Damage Challenge

[copper otter]

Nah.

Ghost is doable

[warped gulch]

Ghost is ok

[thin wren]

wait is ground the worst type in the game rn?

[warped gulch]

Morty will handle it

[normal parcel]

The optimal damage dealer is f2p so the difference between f2p and premium is just relax/SC Steven

[copper otter]

Feels like it tbh

[crude sandal]

No, Anni Lillie

[thin wren]

ground really needs a buff the most huh

[civic island]

ScSteven Redlax are the true difference
If it's for physical dmg scSteven is damn good
For example I have fRoxane but w/o him can't make her shine (def drop n speed drop)
Redlax is an all purpose units, always nice

[thin wren]

I have sc Steven 1/5. Is that good enough?

[civic island]

Guess I have to keep fRoxanne for vs3

[cursive linden]

Next time he comes, i MUST get redlax

[civic island]

Yes

[thin wren]

never candied him

[civic island]

You got everything at base

[thin wren]

should have gotten him from half Anni guaranteed ticket. L

[forest forge]

https://youtu.be/ToxeFubAZvg?si=UnOd_s2PrJbo6u10

[normal parcel]

Outside of st DC ground isn't that bad, but for st DC it doesn't have much options

[bold star]

My Courtney was 2/5, used all my hoenn tickets and got her to 3/5 which is good but she is doing way less sync damage than if she was 5/5

[thin wren]

what's the top score rn

[fiery rose]

So this one is what, Courtney/Colress/???

[thin wren]

even outside dc it doesn't do much

[real wind]

So Ghost Multi next week huh... Anni Lillie or SSR Cynthia (Note: Both have EX Role Unlocked)

[thin wren]

Courtney,bp barry, sc Steven

[normal parcel]

However ground AOE will be pain for f2p

[thin wren]

ssrc by far

[fiery rose]

Ah ok so it's still paraspam, seun, dps

[thin wren]

*sync spam

[normal parcel]

Anni Lillie is pretty bad

[thin wren]

you don't click dps much

[crude sandal]

Anni Lillie worse than Morty/Fantina?

[fiery rose]

Yeah so... What if you don't have SEUN

[slender venture]

Morty sure I think

[civic island]

Nah if you're getting 1M here you'll do just better on vs3

[cloud timber]

went for 3 rock smashes in this one

[normal parcel]

Yes, tech exr doesn't makes up for atrocious sync multipliers

[slender venture]

It doesn't work like that

3 enemies = more enemy moves

[fiery rose]

Bc I just... Don't have SEUN available

[forest forge]

This is prob the hardest 1m to get I wouldn’t worry about not getting it

[slender venture]

How?

[normal parcel]

I mean if they don't have acid I don't know if they will act much more

[crude sandal]

I guess. Also Morty's sync is physical so he benefits from Colress I suppose

[forest forge]

There are no good ground units that’s how

[slender venture]

But the best is f2p lol

[thin wren]

.....is everyone suffering from acid or is it just me?

[normal parcel]

Morty has 200% sync multiplier, Lillie I think has like 30%

[civic island]

They don't queue 3 moves all at once, it's pretty much the same sure some move animation may vary but overall it's close

[fiery rose]

It's not about 1m, it's more that my best ever is like, just over 500k

[thin wren]

*20%

[real wind]

This Ground Weak Single is pretty weird (I got 400k+, tho I think I can get higher)

[fiery rose]

Bc my only way of using SEUN involves rainbow tickets

To get 3/5 Regice

[cloud timber]

she has it at 1/5

[thin wren]

why do the enemies have acid

[fiery rose]

MPR

[atomic ore]

They have a higher total speed when it's vs. 3 so you can't spam queue as much in my experience.
So it's a bit different from just the same but x3.

[slender venture]

Poison 1mil was so much worse for f2p, you can't say ground is worse

[normal parcel]

She could technically get seun but is too RNG heavy if you don't plan to use moongeist beam

[atomic ore]

I wish they didn't want me to have yet another Red for this.

[real wind]

The Acid sometimes trips me a bit

[thin wren]

poison was at least good for the less f2p

acid trip

literally

[forest forge]

Poison had multiple units that could hit 1m or more

[normal parcel]

Ground is much f2p friendly

[forest forge]

Ground probably has just 1

[slender venture]

I mean that was basically Oleana and SS Roxie(with whome some also struggled with 1mil)

[thin wren]

ground is bad for everyone lol

[normal parcel]

Koga was much worse than Courtney

[thin wren]

still for everyone combined I think ground is worse

[fiery rose]

How necessary is MPR on SEUN for this mode

[cloud timber]

it isn't

[real wind]

Ground Multi would probably me easier than Ground Single but hey that's just a theory (cuz we haven't tried that stage yet)

[cloud timber]

courtney has one of her own

[thin wren]

f2p definitely better tho

[normal parcel]

Ground is f2p friendly but also an equalizer

[forest forge]

You say f2p but are you including all of the sync pairs or just courtney

[crude sandal]

For 2 sync buffs, this is pretty awesome

[blissful wyvern]

Well, this is it for me

[slender venture]

There is a Courtney 950k full f2p clear

Courtney, SS Elesa and Colress

[thin wren]

what's the highest rn

[slender venture]

Koga peak was like 600k

[thin wren]

expected

[normal parcel]

You can still score decently without redlax and Steven (but generally pure f2p never gets 1m)

[forest forge]

Ok so you need giga rng for this that sounds not fun

[real wind]

Has anyone tried Bertha in this run (just curious)

[blissful wyvern]

1192565

[warped gulch]

That need insane gears tho

[thin wren]

not even 1.3 mil????

