#Damage Challenge
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Thank you.
Ppl figured sing spam is actually faster than Colress/BP Barry spam.
I guess the point is Selene > Marnie?
if your guage can sustain then yes
no passives like charging infliction to stall and 1 bar gauge
I like colress for this because of the screech AOE. Will have to try her out.
whats the grid?
Selene, my beloved
Would someone be willing to try if Colress himself can reach 1m
Field units summon zone animation less w the cost of one sync, and that field typically will last the entire battle in DC.
I didn’t realize Gloria was capable of such big numbers. Is that all sync or is behemoth blade being used in there too?
Oh, I forget at 5/5 she gets rebuff too. Damn. I have her at 3/5.
for me it was syncs with two behemoth blades at the end
She need at least 4/5 for Haymaker
^
Thank you you two.
You can get an extra sync with smart command? I picked adrenaline 1 instead and I can only sync 2 + 4 (but didn't tried for massive dodge luck) thought that smart command stalled for a bit of extra time
Full Sync with Solgaleo all the way?
Fast spam
Score with rose and copperajah, grids and lucky skills at the end of video.
When do you guys use Gloria's Behemoth Blade at 5/5?
Thank you 
Do you have 3/5 holiday jasmine? she works best for that team
Rose will be probably best, but not at 1/5
What do you expect Rei, it's Steven. You would literally got more with SeleneEven though I believe 360k is quite bad for a Steven clear
So who's the steel aoe breadwinner? Rose as people talked of before?
No way lmao
Okay 5/5 Steven gave me 580k
Ppl haven't try hard enough to see all the options imo.
5/5 Gloria I assume?
is too early to say lol
Yeet
Yes, the highest one are full investment Gloria for now
Rose and SC Selene also passed the 1 million score
aight. screww the zone.
My 2/5 Gloria : 🧍♀️
trope is #1 rn
Yellow candy time
I mean for the first hour Akari dealt higher number than NC Marnie, but we all know NC Marnie winnin in the end.
how did aussie riolu get 900k with the same team lol
The multiplier is the same (unless the unit has some zone related passive) the main difference is the animation and how much syncs it can affect
holy shit
super powered 3?
Cs2
and I still think that I'm not using the optimal Gloria team lol
2 different comps and styles can hit 1.5 mil
4/5 gloria for haymaker
haadd 2 tm refrershes
I’m guessing I either didn’t get one crit or I can’t get any higher unless I am level 150
ahem for the chairman
didnt crit prolly
Fair, I shall try again
Ooh what're the strats for the first team
Team?
Barry, solgaleo, and sc marnie
The marnie with mawile
Yea understood
968k atm. with solgaleo + redlax +colress hrm
Ok I can definitely do better than that
I definitely didn’t expect her Wish to run out that fast
Sing spam
Paralyze the mid, sing spam until selene sync
In general it lasts 4 sync if you're doing sync spam.
Aight
And spam Red's TM too if it refreshes? Or like once per sync cycle
Yeah the one that appears after her first sync lasted so long
I’m not sure why her Wish one was so short
Raihan doesn't look too impressive
Why Barry over Colress?
4/5 Gloria gaming 

Marnie + 4/5 Rose gets -6 def so I don't need Colress
ok
Raihan has 2 of the worst sync multipliers in DC: kekwalk (not many unit can setup) and sandstorm (eat time)
I was thinking this but with Melony
Yeah, Melony can reach 7th Sync
what's the highest score rn
My melony+solgaleo+redlax team missed the 7th sync by 1 countdown
2 mil without para sing
why is raihan multiplier kekwalk again
Bc kek 
Hhhhh….
Random stuff like his entire grid
Kinda lazy design since you can put trip tewce+cakewalk on every unit
Still improvable, but requires a very good luck (2 20% MPR activation on Gloria's TM after her first sync)

How does Bianca work, do you need the 3/5 nodes?
3/5 gives you Defense destroyer 9 and flinch
And I'm done for this round, not fishing for two TM mpr
I'll never select random music ever again
This run require just one Gloria TMmpr.
Can be improved a lot with two TMmprs (in that case you don't need crit buffs from Melony) but I prefer to keep this pattern comfortable enough.
Not failing any crit the only time you don't use her TM is kinda nice too.
Gloria 5/5 EX (+2E), NC Blue 3/5 EXR, Melon...
Can't steven apply -2 rebuff? That's equivalent to infinite zone
Towering Force would've make more since he already has Tough Cookie.
Not enough gauge for her haaah.
Ill keep trying 960k.atm

That -2 Spd from Rose tho
At 1 min 10 sec remaining, Melony is gasping for Spd just to sing
Only 1.6M??
1/5 Thorton gang
I'm looking for a comp that lets him do 5 syncs
But I’ll try this too 
Almost just need 2 less sync crits hrm

Try with Elio instead of Melony
Omg! That's nice!

