Damage Challenge

[normal parcel]

Depends how many MPR you need

If you need to use 4 red tm, is easier to fish MPR on both units once than having to MPR twice on one unit

[civic island]

Courtney tm and red refill take longer than Max Knuckle + Red Mpr
That's why that run got improved

And getting rid of para proc is something

But only for Colress + Red
Idk abt Barry Red or Barry scSteven

[normal parcel]

With Barry Steven you definitely need mpr

None of the 2 can give +2 attack

[dense citrus]

+9% sync -> still barely makes it....

[normal parcel]

I did the Barry Steven clear so I used MPR on Courtney

[civic island]

That's for sure

[normal parcel]

But I can see the merits of the max knuckle strat if you use red

[civic island]

40 atk
That's not good

[normal parcel]

40 attack for +2% is a terrible trade

Personally I used +65 with +4%

Don't know if my +75 gear would have been better, but I feel that 10 attack for 4% was a good trade

[civic island]

Consider this
Your setup vs a raw +100 setup

[normal parcel]

Assuming it had access to to +100

However I still think that +60 from ground gear is still better than +40 with 2% boost

[civic island]

It is

[normal parcel]

Ofc if it has +80 is even better

The +40 one will be useful for special damage dealers that don't care about the attack stat

[civic island]

Standard +60 Ground gear has an advantage of abt 2% on Syncs and 4% on moves

That's why it's suggested to go for raw stats

If you got multipliers fine, but go for the numbers

[normal parcel]

However +40 ground is just terrible because most ground nukers are physical

And the special ones are just bad (Naomi doesn't have ex, and lodge Rika innate wants -6 accuracy)

[civic island]

Are kinda fine for multipliers, it's the Bracelet that is lowering dmg bcs low atk

Nvm the pin has no effect in this
Opp Status Condition // Status Condition

Dena truly diluted the skill pool with that junk

[hybrid lagoon]

Is 1/5 sc irida gonna be enough for next dc?

[devout pelican]

Does she have multiplier at 1/5?

[latent plover]

Irida isn't optimal

Her multipliers rely on trap which wastes time

With 1/5 Irida just use either EX Morty or Fantina

[devout pelican]

Morty could utilise Colress for -6 Def

He could probably be used as a tank since he also has Eva buff

[latent plover]

He also has an easier nuke to set

[dense citrus]

Aw rip did not realize it was status and not opp.status..

[thin wren]

better than st trap and ada has his burn

[restive galleon]

What should I use

Also have rose

[devout pelican]

Courtney. You might need her be 150

[restive galleon]

Her?

Damn

With colress and support ig?

[devout pelican]

Colress and Red, or BP Barry with SC Steven

[restive galleon]

Any difference in grid or just the usual

[devout pelican]

This should be the optimum Courtney grid

Super Syncer might not be necessary if you run Red

[sweet grail]

alright so

what's the team for ghost?

guessing ssr cynthia exr?

and uhh

something

probably a classic barry cynthia and steven build

[pallid girder]

Mine will be EX Morty no doubt

[devout pelican]

Trust in Morty

[copper otter]

Scirida honestly.

Her sync is downright insane

Even at 1/5

[sweet grail]

no sc irida

lol

but

i kinda hate the cynthia nuke

[copper otter]

Wait.... hear me out.

[sweet grail]

like

bad smarty pants

[restive galleon]

I think I'm stupid

[copper otter]

Use phantom force on cynthia...... just before opponent syncs.... save that for YOUR SYNC.

SEUP setup on cynthia

[sweet grail]

you know sc steven also gives SEUP right?

[copper otter]

You don't want to be wasting SEUps when you could be focusing on stun sporing for 5th sync

Plus, it's a free SEUp

[sweet grail]

Sure

Can't argue with that

[copper otter]

Me personally, I'm gonna go Sc Irida/Sc Steven/ Yarrdenia

Yarrdenia has support exr +field

Tackle gaming. For sync rushing

But compensated for higher damahe output due to zone/rebuff

[normal parcel]

In sync rush I don't think being burned matters as long as your spammer isn't burned

[normal parcel]

How slow is yardenia b move? Tackle isn't that great for sync rush

Cynthia has tech strike and ghost zone, but her nuke is quite annoying to setup

[copper otter]

Who said about anything about using b shadow ball?

I'm using Metal sound for spdef drops

[normal parcel]

Then I guess Cynthia will still be the optimal unit instead of sc irida (if available ofc)

[copper otter]

So SEUp + GZ + Rebuff

With the team comp i have

Also spdef drops thats Aoe

[normal parcel]

Problem is that team lacks a sync rush spammer

[copper otter]

Literally tackle

It's not that slow

[normal parcel]

Tackle isn't that fast

Expecially aoe

[rain copper]

3/5 Steven has flinch on restrain target iirc? It helps a lot but there are 3 targets

No Tackle is really fast

[normal parcel]

Is flinch on no evasion

[copper otter]

Yes

But you shouldn't be using B leer

[normal parcel]

No evasion lasts much less than restrain

[copper otter]

Don't underestimate tackle smh.

[normal parcel]

Wondering what are the fastest spammable moves

I remember ember being pretty fast

[copper otter]

Tackle, accelerock, stone edge, ember, and quick attack iirc

Water gun is slow

[normal parcel]

I guess slash and fury cutter too

[copper otter]

Yep

[normal parcel]

Vine whip too

[copper otter]

Yes, stun spore may be the fastest, but it's literally by half a second, if you're gaining more damage output to compensate for the half a second loss, you're still gaining much more overall

Hence sc steven with rebuff and SEUp

Yarrdenia focus on GZ and Metal sound, then boom. Sync rjsh with tackle

Support exr will also help

[thin wren]

the peak rn is 1.5 mil huh

[copper otter]

Literally how

I'm barely reaching 800k

[thin wren]

well it's 1 mil 430k so closer to 1.4mil

[copper otter]

That sound like 6 syncs

I hate using courtney so much man...

[nova remnant]

Sync acceleration might be at play there to reach that many syncs

[copper otter]

Misery

Congrats DeNa you made me hate ground type units.

This message is brought to you by someone who has EVERY GROUND TYPE IN THE GAME.

[latent plover]

Turns out I can do much better

[copper otter]

[latent plover]

All I had to change is saving Steven's Super effective up next to the last two syncs

Still need the para proc, maybe even two if unlucky

[latent plover]

thundershock maybe? It was fast when I spammed it with SST Red

[golden tiger]

No 3/5 courtney so ig I'm cooked for this event

400k is already a godsend it seems without her

[copper otter]

Dude, i really wish someone found a better unit than courtney to get 1 mil, this unit is asinine

[thin wren]

what comp

[golden tiger]

I don't think I have tech candies atm nor I'm willing to use one on her even if i had

[thin wren]

ground id just bad in most departments so there's nothing to be found

I genuinely think st ground will the lowest peak dc

[golden tiger]

neither adaman not ss gio can win a sync nuke competition

they just aren't made for it

[latent plover]

Courtney also has better role compression because she sets her own zone

[thin wren]

Foxanne can win nuke but she doesn't have enough of a gap in st to justify the long animation and setups and no zone

[copper otter]

I want to commit pasio crimes.

