Damage Challenge

[prisma quail]

If you have gotten 1 million on every fight so far, today is probably when you get the 5th unit

I'm just under 1500 tickets, and I didn't hit the million on single ground or single bug

[chilly prawn]

Who goes to 3/5

[sour lark]

Wonder which pair would be the lowest priority (and therefore sixth in line). Guess it may depend on if the player already has (e.g.) Rock Zone so they don't need Nemona

[long silo]

Yoooo

[prisma quail]

For damage challenge: Genesect

But I like Vivillon more

[orchid notch]

Im missing 85 and i did get 1M+ everywhere except 949k at ground and 500k today

[pallid girder]

At this range he definitely can reach it at 5/5.

[chilly prawn]

I forgot to ad viola is caked

[long silo]

I missed a 1st sync crit here so all 4 syncs must crit

[prisma quail]

My caked Viola I have reached 660 points

[long silo]

Maybe I'll attempt to record this

[cursive mauve]

Thanks Skippingmud 🥺

[pallid girder]

WOW Bianca gaming again.

[fiery rose]

Unova Circle does numbers

[long silo]

I saw that vid just now

But I can't replicate it

No EXR Bianca, no Ingo

[snow raptor]

Everything 1/5

[prisma quail]

Wait, is this a clear that doesn't spam status effects to cheese sync?

[eternal pecan]

Is there a way to replicate without bug zone?

[cursive mauve]

Yes

[long silo]

Yes. Hyper focus on B Move

https://youtu.be/NvuOGzCr7Ns?si=AZPbHxFd9T3QaD2K

[prisma quail]

Damn.
My Virizion is only 1/5 but that might be worth it to actually enjoy a fight

[fluid anvil]

Barry! impressive

[safe prawn]

If only I got a tm mpr on Barry this would have been above 2 mln

[pallid girder]

I was gonna ask "can Nate replace Bianca bc physical circle boost more" then I rmb no support sync lol

[thick holly]

That and also Bianca has alot of useful shtick like defense destroyer 9

[warped gulch]

And most importantly, flinch

[thick holly]

but you won't really use that in dc if you spam statuses

[safe prawn]

Now Hilbert did not crit a sync

[eternal pecan]

i think im cooked theres no way to replicate this run without ingo

[fluid anvil]

Another near 2 million using BP barry + bug zone
I'm convinced that its superior to Melony/sing strat here

[safe prawn]

It’s Eva gaming bc Ingo is tanking

You need 3 miss/par in order to slot 4 syncs from Hilbert and I’m setting up bug zone only for last 2 syncs (with SEUN)

Just saying last sync does like 900K dmg

[fluid anvil]

You can get just over 2M using BP barry + H.Viola too .. with 5/5 Hilbert ofc

[safe prawn]

1/5 Hviola vs my 3/5 ingo

[thick holly]

ugh

[safe prawn]

Hviola has increased chances of staying par
Ingo has Eva gaming

More or less the same they are

[pallid girder]

Hviola's strength is summon zone without clicking any move.

[safe prawn]

But you have to sync with her

[true locust]

Not bad

Got 0 para🤣

[primal blade]

for Steel 3T i have a hard time deciding between my 5/5 Gloria and 3/5 EXR Poppy, which would be better?

[pallid girder]

We generally sync w 2 supports first in other team so that's not a big deal?

[nova remnant]

5/5?

[true locust]

Yes exr 10E

[nova remnant]

Ah

[safe prawn]

Hilbert desperately needs +10E

His grid is waaaay expensive

[safe prawn]

Just give them a try both

[pallid girder]

I think you just try both or wait for the answer.

[primal blade]

guess i will

[orchid crescent]

not having any limited or 3/5 gen pool bug pairs is so pain

[pallid girder]

Some ppl are hyped for Gloria bc she's a tech striker in disguise.

[primal blade]

ye bug is probably the worst type in the game right now imo

[orchid crescent]

hit like 115k points with noland and pinsir 💀

this is prob a skip dc though

[primal blade]

that's the reason i have a hard time deciding, considering my gloria can apply rebuff on 1 of the opponents and once opponent sync her nuke gets stronger

[dry whale]

I missed a crit , this should probably be 2.35m 3/5 SS Hilbert

[pallid girder]

On the other hand Poppy can spam herself, so you can actually pick 2 teammates both distributing her dmg.

[orchid notch]

Confirmed it is easily reproductible, didnt have HS1 on both Ingo and bianca still managed to do it

[fluid anvil]

rare Chase haver

[nova remnant]

Anni with PF select pls so I can grab a Chase

[jagged radish]

soo.. just woke up, hilbert 3/5 can do over 2m?

[last stream]

5/5

[dry whale]

Look back at the DC lore , bug weak was the first time Chase made a huge splash , it was all because I did not have Bug Zone.

[lapis wigeon]

hey which would be better for dmg challenge? 5/5 noland pinsir or 1/5 lusamine pheromosa?

[pallid girder]

Yes you're a legend lol.

[jagged radish]

only 5/5 can do over 2m? around how much can 3/5 do (without exhorbitant gears)

[pallid girder]

Don't have 3/5 Guzma?

[lapis wigeon]

nope 😦

[last stream]

#1255888121648644197 message

[jagged radish]

ty... 1.4m hu hmmm, will wait to c if to invest on barry or genesect (1/5 and 2/5 currently)... feeling like barry though and he seems to get 1m

genesect having multiplier at 5/5 pisses me off.

[fluid anvil]

wait what, you did 2.14M with a 3/5 SS Hilbert* ? HOW ?

[dry whale]

Easy, I got an extra sync in.

[fluid anvil]

meant hilbert

[pallid girder]

SC Barry need 3/5, SC Ingo AND NC Bianca.

[fluid anvil]

I thought 3/5 Hilbert cant go over 2M at all

[last stream]

Chase also raises evasion so maybe some misses as well.

[fluid anvil]

so with 5/5 + Chase it can do 2.5M+ ?

[dry whale]

I bet you most Hilbert's are only syncing 4 times. I got another one in

[jagged radish]

got em, gonna check a vid..... curious as to wtf happened to para/sing metalol

thought that was gonna be from the beginning to the end.

of DC meta

[last stream]

I’ve been waiting candy Chase for a while. Gonna wait for those 100 summons

[pallid girder]

I feel like Chase is always better than NC Blue if you're willing to reroll for a perfect run that he never gets hit.

[jagged radish]

I like Thunderbolt red since u don't have to rerun anything?

[dry whale]

He has been the only reason I'm keeping up with the Wailords when I do have the correct units.

[jagged radish]

been using blue cause higher number with his sync def/s down enemies, just discharge reset can be so annoying...

[fluid anvil]

I think at 3/5 he is just better than blue on average as well. Even if his regen passive procs a few times
At 5/5 - definitely always better for 3v1 as he can now do -spdef too

[last stream]

Until electric 3v3 at least

[pallid girder]

He does - spdef?!

[fluid anvil]

at 5/5

[last stream]

At 5/5

[fluid anvil]

but single-target

[jagged radish]

indeed... cause rebuff

sad i don't have chase now, picked elaine on a select instead

[fluid anvil]

the main reason is that kanto circle is x1.2 (for all special damage), but Blues passive is regular additive 20%, only for syncs

[dry whale]

The real quest is would having both rebuff and circle offset not having terrain.

Assuming Ash is the 3rd

Hmm just realized, you have to pick one or the other since your going to need someone to enable sync rushing

[pallid girder]

No. SS Hau.

[jagged radish]

i'm curious to c on electric stage how much ash b move can do after... like 7 syncs lol

imagine that doing 1. somethign mil , maybe even 2.m all on its own haha if setup correctlly

[fluid anvil]

actually DC still has the damage cap of 999,999 IIRC

more than 999,999 wont count

[cunning rock]

Kinda shocked that this did better than 1/5 Hilbert

[jagged radish]

Ic, didn't know DC had a cap on damage lol

makes sense though

[thin wren]

unfortunately it's bounded by cap. Only moves that could go over 1 mil are powerful aoe moves like ss glad b move

[thin wren]

in electric dc nc Blue should be better. Especially since I think both hau and Ash can sustain melony sing

[true locust]

You sync 5 times? How many para miss you got🤣

This is way too lucky

I dont use hilberts 5/5 grid any way

[dry whale]

Plenty, you did pass me about 5 minutes later.