[cloud timber]

peaked 300k lol

[strange notch]

Is this DC single target or AOE

[copper otter]

This crap is bs

ST

[atomic ore]

Ah, gears...

😔

[warped gulch]

Look at this

[atomic ore]

My beloathed.

[warped gulch]

[strange notch]

Oh my fucking god

[thin wren]

st. It alternates

[strange notch]

ST ground? 🤡

What the actual

[fiery rose]

Also is SEUN worth more than rebuff?

[slender venture]

Those are very vague questions

[thin wren]

the peak is not even 1.2 mil btw@strange notch

[slender venture]

It depends

[copper otter]

The only sync nuker for this is courtney, and it is miserable

[strange notch]

☠️

THIS GAMEMODE SUCKS

[fiery rose]

As in do I run Dana for SEUN or SC Lyra for rebuff

[copper otter]

Genuinely hate using her

[normal parcel]

I guess there are 4 tiers, f2p > f2p + red/Steven > not optima premium > and optimal premium

[blissful wyvern]

This is Courtney 5/5, SC Steven 2/5 and BP Berry 5/5. Courtney has SP3, both the other SP have HS1

[thin wren]

this stage sucks

[blissful wyvern]

Normal Ground Gear 3*

[copper otter]

Haha funny acid sp def drops

[strange notch]

I am now firmly in the “Hate DC” group tbh, Bug was already bad but this is just the last straw

[thin wren]

Steven should be after red as redlax has been given for free before

[copper otter]

Haha you wanted to sync no, waste your time

[thin wren]

bug aoe wasn't bad

[strange notch]

For F2P it was unplayable

[thin wren]

why do they have ACID

[lapis yarrow]

How hard is it to get specific gear like that?

[civic island]

He took seriously the talk abt Opp Para SMove % meta 📈

[atomic ore]

Personally I don't hate the mode just because it's a permanent thing, I'll just look at the sessions like this as future investment opportunities mainly.

[slender venture]

Again with the hate dc thing, when the rewards are shit and 1mil is not a requirement

[copper otter]

My trainer in Pasio, Guzma got 1 mil

[thin wren]

it had a 1.1 mil

full f2p

[atomic ore]

There's no rush so I'm not horribly flustered about getting sub-1 million.

I didn't even get 500k for Poison-type DC.

[strange notch]

And what about Poison ST

[thin wren]

650k

[copper otter]

Poison ST had Koga at 650k

[slender venture]

But why is that 1 mil even important for you

[sacred badger]

i think hitting 500k and above is fine... 😦

[slender venture]

The mode is permanent, the rewards are permanent

[thin wren]

it's a satisfying number

[copper otter]

It's not about the 1 mil....

[cosmic wing]

Yeah, for F2P team aiming for 500k is easier

[normal parcel]

I guess having one of them should be enough for most clears, but I guess exr redlax is generally better overall if you can't have both and he's definitely more f2p friendly (even if most players probably choose Lucas)

[atomic ore]

Personally I just try to do decently well enough & call it a day.

[thin wren]

people chose Lucas?

[strange notch]

It’s just the general trend we seem to be following

[slender venture]

And then the mode is not frustrating at all, but no it's "unplayable" and goes "against the games core mechanics"

[cunning rock]

Lucas is still the only reliable Dragon Zone setter

[thin wren]

I just aim for 700k lmao

[copper otter]

It's about gett ing oops all leon.

[atomic ore]

No, I chose Gloria.

[thin wren]

it's about the satisfying number

[cosmic wing]

I thought rock one is impossible to reach 1 million without limited pair right? Olivia team that I have seen is just a little bit above 500k

[normal parcel]

Redlax wasn't really top priority back then

[cunning rock]

The priority list was Lucas > Redlax > Gloria

[thin wren]

Rock got 1.1 mil f2p

[strange notch]

I also don’t like the time condition bc we’re all spamming colress TWave

Which is boring as shit

[cloud timber]

redlax didn't even have grid expansion at the time and i had 3/5

[thin wren]

depends on the type

[copper otter]

It's not like people didn't alrrady do that in LG for solos

[atomic ore]

Yeah, you'd require future sight to know Red would be great in a completely unannounced mode.

[normal parcel]

Pure f2p or f2p + redlax?

[atomic ore]

So it's understandable that he wasn't the top recommendation.

[cosmic wing]

I think it's part of a mechanic DeNA didn't thought for

[slender venture]

Exactly

[thin wren]

psychic and rock preferred dps

[fiery rose]

Resident shitter's best score so far

Not great but it works, kinda

[crude sandal]

How much is -3 speed kekwok again?

[copper otter]

goes against the core mechanics

Do they not know about the LG solos

[thin wren]

both

[thin wren]

probably

[fiery rose]

Just because they do it, doesn't mean it was intended

[normal parcel]

I mean without t wave spam, 1st place would be < 1m

[slender venture]

It doesn't have to be intended, you can just not do it if you are so against it and it ruins your "experience"

[cloud timber]

yep

[copper otter]

How was it not intended when it was never patched out for 4 years, and now when there is a timed event it's a problem now

[normal parcel]

So it's definitely a necessary evil

[thin wren]

the core game mechanic is sync so this is technically the closest you can get to the intended game mechanic

[copper otter]

and it's a problem that helps us?

[slender venture]

Yeah the worst take is when they say they should patch it

[cursive linden]

[slender venture]

Then goodbye to f2p 1mil clears lol

[thin wren]

this is the closest we can get to pasio's gimmick

[normal parcel]

It's not a bug is a strategy

[fiery rose]

The problem is that it's boring as hell

[civic island]

Blame reddit if it get fixed

[thin wren]

it's not even a bug to be patched?