Oh true, altho he's not EX yet. I'll see what I can do
Can you share your grid for Gloria?
When MC Solgaleo performs better than Steven. 
it's in the video but
who would be the optimal partners alongside side diantha in rock dc?
Those who got 4/5+ Gloria during prestige must be really happy around about now
I do and I'm not
mine was long after prestige
@scenic grotto I don't have NC Blue or NC Rosa to be happy
I’m sorry for your lack of units
Almost 900k with f2p
Not even his boyfriend can save him, wtf
Oh?
I only got her 1/5 back then because I thought her accent was funny
What's the grid for Solgaleo?
I only got her 1/5 thanks to free pokefair select
From my knowledge, both sync buff nodes and Haymaker
Oh wait I forgot I just got this on Melony. She can cancel out Rose's -2 Spd
I'm also liking Rose/Redlax/Colress potential. He just needs to crit 12 times 
I supposed this is the best I am gonna get
Good enough
oh sorry ty 🙂
Which would be better among
- Solgaleo (5/5 ex, expanded grid),
- Raihan (Duraludon, 1/5 ex)
- Palentine Marnie (3/5 ex)
- Summer Tate (3/5 ex)
- Special costume Selene (1/5 ex, exr)
- Gloria (1/5 ex)
- SS Giovanni (3/5 ex, can exr)
np
@long silo hmmm from 1 mil to 2 mil is just gonna be 20 more tickets right?
Yeah this just sucks haaah
how'd you get enough gauge for melony to be useful? I capped at 450k with her
Only 2 miss and its 970k
ik diantha will be optimal by far for rock dc but what about her partners
That why Colress is there
Yeah this just sucks xd
Using TW when out of gauge
Try PR5 and tank by Sol. He can possibly get to that range in the end.
Really need Speed title
speed title?
And ofc i tanked with Sol, Atk and Def debuff suck
3rd dc unit
Got 774k points in first run
Coz red didn't give mp refreshes 
Will try more
Good enough for first try
Will 1/5 Gloria be worth using or no?
Absolutely not
she wants her nuke 😭
Guess I'm using Solgaleo lol
Finally got the 1 mil! 
you onoly missed one crrit?
Probably
5 syncs?
Wasn't paying too much attention
Bothered to equip gear lol
Power Reserves 5 does come in handy at the end. It's all luck though
I can get 800k with some adjustment
if f2p and she's 3+/5, yes probably
need 4/5 for haymaker, idk if 3/5 would outperform solgaleo
oh shit she's a full grid one
for some reason I thought she unlocked all her tiles at 3/5
Is the next DC’s (Single Rock) best teams going to be Selene/Elio or SS Diantha/SC Steven/Barry?
Paulo
SS Diantha is better especially since she has Trip Wire to slow down the enemies so you can spam more frequently
Definitely but not as the DPS
With NC Silver, probably
Aight
But sandstorm chip damage will kinda slow you down
It’ll be better to bring SC Steven and use Binding Leer instead of using Rock Tomb, I bet
Nah, Diantha can fully set up Cakewalk by just mega-ing
Rock Wish > Pink Diamond Storm > TM
Lemme play around with her grid
lol
Holy shit, it took me 2 tries to realize I didn't take Haymaker for Selene
Was wondering why I get low score for the first 2 tries
I see. So Diantha/Red/Colress will probably be best
With Redlax do you use Max Move or just sync?
With Paolo you’d have to spend some time shredding def
What is the grid for solgaleo with colress and redlax as a team?
Yeah it burns like 3-5 seconds but it can save you when his MP doesn’t R
Doesn't max move not waste the timer?
does 4/5 gloria take defense crush 9? I am tempted to just bring sc steven instead
Only if you queue right after a sync or another Max Move
There’s a bit of lag time
It’s minimal but sometimes it’s the difference between another sync
Bring Colress for def shred
Let's see how V. Thorton/Gloria/Colress will do
I actually think Paulo might reach 1M in 3v1 by himself.
He has easy to achieve innate and a lot of - cd.
Sandstorm is not that scary when opponent move less too.
@royal lodge if your stuff lines up right gloria will queue her sync right after the opponents and get her sync modifier for opponent sync buffs
Max Knuckle of Refresh?
my current lineup was with classic red and og elio (they both sync'd first)
Did anyone rely on Gloria TM MPR with Super Prep 9 gridded?
Does aurorus have higher def than the others or was I unlucky with crits?
Unlucky with crits most likely
Replenish MP
Because all DCs have the same amount of defensive stats
The guy who did 2.5mil with Melony and Blue did
Also my gear sucks.... Better gear +crits=850k?
Although I was only able to get the last sync off because of a couple paralysis procs
i should probably 150 my unit first
Definitely but I wouldn’t grind gear just for one damage challenge
I mean I have a ton of unused ones and stored up feather, it wouldn't hurt
Literally who
I can't do it
I'm not strong enough
WAIT, MY QUEEN IS BEST FOR THIS?