[true locust]

I got zero🤣

[dry whale]

Oh so it was raw power in your case

[true locust]

If i got 1/2 i could use his trainer move 1 time more for sync

So over 2,3m should be

Yes power off spam sing🤣🤣

I use his trainer move 3 times on 4 sync since no time for more

2 para is optimal for 4 sync super up next

[jagged radish]

love how SC barry needs no bullshit strats to get over 1m, just raw move damage with ally buffs.

[dry whale]

I'll probably be experimenting later , I do agree 2.3 seems like the number to aim for.

I'm guessing people with amazing skill gear can hit 2.5 and I'm not even thinking about the 5/5 stuff

[true locust]

I have 65 special attack on gear on him

[normal parcel]

In the end candied to 3/5 and gave Rolex to Hilbert, got like 1.3m with NC blue + melony and wasn't even a great run

[true locust]

So 100 Special and 40-45% yep 2,4-2,5m

[normal parcel]

Just gave him 100 from gear

I think I had 6% but on techno blast (pretty useless)

[lapis stone]

what's the highest score anyone has made with no bug type limited units?

[copper otter]

At max 500k

[lapis stone]

do you have a link to the team? max ive made is 220k and i feel like i should be able to get more

[normal parcel]

This was my best with free bugs

Jasmine isn't mandatory

With regular Hilbert I think you can still score over 500k

My Nolan was cs2 and not ex

[lapis stone]

i havent even tried nolan tbh

only tried burgh, lusamine and guzma

[normal parcel]

If you have ex Nolan with SP3 It Will perform better

[fallen trail]

is there a better team for 3/5exr ss hilbert (that doesnt use h viola)

[lapis stone]

what could you replace jasmine with?

[fallen trail]

if ingo got more dodges this could be higher probably

[normal parcel]

Regular Hilbert, or maybe Sonia

[lapis stone]

i feel like im doing something fundamentally wrong cuz blue and zapdos, lusamine and burgh was only 200k for me should that not do better?

[normal parcel]

Sonia with an MPR can max both Nolan and Guzma stats and she has defense crush 9 and staggering

[warped gulch]

Noland 5 star should be score 500k

[normal parcel]

Sonia can also paralyze if you want to try some paralysis luck

[warped gulch]

Wait my Noland has Grass Guard

[fallen trail]

bruh

tapu bulu moment

[lapis stone]

mk i shall try nolan

[normal parcel]

I sync with Nolan 1st so I can mega and start fury cutter

[warped gulch]

[prisma quail]

Cook.

[fallen trail]

hmm

having to waste time rebuffing 3 enemies in the aoe probably hurts

[tiny mist]

I have exact same roster 😅🤣

what are we using? 🤣

[fallen trail]

ex viola nuke

[fluid anvil]

2/5 Hilbert

[last stream]

Definitely need a new icon for crit, hard to tell when playing silent 😭

[dry whale]

Apparently I just got very lucky with my previous score. I have not come even close to getting the RNG required to hit 2.1m+

I do agree with you Sages that's definitely one QoL I've been thinking about for a while now.

Have it splash on top of the opponents pokemon with the numbers

[last stream]

I got 1.6 million with 4 Hilbert syncs how many didn’t crit

[vagrant ivy]

the final and most important sync didn’t crit all others did

[fluid anvil]

shrodingers crit

[nova remnant]

Trade offer!
You received
Hilbert TM MPR

I received
3 out of 4 no crit syncs

[tulip egret]

Will hilbert be good for the single damage for his other elements

Just curious if he is missing any multipliers or if bug is by far the best one

Or nevermind his sync type is always bug isn't it

[nova remnant]

His sync is always bug so no

[cunning rock]

At best, he's useable in all of the other types that he can hit for his rebuff.

And if they're special attackers, he can still contribute via Metal Sound spam

[tulip egret]

So one rebuff plus lower special defense?

Would that warrant a team slot? Maybe?

[fluid anvil]

Not really no

[last stream]

A x1.5 field effect is more effective than that.

Unless said pair has sp.Def multiplier

[pallid girder]

Yes he's used in some past non bug 3v3 DC bc the aoe sp.def drop.

[fallen trail]

pretty sure he's still the fastest aoe sp def dropper

alt selene can now too but she also poisons while doing it which is bad in this mode

[fluid anvil]

Fire, Water, Electric, Ice - I cant imagine that he is the best choice in any of these 4 types, for either 3v3 or 3v1.
All 4 are stacked and dont require Spdef debuffs (or can do them themselves)
all 4 also have rebuffs of their own

[pallid girder]

Summer Gardenia is faster than him now.

[fluid anvil]

if you dont have SC steven or Larry (or any rebuffer for the type) and want rebuff for 3v1 Fire, Water, Electric, Ice - maybe he can work out as an option .. still not optimal though

[swift pulsar]

I’m missing something I guess

[last stream]

You need 4th sync on Hilbert.

you might not have critted the 1st one possibly

i only did the calcs for 5/5

[tulip egret]

Is hilbert worth one candy to get him to 3/5? Is it gonna be a huge change in performance here

[neat burrow]

Can probably push higher too

[last stream]

With strike ex role he’s currently the best for both single and multi target. Though the last CS stage has a bug type in it. So no blaming me if they announce a bug MF.

[hushed epoch]

remember investing hilbert means investing 5 types

[swift pulsar]

I think it’s a gears matter or not executing the moves in the right order

[dry whale]

You heard it here first Sages is saying Power Trick Shuckle confirmed

[neat burrow]

Does he get brainpower at 4/5?

[hushed epoch]

Even with my 5/5, no bug zoner really hurts

[swift pulsar]

He gets it at 3/5

[last stream]

Brainpower 3/5
Cakewalk 5/5

[neat burrow]

I’m not using cakewalk it’s too hard to setup and slow

Because they buff speed 2

[hushed epoch]

You dont need to 5/5

[neat burrow]

I have 5/5 this is my current grid setup been tweaking it around

[last stream]

Well the 2+M runs are using Cakewalk. But I wouldn’t recommend candying anything in run-up to anni month.

[swift pulsar]

I’m out of resources anyway … this damage challenge made me use every cake and candy I had saved

[neat burrow]

Yeah I tried running it with Barry having slow as well but wasn’t working maybe I’ll try again

I’m sitting on a ton of resources Hilbert is my only 5/5 limited but I got it from the banner pulls

I got 5/5 Hilbert, 3/5 Hilda and 2/5 N in a single pity run

Was insane lol

[hushed epoch]

This maybe better?

[last stream]

Cakewalk is worth the setup.

[neat burrow]

I’ll try a cakewalk setup

In a few

[last stream]

https://youtu.be/KOlyM0W8k-k

[hushed epoch]

you have to sacrifice one rebuff then

all 5/5

such investment

[last stream]

Total multiplier is increased more by cakewalk.

[fluid anvil]

I kinda doubt that dropping Hilbert’s Aim for Cakewalk + Super Slowering Hit 9 is worth it
Not only does it cost way more energy, but you have to technoblast 3 times

[hushed epoch]

superduper effective 1 is worse than +15 spa?

nvm it just boosts move

[last stream]

BP x 2 x 3 x 1.3 = BP x 7.8 //cakewalk
BP x 2 x 2 x 1.5 = BP x 6 //hilbert’s aim

[last stream]

You also gain additional queues by lowering their speed.

I’ll see what I get without cakewalk

[hushed epoch]

Can hilbert cook

[last stream]

I was able to get 1.3m without cakewalk

Still only got 4 syncs.

Cheren was close to his 2nd sync though.

[normal parcel]

4/5 Hilbert with 4 syncs should get more than 1m even with some missed crits

[normal parcel]

His sync is always bug, so is only one type sadly

Sadly DPS is quite useless in DC, is mostly useful as a finisher

[hushed epoch]

ugh this record seems relying on paralyze stun a lot

i hate rng so i give up

honestly i dont feel like relying on rng is a good design that's why i see this content is boring

[last stream]

no you see, you go reset for turn 1 flinch and stun :3

[fluid anvil]

pokemon always had lots of rng

[normal parcel]

I accept a bit of rng only if the unit has guaranteed crit

Don't want to add RNG on top of maybe MPR RNG, and also crit RNG

Even fishing for 1mpr without soften up is pain

[neat burrow]

I have been trying cakewalk I can’t come close even with a para

Vs my other setup

[vernal orbit]

Are viola enjoyers using nc serena?