Dps btw.

B earthquake does 100k a hit

[thin wren]

why are you using v gio

didn't you want 1 mil

[latent plover]

https://youtu.be/I6UqMjfOhTg

1.2 million in video

[devout pelican]

Unless Wattson is coming next month, you can burn all Hoenn scout tix

[vast glade]

Thank you God, finally

[vast glade]

If only she had a good grid expansion...

[nova remnant]

Link is just trying to see of he could get 1mil

He's like the 2nd highest ground pair in terms of damage output, just behind Courtney

[copper otter]

I refuse to believe that Courtney is the only unit that can get to 1 mil.

Vgio is genuinely super close to getting the 1 mil, the problem is that i need to make sure i get the most oomph from the earthquake, the highest damage amount i got from it was over 200k

Even higher than his sync nuke

[thin wren]

weird girl supremacy

[copper otter]

Ew

I refuse to be the hive mind.

[thin wren]

join us

[thin wren]

what queue are you using?

maybe try a defense debuffer or damage buffer over redlax?

[copper otter]

Sc steven debuffs

When i finish this store (work) I will record a run

[thin wren]

gl

maybe try v lyra?

[copper otter]

Vlyra is terrible

Anytime she gets hit, it procs her passives.

And lol acid moment

[thin wren]

oh right.....acid....

why.

[vast glade]

That's a great idea. Will definetely consider for a ghost run

[normal parcel]

Even if it does, there's like a 95% chance that it will be a pokefair and even if it's a spotlight it will probably take more than a year to end up in the ticket pool

[copper otter]

Ok yea no i'm done. Screw courtney, screw 80% crit rate, screw MPRs, screw acid, screw para, and most of all, screw Ground zone endin on sync.

[tulip lichen]

Don’t do my girl likr that :/

[copper otter]

Too bad.

[prisma quail]

I got 900k.

I'm fine with that. But I'm still super sad that this game mode sucks so much.

Runerigus should have been king.

I never had issues hitting the 5th sync, but I think I missed crits

[copper otter]

This rotation sucks, the game mode is fine

[prisma quail]

Poison single target was worse

[copper otter]

Poison single target had options

This one it feels you're locked to one team comp

[prisma quail]

Camerupt and Klingklang are at least free

[hybrid lagoon]

Imagine courtney had strike EXR

[prisma quail]

It would do nothing now except add 40 attack

But in the aoe ground challenge, I hope Runerigus matters again

[copper otter]

What she needs is field exr & extrnsion

[prisma quail]

This mode also makes sprint more valuable.

I might actually sprint cake my Blaziken and Wallygarde when those single targets come up

[copper otter]

Ground aoe weak, hot take, vgio will do better

Vgio has the benefit of being able to nuke without syncing easily

Just a shame he can't get 1 mil here because single target is hell

[safe prawn]

V gio is far above from other ground dps when it comes to 3v3

SE5 on the already high bp B move and double nuke multiplier

[prisma quail]

I mean, I'm pretty much ready for anything but single target DC

[copper otter]

Keep vgio in the bacck just in case. He doesn't need to sync, his dps is incredible.

[prisma quail]

Ground AOE is also not until Oct 11th lol

Plenty of time to cake if needed

[young tartan]

dumb question: so aoe ghost is next...this might be tripping but is cynthia giratina the best option or morty?

[rapid sparrow]

Probably not

I mean maybe if you have her Caked

[rare apex]

either her or sc irida methinks

[rapid sparrow]

Same

[copper otter]

Scirida and yarrdenia

[rapid sparrow]

I already have Irida Caked though

So that's my go to

[copper otter]

Yarrdenia has metal sound, GZ and Support EXR

[rare apex]

ssrc is caked for me so she'll be my go-to for it

enabling smartypants will be a bit of a pickle for me however

(no yarrdenia here)

[rapid sparrow]

Yarrdenia is a myth that only whales or lucky players have have

No you don't see my salt

[copper otter]

Then it's not a myth if lucky players have it

[rare apex]

thinking redlax/colress for her, perhaps

max knuckle to top off attack and screech

plus good ole para spam

[rapid sparrow]

Fine "Prepared players"

[young tartan]

I have both cynthia and irida but none of them caked lmfao

I am fucked XD

[rapid sparrow]

You gon want all the MPR you can get

[rapid sparrow]

No necessarily

Tech strike nukers will always be big in AOE stages because they will eat up with that AOE Nuke

But that will probably hit beyond 1mil

Way beyond 1 mil I believe

[rare apex]

yeah was thinking that it's a bit of a catch 22

at least ssrc's inate is just ghost zone

so that base is covered

[rapid sparrow]

Still sux if you want full nuke

[rare apex]

yup yup

[rapid sparrow]

What are Irida's Grid Multipliers?

[rare apex]

uhhhhhh

[rapid sparrow]

Pecking order and anything else?

[rare apex]

pecking order

soften up is nice, but not a multiplier

[nova remnant]

blind spot and pecking order

blind spot is base

[rare apex]

plus Blind Spot and lucky cookie for non grid stuff

[nova remnant]

trap and sync 4 yeah

[rare apex]

she also has terrify 2 which - when combined with b-move does lower someone to minimum attack - not taking possible attack buffs into account

[sacred badger]

@copper otter were you able to DPS with Giovanni? :(?

[rare apex]

sync thinker can also give her a few SMUN for a last hit b-move too for funny damage

[rapid sparrow]

Fonneh damage

I will go for Irida

Might candy

Because shes fav anyways

But I will try 1/5 to 1 million first

[rare apex]

you could use this and adjust as necessary, dropping sync thinker for the other sync tile is probably optimal imo

[rapid sparrow]

Or cake Cynthia
And save my candies

Wouldn't mind boggler be better

Just rng that 80% crit

[rare apex]

depends how many times you want to use regular moves ig

my irida is only 1/5 anyway so

[rapid sparrow]

About 3

[rare apex]

lucian could potentially see use here but idk

[sacred badger]

i'm doing uh

[slender venture]

Gardenia Cynthia will definitely be better together, and only because of metal sound

[rare apex]

no doubt, but still

[sacred badger]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=002701078100&s0=1&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=15010301&t0=44444&x0=true&g0=AAECAwQFBgcICQ8QERITFBobHB0eHyUmJyg&v1=009102048700&s1=3&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFFRgjJScqKy0uLw&v2=019100060100&s2=3&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=15010101&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFFRYZIyUpLA here's my gameplan on friday

[ivory kestrel]

wait, how do you maximize SC Irida's SpAtk stat? because her TM gives +4 only

[rare apex]

hmmmmm

so it does

if running her with yarrdenia, you could top it off with her tm, i suppose

using bp barry's tm once could also work

[ivory kestrel]

i'm thinking of running TM MPR with her, to top off both Spatk and Evasion

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=028501057101&s0=3&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=0&t0=11111&g0=AAECAwQFBgkMDxEUFxgaHyEuLw&v1=002701078100&s1=1&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=15010301&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFBgcICQ8QERITFBobHB0eHyUmJyg&v2=000000014300&s2=4&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=0&t2=11111&g2=AAECAwQFExYZJig0

[rare apex]

i'm doing a similar thing with renegade, tm mpr for maxed attack

[ivory kestrel]

Red gives her the Crit (need double MPRs at start); or i can replace Red with F-Allister for double Ghost rebuff

[rose basalt]

anyone planning to use ss cynthia?

got their grids set up?

