Damage Challenge

[icy pendant]

does it matter if my hau is 1/5

[thin wren]

what could I use as nc Blue substitute in that comp

[thin wren]

yes

[thin wren]

to display similar sync rush results

[icy pendant]

obviously it would matter for final damage but I don't think ss hau gets anything at higher move levels to change the speed of the sync spam right

[thin wren]

hau could probably make up for the b move difference with Melony

[fluid anvil]

if Hau is using his b-move 3 times - its definitely not hitting 7 syncs yeah .. also no Sprint

[thin wren]

power plant

[icy pendant]

does resetting terrain when it's already active take time?

[thin wren]

maybe I try redlax, ss hau and melony to test how fast this comp is?

[icy pendant]

because terrain is not dropping with that team

[fluid anvil]

power plant is also extra time

but you need it
even 6 syncs would be tight

[thin wren]

yes and you need powerplant to not require et unit

eh, melony is very fast

six syncs should be possible

[fluid anvil]

6 is probably possible, but maybe you wont have time for the final b-move after 6-th sync .. idk

[thin wren]

Ash trades in 90% + double rebuff powered hau syncs for an equal number of his own syncs + 800k to 1 mil from b bolt

is whimsical sync worth it?

[icy pendant]

I think Ash might get it off of the extra sync move ngl

[fluid anvil]

Ash would have 1 extra sync on Hau

[thin wren]

test it

[fluid anvil]

NC blue having Field would come in handy here lol

i dont have Hau. Maybe will test Ash tomorrow

[thin wren]

I am not sure if Ash gets in 1 more since melony is very fast

I was talking about Ash test

[icy pendant]

now Ash I can test

[fluid anvil]

Melony isnt the issue. Hau has to use b-move 3 times, thats so long.
whereas Ash wastes no time basically

[thin wren]

I can test hau, just want to know what support should I use instead of nc blue to display similar sync rush results

[icy pendant]

could you get by with Colress?

[fluid anvil]

colress is fine, but Melony is faster

[icy pendant]

because you don't need the offensive stats, you're not dealing any damage

[thin wren]

why 2 sync rushers?

[icy pendant]

oh I'm thinking both

[thin wren]

melony is faster

[fluid anvil]

no need for both

[icy pendant]

you use colress to sim aoe paralysis which is the important part from blue's kit

[fluid anvil]

getting Ash under 33% hp would be ideal, but its probably not possible

[thin wren]

does aoe elec enemy use x speed?

[civic island]

Also snatch enemy +2 speed, you'll have to

[thin wren]

he applies dg to himself unfortunately

[cloud timber]

yea you snatch whatever's there, i just didn't know what it was

[thin wren]

what would be the ash comp?

[icy pendant]

going to try nc rosa since idt melony has enough gauge for it

using nc blue as the third for the speed though I am considering sst red as well

also am I stupid or does discharge hostile environment 2 not work the good way

[cloud timber]

nerfed by aoe when that's a thing

[icy pendant]

well how do the para percentages work

[cloud timber]

30 * 3 is 90, divide by 2 for 3 targets

45

[fluid anvil]

Rosa has more gauge than Melony, but remember that u will have to "give up" Rosas Supp sync (to avoid her b-move), which is damage loss overall.
But then she can give Ash SMUNs, which is good

[icy pendant]

I still think I'm getting significantly less lucky than a 1/8 chance for full para

[hidden junco]

The damage guards are irrelevant

You could make Aegislash-Blade the tank and you wouldn't hit the threshold

The problem with damage guard is more so the animation time

[icy pendant]

yeah every singer not named nc rosa has 270 speed and she outspeeds them by 200, I think you'd lose a sync waiting for gauge otherwise

[cloud timber]

it's not 66% but they are strong enough to kill cyrus from 50% after his tms

i was attempting to abuse skill gear passives in pinch

[fluid anvil]

you wont have any gauge issues if using blue or chase anyway. Only if its redlax, then yeah

[icy pendant]

oh I missed it but 6 syncs plus a really powerful B move (7 sync buffs)

didn't even use his other tm for seun

[civic island]

Def the team I'll use

Hard part will be rolling those 3 para

[icy pendant]

true yeah static shock is going to want it

just under 1/8 unless you're me apparently

the annoying part of ash's team is he still needs to click thunder twice

[thin wren]

got in 6 syncs + b move in the end with ss hau as well. Just needed 1 para proc

should be possible without para proc tho since I messed up a little bit

[icy pendant]

yeah I got none, I feel like the two are going to end up being comparable which is good because I won't need to candy hau

[thin wren]

@icy pendant did you get close to 6?

*7

[icy pendant]

I could see 7 syncs with good para rng

[thin wren]

melony had 0 gauge issues

same

[icy pendant]

idk why my melony suffered so much but by the end of the fourth sync my gauge was empty

[thin wren]

I got in 4 sings at the end before I realised I had to b move because I wasn't getting to sync

[icy pendant]

oh hau gets turbo charge that's how

[thin wren]

hau also has +6 speed

[icy pendant]

nc blue was also giving +6 speed...

[raven saffron]

Insane score

(what are you all doing)

[icy pendant]

testing for electric 3 target

[thin wren]

he can afford melony so he saves 10 seconds there

[fluid anvil]

7 syncs (with Ash) should be the norm if using Chase, not sure with ncblue

[thin wren]

yes but hau does it while doing his set up so he isn't falling behind there

[icy pendant]

I'd try with Chase if I had circle extension...

[thin wren]

Chase loses 20% tho ...

hmmm

I could try Chase hau melony

[raven saffron]

Yeesh electric 3 target's gonna be annoying for me with basically only sst red. Bmove is so slow

[thin wren]

chase probably gets in 7 syncs with hau as well but that 20%....

[thin wren]

testing hau vs Ash

[rain copper]

I have 1/5 SS Hau

[civic island]

[thin wren]

wait redlax hau melony probably gets 7 syncs

wait nvm missing special attack not worth it

I wish I had nc blue .....

[thin wren]

what about other elecs

[rain copper]

3/5 SST Red... then EX Elesa

[thin wren]

I think hau blue melony could genuinely get in 7 syncs with 3 para

[civic island]

Ash n Elesa will be fine
NcBlue helps

[thin wren]

elesa with red will probably be your best bet

[rain copper]

With a singer?

Elesa's problem is her swtup

[latent plover]

Elesa nuke isn't bad

She sets her own speed

[civic island]

Elesa has just a boring Inertia setup

[latent plover]

And guarantees crit

[thin wren]

it's inertia and brawn sync right?

[civic island]

Y

[rain copper]

I'm aware, but using 2 TM already costs a sizeable time

[raven saffron]

🤝

[thin wren]

melony is so fast

[latent plover]

Well she wouldn't heal with full HP

[icy pendant]

not even tm, x items

do you gamble rather than tm? I guess this is 3 target so probably not

[rain copper]

There are aoe moves tho I'm close to 1 omni 1 tech candies soon but I'm going to spend them on Skyla if anni doesn't reveal any fav tech of mine

[thin wren]

when no enemies move she gets in a sync in 20 seconds for me

[civic island]

Also she has Agile Entry 2 📈

[thin wren]

Hau run probably gets higher imo but the rng....

you will need 3 para procs for 7 syncs

[civic island]

Og?

[thin wren]

ss

[icy pendant]

I give the slight edge to ss hau too but I'm coping that Ash drops a 1 million damage nuke at the end and that closes the gap

[thin wren]

I don't even remember what og hau does

[icy pendant]

og hau is at least a viable selection for 3 target because he's a strike...