[safe prawn]

I should pin main character and champion too

[pallid girder]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonMasters/comments/1ellht9/help/
This is the best HViola score I've seen.

[vernal orbit]

huh, steven even here

Thank you

[misty forge]

I've seen 1.05mil

With her

https://x.com/TALDYSJfJNLjkzP/status/1820863804781253073?t=kECoPqcM0knCQv8fjul0BQ&s=19

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ラストのB技で急所外したけどなんとか100万超えた…ファイヤー単騎よりしんどかった…

Twitter · Aug 6, 2024, 4:45 PM

Nvm misread

Still

[vernal orbit]

Gave it a shot with nc serena and nc rosa but wasn't that great

[pallid girder]

Wow you should inform this to that op. They seem desperate!

[neat burrow]

Yeah I can’t figure out how that dude hit 1.9 with NC Blue, SS Hilbert, and NC Rosa best I got was 1.4 mil which is lower than my best without going for cakewalk

[unborn vault]

Best f2p strikers out there?

Fury cutter is doing... decent...?

[last stream]

should be guzma, with towering force

[normal parcel]

I think Nolan + guzma

Don't know if guzma with premium supports can score better

[pallid girder]

It's the rare case when DPS helps build up dmg more than sync ruch only

[acoustic chasm]

BRUH FCK THIS GAME

[long silo]

Got it!

[acoustic chasm]

THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A 640K IF GUZMA DIDN'T MISS A CRIT AAAAAAAA

[daring bough]

whats my best bet for now for damage stage ?

[lapis stone]

what's your strategy with this team?

like who syncs, what order do you q moves, do you need nolan flinches?

[vernal condor]

Tf is that team

Do you just spam fury cutter lmao

[acoustic chasm]

Get first impression initial propulsion on Guzma, static cling and team fierce entry on Jasmine, staggering and DC2 on Noland
Jasmine syncs first, then Guzma syncs 3 times (will need 1 MPR on SEUN), Noland just spams Fury Cutter inbetween syncs and hopes for early defense crush procs

[thick stump]

yea i got 1.28 mil with that same team

did your syncs crit?

i saved hilbert's seuns for the last 2 syncs

[acoustic chasm]

Use Jasmine's Potions and SEUN to buff the team's crit

[vernal condor]

Not even 1 sync from Noland ?

[acoustic chasm]

Not enough energy to pick up Inertia (and no speed buffs also)

[vernal condor]

I was thinking for the mega

[slender venture]

I'm gonna copy that

[acoustic chasm]

I tried, it's worse

[vernal condor]

Since you use fury cutter a lot

Uh ok

[acoustic chasm]

This game loves pissing me off 🙃

[true locust]

Bug f2p for this event is ….

[pallid girder]

Well it's f2p lowest low ig? I don't think fairy 3v1 would score this low.

[feral hamlet]

Is even 500k locked behind 3/5 Hilbert??

[lusty galleon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/881833427643531264/1270481033028178000/Screenshot_2024-08-06-15-37-12-743_com.dena.a12026418.jpg?ex=66b3db2a&is=66b289aa&hm=4ab1263e2468eb7b34d56ddc6750a4a33eab82ff3cc4b50a525d22859424b6c2&

hmmm

[rapid sparrow]

3/5 ss hilbert does the job?

[lusty galleon]

yeah

he should

[fluid anvil]

I got over 700K with 2/5 Hilbert
dont use NC Rosa if the stage isnt Psychic/Fighting

[feral hamlet]

Thought I'd make up for it with Sp attack up next. Well, that was my first attempt so I'll try something else later

[lusty galleon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/881833427643531264/1270493540950216836/Screenshot_2024-08-06-16-27-29-890_com.dena.a12026418.jpg?ex=66b3e6d0&is=66b29550&hm=c9bf85606cb1611a511a0810a361563a348f4c5a0222648ee649b9643b309cea&

hmmm, closer to 900k

[clever wasp]

Does SC Barry need exr for a mil

[icy pendant]

I would assume so yes

exr is tech so that's a 50% multiplier right away

[clever wasp]

I already have like 3 strike techs I kinda wanna save my tech role for another

[hushed epoch]

Nah it’s really impossible to get >1m unless it’s at least 2 paralyzed. To get that 1m9 it still requires a lot of paralyzed for less animation. I tried many times with my mechbert 5/5 with sp3 (except rosa is with head start instead of ardenalize) but it’s still very rng-based. My best record is 1m2 and maybe super duper gears can boost more but it doesnt make the 1m9 gap tighter that much

[clever wasp]

651k is my highest without exr

[hushed epoch]

Im specifically talking about rosa/blue/mechbert comp from the youtube link showing the highest record(?) from using mechbert w/o zone

[clever wasp]

Oh

[last stream]

4 syncs is achievable with some stunning, the real challenge is 5 hilbert syncs

[last stream]

that video had 3 stuns

[clever wasp]

Makes me question still if this can be done without exr

[last stream]

did you fire off a B-move at the end?

[clever wasp]

I believe so

76k off is super close

[jagged radish]

that's 1 more megahorn... just gotta dodge 1 more attack?

[clever wasp]

I can't remember if I queued a pin missile at the end

[clever wasp]

Uhh what gear should I use Barry's feather on

[cloud timber]

the one where stats matter the least so the bandanna

bc it's not difficult to get much better stats with 1* yellow feathers

[clever wasp]

Wasted like 50 feathers trying just to get 20 attack into a pin 😅

And still failed

[cloud timber]

sounds like you're rerolling gear that'd be useful for something else

like what i do is just get as many gears as possible and just roll good stats and nothing else and eventually i fill out every type with good stats

[sacred badger]

https://x.com/TALDYSJfJNLjkzP/status/1820863804781253073 ;O

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ラストのB技で急所外したけどなんとか100万超えた…ファイヤー単騎よりしんどかった…

Twitter · Aug 6, 2024, 4:45 PM

wow 1m hviola 😮

6 successful moves with HViola + bmove perhaps/ hrm

[clever wasp]

Would still probably require giving the tech role

[sacred flower]

1/5 SS Hilbert could only reach 595k, I guess I could not optimize much more

[lusty galleon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/960306675473084426/1270546687307415552/Screenshot_2024-08-06-19-58-27-590_com.dena.a12026418.jpg?ex=66b4184f&is=66b2c6cf&hm=7679061f38ff4d6f32e97fd2a397571a1fa42fcb6487a4b4b9a47771f32aba13&

a bit more...

[hidden fog]

You got this

[clever wasp]

Haven't been able to come close to this again

[long silo]

I am guessing his LC is CS2?

[clever wasp]

Gave him super powered 3

[long silo]

Hmmm then I guess it's in the gears now?

I rewatched the vid, and it seems Barry has SP3 too

[loud cedar]

i think ill be fine for steel 3v3?

[long silo]

More than fine

[loud cedar]

its rose gaming righy

rose colress pal marnie

or sc steven for pmun 10 iron head kek

[rare comet]

Best i could do with 1/5 non caked SS Hilbert, this stage is rough without investment

[loud cedar]

will sst red be the best for st

he gives gradual healing on tm

[pallid girder]

He still has the highest ST sync I believe, so maybe just find someone else to max his stat?

[cunning rock]

Yeah probably, But you probably need to sacrifice the third slot so that you can run a support that can max out attack along with a sync rusher.

And then just keep Electric Terrain up whenever you attempt to nuke with SST Red

[loud cedar]

redlax max move+elio tm

lt surge has attack tm and thunder wave

[brisk shale]

Kekwalk memes

[stoic crest]

What is the best option for this? I used hilbert with NC rosa and red lax and didn't even get 200k

Please ping me

[cunning rock]

You honestly don't need Redlax with SS Hilbert since his TM already gives him SEUN also he has TM MPR at 1/5. NC Blue could work be better if you have him

[stoic crest]

Oh yeah I have nc blue

So sync with Rosa instead for the sprint role?

As the first sync

[long silo]

Avoid syncing with Rosa

It's a lot of time wasted even with Sprint EXR

Unless you have HS on NC Blue and Adrenaline on Rosa?