[cursive linden]

1/5

[rare apex]

thinking something like this for her myself

[rose basalt]

what lucky skills are you going with?

sticking eith cs2?

[rare apex]

probably CS2 but if i'm desperate enough i'll give her SP3

enabling Smarty-Pants is a bit of a pickle however

not worried about zone since the timing will - i assume - largely play out the same as it did with courtney's zone usages

could probably drop sync quickening for something else, but i'm not sure what

two zones will be enough + if i fish for MPR maxing her attacks will be a non-issue

[rose basalt]

how are you gonna use smarty pants boost tho

since its sp def drops

[rare apex]

yeah that's the issue

[rose basalt]

💀

[rare apex]

i did consider lucian but idk

[rose basalt]

is superduper effective 2 only applicable for regular moves?

[rain copper]

Yeah

[rare apex]

sadly yeah

[rose basalt]

this gear should be fine then i guess

200 feathers

it costed me

[rare apex]

that's some fine skill gear for it

think i'll try out bp barry/renegade/redlax and adjust if need be

no sp def drops 💀

[rose basalt]

i really hate the rng aspect on top of the skill gear

the pins are too few and expensive from the shop

[rare apex]

if you gave me the choice between an EX or a pin
i take EX any day

[rain copper]

Me exchanging for ever pin every month

[rose basalt]

how do u have so many gold tix

[rare apex]

i respect it but skill gear just ain't for me 😭

[copper otter]

It's super close dude. I feel like it can be done.

Mpr luck needs to be insane, but 1 sync and B earthquake can reach it

[young tartan]

ok so quick question, regarding the flying single stage

which dps would u reccommend?

[warped gulch]

L Skyla maybe the best

[neat raft]

Fuck this stg, took me so many reset to get the ideal run for 4x Courtney syncs

[warped gulch]

For f2p

NC Cheren’ll be insane tho

[young tartan]

Cheren?

didn't he like need to ramp up MUN?

[rain copper]

Yes

He is so insane that he doesn't nees to rush sync to be the best choice on both ST and MT

[young tartan]

ok

wait me no EX cake

[neat raft]

tbh u probably can build up his pmun in the beginning stages also

the com will take quite afew turns before they run out of guage even if you want to rush

[rare apex]

you could also use sc steven to give him some smuns right out of the gate

pmuns even

[young tartan]

do I need him to be EX rolled?

cause right now is impossible lfmao

or until the start of August

[rare apex]

who cheren?

[young tartan]

yea

[rare apex]

since it's ST he'd only benefit from the extra attack/sp atk

you could probably get by without it

[young tartan]

ah true

it's single

[neat raft]

he's already base tech so he will only really want EXR on MT DC

[young tartan]

time to raise him to 3/5

[rare apex]

if you can break 1mil on st you'll be fine for mt

[young tartan]

now I just need 140 points for bp

[rare apex]

i think lodge serena could do pretty nicely for ST ngl

[sacred badger]

wait, that'ss VGio.

i thought you ent with SS Gio xD

[warped gulch]

SS Gio ?

That V

[copper otter]

Ssgio doesn't have a strong enough DPS compared to VGio

[sacred badger]

i'm still trying to get courtney to work

currently at 850k

[tiny mist]

red has adrenaline? or head start?

[devout pelican]

... Yes

[tiny mist]

that doesn't answer my question 🤣

i meant lucky skill

which one?

[rain copper]

Head Start

He has Adrenaline on grid

[copper otter]

I'm too tired for this sht. Missed a crit.

Also, here i guess. Way too pissed to make a joke on this image.

[left vine]

"Leaving so soon?
Fufufufu, let's spend a lot more time together, ok?"

[tiny mist]

my courtney is hitting like 0 crits

[copper otter]

Also, what pissed me off more was that i queued a move after sync, but i got hit with a times up.

Genuinely screw using courtney

Literally tossing her into the bin and never using her again

[tiny mist]

what courtney grid?

mind is doing much lower damage than the videos

[copper otter]

Tm mpr super syncer and Toowerirng force.

You need +4 energy

[tiny mist]

Have all those tbh

still much lower

[copper otter]

Then it-s skill gears

[tiny mist]

3 sync with courtney post 2 support syncs i managed 500k,

[copper otter]

Skill gears matter here

[tiny mist]

how.much will skill gears affect?

[copper otter]

It's literally a +80 attack boost compared to 60

From ground gear

Plus passives

[warped gulch]

Crit matter too

[tiny mist]

80 huh?

[vernal condor]

https://youtu.be/sAw2C5BuaVk?si=NWMd8fG3KTdKuWbZ

[rain copper]

Must have miss some crits

[cursive linden]

Can SSR Cynthia 1/5 EXR do at least 1.15M for this stage without Redlax?

[tiny mist]

I have only used the purple ones

[vernal condor]

who needs a tech nuke anyway

[rain copper]

Also you don't need to sync with support twice

[tiny mist]

they give +60 damage and some predefined passives

[copper otter]

I'm genuinely upset i missed one crit

I could have been done with this bs.

But nooooooooo courtney decides to be funny and not crit

She will be the reason i lose my voice from screaming

Genuinely though, this is the worst battle, because it doesn't rely on roster, it doesn't rely on lucky skills, it doesn't even rely on your input, it's genuinely just an RNG run. The worst type of runs in this game.

Missed crit? Reset, para didn't proc? Too bad reset because lost time. Oh, acid spdef dropped? Reset. Oh no mpr? Reset.

[feral hamlet]

Why are you screaming?

[copper otter]

Because courtney

She iis the reason for all of this

[warped gulch]

I still think that better than HSE

[copper otter]

True tbh

[warped gulch]

Imagine you get 1 really good run

And

[copper otter]

Crit lol

[rain copper]

It's still worse than LG tbh

[copper otter]

Honestly..... yea

Rn tier list goes
Lg > DC > HSE

[rain copper]

And BR in-between LG and DC

[warped gulch]

Nah:
LG > DC > LG dodge solo >>>>>> HSE

[copper otter]

Ehhh? Yea? I feel like BR is more exhausting to do

LG > BR > DC > LG Soloing > LG soloing from RNG > HSE

[sacred badger]

Wut. BR is easy though o o. Unless ur min-maxing oof

[nova remnant]

BR is a slog bc they made it weekly, 10 stages a week and made worse if you got hit with a stage where the boost can't exactly cover the stage gimmick

[plush palm]

thats what ss cyrus is for

[normal parcel]

Is more like poison st had great premium options, while ground st is a bit of an even field for most, since the best unit is f2p, is more that red and SC Steven are the staple for most runs

[left vine]

8 minutes down the drain

[nova remnant]

I got 7 stages straight where SS Cyrus can just spam sleep last week

[normal parcel]

With poison was pretty easy to get 1m with oleana, impossible with koga, now isn't that easy to get 1m with Courtney if you have one of the red/Steven combo but you don't need premium ground, and premium ground can't do anything

*3/5 oleana at least

[rare apex]

ss roxie gaming
oleana who?

