Damage Challenge

[sacred badger]

her debuffing might take too long hrm

at least the static shock 9 is nice though

[pallid girder]

If people have him but no SS Hilbert they should try him.
At least trap gives score so if someone scores 900K from SC Ingo's sync, the extra score from trap might actually bump it into 1M.

[rain copper]

Nah just use Guzma

[craggy pond]

does the akari + nc blue/melony core use double supp sync

or just one supp sync into akari syncs?

[thin wren]

hlo

bug st today

[thin wren]

Yeh

[craggy pond]

oh so i cant swap melony for nc rosa then since her sync will get rid of sing

i was wondering since nc rosa is faster plus she'll get a small boost to her final move from master passive

but if so then ill run melony i suppose

[thin wren]

one of the reasons why rosa is generally worse

[craggy pond]

neat ok then

big big improvement over my ~1.1 mil initial run with barry / red

[sacred badger]

dayum 5/5 😮

[craggy pond]

dark hse banner took me a long time to get sscyrus XD

in the end i finished pity for 5/5 akari

though you only need 4/5 for soften up, if you want her optimal DC grid you need 5/5 for +10E i believe

to get Haymaker + Soften Up + Zone multiplier + Fierce Entry all at once

[long silo]

Yep that's true

[cloud timber]

had soften up the past couple dcs and now i have to remember that crits are normally capped at 80%

[sacred badger]

damn 980k hrm

[vernal condor]

[loud cedar]

barry sc steven better maybe?

[cloud timber]

good enough

[civic island]

And missed 2 sync crit

[loud cedar]

6 syncs

can probably break 400k with better gear

[sacred badger]

needs 3 of Hilbert's TMs

aaight back to LG

[faint quiver]

Curiously waiting for one focused on Ingo.

[real wind]

First Attempt

[young tartan]

You know what? Good enough

[forest forge]

https://youtu.be/lX7Dn6cCMvM?si=0ObDmNzePmMF7urz

[bold pilot]

Yeah, this is the way to go

[dusty solar]

Nice

[hidden fog]

Huh? We're back to triple bug?

[cursive saddle]

single bug

[bold pilot]

Nah just single. Hilbert is just built different

[hidden fog]

Oh single bug

SSHilbert was quite good too for Triple Bug

He really is built different

[cunning rock]

Probably the best I can get for 1/5 Hilbert

[cunning rock]

Him getting Strike EXR really saved him

[hidden fog]

It really did

[dusty solar]

Glad I got 5/5 Hilbert through dailies lol

The MVP

Wish his sync changed types though

[scenic grotto]

Agreeed

[cunning rock]

He'd be a Master Fair at that point.

[lethal siren]

Have no bug for single
Only strikers

[cunning rock]

We have access to Viola

[lethal siren]

Is she gud?

[dusty solar]

Dragon/Ground HSE is in September, right?

[cunning rock]

Her Tech condition being Trap is awful because Trap adds the extra time

[lethal siren]

Yea

[lethal siren]

Yep

[dusty solar]

Just checking to see if I have time to 3/5 Wally before it starts ^^’

[safe prawn]

Good morning peeps

[dusty solar]

Looks like I’ll have abt 1200 tix by then

[safe prawn]

If I could only have 2 paralysis I’d squeeze an additional sync in

[eternal pecan]

Is 1 mil possible with SC Barry

[craggy pond]

time to try 1/5 EXR SSHilbert haha

[dusty solar]

Why did you EXR him at 1/5?

[craggy pond]

i have very few limited pairs

so i can EXR everyone

[dusty solar]

Mmm

[rose basalt]

whats your grid and lucky skills for blue and hilbert?

[dusty solar]

I see

[craggy pond]

anyway BR useful

[sacred badger]

wtf? 2mil? o_o?

[craggy pond]

i wonder if DC will finally have me crack on candying some of my 1/5 pairs... i have a big candy stockpile

[sacred badger]

did you get like 4 TM uses or something?

[safe prawn]

Blue is adrenaline1 but head start is alright. Only useful
Nodes are he2 on discharge and the def/spdef down on sync

[sullen zephyr]

Ok imma dip

[cursive mauve]

I’m so done

[safe prawn]

Hilbert is a little invested

SP3

[rose basalt]

hmm what about 3/5

[craggy pond]

hm what would be better for SSHilbert the NC Blue core for faster setup or an SC Ingo core for zone

[safe prawn]

Just drop the speed stuff

[dusty solar]

RIP Hilbert’s Aim tile

[lethal siren]

I need 500k dmg for blue alakazam

[craggy pond]

and you can save SEUN with NC Blue

[dusty solar]

SC Ingo

[long silo]

Ooh how did you do this

[safe prawn]

Is a 20% tile and is in the middle of useless stuff, since is ST my route goes through kekwalk

[long silo]

This looks promising

[craggy pond]

do we bother with metal sound?

[cloud timber]

ofc you do

[dusty solar]

yes

[safe prawn]

We always bother with metal sound

[craggy pond]

oh right and it's single target anyway

[safe prawn]

Imma go back to grind lg, I’ll come back in a few hours when someone comes up with a strategy to go 2.5 and beyond

[craggy pond]

oh hey it's vs Cheren didn't realise

[safe prawn]

I just need 5 tickets to grab dc blue

[dusty solar]

Noted for when we get Bug in Super Sparring. X)

[safe prawn]

[safe prawn]

It depends if it’s st or multi target bc multi target setup speed drops is a mess

[dusty solar]

my king SC Steven has you covered

[safe prawn]

I’d not use ScSteven with a special dps

[dusty solar]

Hope he gets Support EX. Feels unlikely

[rose basalt]

now comes the annoying part, rolling for gear skills

[safe prawn]

He gets sprint imo

[dusty solar]

Seems random atp, I used to think it was predictable but Lucas didn’t get Field

[vagrant ivy]

did I cook

[craggy pond]

dang ive been spoiled by running melony barry is noticeably slower 😅

hm should i do my first hilbert sync with only 3spatk so i can get two SEUN uses

[cloud timber]

yea barry is quite the speed penalty now

[dusty solar]

use Barry’s TM

[scenic grotto]

Looks like the only options for getting more than 800k is SC Hilbert and SC Barry

[dusty solar]

but save the second SEUP for your final sync

[craggy pond]

hm so +5 spatk on firs tsync?

just one barry TM

[dusty solar]

yep

that’s what i did

[sullen zephyr]

Me to bp barry after finding out about melony:

[dusty solar]

i also have 5/5 :/

[sullen zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-want-to-play-with-you-anymore-toy-story-i-dont-wanna-play-with-you-anymore-dont-wanna-play-no-more-play-gif-26906930

[safe prawn]

H viola should
Also get there

I think also scingo can do it if fully invested

[frail owl]

Just CS2 guzma, 9 sync buffs

[dusty solar]

I just hope this means an N pair soon 😭🙏

pls dont let blue be the only addition

[rose basalt]

rip ran out of regular feathers

[cloud timber]

they're going to add 1 every month, there's like 10 more left

[craggy pond]

I'll take that ig

[cloud timber]

i think next is bianca and the one after could be n? if they follow the same pattern as appearing at the same time as they're added to redeems

[lethal siren]

First impression

+10pmun
-6 defence
+Super effective

[cloud timber]

and they're added at the start of the month

[thin wren]

what's the meta rn?