[thin wren]

will it be 1 mil

[civic island]

Oh well ofc ss hau is going to be better than elesa

[thin wren]

I am comparing him to Ash

[thin wren]

do you have 6 gauges at the end of your cycle

[icy pendant]

yeah I used Rosa TMs to refill gauge and then drop 6 at once

[thin wren]

no et so not sure if final b bolt is a thousand

you will have a ton of smun tho

[thin wren]

it will depend on how much gap ss hau acumulates with his sync damage if they both get same number of syncs

[icy pendant]

I'm assuming I hit 6 SMUN and get SEUN into 2 rebuffs

this is into -0 spdef as well

[thin wren]

hau has 140% more multiplier from sync and his final web should do 200k(I had 4 smun at the end)

[icy pendant]

with 6 sync buffs (so for my 6th sync) I'm seeing roughly 200k per target

[thin wren]

lemme get hau calcs in

[rose basalt]

so whats this melony strat now

replacing barry/colress with melony

or use them together

[thin wren]

melony is the fastest sync rusher in the game

by a good bit as well

problem is gauge

so only in comps like ss hau can she truly shine

[neat raft]

(problem of no charging infliction or free move next like Colress)

[icy pendant]

failing a sing (not missing, not succeeding, failing due to the target already being affected by a status condition) just requires gauge sustain to be able to shave several seconds per sync

[sturdy pebble]

RIP me, he's the only Tapu I bave

[raven saffron]

Could've been elio with his propelling move but 90% accuracy sing 💔

[icy pendant]

propelling move is slow too

[rose basalt]

so you have to pair her with ss hau or something

[thin wren]

are you assuming double support sync first?@icy pendant

[icy pendant]

I just used my clear which was single support sync

[thin wren]

or et being up. Et also fails sing very fast

[neat raft]

if u can get the entire team to 6 speed stacks it might be spammable

[thin wren]

I did 2 support syncs(you can barely get in a hau sync before et ends with para) so I am gonna assume 7 sync buffs for my final sync

[thin wren]

you also require something else

if you wanna use melony

[icy pendant]

thing is I was there with my team, Melony's base speed is just so slow

[thin wren]

rosa can do it with just+6 but has to b move to change forms if you use her sync

[icy pendant]

or sync twice, which is... yeah

[thin wren]

my ss hau team had 0 gauge issues because hau has turbo charge and+6

[sturdy pebble]

Does MGR make you lose time?

[neat raft]

someone who can inflict para?

[thin wren]

Yes

[icy pendant]

mgr fails because the move never succeeds

[thin wren]

no, some other gauge boosting with speed

Chase Ash could probably afford melony

[sturdy pebble]

Could Melony be used with SSTR

[thin wren]

@fluid anvil I remember you suggesting chase. Do you have chase and ash. If so could you test the speed of chase Ash and melony when you have time

[thin wren]

sstr has kekwalk and his b move is slower than hau at setting up kekwalk

[neat raft]

elec will be my worst nightmare since i skipped almost all elec units in existance for a long time

[thin wren]

you also need to avoid his tm like the plague

team grad heal is so bad

[cloud timber]

elesa will be alright tho

[thin wren]

but yes if you do these then sstr should be able to use melony without issues

[cloud timber]

elio provides attack buffs

[thin wren]

whenever I have the optimal dd for dc I am missing the best enabler

[thin wren]

oh right he's probably gonna be better for sstr

[calm anvil]

I don't think I can surpass my score

[thin wren]

is there a section on the utility doc about sync spsmmers

[icy pendant]

there is in https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CCTxz0TX-y_D-Z5Dd0fJpBIdC-TXa2RoPDpLhJhcFlg/edit#heading=h.r7eyneajvu8d

it's maelmc's doc, I've just had it open this whole time

[cloud timber]

unfortunate thing about elio being mpr1 on his tm when you need it

20%

[civic island]

Standars setup ssHau is going to deal almost twice Ash sync dmg
At +6 energy cap even more
Ash still has that SEnext but won't change much the outcome

[sturdy pebble]

I had the optimal team once I think

[thin wren]

wait blue also has turbo charge lmao

melony is gonna have 0 gauge issues

[icy pendant]

oh yeah Ash straight up uses SEUN on a sync move because the B move nearly maxes out anyways right

[thin wren]

problem is to get an equal number of syncs ss hau needs 2-3 paras which is a bit cringe

[civic island]

Spamming on ET is faster and you also have the enemy at -6 speed
Everything else is up to rng

Hmm what are they buffing

Hope not xspeed

[thin wren]

giving hau 7 sync buffs for final sync

can anyone check pld

*pls

imo a doc should have a list of all dc enemies

[latent plover]

Hau's syncs should still be stronger even if he only gets 6 syncs

[thin wren]

he gets more

because he can afford melony

so he gets in a second support sync buff

[latent plover]

Then Hau > Ash

100%

[civic island]

It is xSpeed so you need 4 bmoves

[thin wren]

oh

you are gonna need 4 paras

*3-4

[icy pendant]

only 4?

[thin wren]

I messed up a sing , got 1 para and was 4 moves away from sync 7 in my test

1 para to make up for 1 b move

[icy pendant]

still though if hau syncs for double what ash does then you can probably outdamage with one fewer sync

[thin wren]

2 more to go enough time

[thin wren]

hau also gets more sync buffs in nc blue comp. I am curious about chase comp tho

[icy pendant]

chase comp also hopefully has dodges mixed in there

[thin wren]

maybe chase comp could do something for ash to allow for melony?

[icy pendant]

chase does have gauge accel...

[thin wren]

yeh

also speed buffs

I am gonna wait for jerjok to test for chase comp

[thin wren]

did you give enemies 83 sp def

[icy pendant]

ye

I don't touch the damage calculator except for dc so I have those set from awhile ago lol

[thin wren]

yeah I am getting close to double

[icy pendant]

yeah I think over the course of multiple sync moves constantly doubling me is going to add up to over a million difference, even if you don't get a final b move off

[latent plover]

Hau being double Ash's damage?

[civic island]

Yes

[thin wren]

Idt blue comp catches up to

hay

*hau

[icy pendant]

oh no soften up though that might suck

[thin wren]

but chase comp maybe? you lose 50% multiplier on sync

but gain 1 extra sync buff

and easier Melony

[icy pendant]

there's a real chance I'll just have all the options for electric 3 target so I can always run the numbers then

[thin wren]

I am sure with 2-3 para both comps get to 7 syncs. Question is if chase comps get in 1 more sync

[icy pendant]

can you get sure crit on all your syncs? because ash has that innate

[thin wren]

Does anyone have invested ash and chase?

actually yk what, to check for sync rush you don't need 3/5 chase

Just give him exr

[thin wren]

no

it's gonna be rng hell to compare them

[latent plover]

I have EX R Chase but 2/5

[thin wren]

when is aoe elec anyways

[thin wren]

With invested Ash?

[latent plover]

Yeah 3/5 EX

[civic island]

Early sept

[latent plover]

No extra energy

[icy pendant]

I'm testing at those move levels rn

[thin wren]

ok can you test how many syncs you get in with chase, melony and ash. Click circle before first Ash sync and again before his last sync @latent plover

to emulate time from extended circle

[thin wren]

miraidon gonna powercreep them both by then fr

[icy pendant]

chase comp can definitely do the same 6 + a seun b move

ash's seun is just so long...

if you get crazy dodges I can see 7 though

[civic island]

Probably, both electric stages being so late is sus

[icy pendant]

they're just going through the types in order starting at points after electric

[thin wren]

I see 7 with just 3 para

[icy pendant]

true either full para or full dodges, my run wasn't kind with that

also if ash didn't need to click stupid thunder he'd be in a better spot

[thin wren]

ss hau only had 4 sings left for 7 and I messed up so my one para cancels out

I wonder if chase comp gets in 8 syncs

that's gonna be the difference maker imo

both can get in 7

but hau can't get in 8

[icy pendant]

yeah you probably don't click a lot of chase's tms then

[thin wren]

yeah let's go is slower than just spamming melony sing unless gauge is down

[icy pendant]

just roll on +3 evasion or something, idk

[thin wren]

melony sing is very fast

@icy pendant how many seconds did you need per sync

[thin wren]

problem is if enemies have aoe moves and hit you chase slows you down...

