lol

[copper otter]

I got 1.5 mil with SC Selene.

She had CS2. SP3 isn't going to matter much unless the damage is at around 900k

[loud cedar]

i definitely didnt press mirror shot on accident turn 1

[lapis yarrow]

Besides Barry who should have HS1?

[pallid girder]

Every supports you have used in DC

Like Melony, Red, etc

[lusty galleon]

supports can have either HS1 or Adrenaline 1, since they are more likely to sync

the setters (like Colress or SC Steven) HS1 as they won't sync

[hearty canopy]

I assume 5/5 EX Solgaleo outperforms 1/5 EXR Rose?

[last stream]

Solgaleo's sync move would be stronger yes.

At 5/5, you have 350 power with access to Haymaker with a higher atk stat.

If Solgaleo is not boosted, then it'd only be a little weaker.

[hearty canopy]

Is there something in grid I’m missing? Both sync nodes, superduper effective and haymaker, and all the attack nodes

[last stream]

who are the team members

[hearty canopy]

Colress and redlax

[last stream]

I'd imagine this would be most effective then:

though, I imagine not running T-Move Bogo 9 might pose an issue

[hearty canopy]

Alright will try that

[olive obsidian]

This is what I did

I think I got 4 sync moves in minus the zapdos for x2 buff

[cunning compass]

possible for 1/5 Gloria to do better than MC Solgaleo?

[last stream]

Without additional multipliers, her sync move would be weaker than Solgaleo.

[cunning compass]

thanks

[storm zinc]

Who's better 5/5 Colress or 3/5 SC Steven?

[last stream]

in what team

[storm zinc]

With Hop, Steven

[last stream]

If Hop is providing buffs, then you require a sync accel facilitator, which only Colress does.

If you use scSteven, you will have to use attack moves to accel the sync countdown. Which in-turn means using less sync moves overall.

[split hill]

What's the strategy for this? I don't have snorlax but I have the other two. My highest is 200k

[loud cedar]

do you have sc steven? steel zone setter?

[split hill]

Nop, is that required?

[loud cedar]

not really, it would have been helpful

but basically the strategy is colress debuffs with aoe screech and aoe para. aoe para fails if enemy is already paralyzed, so you spam that to speedrun sync cooldown and sync with rose everytime

your other option is sleep spam+nc blue

melony/nc rosa+nc blue

bp barry is also the same with colress but he has no debuffing+single target para, but has support ex

[split hill]

What does red do on that comp? Set steel zone?

[last stream]

Red has a trainer move that grants .

[loud cedar]

yup

[last stream]

is the equivalent of a zone in terms of multiplier.

It only lasts for one attack, so you hope for Trainer Move MPR.

It also accelerates the sync countdown, so it serves double duty.

[split hill]

I have eevee Elaine, could she work for that purpose?

[thin wren]

no

[last stream]

Elaine doesn't grant that nor have sync accel. She could hope for a 1/3 in chance of flinching the target to delay the opp.

[split hill]

Oh it's super effective next I thought it was physical moves up

Well if I'm aiming to flinch I guess nc blue?

[loud cedar]

and paralyze

so you can pair him with a sleep spammer

[rain copper]

paralyze and sing spam is more reliable

the pins have explanation on both paralyze spam and paralyze/sing spam

[split hill]

But I thought I needed colress for def drop?

[loud cedar]

tradeoffs

faster sync cycles for no def drops

[split hill]

These are the only guys I have with sleep

[loud cedar]

elio can work

[split hill]

What about falkner?

[thin wren]

can't work

[last stream]

no, it has to be sing

[loud cedar]

preferably you use elio for the support ex too

[last stream]

to be effective

[thin wren]

the entire idea behind sing spam is that it has no animation when enemy is statused so it can be spammed quickly

[split hill]

Gotcha

[loud cedar]

is it cope to recommend regice since they have two seun tms 💀

[thin wren]

falkner b move takes a while in animation

[last stream]

it's also locked behind hitting 5 times

[split hill]

So I sync nc blue and Elio and then only attack with rose when he can sync?

[last stream]

This is the basic idea behind the strategy

[hearty canopy]

This worked much better. Thanks

[thin wren]

btw do you think it would be worth to have a pin explaining the idea behind status spam(why it works)?I feel like a lot of people don't get it when they look at the pin@last stream

[split hill]

GO FOR IT! GO FOR IT! NOW!