[crude sandal]

Any H. Viola clears reaching 1M+?

[rose basalt]

bruh hilberts TM doesnt max sp atk in one use

tf

is this sht

[vagrant ivy]

not yet

[long silo]

SS Hilbert is the obvious one, but I saw a 3/5 Barry one reach 800k

[craggy pond]

hilbert taking up to 1:30 to start properly syncing is funny

when you need Techno Blast rebuff + 3 metal sound + 2 Dire Hit + 2 TM for full self setup

can be expedited with teammates but yeah 😅

[rose basalt]

oh u need to use metal sound?

bruh

[rain copper]

his innate is Smarty-Pants

[eternal pecan]

This is probably near the limit for me

Don’t have Holiday viola and my SS Hilbert is only 1/5

[rose basalt]

i assume i also grab charging affliction

for the metal sound

[dusty solar]

hopefully it’s N & Archeops then

[jolly violet]

dont

[dusty solar]

probably sprint i’d assume

or free flying zone field

[cloud timber]

yeah n is getting archeops

[craggy pond]

an attempt at 1/5 EXR SSHilbert with the Melony/NC Blue duo

barry and sc ingo was better but i thought it was worth looking at

[cloud timber]

the only other mon he owns in dc is zoroark which he already gets

[cunning rock]

Oooh, I can try this team out too.

[pallid girder]

Or they might pull another Evelyn move again: only added Evelyn one month after BP pairs were introduced but never added another again until the next anniversary.

[craggy pond]

another archeops unit is a win for me love that lizard bird thing

[cloud timber]

highly doubt they'll just stop exactly at blue

[rose basalt]

seems like 2 syncs in a row failed to crit

[pallid girder]

I've 900k with 3/5 SS Hilbert.
I'm trying to get HS1 on the sing support before I try again.

[craggy pond]

adrenaline might be more impactful considering you're running setup turns at the beginning with hilbert anyway?

either way both are good i suppose

[hollow whale]

And I’m out peace

[rose basalt]

and another failed 2 crits in a row

rng can suck it

[pallid girder]

Both are good but I'm not getting any yet.
It's frustrated when I want HS1 or AD1 on the support but keep getting SP3.

[jolly violet]

I think this is the best I can do with 3/5 SS Hilbert

[craggy pond]

and then the other way around trying to roll SP3 😅

[pallid girder]

I think I won't try roll SP3 on any strikers. It's just not universal so I'll stick to the guranteed cookies if I really want that 100k more pts.

[real wind]

I can get passed 400k+

The experiments meanwhile didn't even do stuff

[raven saffron]

don't even try gladion lol

he's miserable

though that's surprisingly low numbers for Viola.... is she rolex'd?

[cloud timber]

gladion should be able to hit about 250k on any single target

[true locust]

Yeap this team is the best one

[real wind]

Gladion has Double Down on Grid... Viola only a Sync Multiplier on Sync Move (which is Trap... None on Grid)

[rose basalt]

seems like i might need to roll for some gears to boost my damage to 1 mil

[ivory kestrel]

Cakewalk set first try. Still around 13 seconds after my last sync.. if i could get a couple para procs, maybe one more sync i could fit in

[rose basalt]

end up with 8 sync boosts

[cloud timber]

viola has shower power but you'd have to set up rain

[toxic sleet]

gonna enjoy my place among whales for now kek

[real wind]

If I probably played it properly then yes (cuz I saw some Gladion Runs w/ 200k+)... Probably a bit burnt out from the retries in the main EXR Viola team

Let me do a retry on Viola with Shower Power

[cloud timber]

yeah no need to spend any effort grinding gladion lmao

[pallid girder]

Gladion's expansion should give him Haymaker + Super Power 9 :3

[warped gulch]

+3 crit on entry too

[rain copper]

you meant Clutch Critical

[warped gulch]

Give him Critical Crit 9

So you must give him Burst In

[sacred badger]

brawn sync 5 😭

[warped gulch]

[rain copper]

ew

[nova remnant]

How goes the bug gaming chat

[vernal condor]

Field R

[sacred badger]

waiting for Holiday Viola haver to break 500k .-.

[warped gulch]

F2p found dead, limited so far only SS Hilbert reached 1m

[real wind]

This is with Shower Power (tho probably the team or rain setter needs a more optimal picking)

You need to set both Rain and Trap before Viola Sync which eats a bit of time

[warped gulch]

What about ….. stall ?

[real wind]

No... Sync Nuke

[warped gulch]

[cloud timber]

i don't think you actually get much of a better rain setup than ss kris bp barry

[nova remnant]

Messed up first try lol barely made it

[rose basalt]

got the last sync in with 2 sec to spare. had to use a techno blast for the bug rebuff

[raven saffron]

they're gonna give him support, watch

[real wind]

I'll try next reset if I can break the 500k Barrier with the EXR Viola (if anything I might need to rely a lot on Redlax MP Refreshes for this one)

[rose basalt]

[long silo]

My 1/5 EXR Viola at 6 syncs (2 supports) have 200k

[cloud timber]

running a singer over bp barry could reduce trap procs

though ofc you'd have to put up with sing animation in return

and melony has racing rain

[real wind]

If only I have Melony available

[cloud timber]

rip

[vernal condor]

Lowkey want Strike for the +40 atk lmao

[scenic grotto]

I don’t know why I am on the fence with giving SS Hilbert 1 candy for 3/5
Yes I might get an SS Hilbert dupe in the 100 free pulls but
-it’s extremely unlikely that I will get SS Hilbert dupe from 100 free pulls
-if I do double my score to 1m then I get to pull DC Blue
-I have 9 tech candy
-if I end up candying any other units for future stages, they will be striker units most likely
-and the slim chance of an Arceus unit (that can get 1m every stage when fully invested) releasing during anniversary meaning I wouldn’t have to candy any other units for Damage Challenge

[sacred badger]

i candied him regardless o.o

from 1/5 to 3/5 with EXR

just in case Bug Weak rolls around, you've got a nuker for the two instances

[scenic grotto]

Yeah, I just need to get my butt in gear and give him that candy

[pallid girder]

I actaully think an all type dmg dealer Arceus is a huge copium that won't happen.

[sacred badger]

right now and when we get 3v3 Bug

[frail owl]

if you're thinking this much better save that candy

[rain copper]

SS Hilbert is a great pair in many content, so i strongly suggest candying him and giving him the cake

but yeah like Lost said you are overthinking too much

[frail owl]

at the end of the day it's just a game, do whatever makes you happy

[devout pelican]

So how screwed am I without Hilbert?

[rain copper]

badly

[frail owl]

no other bug can reach 1m?

[rain copper]

no one has tried SC Ingo yet

so no clue, but isn't his number similar to Hilbert but with more setup?

[pallid girder]

SC Barry reaches 800k. Almost?