Does a doc have a list of all dc enemies with moves and tms?

I feel like that would be really helpful

[icy pendant]

my last sync I cycled through in something like 15 seconds

[civic island]

Absol datamine
https://pastebin.com/j7AmVH5t

[thin wren]

it's a bit hard to use for dc stages

[thin wren]

same. You think you could test for 8 syncs with chase?

using melony

[thin wren]

what aoe moves do enemies use in aoe elec

[civic island]

Heat wave and air cutter

[icy pendant]

my gauge is not sustaining anywhere near long enough without extension so not until I get 3/5... I'm also still only at 6 syncs

[thin wren]

ew

[icy pendant]

also the run where only chase got hit 4 times was comical

[thin wren]

gonna suffer from burn rng and 2 aoe moves

dodging will be cringe

if chase gets hit then it's a time loss

[icy pendant]

two moves with less than 100% accuracy...

[thin wren]

I would test it for you with my 3/5 exr Chase with circle mg accel and extension but.....I don't have Ash unfortunately

[thin wren]

but it's 2 aoe moves

and one can burn

[icy pendant]

nah I'd dodge

[thin wren]

Gl

[icy pendant]

as long as there's an opportunity to dodge someone will do it

[thin wren]

I wonder who will suffer through rng hell and do it

[pallid girder]

I mean I'm pretty sure the top scorer of previous DC all suffered through the rng hell

[sullen zephyr]

7 syncs but only 790k, that's lower than my score on the ST fighting rotation with bea (900k)

[pallid girder]

Btw regular Dragon 3v3 now reached 4.4M. It surpassed the previous highest score of every DC

[thin wren]

4.5 mil soon hopefully

nate having the highest dc score ever for a while would be nice

[sullen zephyr]

Does the ranked dc keep your highest score for each stage?

Looks like it doesn't

[cloud timber]

only your highest total

[sullen zephyr]

So if you reset a stage you should try to reach at least the previous best, otherwise you'll lose that

[cloud timber]

yep

[true locust]

Its same rule like hse

When reset its gone

Need do again same or more

[tiny mist]

How

what are they even using

[rain copper]

That's the neat part

We don't know

[tiny mist]

I managed 3.4mil on my own

[rain copper]

Unless they post the team somewhere on internet

[tiny mist]

I can go upto 3.7 if I max my units but thats the extent of it

[eternal pecan]

Insane para luck is probably involved too

[tiny mist]

Yeah i m saying 3.7 mil with para luck

May b if enemies dont attack bcz of para on atleast4 turns then i can cross 4 mil

[eternal pecan]

Maybe

I’m just looking ahead here to check my roster, who seems to be the best for single rock?

NC Silver was great before but for triples so it might be SC Diantha

I wonder if there’s any damage challenges where it’s going to be impossible to get 1 mil +

[long silo]

[pallid girder]

Yes Rock 3v1 will be SS Diantha. She's basically the rock version of Courtney but way better.

[thin wren]

we don't know for sure but probably Nate, Bianca and colress. Only team to cross4 mil so far

[pallid girder]

Alternatively I think Gordie and Paulo can both reach 1M w the right setup.

[thin wren]

we already had the worst type in ground st so no

[normal parcel]

What options has fairy st? Besides pal Serena I think most fairy tech have devastation as sync multiplier

[pallid girder]

SS Wally.

[normal parcel]

SS wally has devastation too, but I guess it can setup it with his b move

[pallid girder]

Basically for ST check their WTZ setters first and see if it's a tech nuker and good at setting its own multipliers or not.

[normal parcel]

However wally has Gobsmack 4

[brisk shale]

+tech exr volo

[normal parcel]

But I guess is more an added RNG that something that makes him less viable

[cloud timber]

ye like courtney isn't going to outperform ss wally

[pallid girder]

He has some crazy -cd so it's easier to fit in more syncs with him.

Courtney doesn't have that.

[normal parcel]

Wally can even get max.devastation by his own?

[pallid girder]

Yes. Bmove + Discourage 2.

[hybrid lagoon]

WAIT..... ANY VID OF THIS!??

[sacred badger]

1mil with Cyrus D:?!

[long silo]

They haven't posted unfortunately

[sacred badger]

INteresting team choice 😮

[hybrid lagoon]

Why SSTR tho

[cloud timber]

yeah sst red there is wild

[sacred badger]

-6 SP.DEF prolly

[long silo]

Melony Sing Spam apparently is the fastest under Electric Terrain

[cloud timber]

you can't use his b move at all

it's extremely slow

[long silo]

Oh wait ye

[hybrid lagoon]

Dayum

[long silo]

Well still faster compared to either Colress or Barry

Idk if it's someone here but

https://youtu.be/HUKrSTilXbE?si=s13N77cXdZvnaOSL

[hybrid lagoon]

How tho.. U have to use bmove for that right

[long silo]

Sample run

[normal parcel]

Even if the opponent is already paralyzed?

[true locust]

He need be para

So it fail and its faster then

[cloud timber]

terrain isn't speeding anything up but electric terrain also prevents sleep

better to not even set it

[crude sandal]

Doesn't para prevent sleep already?

[cloud timber]

yes

[normal parcel]

Yes i mean electric terrain takes precedence over is already paralyzed?

[warped gulch]

Time to find new weird way to play

[cloud timber]

yeah

[normal parcel]

The point is to prevent sleep, otherwise why ever running tbolt red?

[cloud timber]

no idea

sst red is not supposed to be the best

in this mode

and he doesn't even provide gauge

[normal parcel]

I guess the idea is that spamming sing in electric terrain is the fastest spam

[warped gulch]

He does, kinda

[crude sandal]

Doesn't Red have Turbo Charge?

[warped gulch]

But idk how skinny provide enough gauge for Melony tho

Even Rosa has trouble to spam sing with 1 Tm

[cloud timber]

no turbo charge

no speed buffs

[warped gulch]

He has in his passive

[normal parcel]

I mean spamming the fastest sings without any kind of propelling is kinda unfeasible

[cloud timber]

oh

[pallid girder]

With this knowledge SST Red will prob be the best in Electric 3v1 DC, and SS Hau in 3v3 DC

[cloud timber]

i looked there but i didn't read it fully

[warped gulch]

That why is so weird tho

I must use NC Blue for +6 speed all team

But idk how SST Red can provide gauge

[normal parcel]

Elio can definitely keep up with gauge, but propelling 5 stalls a bit of time

[cloud timber]

well sst red still has instant para with max move and has max countdown on top of that

so with that and gauge under terrain

[warped gulch]

That why i used him

[cloud timber]

that's about all he provides

[warped gulch]

But with Rosa

Bc Rosa can buff speed herself

[normal parcel]

Electric terrain and turbo charge

I think using sing in electric terrain should be faster

[warped gulch]

Ofc

But

How SST Red gives enough gauge is the question

[normal parcel]

For some reason there are different speeds depending on how the move fails

[cloud timber]

hard to get a straight comparison

[crude sandal]

All skill gears can provide speed right?

[cloud timber]

if you could stop them from moving it'd be easy to tell

[normal parcel]

And even against paralyzed opponent sing can still fail due to accuracy and that's slower

[normal parcel]

Only pin I think

[cloud timber]

only pin

goes up to 30 though, while defense and spdef on pin goes to 20 only

[normal parcel]

The other 2 can provide HP

Dena trying to get rid of thunderbolt red as an offtype staple

[pallid girder]

DC is so wild. It's the only game mode you hope your units have worse passive so they don't randomly trigger to slow your timer.

