#Damage Challenge
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P.Serena is fast and got paralysis
Hilbo can drop spdef
If you somehow have enough gauge, stun spore can be spammed
P.Serena new meta
Got 1 SS Hilbert from SS Hilda/SS Hilbert/SS N triple banner
Got 1 SS Hilbert dupe from 72 hour banner
Might end up spending 1 tech candy because apparently the game wants me to have SS Hilbert
Imo he solve all your bug issues 
Caked is amazing
Maybe best from your roster... but a lot of SS Hilbert goodies are in 3/5 grid
I agree
Gotchu, so I would need to candy
Too bad SS Hilbert’s sync doesn’t work like Alt Gloria’s
both limited pairs, sc ingo and holiday viola
So , basically I replace Barry with Melony and use SS Hilbert and Chase again.
I still find it funny the only reason I discovered Chase was because I do not have a bug zone unit.
Would Chase have still been discovered? Of course, it is too good a unit to go under the radar for too long.
I wonder if we still have some hidden gems being overlooked.
Probably, things change
Like, sadly, I couldn't see a full invested Brycen Man 
SS Brock >
Well, first 3/5 Ex Dc unit
How is Weavile?
Good , honestly i went for who could perform better for me in lg
zamn
oh I just grabbed a bunch at 1/5 for rally ._.
Most people do that I believe
i'm 3/5ing units first personally
ST Bug might as well be a skip DC for me lol
i do have 3/5 exr gilbert but . . .
hm. i wonder if he can cut it
no zone or anything though
probably better than my 5/5 Noland EX
Wrong channel
perhaps melony sing spam will allow gilbert to handle it with ease
need alder to have an MF so i can have a good bug type lmao
what's that you want MF Benga, and make Alder more irrelevant? Say no more.
i'll take it 

was there any info about the next DC Ranked ? 🤔
3 80% sync damage reduction stages time
Slap a mf passive on volcarona, and there
slapping mf passive on Alder won't solve his issues lol
give him critical strike 10, move gauge refresh 9, and make his attacks cause confusion so we can give him charging confusion 9 :V
How do I get 1mil with Marnie?
1/5 should be enough to get 1m
@last stream I'm jealous of that custom emoji :bugsno

how to push further i wonder
pushed to my limit I fear
Off topic question: Who has theoretically the high sync damage ceiling? SS Silver (3/5) or NC Red (3/5)? Assuming optimal conditions and setup for both
bug single this reset right?
Red
Tech ex role
No base nerfed bp
2 full multipliers and a 50% under hail
yall think its possible for akari to hit 2m at 3/5 (without the sync crit grid tile)
SS Silver is with sneasel
also my blue and melony dont have head start 
i'm only hitting a little under 1.1m with that comp
from what I can tell its getting one more sync in, and them being crits, which comes down to lucky skills and luck
quite a bit longer than that
ignoring stuff like super good gear
next reset is aug 4 and bug single is aug 6
oof i misread that as aug 4
so optimal comp for solo bug should be chase melony right?
chase was tied with 2 others last time but sing spam wasn't common back then
pretty sure he's the quickest one at paraing among those 3
SS Hilbert is an Unova, so NC Rosa > Melony prob?
Master passive only affects dps tho
plus with chase there should be enough gauge
Yes but it does matter when you don't have time to rush another sync and have to do 1~2 DPS in the end.
rosa means 1 less sync tho
remember, if you want rosa's support buff as well you are gonna have to click her b move after syncing with her
which means 1 less sync
Maybe Rosa doesn't sync at all? I actually don't have Rosa so I don't the difference between her and Melony.
not to brag or anything, but I have base viola
3m club here I come
you lose a sync buff then and lose more damage
also master pair effect
the sync buff definitely adds up, if your team has the gauge for Melony then you should be losing her
master passive only impacting a singular move isn’t worth it
oh it’s not going to be
It's kinda funny to think that MF is worse than a general pool unit even tho it's just niche use in a niche mode lol.
how is melony better though? she has lower speed and less helpful other moves/skills
Melony can support EX safely, Rosa cannot
it's not, melony's sync buff is the tie breaker
you don't click the other moves/skills
chase compensates the gauge
so speed is not an issue
mf passive only applies to one attack
sync buff applies to the syncs as well
how is her sync buff any different? they're both support
Speed has never been an issue to the point where you could get an extra sync move with Rosa, Melony teams still hit 7 syncs and that is the Rosa standard anyways
Rosa cannot sing spam after sync because of form change
B move takes about 15 seconds to finish which loses you a sync buff
oh shit thats right I forgot about the form change bs
if you sync with her she has extra animations and then form changes so you can't click sing until you click her long sync again
back in my day pokemon didn't have form changing abilities, it was just intimidate or whatever *shakes cane at clouds*
back in my day we used these weird microphone things to raise stats
Errr technically form changing is from day 1, Aegislash can change between Shield Forme and Blade Forme.
I was talking about pokemon in general, but that too ig
@weak copper
I would like to thank the discord for the method
I'm gonna get kicked out of top 100 at this rate 
Which is better for DC?
2 for me better
SE1 is trash cs2 always better
the only real options here are superpowered 3 and CS2
Super powered 3 best of all
and adrenaline / head start on supports
And better use melony not elesa
Since corlles para all and they dont move fast and melony sing spam
I will use Redlax and NC Rosa
You can use lax for para blue yes and his tmp for karen
I don't have melony
Then you need sync whit rosa and insta come back from it for sing spam
You mean second grid right?
Yes

You dont need boost moves you sync spam sing
Yeah I will do that!
Okay thankyou all! 
Which gear should I use akari's feather for?