[forest forge]

https://youtu.be/lX7Dn6cCMvM?si=u4-Lvl8ig_b8j6Dx

[rain copper]

it's still not worth it

[long silo]

Figures

[cunning rock]

If he's 3/5, you can grid him to have -2 def/sp def with he syncs to lessen SS Hilbert Metal Sound uses.

Then try to have SS Hilbert use Techno Blast to proc Rebuff on T1 and then use TM to ready SEUN while NC Blue sets up Hilbert's stats.

[rain copper]

for NC Blue, grid the "spdef debuff upon sync" tile. it helps shave you off a turn clicking Metal Sound

[stoic crest]

So I need blue at 3/5?

[rain copper]

1/5 is fine

[stoic crest]

So let me get this straight

Use NC blue and sync with him first?

And then use Nate to sync?

[rain copper]

Blue first sync, then *Hilbert

use his TM before the last 2 syncs

remember to use Techno Blast once, before NC Blue uses his TM, so you can fire a 2 SMUN powered Techno Blast at the end

[stoic crest]

I got 300k this time

I guess that's a bit better

Probably did something wrong but I'll take it

[long silo]

There should be some vids with the same comp you can look into

Maybe the pin has some of them

[pallid girder]

Did you paralyze opponent before using sing?

[stoic crest]

Uh I was supposed to?

I thought they wouldn't overlap

[rain copper]

check the pins for sing spam strat

you should expect us to recommend the same strat when you ask about future DC stages

[stoic crest]

Why is this faster?

Is it just a glitch or something? Because you can't have a paralyzed and sleeping opponent.

So it makes sense with it saying it is faster... but why?

[cunning rock]

Sing fails when they're already paralyzed. Meaning animation is skipped = More time to spam

[stoic crest]

Oh

Now that makes sense

So use discharge on Zapdos?

Before I use sing

[cunning rock]

Use Discharge on Zapdos > Pray that it immediately paralyzes > Sing

But this strat isn't perfect, you definitely need to use NC Blue's X Speed All+ or Rosa's Ode to Glory for the extra Speed boosts

Because you WILL run out of gauge if you keep spamming Sing without it

[stoic crest]

Thanks that makes sense

I didn't realize there was a new paralysis sing strategy

[cunning rock]

It's more nuanced since it's not tied to one specific unit for the strat to work but it's undoubtedly faster.

[thin wren]

elio can buff redlax's attack so you can still run nc blue

*sst red's

[thin wren]

no it's not a glitch

[normal parcel]

I used to sync 1st with Nolan for mega, but I scored a bit less (however Nolan wasn't ex, and had cs2)

I guess the score will be similar, personally I would mega if the score is almost the same, is one less crit that you have to land with nolan

[normal parcel]

Nolan + Guzma can break 600k if both SP3 and ex (but I think 3/5 h jasmine is needed)

[normal parcel]

For what I've tried, Rosa is fast enough to be able to spam sing with just 1 x speed+, melony needs both

[normal parcel]

It's faster because sing being 1 bar, can be spammed even without charging infliction/infliction freebie making it faster, but you need a fast team, sing isn't faster than thunder Wave by itself, is just that sing is the only spammable 1 gauge move (Aaron defend order should work too if you can manage to get it to +6 defenses fast)

[pallid girder]

I've seen Noland + Guzma just pair with og Hilbert scored 470k.
It seems w good skill gear and good roll it can certainly score up to 500k.

[normal parcel]

I guess Sonia may be good too if you get MPR

Tackle is fast can flinch and guaranteed defense crush 9 can help ramp up damage faster

She can also paralyze with spark

[normal parcel]

Wow, 5/5 scored less than 3/5

I guess people want 5/5 for the extra rebuff

[unborn vault]

Is this doable without Amphy?

[lapis stone]

probably not as high, best ive got is 330k switching amphy for redlax and 240k using yamper

for me the score is massively depending on when nolan lands flinches as well

[copper otter]

You can do Dana instead.

The problem is you won't have anyone to buff crit rate

[cloud timber]

failing to see how redlax can't just do the same thing but better

[golden tiger]

what if they dont have redlax

[misty forge]

Redlax 🤢

[unborn vault]

Well, Redlax is better I'd guess

[scenic grotto]

Just be me and get 3/5 RedLax whilst trying to get a different unit like Ingo

[normal parcel]

Nolan won't have crit, and you don't want to waste red tm on nolan

Ampy can max crit of both Nolan and Guzma, while topping up Nolan Attack

3/5 Ampy is definitely better for the Nolan + Guzma team

Regular Hilbert or Sonia can work too for full f2p, but Ampy is better

If you use Sonia or Hilbert just use 1st sync to mega, with Ampy I guess the best option is getting MPR on seun, syncing with her once and then spam fury cutters and guzma boosted syncs

Red is better for classic sync rush (unless they need +2 sp attack) since you only need to buff 1 unit

[unborn vault]

I thought that the redlax being better was comparing to dana...?

[golden tiger]

^

It looked like he was saying it as compared to Dana based off the message order

[pallid girder]

Here's a video of those two pairing w Redlax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB5I2rYEvpw

[normal parcel]

My bad, I though it was comparing it to jasmine

Yes Dana is pretty bad, no support ex also

[normal parcel]

She also has a reactive passive that buffs defense

I think the f2p team is Nolan + Guzman + Og Hilbert/Sonia

[half trail]

Hihi! Altough I've been playing the game for a long time, I took a break from it the past few months and was never good at it. I'd like to get 500k on the current damage challenge so I can get the tickets I'm missing for Nemona, but I could only get to 260k. My main dmg dealer is sc Barry with exr but he's 1/5. I'd like to know what I can do better, thanks in advance ❤️

[jagged radish]

remember to check the Doc in the pins where people post their runs, there is a f2p team there that almost reaches 500k using older units https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEaAudHNq-k .

[half trail]

Ic, ty! I'll check it out

[jagged radish]

yw!

[cursive linden]

oh, i'm fucked

[cursive linden]

What a fantastic hand-made thumbnail right there

[jagged radish]

agree, not only did he/she take the time to do and post a f2p team but went the extra mile by drawing a custom thumbnail instead of using whatever YT put automatically lol

[scenic grotto]

has 3/5 Steven

[vernal condor]

He

[dry whale]

Ah good enough, finally nailed it all but got a couple low rolls.

Honestly just happy I hit the 5 crits

[vernal condor]

2.2M
"Good enough"

Bro I didnt even get a quarter of that

[cloud timber]

you were right there

dana is not a real comparison

seun and nothing else

team toughen up to stall and make things worse

[acoustic chasm]

This stage made me wish NY Lillie had field EXR

[cursive linden]

How?????
Chase bleeds a lot

Don't tell me it's evasion rng

[normal parcel]

If you have 3/5 holiday jasmine you can replace Hilbert and score around 600k with a good run

[normal parcel]

Ny Lillie sucks for DC, team sync regen on base kit is atrocious for dc

[dry whale]

Yup , enough para/evasions in order to fit 3 super effective buff which also needs 1 mp refresh late into the run, 2 Kanto circles and of course hit 5 sync crits .

It's RNG on top of RNG.

I also want to point out, I had to take out Adrenaline from Chase because, it's the adrenaline or reset for para since you won't have enough for hostile environment

[civic island]

Have you tried going full dps witth him?

[long silo]

I think someone here reached 900k+ with him

[lethal siren]

Nope

[spiral crest]

Need 2 refresh from snorlax 1 cd snorlax and 3 cd of guzma

[long silo]

@lethal siren is this within your roster capability

[lethal siren]

No genesect

[long silo]

Hmmm I guess Redlax can substitute although I'm not sure how effective? But also depending on how the poster did it

[lethal siren]

No spe def low with red

No extra dmg

[long silo]

Oh okay ye. I was assuming it's the rebuff and thought to substitute SE

[lethal siren]

It's just SE with red acc to that team

[long silo]

I am guess you have no SC Ingo, but do you have NC Bianca?

Actually are you doing the hyper beam spam?