I’m fairly certain she’s the best option, for Selene/Elio core to be better it’d need to be the sync move debuff from Super Sparring
To get her sp def drops you have to waste so much time with her b move
Diantha will be better for vanilla DC
Yea
Super prep Gloria?
But like not having NC Blue and NC Rosa really hurts my scoring
5/5, yeah
I think this will be good enough
You better save UsUm Selene for 3v3 Rock DC... which you probably have wait until November since that already finished
Those MP Refresh 1s are killer, props to you but I’m not going for it x)
she gets 1 MP back after first sync
Does SC Selene has to be EXR?
I just wished we have tech EXR Gloria this month
Do you think NC Rosa + V Thorton will be better ?
I dont have 5/5 Gloria tho
I think VThorton + Melony would be better...
Ok howw
Dena: okay, sprint Gloria.
I literally have the same lineup
Tech cake and 3/5
Yeah that too, but the problem with that it is very tight for 7th Sync
Same for my chairman
I think so ye
But like
show me your lineup
With Nc Rosa i still get to 6 Syncs, with PMUN and 9 seconds to spare
I uhhhhh....am using 2 stars gears
- Grid and LS: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=010102064800&s0=3&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=15010101&t0=44444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFBgcRGhwlJicpKg&v1=024300088801&s1=4&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=11111&g1=AAECAwQFBhEUHiAjKy4vMDE&v2=004100046200&s2=3&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=18040702&t2=44444&x2=true&g2=AgMFDxEUFhkaGx4l
- Gears: https://imgur.com/a/4oa...
I wish variety thorton came to me on the discounted multi

I’ll probably get Chase next Mix pity
So gears are the factor huh
hmmmm
and your Gloria is just 4/5
Yeah, i missed SEUN
All the Gloria enjoyers must be laughing hard here huh?
you missed rebuff I think
Both 
How many syncs should I be getting off with Solgaleo? I believe I only get off 3
oh yeah
lol
I could attempt it
but my V Thorton is just 1/5 haha
so I can try to do as you, but will be without 1
NC Rosa and NC Blue right?
This is with the last 2 of Gloria's syncs not critting everyone
I only para one enemy in that fight so it is fine
yup
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I managed to get 5 syncs with solgaleo.
I think I got 2 para procs
Poppy is my only good Steel sync pair so...
depends on your team comp though
but my Thorton is not EX R
Oh, no Sup cake
I won't EX R a 1/5 unit unless fav haha

Nah, saving it for fave is better
Do you need 3+/5 Melony for her to work?
I have enough tbh haha
I get 4 with Gloria but are you having to shred SpDef with Focus Blast or something
Might be the difference
Same team comp. So 5 total? 4 from Solgaleo and 1 from Redlax? Are you using Redlax's MM?
Not really, but it helps
You have Team Sharp Entry and more Sing accurate
Why would you do that when Suncat is a physical mostly?
It has Smarty Pants on grid?
like, I'm having fun by using Gloria
so I guess I wouldn't mind investing to see how far she can get haha
I hate how I missed one candy for Gloria from 4.5 anni 
TM? yeah.
I just had multiple Refresh. so it looks 2/2 lol.
i could start using thosee 2/2 to get a 5th sync with Solgaleo
No max move..knuckle or refresh
I'm glad I used my candies on Gloria
I used max moove basaed on my screenshots.
Max moves are boosted by MUNs, right?
80 atk and 4% Sync dmg
No
Ok I will try for better refreshes with Redlax but not too upset with just under 900k lol
I’m uploading it rn
Got a better score with Rose (ex, caked
i know i can hit 1m with my team but, i dipped 2 miss crits is painful 😭
Time to throw SS Elesa and use Melony instead
GRRRR 994K

solgaleo enjoyer?
i got 50k with gloria
Is your Gloria 4/5 ?
Nice 🙂
the most ive ever gotten was 400k on a rock one
1/5
Whoever decided haymaker had to be 4/5 on Gloria sucks
My crit luck sucks 😦
Yeah, dont use her
2020 unit my friend
She need 4/5
my only steel options are gloria, mc and solgaleo and steven
I just got lucky that my Gloria got 4/5 thanks to that 100 Free Pokefair Ticket
Technically she's saved by that. Before 4/5 implanted she sucks.