Next one is single bug 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That will be awesome
i dont think i will even cross 200k in that
Our F2P Bug Tech is Viola and her nuke requires Trap and that adds time 
Even SC Ingo has the same nuke condition 
Our best option is likely going to be SS Hilbert
Pretty sure Guzma has better nuke than Viola for f2p
H. Viola supremacy
Viola has no attack stats
Guzma's First Impression just turns off even if you sync right?
If you don’t use any move or Tm, you still can use it after Sync
It'd be a waste of his Initial Propulsion 2 on it thk
At least for f2p we have better team now
3v3 steel, and still no sign of tech EXR Glora 
Oh yeah my best steel is MC solgaleo for 3v3
Hope anni has a good steel type
mega Aggron 🤣
or, you pray for EXR for Steven/Cynthia/Lance
i have none of these
same
i think a few people with Grimsley for nuking wouldd hit 1m with just Redlax and Colress. maybe.
yeah i guess
Yeah, I would use my Pal Marnie if I have to for 3v3
hmm forr me, Solgaleo + SC Selene
Solgaleo only has Haymaker for sync damage, which is easy but needs +1 Crit if you have expanded grid + spam it twice
Steven can sure crit, just gonna have that TM refresh.
ST steel is gonna be so funny, Colress 
actually, MAYBE you can do colress here o.o
Fun fact, Colress has a tile that does -2 acc every time he syncs and its AOE. F2Ps are gonna be eating good for ST Steel
He can't grab all of his nuking tiles that way tho.
hrrm its quite a nuke package 😮
DeNA should implement Piercing Gaze and Status Immunity next set of DC events
his smokescreen nuke sshould only really need -1 acc Hmm.
oh wait
nevermind i thought it was a sync modifier
Just swap TWave MGR for Go Viral since it's 3v3 and then you can grab an extra nuke tile but you need +9 sync expand
Grimsley has better sync nuke, but Colress' nuke is higher if you have Redlax + SC Selene
max70 for colress/
the Internet Exploxer dude has 0 self buffs
wait nvm i forgot about Colress' innate
truly 
Are we talking about 3v1 or 3v3?
both i think
hm. yeah i think i'm going to try Solgaleo and then Steven for later
Colress MIGHT be better than Grimsley if you get enough dodges from his accuracy drops to weave another sync in
But Colress really needs the buffing help
Hilbert could cover everything he needs tho.
Okay I will take it! 
Maybe I can try with charging infliction on NC Rosa, for Sync Power Flux on Karen!
But nah
it will drop my score I guess!
oh wow Steven Metagross is likely going to be my best choise for 3v3 Steel TT
at least he can ensure some sync crits
solgaleo erasure
isn't solgal unironically better
I dont think so. Metagross has more sync multipliers, higher Atk, sync crits and this:
Sync Defense ↓ All 2
Lowers the Defense of all opposing sync pairs by 2 stat rank(s) after using the user’s sync move.
only the sync BP is lower
Ig HViola might have the chance to hit 1M with 2.7x sync multiplier + zone + 1.5x tech sync, but her setup is indeed problematic (Power Play).
She can para right?
who looks to be the strongest unit for steel aoe
She can para and confuse at the same time
fuck me running I can't scrape this last 70k with cmarnie
I'm at 930k and I wanna get this to 1m so I don't have to think about it again
Should be Rose
I was gonna reply "don't Metagross and Solgaleo both only have Haymaker?" then I realized Metagross got Tough Sync 3 upon expansion
really hope Solgaleo is enough for 1m, I don't even want to think about single
seriously, single DC sucks
single should get a 1.5 point boost
You sleep the opponents? The sing/dark void spam is the same as twave/sspore spam. You para the opponents first and spam a failed move with (almost) 0 animation.
except sleep dissipates in about 3 seconds
so you get the anim every third move or so
no, you always paralyze them first and just spam sing to have it fail
single is kimono grimsley
I don't feel it much different than the normal Barry/Colress strat but that's just me
I intend to go Colress if single anyways
but he doesn't self buff well
so maybe Grimsley
I hope Summer Tate's passive dmg outdo its time loss :/
Finally I got 2m with Marnie
there we go, finally
1m done
AoE Dark joins AoE Dragon and AoE Ghost in the "never touching this again" pile
Who is on top now? Marnie + Cyrus, or Akari?
However I predicted right that it wouldn't have been undisputed Akari domination and that Marnie wouldn't have been much behind (by herself)
bug ST on tuesday
...Oh no.
Guess I have to use my candies
same
Theres no way I can get 1m without 3/5 SS Hilbert
yeah i was lucky enough to get an SpDef drop on Cmarnie early on so she dropped to below 33% HP towards the end
Doubt guzma can do it
Does the Cyrus clear make use of Marnie b moves to recharge gauge for Cyrus?
No
Can really Cyrus sustain spamming 2 gauge dark void without Marnie using b move?
I guess the debuffing animation helps with gauge
However I'm fine with my NC Marnie, NC blue, melony 2m
Don't have Cyrus, and probably is also an RNG heavy clear
Well Marnie always uses B Move in every sync cycle
Eva gaming time!
So she does, I thought it may have been necessary to use b moves to help Cyrus regenerate gauges
You should specify Scyther too! 
Wondering if fury cutter DPS, may be te f2p way
Fury cutter should be quite fast and spammable
And then it misses
Isn't the 4th fury cutter already at full power?
However Guzma sync is still better than nolan one
you do run out of gauge if you spam only dark void yes, that happened in my run
just slows you down a little bit
Yes because I tried it with melony and I noticed that her b move can help refilling gauge while also needing one less sing, so I assume with Darkrai an use of Marnie b move should basically refill the whole gauge
Isn't just better use the b move at least once then?