I would be suggesting those two for that strat (an SC Barry clear did that) but I haven't asked if that's you're already doing

[lethal siren]

No ingo, no Bianca

[willow flume]

This is boring

I stopped caring

Rewards arent good either

[acoustic chasm]

I forgot 💀 it's been forever since I used her
Was thinking about the evasion shenanigans

[real wind]

Well... I'll just stop with Bug DC Single

For Steel DC Multi, I'm confuse on how to finalized the main team

I kinda want to slot in SC Selene, tho I'm double-thinking between Redlax or Barry(Para-Spam) as the Support Slot

[long silo]

I would take Barry

[devout pelican]

What's my cope on this?

[civic island]

Worth a shot, with overpower and furious brain titles you can have powerful hyper beams
Do you have Iono?

[loud cedar]

aww i cant frame perfect get 1 mil tomorrow i have to watch a movie

[loud cedar]

thats the team i used to get 400k

[devout pelican]

How much harder would SC Barry hit at 3/5? No SC Ingo tho

[long silo]

I made it to 1m, but needed some skill gears and MPR resets

And I has to use SP3

[devout pelican]

What's the partners?

[long silo]

I have no Ingo and Bianca is not EXR, so I resorted to using 3/5 SC Steven and BP Barry

[devout pelican]

Fair enough

Guess my issue here is whether I can give him a piece of cake

[long silo]

If you at least have the units, I can share you how I did it

And yes mine is EXR

[devout pelican]

I suppose you use buddy move or it's sync spam?

[long silo]

4 Sync Spam then buddy move at the end

All need to have SEUN

And the buddy move needs high PMUN too

[devout pelican]

Guess I will give it a try later. Thanks for the suggestion

[long silo]

I suppose it should be okay for me to post this

https://youtu.be/qNiQ-VDEOBM?si=D2nbf0VlAi8Qvl3O

[lethal siren]

No Iono

[golden tiger]

Ehh i have no idea how ppl get 2.2M. Lmao

[devout pelican]

Good para proc helps

[inland urchin]

Do both have SP3 in this?

[golden tiger]

Yeah its prob that to squeeze out another sync i guess

[devout pelican]

Pretty much. One or two para proc can buy a lot of precious seconds

[golden tiger]

Think this is my peak unless I want to endure more rng

[devout pelican]

DC is definitely more chill unless you don't have the pairs to score 1m

At least you don't need to worry about enemy hitting back hard. Cough, HSE, cough

[golden tiger]

yeah dc is like

hit target

maybe scrape a bit more pts

finished

[normal parcel]

Wanted to get more than 1.3m but mpr2 and lack of soften up is a disgusting combo

Now I remember why I always refused to candy my SS Hilbert

I hate 80% crit nukers

[long silo]

It was a fact that I only learned semi-recently

My life is worse after that

[normal parcel]

I mean if I get MPR I miss the crits if I get the crits I miss mpr

[long silo]

I just know Soften Up is a thing but I didn't question it and just kept grabbing it off grid

[long silo]

Me when I was doing my SC Barry clear. I got to missing the 4th sync crit twice

[golden tiger]

I'm just used to disappointment

So i just keep going until mp refresh and crit happen

and then call it a day

[long silo]

It was fun when RNG finally lined up tho

Also this is not DC but semi related to the discussion

[normal parcel]

I mean I'm so biased by sure crit sync that I had 6ex bugsy, and I tend to not candy units if 3/5 only gives the nuke and not a guaranteed crit one

[long silo]

But I'll share something

[golden tiger]

when RNG lines up it surprises me, because I expect the worst lol

Even if ive been grinding for a long time or something

[long silo]

This was because I missed the crit

[golden tiger]

[normal parcel]

Ideal Hilbert run would want 2 MPR and 4 crits

[long silo]

That's what my SC Barry needed

[normal parcel]

I mean I've got over 1m probably not worth wasting time to squeeze few extra tickets

Expecially with gauntlet up

[civic island]

Zone most likely

[golden tiger]

Yeah unfortunately i have no big zoners

Bug*

[normal parcel]

The only thing that made me candy Hilbert, besides the fact that bug st would have been the only SC that I couldn't 1m so far is that at least has ripple effect 9 on metal sound, and having an AOE -2 sdef debuffer is nice

[thin wren]

batmanbnb got 2.2 mil with chase comp

it's not zone

[normal parcel]

Does chase need even more RNG?

[thin wren]

no

[civic island]

Yeah that's a good omni boost

[thin wren]

batman's hilbert was also only 3/5

[normal parcel]

Yes but I mean other than the crits and the mpr, you need also the dodges?

[golden tiger]

he probably squeezes 4 syncs out unless every sync does like 600k

which again

idrk how

bc I'm already reducing speed and sp def to -6 before i sync with hilbert for the first time

with ses and everything

[civic island]

That's really nice
So top aren't on the line w that
2.2M with 3/5 is likely they can get one extra rebuff and 10% flat boost at least

[pallid girder]

Yes Chase generally need MORE rng than NCBlue, bc the annoying healing after getting hit passive.

[golden tiger]

im not willing to grind out just for that

1.6m is good for me

[pallid girder]

However I believe his best score can outdmg NCBlue's best if under the same circumstance

[civic island]

Sprint is sprint after all

And evasion is so good

[golden tiger]

double edged sword some might say

just bc of the healing passive

[civic island]

Sure, but you can reroll and take the risk

Over and over, not funny for sure

[golden tiger]

Ill leave that to the leaderboard grinders 😅

[civic island]

But if you're fine w what you get

Yeah I do few runs the first day then nothing, LG is up

[normal parcel]

The problem is that the NC blue clear is already RNG hell just because of Hilbert alone (MPR 2 and 80% crit) it you use chase you add even more RNG to the equation

The ceiling will be higher with chase, but unless you are a lucky grimsley, it will probably cost your mental sanity

[sacred badger]

hrm whose the next in the choping board

oh Solgaleo eh. interesting.

[pallid girder]

At least Solgaleo's setup only takes 2 TM.

[sacred badger]

yeah

i'm thinking of doing solgaleo+redlax+colress

OR

Redlax + SC Selene + Colress o.o

[civic island]

Bcs you're already using him, try Colress Red scSelene

[fluid anvil]

Chase RNG isnt that bad. Evasion and Sprint always make up for his healing passive.
Average/a bit above average Chase rng = equal to NC Blue
good Chase RNG = above Blue
godlike Chase RNG = top 1-2 rank on the leaderboard

[sacred badger]

colress isn't ex'd so...

Hrm

[teal harness]

solgaleo is a good option for steel challenge? if so, I was thinking on colress + solgaleo + a support/sprint pair

[sacred badger]

but i guess i'll ex him hrm

[teal harness]

doesnt matter I guess, you're just spamming tw with him after 3 screeches

[devout pelican]

I assume OG Gloria should be able to ace next DC

[sacred badger]

she's on the water with steven i think .-.?

Stevenn can do Haymaker + Sure crit on his TM

oh and Tough Sync 3

[pallid girder]

Gloria has innate sync multiplier. She's a tech - striker in disguise.

[sacred badger]

Hmm i suppose.

4/5 for haymakeer though orz

5/5 gloria havers will have a nice field day then mmhmm

[pallid girder]

Still I'm betting on Poppy be the top 1. She has Twave to spam so her 2 teammates can be both dedicated to boost her dmg.

[unborn otter]

I have 2/5 gloria and I might just 4-5/5 her

or maybe solgaleo 3/5 no exr sc selene can get 1m

[sacred badger]

oh same.

i'll try them all

[unborn otter]

my most invested steel type pair is 3/5 sc selene

only limited 3/5 steel pair

[sacred badger]

hrm

yeah i guess imma do solgaleo

i could 3/5 poppy but eh

[fluid anvil]

Rose will be #1 IMHO.
and 5/5 OG Gloria might be #2

[sacred badger]

actually yeah, i feel like poppy might take the cake here hmm

[fluid anvil]

or maybe Steel Selene #1, idk

[sacred badger]

yeah it'll depend on tomoorrow xd

everyone will be cooking

[unborn otter]

I will be stealing

[fluid anvil]

Rose has extend range, big sync, max move finisher
Steel Selene has good sync and her own zone
Poppy has TWave spam

[vernal condor]

Rose is #1, AoE max move is wild

Selene might be 2nd because she gets her own zone

[fluid anvil]

it will probably be at 3-3.5M

[safe prawn]

But AoE max move is necessary to activate the +50% on sync

So has to be used mid game

My bet is going on poppy

That B move will be really strong with a couple of sync buffs

[vernal condor]

You can use it before your last sync, so you have max power on the max move and SEUN last sync

You dont want it too early because the animation from steel DF is slow

[safe prawn]

This grid is too good

And requires only 4/5 rose

[vernal condor]

DC9 is too slow I think

[unborn otter]

only?

i have 1/5

[safe prawn]

It depends on the team

Real problem with rose is gonna be speed for sing spam

I can see Barry being better than Melony

[pallid girder]

It might be worth it though. His regular move will have score.