I’m fine with it because 3/5 haymaker meant I wouldn’t have gotten her prestige medal lol
she was notorious for being the prestige unit where her sync move level mattered alot
i got two copies in two multis and that was good enough for top 3k or whatever in that event
good times, spending gems on stamina lol
happy they never brought it back
That's why she has Super Prep 9 and steel rebuff on hit at 5/5
And me not still coping about tech EXR on her
- Grid and LS: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=019100060100&s0=5&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=0&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFFRgZIyUnKCssLQ&v1=025500013100&s1=3&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=18090102&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFGhsdICElJyot&v2=900001079100&s2=5&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=13010602&t2=44&g2=AAECAwQFERQVFhkeIigrLi8wMTIzNDU
- Gears: https://imgur.com/a/qKrehV7
GL to cr...
can’t watch rn does melony need 5/5 or can she be 1/5
Anyway Gonna try a run with the 2 Experimental teams
- f2p-ish MC Solgaleo Team (Para Spam)
- Sandless 2/5 Raihan (See if Sleep Para Spam can even reach 500k+)
I would Wana try a run with 3/5 Steve Metagross but don't have the materials to EX (I think someone will do that anyway
)
Need 3/5 for Team Sharp Entry sadly
Or you must grid Sharp Entry for MC
And miss some dmg
2/5 Raihan better go DPS route ig bc his sync doesn't do dmg
559k with solgaleo/colress/red, that'll have to do for now
I doubt it's going to go much higher
Good enough for me
Even 3/5 you probably need Sand for Raihan (Sand Blaster 5)... There's Cakewalk but only be unlocked at 5/5
Also... Cakewalk on a unit without any Speed Debuff
... Kinda-ish (You need an Ally to apply it or use Trip Twice 9 on his Grid which at 4/5)
Yeah I genuinely don't see how Solgaleo can break 600k
2 TM MPR from her would've probably netted me more
How Rose fairing in this Steel DC?
But I'd probably need a para proc to save me some time
I think Rose is an easy 1m and one of the better options generally
Low a bar as that is
Steel is fucking barren

Some already reach 1m with Red and Colress
Just crit on EVERY sync on ALL 3 opponents. Easy right? 
So... Ditch SEUN for faffing with sleep running out of gauge?
How
Also that's not an accessible clear, I've seen the gear they were running
Still easy 800k
My gears only give 80 atk and 4% Sync dmg
Was my comp one of the best ones?
Not at god gears level that gives 35% Sync dmg
How much do you get per sync even? Bc mine was getting like 150k tops
- Grid and LS: https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=019100060100&s0=5&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=0&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFFRgZIyUnKCssLQ&v1=025500013100&s1=3&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=18090102&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFGhsdICElJyot&v2=900001079100&s2=5&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=13010602&t2=44&g2=AAECAwQFERQVFhkeIigrLi8wMTIzNDU
- Gears: https://imgur.com/a/qKrehV7
GL to cr...
Only got 3 syncs bc colress doing all the setup does your cycles in
When out of gauge, just use Colress’s TW and Melony’s Sing
Ok, now wish me luck in getting 2 TM MPRs on Gloria
And maybe 1 para proc
I'll try later
You need 4 syncs by Sol. That's the bare minimum.
No Poppy havers?
Well I tried to reach 1M w/ this comp
was poppy melony nc blue i believe
1mil is essentially a perfect clear.
like
each solgaleo nuke needs to be 3/3 crit
Good skill gears might save that.
if you miss one, itss like -15k, -20k, -30k, -40k
or something along those lines.
i missed 1 of his initial and final syncs 😭
I got 2 para procs but no TM MPR
Funny how I got Gloria's TM MPR while Sync Burst hasn't activated yet
I messed up
On 2nd thought... This might not even going to crack 300k+
Well maybe if the setup cycles were less shit or the gauge was better a fourth might fit
Such a funny number that I won't bother getting a higher score now lol
Not to mention I don't even know if I could.
Ngl. I forgor i had the monado girl.
I procced steel zone on second sync, and then stun spore gamed
Steel zone lasted the entire battle too
I got Gloria's TM MPR again without even triggering Sync Burst. Suffering From Success
i did colress melony selene
but i quickly ran out of gauge and started alternating between colress and melony lol, so ig sleep isn't worth with her
There we go
nice grid pyp
Do you guys even bother to debuff with Colress or its a waste of time?
That's the only reason he's there
yes you debuff
@warped gulch
maybe if V Thorton was EX R
that'd be higher
I ended with 7 sync boosts
Yeah, that same to me
So next DC is Rock Single (How good would EXR 3/5 SS Diantha
)
- Main Team: SS Diantha
- EXP 1: Attempt on BP Steven
- EXP 2: The "Other f2p option" in a very f2p team
I got 8 bc EXR
Do you have a video of that
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Could have gotten around 2,4M+ if I had just a few more miliseconds down the last moment. But I'd rather give up as the RNG level for higher points of this stage is too big to suffer.
For this team comp, you would first want Red &...
could have gone to 2m4 if i had one more mere second
but i gotta give up with this rng hell lmao
How?
Are there any Rose Clears this Steel DC?