i candied my SS hilbert recently
as a matter of fact i just 5/5d it 
rebuff utility is nuts
I have him 1/5 exr
he's just tedious
your first sync with him is either at +3 spatk or he has another someone buffing him
and you need to minimise spdef on top
or you waste a SEUN which leaves you banking on redlax getting mpr
Never forget the day where they announced that SS Hilbert would be massively buffed just because of a description mistake
2022
what month?
Hm makes sense why I don't remember now, I didn't even have him at that time
(only reason why mine is even 5/5 now is I've used 4 tech candies on him in the past 2 months 💀)
DeNa: here's ssHilbert, the unit that can rebuff enemies the first time they get hit.
Player: wait, why can we only do this to one opponent?
DeNa:.... wait, we meant the first time the MOVE IS used.... uhhhhhh. Ah screw it, we'll do as the description states
Ss hilbert can now rebuff every opponent the first time they get hit.
And then DeNA reverts it back to only activating once
And only works on one enemy
Nope, never did for the past 2 years
but the unit now gives a x10 type rebuff (break the limits)
He is still able to rebuff everyone
I was doing sarcasm, but ok
Imagine sarcasm without italics
Cough a little next time
So strikethrough isn't enough for you, huh?
How about Strike Throughout
Such a nice grid for 3v1 Steel sync nuking
Nah it's not optimal
Why not?
- isnt TWave MGR bad? its extra animation time
- you are missing 1 purple sync tile
- you will need to use OG Hilbert anyway for full Attack & Crit buffs, and he can do +2Def .. no need for sentry entry 2
"SC Selene" no one has that 
Actually you can just go +8E
Hi Im no one
You die
Just 80k 
I have over 600K orbs after spending a lot already
and I buy 100K every month in rally shop
Can I borrow some unused orbs?
I might need them for a couple of ranked events, imma give them later
Im doing fine
I'll probably use Colress - Hilbert - Redlax/Steven for 3v1
Redlax gives you 2 Supp syncs, but Steven gives rebuff...
Rebuff feels like it's better
How about Melony 
Good amount
You are not gonna need another rebuff tbh
So much richness over here 
why does her para have to also do confusion. That lowers her sync spam potential
her sync has para 
Why is confusion bad?
because it wastes time
what does that mean?
How? It doesn't show up before every move like in mainline, and it can deny moves
it does lol
1 rebuff 30 %
2 rebuff 50%
3 rebuff is around 60% and Hilbert already applies a rebuff (2 if 5/5) by himself
Oh rip
OG hilbert, not ss hilbert .. this was for 3v1 steel
ss does nothing for colress lmao
It does? Dang i have not been paying attention
she has great potential for bug st then
Bug nc blue ss hilbert and melony/nc rosa
The best combos
Or hilbert melony/nc rosa and lax or bug zone seter viola?
She can para and set zone
Ig HViola - SSHilbert - sing spam
Chase/H.Viola - Melony - SS Hilbert
H viola - SSHilbert - Rosa or Melony bc Rosa has master passive up for reg move
In 3v3 the best team is SS Hilbert - BP Barry - HViola and that's when we haven't found out sing spam yet
My 1/5 Viola will have to do her thing 
@pallid girder I followed your frog/redlax video and yet somehow come up short and the other times my timer runs out begore I can get off a 2nd sync with middle. Any advice?
Yeap rosa can be better unova
Yes but I was wondering about the non ss Hilbert havers
Plus she can give sump up from tmp
ScIngo but watch out for trap
Non hilbert are cooked
??? You prob tag the wrong person. I didn't do frog/redlax.
I usually consider Melony better than Rosa (for non psychic/fighting), because hassle-free Supp EX >> master passive
3/5 Hilbert should be enough for 1 mil right?
Burgh is a mess to setup
no bug zone but I have Chase
the thing is that if you use H.Viola instead of Chase/Blue - is there enough gauge?
my bad you're right..sorry overtired and sleep deprived lol
For 5/5 SSHilb havers, are you going for kekwalk or same setup as 3v3?
does h viola have bug accel
HViola herself as main dd has the chance, but you need find the right support to max Power Play
*bug zone gauge accel
Avery did 1M in psychic 3v1, with only 2x sync multiplier x 1.5 tech sync
HViola has 2.7x sync multiplier
no one has H.Viola at 3/5 😦
Will 4/5 non EXR Hilbert be ok?
He just needs 3/5 for his sync nuking tiles. 3v3 Bug is already over so EXR doesn't do much other than the extra stats
I'm still coping that Dahlia can get 5 Mil in Water 3v3 (also because I have 4/5 Dahlia..)
Either that or Adaman gets Strike role later
Outside of these I dont see any chance for a 5Mil (maybe SS Gladion can do it for Fairy 3v3 ?)
I don't have Dahlia, but I have trouble imagining her doing 5m with interference sync 9
I know that she has rain with extension, tech innate and insane attack stat, but 5m? With interference?
I mean theoretically yes she can
Yeah if it was like Brainpower or Brain Sync 9 - would be 5 Mil EZ I think (as long as perfect crit rng). But maybe can still work with IS9
Lucas with Strike would have been guaranteed 5 Mil, 200%
ah well
Just use unit with flinch and get it every time when she syncs. Just simple rng, right? /jk
Discharge is a bit slow
Who else can flinch?