[fiery rose]

That's virtually it, it killed the fun of the game mode

[slender venture]

It isn't

But they act like it is

[copper otter]

The people complaining about this should be Smogon mods and seethe whenever a pokemon with RNG is competitively viable

[fiery rose]

Though whether it was fun to begin with was debatable

[normal parcel]

Still less boring than getting 10 MPR on SS elesa tm

[cursive linden]

It's not cheesing
It's called "Unconventional Tactics"

[cloud timber]

yeah i really don't think you were going to have fun without it either

[cursive linden]

[thin wren]

there's still a ton of strategy for the stages so far in the team building aspect

[fiery rose]

Yeah I think the mode was doomed

[cursive saddle]

how did you do it ._.

[copper otter]

Nahn it's not doomed, it's just a mode you don't like

[fiery rose]

Is there? Bc every team I see barring Rock has been SEUN/Moveskipper/Syncer

[thin wren]

psychic?

[normal parcel]

I mean without the strat isn't even possible to reach 1m in most single target stages

[thin wren]

bug had 3 different enablers fighting

[civic island]

You can play out other teams and see how they do
I'm doing some weird comps just for fun tbh

[thin wren]

wtf did I do

[copper otter]

Besides you complaining about this won't even matter

The ranked event has reduced sync damage anyways

[slender venture]

People be like it isn't fun and then use the same broken team for onytpe CS every single time

And say that is peak poma gameplay

[atomic ore]

Not always.

[civic island]

Worse, 5 offtype setups n get CS done

[cursive linden]

How it feels to use T Wave / Stun Spore on DC and LG Solo

[normal parcel]

I mean for rock weak AOE twave spam wasn't even the meta

[thin wren]

I am starting to think dena finds it funny

[normal parcel]

Isn't that twave is always the answer

[fiery rose]

I mean CSMM is barely considered gameplay, most of the folks seem to only consider LG and UBs for what counts as gameplay

[thin wren]

t wave depends on the type

[dusk plume]

finally broke 1 mil thanks to SC Steven

[blissful wyvern]

Tbh I feel like this is almost perfect as a mode lol. I like the fact that it’s more about figuring out a strategy and that sometimes you can get to use some off the wall pairs, like Guzma and Courtney as the core of a team. On the other hand some other stages are extremely punishing like Poison, so eh

[normal parcel]

Is more that st Will become flinch/sleep spam if twave isn't available

And that is much boring

[copper otter]

Whst am i missing on Courtney that she's able to do 1 mil?

[normal parcel]

Teammates?

[thin wren]

what comp are you using

[copper otter]

Like i have towering force, i am def dropping...

[slender venture]

Looks to me like SC Steven is better than Redlax

For 1mil

[copper otter]

Scsteven/Barry/Courtney

[thin wren]

definitely

[atomic ore]

Based?

[blissful wyvern]

SP 3, Super Sync

[normal parcel]

Def dropping with who?

[atomic ore]

[copper otter]

Sc steven

[crude sandal]

I'm waiting for dragon-weak Hau 3v3 next week

[thin wren]

gear?

[atomic ore]

Steven Buddy Move carry?

[slender venture]

Yea, his speed drops also help

[thin wren]

nc nate time

[normal parcel]

Are you getting 5 syncs (including support)

[atomic ore]

That's nice, I was told his Buddy Move takes too long but I liked using it for that reason.

[crude sandal]

Well, this damage is with 2 sync buffs only

[thin wren]

his buddy move is short for b moves

[atomic ore]

That was a week or so ago.
I'm not super into the meta so I wouldn't know though.

I just went based on feelings.

[normal parcel]

His 1st use takes a lot but the other 2 aren't that slow

[fiery rose]

Ngl I don't think I've ever seen five syncs in this mode

Four is a push even with twave spam

[slender venture]

In ST it's the norm

[thin wren]

not hard to find

[warped gulch]

Speed debuff really makes up for B Move animation

[atomic ore]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

[crude sandal]

Speed debuff and kinda para slow

[copper otter]

Yea, 5 syncs. This is my gears.

[fiery rose]

Like the fourth is usually buzzer-beating or comes with extreme accel

[atomic ore]

But since I don't consider myself very good at the game I don't really comment much on strats.

[thin wren]

whose sync is stronger? Serena or nc nate

[blissful wyvern]

Also not related to the BM, but his ability to confuse can come in handy

[atomic ore]

But I'm glad to hear that it works.

[normal parcel]

Is more that the 1st b leer applies a lot of effects that stall for time, but the other 2 uses shouldn't be that slow

[fiery rose]

Maybe I need to stop having colress debuff?

[crude sandal]

Definitely Nate especially with him having field EXR

[slender venture]

Should be Nate

[crude sandal]

And Colress's Screech helps with his damage more

[thin wren]

also having colress

[slender venture]

He will outshine Zerena pretty sure

[crude sandal]

And also adds to Unova Circle (Physical)

[normal parcel]

And his b move is also solid

[atomic ore]

I got like 9 Sync Move CD reductions between a single move thanks to the Speed debuffs & Thunderwave in an earlier DC.

[copper otter]

I'm genuinely confused here. Am i supposed to use bulldoze or something?

[thin wren]

would bianca, nate,colress be optimal over lucas colress Nate?

[crude sandal]

Redlax/NC Nate/Colress

[blissful wyvern]

Btw, who should I pick as the second free pair? My first one was Marnie

[slender venture]

That field ex should cover 3 syncs

[atomic ore]

What does candies do for SC Steven for this mode actually?
Sorry if it's a stupid question.