Had a few miss crits but good enough for me ig 
colress has head start, barry adrenaline. only paralyze the middle and get lucky with crits and/or paralysis procs
with an optimum run you can get
uh
With some really lucky para proc you can probably hit 900k assuming all crits and SEUN
5 damage syncs in
3/5 OG Steven failed me. Guess I have to give OG Gloria a candy 
for me it went 120-250-430-650-880+1 sunsteel strike
Hold up now
that'd mean, i'd have to 3/5 SC Selene .-.;
If you roll HS1 on Selene, you can fully get by with 2/5
No one's done a pal marnie run
Found dead in a ditch
For anyone wondering, i did do a summer tate run....
500k
I love Steel-types so I've just been doing so many runs with my units
is pal another term for lodge?
ohhh
If you have EX Elio use him. Sing spam is quicker and Elio can sustain gauge at 0 speed unlike Melony.
His Doom Desire is the main source of his buffs, so his low score isn't entirely unexpected
I'm so glad Steven can still make it in the game
mine is 5/5
I'll attempt Summer Tate with Chase. I just think I'll have to switch to C!Rosa or something
Yeah...
Definitely not built for this mode
Without that Def down 2 on sync, it's hard to reach 1M
Mine hurriedly made it, at 1,066,182 points
I got 2 TM MPRs from Gloria and 2 para procs, but zone unfortunately wore off so I lost some damage
Mine has always been at 1/5. I never plan to get him further than that because yeesh...

I have him 3/5, but sandstorm is kinda yeesh
Maybe, Paulo/SuTate/Raihan... but ehhh
Is Sing spammer worth over Colress?
You should have both preferably as an option
If you cam reach onr extra sync
Not sure, but since I only have 1 application of steel zone and steel damage field, I used 2 ex support sync before those went up
Well, I've only managed 5 syncs with Colress/Gloria/V. Thorton
But defense drops made up for the lack of 1 sync
Both are valid options, one isn't necessarily better than the other because both have a weakness
Tweaked my setup a bit. Went for DF Sync Up in Rose grid, and decided to use his max move after Rose’s 1st sync (DF lasted whole battle), instead of using it as a finisher
Also, this is me with still having CS2 on my DD
Could do more with better crit luck
What the difference between 1 sync buff that can do 6 syncs and -6 defense with Trained Body 5 that can do 5 syncs?
Damn
Why Chase?
I was trying a run someone had asked about earlier
It was Summer Tate, Chase, and Melony. But, I swapped her for Barry
wtf?? im stealing that probably
Any 1m with solgaleo? 
With Redlax
Someone did it
They would both be around equal, but the bigger thing is having both colress and a sleeper (elio in this case) if you're using a physical attacker so that way you can get support EX along with def drops
Me = sad
Is in yt yet?
Don't know
Chat, thrre is still..... one more unit that needs to be tested.
I have uploaded one, myself
Help him.
I dunno if I can send links in here, though
The thing is, Thorton is a field unit with support EXR and Colress does his usual T. Wave + Screech spam for physical DDs
I think corless melony solgaleo could do it
With a sing spammer you can sync with thorton as 2nd, getting zone till the end
Also start syncing w gloria at 4 sync buffs, if you get two Gloria TMmpr again you can cover all her sync with SE under zone
I think is worth
Like i said, both sleep and twave spam are valid options, both have strengths and weaknesses. Neither are better than the other
Ok
With melony you should be able to sync one more time I guess
Now time to plan for ST rock-weak next Tuesday
F2p has gordie
Nc silver gaming
No thanks, I have my 5/5 +10 energy SS Diantha 
Does the steel zone last untill the end?
Why not both 
Probably ss diantha will be the best option
3/5 +6E Diantha gang 🥹
Nope
If it did, then my best clear would've done over 3M
It's a bad time to not have her Field role
It lasts if you sync with thorton by around 1:30 mins left
Too bad I synced around the 2 minute mark
1min n 40s
Gordie can probably do it as well. He got a 1M run during 3v3 Rock too
SS Diantha is another case of TM MPR hell
Her TM can do -3 sync CD per use after she megas
-3 sync cd? never noticed that
-2 before she megas, -3 after
Not sure if gridding her for Sp Def sync multiplier is worth since you need 3 B Diamond Storm + TM
Red has Group Morale Support 4
It is a 50/50 shot tho
is that faster than sing?
Good thing that melony+ NC blue + SC selene is pretty consistent, the only RNG needed is the 80% crit on sync
I feel like he absolutely can get to 1M, but I need better Eva and to crit every sync
Not sure
Damn I thought she could reach higher numbers
Hmmmm, which is better for Diantha? Rock Tomb: Trip Twice or Trip Wire?
Prob me skill issuing, but 1 mln is 1 mln
Prob TT
I'm running this
For the upcoming DC
(That's +6 E)
Yeah, she kinda needs to use something to activate Honing Hit
She maxes her stats with honing hit while she debuffs the enemy to -6 speed
Actually, she doesn't need to use Rock Tomb. Just use Rock Wish and use B Diamond Storm 3 times
To max out Honing Hit
B Diamond storm has a damn long animation
Which makes me wonder how she's going to max her Sp.Def for the sync multiplier
Cause she does that with her TM after her defense is raised
You need to trigger Group Morale Support 4 from Redlax
Is it a 3/5 tile?