[safe prawn]

But this means no zone/scsteven

[safe prawn]

If ScSteven is on the team, pick fb instead

[vernal condor]

If you use Barry then you might as well use Colress for aoe def drops

[safe prawn]

And also, ExR V thorton going to town

Paralysis and zone on sync

[pallid girder]

Yes that's the reason I think Poppy might score higher.
She can recruit zone + rebuff + seun

[rain copper]

Would be funny if V Thorton is able to break 1mil alone

[safe prawn]

What team where you thinking? ScSteven + Vthorton?

Thorton is the only supp with zone rn

[long silo]

I'm actually excited for Steel 3v1

Not because I have the tools for it

But I want to see Poppy havers how much dmg their Gigaton Hammer does

[normal parcel]

Yes but Hilbert RNG is already atrocious, adding even 1% extra RNG is even worse, unless you can trade chase not so bad RNG with Hilbert atrocious RNG and still score a bit more with evasion luck despite getting bad MPR/crit luck

[normal parcel]

Depends how slow gigaton hammer is, people didn't really used Nate/Marnie b moves during the run because they where pretty slow, however probably she will shine in 3v3 because her sync is AOE and you can still gigaton hammer for the finisher (but rose/Gloria will probably be better regardless)

Good thing about poppy is that she has paralysis and at 3/5 could para spam

So you could pair her with a proper nuker

3v1 steel should be pretty kind with f2p since corless and kimono grimsley are great f2p options

Not even sure who will be optimal for 3v1, p Marnie?

[long silo]

I think I saw some clears spamming Marnie B move and got high score

But we'll see

[long silo]

I honestly don't know lol. Although we might cook with Colress

[narrow sluice]

Triple Steel is gonna be painful for me.

[normal parcel]

Personally I used some Marnie b moves, but not every sync cycle

I think I used 2 + the finisher

[cunning rock]

Watch Colress reaching 1M against 3v3 because -2 Acc on every sync means a dodge chain of the century

[normal parcel]

Negative accuracy kinda sucks compard to evasion

-6 equals to +3 evasion

However on paper, even -1 can let you dodge every single move (in theory)

[narrow sluice]

[normal parcel]

I think solgaleo should get 1m

His sync isn't bad

His setup is fast

[long silo]

Would actually be a good way to gauge 3v1

[cunning rock]

At least it has Haymaker, which is nice.

[long silo]

He can get Zone, SEUN, and Rebuff

[pallid girder]

Ppl use Marnie's B move bc they pair her and sync spam with SS Cyrus.
It's a 2 bar spam without any guaranteed gauge back, so using Marnie's B move every sync helps gauge .

[cunning rock]

Colress definitely needs Hilbert 3/5 to complete his setup singlehandedly

[long silo]

Wait is Colress SpAtk

[normal parcel]

Corless sync is physical

[long silo]

Oh okay

[fluid anvil]

Colress will easily get 1M+ in 3v3 Steel

[long silo]

I am not familiar with Hilbert so my first assumption was about his SpDef debuff

[long silo]

If he can then a lot of people will have easier time on 3v1

[normal parcel]

Solgaleo should score better, AOE sync is stronger

[long silo]

He may? But 1m Colress on 3v3 is significant for 3v1 eventually

[normal parcel]

3v1 has less speed

[fluid anvil]

its not that big of a difference
Like Lucas got 1.7M in 3v3 Dragon

[normal parcel]

Corless should have an easier time getting 1m in 3v1

[long silo]

Yes, but people are not optimistic with Steel as a whole on previous discussion

So having Colress being able to do it will be huge for a lot of people

[normal parcel]

Depends how much Lucas can score in 3v1

[long silo]

Would it be any different

The 1.7m clear is 6 syncs with NC Blue/Melony/Lucas

[pallid girder]

Steel? Not optimistic? It's not even our worst type...

[long silo]

And now with Lucas getting Support EXR, he will surpass that

[normal parcel]

I mean corless isn't Lucas, yes it has para spam, but bad self sufficiency and para spam is slower than sing spam

[long silo]

Ah that's what you meant

[pallid girder]

He also can't set his own zone

[long silo]

With him being able to para spam, he is free to take both zone and SEUN

So at least there's a merit to that

[normal parcel]

Is like saying that 3/5 NC hop can easily score 1m in 3v3

Yes it can, but scores more in single target

Overall single target is harder than AOE, but for single target units AOE doesn't help

[fluid anvil]

well yes Lucas is better.
but he stil got 6 syncs in 3v3 - I'm not sure he will get 7 syncs with same team in 3v1 (though this is because that clear used his TMs in-between syncs to fish for SEUNs)

[normal parcel]

Also depends how annoying the stage is

[fluid anvil]

its basically a question of if 3v1 will give you + 1 sync vs 3v3. Its not guaranteed (or maybe even likely) that it will

[long silo]

Oh. My argument only assumes people want 1m at the bare minimum, so I was only saying if Colress can reach 1m in 3v3 then people are definitely set on 3v1

[normal parcel]

The point is that Lucas is optimal for single target, but not optimal for AOE

Yes maybe it can score similar, but Nate scores much more

[long silo]

Oh I am not questioning that at all

My only focus is if the said ST unit reaches 1m in AoE, then people no longer have to worry about the future ST content

[fluid anvil]

I just meant that Colress will get 1M in both 3v3 and 3v1. Number of syncs may be the same too. We'll see

[narrow sluice]

Just realized that Pal Marnie has Team Sharp Entry 1 naturally. Can skip on Sharp Entry 1 on Solgaleo then.

[long silo]

Yes exactly that

[normal parcel]

Ah that's for sure

My point was that if an unit can reach 1m st, it doesn't means it can do it AOE too

[long silo]

Ye it's almost impossible lol

The Lucas one is a godsend for me. I was cooked in AoE until I saw the 1.7m clear

[normal parcel]

I think corless could reach 1m in st, not sure if it can do it aoe

[long silo]

How different is the enemy behavior in 3v1 and 3v3 actually

Since in both cases the move gauge bar is shared right

On the enemy side at least

[normal parcel]

Yes but 3v3 has more speed

[long silo]

Ah I see

[normal parcel]

Because they have the speed of 3 units

3v1 has the speed of only one unit

However isn't exactly triple speed

Plus in 3v3 if you want to do full paralysis shenanigans you have to aoe paralyze

[long silo]

Then that opens the question if 6 syncs is enough

[normal parcel]

Ground AOE would be kinda dire for f2p, Courtney barely gets 1m single target, and there aren't other f2p alternatives, since hapu is terrible

[hollow whale]

And Me whose hardware can only 4 sync lol

[normal parcel]

I mean Courtney will still score much more than bug f2p

[normal parcel]

Your hardware can't be worse than mine

[fluid anvil]

by the time 3v3 Ground hits - we will have the new and upgraded Ultimate Garchomp 2.0 from anni

[normal parcel]

That won't be f2p, if you go premium ground AOE has options, I was talking about f2p

[long silo]

That Courtney one was suffering

[golden tiger]

Does your hardware crash the game at trainer lodge

Mine does sometimes now

[fluid anvil]

Technically Garchomp was given out free at least twice
and the upgrade might be eventually farmable for free (if its like EX role cakes)
But we'll see

I meant it was an option on a free champion scout*

[normal parcel]

Nope but I get like single digit fps and some missing graphics here and there

[normal parcel]

Yes but garchomp really wants 5/5 to shine, and even on the free champion banner she wasn't really the bestest option

Even redlax was given for free (if you chose it) and 1/5 is generally enough for him

[fluid anvil]

3/5 is fine for Chomp after the Masters Day grid (it has all the damage), 5/5 is extra/QoL stuff
the "upgrades" might completely change their base kits (OG Steven certainly needs it), but thats just speculation

[normal parcel]

Doesn't she wants 5/5 for her sand stuffs?