[copper otter]

Gladion

[slender venture]

So I don't think Lucas will be good

[thin wren]

really?

[slender venture]

Just mpr on tms

[crude sandal]

SEUN is very strong and Redlax also has sprint EXR

[copper otter]

Tm mpr and an extra PMUN on tm

[cunning rock]

New PB Hugh decided to get full para'd three times in a row while I had messed up the rotation

[thin wren]

fair

[atomic ore]

I see, I see...

[normal parcel]

Seun mpr

[atomic ore]

Mine's only 1/5.

[lyric plover]

is anyone doing anything with dancing adaman

[thin wren]

no

[copper otter]

I tried with Foxanne, only got 300k

[crude sandal]

Why the hell would you use a striker on a ST stage?

[normal parcel]

I got 1.1m with 1/5

[fiery rose]

Well bright side, I get my first DC unit this Friday, assuming I can hit 300k there

[blissful wyvern]

Any insight into why?

[copper otter]

Ranked event will drop 200 tickets

[fiery rose]

I need 300

[copper otter]

And it's 1 mil damage cumulative

[normal parcel]

Steven and redlax don't really need more than 1/5

[cursive linden]

[fiery rose]

Oh no 30, cocked the count

[crude sandal]

Both of them would be strong on the ranked DC

[thin wren]

....

[cursive linden]

OK NO NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THE FUCKING TICKETS ANYMORE

[fiery rose]

1mil cumulative is gonna be impossible, I struggle for 330k on most stages

[thin wren]

it's about strongest

[sacred badger]

just get 1m points right? D:

[copper otter]

Cumulative yes

[cursive linden]

Most probably Zerena

[fiery rose]

Like what types is it again

[thin wren]

eh

[crude sandal]

Nah, NC Nate is definitely stronger

[normal parcel]

You aren't supposed to nuke in this dragon ranked, but you can use both for dps

[thin wren]

is her sync really stronger?

[azure hornet]

Best I've been able to manage

[cursive linden]

We can use the same charatcer on ranked DC right???

[atomic ore]

Nice to hear.
I've mainly been using him & BP Barry as my go-to duo since the Poison-type one.

[crude sandal]

That's my point

[cursive linden]

Right????

[copper otter]

Day 534 of asking Dena why Zerena wasn't made into a Ground type

[cursive linden]

[unique abyss]

No

[thin wren]

I am talking about non ranked dragon

[thin wren]

no

[azure hornet]

Core Enforcer is needed for Zygrade 100%

[copper otter]

Paing

[rapid sparrow]

Rip

[unique abyss]

Damn, i dont have the third seun user

[normal parcel]

You can't use an unit in more than 1 battle ,(like cs/hs)

[thin wren]

@rapid sparrow how are you doing in this dc?

[warped gulch]

How he can confuse?

[rapid sparrow]

600k-ish
No detective Dog hurts

[blissful wyvern]

Tackle

[warped gulch]

Not at 1/5 tho

[azure hornet]

Flabbergasted

[thin wren]

confusion is bad

[plush palm]

finally

[blissful wyvern]

Nope

[thin wren]

adds animation time

[plush palm]

im done here woohoo

[rapid sparrow]

Yooooo
Red caked yeah?

[plush palm]

yes

[rapid sparrow]

Can't replicate

[crude sandal]

HS1 or ADR1?

[thin wren]

is 3/5 needed

[rapid sparrow]

Why not both

[crude sandal]

Yes, for Adrenaline in grid

[thin wren]

bleh

[plush palm]

my gear

[normal parcel]

It can't confuse and you definitely don't want confusion in DC, that confusion animation is terrible for DC

[thin wren]

confusion is garbage for dc

[blissful wyvern]

2/5 tackle has flabbergasted

[normal parcel]

But still you don't want to to ever apply confusion, unless your only viable nuker really relies on that

[atomic ore]

You will regret this when the confusion self-damage is what bumps your score up from 999k to 1 million. /j

[normal parcel]

The chance of self infliction is pretty low

[cursive linden]

I am so flabbergasted that you want Flabbergasted for DC events

[normal parcel]

And generally Barely makes up for the time wasted on the confusion birds

[cursive linden]

[normal parcel]

At least trap is guaranteed to chip for damage (and is still enough to make fall Roxanne not viable)

Trap and confusion are the worst, sand, hail, poison and burn are pretty bad too

And I guess stuffs like stealth rock are pretty bad too

[unique abyss]

Noooooo

1M run bye bye

[copper otter]

Mood

[waxen hamlet]

Is courtney the best ground type for this stage?

[copper otter]

Yes

And she's still miserable to use

[normal parcel]

Why you have 0 x defense on Courtney?

[unique abyss]

She has many buffs

[waxen hamlet]

Well I probably won't reach 1 mil then

[unique abyss]

That was her second page

[cursive linden]

Because she has sooo many buffs that it cant be fully displayed

[copper otter]

Top 1 is barely 1.2 mil

[normal parcel]

Generally you should get MPR and she maxes out wit just 1 x defend use

[copper otter]

Just to show you how miserable it is

[waxen hamlet]

I'll try to get at least 500k then

[ivory kestrel]

At least with this dc, noone can whale the top scores lol

[waxen hamlet]

Won't put much effort into it

[normal parcel]

You should go tm tm tm x def

[copper otter]

You know what? Imma just see what Foxanne can cook up despite trap animations.

[normal parcel]

If you x def twice you waste time

[faint quiver]

And Top 3 is within 10k of each other.