[last stream]

if only there was a giant paragraph explaining it in the pins

[loud cedar]

if only

oh rock st next dc

time to field my ss diantha

[split hill]

How do I view pins on iOS?

[last stream]

+pins

[wispy pagoda]

See below on how to check channel pins!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/957144362624634931/1214245497754091570/Pin.mp4?ex=65f8693e&is=65e5f43e&hm=b9d9e7a1a428377ebb0ef122514359d2405dd3f4e0775c17f2146eb06ca90a67&

[loud cedar]

yeah its ass like that

[split hill]

Oh it's in settings, that's really smart

[loud cedar]

oh

[thin wren]

There's an entire command for pins?

[stoic crest]

What is best for this?

Please ping me

[sacred badger]

got Redlax?

[rain copper]

your best is Solgaleo

Solgaleo + Colress + Redlax can break 800k+

check the pins for proof

[hearty canopy]

Yeah check my reply above if you have redlax. 1.2ish may be possible

[sacred badger]

5 syncs with solga?

[stoic crest]

Oh yeah I have red lax

[hearty canopy]

Yeah. That MPR luck

[stoic crest]

I have sc Steven too

[sacred badger]

i kept hitting 970k

2 misses crits.

i had enough, 1.3m wwith poppy 3/5

.-.

(-1 strike candy)

[last stream]

kinda was hoping steven had more atk than f2p unit :/

[sacred badger]

steven is nice, but, he struggles to hit above 300kish at 1/5, 500k at 2/5

he really needs his EXR

at some point

[last stream]

at 4/5 he's 7% behind in sync

he gets a bigger boost from gear which helps him out

stupid bp nerf tax

[sacred badger]

the gloria/prestige event winnerrs be their lucky day

i'm sure they're gonna be using her for steelsolo in a few weekss

[split hill]

Not really working for me

[loud cedar]

colress gaming

[split hill]

I guess rose needs higher move level

[loud cedar]

oh yes he does

do you have solgaleo with powerboost?

[split hill]

Nop

[sacred flower]

use grimsley then

alolan grimsley should have enough power even if not AOE

or Colress if you have him at 3/5 and EX

[cursive linden]

Hold on

Can Alola Grimsley get 1M in this event?

He don't need colress too

[sacred flower]

I dunno, but if you don't have good striker sync

[stoic crest]

What grid for solgaleo? I have trouble with the site when I'm in the game.

[cursive linden]

Or SC Steven, maybe

[stoic crest]

Please ping me

[cursive linden]

@stoic crest

[sacred flower]

I suppose if you use Elio sleep, he can help with buffing Colress atk with TM, and Colress also has that weird accuracy drop thing on his sync

that is if you don't have a better striker sync

[cursive linden]

Alola Grimsley's TM has Supereffective UP

And ypu can get an MPR

wait no

No MPR

[stoic crest]

I managed to get 430k first try

That's not bad I don't think

[last stream]

With para spam?

[crude sandal]

Damn, I'm surprised. 8 hours in and I've been down 1 rank only

[stoic crest]

Yeah spamming thunder wave and using sun steal strike.

[cursive linden]

I got a bandana with Opp Int/Stat Cond 2% and Opp Stat Cond 4% on Main Character/Psychic and this is my points now

[stoic crest]

Or do I ignore solgaleo and just do thunder wave?

[cursive linden]

I'll stop here, i am still getting 100 tickets on average

[rain copper]

have you watched the example video

[last stream]

Solgaleo should just use the sync move unless the countdown is going to run out before the next sync

[stoic crest]

Oh

So just thunder wave

Red lax I presume syncs first and uses that tm to reduce sync

[last stream]

Setup Solgaleo, spam thunder wave, and 2 turns before each sync use red’s trainer move

Yes Red with ex should go first

Your only going to maybe use 1-2 sun steel strike at the end

[stoic crest]

Oh that's much better

If I had 2 more seconds I could have got 700k

I am going to assume with better rng it will be higher? Like them actually not attacking due to paralysis and a critical hit landing.

[crude sandal]

https://youtube.com/shorts/xqvjAemmEho?si=sbEnrcwbPN3sLTm8

[stoic crest]

So..I also have to use screech?