Maybe NC silver but it summons sand at the beginning
I think you just use her Teeter Dance as late as possible and cope for the best. No flinch
She also lowers accuracy, maybe that can help
I'll try Chase - Melony - Dahlia
I guess in 3v3 confusion should last enough
she also has 50% of SEUN when using a move, so using TD can be good
However confusion wears off pretty fast
TD isn't super effective
And using muddy water is quite slow
ooh so this wont work
Superduper 4
Has a chance (50%) of applying the Supereffective ↑ Next effect to the user when its move is super effective.
yeah
so at most you can get 1 SEUN on the last Muddy Water, for just 1 sync
If you have time to do so
I mean even using red tm costs time, and that has sync acceleration and just the super effective
Muddy water has the animation, it can debuff (so another animation) + superduper is another animation and isn't even an extra -1 to sync like red tm
At least muddy water contributes for damage
She has extension so she should be fine for rain
The main issue is that her sync multiplier is interference based
This extentio will run befor your 3 sync
Is extension 5 so it should be the same as field ex
You shouldn't use muddy water
Then you get hit all time
The problem is interference
SS silver sand I remember lasted the whole Battle (second sync)
Isn't it better to do 3 Muddy Water to -6 spdef anyway?
This way too problematic unit set up
4.08M
extension 5 WZT (same as field EX) can easily last for ~4 syncs here - it was like that on my Akari team
Even with Colress spam (which is slower than sing) - I had dark zone to the end
Don't know if dalhia can beat her, yes Cynthia is harder to properly setup, but at least she doesn't have to deal with interference
And she can get a super effective up next sync for every enemy sync
Dahlia TM once, Chase SpAtk ~twice (then maybe later TM once if need), Muddy Water 3 times, 2 Supp syncs, then use TeeterDance + Dahlia max move right before 3-rd sync.
And I usually use Chase circle before 4-th sync (also lasts to the end)
I expect Dahlia to break 4M for sure, maybe 4.5M even. Of course only with perfect crit rng
5M is the question
Missed only one sync crit,without sp3 around 1.8m seems like the max i can get from this team with most of the moves missed, only got hit by 2 psychic
Has anyone tried EXR SsCyrus for dark stage (sync to shave dark zone application time) ? 🧐
I try him whit chase
This way
Around 2,8-2,9m you can do it
Depend on miss def drops
Whit extention zone no issu its up too end
did just EX, he's very good as just dark zone setter
2.9m
With Marnie?
Yes
So is Marnie actually scoring more than Akari? (However with the help of Cyrus)
How you have 6 special up? You fish nc blue tmp?
Yes
Why not?
I just fish for MPR at the end
Good idea but skinny and others 2 jp use diffrent play
Shouldn't be +7 then?
They use marnie super up from protect
Isn't Marnie +3?
Oh Rafa did that too
Hi I'm no one
So boost last sync or b move
SC selene is bad for aoe
This also more like way off play
Ah wait the steel one
Yeah I didn't have enough for soften up so I went for adrenaline instead
I tought the dark one
Adrenaline you can keep but not soften up
Double bad break on cyrus for more chances of dropping sp def
And pray blue misses
I got 2 full paras on that run
And like 5 misses
For steel triple sc selene will definitely be my choice
I don't think I have a better AOE steel nuker than her
Aoe we have rose
Interesting
I'm not part of we
I am also not part of we with my 1/5 Rose...
At least you have it, I don't even have it
But you can use protect for last sync around 350/380k crits damage
Not that 1/5 will be that useful
wait... am I supposed to be using Raihan for steel aoe instead
I'm fine with my 2m clear as a non Cyrus haver
or is 3/5 sc selene still serviceable
I guess 3/5 SC selene should be serviceable
for aoe yeah it has to be exr
Hey maybe i just candy and cake rose
solgaleo though with selene as a supporting cast is probably good
Or maybe candy ss gladion
You can wait and see how Solgaleo performs before investing.
Ok
She has field ex and 190% sync multiplier, mega tax hurts (expecially with no tech innate and no attack buff from mega) but she has 4 sync nodes (however at 3/5 I think at most you can get 3)
Definitely not as good as rose, but she's serviceable
Metallic acceleration is also pretty good for melony shenanigans
I think selene sync is comparable to rose one if you add steel zone, but rose has the aoe max move
But I think selene wants 4/5 at least to get all the sync nodes
Next is the dreaded bug st
Pretty sure it will be impossible to get 1m with f2p damage dealers
this mode makes me want to invest on gears, if i randomly throw 10k yellow feathers will i get good stuff without a pin? xD or is it impossible without pins
I've used a few hundred feathers but have found skill gear so boring... in rerolling
How do the pins work? Are they permanent and do you lose them?
feels like throwing matches in a forest fire... thought i'd ask here instead of questions since I imagine most high scorers have actually acquired good gear?
They are permanent (but if you decide to remove it is lost)
Oh, then I'll never use these items
Yes you can get decent skill gears with just yellow feathers, but don't expect max stat, 3 themes and 3 good damage passives
Personally I try to get +80 and +20 ones with decent themes
Then if you get a good passive is even better
There aren't much viable passives however
Best ones are sync crit, sync paralysis, sync status physical/special sync and I guess if you get the version for the moves it helps too I guess (maybe if you have a good finisher)
ty for your insight, gonna try
and yeah i have like 6 pins... but have like probably 9 sets of skill gear? so math doesn't add up... i know when i have nothing to add in training i did get yellow feathers... cause i know i was gonna do this sooner or later
Someone suggested to pair 5/5 SS Hilbert with P-Serena (para + speed debuffs, plus she has great speed as well) + sing spammer (Melony). SS Hilbert can lower enemy SpDef on his own
Hmm i now who have him 5/5 exr🙂↔️
But i think h viola is better since have zone and para
cries in no H-Viola 
Or maybe the pal Serena idea if Hilbert is 5/5…..