[warped gulch]

8 minutes still fast tho ….

[true locust]

Pykuo wrong chat🙂‍↔️ hse in other bro we wait fro you too roll in

[warped gulch]

[devout pelican]

HS 1 as LS, then Adrenaline off Grid. Hence why I said "Yes"

[civic island]

Worth, may be short on but so far there are no other constant sources for ever pins

[civic island]

Finally some good gioking use

And some.other unit that can take 1M beside courtney

[devout pelican]

Finally, even though it needed 3 limited pairs

[civic island]

Yeah but I like to see stuff

I can replicate just Rika in that team

[vernal condor]

if you can replicate the team you might as well use courtney and bp barry lol

[civic island]

Yeah lol

scSteven is on the select list priority , can't wait for anni 3k selects

Also I bet he's the only one that can make fRoxanne work for vs3

Unless Dena releases a new *aoe ground nuker hope not

[vernal condor]

tech aoe ground nuker

[scenic grotto]

Ground type Arceus

[normal parcel]

Pray for the poor f2p ground AOE users

(hapu that's it)

Probably Courtney will still be better than hapu for ground aoe

[agile ember]

Is this the best I can do with this team? Pointers from anyone who got a better score? Only thing missing from this run was like 1 more MPR from red

[snow raptor]

That will do untill next rotation for some energy on it /o

[copper otter]

Oh my god. That is RNG central woth those MP refreshes

Is it even needed on Rika's end?

[icy pendant]

I have 250k more than you with the same team. This looks like you missed 1-2 crits depending on where those missed crits happened

[agile ember]

How many syncs do you manage? Do you use bulldoze at all? Do you drop def to -6 with screech?

[icy pendant]

In order: 5 (4 of which are with Courtney), I use Bulldoze once at the end since my fifth sync happens with less than 3 seconds on the clock, and yes

[agile ember]

Sounds like I just need more MPRs with Red in that case

Thanks

[prisma quail]

No red sync for EX?

Just all Camerupt?

[icy pendant]

4/5 are with Courtney so my fifth happens with non-Courtney aka Red

[agile ember]

Is giving Colress Head Start 1 worth it at all for these challenges?

[icy pendant]

I did, and it allows for a 2 cycle first sync with Red burning a mini potion to finish it

[normal parcel]

You can definitely get 1m with this team

[agile ember]

I can only barely get 3 syncs with Courtney and 1 with red. Am I supposed to use red’s TM every single turn and just hope I get enough MPRs to last me to the end?

[icy pendant]

I didn’t run the frame data on it but I feel like most of the time that 2 twaves are still faster than one Red TM

[copper otter]

Imma try that ssgio strat, part of me feels like 3/5 rika isn't needed.

[acoustic chasm]

Isn't it better tho so there are less chances of missed crits?

[ivory kestrel]

are you able to get to 5th sync? this number suggest a 5th sync but maybe missing a crit?

[normal parcel]

Without 3/5 I don't think ground zone will last the whole battle if you sync 1st with her, plus I think that clear really wants 5/5 Giovanni

Just for the +10e

Plus the extra BP really helps with a tight clear

[copper otter]

I have 5/5 gio

+10 NRG too

[rain copper]

nah you lose on damage

[copper otter]

LOL No. I will replicate it.

[copper otter]

OH, this is 100% possible with 1/5 rika

[lapis yarrow]

So is if safe it too say that without the right lucky skills or gears you won't produce high numbers?

[copper otter]

correct

[crude sandal]

Don't forget about the units

[lapis yarrow]

I should be ok in the unit department.its just the skills and gears I struggle

[copper otter]

hmmmm got 800K again.... but i think i know how to get to it.

the max countdown might be worth it

[safe prawn]

He could have also applied SEUN on max move

[cloud timber]

doesn't look like there's enough time on that run

[copper otter]

Ok i see why 3/5 rika is needed.

Whatever, i'm done with this one, i got a leon medal at least.

even though it's not 3 stars.

[acoustic chasm]

Hey, that's something
I'm stuck on Rika range (but I love Rika)

[hollow whale]

Saw two guys get 1 mil with this comp and I don’t get it

[icy pendant]

How familiar are you with the routing on that team? (ie. did you just see the team and decide to use it or did you actually look into the route and try to internalize that?)

[ivory kestrel]

Managed to get a higher score; i got 2 para procs, so i guess I might have enough time to use the 2nd Steven TM for that extra oomph on that final Bulldoze. Edit: rank 55

[latent plover]

You don't DPS with that team. You need to spam stun spores with Barry when not setting up

This team can definitely reach a million but you should see a video of how the clear was done

[icy pendant]

ngl... I think the Barry team doesn't even need support EX for 1m

[ivory kestrel]

one way to find out: replace Barry with Colress, and basically do the same routine lol

[icy pendant]

I don't even need to, my Barry isn't EX'd anyways

[hollow whale]

Score keeps getting worse WTF

[ivory kestrel]

is Courtney fully set-up (3x TM + 1x XDef; correct grid)? Are you using all three B-leers? Is Ground Zone always up for all Courtney syncs? Are all syncs crit? Even with type gears and not reaching to 5th sync, you should be able to get 600-700k at least

[hollow whale]

Yes yes yes HELL NO

[icy pendant]

I don't think my Hugh understands what "being paralyzed" means stop hitting dragon pulse with <5 seconds left and 1 on my sync cd please

[hollow whale]

And this bastard of an eel keeps getting so fed procs

GODDAMNIT

[ivory kestrel]

This is after Courtney’s 3rd sync (fourth overall after Barry sync at start) + 1 use of Bulldoze. Granted i have SP3, means 4th sync damage should be around 600-700k.

[hollow whale]

I can’t get to her third GOD

[vernal condor]

getting to 3rd is easy tf are you doing

the 4th can be an issue but 3rd is free

[hollow whale]

STOP HITTING ME YOU DAMN EEL

[icy pendant]

yeah this is a 20k improvement syncing straight Courtney, needs two paralyzes though

[ivory kestrel]

Hmmm Steven’s TM and SeUP arent even all used up, means something else is eating your time. Are you tapping fast enough on Stun Spore?