[acoustic chasm]

Yes

[fluid anvil]

4/5 for Dustkicker passive, but you have Bertha (f2p), Ingo etc. for sand.
Haymaker and SDE5 isnt sand-related too

[dry whale]

It's 5 syncs with Hilbert.

Getting the 5th sync is not the problem, its being able to also buff the last 3 meaning you need an MP refresh late into the run and not to mention enough paralysis/dodge luck to have enough time to do it all and activate Kanto circle twice. Then you need the 5 crits.

Honestly the crits were the problem most of the time.

[fluid anvil]

why Chase Kanto circle twice ?
if its extended I always use it only once

[inland urchin]

ok cool, guess i'll be happy with my 500k clear with that setup LOL, both DPS don't have SP3 for me

[long silo]

TIL Venom Drench Twofer spam is unreliable

[dry whale]

You will run out even with extended and miss the last sync and the follow-up.

If you Circle anywhere over the 1:20 mark your going to have to reapply it. For Context Hilbert's first sync can happen anywhere from 1:4X to 1:2X. I mostly got it around the 1:30-1:35 range

[fluid anvil]

I usually do it right before 4-th sync and then it lasts to the end and boosts syncs 4-7 (as well as the last finisher move)

[golden tiger]

Damn that's crazy

[dry whale]

If I'm reading you correctly, you only nuke 3 times in circle.

[fluid anvil]

4 times
syncs 1-2 are supports
sync 3 - without circle
syncs 4-7 - with circle

[dry whale]

That's what I said only 3 nukes are with circle

[fluid anvil]

4, 5, 6, 7 - 4 syncs ?

Or do you have 6 syncs total here?
I meant in general - when I use Chase + Melony, its usually 7 syncs total and the last 4 get Circle

[dry whale]

Wait , I am reading this wrong

[golden tiger]

Do you techno blast just once?

[dry whale]

Yes of course.

[golden tiger]

Guess I'm doing it all wrong then lol did it multiple times for cakewalk

[dry whale]

I'm at 3/5 no Cakewalk

[golden tiger]

Well i barely got 4 in

[dry whale]

No it's 5 Hilbert syncs for me, I was reading you wrong.

[pastel bone]

@icy pendant you have a vid for this bug DC?

I just 3/5ed my SSHilbert

[icy pendant]

Not yet, my only option is 3/5 EXR SC Barry and I haven’t bothered to learn the route for it so I’m at a very bad 600k

[random cedar]

Is Guzma the best f2p bet?

[pastel bone]

yeah im at 63k

[pastel bone]

anyone have a team though with sshilbert and winter viola for the dc challenge?

[pastel bone]

[tribal flax]

good but haven invest hilbert, any good replacement?

[normal parcel]

Ok 3/5 chase seems to be an improvement over 3/5 NC blue

I don't think it really adds RNG (but I guess with good RNG you can land an extra sync

Without much dodges I still can sync 4 times with Hilbert (the same as NC blue) but I can land 2 techno blasts at the end

[hushed epoch]

Boy finally some good rng

[normal parcel]

I think only invested SC Barry can get 1m besides invested SS Hilbert (and I think is very hard too)

I saw someone with 5/5 alder getting like 900k

[normal parcel]

Guzma + Nolan

[normal parcel]

What grid chase uses for 7 syncs?

[jagged radish]

idk, i didnt make it, just linked it to someone who seemed to want a f2p team, i used 3/5 exr barry for almost 1.1m points

again, check the doc in the pins if u want more info on teams.

[normal parcel]

Ah wait you meant regula Hilbert, then invested Sonia should work

[jagged radish]

that people from here have submited runs for,

[fluid anvil]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/27900/2500?s=3&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=15010101&g=AAECAwQFDA0PEhUWGRodLC4xMw&x=true

[civic island]

Yeah, by far
Twave, debuffs, always crit, and 5/5 got access to pmuns stacking. A finisher Gigaton Hammer will be crazy strong

But I feel like vTorthon can play a major role as side unit, for those who have him EXR
Compress aoe para, steel zone and suport cake
So like vThorton, sing spammer, and a big steel nuker

[lusty galleon]

I think you clicked the wrong thread #1009564564821639379

[safe prawn]

There’s so much going on between lg, dc and br

[lusty galleon]

yeah

[icy pendant]

but what if area 1 is rock 3v3

[lapis yarrow]

So what are gonna be the best team comps for tomorrow?

[frail fulcrum]

So are there any non-ss hilbert 1 mil setups?

I may be willing to exr and candy holiday viola. Maybe

Otherwise i only have guzma, noland, and alder maxed out. I have a 1/5 SC Ingo if that can do anything

Regular Viola too, but i doubt shes able to do much

[pallid girder]

3/5 SC Ingo, 3/5 HViola and 3/5 SC Barry all made it.

[frail fulcrum]

This might be the first one i have to take the L on. Sucks

Ive gotten at least 1* leon on everythin

[latent plover]

https://youtu.be/9U7HgKzJxSM

Not best score I know, but this was done in a single attempt so eh

[copper otter]

For steel weak, i'm thinking of just using Summer Tate/Melony/Chase

I know it's 3v3. But like.... funni doom desire 🙂

[safe prawn]

Doom desire is funni

Getting points is more funni

[simple saddle]

I always thought Doom Desire was this super awesome move as a kid, but no. It’s just a steel type Future Sight.

[sacred badger]

whoa. alder gamin?

oh jeez. 5/5 too

[cosmic wing]

Some old Pokémon signature move are hit or miss, but I would say around Gen 4 we started to see most signature move on the good side

Alder sweep

[sacred badger]

1mil + 809 lulz

[fluid anvil]

how is that possible in 1v3 ? especially without Twave/sing spammer
Alder syncs shouldnt be doing anywhere near that much damage against 1 enemy, even with Unova circle

[sacred badger]

yeah

i'm asking what their meethod was

[fluid anvil]

unless it was just hyperbeam spam ? lol

[sacred badger]

3/5 NC bianca means, extended unova circle + sync accel + sync burst

trainner sync redemption raather than sync burst

[cloud timber]

alder is def using a bunch of hyper beams

[loud cedar]

barry better than colress for supp ex maybe?

[long silo]

Yes

[loud cedar]

cope ass gears

[feral hamlet]

Oh shoot, this is over today. How to get more than 500k with 2/5 Hilbert?

[lusty galleon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/960306675473084426/1271297131344302132/Screenshot_2024-08-08-21-40-39-593_com.dena.a12026418.jpg?ex=66b6d337&is=66b581b7&hm=eac8f6f40a0f52add186eb3f802649a5ab5ef6abe5296a592ce32c4d3810bba3&

we're so back

[feral hamlet]

Just doesn't do damage

[sacred badger]

i mean, all his nuke tools are 3/5 ;9

[feral hamlet]

He's probably still the best I've got. My 3/5 Alder won't do much better if 5/5 could barely do it

It's hopeless...

[lusty galleon]

do yo have NC Bianca?

[sacred badger]

wait a sec... does your target have a rebuff?

[feral hamlet]

Yes ofc

[sacred badger]

oh wait, nvm, you're attacking with just his technoblast

+sync

[feral hamlet]

No

Apparently the best unit in the game so I'll make sure I have enough to pity for her next rerun

[lusty galleon]

she's saved me lately lol

[pallid girder]

You should check Guzma + Noland , which score more than what you get.

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[feral hamlet]

I won't be able to reach even that meager score which is less than my current top score

[pallid girder]

Didnt notice your best is 490k.
However ig switch to fury cutter DPS instead of sing/twave/sspore spam might actually score you more.

[feral hamlet]

I'm not sure how that one works. 45 seconds left and I had 50k damage

I guess it's just a bust. Bug type single target really was the worst so far. SS Hilbert 3/5+ or one of the other Bug fair scouts required for even 500k...

[cloud timber]

1/5 hilbert has been proven to break 500k

[feral hamlet]

perhaps someone did it once, but I doubt many could repeat it

[rotund sierra]

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[iron gulch]

500k is possible with it...