[warped gulch]

The only possible i think he did is using Red staggering

[cloud timber]

staggering and mgr may have helped

[normal parcel]

Staggering defeats the purpose of spamming the fastest sleep

[warped gulch]

You should try that team yourself tho

Even with Pin gives 30 speed for all pairs

[cloud timber]

i'd see it more as something to use if you're out of gauge

[warped gulch]

SST Red just cant give enough gauge for Melony

[normal parcel]

Cyrus has +6 speed so that may help

[warped gulch]

.

[cloud timber]

still runs out

[normal parcel]

Maybe it had a +30 speed pin for cyrus

[warped gulch]

.

Even NC Blue gives +6 speed for all team Melony still can burn all gauge

[normal parcel]

I guess the fastest spammer that doesn't burn gauge is elio

But his speed is variable

[warped gulch]

But we discuss about Skinny weird team tho

[normal parcel]

Yes I don't know how melony can keep spamming sing

[warped gulch]

Elio ofc is way more gauge friendly than Melony

He is in between Melony and BP Barry

[normal parcel]

Maybe turbo charge + max speed Cyrus is enough

[warped gulch]

Not enough

[cloud timber]

^

[normal parcel]

Maybe it LS melony and red for speedy entry 2

[cloud timber]

i have ft2 on melony and she gets a lot more than +2 off her spam

sstr could have speedy entry

[normal parcel]

Ft2 triggers when you fail?

[cloud timber]

yep

that's how poppy got a lot of her lg solos, stoic on twave charging infliction fails

[normal parcel]

Doesn't ft2 stall for buffing animations however?

[cloud timber]

not in any way i can measure

[warped gulch]

Like i really think Skinny will click other move than Sing

[cloud timber]

yeah you can't expect to sing through the whole fight with that team

[warped gulch]

And this is with +6 speed all team

Surely he clicked thundersock bc it quite quick

[cloud timber]

yep

[normal parcel]

In et it has self healing

[warped gulch]

Not if you flinch all Aoe move

And if you really flinch all Aoe move

[normal parcel]

It has healing when attacks not when it takes damage

[warped gulch]

ET will runout before enemy Sync

[normal parcel]

Sync never trigger reactive passives

But red doesn't care about getting hit (Chase does)

[warped gulch]

No if you full HP, his healing passive doesn’t make you lose time

[sullen zephyr]

Koga keeps not critting

[cloud timber]

there's still no way sst red is optimal but there's still the questions of why would you use that team and how was it that successful

[thin wren]

Ss wally, he compresses so much, his multipliers aren't too bad. Sync is strong with good special attack and insane accel

[normal parcel]

Even with perfect luck you can't flinch all AOE, because I think if you flinch earthquake, mid just uses hyper voice

[warped gulch]

He has staggering, he can queue thundershock before flinch happens

[sullen zephyr]

I got really close to pykuo's f2p vs marnie tho. I'll take solace in that. 642k vs 643k

[thin wren]

et sing isn't slower than clicking sing on para foe . Problem is that terrain takes animation so people just apply status instead

[warped gulch]

Noice

How do you feel about rng ?

[cloud timber]

i don't think max conductivity terrain consumes time

but when you need to set it up again it would

[warped gulch]

His Sync (Field) and his Max Move (grid) can set ET without any time lose

Unlike SS Hau

[cloud timber]

that too, but dedicating a sync to red is costly

[sullen zephyr]

Bad

[warped gulch]

Yeah, but that team can easy reach 500k tho

Better than old f2p

[thin wren]

that is true

[sullen zephyr]

Yeah it was better than my koga team during the rotation

[thin wren]

btw did anyone test ash chase melony to see if Ash got in 8 syncs?

We were comparing him to hau and realised he kinda needs 8 syncs to get more than hau

[sullen zephyr]

Koga team vs marnie: Melony runs out of gauge at the end, near the 7th sync

[warped gulch]

That why i recommended speed for gears

The gauge really bad

Even with Poison eat time

[sullen zephyr]

I dodged a dazzling gleam in 1 of the attempts tho. Like everyone dodged it. That felt good.

[warped gulch]

That really rare ngl

[thin wren]

I bumped my score to 2.3 mil in ranked using melony strat to save a sync spammer and I am fine

[cedar cloak]

Hey guys, I just came back from a short hiatus, anyone here able to guide me to get top100 on the ongoing ranked event? Here are my poison/dragon/fighting. I can push main units to 5/5 if needed.

[rain copper]

you should check the pins for comps to replicate

[pallid girder]

For being top 100, 3/5 Oleana and 3/5 NCHop are pretty much required.

[thin wren]

you have the units but not the move levels

[cedar cloak]

yeah i can 3/5 them

will check the pinned 1st ty

[fluid anvil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUKrSTilXbE
oh shit, 1.7m with Lucas ! That means 5-5.1Mil in 3v3 (if Lucas had Strike role ..)

NCblue passive:
"Team S-Moves Power ↑ 2
Powers up the sync moves of all allied sync pairs."
Can someone confirm is this 20% is additive with all normal multipliers (so like just having an extra CS2), or its separate/multiplicative x1.2 (like from WZT/rebuffs/circles) ?

[normal parcel]

Additive

[fluid anvil]

thought so .. because it says in the Lucas video
"But most notably, he has a base passive that gives a 20% multiplier to any ally's sync - just slightly less what a -1 rebuff from SC Steven would give. "
but thats not the case. Its 20%, not x1.2
Still super impressive, but Chase has to be better (I just assume no one has him lol)

[young tartan]

Ok so for Jacq-less bimbos like me, who should I use for Psychic solo?

[normal parcel]

Olympia if you have her

V elio should be also good

[cloud timber]

otherwise lucian

[young tartan]

Only 2/5

No elio

[normal parcel]

Anni may could work if someone manages to figure a team that can enable her fast enough

Otherwise I guess Lucian is the f2p way

[young tartan]

What about Lear?

[normal parcel]

Lear I guess is kinda anni may, you need someone that enables him fast enough

[thin wren]

probably Olympia level

hopefully his 5/5 next month is good

[normal parcel]

Olympia should setup much faster than lear

2 calm mind and a tm and she's set

[fluid anvil]

Lear should be a lot easier to set up than anni May (keeping in mind he snatches some buffs for himself too)
anni May is actually a nightmare without 5/5 brendan and even with him its slow

[pallid girder]

He can only snatch 2 stat in 3v1 DC bc the opponent only ever buffs 2 stat lol

[thin wren]

shouldn't be too bad at buffing with nc rosa

[fluid anvil]

you might need to use Melonys TM once for Lear ? not too bad

[thin wren]

His 5/5 will help copium

[normal parcel]

Rosa takes 1 sync cycle only to relic song once

[thin wren]

she has sharp entry 1

[young tartan]

I'm praying the mix scout to give me Lear

[thin wren]

Lear has soften up

[fluid anvil]

also Lear lacks P.terrain, but he has FOUR sync tiles and lots of sync reduction.
He should do well

[thin wren]

hopefully his 5/5 drops before psychic st ends

pls Dena

pls

[normal parcel]

Who can give stats fast enough?