[glossy atlas]

Very screwed, i'm trying SC ingo, last sync without zone got 572k , at +4 atk

With colress and rosa

[real wind]

I'm probably looking forward to Steel Multi DC

• My best unit: Gloria
• Experiment 1: MC Solgaleo
• Experiment 2: 2/5 Raihan or 3/5 Steven (if I EX him)

[rain copper]

Gloria is the best choice

the others don't come close

[scenic grotto]

I know it’s Copium but a fan can copium
Most likely if it is a damage dealing Arceus that it wouldn’t be able to reach 1 million on any Damage Challenge stage
DeNA: you want Guaranteed 500k minimum damage per stage? Here you go but you better pull for power creep units if you want 1 million every stage

[warped gulch]

I tried with non EX Ingo and reach 600k

[rain copper]

i assume 3/5 too

[warped gulch]

Yeah

[rain copper]

[warped gulch]

I didn’t try para tho

[rain copper]

so he can definitely reach 1m with good partners

oh who did you try him out with?

[real wind]

I'm actually suprise seeing some Guzma Clears for this DC (especially since he's Strike)

[warped gulch]

Melony Hilbert

[rain copper]

it's more like he is the best option available

[pallid girder]

That's bc f2p have no other choice ya know?

[warped gulch]

Use solo sleep strat

Like this one

https://youtu.be/qy5HjCFOugc?si=dp4XOLZQHnswR7E9

[real wind]

I mean he seems to be the best options for f2ps

(I've seen people trying Gladion and I'm the only idiot here who tried the normal Viola)

and they don't come near to Guzma's Ave of 300-400k+ Points

[civic island]

F2p in shambles
Dena not releasing anything good enough

[simple saddle]

I just do it for the gems…

[scenic grotto]

If we did get an Arceus unit that could reach 1 million every stage, I can imagine that the ability to reach 1 million would be locked behind 5/5

[real wind]

My runs with them are subpar (but probably can reached 200k+ if played properly)

[pallid girder]

Yes they have the tendency to release the same role over and over again for a type. For bug it's striker.
We have "3" genpool bug strikers for some reason.

Funnily still only 1 is usable even in 3v3 DC.

[civic island]

We got one amazing support at least

[frail owl]

they won't release anything like that this soon, at least until they release a bunch of bait units for other types DC
by that time you will have enough candies

[civic island]

3/5 ssHilbert EXR

https://youtu.be/LwiD5UCClZM

[long silo]

Time to cook later

[thin wren]

back in my day units didn't even max stats with all tms

[safe prawn]

Mmmh… do you thing you can score higher with 5/5?

I need my 2.2 mln, I want the 5 extra coupons

[oak dune]

I hate trap

[safe prawn]

Oh Barry has shocking slowdown

I may……

[thin wren]

is rock gonna be aoe or st?

[safe prawn]

St

[slender venture]

ST next

[thin wren]

could Selene be viable there even at only 3/5?

[icy scroll]

Roark

[slender venture]

SS Diantha or bust

[safe prawn]

Mmmh the alola circle may disappear

[thin wren]

oh right she's a tech

[slender venture]

Paulo too I imagine

[safe prawn]

Imo Roark or lodge Steven might be better

[thin wren]

nvm just gonna use ss diantha

[pallid girder]

Gordie reach 1M in 3v3.

[safe prawn]

Oh I almost forgot about gordie

[thin wren]

I forgot ss diantha was tech and thought she was support because I haven't used her in a while

[safe prawn]

He might have the best nuke but he has burn and setup not that easy

[icy scroll]

What!

My Gordie barely did 150k damage!

[thin wren]

gordie means rock is the second st where f2ps get 1 mil I assume

[thin wren]

1 mil was achieved in 3v3 with gordie so st should be easier but I remember the setup being very rng

[lethal siren]

Selene bmove flinch spam for next triple steel dc?

[safe prawn]

You need + 6 speed and - 6 lol

[thin wren]

not worth. Just nuke with her

[lethal siren]

Lol

[thin wren]

she has mega sync bp cut unfortunately but she has steel zone and 190% sync multipliers

[lethal siren]

Well nuke fine then

Metallic sync 9

[thin wren]

and she's base field so her field has no anim and lasts the entire battle

[thin wren]

and haymaker

[lethal siren]

Yea

With super powered

[glacial robin]

https://youtu.be/KOlyM0W8k-k?si=dTRB1xinWUZSG6IX

[civic island]

Sure, but with that team you have an hard time running cakewalk so you can take just the two rebuff instead
The 10% from 5/5 plus a 2nd rebuff should be enough for 2M
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/2001/64900?s=5&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFCA4hIikrLTAyMzQ&x=true
For Cakewalk https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/2001/64900?s=5&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFCw4hIiMmKSstMDM0&x=true
Is worth but is harder to set up

[thin wren]

I am kinda sad next rock dc is st. Just got Selene first multi so was hoping to test her in dc

has st Hilbert crossed 2.5 mil yet?

[hidden fog]

Who's the premium option for ST Rock?

[thin wren]

ss diantha

Pretty sure she has the strongest st rock nuke and field exr fixes her zone issues

[hidden fog]

Hm

Guess I'll use NC Silver

1/5 SS Diantha

[oak dune]

Couldn't get 1m

[faint quiver]

Last sync no crit and no mpr.

[thin wren]

I just got 1.2mil with ss Hilbert,chase and melony and left lol

I don't wanna grind bug dc

[sullen zephyr]

Spot on the thousand tho. Shame the extra damage ruins it.

[lethal siren]

Is steel wish extension from grid needed?

[thin wren]

no

[lethal siren]

Ohk

[thin wren]

field ex sync from sc Selene should last the entire fight if she's third sync

or even second

[lethal siren]

So this should be good

[lethal siren]

Nice ok

[thin wren]

could you get a sync tile over head start 1?

[lethal siren]

Have to check
But isn't it good coz after sync also work?

[thin wren]

no

[thin wren]

head start 1 is worded in such a way that it doesn't activate again after being activated once

[lethal siren]

It's mega scizor

Oh

I mean initial dmg guard also work like that

[rose basalt]

wats ur lucky skill

sp3?

[lethal siren]

Yup

Have to farm lg for that

Which I'll do

[rose basalt]

i dont

[thin wren]

head start 1 is worked differently

[scenic grotto]

Finally worked up the courage to spend a tech candy

[rose basalt]

do u actually need steel zone extension tho

this is what im thinking

[thick holly]

is there a non 3/5 option?

[rose basalt]

1x move candy used on hilbert; 1 role cake and 1 move candy on selene

a worthy investment since the latter will also help against steel bertha

[thick holly]

that was the shittiest run ever

[thin wren]

no need for extension

[thick holly]

god having 1/5 mechbert hurts

[thin wren]

field ex handles most of the zone uptime

[rose basalt]

so i guess just haymaker, HS1 and metallic surge and 3 sync nodes

[thin wren]

1 sync node over hs1 imo

[scenic grotto]

I wouldn’t have 3/5 my SS Hilbert if I did not get a dupe on the 72 hour banner

[late owl]

People using blue in this challenge is it better to run him than using redlax ?