Para need 1 so no need nc blue
And he have sync reduce acceleration for spam sing
And raise crit
So hilbert dont need use it
And eva up
And cirle
You set up hilbert way faster plus chase and rosa exr are sprints
Think this is if no viola best set up
will start with this comp outright before going back to Bug Zone (SC Ingo) and BP Barry
but... i need to sync with EX Support first, right? means i will use Rosa B move?
i do have exr on my NC Rosa, i'll try both then
is upcoming bug challenge Aoe or single target?
Melony is probably better than NC Rosa for Bug and for most types
saved time from not using B-move is better than the master passive (negligible damage)
Damn, my SS hilbert is at 2/5, dont think ill be able to do much (cries)
3/5 exr, i wonder if he can even hit 1m with that
His multipliers come at 5/5 so idk, dont think so.. if it was at 3/5 i would have candied him already
He has brainpower at 3/5 and that’s what most of us used in 3v3
I'll be cooking again with SC Barry because I really have no other choice
I feel like holiday Viola could 1m and I would candy her if it wasn't right near anni and I was hoarding candies as a result
Is your SC Barry 3/5? I want to see the result of it
I got Excavalier at 4/5 lol, if that ever works xD but yeah if not i might invest in SC barry, since i don't mind caking him and 3/5 him
hilbert just annoys me cause cakewalk and superslow is locked at 5/5
hopefully i can still get over 1m at least.
yep! He hit 1.4m on 3v3 with some really slow teammates so curious to see what’s going to happen with new strats
may have to try nc blue/gilbert/melony
i wonder. . . .

you can drop dauntless and +5 spa in the top right to do it without energy cap increases
I don't think any bug striker at 3/5 would perform better than SS Hilbert at 3/5 tho.
3/5 SS Hilbert has innate (2x) & Brainpower (2x) & 1 rebuff (1.3x) & -6 spdef w/o outside help.
And 2 SEUN without any help required
i get it, mine is still 2/5 though xD
so i tried running Cakewalk SS Hilbert - Pal-Serena - Melony, it was looking great, until i was running out of gauge at the end lol. the Enemy at -6 Speed was barely able to queue an attack in a whole sync cycle, which was great, but Sing spam was burning thru my gauge quickly as well lol. Also means no gauge for Hilbert Technoblast at the end. This is with Pal-Serena boosting everyone to +4 speed
If gauge isn't enough there's elio
just +4 speed without anything else is not enough for sing spam.
Even +6 speed isnt quite enough (and the less enemies attack - the worse it gets for your gauge)
You pretty much need +6 speed and and something extra like MGA or anything that boosts gauge during WZTC. Then you can spam 1 bar non-stop.
Either that or one of your pairs needs to be REALLY fast (like 450+ base speed)
The easy/lazy solution is just to replace Melony with BP Barry
If you're going to use bpBarry you'll likely remove pSerena
yeah was thinking of just going with BP Barry and replacing PSerena with someone else, then I checked my roster, who can debuff to -6 speed as quick as possible, and looks like i'm still going with PSerena
i cant go with NC Rosa coz the set-up for Cakewalk and Hilbert's Innate Tech is already too long, i cant afford to use Rosa B move and then revert back via syncing
Dojo Gloria got a quite fast speed debuff
And supp exr if you wanna go for 4 sync buffs
Maybe SS Silver? He -6 cd at most & have support exr.
ohh, Silver/Sneasel might be a good one
yeah, what i was thinking as well
too bad, cant afford to sink a support cake into him, but the sync accels are nice, and he just needs to drop -6 speed in 2 turns
Even better, he got also evasion
And bp barry has ppe so you don't have to deal w misses rng
Today is the day we farm HS1 and SP3 cookies!
One of the worst LG to farm those tbh 
Try pushing your streak has a better outcome than autofarming
It's more how AI works, some stages are easy but on Moltres they don't always respond to sun with weather
Looks perfect
ST will be way slower
Is it right that in 3v1 you can generally sync 1 more time than in 3v3 bc the opponent moves less?
Kinda ye
Triple have 67 plus 204 on the sides
Single just 204
There's a huge difference, even more if your para is single target and you're lowering their speed
And this time enemy has Seed Bomb 
No bullshit dazzling gleam?
It’s still funny Dena knew ppl would have to farm deluxe for the new content (dc), and threw the most obnoxious lg they have ever released 
is using a pair to max out Cakewalk actually better than just using a bug zone pair?
second most, worst is def latias/moltres/uxie
but anything with moltres would be really bad anyway
For SS Hilbert, they’re both roughly 1.5x boosts. One is permanent but has a long animation, while the other needs to be recast
Viola and Ingo both lack spammy moves though, since their moves both have debuffs
You would still be using BP Barry for para spam. And Viola has that passive that boosts paralysis proc chance by 50% ...
Imo this one is worst bc moltres latias uxie has separated gimmicks to all, this rotation there’s flinch overlap
but we’ll see
bulu without flinch isn't bad at all imo
Same result
But speed debuff on enemy is quite nice
what are the odds of hitting a triple paralysis w/ C. Blue using Hostile Environment from his grid?
45%
?? I must be doing something wrong then 💀
Sorry for ping as it might get lost but...