[thin wren]

only pf without 5/5 pls do it quickly

[young tartan]

What does soften up do? It says easier to crit sync and I have no idea what's that supposed to mean

[pallid girder]

I mean even with Lucian you can prob get ~800k

He already did that much in 3v3

[rain copper]

it reverses the innate -1 crit on sync to +1

[fluid anvil]

I kinda want to get 1.5M with Lear
Jacq should be hitting 2.5-3M IMO

[normal parcel]

Sync get 100% crit rate at +2 as opposed to 80% at +3

[young tartan]

OHHHHHHHHHH That's amazing

No wonder so many ppl say it's a big deal

[fluid anvil]

soften-up 1 in 3v3 is godlike

[thin wren]

rosa helps

[normal parcel]

It is a big deal because normal sync can't get past 80%

[thin wren]

soften up is very nice qol

btw , what do ya all think will be the plan for aoe fairy

[young tartan]

SS Gladion

[thin wren]

and ss wally + bp barry?

[normal parcel]

For AOE strikers isn't just qol, you can't really expect to always crit all the targets with just 80% crit rate

[thin wren]

Just get lucky

[fluid anvil]

Rosa is good .. but also her syncing = have to use b-move = minus 1 sync total
Probably still worth to bring for the Psychic rebuff, but not worth on non-psychic

[thin wren]

Lear should still get 1 mil

[normal parcel]

Aren't Rosa buffs super slow?

[thin wren]

got 1 mil with him in aoe psychic

you need to do it once anyways

so that necessary once gives some buffs

you should be able to get 18 buffs on Lear if you are fine with using her tm early

[normal parcel]

In st you don't have to relic song unless you plan to sync with her

[thin wren]

I plan to sync with her

[fluid anvil]

Can someone with SS Hau and Melony (+ whatever 3-rd pair) record showing reaching 7 syncs after using Haus b-move 3 times?
I dont have Hau, but curious to see how you reach 7 syncs like that. Would think its impossible, but maybe not

[long silo]

I wonder if Lear can use Blue/Melony Tactic

[fluid anvil]

he can yeah

[true locust]

Not sure for singel oponet its play

[normal parcel]

More blue Rosa tactics

[true locust]

You need zone and special up next

[long silo]

Oh ye

Rosa

[true locust]

Amount off sync

Not always more important then power off them

Better 3 max power then 5 70% less

[normal parcel]

I guess Rosa + NC blue may be best comp to enable lear

[fluid anvil]

Rosa/Melony + Chase*

[long silo]

No Chase

[fluid anvil]

blue just gets used because more people have him I assume

[long silo]

Yep can't use him

[normal parcel]

Is more than blue should work at 1/5 while chase doesn't

[long silo]

And ye I sadly had to skip Chase. I was waiting for Feb datamine

[thin wren]

btw you need to use b move 4 times for ss hau. Enemies have x speed all I think

not sure if I remember correctly

could anyone check it actually

[normal parcel]

What move level does chase need to work? 3/5? 5/5?

[fluid anvil]

you got hau ? can you record 7 syncs with Melony+hau?

3/5 is enough

[thin wren]

gonna try with Chase

3/5

[pallid girder]

Isn't it better to bring a speed debuffer? You don't really want to see SS Hau's LONG b move.

[normal parcel]

Isn't chase reactive passive bad for DC? It can really speed up to the point that compensates it?

[thin wren]

ok. Give me a bit as I will require 2 -3 paras(was 4 sings away in my first attempt where I messed up a sing but got 1 para )

[thin wren]

dodge

[fluid anvil]

Just dont make chase the main tank .. and yes, his evasion and sprint more than compensates for it

[thin wren]

don't tank with chase and dodge everything

[normal parcel]

That's why people use NC Blue then

[thin wren]

simply don't get hit lol

[fluid anvil]

also his circle is x1.2 boost and with extension you only need to use it once (at ~1:10-1:15+ left)

[normal parcel]

If the key is keeping dodging no wonders people will use NC blue even if less optimal

[thin wren]

it's not too long and you would rather have a damage booster than speed debuffer

do you have chase and Ash @fluid anvil

[thin wren]

grimsleys used him for highest score in bug dc

[fluid anvil]

but evasion dodge is higher chance than para proc dodge, isnt it?
And then you also have sprint on Chase

[thin wren]

I wanted you to test something

[fluid anvil]

by the way the Aaron-Cynthia strat can work for Lear, because Cynthias +12 defences will max out his Rising Tide easily.
Only a question if you have enough gauge to spam Defend Order, but Aaron has catalyst on sync, that helps.

Aaron-Cynthia always reaches 7 syncs too. Feels like Defend Order is just as fast as sing

[fluid anvil]

What?

[thin wren]

Could you see if you can get in 7-8 syncs with Chase Ash and melony

[pallid girder]

Can they introduce a sing support with a new passive that increase dodge rate for every eva buff? :3

[long silo]

All these talk made me experiment some stuff

[fluid anvil]

I'll try in a bit

[thin wren]

shifty company 9

would be a banger name

[rain copper]

i read that as shitty company wth

[thin wren]

@fluid anvil My phone couldn't handle Poma and video so could only take final screenshot. My melony isn't ex so you can take my number of sync buffs minus 1 in the pic to see how many syncs I did
Dodges:2
-1 from melony dodging d pulse
-1 from team avoiding one aoe attack (could also have been para I missed what blocked the move)
-paras :0
I got unlucky with paras
number of times chase dodged an attack:2
chase cannot be hit by a move more than once. I tested this
Number of moves from non melony members: 9
-4 from Chase (let's go x3 and kanto circ)
-5 from hau(tm and 4 b moves)

sending pic

one minute

[acoustic chasm]

Nah, it's gonna be "Team Evasiveness ↑: Evade Chance ↑"

[thin wren]

ignore the volume button over melony. It was an accident

I did queue two sings late so there's that

[fluid anvil]

so 6 syncs with hau if you have to max out cakewalk? alright

[thin wren]

oh wait it's 2 let's go my bad. I didn't use the mpr one

[thin wren]

maybe if you are the god of rng and do not queue two sings late as well you could squeeze in another sync but that's gonna be very rough

[lethal siren]

https://youtu.be/HUKrSTilXbE?feature=shared

Melony Meta

[thin wren]

hau doesn't lose time in b move as much as he does in powerplant plus melemele breeze but it's required

likely for some dcs

[clever wasp]

Just a simple team change got me over 600k more

[thin wren]

nice

[clever wasp]

Same strat for the current vs wally stage helped a ton

Just gotta fix the first one cuz compared to the other two it's a joke

[fluid anvil]

its Melonys game and Colress and Barry are just living in it

[thin wren]

melony, the true strongest support of poma

[raven saffron]

Melony meta

[thin wren]

melony the queen

[tiny mist]

SC diantha is fighting

[clever wasp]

So close to 3 mil

[pallid girder]

I mean SS. It's brain fart.

[tiny mist]

I know u meant SS

🤣

[devout pelican]

And done, Ranked DC my behated

[thin wren]

no colress?

[devout pelican]

He's with Oleana versus Marnie.

I'm sure there are better optimisation but I'm fine with 1m

[thin wren]

oh ranked

[fluid anvil]

tried some Melony-Ash-Chase - best attempt was getting 7 syncs + B-Tbolt at the end (with circle still up).
Its not 100% consistent though and 2 main things for the Melony strat:

• if your main damage dealer can buff their own speed that helps a lot (less TMs needed from Chase) .. Rei is the best at it, Lucas too
• the less AoE enemy does the better for Chase

Overall I would say that IF Chase didnt have (extended) circle, then ncblue would be ~comparable to him even without Sprint .. but circle is too much damage to ignore (with Ash its even x1.3 instead of x1.2) and that makes Chase better (as long as the sync is Special of course)

[cedar cloak]

Anyone here hit 5mil and above points for this ranked DC event? If so, may I see your team setup and grids?

[vernal condor]

7 syncs is the meta ye

[thin wren]

unfortunately aoe elec spams aoe moves

so gotta dodge a lot with chase

[safe prawn]

I did but I don’t have optimal units

Is there any particular fight you had concern about?