[rare apex]

[normal parcel]

If you have NC Rosa you can try sing spam

It will negate trap animation if the opponent can't move

I would try that if I had fall Roxanne

[unique abyss]

Still you waste time with her sing animation

[cursive linden]

Did you spam tackle?

I want to know

[normal parcel]

But opponent won't attack

And you can still spam some sings while asleep

Sing animation should be still faster than acid

Expecially if it debuffs

[rare apex]

tackle once at start with dc2 proc, then two b-moves

[normal parcel]

If you want to use trap/confusion you should really make sure the opponent won't move so it won't proc those and won't get rid of them

[rare apex]

got over 1mil there

[cursive linden]

Just 2 b leer?

[rare apex]

yup

[cursive linden]

And then spam stun spire?

Oh........

[rare apex]

yup yup

[cursive linden]

I... i might have uhhh

[rare apex]

save SEUP for courtney's last two syncs

[cursive linden]

spamed tackle and b leer

[waxen hamlet]

Does anyone have a screenshot of what courtney grid I should use?

[normal parcel]

You shouldn't spam tackle

But I used all 3 b leer

[waxen hamlet]

And also is steven better than red?

[rare apex]

+10E, adjust accordingly

[warped gulch]

Finally, good roll dmg

Stuck with CS2 doesn’t fun at all

[normal parcel]

A bit, because it applies rebuff, but red has an easier time getting to 5th sync if exr

[warped gulch]

[cursive linden]

You dont need sharp entry if you use the mpr grid

[copper otter]

Nah, foxanne can't do it.

[cursive linden]

Too slow?

[waxen hamlet]

Thanks

[copper otter]

200k with ground zone, trap, and speed drops

As well as def drops

[rare comet]

SP3 lucky skill and +6 energy on courtney, regular 3* max ground gear

[cloud timber]

i feel like with trap or sand or stuff you can only afford to apply it for two syncs max

[warped gulch]

Yeah, really horrible

Especially Hugh has fk 1 bar move too

[cloud timber]

this was my bertha pb

[normal parcel]

That can also debuffs spdef for extra time wasted

[torn lily]

What’s the squence?

[warped gulch]

Yeah, Acid just horrible

[faint quiver]

1 bar move that can debuff and X Defense, like they really went all the way to screw with us lmao

[warped gulch]

Aoe move, 1 bar, 10% debuff SpDef

[faint quiver]

Dragon Pulse and Acid take so long to move as well.

[warped gulch]

[rare apex]

can't wait for ssrc stonks next

[cloud timber]

frfr

[normal parcel]

Will still be annoying to setup her nuke

[unique abyss]

Finally

[warped gulch]

Idk who better tbh, SSR Cynthia or SC Irida ?

[normal parcel]

Spdef drops aren't the most accessible thing in dc

[faint quiver]

Lenora/ReneCynthia/Redlax is my plan.

[normal parcel]

Cynthia has ghost zone but irida nuke should be easier to setup

[rare comet]

I didn’t start stun spore spam until courtneys 1st sync, got 2xpara on eelektross and was able to squeeze in 2 bulldozes in the end

[civic island]

Cynthia

[normal parcel]

Ghost zone probably gives her the edge

However if they are similar I would pick irida because she has guaranteed crit

[nova remnant]

Colress sure would be nice

[copper otter]

GUYS.

[normal parcel]

You can't really expect to always crit all 3 targets every sync with just 80% crit rate

[copper otter]

GUYS GUYS GUYS.

[warped gulch]

No SC Steven ?

[copper otter]

Let me cook here.... LET ME COOK.

THAT WAS DPS

100k per B move

[nova remnant]

I do have him how many leers should I do? 1 and done?

[unique abyss]

Lmao, I dont own him, but wasnt his b move aoe?

[warped gulch]

3

[rare comet]

You need to use all 3

[normal parcel]

I did all 3 leer

[civic island]

Similar in the dmg chart?
They forgot to pop 6EX for cynthia

[warped gulch]

You always Sync in times if you got 0 SpDef debuff from Acid

[nova remnant]

Aight hopefully I'll get SEUN MPR

[dusk plume]

stalwart

[rare comet]

You can ignore the mpr with courtneys +6 energy she gets SEUN after sync, and you only need 3 total

[warped gulch]

HS1 or Adrenaline just better

And it still wastes some time

~~Ofc my SC Steven and Bp Barry have Stalwart already ~~

[dusk plume]

Barry has Stalwart on grid

[warped gulch]

Even with this it still waste time

[azure hornet]

What a gear

[rare apex]

this shit is why i don't like skill gear

[azure hornet]

Psychic and Paralysis, Calem doing 200 extra damage with this one

[rare apex]

:dogwow:.gif

[devout pelican]

I hate damage variable

[neat raft]

wow this stage sucks

courtney kept refusing to crit

wtf

[crude sandal]

Welcome to my world in another game

[nova remnant]

500k not bad from an non EX 3/5 Courtney

[copper otter]

Ayo? HOLD UP NOW.

Maybe.

[teal haven]

what do I do if my colress and barry are 2/5 and I can't efficiently spam, aside from giving up and burying myself in a hole

[crude sandal]

Use EleSSa spam

[teal haven]

[icy pendant]

Why does Courtney feel like the most variable clear so far? I’m between 400 and 700k on every clear following the exact same sequence

[ivory kestrel]

This…. could’ve gone much smoother if Courtney had Cakewalk. And Cakewalk fits her kit so nicely…

[warped gulch]

Did you fully buff her ?