I got to 1m with 1/5 although I admit it's hard. I do like him tho so using candy to 3/5 won't be a problem. That said we'll see when ST Bug drops
is this for a single target getting paralyzed or is this really paralyzing all 3?
ok that sounds more realistic. still getting hella unlucky tho ig 💀
9%
9% unless you're me, then 1%
troublemaker only works with pure status moves
not damaging moves with status side effect
Oh okay
you do also have to know for certain that you actually need all 3 para'd in one turn before grinding for it
I just need it to increase the chance of para proc
So my next question will be, what are the chances of a para proc
discharge base is 30%, hostile environment 2 multiplies by 3 so it would be 90% on just a single target
aoe penalty for 3 divides it by 2
so 45% per target
yeah ive been doing this for like 20 minutes now and not once have I seen a triple para lmao
Oh wait sorry I meant what are the chances of a paralyzed foe to not move
25% normally, with lessen paralysis 8 uhhh 5%?
ye super unreliable in any case
Thanks. Now I feel a bit better knowing that lol
Okay so how do I get 1mil with NC Marnie before the reset? I have her 2/5 EX
It's next reset don't worry!
You have more than 24 hours
just thought about it
Blue being added as a damage pair is really telling to me that this is gonna stay forever and be like a Daily Region Rotation / Trainer Lodge sorta thing
(before i thought it was gonna stay but you only get a finite amount of Damage Tickets, but now i imagine they'd refresh the rewards too come october when the first run is over)
plus idk why they'd put multiple copies otherwise
and monthly sync orbs
The pins have a document where people have posted their teams and grids along with video link!
You can check it for details!
Should I use this team or Red/Snorlax? I don't have many other options for dark types
Would suggest either Colress or BP Barry in place of DC Marnie to build sync
The dev letter last month did say it's a permanent feature and only the weakness constantly changes.

haha yeah easy…
i regret not taking my past dc’s seriously
my 3v3 bug and psyhic were below 1 mil
and i had ss steven/i couldve gotten higher with guzma
Rose with Selene setting zone I guess
Who is the 3rd? Barry?
3/5 Pmarnie has -3 def on entry
True, but mine P Marnie is just 1/5 which is why I don't think I will use her
I do expect P Marnie will shine a lot in 1v3 Steel
Guzma again...right?
Time to candy your Hilbert
just out of curiosity would costume selene (exred) be able to get 1 mil for steel triple?
hmm thats all i needed tp hear
to exr
and now to throw one candy for hilbert and selene since i got a sht load of them in my bag
I do expect Rose should be the popular choice for 3v3 Steel dc
yeah max move and can do iron heads when out of time
and tech exr
and one button self sustain
he does debuff -2 from himself
so no zapdos might hurt for sleep strats
And metallic surge 9
Oh yeah
Yeah, 1 million should be possible with Selene. But I think Rose will get the highest damage possible
Maybe we will see 5/5 Gloria too, since she gets rebuff
Selene will do way more than 1 MLN if invested
She has double full nuke multiplier and can grab up to 3 +25 nodes to make up for the nerfed mega bp
Up to 4 
Bruh I forgot
Selene + solgaleo is your play
How abt Colress
So you can use selene Zone and Red SEnext (if you have it)
I think can do well
Super prep too
and she got sync burst so she essentially has 2 SEUNs
Corless has single target sync however
I doubt that corless sync hits 3 times Harder than solgaleo
Almost 2m 👀
Colress needs max atk, crit, +2 def, Hilbert can cover that at least. Plus if you ran -2 acc/sync on Colress, you'd probably get enough dodges to compensate the lack of Support/Sprint
Colress has like 190-200% total sync multipliers, on a tech.
I can actually see him doing more than Solgaleo-Haymaker even on 3v3
In fact I dont think Solgaleo can even reach 1M
Morty wasnt much over 1M in ghost 3v3 and he had 2x 100% multipliers
true enough. plus hilbert can give himself evasion to facilitate eva strats
Isn't solgaleo just better? Mega sync with just the standard sync nodes is kinda rough, and his only multiplier is haymaker, so I guess maybe at 4/5 can be decent because of the defense debuffs with the syncs, but considering solgaleo is free 5/5 while Steven is a pokefair
steven got tough sync 3 as well
Ah yes, it was the 2/5 extra node, but still I don't think is enough to patch that mega bp
Steven has tough sycn 3, a lot higher Atk stat and he can ensure several sync crits. I'll use him over Solgaleo, though my Steven is 5/5 since 2020
Plus solgaleo is more self sufficient
However isn't soften up or build up, using tm wastes time
oh yeah and the -2 def on sync at 5/5. I'm pretty sure he will do more than Solgaleo, at least at 5/5
Not sure, it need external help to buff
but Steven will also struggle to hit 1M, or do it only barely
I guess he can go melony red if you want to fish for tm mpr
steven can do +6 Atk (with 1 MPR) and then just keep giving himself sync crits (also with TM MPR)
But you want a lot of MPR, and a lot of buffing animations
I guess it will just be better to max knuckle and fish for red MPR instead
Sure, but its still bette than Solgaleo IMO. The Atk stat difference is substantial too. And TMs dont really use THAT much time
also I dont ever want to reset for sync crits in 3v3, thats hell
Yes I guess the sure crit tm may give him an edge, if it doesn't costs you an extra sync
Overall sync damage should be quite similar between 5/5 Steven and solgaleo
Redlax + BP Barry should give you 6 total syncs comfortably IMO
so you only need:
1 Red TM MPR (if you use the replenish max move) + 1 Steven XAtk MPR + 2 Steven TM MPRs, to ensure all crits .. doable
also red will max out stevena crit anyway, so even if you miss a TM MPR - you can just get 1 normal 80% sync crit
However I don't expect much difference between 5/5 Steven and solgaleo
3/5 will just be inferior I guess
Maybe a bit kore reliable
However I think the true battle will be between 5/5 Gloria and Rose
Gloria is kinda like Steven, she has sure crit tm, but at 5/5 it gives seun too and also sync accelleration
Oh wait
Colress can shine in single steel dc
In st corless will be great
Still afraid 3/5 SS Hilbert would struggle to hit 1M.