[thin wren]

@fluid anvil how many times did chase get hit?

[fluid anvil]

no idea, didnt count lol

[thin wren]

did you count paras or dodges?

and did you para everyone?

[cedar cloak]

I haven't started yet. May I see your team? That way I can just copy the sync lv and such. 5mil would be where I want to aim and I have the resources for it

[thin wren]

by the looks of it we can estimate you got hit twice with Chase. Could probably take down the tight b move end window if he only gets hit once . Just gotta add time from thundershock from chase to para 2 enemies so ash can get full multiplier

since 2 enemies are para and melony is at 98% you probably dodged mence claw

[fluid anvil]

also for the Melony gauge - the damage dealer having their own speed buffs is probably the main thing.
Like in that Cyrus clear that got 1 Mil with SSTRed - people were asking how he had the gauge to spam Melony - its because Cyrus can buff himself to +6 speed. Thats seems like its enough to enable sing spam for the entire fight

same thing on the Aaron-Cynthia-Rei comp. I NEVER had any gauge issues even without MGA/catalyst, probably because +6 speed Rei is enough.
So you dont need +6 speed whole team, only on 1

[rain copper]

The fastest pair is the one carries the gauge

[thin wren]

your team also must not be slow as shit base stat wise

[rain copper]

It's the same tech with +6 speed tech eggmon when doing LG duo

[rare apex]

darn am i gonna have to ex melony for optimising dc

[warped gulch]

I said that team just cant provide enough gauge while spamming Sing

[thin wren]

for my ss hau testing, Melony never ran out of gauge

so ss hau is also fine on gauges

[warped gulch]

Like she can burn gauge with 3 +6 speed

[thin wren]

I wonder what's causing issues in this comp

[warped gulch]

+6 speed from Cyrus alone never enough

High chance that SST Red use thundershock to flinch

[fluid anvil]

this shouldnt be possible to run out at +6 speed for the whole team. Just look at that 1.7M Lucas clear - no gauge issues

[rare apex]

how come troublemaker is bad for this?

[thin wren]

my ss hau comp had mg accel, ss hau et gauge accel and +6 team

[rare apex]

just other options are better or

[warped gulch]

That BC Lucas need to click other move to get SEUN

And Zone too

Cyrus only has 2 Tm

[thin wren]

1:You don't really want to hit anyways. You want sing to fail so et mist be up or enemy para'ed.
2:It incurs queue penalty which massively slows you down

[fluid anvil]

hmm, idk. More testing is needed

[warped gulch]

That why i said should test that team

Bc the gauge is horrible

[thin wren]

@fluid anvil think you could get in the final b bolt in your comp if you had to click t shock 2 more times

so all enemies are paraed

[safe prawn]

Alright

[warped gulch]

Red ofc has gauge during ET

But imagine Syncing with him

Or click ET

[safe prawn]

@cedar cloak I can send you fighting and dragon

About poison is the regular redlax/geeta/oleana comp but I wanna try something different today

Hop is 2.4 mln

[thin wren]

nate being the goat

[rare apex]

[thin wren]

almost 2 mil in no sync

[cedar cloak]

awesome, whats their grids and lucky skills? (btw is steven a must to 4/5 though? or 1/5 works enough)

[safe prawn]

3/5 is a must

Bc you have trainer sync redemption

Which gets you 1 more use of every tm. Also 3/5 has an additional stack to his tm

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=010001061201&s0=5&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=13016403&t0=44444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFBgcJDA8RFBUWGScoKist&v1=010102064800&s1=5&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=15010101&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFJSYnKCkqKywt&v2=009003050801&s2=5&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=15010101&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFFRcYGR0gIiMkJyo

[cedar cloak]

ok got it to 3/5. i assume colress, rosa, steven all of them are using head start 1?

[safe prawn]

Bianca too

[cedar cloak]

awesome link, is there one for the fighting team too?

[safe prawn]

Yup I’m making it

[cedar cloak]

ty🙏

[fluid anvil]

as far as gauge goes - the Aaron-Cynthia-Rei comp actually looks like its the fastest one right now. Because I NEVER stopped spamming anything but Defend order, not once and never ever ran out of gauge .. just infinite gauge lol
https://streamable.com/pnjwm5

Its likely because 2-3 of them have high base speed + brawling accelerations

[safe prawn]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=019100060100&s0=5&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=15010101&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQFFRgZIyUnKCkr&v1=010201064000&s1=5&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=15010101&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFBgkMDRAeISIj&v2=024401014501&s2=5&l2=150&r2=6&p2=0&a2=13016403&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFBh0fICMlKSssLS4v

As I told you about poison I’m not the right person to ask since I’m still crying in my corner for no cake oleana

[dense citrus]

You sync w/ steven once yet get 1.8M ?

[safe prawn]

It’s Rosa - Nate - Steven - Nate

[agile root]

Do you have any video of this? Or can I know the flow?

[cedar cloak]

haha thats fine, btw may i know your current 5mil score is sitting at what rank?

[safe prawn]

There’s no video but basically it’s a different strat from the usual one. Rosa has to go back to aria form immediately after sync and she just spams sing, the opponents will barely move throughout the fight (I got hit only once)

And you don’t click B move before the zone is in place

[icy pendant]

Bicio is rank 13 atm

[cedar cloak]

ayo thats high

[safe prawn]

It’s very RNG heavy bc Rosa has no accuracy buff and you have to rely on no miss from Steven B move and….prayers 😅

[icy pendant]

right now 5m just gets you rank 30

[safe prawn]

In fact I got hit bc sing missed lol

[safe prawn]

Thanks for checking in

[cedar cloak]

awesome, was planning to stay top100, ig i will try top50

[safe prawn]

Im still trying to figure out if this all melony enthusiasm can do something for me lol

[cedar cloak]

running melony needs another debuffer like colress?

[safe prawn]

Im trying to understand how many sync more I can squeeze without zone with oleana

[icy pendant]

melony just needs a second status

[normal parcel]

Is NC Nate optimal comp still corless bianca?

[safe prawn]

That’s why oleana is there

And why I’m trying her there

[icy pendant]

true yeah oleana naturally covers that second status

[safe prawn]

But my gears suck for poison and there’s no fully investment so I already feel blessed for 1.5 mln

[icy pendant]

hey at least you have investment - I'm stuck below 500k

[fluid anvil]

both sst red and zapdos have real high base speeds + they both also have Turbo Charges. And +6 speed for the whole team.
I honestly have no idea how that isnt enough to spam sing forever

[warped gulch]

And you still saw the gauge was run out

Now assume that Cyrus instead

[icy pendant]

there's no terrain in the screenshot so you're just kinda stuck once terrain runs out

[warped gulch]

Yup, if you really want you can Sync with Red again or set ET again

[safe prawn]

Im already thinking to move to ssroxie

[fluid anvil]

terrain should never run out with red, especially if he is the syncer (Field role)

[warped gulch]

But why you’ll want that

Gauge ?

Maybe

[fluid anvil]

Well you will want that for 3v1 electric I assume

[icy pendant]

in the nc blue melony sstred team, red is the only damage source

[warped gulch]

But then why just not use NC Blue

[warped gulch]

I talked about Skinny team tho

[fluid anvil]

oh yeah

[warped gulch]

Which used Cyrus/SST Red/Melony

And score 1m

And idk how

Unless the gears benefit from para and wtz

Bc SST Red just worse than Chase

[fluid anvil]

I have no idea about Skinny team - thats a WTF
and I have no idea how your team ran out of gauge either (unless its really because E.T ended and turbo charges stopped?)