[icy pendant]

yep

[warped gulch]

With +6 Def too

[icy pendant]

she gets to +6 after her first sync so +5 beforehand

[warped gulch]

So you just missed crit so much

[tall musk]

Any SS Gio clears or is he too slow for DC

[icy pendant]

yeah it’s either I miss crit or I’m one sync too slow

[nova remnant]

@warped gulch you think a non EX Courtney could go higher above 500k?

[warped gulch]

Idk, bc EX just helps her too much

Bc she has Mega Sync so already lose a lot of Sync dmg

[faint quiver]

Did Elektross' paralysis proc-ed? You need at least one depends on your rotation.

[nova remnant]

Hmm

[cloud timber]

if ex reaches 1m non-ex can reach 666k

[warped gulch]

I didn’t need para proc

But i must not get SpDef debuff too

[nova remnant]

How much does sync level matters? Mine is only 3/5

She has full kit yeah

But missing a little bit of damage sync buff

[cloud timber]

should be 7% weaker than 5/5

[ashen cave]

Well, I decided to check it again

[cloud timber]

on her syncs specifically

[sullen zephyr]

should i spend all my unova tickets to try and get colress to 3/5?

[prisma quail]

How are the Camerupt/Roserade/Stoutland teams working...?

She'd have to buff all her attack, def, and crit herself

[cloud timber]

yea that's the optimal team

[warped gulch]

Yep, 3 tm + 1x def

[cloud timber]

go for it, i tried but didn't manage in 7 pulls

[prisma quail]

This then?

[oak dune]

[azure hornet]

Am I really about to 2/5 SC Steven

[oak dune]

Nothing from 2/5 helps

[warped gulch]

Time to roll better gear

[vapid kernel]

WENWEN HI

[brazen dew]

2/5 courtney, 2/5 maxie, only got 260k

[vapid kernel]

Someones back

[nova remnant]

Hmm guess I'll EX Courtney, wouldn't be a bad investment since I've been itching for a new ground type to use for CSMM

[cursive linden]

Courtney had she had Cakewalk instead of Hunter's Instinct

https://tenor.com/view/broly-dbz-dragon-ball-z-gif-12198767

[oak dune]

Hi

[brave basin]

What's the courtney 1m strategy?

[warped gulch]

Cant wait for ST Rock

[icy pendant]

this is a time I actually hit 5 syncs and noticed one of them didn’t crit, still feels like I’m missing something though

[primal blade]

How do ppl get to sync 5 with courtney?!

[oak dune]

I only use Steven leer twice

[brave basin]

His tms too?

[oak dune]

So I can squeeze in 4 Courtney syncs

Didn't use TM

[brave basin]

Ah

[primal blade]

Did you also sync with barry?

[sullen zephyr]

[brave basin]

So just bp barry spam?

[oak dune]

I guess I can use TM if I get a para proc

[warped gulch]

You dont need para proc for 3 Steven Leer

[icy pendant]

bud missed every crit?

[oak dune]

First sync with Barry yes

[warped gulch]

But any SpDef drop from Acid just mean reset time

[brave basin]

So it's like

[primal blade]

When did you use her zone?

[sullen zephyr]

Courtney why did your sync only deal twice the damage of your move?

[warped gulch]

This is my non 1m clear, but i used CS2 so SP3 can get to 1m easy

[sullen zephyr]

I'm not sure what happened

[brave basin]

Bp barry spam

2 uses of courtney tm and then 1 of defence

Sync with Barry then tm, and then back to spam his move?

[oak dune]

Barry sync - zone + SEUP sync - sync - zone + SEUP sync - SEUP sync

[nova remnant]

3 Courtney TM

[oak dune]

Second Courtney sync gets SEUP from herself

[warped gulch]

@brave basin does your Courtney have SP3 ?

[brave basin]

Idk, lemme check

[warped gulch]

If not it is a pain to get 1m

[sullen zephyr]

Is EXing gonna drastically improve this?

[cursive saddle]

Pykuo can a redlax Colress team get 1M

apart from that one guy who used broken skill gears

[warped gulch]

Yes, i saw some one did it already

[brave basin]

Sp3 was on her grid?

[warped gulch]

Lucky Skill

[cursive saddle]

sp3 is necessary

[brave basin]

Oh

[warped gulch]

CS2 can kinda work

But requires a lot of high roll dmg

[brave basin]

No sp3 sadly

And I have no cookies for that

[warped gulch]

Then it’ll be very bs

Does your Courtney have extra Energy?

[cloud timber]

nothing to worry about if you're not desperate to push 1m

[vast glade]

Hi, everyone. I got the Courtney, SC Steven and BP Barry grids but I'd like to know the move order? Max I got was 750k so I'd like to figure where I am doing wrong. Can you help, please?

[oak dune]

Get a para roll and use one last SEUP stomp can help, I guess

[brave basin]

Nope sadly

[gentle locust]

I still can't stop laughing about the fact I got 1 mil on bug 3v1 with vigilance on SC Barry without even knowing it

[sacred badger]

super powered? 😭

[gentle locust]

I was wondering in fact why his dmg was lower than usual

[dusk plume]

This is what I used:
Courtney: TM x3, X Def, Ground Wish before 2nd sync and again before zone runs out
Steven: Tackle, B-move x3, TMs on Courtney, then chill until SEUN on Courtney before 4th and 5th sync
Barry: Stun Spore and nothing else

[rare apex]

ye but i got 1m+ on the attempt after

[rapid sparrow]

Caked Red too?

Red has to be caked for 1mil clear

[icy pendant]

yep

[sullen zephyr]

should courtney pick up the sharp entry node? redlax can top off her crit

[copper otter]

@tall musk

[rare apex]

if she's getting delete mpr it's unnecessary

[copper otter]

That was with perfect mprs too

[warped gulch]

Yeah,….. just use Courtney

[tall musk]

oof

[vast glade]

More or less what I am using. I assume you burn Steven's moves before 2nd sync, right?