Because that video says reduce defense

[rain copper]

well you can just watch the video

[crude sandal]

It's a short

But you should get the idea anyways

[rain copper]

it's still a video anyway

[last stream]

They used screech but they also had EXR red

[stoic crest]

My red is caked

[last stream]

What an overly edited bonanza that was

[left vine]

I hate this, c'mon I was literally one move away from one more sync and that damn Aurorus just HAD to interrupt me

[stoic crest]

Yeah it looks good but I feel I'm missing information...like it says it lowers defense but how? I'm guessing screech.

[last stream]

Try with screech, playing at the slower speed can typically let you queue more easily ahead of the opponent.

Colress lowers def by -2 for all opponents

You have him in your team, did you not know that?

[stoic crest]

I just thought thunder wave all the way and ignore screech

Since it's slower

I did 798k this time

So....if I had one more sync I would have had it

[last stream]

Did you get more than 3 uses of red tm

[stoic crest]

Yes

Well I didn't use him for red's sync so I think it was 3 I used

Maybe use the TM before red sync too? I had the max move to refill it

[last stream]

Use a mini potion all in the first round of moves. A potion healing full hp targets will not animate. So that’s 1 extra countdown.

Use thunder wave first, then do 3x screech alongside Solgaleo buffing

[stoic crest]

I was using this grid. Is this grid from the video preferred?

I almost feel the video grid is worse

And I'm going to try that potion trick next

[last stream]

I just needed some para luck on this run

[last stream]

They didn’t grab all the ATK tiles and you don’t need sharp entry if your using red tm on 1st sync

[stoic crest]

Hmmm not sure I'm still stuck at the same amount

I think I'm getting bad rng, red isn't refreshing and solgaleo sync isn't critical

Because I think your red refreshed

[sacred flower]

you can use Red TM early and if it doesn't refresh, restart

[stoic crest]

Oh I'll do that

Thanks everyone

[normal parcel]

Remember someone getting 1m in dark AOE with NC Serena, did they got 1m with SC Zinnia too?

[vernal condor]

I know I saw someone use Zinnia but I don't remember the score

probably over 1M tho, it would make sense

[fiery seal]

Which team should I use? I’m new to this so idk what to do

[fluid anvil]

is Mix Red + Chase + Melony the best 3v3 Grass team?

[vernal condor]

probably

no way victor beats red, so it just comes down to finding the best red partners

problem with this team is you have to bmove 3 times to drop SpD

[fluid anvil]

not the worst setup

[vernal condor]

very awkward tho

because you either need to sync once without any SpD drops, or max move early

[fluid anvil]

max move early isnt much of an issue, your later field zone will last to the end anyway

[vernal condor]

i was more thinking about saving the max move for the end, to deal lots of damage

[pallid girder]

It's funny to think on top of being one of the most important support, Red would prob also top 3 different DCs (electric v1, grass v3, ice v3) as dmg dealer.

[thin wren]

We can never escape the red

[crude sandal]

I think Adaman will be the best both in 3v1 and 3v3

His nuke is just so strong that Mix Red can't outdamage it even with 3 targets

[fluid anvil]

Adaman beating Mix Red in 3v3 ? I dont see it. Red can also drop 1 or 2 b-move bombs at the end for extra pts
Mix red should get 2.5M+, likely 3M like Marnie could on Dark
Adaman is not getting that in 3v1, ~2M is probably his max

like Lucas was 2,5-3 times less than NC Nate in 3v3
ofc Mix Red isnt as strong as Nate, but the general idea applies

[normal parcel]

Grass AOE is the ultimate p2w

The best unit being one of the 2 unit begin 100% non f2p by any standards

[crude sandal]

How many times does Red use his B Move in the early time?

Because I calced Mix Red and Adaman, and Adaman is miles better

Ok, I'm going to assume for Mix Red you used his B Move 3 times

[normal parcel]

Adaman has single target nuke, unless it gets strike exr by then there's no way adaman will be the optimal grass unit for aoe

[fluid anvil]

ofc Adamans single-target damage sync is better, just not 3 times better

[normal parcel]

I mean adamant with strike exr should be the best

Him getting field would improve his single target performance

Support and sprint are the saddest options

[crude sandal]

Nope, Adaman is better overall

[fluid anvil]

for Adaman Strike > Field >> Support > Sprint

[crude sandal]

Adaman doesn't need strike to outshine Mix Red

[normal parcel]

But mix red has field