[hollow whale]

I’m tapping as fast as I can

[icy pendant]

if you're not syncing with Barry are you skipping applying SEUN for Courtney's first and third syncs? You should still be applying both SEUN as if you're going to make it to fifth sync

[ivory kestrel]

If you record your run and post it here, maybe others can take a look for improvement

[icy pendant]

but also that looks like you need better enemy getting paralyzed RNG

Courtney's last sync even without a support EX should be hitting for 300k-ish on a crit

[ivory kestrel]

You dont need rng to reach to 4th sync. Something else is eating up his time

[hollow whale]

IT JEEPS GETTING WORSE WHY DAMN

[icy pendant]

phone diff is also real and idt that's happening here but also hella long animations

yeah I definitely suffer from phone diff, my dragon pulses take 19 frames longer than gilad's do (44 frames vs 25)
my acids are also 15 frames longer (33 frames vs 18)

[hollow whale]

Fuck it I give up

[proud minnow]

I believe phone difference is real too

[icy pendant]

all my enemy attacks take 50% longer than they should so yeah fifth sync is rng to me

[proud minnow]

I struggle to get Courtney’s 4th sync on my phone,

and then on my IPad I have about 7 seconds left after Courtney’s 4th sync

[copper otter]

People not able to score 1mil vs people scoring 1mil

Spoiler alert, they both feel miserable.

[icy pendant]

the contrast between how I feel about DC during the week and how I feel about DC on the weekend is startling

[sacred badger]

Yep

[devout pelican]

But that's wrong. I feel relieved getting off that grindstone

[thin wren]

guh, pushing past 1 mil is hell

the enemies having acid takes so much animation time

[copper otter]

tries courtney one time. gets 200K first sync on her.
Para didn't proc at all
resets: Does courtney sync again.... 120K.....

Screw Courtney x 1000

[spark prism]

I did 1 try and got like 400k something total, not going to to do more

Ghost might be better tho, Irida or Cynthia? I have both 3/5 EXR

[copper otter]

SC Irida easily

Cynthia is much harder to set up, meanwhile SC irida has a literal lucky skill to increase sync damage

[spark prism]

Oh yeah, I always get those but havent used any yet

[copper otter]

some of them are downright insane.

then there are some that are just..... why?

[devout pelican]

I am gonna try out OG Morty for ghost

[queen moth]

Ghost has to just be like

SC Irida right

[last stream]

gonna need that Paralyzed Opp Fail ↑ 999 real soon

[hidden fog]

Lithe

[thin wren]

has a non Courtney run gotten 1 mil yet?

[pallid girder]

Yes 5/5 SS GIovanni DPS, with Rika setting zone and SC Steven refreshing TMs almost EVERY turns.

[dense scarab]

I stopped at 871k, RNG hell

[sullen zephyr]

healing hand 9
no more twave spam

[hidden fog]

Just Lithe

[dense scarab]

RNG hell mainly meaning the reliance of Courtney criting

[hidden fog]

Acid not dropping your SpDef

[civic island]

Luckly they won't
Maybe status immunity as rule in one of the ranked stages

[hidden fog]

MPR

There's a lot of RNG checks in DC

RNG Challenge

[dense scarab]

This is probably the most RNG DC to date

[civic island]

LG runners:

[thin wren]

how much?

[dense scarab]

Petition to give Courtney Soften Up on grid expansion pls, by far greatest gatekeep

[hidden fog]

Nah, just release a new Ground type ST nuker as PF

[thin wren]

Is Courtney crit that bad?

[hidden fog]

[thin wren]

cope

[hidden fog]

No, it just sucks if you miss crit on sync

It's always been that way

[thin wren]

simply crit

[hidden fog]

Exactly

But it's not as straightforward as that now is it

[dense scarab]

Skill issue I'm aware

[thin wren]

if you aren't critting, crit harder

[hidden fog]

Anyways good luck to those who are trying to maximize score

My prayers are with you

[dense scarab]

Yeah I'm finally satisfied at 871k lol

[thin wren]

same

[hidden fog]

I did one try, got 500k, and ran

[thin wren]

has ground hit 1.5 mil yet

[hidden fog]

Took me like 5 mins max

[thin wren]

I got 870k after 8 tries and ran

I am not gonna reset for rng

[dense scarab]

I figured Fall Roxanne would be good but her dependence on Trap is eh

[hidden fog]

DC is just "spend 3 minutes for 100 gems" for me

[thin wren]

she has a lot of animations

[hidden fog]

But hey it's content so

[thin wren]

at least dc gave me another adorable wally

Guys, should I 3/5 him with sprint candies to be based

[civic island]

having to trap all 3 of them looks demanding tbh
With all those passives triggering each hit
Trap experience w fRoxanne was awful

[dense scarab]

Pls don't

[thin wren]

or should I be cringe and wait to get enough tickets

[hidden fog]

Up to you

[civic island]

No, but Adam is at 1.4M

[hidden fog]

Just play how you want

Let's be real

None of the rival pairs are that good lol

[thin wren]

close

[hidden fog]

So just play with them as you like it

[dense scarab]

At least Nemona has a niche if you lack SS Diantha

[thin wren]

did he say he could improve it?

[hidden fog]

True

[pallid girder]

Here's the video: #1255888121648644197 message

[thin wren]

would Wally be useful in dragon dc ranked if I don't have bianca or Lucas or zerena or is third slot nate redlax better?

[thin wren]

wth

[hidden fog]

NCNate would be better yes

With Colress esp due to Master Passive and Unova Circle

Giga stacked

[thin wren]

I am talking about replacing the non redlax or non nate slot

wally could debuff defences and deal damage and give Accel

so was wondering if he would be worth it

[sullen zephyr]

wouldn't status immunity mean t-wave always fails so you can spam before the initial infliction?

[thin wren]

colress will be with bea for fighting

[thin wren]

yes

pretty sure even nc rosa could sync rush if enemy had status immunity

[sullen zephyr]

infinite natural cure would shut that down

[thin wren]

So for dragon rank dc , should I go Wally,redlax and nc Nate

[civic island]

Idk, but doubt it by looking at others builds

[thin wren]

what teams will ya all use for ranked dc?

[hidden fog]

SC Steven

No SC Steven? Probably a sync accel like SS Elesa or something

Reset for MPR

[devout pelican]

They are onto us if the stage suddenly has lithe

[pallid girder]

Also this. Prob using the same strategy but this one doesn't have video.

[hidden fog]

Rika looks so cursed in that screenshot

[mossy adder]

https://youtu.be/N2CdllRXl6U?si=JSLHizCBK6NbGU8R I'm trying to copy this person but what am I doing wrong? Do I need to use the healing?

[mossy adder]

~~I didn't start at the beggining because I had to rng for the mp refresh.

[sullen zephyr]

is using redlax's tm purely to accel sync faster than barry's status spam?

[sullen zephyr]

holy moly sync lv 8

[left vine]

It's slower actually because of all the damn buff animations

[mossy adder]

redlax tm I'm pretty sure is just for the super effective up next.

[sullen zephyr]

thought so

hmmmm is putting head start on redlax and barry a good investment for all the remaining DC stages?