He can definitely do it but I'm afraid it'd require really good rng like the Courtney run.
If 3/5 SS Hilbert can't who can? (Except 5/5 SS Hilbert)?
3/5 SS Hilbert should easily get 1M in Bug 3v1 wtf? why wouldnt he
you even have SEUN on the TM
confident in this grid for it
Well slow setup and crit rng?
no nc blue?
crit rng is fine for 3v1
gilbert's teammates will be blue and melony on my end
For 3/5 blue and melony are great
ye
- gilbert has exr for a little extra push in the form of 40 spa
With blue it only needs to use metal sound twice (unless they use x spdef)
He needs 5 turns to setup even w NC Blue.
Spdef drop *3 + bug rebuff + 1 TM to get SEUN
Sdef drop X2 and bug rebuff
The tm is kinda like using SC steven
3/5 NC blue drops def and spdef by 2
Oh I forget NC Blue has that
Unless they play dirty on him and they have x sp def
I just check and it uses x speed. The other moves are seed bomb and hyper voice so we're also safe from random debuffs eat time.
Yes it's prob not as scary as I think.
This is torturous without that soften up lmao
Ah well probably highest I'm trying with a 3/5 Akari
Could've probably gotten a comfy 1.750m if I had not missed a crit on Gengar
I wonder if 2/5 SS Hilbert can get 1M on bug single
This won't happen that often so feels good
wow that's way higher than mine, how are you getting those numbers? i have akari 3/5 too
i followed skinny's video
👍 will give it a peek after i finish at the gym, my team comp is the same too but i'm just getting under 1.1m
NC Blue Sync > Melony Sync > Akari Sync x5
2 support syncs, 3/5 NC Blue with the -2 def debuff after sync, and just sing spam
i see, forgot to give blue that node 
If neither Blue nor Melony has HS/Adrenaline, then you might be one sync short for Akari, but that should be enough to 1m
Yukure i'm guessing your Akari is 4/5 above?
5/5
figures haha
Her relevant nodes needed +10 lol
i should 5/5 her at some point
really big samurott fan after all
Yep you should
i'll probably wait until anni update, if they don't have any fields i might just use em since my candies has just been collecting dust
got them on both thankfully
Then it should be no problem
i presume akari just has a plain ole nuke grid
Yep
oh wow ok this is even better than my red and barry run i might give this a try
I've already run blue + melony duo for ranked DC but i thought SEUN would edge the red comp up
(tried red + melony but the gauge was a little too demanding)
Glad we got all these options for Ranked
Ye would almost need Speedy Entry on both
they got decently far though, it was late game when they started running out, which was a pleasant surprise
so i could see a speedy entry strat being possibly feasible
especially if you used them with a speedy damage dealer/nuker
That's what skinny used for the 1m Cyrus run
Until it goes back to the electric trio 
and i do wonder if Dena will eventually end up releasing pairs that are specifically good at DC ramping haha
but the evolving nature of status fail spam is pretty fun
ah yes: sprint masterfair pikachu
fuel economy 2 aoe thunderwave with propulsion 4 or something (but it works even on move fail)
DC Blue almost made it lol
Idk if they were just teasing us
yeah this node is just funny XD
attack move successful only....
50% would've been faster too probably since you only proc the passive half the time which is enough to sustain gauge
Oh wait that's his actual node? Lmao
alas it was not to be
funnily enough SS Nemona has infliction freebie 9 but she only has limited status moves
ss Hilbert time tmrw
who's going to do more though my 1/5 SSHilbert or is it guzma time again
so close
is Hilbert ex
me having most of the limited bug damage dealers (Alder, SS Hilbert, SC Barry, SC Emmet) yet still running Guzma on aoe because 1/5 moment
EX and EXR

worst bit of rng for this outside of sync crits is paralysing all three with one discharge
Only really needed to paralyze the middle, altho I make sure they also flinch lol
Also grats on the clear
further slowing down their gauge and the opportunity for para fails helps too methinks
but if it works it works
How does NC Blue help here?
On paper he does considering allows slotting both SEnext supp and steel zone since he's the one spamming TW
But he's also a slow spammer and that sucks
If anyone gets a good result with Colress here, he may be the one I'd use on 3v1 Steel
Have no doubt I will get well over 1M with Colress for 3v1 Steel, probably close to 1.5M
i was planning on using colress for 3v1 steel yeah
either him or kimsley who i forget i have
for Electric 3v1 - is there any realistic way to debuff speed for Cakewalk ?
you have SST red + NC Blue + Melony, but no slot left to debuff speed
and there's no way you're using SST reds b-move 6 times
How are my steel and fairy types for dc?