[icy pendant]

cyrus has +6 speed... maybe red gauge makes up for it

[warped gulch]

Like do you think you want to use SST Red’s Sync just for ET ?

Set ET manual takes a lot of times

[fluid anvil]

so that 1 Mil clear had to have been 8 syncs total, right ? No way Cyrus gets 1M otherwise

[warped gulch]

That why i just dont know why

Unless the god gears benefit from para and wtz

Or idk flinch ?

[icy pendant]

maybe, but thunder shock also heals in terrain

[rain copper]

Thunder Shock is also decently slow

[warped gulch]

Like you should that team tho, the gauge just too bad

+6 speed Cyrus isn’t that good

He has 246 base speed at 140 EX

[safe prawn]

Ok no it’s not the case to use melony

[long silo]

Fwiw the Cyrus at skinny clear is 150 altho idk how much it improves

[warped gulch]

Just to show how bad the team gauge is

My gear give both Cyrus and Melony 30 speeds

[copper otter]

Honestly.... rejuvenate 6 looking mighty fine fixing this

[cedar cloak]

speaking of gears, running same element gears is no longer useful? is it everyone running the white ones

[safe prawn]

White ones can give you at base more stats than the same element ones

[cedar cloak]

ohh didnt know that, will work on it as well ty

[pallid girder]

The skill gears are still useful when you can reach 1M comfortably with them and you don't want to try harder.

[warped gulch]

And if you know the trick, you can get a good gears with low feathers use

[copper otter]

I'm curious though, Melony has shown to be incredibly fast, but has those syncs been able to easily reach 1 mil for team comps?

Because it's true that she is fast, but it also feels like she's a hassle to use due to gauge issues

[true locust]

Read private messaged i explain you some stuff:)

[normal parcel]

I can reach 8 syncs with paralysis and dodge luck, but with 80% crit units is a chore

[rain copper]

omg sonia

[grave forum]

I am trying to use this team against Wally. Any trick to get over 1 million? Same grid.

[fluid anvil]

https://streamable.com/j5l74v
8 syncs achieved with Lear - Melony!
Whats even funnier is that Melony was paralyzed for most of the run and it still worked

[normal parcel]

I think that full para is even faster than missing

[rain copper]

With stable gauge support Melony being paralyzed is a good thing

[fluid anvil]

but it lowers your gauge .. and the gauge is NOT stable, you have to use Chase TMs periodically (even though you dont really want to)
I think its worse overall

Basically if the gauge was somehow infinite and you never had to click anything but Sings - 8 syncs with Melony + a Sprint support (except Rosa) would be ~consistent.
Unfortunately gauge is not infinite at all.

[normal parcel]

Just did 8 syncs with paralyzed melony, too bad bianca doesn't have soften up so critting is out of question

I feel that the 8 sync strat may only viable with units with 100% crit, you can't expect to crit 6 syncs with 80%

You can do it but is too grimsley

[true locust]

I told it befor amount off sync its not important but damage

I did on poison olena 9

And got way less score🤣

[normal parcel]

I know less but stronger syncs are better, the point is that if you aim to get 6 syncs with the damage dealer, you definitely don't want to deal with 80% crit

[true locust]

You need zone super up next . Not just syncs

Trust me i test it out

You from 4 sync can get more then from 9🤣

[normal parcel]

I mean if bianca had soften up, I could probably have scored more with the extra syncs, the problem is that with 80% crit rate the more syncs the more likely to miss crit

[true locust]

Bianca is not unit for sync damage

She suks

[normal parcel]

While with zone/seun you just make sure to crit those 3/4 syncs and you are fine

[normal parcel]

Ii don't have anything better

[fluid anvil]

you can only really have WZT if the damage dealer themselves has it. If not then too bad
SEUN is not necessarily better, Redlax TMs are slow (compared to sing) , SC steven doesnt have support EX etc.
case by case basis
I immediately improved my result on a comp, going from Redlax-Colress to Chase-Melony

[true locust]

I think bea whit 10 extra can deal more damage

[fluid anvil]

the best Lucas clear also uses Melony, not Redlax IIRC

[true locust]

You have 5 sync note and interia

[normal parcel]

I mean I tried both pure sync rush and rush with buffs, overall the damage is similar, I scored more with seen, but just because is easier to land crits the less you sync

[normal parcel]

I may try Bea, she has soften up

[true locust]

You dont pick it

Tell you focus on low def super up next

Less sync like you told more chance crit

[fluid anvil]

Wait, Rei has Soften Up 1 .. THANK GOD
I am 100% using the Aaron-Cynthia-Rei comp for Fighting 3v3

[normal parcel]

Isn't rebuff and defense destroyer better than what Bea has to offer?

[icy pendant]

also it's 1 target you just gamble that all your Bea syncs crit

[normal parcel]

I don't see how Bea can sync harder than bianca, doesn't she only have inertia?

[icy pendant]

425 bp sync

assuming you grab 5/6 sync nodes

[true locust]

You can use bianca and bea

And we say corrles

Bianca 1 sync and rest bea

Rebuff cirle should get you more score

Bianca have 2 sync note not 5 and only 1 sync multiplayer like bea

[icy pendant]

true bianca gives you +50%, defense destroyer, and passive

[icy pendant]

technically 2 passives but it's just another 30% so it doesn't make up for the massive bp difference

[true locust]

Defence destroyer low def

Not power sync lol

You can low def whit corrles too

[icy pendant]

bianca lowers defense while buffing evasion and speed though

[true locust]

Yes but like is say

Bea corrles lax

Also would give alot power up

Lax sprint reduce sync so similar like you get some miss

And super up next from lax

[long silo]

Been trying to experiment with Rosa

[true locust]

Rei b move 10 up strike more then his sync

[icy pendant]

not with 80% move damage reduction

[long silo]

I already experimented with B-Move earlier

[true locust]

A its ranked😂

[long silo]

5 syncs and 4 B-Move

[true locust]

Then only syncs

[icy pendant]

yeah ranked Rei syncs for like 200k at the end and then B moves for 50k

[long silo]

I am a second away from clicking five B-Moves tho

[true locust]

I think better try low hop def

And give super up next for all his sync

[normal parcel]

Calculated it it seems to hit weaker than bianca with rebuff and circle

I'm talking about bea

[long silo]

I got 750k with Rei/Bianca/Redlax, altho admittedly it has no Bianca EXR yet

[true locust]

You can use bea and bianca

[normal parcel]

But then I will need to use something like corless

[icy pendant]

Rei/Bianca/Colress cleared 1 million for me in ranked, shame I can't replicate it for a recording

[long silo]

This was just me experimenting with Rosa sing spam, and got a higher score it seems

[true locust]

Yes corrles

[normal parcel]

I can't use melony/elio

[long silo]

My Colress is 2/5 unfortunately

[normal parcel]

Corless is already used for dragon

[true locust]

Corrles place is in hop

Dont have better use

If have bianca

[eternal pecan]

So is NC Blue + Melony the new meta rn?

[icy pendant]

idt it's nc blue necessarily but he's certainly the fastest/easiest paralyzer and speed buffer

[fluid anvil]

Melony + Chase for Special syncers is best. Blue is alternative to Chase without the circle damage boost.
for Psychic/Fighting/Unova comps - NC Rosa is possibly better than Melony despite her reluctance to sync

[long silo]

8 syncs this time

But ye lower output

[torn lily]

How to get more than 1m on wally super damage challenge with nc rosa nc nate and redlax?

[copper otter]

Which one? For rotation or ranked?

[torn lily]

Ranked

[icy pendant]

are you turn 1 body slam paralyzing?