[fluid anvil]

so the only team that got over 2M is SS Hilbert (5/5) + BP Barry + H.Viola, right?
I think that might actually be the best one, getting zone is worth it over the Melony sing strats (less syncs, but they hit harder).
and Viola also gives you increased para proc chance

[rose basalt]

i mean either way 1 mil should be pretty easy to get since its a triple

thats all i need lul

oh wait just saw ur previous msg

HS1 only works once

[queen moth]

not bad considering I just sort of ran into this without trying to do any sort of optimization I think

I don't have Christmas Viola so.

[queen moth]

Oh snap

[latent plover]

5/5 SS Hilbert comes in clutch

[normal parcel]

What's the best Guzma clear?

[pallid girder]

Video proof of Gordie reaching 1M:
https://x.com/TALDYSJfJNLjkzP/status/1811775529835700466

令和 (@TALDYSJfJNLjkzP) on X

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[thick holly]

Anyone has a f2p option ?

cua 1/5 mechbert isn't cutting it

[queen moth]

you probably could get away with guzma here i think

[thick holly]

ugh...

[hidden fog]

I'm not sure about that

[thick holly]

But isn't his sync not great here ?

[queen moth]

just colress/redlax/guzma could get you maybe not 1mil but something

[thick holly]

It's one guy

[thick holly]

probably on triple but single...

[pallid girder]

It's either SS Hilbert or no 1M.

[hidden fog]

Yeah

[thick holly]

I wanna do at least more than 200k

[hidden fog]

Just throw whatever, get your 100 jewels, and call it a day

[thick holly]

i have mechbert BUT HE'S NOT DOING JACK SHIT AT 1/5

The best i did was this

[hidden fog]

Lemme fix what David said

Either have 3/5 SS Hilbert or no 1m

No Brainpower? Bye bye

[thick holly]

ugh

I knew that one was gonna be shit for me

What's the next one

Oooooh

[hidden fog]

ST Rock

[thick holly]

Rose gaming

wait wut

Oh

I thought it was steel

Welp tome to use gordie

[rose basalt]

diantha prob rock single

[thick holly]

or Field ss diantha now

[queen moth]

hey whats your grids here? i'm only getting like 600k when doing this and i had to swap out melony for barry

[thin wren]

ss diantha gaming

[thin wren]

1 mil should be possible

[rose basalt]

i think silver technicqlly hit 1 mil tho

[hidden fog]

Believe in Olivia

[rose basalt]

even on singles

[pallid girder]

I've seen ppl reaching 400k or so with 1/5 SS Hilbert tho.

[thin wren]

gordie got 1 mil f2p in rock single

[queen moth]

i assume caking hilbert does nothing here right

[pallid girder]

He gains massive spatk boost. That is something.

[queen moth]

mmm fair point

[hidden fog]

SS Hilbert cake is huge

[queen moth]

tysm!

[cloud timber]

i mean i still did this without any grid or gear (but had sp3 on)

[hidden fog]

Why Melony

[cloud timber]

first message in pins

[hidden fog]

Nvm

[queen moth]

oh don't have troublemaker? thats my mistake lol

so you want sing to whiff?

[cloud timber]

kind of

you just want to be doing anything but running troublemaker bc that eats up so much time

missing the accuracy check on a paralyzed opponent makes it slightly slower than hitting it but it's still vastly faster than anything with troublemaker

[queen moth]

so nc blue paralyzes and melony spams sing after, am i getting that right?

am i syncing with blue and/or melony (assuming both are EX'd ofc)

[cloud timber]

both

[queen moth]

gotcha

[teal harness]

I hate bug challenge, I only did 160k with guzma

[oak dune]

[hidden fog]

SC Ingo GOD

Also I love the font on the numbers

CN cooking

[oak dune]

I hate trap so much

[faint quiver]

Damn, wenwen posted a sec before me.

[unborn vault]

Hello!

How badly is f2p eating this time?

[pallid girder]

Oh so sometimes old strategy is a better strategy ig.

[foggy sun]

Eating?

[unborn vault]

I mean

[foggy sun]

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-please-sir-may-i-have-some-more-oliver-mark-lester-poor-gif-7821643

[unborn vault]

What is even the best single target bug type

F2p

[pallid girder]

~400k with Guzma

[unborn vault]

Does Viola do better somehow?

[oak dune]

Viola +rain

[unborn vault]

Or maybe there are... fancy fury cutter strats?

[unborn vault]

Even without rain tbh, role compression feels hard

Maybe Gladion does better than Viola...???

[oak dune]

Jk she sucks, trap basically eats away one sync

Gladion and Guzma better

[normal parcel]

I could ex Nolan, and give him sp3 but 1m isn't even close

[rain copper]

have anyone tried V Noland lol

[unborn vault]

Is that fury cutter?

[unborn vault]

I would, if I had him

[nova remnant]

[rain copper]

https://tenor.com/view/trophy-frustrated-goal-mr-turner-fairly-odd-parents-gif-8888418

[icy scroll]

Poison stall > Bug type attack

[fiery rose]

Oh gods this is hell

I tried red/melony/hilbert

There is no gauge

You can't even sing spam bc you run out

[rain copper]

Hilbert has 2 SEUN from his TM so you can afford running NC Blue

[fiery rose]

I don't have nc blue

[pallid girder]

Chase?

[fiery rose]

If someone is dropped it's melony

Again, nope

I'm probably going back to barry

[icy scroll]

NC Rosa for melony?

[fiery rose]

Nope

Y'all keep listing units I ain't got lmao

[tender patrol]

I have no luck with ninjask either

[fluid anvil]

generally dont use NC Rosa if its not Psychic or Fighting
anyway, yes, drop Melony and use BP barry.
Melony sing spam isnt even always the best meta

[fiery rose]

Ok yeah I think the issue is 1/5 Hilbert too

[icy scroll]

Well if you don't use Relic song and sync move of Rosa, she is good at moving gauge and sing spam.

Sync with Red instead!

[fiery rose]

1/5 hilbert with rebuff and minimised spdef didn't clear 300k

[pallid girder]

Ppl want 2 ex support sync instead of 1.

[oak dune]

No point using Rosa if you don't sync with her

[fiery rose]

This is exr with 2 supp ex syncs

[normal parcel]

Yes

[icy scroll]

Okay!

[fiery rose]

Doesn't clear 300k bc lmao 1/5 I guess

[copper otter]

Mmmmm i love 80% crit rate.

Mmmmmm i lovr it not critting TWICE.

[oak dune]

Elio is a bit better with gauge than Melony

He's kinda between Melony and Barry

[fiery rose]

Not better enough to support 3 metal sounds and a techno blast in the opening cycles

[pallid girder]

Have seen ppl do 400k w 1/5 Hilbert.

[thick holly]

yeah no guzma ain't doing shit either

[thick holly]

how ?

i can't do more than 200k

[hybrid pulsar]

Mfw my only bug tech is Viola

Ive never realised how few bug techs there are. Like, why do we have 3 bug strikers in gen pool lmao

[pallid girder]

Oh with NC Blue
#1255888121648644197 message

[unborn vault]

Hilbert needs a lot of copies to work well

[unborn otter]

I have 4/5 exr ss hilbert. can someone post a grid for 3/5 or 4/5?