[prisma quail]

Someone said to only use Steven Bmove twice.

That got me about 130k more points, beause I reached another sync safely

[warped gulch]

Did you miss any crit

[prisma quail]

Maybe 🤷‍♂️

[rare apex]

when did you use SEUPs?

[warped gulch]

Bc it has same pts as my 2 miss crit run

[icy pendant]

oof still missed one crit and it was the fourth sync

they’re gonna make me roll for sp3 aren’t they

[prisma quail]

It's a shame WW3 doesn't affect TZ

[dusk plume]

Yep, I had Adrenaline 1 on Barry so it was Adrenaline1 BLeer XDef - StunSpore Steven'sTM - StunSpore Steven'sTM - StunSpore GroundWish to 2nd sync (Courtney's first)

[unique abyss]

I use all 4 tm and get consistently 5th sync, no need for mpr (adrenaline barry and hs1 steven)

[dire spade]

I really really really hated that DC... Courtney has SP3

[prisma quail]

This is way better than poison at least

[warped gulch]

Courtney/Bp Barry/SC Steven move rotation

I missed 2 crit, no para proc, got 1 SpDef debuff and used CS2

[unique abyss]

I tried to roll better skill gear for Courtney and got this, why not sync moves? It would be perfect for Cerena or Irida

[warped gulch]

But this never need para proc for 5th Sync

But 2 SpDef drop is insta reset unless you get 1 para proc for it

[azure hornet]

Finally

[sacred badger]

5 syncss D:

[vernal condor]

@sterile pilot for future clears with that team (colress + elesa + dps), can you put 3/5 colress in the grid? Since it's his actual move lvl

[unique abyss]

That galactic hq theme

[warped gulch]

@sacred badger you can see it rotation here

Idk why almost everyone save Ground Zone before 4th Sync, but best is use it early so you dont get animation when it disappears

[rare apex]

smart idea

[sullen zephyr]

how do i save a discord message

[warped gulch]

@brave basin you can check this rotation, i didn’t give SC Steven or Bp Barry Hs1 or Adrenaline

[brave basin]

Who has the Courtney and Barry grids?

[vernal condor]

right click to copy the link

[dire spade]

Tfw when first place (atm) only did 1.12 M damage
That almost screams for a MF ground tech, joking

[brave basin]

Lemme see

[warped gulch]

.

[brave basin]

Which grids?

[copper otter]

@warped gulch can you dm me the skill gear video?

[chilly sierra]

Fall Roxanne syncs harder than Courtney right?

[dire spade]

Genuine question, does Adrenaline screw quad queue?

[copper otter]

No

[sacred flower]

anyone used 1/5 SC Adaman?

[rain copper]

He is bad here

Use Courtney instead

[copper otter]

Gonna be honest everyone, i do feel like VGio can do it. But there's some oomph missing.

[warped gulch]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=009003050801&s0=1&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=18020401&t0=11111&g0=&v1=022200032300&s1=5&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=4444&g1=AAECAwQFFRgZIyUmJygqLS8&v2=009900040700&s2=5&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=0&t2=11111&g2=AAEEBggLDRAaHB4hJCYp

[sacred flower]

figure so, gonna use her then

[warped gulch]

Ok

[chilly sierra]

TL;DR
3v1 - Use Tech unit
3v3 - Use Tech unit (with Strike EXR)

[copper otter]

Turned DMs on here, you should be able to message.

[warped gulch]

Sending

My gears isn’t that strong tho

[rare apex]

oh shit I'm top 10 lmao

[faint quiver]

Top 1 and 2 is just 700 pts difference.

[cursive saddle]

is there no p2w team for this type lmao

[cloud timber]

sc steven is somewhat p2w imo but you aren't reaching the same numbers as previous rotations regardless of what you have yea

there is a shot that v gio can actually outperform though

[fiery rose]

The general thing is that bluntly we have 1 recent ground tech and it's Courtney

[devout pelican]

I'm done. SP3 for Courtney. HS1 for the other two. Gear is 3star Ground

[sweet grail]

same

only got 1m rounded

[inland urchin]

Not too bad with just CS2 I guess

[warped gulch]

Only 97 peoples reach 1m rn

[rare apex]

hmm. ghost and dragon should be alright since they're 3v3

little concerned about ST flying though

though i do have 3/5 cheren

[warped gulch]

For f2p

L Skyla or Darach better ?

[cloud timber]

has to be skyla

[tall musk]

L Skyla I assume

[rare apex]

i imagine for nuking, lodge serena might be the play

[tall musk]

I wonder how NC Cheren will do

[cloud timber]

just for all damage dealing

[fiery rose]

Idk, she relies on debuffs a lot for her multis iirc.

[tall musk]

I kinda wish they had a normal damage challenge

[rare apex]

she has inertia, kekwalk and dominating sync 2

[warped gulch]

Who has Palmer :

[cloud timber]

def feels bad that larry is relegated to support and is rarely optimal there too

[tall musk]

Infinite HP means he always does max damage with Crush Grip

[cloud timber]

normal rebuffs always wasted

[vernal condor]

[vernal condor]

imagine not wishing for a normal challenge

wait i think i forgor to remove the ping sry

[raven saffron]

How many syncs did you get

This is best I could do

[vernal condor]

yeah same

[tall musk]

No you removed the ping it's ok

[vernal condor]

but I think if you screech only 3 times you can squeeze another sync

since sc steven can allow for 1 more sync despite leer being slow af

[warped gulch]

Mostly bc SC Steven debuff to -6 Speed too

[vernal condor]

ah, right

guess it's time to ex bp barry

[warped gulch]

[left vine]

How annoying was it to do with this team, any special gears?