It's his base passive
Or maxmove
What max move
so its Gloria >= Rose > SC Selene >> rest ?
Summer Tate and Poppy aint doing that great compared to the top ones from what I seen
Nah that's 50% and you need 6 procs
4/5 tile can buff spdef
I'm not 4/5ing Redlax
It specifies "when the user's Trainer uses a move"
Max knuckle
They were talking about the 4/5 tile
That buffs the team Sp.def by 2 after using max move
I mean, I'd just gamble with Group Morale Support 4
6 times?
You just need to trigger it once
Oh yeah just read the passive
Was wondering if it was "the higher the Sp.def is" or just "as long as it's raised"
"when Sp. Def. is raised"
Then yeah it's a free multiplier and Redlax is a good teammate anyways due to SEUN
Also Brute Wits is the "the higher the stat is raised" version
She outnukes pb solgaleo only from 3/5 onwards
Also para
Ah ty, forgot the name
So 3rd teammate is NC Rosa/Melony I assume?
And sprint role w 2 possible adrenaline 
Red is so good
i'd 3/5 her.
But then Poppy would want it tbh
Potentially, since Diantha has speed drops and that makes up for her absurdly long B Move animation
both are 2/5 currently
Trueeeeeeee
Redlax 🤢
You don't need to click B Diamond storm at all
You max your stats with rock tomb, debuff enemy speed with it as well
Colress?
so MC solgaleo can reach 1 million
Not worth
whats best team for steel?
I reach 960k with colress, solgaleo and redlax
Rock tomb animation is long AF too
I think it's V. Thorton/ 5/5 Gloria / Colress
Ppl still try Poppy with another spammer. That's not what I expected tbh.
You'd rely on Tripe Wire
Yea
But you have to use it to max cakewalk
No reason to rock tomb
??????
Nah, Trip Wire
You're wasting time with tomb
Also it helps to spam in the early rounds too
It procs again after she mega evolves
I will use Diantha with BP barry and SC Steven, so will have to use her B-move once to get some Defence
Also, y'all forgetting the most important part
Won't take long before I get pushed out
SS Diantha's B Move has split damage

What does that mean
It's exactly what I mean
Translation please
SS Diantha's B Move has no innate Expand Reach/Extend Range
But the stage is ST isn't it
Yeah, i'm skill issuing 😔
I know
diantha b-move isnt for damage, its to get her a defence buff + some def debuffs on enemy
You kinda need TM MPR so you can maximize her B Move damage at the end
Have you guys tried with EX Bronzong? 
Not worth the energy
Even when it comes with -3 sync CD?
Just seen this (not mine)
Yeah, i'm absolutely skill issuing
This is mine because mine is 5/5
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/15802/71902?s=5&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=13010602&g=AAECAwQFCwwNEBESFBUbHB40NQ
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Is 500k good or low for 1/5 Poppy?
But also there she is 5/5, so yeah, i'm still skill issuing lol
Depends, if she's 3/5 she should easily do 1 mln
Ooh, then yeah, it's alright
Yeah looks good
Mission accomplished 🫡
Selene has soften up.
oh zamn. so 2.5m+ club is Gloria, Rose, Poppy
Where?
Poppy vThorton Red should be the strongest thing for steel
Yes I think Poppy definitely has a good possibility to go higher. It's just less ppl have her so less people trying.
SC Selene doesn't have soften up
same
Oh wait sc?
I actually have these pgs but vThorton is 1/5
thought it was alt my bad
Not sure if supreme entry is better or worse than super powered 3
Is it worth trying even if i alr have the milion?
Redlax is prob better cause more SEUNs
It can only be used twice
so about the expected top 3
1/5 is fine, EXR is more important
Steven has seun mpr
Oh then alr
And with redlax you can paralyse and spam sing with someone else
And sprint support EXR
Paralyse sing is faster than BP Barry
I have every steel pg that came out in the game except zacian and duralodon, so i can try
Yes but 30% additive is really better? Than 1.5x multiplicative on the 1st 2 syncs?
But Redlax is -2 CD
Me = happy now
its not more, SC Steven has SEUN MPR too - and he gives rebuff x1.3 = should be better for 3v1
oh right she has soften up
Is more that red has sprint support
But Redlax can also TM MPR, has sprint EXR and has Adrenaline
Sing is still way faster and Red has sprint EXR
cd animation takes longer than clicking sing
I think the sprint exr and adre gets cancelled by the 3 extra seconds he takes
per tm
He does have moral support tho
Exactly
Which enables a sync multiplier
Group Morale Support to activate Scholar's Sync
Redlax + sing spam = bad gauge, redlax is slow
I'm not gonna use sing here, just BP barry, he is slower, but self-sufficient.