[cloud timber]

but not for 400k

[unborn otter]

i have 8e

[crude sandal]

Still waiting for H. Viola clear

[normal parcel]

With 1/5 ex Hilbert I scored less than guzma

[hidden fog]

Why is Noland there

Dual DPS

[normal parcel]

Fury cutter dps

[hidden fog]

Not sure about dual dpsing

[normal parcel]

Hilbert just syncs

[hidden fog]

Might be better to run 1 dps and 2 supports to cheat frames

[cloud timber]

i got 1.4m with that

[normal parcel]

The idea is having 1 nuker and Nolan as dps

[hidden fog]

I don't think that's a particularly good setup for maximizing score

[normal parcel]

You can nuke with Nolan, but it resets fury cutter, and his nuke is worse than Guzman or 1/5 Hilbert

[hidden fog]

At that point isn't it better to just run a 2nd support

[normal parcel]

What's the best f2p damage score (even with premium supports)

[hidden fog]

Idk

[pallid girder]

He's not trying top score tho. He's trying how much furry cutter can deal in this challenge.

[hidden fog]

Just giving my 2 cents

Oh cool

[normal parcel]

Who syncs then?

[long silo]

I saw an 800k SC Barry, but I'd like a video on that one

[hidden fog]

The supports

Anyways you do you, just a rare sight for me

[normal parcel]

For 0 damage?

[hidden fog]

Yes

Believe it or not supports aren't there to do damage

[copper otter]

You're always supposed to sync with supports

[normal parcel]

But half my score is from sync

[hidden fog]

Yeah

[copper otter]

and?

[hidden fog]

Sorry to see that

[clever wasp]

I assume f2p single bug is doomed

[copper otter]

Half your power is from support ex

[hidden fog]

Yep

Lol

Anyways good luck

[hidden fog]

For 1m? Kinda

Just throw Guzma and roll with whatever you get

[normal parcel]

How much can guzma score?

[hidden fog]

Not 1m

That's for sure

[copper otter]

Don't expect to get 1m with this one.

[clever wasp]

Gonna assume Hilbert is the only one capable

[hidden fog]

SC Ingo can do it

[copper otter]

No, sc ingo can

[clever wasp]

I don't have investments on him

[fluid anvil]

is this the first time that f2p (or even just with a f2p damage dealer) cannot do 1M ?

[copper otter]

No

Flying

[hidden fog]

Which f2p pair 1m the last DCs

Oh

LSkyla is just that good

Glory be

[copper otter]

No i said, flying couldn't do 1 mil

For f2p

[normal parcel]

My best is 575k probably I will probably break 600k with sp3 and 6ex on Nolan (and maybe slightly better skill gear

[hidden fog]

Oh

LSkyla DOA

[pallid girder]

LSkyla is worse than LSerena is ST.

[copper otter]

Funnily enough, Lodge Serena was the better option

What a tech does to ya

[normal parcel]

Bug doesn't even have a f2p tech option

[pallid girder]

LSerena almost reach 900K

[normal parcel]

Probably I should just candy Hilbert to 3/5

[cloud timber]

viola counts, she's just weak

[pallid girder]

The last time f2p dmg dealer reach 1M is psychic 3v1.

[normal parcel]

Don't like candying him, because I hate units that have important nodes at 4 and 5/5

[normal parcel]

Doesn't even have ex

[cloud timber]

she does

[normal parcel]

But still trap based sync rain as only sync multiplier, terrible stats, no self buffs

[cloud timber]

yeah best anyone got was 169k but only one person tried and had her

at ex

and shared results

[normal parcel]

F2p bug definitely won't cut it

For AOE guzma is great, but for st there aren't much options

[cloud timber]

by 1m standards, not at all yea

[normal parcel]

Don't know if I can squeeze a bit more from Nolan

[pallid girder]

Any particulr reason you use HJasmine over Red?

[unborn otter]

No tm mpr on hilbert. Cs2 and bug gear

[normal parcel]

Team crit buffs

Red needs to use tm to crit buff

And is single target

[scenic grotto]

I wonder what F2P/Gen Pool damage dealers can reach 1m damage
So far we know of
-Guzma (3v3)
-Lucian (3v1)
-Courtney (3v1)

[clever wasp]

Courtney hilariously being the only ground that could do it

[hidden fog]

Damn no Ryuki

Joever

[vernal condor]

No one has ryuki

[hidden fog]

WTF

[vernal condor]

No one really tried lol

[hidden fog]

You right tho

[pallid girder]

Ryuki did 1M.

[hidden fog]

!!!

[clever wasp]

I have him but didn't go for ex

[hidden fog]

[scenic grotto]

Thanks, updating now

[rain copper]

Also Gordie on 3v3

[long silo]

I thiiiiink someone did Olivia

[clever wasp]

Now Tiernk I don't have

[long silo]

For Rock 3v3

[pallid girder]

Morty in 3v3

[hidden fog]

Wow being f2p is so cool...

Said noone over

But good for them

[clever wasp]

Pretty sure I did Morty 3v3

[long silo]

The Cyrus one is free, but definitely not f2p tho lmao

[scenic grotto]

Guzma 3v3
Lucian 3v1
Courtney 3v1
~~Ryuki ~~
Gordie 3v3
Olivia 3v3
Morty 3v3
Koga 3v1

[hidden fog]

The damage dealer is f2p but how about the supports

[pallid girder]

Oh and Koga reach 1M w Chase + Melony I believe.

[clever wasp]

Some probably were Colress and barry

[scenic grotto]

Indeed
Unfortunately most only got to 1m due to limited supports

[hidden fog]

Yeah

So the true f2ps are fewer than listed

Still it's really cool f2p pairs get to shine

[normal parcel]

Ryuki isn't f2p yet

[scenic grotto]

Definitely

[vernal condor]

I mean he is

[long silo]

If we are just going for the pure f2p units

[scenic grotto]

I struck a line through him until he is added next update

[long silo]

Lucian/Bianca/Melony

[pallid girder]

The only 1M that pure f2p teams did was:
Guzma 3v3
Morty 3v3
Lucian 3v1

[vernal condor]

He's not easily accessible but he's definitely f2p

[long silo]

Morty/Barry/Victor

What's the Guzma team

[scenic grotto]

Colress is one

[pallid girder]

Colress + SS Elesa

[long silo]

Oh okay

[vernal condor]

Outdated tbf

SS Elesa no longer meta

[scenic grotto]

Colress and Melony or Elio?

[vernal condor]

Melony ye

[hidden fog]

SS Elesa unlimited sync CD works

[vernal condor]

No

Slower than sing spam

[hidden fog]

Is that so

How unfortunate

[pallid girder]

Yes but she helped Guzma reached 1M, back when ppl didn't find out sing spam yet.

[vernal condor]

MPR is slow, countdown animation is slow

[pallid girder]

No one was using sing spam when bug 3v3 was alive.

[normal parcel]

Depends what f2m means, in theory every unit not named mix red and mix blue is f2p but most aren't easily accessible

[scenic grotto]

Investing in support is better than investing in individual damage dealers
Supports can help clear multiple stages
Damage dealers could clear more than 2 stages if they are able to change their sync type

[hidden fog]

Hilbert can change 5...