[left vine]

Using potion at full health lets you burn a turn quickly, which will save you some time

[left vine]

Considering this will be the meta for the foreseeable future, sure

Adrenaline works for Snorlax too since you generally want to sync with him anyways

[sullen zephyr]

i have 2 HS cookies and 3 adrenaline cookies, and 300 deluxe cookies

[left vine]

That's plenty

I started with uhh 350?

I now have 200 lol

From the various SP3s and Adr1s and HS1s

I am beginning to sweat a little

[sullen zephyr]

i haven't put SP3 on anyone who can't deal at least 2 types of damage

[devout pelican]

Need at least one para proc and no debuff from Acid. Also having good crit roll. Then you need as much stats you can

Yes, it's an ordeal for most

[ivory kestrel]

Courtney in this DC defnitely appreciates SP3. Doable with CS2? Certainly. But seeing all the scores very near 1M cutoff, that gap in SP3 and CS2 might be the difference between 990k and 1.05M

[pallid girder]

I guess I'll roll SP3 on units of the types I can't do 1M when the next LG runs.

[devout pelican]

SP3 is definitely good especially for pairs with little multiplier

Since Courtney only has Towering Force, that's the difference of 120% (CS2) and 130% (SP3) increase

[mossy adder]

Could you describe how to get ‘as much stats you can’?

[civic island]

You missed two sync crit

The 2nd and last

[mossy adder]

Is that an 'unlucky' thing or could I do something to get a crit besides increasing crit rate?

[civic island]

Sync moves have innate -1 crit chance, 20% to fail
Only passives or innate sync effect can fix that

It's part of the RNG

[mossy adder]

Also, while I don't have Rika or SC Steven, I do have SS Giovanni (3/5) that I can EXR and SC Rosa (phanpy) - is Giovanni better than Courtney/Red/Barry without needing the first two if I use what I have?

[mossy adder]

I see, thank you.

[civic island]

With more attempts usually you try to get good damage rolls (damage can vary by 10%) and it's unavoidable
And get all syncs to crit (20% to fail)

You'll eventually met those conditions

[civic island]

Sc Steven is rewuired for debuffs, so no

Lyra is not optimal sadly

If you want a safer run you can try Colress Redlax Courtney

It's just about getting the good rolls, no para procs or whatever

[acoustic chasm]

It baffles me how Morty has a TM and a multiplier based off of being statused, yet Drifblim can't status itself

[civic island]

It's a main line thing, but sure useless on him
Gritty5 is actually huge, if only granted a self status

[acoustic chasm]

Please DeNA let me Stun Spore allies

[civic island]

Would be so fun

Burn entry lucky skill

[sullen zephyr]

gritty

guts meta

[hollow whale]

Summer Lyra woes

[cloud timber]

redlax tm is slower than failed para x2

[devout pelican]

By "as much stats as you can":

1. level 150
2. special gear

And I'd use Colress with Red instead of Barry

[cloud timber]

1 max health mini potion and 2 max health synthesis uses at the start help give you the most possible time for 6 syncs

helps you be safe from debuffs eating too much time

and with bp barry instead of colress you really want the 6th sync

0 shot at 1m otherwise

[normal parcel]

My phone is trash but I managed to get to 5th sync

[devout pelican]

And no, I don't have the slightest idea. Just saw the screenshot

[normal parcel]

NC bianca, that's new

[devout pelican]

What does she even offer? Flinch?

[pallid girder]

and circle (Colress helps boost it btw), def debuff and evasion.

[civic island]

Circle offers 15% sync boost + 20% from her passive
Evasion+staggering

[devout pelican]

Fair enough

[civic island]

Ye, that's why I hope to see Gioking ncSilver Bugsy/scSteven before event ends
They got huge multipliers

[hollow whale]

I really don’t get it

No time to use SCteven’s TM at all

[rain copper]

did you get one or two para procs

the 1m run requires at least one proc

[true locust]

Optimal 2/3 para have time for all then

[hollow whale]

I’ve never seen Hugh miss or paralyzed in any of my runs lol

[true locust]

He never miss

He can fail too hit be para

Its low chance but happend

[sullen zephyr]

I can improve my DC score by buying a new, more powerful phone?

[unique abyss]

Literally p2w

[sullen zephyr]

Next level

[thin wren]

five days till st flying

[normal parcel]

My phone is the bottom of the barrel and I still managed to get 1m

[warped gulch]

You never need it, but SpDef drop matter too

[rain copper]

i always fall short of 1 mil because of no para

[normal parcel]

I don't remember getting a full para for 1m

[sullen zephyr]

Mfw 2/5 colress

Is this the cap or has there been a better clear for this team at this level?

[acoustic chasm]

Gonna try reproducing this later

(inb4 it's a bunch of Bianca TM MPR )

[robust meteor]

Take that you slimy floating venomous snake thingy. No paralysis procs either. No SP3, Courtney has CS2

[sullen zephyr]

Funny that they picked an electric type pokemon that's immune to ground for the ground weak stage

[thin wren]

it's the elec mon hugh uses

[normal parcel]

Wondering who will be the best f2p for dragon AOE, Cyrus?

[devout pelican]

It's a funny Japanese kite thing

[normal parcel]

The best premium should be NC Nate

[devout pelican]

Probably, real question is zone or not

[normal parcel]

I mean for f2p zone isn't really an option

Unless they picked Lucas over redlax

[devout pelican]

Right, DC Wally is Sprint

I think most picked Lucas

[normal parcel]

DC wally should be the best f2p dragon single target

[devout pelican]

Assuming you go past 1/5

[normal parcel]

Who are the alternatives? Bp zinnia with flinch based innate and lisia

[devout pelican]

We need like 8 weeks to get all 5 DC

[normal parcel]

Don't know if by then we can get 900 tix

[devout pelican]

And that assumes they don't add more during anniversary

[unborn vault]

HOW HOW HOW HOW

I want to know everything abiut your strat

[normal parcel]

However there's also the ranked that gives extra tickets

[unborn vault]

4 Courtney syncs were enough???

[normal parcel]

4 + sup ex yes

[neat raft]

need alot of luck, courtney's sync must all crit(4x), acid cannot drop the stats of your team

[unborn vault]

Yoy recorded?

[devout pelican]

And the end of the day, it's all about high roll on crit and damage

One crit off = reset

[neat raft]

i used skill gear too for max attack boost

so it more or less affects as well

[devout pelican]

You know, at least there's an assurance using OG Cyrus for Dragon MT - No need to worry about no crit

[neat raft]

plus i queued an extra move after sync, it was almost 1m, but the additional attack pushed it past 1m

[normal parcel]

I guess you can afford missing 1st crit if you crit last 3 syncs with good enough damage rolls

[unborn vault]

Also also, did you drop the defense and /or speed?

[devout pelican]

I don't think you can afford using debuff there

Rock Smash takes too much time

[unborn vault]

Huh?