Sing isnt always optimal, especially for physical IMO
Tho you have to take the 50/50
doesn't lithic accel deal with gauge issues?
I'm absolutely skill issuing and idk how
It's fine you just reset for it first turn
if not you can still run rosa or Elio
Red + Elio is fine.
Yeah Rosa buffs speed too
Idt sing spam will have gauge issues
by itself? No , I doubt it. You still want plenty of speed buffs for sing spam
I might use Elio instead of Melony
Maybe record a video?
Elio is probably gonna be better than melony
Oh sure
elio gauge shouldn't be too bad
What grids are you using for this
Most optimal should be Redlax/SS Diantha/NC Rosa
nah, not nc rosa
She takes too much animation if she syncs
I never meet gauge issue w Red + Elio. Slower than Melony? Yes, but it is what it is.
more like Never Sync Rosa 
Are you spamming Twave with gridded charging infliction?
Elio doesn't have gauge issues, but is speed is quite fluctuating
But uhhhhhh
Ss diantha + redlax + singer will be better imo
Doesn't do anything
successful
The move should be successful
You don't sync with her, you wanna keep her on Aria form
You never succeed with sing
He never heal if the opponent can't go to sleep.
oh got it
yeh so you get 1 less support buff
yeah maybe with Elio its ok. I never used him so far. Either Melony or no sing at all
But i dont have 2/5 Redlax anyway, so no HE1 for me .. only 30% para chance
You just sync with the other support
simply reset
still you get 1 less sync buff compared to double suport comps
so she's not gonna be optimal
2 SuppEX syncs is optimal
I have 1/5 red too, body slam is tedious, but at least is the 1st move so is fast to reset
Diantha field exr sets zone for her before or after sync?
Is the bMove animation worth the -3 from Sprint EXR?
So zone mpr might be needed
Cause you wanna use zone at the start to debuff defense
Here, probably i'm spamming wrong moves at the wrong time
I am planning on using this grid. Should I drop soften up for lithic accel?
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
B diamond storm is super slow
wdym
You never click b move
This is what I'll be using
https://discordapp.com/channels/583120259708616715/1255888121648644197/1271413578746040384
Yeah but you ideally have to do so if you wanna go back to Aria form
So I'm asking if it's worth it considering she has a sprint EXR
Me who only have 2/5 SS Diantha
Me with only 1/5 relying on Gordie
Yes in DC mode we never do queue 3 moves all the time.
btw no cause her b Move takes almost as much time as it takes her to sync so never sync with her
What's the strategy with that team?
in that case you go elio
Not sure if elio is faster
spam t wave with charging infliction till sync
he's a good bit faster than rosa
Alright
If you can keep spamming sing without charging infliction even with a relic song and maybe a tm overall it should be a bit faster
60% gauge recharge can slow down quite a bit
no its not worth
Rosa isn't that slow if you don't grid charging infliction
Melony is faster, but melony has more gauge issues
The best is melony if you can keep up with the gauge
Isn't Rosa the same as the other sing spammers if you don't grid charging infliction?
Due to what
Is more that if you sync you need to relic song
Red should only use his SEUN TM, sync move and max move.
VThorton is literally just zone and support ex bot so don't ever click his moves.
Poppy after done buffing grids Charging Infliction and click Twave all the time until she syncs.
Double support generally is better
Ah
you are queueing moves from everyone
You should only touch Thunder Wave and red TM (once each sync)
No Red attacks, no mini potions, no Thorton attacks, and no Gigaton Hammer
Use Bmove once when time is about to finish
Look here how to spam status moves
#1255888121648644197 message
Rosa may be worth if you need the pmun/smun stacks for a good finisher
I am a Roserade/kling klang enjoyer, so ik a bit, i just lacked a strategy, thanks guys 
(i didn't know poppy could've done the trick lmao)
That Camper on the right is getting on my last nerve with how often it rolls a defense drop
Yeah
3/5 Grid should look like this
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/30300/95900?s=3&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFDA0PFxodICEjJCcqNDU&x=true
Dunno why I'm doing better with this team
did anyone try Colress as the sync nuker ?
Here you go @fluid anvil
(Colress Sync Nuke Run)
Can you post grids and ls?
Defense debuffs and +24 attack helps
NC blue is good because it enables melony and AOE -2 def bebuff + the 20% team sync multiplier is nice
Now i'm like this
I'm finding this TWave pretty slow to queue since i lose a bit of time when he says "can't lower the def. anymore!"
But i think it's an alr score rn
Would've been 900k if the last sync had all crits
This is with +6E. Colress is standard grid for sync rush, SC Selene is 1/5 but EX’d.
Yes that's why nobody really uses her over corless offtype
Fair, i'm still shocked about that 2.5 mln score
Poppy scored 2.5 m?