Oh sync

Nevermind

[scenic grotto]

Unfortunately only DPS

[clever wasp]

Technically you could've selected Redlax from the free scout they had a half a year again

[hidden fog]

Gladion can change 18

[clever wasp]

Ago

[hidden fog]

Must be broken in DC

[copper otter]

Anything in the general pool scout can be declared F2P, but your definition comes from whether or not you need gems to scout them

[scenic grotto]

I too am annoyed that SS Hilbert can’t change sync type

[vernal condor]

He's still a spotlight that you can get in any scout

[pallid girder]

Maybe SSHilbert can hit 5M with the new strategy in 3v3 not gonna lie.

[scenic grotto]

Gladeon: cries in 200k damage

[vernal condor]

300

[scenic grotto]

Not even 300k, just 300

[vernal condor]

Didnt crit the 2nd sync, he probably can reach 300k

[pallid girder]

He hit 4M back then and it's with the slower BP Barry.

[lethal siren]

Oh I forgot abt him

[fluid anvil]

sing isnt automatically better than BP barry, because sing requires a second support to work (gauge, paralysis)

BP Barry is self-sufficient by himself

[cloud timber]

ss hilbert/nc blue/melony is good tho

[fluid anvil]

I think it's worse than BP barry + bug zone honestly .. at most equal

[cloud timber]

yep

[copper otter]

Bug zone is just a discount replacement for a second support ex tbh

[fluid anvil]

like SS Cyrus ended up being better than Melony for Dark 3v3
less syncs but more powerful gave more pts than more syncs, but less powerful

[scenic grotto]

DC supports could be boiled down like so
NC Blue, Hilbert: stat buffs
Colress, Melony, Elio, NC Rosa: Sync Countdown
Larry, Redlax, SC Steven: damage multipliers
BP Barry, Chase, Poppy, HoliJasmine: Paralysis

[fluid anvil]

Chase

[scenic grotto]

Chase belongs in his own category

[nova remnant]

i hate this game bruh the moment i got MPR i am guaranteed at least 1 non crit sync

[fluid anvil]

Chase is ~generally just a better NC Blue for special syncers

[pallid girder]

Better if you're luckier, but worse if you're super unlucky.

Bc the being hit gain hp part.

[scenic grotto]

Chase: luck dependant /j

[copper otter]

Add HOLIJASMINE

I KEEP SAYING SC

[thin wren]

has anyone gotten over 1 mik with Barry? highest I saw was 8.9k

[clever wasp]

Tried failed

[fluid anvil]

gaining hp part is easily mitigated by Sprint and by evasions
Chase is also actually way LESS rng for paralysing 3 targets compared to NC Blues "must hit 9% "

[scenic grotto]

Chase, Poppy, HoliJasmine: Paralysis

[thin wren]

where chase

[clever wasp]

I just want 75M cuz that gets me to 100k

[scenic grotto]

Look above you

[pallid girder]

Is that 8.9k already using SP3 and the best gear?

If not maybe 1M is possible.

[thin wren]

Idk, there was just a pic

[hidden fog]

Holy Jasmine

[nova remnant]

All crits but 2 low rolls

[hidden fog]

Nice

[nova remnant]

I'm done time to go back Ace Attorney🚶

[clever wasp]

Is it worth getting Hilbert from a select just for this crap 🤔😅

[nova remnant]

Hilbert in general is still a good pair imo

[hidden fog]

Very good pair outside of DC

[cloud timber]

goated with the sauce

[clever wasp]

He's been on my list for a bit just never chased him

[nova remnant]

Slow ass set up still but in general he's great

Rebuff for 5 types, fast debuff once at the appropriate level and good DPS

[clever wasp]

But it might get harder since pokefair selects are region based now

[nova remnant]

Region?

Thought it was role?

Or is that seasonal only?

[thin wren]

there's better options from select?

[hidden fog]

There's a select?

[pallid girder]

If you lack an aoe spdef debuffer in 3 turns, it's either SS Hilbert or Summer Gardenia.

[thick holly]

best i can do

[thin wren]

anni has selects usually

[hidden fog]

Oh later

True

[thick holly]

I WILL GIVE NC ROSA PINPOINT ENTRY 2 I SWEAR

[hidden fog]

Huh

[nova remnant]

What why?

[cloud timber]

no need for that

[thick holly]

her sing pisses me off

never hits

And before you ask

mine is 1/5

[nova remnant]

I mean the sing is only for spamming

[pallid girder]

You didn't paralyze the opponent?

[thick holly]

i don't

[nova remnant]

Not actually putting them to sleep, as that shaves off time

[thick holly]

why ?

doesn't that save them from Us ng moves

[nova remnant]

Paralyzed is needed so the sing fails and thus no animation played

No animation means faster sync countdown rush

[pallid girder]

You don't want to see sing animation at all.
It's the same as Twave/Sspore spam: you just want -1 cd w/o seeing any animation

[nova remnant]

Sing just a bit faster due to than Twave atm thanks to being relatively gauge friendly and having no passive attached to it

You do need speed still

[rare apex]

that was close

[normal parcel]

But the chances are pretty low (expecially if you need 3 copies) but in the end f2p depends on the definition you give to it, personally i draw the line at the scout pool units (basically I just consider f2p any unit that doesn't require gems to get it, or has an insanely high chance in the general pool (3/4★ gen pool units)

[thick holly]

i was a fool...

uh oh

game crashed

it registered good

[cloud timber]

yeah i just like to say non-limited

[clever wasp]

The last set of pokefair selects went by region. Gen 1-3 4-6 7-9

[clever wasp]

For Anni guaranteed

[pallid girder]

Ryuki would be f2p when the next time Dragon 3v3 show up again anyway.

[clever wasp]

The holiday selects are just the start for selecte

[pallid girder]

The issue is that it'll rule out f2p but limited pairs like Riley and Event Victor.

[nova remnant]

Oohh huh interesting

Never realized that

[clever wasp]

Cuz they can't really do roles anymore I doubt there's still enough field sprint to make selects for them worth anything

[nova remnant]

Wait which gen hisui characters fall into?

[clever wasp]

4

[nova remnant]

4 or 8?

[crude sandal]

Sinnoh

[nova remnant]

Oh thank god

[cosmic wing]

We also had select by role before, so we don't know if this time, it will select by region or role

It's better to just wait for datamine

[clever wasp]

Gonna assume by region cuz again I don't think there's enough field sprint to do their own

[nova remnant]

I'm hoping it'll be by gen again so I can safely get Chase, Jacq and Volo

[clever wasp]

But yeah there's no absolute confirmation at all til datamine

[cosmic wing]

Unless DeNA group them together There's still only like 8 or 9 choice

[safe prawn]

Hilbert has been a safe investment for almost 2 years, and still will be because even if they release a more powerful bug unit, Hilbert being able to debuff spdef AoE and apply 2 rebuff will be relevant for a long time

[brazen dew]

What is guzma's highest?

[clever wasp]

If it's region in doing ?, Hilbert, Oleana?

[safe prawn]

Also speaking about bug types, Hilbert is BY FAR the most powerful bug unit and the gap is big

[clever wasp]

I have a feeling we could get another tech ground and bug if they realize how hard dc is without

[pallid girder]

Fun fact: both time Paulo got ruled out bc he's a sprint (so not in striker/tech/support) and Poma's oc (so not in any region).