[normal parcel]

You have to debuff

[unborn vault]

I'm sure you do have to lower stats

[normal parcel]

But not with rock smash

[unborn vault]

Yea

What's the most optimal way to do this

[normal parcel]

You need either corless screech or SC Steven b leer

[unborn vault]

Wait no you do have to rock smash unless you go for tm mpr

With this specific comp

Because you need to top off atk

[devout pelican]

But he has neither there. It's Red and BP Barry

[unborn vault]

... unless you go for 1 more redlax mpr

And use fighting max move

[devout pelican]

He's referring to this clear #1255888121648644197 message

[unborn vault]

But 1/5 redlax has no mpr yet am I right

[neat raft]

there is

[devout pelican]

He has

[unborn vault]

Oh

[neat raft]

3/5 gives him adrenaline

which helps

[unborn vault]

Damn literally the only good 1/5 grid then

Yea

[neat raft]

without its doable, but u need insane luck

[unborn vault]

Would you mind to walk me through your turns?

I'm missing something

[neat raft]

well, both supports need HS1

[normal parcel]

For 1/5 you can pick everything and one of the tiles is mpr2

[neat raft]

for first 2 syncs, I queued with all 3 since Hugh's move guage is not empty

the first sync should only require 2 full cycle of moves with red's one usage of TM

[unborn vault]

Damn... I only have adrenaline 1 on Redlax and never managed to roll hs1

[neat raft]

i always start with red's body slam also

[unborn vault]

Is it still ok?

[normal parcel]

I always start with mini potion

[neat raft]

if it triggers para it also helps since barry doesnt need to para anymore

[unborn vault]

I can take he1 which helps I guess

But probably mini potion is better

[pallid girder]

Ryuki. 1 TM MPR and his sync multipliers are fully setup. The only downside is that he's special.

[normal parcel]

1st turn mini potion is guaranteed to fail

[neat raft]

u need hs1 on both Barry and Red in order to fully enjoy that effect

so u can queue a sync after 2 full move cycles

[unborn vault]

Hm...

[normal parcel]

Ryukyi isn't f2p (isn't in the ticket scout yet)

Eventually ryukyi will become f2p but right now isn't yet

[unborn vault]

I can anyways with 1 more mpr from Redlax

Like

Tm tm stun spore twice

Resetting for mprs

[neat raft]

after red syncs, your sync cd should be at 6 if red is caked (dont need to triple queue here, u can use red's TM again so that you can sync after 2 move cycles without having to quad queue, but u will need Red's TM to trigger at least once in the entire battle, the last mp can be obtained from queueing his max move)

[unborn vault]

My sync cd is 4 so even better

[neat raft]

after the 2nd sync (Barry), its pretty much spamming

[unborn vault]

How do you get Courtney to max attack tho

You run her mpr?

[neat raft]

yeah

[unborn vault]

How's grid?

I was running the +20atk tile

[neat raft]

the other alternative is Red using MM but u will need luck on his TM MPR then

[unborn vault]

Which I'll prob need

[normal parcel]

The main issue is that at neutral defenses I don't think Courtney has enough damage to get 1m

[unborn vault]

Exactly

Especially since my Courtney is 3/5

I would gladly settle for a 900K tho

[normal parcel]

Maybe if you could sneak some bulldozes

[neat raft]

ahh mines 5/5 so it might affect things here n there also

[unborn vault]

I know I know

What gave you 1M should give around 900K for me and it's ok

[normal parcel]

Problem is that it uses x defend so is even harder to get him into negative

[neat raft]

if courtney doesnt crit its pretty much game over there

very big dmg difference

[normal parcel]

I mean without using 4 screeches you should have more wiggle room to get to 5th sync

[unborn vault]

I don't have screech!

I have Berry too

[normal parcel]

Expecially at ,+2 def and if you are running cs2 instead of sp3

[unborn vault]

No Corless ever pulled somehow

[neat raft]

even with SP3

its a big difference

[unborn vault]

I have cs2 too

[neat raft]

that's how insane it is

[normal parcel]

I mean at +2 without crit the positive defense will matter

[neat raft]

since not critting the def stacks will drive your damage down alot

then the fact u need acid not dropping your team's defenses is another rng hell

[normal parcel]

At negative/neutral defense with sp3 there's still a noticeable damage reduction, but not as harsh as +2 def with cs2

[neat raft]

ofc the best scenario is if Hugh gets paralyzed and unable to pull off the move

the additional saved time will definitely help

seeing how horribly slow that move is

[normal parcel]

As a side note, to get close to 1m without being able to debuff defense, you really need to crit regardless

[unborn vault]

But excuse me

Do you spam bulldoze after Courtney 1st sync?

[neat raft]

no

[unborn vault]

Or at least use 3 times

[neat raft]

0 times

[warped gulch]

Never use it

[unborn vault]

How tf does she get 1M with +0def

[warped gulch]

Until last second

[neat raft]

that is the time u really want to rush sync

[normal parcel]

Form +2 isn't worth using bulldoze to debuff

[unborn vault]

But then if you rush this much

[neat raft]

since Hugh's move guage is usually empty at that point of time

[unborn vault]

Don't you get to a point where you get 5th Courtney sync

[normal parcel]

You will need 3 bulldozes just to get to -1

[neat raft]

and also if you have super sync-er grid on

you will not want to waste the buff on regular moves

[devout pelican]

I thank colress for keeping spooking me (I dont)

[unborn vault]

I... am sure you can get 4 courtney syncs while also getting to drop her def

[neat raft]

not sure about that, never tried it

even the most ideal setup with 3/5 red

the person who took the vid didnt try that at all

[normal parcel]

You can get 4 Courtney syncs if you drop def with corless or SC steven

I don't think you can ever get 4 +1 syncs if you use rock smash or bulldoze

[unborn vault]

I did once or twice

But didn't crit all the syncs and ended on 650K

[neat raft]

i tried that tactic with Colress and Red, can only hit low 900k at best

[normal parcel]

I guess skill gears matters too

[unborn vault]

My skill gears are decent, I have a static shock 4%

But nothing much more

[normal parcel]

Everything matters when top spots are at around 1.2/1.3m

[unborn vault]

Yep

Don't even care about those tho ngl

[normal parcel]

Is more about the attack stat than static shock (but it definitely helps)

Ideally you want +100 attack from skill gears

[unborn vault]

Uuuh

[normal parcel]

Expecially when you are using a mega with an attack buff on mega

[unborn vault]

How do you get 100 attack

[normal parcel]

80 + 20

[unborn vault]

+80 is a thing?

Damn

Thought it went up to 70

[normal parcel]

Yes +80 is the max from bracelet and bandana

[unborn vault]

Don't tell me... the skill gear really gives atk boost BEFORE mega multiplier?