Yes slower but if you get enough dmg boost sometimes slower isn't a bad thing, which is demonstrated by SS Cyrus + NC Marnie.
poppy, rose and gloria
all hit 2.5 mil in the same range
poppy's is probably the most consistent
soo poppy, rose or gloria eh
Idk how she did this score, probably sorcery or something like that
@royal jolt is colress, 3/5 no exr selene barry or solgaleo redlax colress better?
Sadly SC selene feels the mega tax
Colress got 1m
Expecially since the mega doesn't even boost offense
If she get support ex she'll actually shine more.
Wait. How?
Colress, Barry, and SC Selene are much more preferable than Solgaleo simply because you have less room for error.
With Solgaleo, you basically have to crit every opponent every time
Most have him 5/5
I don't know 😭
Hmmm. I may try with 3/5 later on
Ok, can you post grids and ls for colress selene and barry?
I still have to understand what’s broken in my Gloria
Already done with Rose, but I want to see my 3v1 chances
She isn’t hitting for 2.5 mln
Sure thing. Gimme a sec
She's 5/5?
Imma file a complain 
Yes
Thank you
Are you fishing for tm MPR?
Im just unlucky with par, imma switch to thorton /colress gaming
You need MPR because of super preparation
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You don't need MPR on Steel Wish. I just didn't know what else to use energy on
Hmm, is colress or selene doing damage and is your selene exr?
Any useful node from thorton?
Colress is doing the damage. And yes, she's EXR. But, that has no effect on the outcome since she never syncs
Bc mine is 1/5
saw this comp on reddit
Oh ok
great but dam does it reauire specific stuff
Good luck!
Both bianca and marnie needs hs1
Don't even know what it does, I only know that is support field
He can paralyse
he puts restrained
and gives every pair a 20% boost upon restraining opponents
Don't have him and my Gloria is only 3/5
Nobody did 2.5 mln with OG Thorton smh
I just cleared with selene 1.75m
After sync burst you have to get one tm mpr on your last but one sync
And then the last
1 is enough for 2M
Maybe if selene gets all the crits maybe could reach 2m
But is impossible to land like 15 80% crits
It's 80% chance to crit on an AOE sync, right?
Is 80% to crit even for single target syncs (unless the sync is guaranteed crit or has soften up)
However for AOE is 3 individual rolls
So is 80 % per target
.8 of a chance to land a crit, there's three opponents, that's already (basically) a 50/50. Five times renders that around a 3.5% chance to crit all 15 times, I think
No wonder my Solgaleo wasn't landing crits as often as I would've liked ;-;
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
Yeah it took me around 4 tries before I crossed 1M
But there was nothing else I could use except 5/5 Steven so 
5/5 Steven gang
you might as well keep trying your luck with Solgaleo than using Steven
Yeah maybe it can, but I only tried it once and got 500k'ish so left it at that

cheers
me taking a lot of tries because my colress is 1/5 
Oof
@royal jolt how stacked are your gears? I got two mirror shots and a bullet punch in

Why not sync with Selene?
I'm attempting to record that Kimono Grimsley clear to hopefully upload, but it's so annoying
Debuffs are basically fatal
You have to crit every time (40.96% chance of it happening)
Pray for good evasion
Pray for paralysis if evasion fails
I swear I saw a Selene clear with 1M+
No exr
@royal jolt did you get 1M in all the DC stages so far? If yes how many units can you unlock
Give me 13 vouchers
At 1M minimum (including ranked) should get you 5 I think
Sadly, no. I failed the Dragon-type (both), Fighting-type, and Bug-type (single) stages
I don't have many good Dragon-types at 3/5 and not having Rei or C!Hop means you're basically not getting 1M unless you get a miracle with Alt. 2 Gloria
And I don't have Bug-type techs at 3/5 ;-;
I don't bother 1M points
Sometimes I just stopped at 800M something because I am lazy to try harder
800M is a lot
I mean K lol
Ig you pretty much need SC Selene to let Colress & Alola Grim reach 1M
Any Steel Zone setter could. With SC Selene, the Steel Zone Extension by 3 is just a little more helpful
Would've been ~950k had I not missed crits
But for Colress isn't SC Selena's buff also a key element?
Not really
All SC Selene does in that team is provide Steel Zone. I guess you could make things easier by syncing with Selene, but when I put units like him and Kimono Grimsley to the test, I want to let them do the work
What I’m seeing so far is that Gloria/rose/poppy can all get to top100 if fully invested
There’s seems to be a Gloria supremacy but idk how much it’s going to last
Its gonna be weird when we dont know for sure which of the 3 will be at master 1 comp at the end.
I might have to put all 3 in my doc. Or Gloria/Rose
Selene should also use tm on colress
Colress sync is physical
Even if mirror shot is special
Right, forgot that
My bad
Yeah, Steel Zone and TM
so close
and rebuff
And rebuff ig