[cosmic wing]

Hilbert is like your only option in single Bug DC Ingo and Viola needs trap

[clever wasp]

Which makes Paulo a decent mix scout select

[safe prawn]

Hilbert is best both in 1v3 and 3v3

[thick holly]

Yeah

he's a must to candy for reruns of bug dc

[safe prawn]

And by now the most effective picks in the mix scout in terms of rarity are
Rocket leaders
Paulo
Alt Gloria
Lear

[thin wren]

steel has no tech strike right?

[pallid girder]

Gloria kinda. She's a striker but have innate multiplier.

[cosmic wing]

Unless Anni gives us an OP bug tech that also have striker cake

[safe prawn]

the forbidden variety giovanni

[thin wren]

I am still sad Lear didn't rerun this month and get an expansion

[cosmic wing]

Trust in Gloria getting tech cake

[nova remnant]

Anni Alder real

[thick holly]

Nope

There's only striker tech

which only has Rose

[cosmic wing]

For Steel DC, I think Rose will be the top one

[thin wren]

Why dena whyyy

[thick holly]

yep

i still wanna have him

[nova remnant]

Probably gonna be like this
Rose >> Gloria >>>> everyone else

[thin wren]

is rose's sync with Steel zone stronger than sc Selene sync with seun and Steel zone?

[clever wasp]

Lear Rachel and Sawyer need a rerun banner badly

[safe prawn]

Rose/ScSelene/Gloria are 3 contestants for the steel dc

[thin wren]

I think sc Selene will be pretty high

[nova remnant]

Oh right SC Selene

[safe prawn]

watch them being outclassed by a 7 years old hammer child

[nova remnant]

I forgot she exists

[thin wren]

zone compression and strike exr

[cosmic wing]

I am not sure, but I guess Cake Rose should be higher?

[thick holly]

for single she'll likely be a heck of a good pair

[cosmic wing]

Tho, SC Selene is also the second one I think will preform good in 3v3 Steel DC

[thick holly]

for pultiple, rose and the rest are ruling

[thin wren]

doubt it. She has no nuke, the dc is aoe and her b move anim ain't short

[pallid girder]

Poppy can spam herself lol

[thick holly]

But for single Poppy is about to be strong

[safe prawn]

She might also be good for 3v3 bc of the b move which is basically a single target sync move that you can apply physical move up next to lol

[cosmic wing]

Yeah for single, I guess Tate, P Marnie and Poppy

[pallid girder]

Poppy can afford both 2 teammates to boost her dmg.
Unlike most pairs need one slot that's dedicated to spam so no dmg boost from there.

[thin wren]

for single poppy should be pretty high

[safe prawn]

And, she applies herself paralysis

[nova remnant]

How would grimsley stands in 3v1?

[cosmic wing]

I do wonder if P Marnie will preform the best since she set her own steel zone

[thin wren]

probably

[nova remnant]

Or is his TM too risky?

[thick holly]

I doubt it

[thick holly]

the thing is that dc don't do jack shit damage

[thin wren]

his tm ain't risky in dc

enemies hit like wet noodles

[thick holly]

Yeah

[thin wren]

dipped in soy sauce

[thick holly]

They can hit well sometimes but rarely

[safe prawn]

Cursed child to the rescue

[cosmic wing]

Grimsley would just be your F2P option that won't quite reach super high score but still like better than any other F2P steel

[thin wren]

cursed?

[thick holly]

i had colress die once

[cloud timber]

it's not negligible when dubwool koes bp barry and cyrus dies from 50%

[thick holly]

he does have a big sync

Solgaleo would be pain to use

[safe prawn]

She took too many gems away from me

[thin wren]

simply get your pfs first multi

[thick holly]

is there a ranking of the dc pairs ?

[cosmic wing]

PB Solgaleo I can see people use in 3v3 Steel

[thick holly]

I wanna nnow who yo go for

[safe prawn]

Also 4/5 havers can take advantage of dc9, but ScSteven will be a must for her

[thin wren]

they are mostly equal

[safe prawn]

So no need

[thick holly]

Problem i have is the 'eed for -6 sp def

[safe prawn]

I mean ScSteven will be a must for rose too to spam a +10 PMUN iron head

[thin wren]

Hopefully 1/5 is enough

[cosmic wing]

Oh yeah Rip F2P players then

[prisma quail]

Top tier:
BarryRoserade/RedLax/Klingklang/SStoutland/Meloetta

Next tier:
Tech units with strike EX role that have easy to set up nukes

[safe prawn]

Chase:

[pallid girder]

Why though? Solgaleo's sync multiplier is Haymaker.

[cosmic wing]

I think they meant the DC rivals

not "who good in DC"

[thin wren]

le is asking about dc shop units

[normal parcel]

1/5 Hilbert won't cut it

[prisma quail]

Ok.

Then at 1/5 Nemona and Lycanroc brings rock field and an extra Paldea unit.

Gladion and Weavile is probably the best unit at 3/5

[safe prawn]

Gladion and weavile
Blue and alakazam
Hugh

The rest

[cosmic wing]

All of the DC pairs are quite close anyway, so usually I just suggest to go for your favorite first

Or be like me go for DC Marnie and dark HSE and Wally for dragon HSE I didn't even use Marnie for hse

[thick holly]

and brainteaser

[safe prawn]

You are not gonna use them in hse if you have been playing for 1-2 years

[thick holly]

that's not what i meant

but i made my choice

[pallid girder]

It's regular move multiplier.

[thick holly]

i took altaria

Oh

I FORGOT

Yeah so Solgaleo is good for triple steel

[pallid girder]

OMG just give me HS1! Fuck those cookies!

[spark cape]

lol im screwed for bug single

150k with lusamine

[unborn vault]

Where has chase been optimal besides Koga comp?

[merry stump]

How can I improve?

These are the ones that I have

[unborn vault]

Yeeaa... same situation here

[fluid anvil]

most Melony/sing comps with a special nuker?

[unborn vault]

I've seen more often Blue as a spdropper

And everything else

[pallid girder]

Sometimes an unit is used more only bc more ppl have it.

[fluid anvil]

most people dont have Chase or have him at 1/5 only. Or just dont think to use him

[clever wasp]

All you could really do is ex Melony for two support ex's I guess

Do we even have any f2p pairs that give super effective up next

[cloud timber]

dana

[clever wasp]

I really hope they give those pairs an the ex for anniversary

The 4* pairs did last year so it would only be fair for them to this year for 5*

[cursive linden]

Yessir

Is t wave + sleep spam better than t wave + zone?

[cloud timber]

naw it's budget

[civic island]

Can you try this with Aaron instead of Barry?