Turns out I'm getting another field candy pretty soon
5/5 Akari time 
We can do better with 5/5 Akari (this is with some status sync damage gears though)
Yeah gear difference is the limit
Skill gear in theory could have been good but the pins are so gross
I'd say pretty gud 
That's the thing the gear pins grind which is 
I'm mostly doing with some pre made gears you get from event
His nuke is at 3/5 so I'm pretty sure he can't
I did get a pretty good status cond and dark zone gear but that's about it
But I got my 2mil with favorite so that's just about enough for me
I’m on the fence between candying rose or ss gladion
I mean Hilbert nuke starts at 3/5, but his full nuke is at 5/5, 2/5 just adds basically nothing
If you plan to get nemona, she should be better
I’m sure I’ll fall to urges
I'm not so sure SS Nemona is better than SS Gladion
Gladion has better finisher I guess, nemona has better nuke i think
20 golden LC so far from the LG, no HS1 or Adrenaline for Melony 
The coming steel DC is triple and your 3/5 selene might easily clear 1M with that (maybe, i don't have her)
Selene may be 3/5 but she doesn’t have strike exr atm
Nemona arrives midway through fairy weak rotation 
Ye she's not a must have when you have ss gladion
She overlaps so much with ss gladion tho. Dena why did you design her like that
She is not a must have even if you don't have Gladion 
Well aside from being MF Fairy strike they have very different niches
her circle has no extension and its tied to the same move that sets sun (which ALSO has no extension). Thats gonna be jank
If you have either ssGladion or nyLisia you can skip easily
1.9× nuke vs gladion's 1.3× nuke
me with neither 
What would the best team be for 3/5 no exr sc selene and solgaleo?
There's also her custom ls
Btw her offensive stats are more balanced
Wdym balanced? It's lower than glad's
Yeah, imagine her mulyipliers with 500 atk 
I suspect her and Elio + Selene are some sort of rehash of half anni's pairs, as if they wanted to profit from those that couldn't afford Silver/Gladion at the time or joined later
Nemona's sync condition being linked to her Circle in specific is way more gated than Gladion's conditions though
I wonder if she'll have enough liberty within 2-3 circle applications
How would 3/5 exr nc silver do in 3v1 rock?
Stalled this one because I wanted some specific weaknesses, but here.
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Without EXing or candying any units I assume my best option for tomorrow 3v1 Bug is Guzma
Grimsley?
Silver's multipliers are tied to sand and circle. I'm guessing Sand wouldn't be up setting up 4 suppEX buffs.
I'd rather use the new Selene or ssDiantha, considering the other rock strikers also have lower bp since most of them mega.
Meant Guzma, sorry
they both begin with G and have a M in their names
It's Diantha's best role.
I’m due for a strike, tech, and support candy
I mean important for 1m clear in single target
Maybe check the calculator.
ssHilbert has access to innate and
+rebuff despite not being ex, might be higher.
Pray be mpr 
it's a good cake for her in any game mode
Next month i’ll cake her. For sure 
she should be highest for single target rock

Right, would be nice to get around 900k without spending a candy on SS Hilbert
Mainly because I got 2/5 SS Hilbert when not intentionally aiming for him so I have a gut feeling that I might get another SS Hilbert dupe from the free 100 pulls X)
That's how I got all 3 of mine. Wanted Victini ended up with 3/5 SS Hilbert and 1/5 SSN and eventually forced to pity the Victini.
Never got around to using 2 candies on it
I know the feeling
Wanted Ingo
Got 3 Redlax for 3/5
Had to pity pull Ingo
So there was a banner with redlax, ingo, and diantha. I got 3 dianthas and had to pity ingo
Too bad you got the worst of the three options ^^;
Is the next challenge rock?
marnie haver?
He smells more like an akari haver 
Skinny is still #1 for Dark 3v3
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1unwNqwt18yroGqlEpdcnvYBhpn7KdX-ZCD53vqiufzg/edit?gid=78541076#gid=78541076
There, I'm calling it here. I can never do what they do. I accept that.
what type is next?
alder 1/5? 😮
yep
Preparations are set
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please check the pins for documented clears
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no nc blue/chase?
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your best options are probably cutting cyruss from the team then
or could always try redlax as the third and see how cyruss's spam is
I don't think it's going to be spectacular though due to the extra dark damage taking up time
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with Redlax, Cyrus has no gauge to spam moves
copy any of the solo marnie dps comps if you cut cyrus
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zone gives just as much damage as seun does
Use Redlax for SEUN
the downside of cyrus is he really can't sleep spam, and doesn't provide a status to facilitate sleep spam
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Try to paralyse using Redlax body slam, then spam sing with melony, or NC Rosa
2/5 melony still gives you all of her accuracy tiles which is all you need
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melony can sync to provide a support ex, rosa cannot
if melony is not ex, use rosa for the extra speed
guzma or viola in bug st
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yep handily
also the smun isn't real for more than one move you aren't clicking relic song ever
I would say don't use NC Rosa's any other move!
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Other than sing spam
you better watch the recorded clear
yeah watch a clear, I am not a marnie expert since I don't have her yet
Late to the party on this one, just did a test run, should I do more runs or just leave this
you can go higher but you're under no obligation to
6 tickets or so more?
I think so
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Crazy how your "test run" is double my best after days of several attempts. That 3/5 difference...
Yup!
Paralyse before sing
And try to sync with Red!
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the desperation Gladion :<
I'm hoping that my 1/5 SS Hilbert is enough 
What’s the best team for this one?
1/5 Holiday Viola 
? It’s dark weak
SS Hilbert easy
Oh wait sorry we meant the next one on reset lol
Uhhh
NC Marnie so far
Yep her
Check the pins on how people did the clears
Just sync rush and then use her B move at the last second
Do you b move after each sync
it's better use her B Move every sync cycle
Ok
As much I wanna try an attempt on a non tech bug unit, I'll probably give Gladion a try since I rarely see him for players in DC
Also here are my other options
(Just Fantastique)
DeNA: everyone already has a tech bug unit: Gladion 
got sC Steven? :o?
No... (No Larry as Substitute as well) 
I’ll take it lmao
The Main team I have here is somewhat I'm not confident-ish despite EXR 3/5 Xmas Viola (tho I'll different Variations from other players here)
Who here would be crazy enough to try SC Ingo and his shitty trap set up 
Goodbye top 100. It was fun while it lasted.