[copper otter]

Because the biggest thing you're gonna need to paralyze mid with body slam. You have to have Sing fail

Sing is not bein used to sleep, it's being used to sync rush

[cedar cloak]

i see, where can i learn the trick? is it pinned somewhere else

[safe prawn]

I mean if it’s not turn 1 it can be turn 2 you still save time be preventing the move

[normal parcel]

I mean with corless bianca with super effective up next or fighting zone still nukes harder than bea

Riley also nukes harder than bea st

[true locust]

You can use riley then

[normal parcel]

Between bianca, Bea and Riley, if you can put only one in the team bianca nukes harder

[true locust]

Plus he have g max wat not take time extra damage

[normal parcel]

And sprint ex

Max countdown too

But I needed corless for dragon weak

Can't use melony/Rosa/elio without a paralysis unit

[long silo]

Still cannot fit 8th sync, but it seems dodge proc is the key

[normal parcel]

I can do 8 syncs (2+6) with bianca, problem is that she misses a lot of crits

[pallid girder]

New meta is born!?

[normal parcel]

Don't know corless bianca Riley how much can score in ranked

Bianca can reach almost 870k with elio ad holiday jasmine

[valid radish]

i can't believe SST Red is a god again in another mode

[thin wren]

I think 8 syncs is possible if you flinch at the right moment

[thin wren]

yes, just tested with nc Nate and even for current dc she reaches 1 mil. I can take a few screenshots if you want?

[dense citrus]

This hurts.. ss1 I couldn't queue before Wally.. ss2 (I think..? At this point..) score went up 800k... this means it could've been 2/2.2m in ss1..?

[thin wren]

gonna steal this comp thx

but with rosa over melony

[copper otter]

Ncrosa is actually worse here.

[thin wren]

only for specific cases. Most comps should still prefer the classic rush

[copper otter]

You cannot have charging infliction as that wastes time and having to sync with her is way too much time loss

[thin wren]

the 10 seconds from b move is worth the rebuff

also who tf picks charging infliction when trying sing sync

[valid radish]

any reason to use melony over elio?

[thin wren]

gauge should be better than the vid and the sync will be more tight but in exchange you get 33% more in all syncs

[hidden junco]

Everyone two days ago and before

[thin wren]

I said sing sync

[thin wren]

even faster

[warped gulch]

Mostly bc she can have Sing with 0 passive

[thin wren]

0 passive failed sync has 0 pop ups

so no delay

[warped gulch]

While Elio stucks with Propelling Move 5

[thin wren]

only gauge holds you back

party sure technically getting paraed on an unit 9 times in a row is technically the fastest sync spam but.....

that's a bit too much rng

even for me

[valid radish]

aah right

[brisk shale]

Would pinpoint entry 2 be good on the sing users?

[thin wren]

doesnt do anything other than waste time in the beginning

[warped gulch]

Yes

[thin wren]

you want sings to fail

[icy pendant]

you want them to fail not miss

[thin wren]

pretty sure you fail even if at low acc

[warped gulch]

Landing Sing on para enemy is faster than miss

[thin wren]

you can't

there's no difference

it never says miss

[warped gulch]

[icy pendant]

the miss animation is longer for some reason

[thin wren]

it says failed from my et testing

does sing behave differently with para than et in fail case?

[warped gulch]

ET always fails

[thin wren]

ohhh et behaves differently

[warped gulch]

[thin wren]

then if you don't do et pin entry is good

[thin wren]

thought et and para fails were same

[valid radish]

Troublemaker would be worse in all cases right?

[warped gulch]

Yup

[thin wren]

Yes

pop up

imagine there was an acc sing unit with no popups and -2 gauge on entry

[warped gulch]

It has queue delay

[olive panther]

I was considering candying SS Serena, but was told in the general question chat that she requires a lot of support to be good in this mode. I see that there are clears with her, but with Lucas and SS Brendan at 3/5 (I only have at 1/5). I also don't have redlax, colress is only at 2/5 (no twave spam) and no SC Steven. Is it worth trying to invest?

[thin wren]

would be unstoppable sync spam

[thin wren]

do you plan on using her outside dc

[icy pendant]

do you have someone with the move sing not named Elio?

[olive panther]

She's currently my goto dragon dps and with the next HS event, at least she'll be useful for that

[thin wren]

then yeh

[copper otter]

if you're gonna use her for HSE, it's worthwhile.

[thin wren]

I wonder if psychic st will make use of jacq, rosa and smth like chase

[vernal condor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9_h9PKAcig he's in the best cyrus team lol

[icy pendant]

if you use her on the regular then she's definitely worth the investment

[thin wren]

will the gauge be enough to sustain rosa?

[copper otter]

the meta is evolving

[long silo]

Oh skinny uploaded

This answers a lot of questions people here had earlier

[olive panther]

I have NC Rosa, but I stuck her with my fighting team. I guess there's also melony?

[icy pendant]

oh you're looking for ranked I should have asked that first

[long silo]

@warped gulch and others who were discussing the 1m Cyrus earlier

[icy pendant]

ranked dragon doesn't sync spam unless you use nc nate

[olive panther]

Ah true, sorry I should have specified. I figured she'd be pretty decent in both modes though

[warped gulch]

So mostly gears dif

He still had gauge problem

[icy pendant]

yes but her team comp changes drastically between ranked and unranked

[warped gulch]

But the dmg just way higher

[thin wren]

isn't it more so that the stages that use units who can utilise singsync more coming?

[vernal condor]

speedy entry is smart

[thin wren]

btw are there different names for sync rushing

[copper otter]

Before it wa sjust BP Barry/Colress paralyzing then calling it a day, now it's using ET to sing fail.

[thin wren]

*diffrent kinds of sync rushing

[copper otter]

Para rushing
Sing Rushing
Drench Rushing

[warped gulch]

I know he used that, but i didn’t know how he deal with gauge until saw that he just ignored it and spam Sing anyway

[thin wren]

I think sing sync or sing rush sounds better

[vernal condor]

ouga booga sing

[thin wren]

no need to add the extra ing

[copper otter]

ouga booga sing is just liketa singa

[warped gulch]

What about his gears ?

His 1st Cyrus’s Sync was 80k

With 1 Supp Sync

[thin wren]

it's not supposed to be 80k?

tried this a bit with chase and couldn't get close to skinny but my first syncs with cyrus sup buffed were hitting for 80k+

[long silo]

I am still short of one sync, but hey 1m

[thin wren]

tho I did roll godly gears for dc

[plain cedar]

what’s ET mean

[vernal condor]

electric terrain

[icy pendant]

electric terrain

[copper otter]

aliens...

[plain cedar]

ah

[warped gulch]

https://youtu.be/XOEQhuw4NKQ?si=o2n5jhtEr9qhScRe

[plain cedar]

oh yeah sleep doesn’t work in electric

hypothetically what’s the fastest way to sync rush

[warped gulch]

Cyrus with 2 Supp Syncs hit 90k

[copper otter]

the video above

[plain cedar]

are we still thinking Defend Order/Cosmic Power

oh ok

[warped gulch]

Nah

[plain cedar]

Melony and Barry?

[warped gulch]

Mostly fun side thing

[vernal condor]

do/cp is tied with sing spam technically

[warped gulch]

Well for f2p that what i got

[thin wren]

where's nc rosa in the sync rusher speed tier list

[vernal condor]

bad

because she can't sync

[thin wren]

we tested it in the channel rn with the two top candidates. It's melony. Hau can get in 6 syncs and 1 b move (maybe 7 if you are the god of luck).Ash gets in 7 and 1 b move

[gentle locust]

Cyrus the best

❤️

[thin wren]

even for some non f2p comps melony will be optimal

[thin wren]

*for psychic

[vernal condor]

melony is the optimal sing spammer

[warped gulch]

I answered about why Melony with BP Barry tho

[thin wren]

oh didn't read properly