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/15200/41600?s=5&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBggKCwwOERIVJigpKiw

Like para w red and spam defend order

[neat raft]

Done, needed all the seup mprs tho on Hilbert's TM

managed to squeeze in a last regular attack after sync for that final boost to 1m

[loud cedar]

is f2p dead

whats highest f2p score

[slender venture]

Like 500k

Maybe

[cloud timber]

yep not above 600k

[loud cedar]

damn

[icy pendant]

seeing these low Hilbert scores does not give me hope for SC Barry

[cursive linden]

I don't think 1M is considered 'low'

[neat raft]

without zones getting 1m with Hilbert is actually pretty hard unless your Hilbert is 5/5

for that double rebuff

single rebuff u need really good mpr refresh luck on his TM

[tired narwhal]

Turns out, 1/5 is not it

[craggy pond]

that was my run, the SS Hilbert / Melony / NC Blue
Hilbert is 1/5 EXR, grid HE2 and the -SpDef nodes on NC Blue
setup with first turn discharge paralysis, x2 metal sound, 1 techno blast before blue TM (saves SMUN for final techno blast at the end), NC blue speed and TM
double support sync into Hilbert syncs, save Hilbert TM SEUN for last two syncs (or try proc TM MPR and go for three SEUN syncs i guess)

[tired narwhal]

Synced like 5 times with him too lol

[oak dune]

Do you think using Aaron can be better? I have the timer down to the last second, there's no way he can squeeze in another sync and Aaron is not more f2p. I also get to +6 atk -6 def so no improvement there

[frail owl]

1/5 hilbert can do 4-500k

[oak dune]

The trap RNG is hell I really don't want to do it again

[nova remnant]

Get 3 Hilbert MPRs
2 crits missed
Fml

[tired narwhal]

Maybe I gotta debuff more

[craggy pond]

only got 4 Hilbert syncs, you might be able to squeeze five with better paralysis procs / first turn flinch since i had ten or so seconds left at the end there

that i used on x2 techno blast

1/5 hilbert with SC ingo and BP Barry gets 500k+ approaching 600k

[normal parcel]

1/5 Hilbert gets 500k+ even with melony and NC blue

[tired narwhal]

Soo how u getting 500k with 1/5

[craggy pond]

that makes sense, this was only a single run (unoptimised)

does that use SP3?

[tired narwhal]

I only did 1 run and got 163k lol

[normal parcel]

I guess is more a matter of 80% crit

[tired narwhal]

Do I need to debuff with metal sound?

[craggy pond]

ah yeah 😅

yes his innate needs it

[tired narwhal]

And then use TM once at end with blue tm?

[normal parcel]

If only Hilbert had soften up (and at max 3/5) I probably have candied him long time ago

[craggy pond]

before you start Hilbert syncing do blue TM

[spark olive]

i must really suck at this game because even with my hilbert 3/5 i can't do 1 mil (because the sync moves do not crit)

[tired narwhal]

Yeah are they even that good with 3/5

[normal parcel]

3/5 Hilbert is the bare minimum to score 1m (and I guess you need some premium supports too)

[tired narwhal]

Gotcha

How are they compared to SC Barry

[normal parcel]

SC Barry isn't that great for st

[craggy pond]

SC Barry isn't optimal but I think I've seen 800k or something ?

[tired narwhal]

I wonder which 1/5 is better

[craggy pond]

I think people could probably do 1 mil with enough 3/5 barry runs

Hilbert is tech

[tired narwhal]

U would need a tm refresh for Barry to get attack max

[normal parcel]

1/5 Hilbert can do something but doesn't break 600k I guess

Maybe he can with good luck

[long silo]

So I think the effective way for Barry is SEUN + PMUN on the very last B Move

[craggy pond]

hilbert has tech innate multiplier, rebuff and debuffs

[long silo]

This run of mine inflicted like 400k dmg

On the B Move alone

[normal parcel]

NC blue gives a bit more sync damage to 1/5 Ss Hilbert

[long silo]

I'll attempt more runs but may also involve improving gears

[craggy pond]

nc blue is good because he expedites hilberts setup significantly plus has the team sync multiplier

but zone is still better if you have it

[normal parcel]

Don't have zone, normal and bug are the only zones I'm missing

[sturdy pebble]

Is it possible to reach one mil without Zone or Hilbert's EXR

[spark olive]

OH MY GOD why i am so unlucky, +3 crit, out of 4 sync moves i did a crit only one

[prisma quail]

I'm one sync short because I don't have the move gauge management to keep sing going

[pallid girder]

Did you pick SS Hilbert's TM MPR and refresh for all SEUN on sync?

[sturdy pebble]

No

[pallid girder]

He needs that at 3/5 I believe.

[prisma quail]

With only 2/5 Genesect, I feel like my Vivillon kill would be fine if I could get that final sync

It would probably put her at like 750k damage

[pallid girder]

Maybe try Elio? He's more gauge friendly with no spe buff in your team.

[sturdy pebble]

Is this a good grid?

Forgot the pic

[normal parcel]

Not sure if I want to candy my SS Hilbert (3/5 isn't even his peak potential, and isn't even an easy clear without zone)

[nova remnant]

Finally got 4 SEUNs and crits

[thin wren]

dc wally for dragon ground dc

[normal parcel]

However I guess it shouldn't be that hard to 1m with 3/5 Hilbert

[severe mirage]

I'm so bad at these and no longer have the resources to power anyone up 😦

[normal parcel]

586k so far is my best

With 1/5 6ex Hilbert

[thin wren]

it still feels weird seeing serebii in the dc channel....

[thin wren]

wdym by bad at these btw?are you missing most of the units which are optimal in the last few dcs?

or are you lacking move levels

[severe mirage]

lacking move levels

and no longer have any move candy as I powered up for prior ones

[long silo]

So I think I figured out 3/5 SC Barry in theory

But potentially expensive and heavy RNG

[prisma quail]

A little better

[long silo]

Requires 2 SEUN Proc from SC Steven

And 4 Sync Crits from Barry

And the ability to handle all those time wasted

[tired narwhal]

Wait is the Serebii in here the one who owns the website?

[orchid notch]

I see a lot of blue + melony, is it better than redlax + ncrosa ?

[long silo]

So potentially HS1 on SC Steven and BP Barry too

[prisma quail]

I despise this game mode utilizing real life timers.

It makes a lot of the really powerful units with debuffing and buddy moves bad, due to animation times. It limits fun.

[long silo]

Hello Serebii

[prisma quail]

Zapdos + Meloetta is probably best

[orchid notch]

How so

What is zapdos providing

[prisma quail]

Master passives, para/sync combo, instant max buffs for genesect

[orchid notch]

Aye forgor about master passive

[nova remnant]

Support sync + fast spark/crit buffs + gauge + para + 20% sync power

[prisma quail]

Sing is the fastest animation to fail, so the new strat is to paralyze then fail sings

[orchid notch]

Yeah but redlax can para on body slam and seun bug ig Hilbert already has

[prisma quail]

Blue uses discharge to paralyze (and maybe flinch) once, then uses TM to max Genesect crit and Satk (and add +2 smun)

Genesect sets rebuff and lowers enemy Sdef.

Meloetta spams sing.

[orchid notch]

Anyway im not spending 2 candies on hilbert so ill just prayge some dark barry strat appears

[prisma quail]

The rewards from this mode are thankfully minimal

[pallid girder]

It looks fine. I dropped some spatk and picked brainteaser tho.

[sour lark]

I do appreciate having more Fields and Sprints for the Rally tho