[normal parcel]

+20 is the max from pin

[normal parcel]

Yes it does

[unborn vault]

Oh my

[vernal condor]

wikstrom stonks

[unborn vault]

I kinda compensate with +20 tile

[neat raft]

the only problem is getting +80 on the correct theme

[unborn vault]

Lol

[unborn vault]

And pins cost too much

[normal parcel]

Wilkstron gets +300 attack with maxed skill gear

[unborn vault]

LOL

[neat raft]

they love to give a 1 theme gear when u rolled +80

[vernal condor]

Not a problem

[neat raft]

very common occurence

[unborn vault]

I want those

[normal parcel]

Too bad wilkstrom has no ex

[unborn vault]

I probably would have done it with better gears and 5/5

I got all crits on the sync and the correct amount of mprs. Managed to drop the def to -2 while still getting 4 syncs

I'll settle down with this tbh, no point going further...

[normal parcel]

With 5/5 alone you should have scored around 825k

(If your Courtney is 3/5)

[unborn vault]

Yes

My gears are +65 and +4% with sync

So +100 possiblt would have cut it

[cloud timber]

yep +100 from skill gear nearly doubles his attack compared to no gear from 5* 0/20 since shield forme base attack is 113 (before stat boosts from grid though)

ran through the calc on pomatools to be sure

still very hard to work with in sword forme with with how ridiculously frail he is

gets cs2 and double down 5 (both on grid) to boost his syncs but not more than that

[normal parcel]

Not that stuffs like acid will kill sword forme in dc

[cloud timber]

ye dc will be a decent environment

still gets outclassed by steven if you have him probably

[normal parcel]

It gets outclassed by corless because it doesn't have an ex and it has bad sync multipliers

I don't think Steven is that good even for aoe

[copper otter]

Colress might be able to solo Steel ST lets be honest

[normal parcel]

Not solo because it has no self buffs, but definitely it can be the only damage dealer

[copper otter]

What can immediately give him +6 attack and +3 crit?

That's all he needs then gg

[sacred badger]

i think you could slap

SC Selene in there

[copper otter]

SZ truuuu

Can also slap Larry for the 20% boost on rebuff

[cloud timber]

hilbert gives buffs but you still want seun/rebuff/zone

3/5 kabu buffs a little slower but has the bonus of one seun at least

[sacred badger]

the problem i have with Colress for ST Steel, is you've got 2 Sync Nodes.

1 is easy enough, paralyze

the other is Towering Force :x

[copper otter]

Def buffs is easy since that's his TM

[normal parcel]

Hilbert can give him +6 +3 and also +2 def, but SC selene with an mpr will be ideal for him

[sacred badger]

still needs the +2 tbh ;_;

[copper otter]

Haudy Hau

[normal parcel]

Selene can give him all it needs

[sacred badger]

OH WAIT A SEc

[normal parcel]

Hilbert too (but no steel zone)

[sacred badger]

+2 DEF 😮

[copper otter]

Ice st is going to be holarious too

[sacred badger]

that mean Redlax for SEUN 😮

[normal parcel]

Hilbert gives +2 def, and selene can give def by just using metal claw (or bullet punch)

Metal claw is also pretty fast

And can also debuff defense

[copper otter]

So optimal steel ST team would be colress/SC Selene/ SC Steven?

[cloud timber]

hop buffs even slower with tm mpr reliance but has this on top of his normal gauge free behemoth bashes and adr on grid

should you find any time to attack with hop

also steel theme ofc

[sacred badger]

i'd do Redlax

[normal parcel]

Behemoth bash I think is super slow animation

[copper otter]

Redlax won't have rebuff

[sacred badger]

i might 2/5 my SC Selene for it though

oh

whose syncing? Selene?

[copper otter]

Colress

Selene has SZ on demand

[normal parcel]

For st corless should sync

[sacred badger]

Oh from the get go 😮

i see

Still would want 2/5 for TM Refresh for SC Selene though :/

[normal parcel]

I feel that poppy may be insane for steel weak (for who has her)

[sacred badger]

andd SZ TM Refresh

[normal parcel]

Sync isn't the bestest single target but 500+bp gigaton hammer should do insane damage

[copper otter]

You would need to set poopy up on that

[cloud timber]

i feel like poppy is straight up the best damage dealer single target

[copper otter]

But yea... ratioed by:

[normal parcel]

Unless the animation is slower than blooming mortal spin

[copper otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/651487042886172682/1240716746080391318/bonk.gif

[sacred badger]

setting up for 10 SMUN is itchy though.

[cloud timber]

10 pmun but that equates to 4x iirc

[copper otter]

Sc steven

+4 each time at 3/5

And tm mpr allows easy +10

You could technically also do Argenta SD

[cloud timber]

only 1 sync buff in that clip too

[copper otter]

I kind of want to do a DC run but I edit in EEnE sounds just because i'm bored. But i won't be able to this weekend

I've come to the conclusion that I love theorycrafting sets and ideas, but despise executing them myself

[cloud timber]

yea theory is very fun

and execution is a drag

hopes and dreams vs reality

guessing it'll be better to spend time spamming poppy's b move than go for +1 pmun from argenta sd per use

[vernal condor]

Fun to see people still theorycraft for Steel ST when I already sent the 2 potential best team some days ago and yeah one is colress SC Selene red

[copper otter]

Idk about red tbh

What is he doing thst colress can already do?

Sync accel is nice and all but colress T-wave is so fast that sync accel from redlax is arguably slower

SC steven at least provides rebuff and SEUP for nuking. Crit buffs, Sc Selene can top him as well as attack buffs

[cloud timber]

where's colress getting more than +2 attack from

[copper otter]

Selene

Tm mpr

[cloud timber]

ah

missed reading the tm

i can't buy into the idea that colress competes with poppy regardless

even with colress tech ex and poppy none

[copper otter]

Selene, ayo???

DC 9

I know colress has screech, buut.... bullet punch flincj with def drop sounds kinda nice to avoid a 3rd/4th screech

[cloud timber]

ye the flinch def saves some time though idk the animation length

and if it's even a net gain

[copper otter]

She also has metal claw

Which is very fast

[cloud timber]

tru

[sacred badger]

arae you going to use SC Steven's BMove for it?

[cloud timber]

she doesn't seem like a nuker in any sense

oh that's not the one that applies seun or pmun

kinda hard to track what “it” means when i'm working with many kits i'm unfamiliar with

[copper otter]

Why? Screech is there.

Yeesh.

[cloud timber]

bored and can't sleep so i'm here anyway lol

[copper otter]

Tate might be the best sync nuker, but his twave spam is more unreliable

He does have doom desire tho

....oh that's kinda respectable ngl. But the animation time

[cloud timber]

rising tide + static shock 9 but less role compression

and charm helps less directly than screech

[copper otter]

Every attack done does spdef drops

But doom desire raises a random stat to everyonr

[warped gulch]

Imagine waiting for Doom Desire animation

[cloud timber]

ok yeah equivalent of metal sound then

[vernal condor]

Supp ex

[vernal condor]

Not, bullet punch is too slow

With her you TM twice on Colress, you metal claw twice and after that it's just zone

[cloud timber]

got it

[vernal condor]

I think that's how it will go

If you run team sentry on colress you dont metal claw at all