Hmmm intensifies

[feral hamlet]

Dang. Guess you need Noland EX for that. But I'm not EXing him any time soon

[rotund sierra]

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[rose basalt]

i am ready

selene worth the candy

[cosmic wing]

I already candy her for LG when she debut

I was originally thinking Rose would be the best for 3v3 steel, but since mine is only 1/5, I think I will use my 3/5 Selene instead

[sacred badger]

well depends on like.... if Solgaleo max70, steven 2/5, and maybe poppy 2/5 is not enough.

orr even, colress EX max nuke

I am gonna wait for Raihan enjoyers in here though.

[cosmic wing]

Oh wait, I have 4/5 Raihan because of Mix Scout

[sacred badger]

Weather Warrior 3 ehh

but Cakewalk at 5/5 hrrm

[pallid girder]

Raihan needs 5/5 for cakewalk; otherwise you're stuck with Sand Blaster 5 and Weathered Warrior 3.

[rose basalt]

ok cool but selens will make steel weak sinnoh cs alot easier

as well

[sacred badger]

you could try, but raihan needs weather which can be tough 😭
that DoT is gonna eat time tbh

[rose basalt]

cant wait to see a sogaleo clear

if its possible

[loud cedar]

im definitely trying out solgaleo and steven

steven was my first 3/5

…limited? is he even limited

[rose basalt]

hes pokefair

[loud cedar]

ah that

so 2 attack tms, red max move for +2, tm for crit in sync, red should max out crit too…

then colress for para/def down

rose might be better but ill be damned if i dont use steven atleast once

[cosmic wing]

3v3 Steel shouldn't be too hard, the problem is that most steel pairs needed the high investment for nuke or damage

[sacred badger]

his TM Refresh == Sure Crit Sync :o.... right?

[pallid girder]

He's free select once or twice as well
And ppl speculate he'd be in the sep new daily scout

[sacred badger]

man, steven wouldd really lovee it to have Support EXR :x

[cosmic wing]

Not speculation, I think we have already see most year 1 unit are there in the datamine, we just don't know the full list

[sacred badger]

So i could do Steven + Colress + Any Steel Zone user

[cosmic wing]

I think Steven would only do slightly better than Solgaleo

I waiting for someone to post their 5/5 Gloria clear

[cloud timber]

i'll be using 4/5 gloria lol

[cosmic wing]

Gloria got the nuke, but I am not putting my Candy on her lol

[cloud timber]

though 4/5 steven has aoe debuffs on sync and i have spare candies

but i'm not candying gloria to 5/5

and i have no 3/5 colress

[cosmic wing]

Get lucky on Unova ticket than

[cloud timber]

i did not

only got 20 rn

rolled for him a month ago

[loud cedar]

oh right i have

pal marnie

is zone better than seun?

[cosmic wing]

Steven nuke are too low compared to other PF. I am feel like the score would just mainly be dominant by Rose, Poppy, and SC Selene. 5/5 Gloria and Raihan could get high score too, but their investments are too high

[cloud timber]

solgaleo is self-sufficient with setup and has a vastly higher bp sync

def can be outperforming steven

[cosmic wing]

Solgaleo would be the go to F2P clear unless people don't have it's PB

[loud cedar]

wait

what did the pb change

…

[pallid girder]

Dmg boost wise they have the same number, but SEUN is only one time while zone boost dmg as long as it lasts.

[civic island]

Raihan TM tsking 20s

[cloud timber]

haymaker

[cosmic wing]

Solgaleo: Haymaker, BOGO 9 TM, Critical eye TM and Furious Brain

I am 99% sure you would need Solgaleo pb for a F2P high score. Without it's pb the score would be quite low I think

[cloud timber]

i actually have to set up a solgaleo team bc he might be better than gloria too lmao

[cosmic wing]

Solgaleo should be better until you get a high move copies of Gloria

[loud cedar]

oh no LOL

[cloud timber]

i got 4/5 but she's not worth upgrading to 5/5

[loud cedar]

how did i not

[cosmic wing]

rip

[loud cedar]

did the ex come with the pb?

[pallid girder]

I don't think he can reach 1M with pure f2p team tho. Only 2x sync + no free steel zone.

[cosmic wing]

Did you play during Alola VA event?

[loud cedar]

i dont know 😭 obviously i didnt since no pb

[cosmic wing]

Yeah, we are mainly talking about F2P options, PB Solgaleo would be their only option

[cosmic wing]

I think 4/5 Gloria would still do better than Solgaleo right? You won't have rebuff but Haymaker Gloria still does more sync damage

[civic island]

Nah not happening as long as you have access to Haymaker

[cloud timber]

well my gloria team was bad but i realized redlax elio would work

[rain copper]

well he is literally in the banner image

[pallid girder]

I mean some tech nuker can reach 1M even in 3v3, so Colress or Alola Grimsley aren't off the table.

[loud cedar]

alola grims 1 mil would be fantastic

[civic island]

It should happen, eventually
Not as f2p option ofc

[dire spade]

This is the most I can do in the current DC

My 5/5 Gloria is ready for some fun, I guess

[thin wren]

22 minutes left

I think either poppy or rose with vthorton are gonna be the strongest. Poppy hasn't got much of a nuke but she can afford zoner + sc Steven

[scarlet ivy]

Nah, this DC is Rose or bust

Rose dealing damage to three units essentially makes his DPS equal to Poppy except she has to juggle lol

• his nuke is stronger + he also has his max move

[lusty galleon]

me just betting on Gloria....

[loud cedar]

with +6 energy from 3/5 rose he can grid max super prep

but i dont have the orbs

so either i give up furious brawn to have 3 syncs with seun orr stick with furious brawn

[thin wren]

poooy can t wave spam on her own tho

so she can afford more enablers

[scarlet ivy]

Gloria might also make some waves

[lusty galleon]

Gloria being the only strike with innate

[thin wren]

Poppy is gonna be second best at least imo

[scarlet ivy]

because of rebuff + post-sync advantage

[lusty galleon]

if I had VThorton EX R...

I'd just put Melony there

[cosmic wing]

Yup, we are definitely seeing some high copies Gloria play

[thin wren]

is field the only role missing an unit with inate?

[loud cedar]

oh right rose has tech exr too

we are so broke

[lusty galleon]

so I could get 4 sync stacked up with a paralyzed enemy

but since I don't have him at that move level nor wish to make him EX R...

[thin wren]

how many daily tickets

[loud cedar]

i have 4 lmao

[thin wren]

what did you spend your daily tickets on

[loud cedar]

i think it was sprint

for ss wally

[lusty galleon]

this will be my team

[loud cedar]

i can get the role by tomorrow

since my rally has 15 vouchers left

or today actually, at reset

but is it worth the ex role…

[thin wren]

do I go sc Steven rose and bp barry?I have no steel zoner

[loud cedar]

thats what im planning to use too

but i have pal marnie, so colress pal marnie rose?

[thin wren]

1 minute

[thin wren]

bp barry over colress

support sync

gl ya all

[cloud timber]

free

[frail owl]

Solgaleo

[scarlet ivy]

@cloud timber hello

Ill beat you in a bit

just

let me not get shit RNG

[cloud timber]

sup

[civic island]

First attempt

[lusty galleon]

ready for my first attempt?

[sacred badger]

post ;-;

[sacred badger]

weww

screw support EX eh

[lusty galleon]

the small "win"
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/881833427643531264/1271349423003406416/Screenshot_2024-08-09-01-08-29-832_com.dena.a12026418.jpg?ex=66b703ea&is=66b5b26a&hm=40e6f9e109823a6575b4c150d56b426a20c40213d1818ac009c2b3a384e917f7&

[paper anchor]

Can definitely take this further

[analog barn]

Not bad for first try

[sweet grail]

Wow

Steel damage challenge

Aka Prestige event 2.0

You know i am so calling it that

[long silo]

Lmao the last sync move did not crit against Shauna

[sweet grail]

Explain

Does selene sync at any point?

[crude sandal]

I've been so busy the past 3 DC, damn man

[narrow sluice]

Not bad for a first try. Missed a couple crits but yeah

[paper anchor]

What is melony doing here ?

[narrow sluice]

And of course Level 140. Forgot to put him to 150

[lusty galleon]

[cloud tinsel]

sing spam

[lusty galleon]

she syncs first, and that's it lol