[dense citrus]

Idk what I'm doing wrong at this point..

[primal blade]

while the fact that Courtney, a semi-free unit is, currently, the best unit for this DC, I still find this whole thing way too RNG dependent, seriously if more than 1 Acid makes u lose sp.def it's time to restart, not to mention the fact that you A: must not miss and crits with courtney (happens way too much) and B: hoping she gets a refresh on her TM (since it either refreshes at start or not is not as bad as missing a crit) if not using Redlax. all in all i still find DC to be extremely annoying...

[copper otter]

This one is the worst of it because ground is down bad

That doesn't mean DC as a whole is bad. Just this one.

[devout pelican]

You need at least one para proc on Acid

[copper otter]

@warped gulch

[devout pelican]

But really, DeNA are sadist for using such a lengthy move

[copper otter]

No video?

[warped gulch]

For what ?

[prisma quail]

Real life timers, and moves not taking the same time for animation.

It's ruined the fun of this mode for me

[warped gulch]

Bc everyone do the same team i just lazy tho

[copper otter]

The skill gears

[prisma quail]

Runerigus sync nuke is so crazy high.

But so bad for this mode, and it makes me sad.

[warped gulch]

I already dm you

[copper otter]

Wait, i thought i remember someone saying you could SR the skill gears.

[primal blade]

exactly, if only moves were the same time length animation-wise it would be much better, not to mention any random stat debuff/buff or field effects applying or going away also takes time...

[warped gulch]

Yes

I said that in HS channel

[prisma quail]

It feels so stupid to have a game mode that removes any value from:
Defense buffing
Enemy debuffing
Buddy moves
Trap/burn/poison strats
Normal type damage (and Regigigas was built for a mode fighting enemies at 100% health.)

[warped gulch]

#1128052735967764621 message

[nova remnant]

Got my 1mil

[prisma quail]

So many major game mechanics are bad here.
It's annoying

[primal blade]

Also makes Larry worse since he could both be as strong as Palmer, and could even help other types with his on-type rebuff

[prisma quail]

Ttars buddy move is going to be one of the only times non-sync damage was a major player.

[primal blade]

when we get 3v3 Fairy NC Gladion would be the same

[chilly sierra]

Does Courtney sync harder or Fall Roxanne?

[warped gulch]

No

[primal blade]

if u manage to get all multipliers then roxanne by a mile, but DC wont give u that time

[warped gulch]

But F Roxanne cant sync as fast as Courtney

[nova remnant]

Courtney is the MVP here

[eternal pecan]

What grid for Courtney if I’m using Classic Red instead of SC Steven?

[rain copper]

Roxanne has higher ceiling but Courtney's comps allow her to nuke harder

[tall musk]

Could I get a high score with Red and Barry?

I don't have SC Steven

[primal blade]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/22200/32300?s=5&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFFRgZIyUoKSotLi8

[prisma quail]

Runerigus syncs way higher.

But Camerupt is WAY better in this game mode, because it has "super syncer" on grid, sets its own zone, and doesn't have to spend animation time on trap

[sturdy pebble]

Bro kept this secret for 3 months

[primal blade]

DC literally shows how this game is not built around timed battles

[eternal pecan]

Why sharp entry 1 and tm mpr?

[primal blade]

need her TM refresh to max her atk

and since u already want to refresh it, sharp entry is worthless

[eternal pecan]

Oh I forgot that red doesn’t buff attack whoops

[tall musk]

Flag Bearer but its random

Ugh I don't wanna give Courtney +4

[rain copper]

Well there is Max Knuckle

[tall musk]

I don't have a lotta sync orbs

[primal blade]

what i posted is used with SC Steven and BP Barry, not with redlax

Redlax makes it so u dont need Courtney MP refresh

so long u use max knuckle

[icy pendant]

There is also Fierce Entry 1

[warped gulch]

Bc no one asked

[azure hornet]

Rose's AOE Stone Edge was what got me a million for Rock

I also got a Million with SS Lana's B-Move

[primal blade]

imagine that, a striker with aoe dps move that doesnt get reduced dmg because aoe xD

[azure hornet]

Also the eventually Ash B-Move maxing that will happen

[icy pendant]

Jacq B move did that in literally the first damage challenge

[normal parcel]

You didn't pick tm MPR?

[azure hornet]

The difference is... I don't have Jacq so

[primal blade]

as well the fact that ash can provide his own buffs, lol

[chilly sierra]

I can’t even get to 500k

[icy pendant]

with what energy? (TM MPR isn’t accessible with all sync nodes unless you +2)

[tall musk]

Someone enlighten me on the strats for DC

[chilly sierra]

I need a YT video for reference

[tall musk]

After using Courtney's TMs

[primal blade]

there's a video posted here above

need to dig through it

[tall musk]

Oh facts

[neat raft]

i swear courtney's sync has like -2 crit chance or smth instead of the regular -1

[primal blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255888121648644197/1262725425696870471/RPReplay_Final1721118859.mov?ex=6697a431&is=669652b1&hm=a91821586391470ba5fd61949876ac1733fc2dc9f3e0706d686d62feff61f5ee&

[devout pelican]

I got 1.1m with this Courtney grid

[normal parcel]

I guess you will need a bit of energy expansion

[neat raft]

the non crit happen so often wtf

[icy pendant]

or hear me out: I just get luckier

[primal blade]

so many wasted runs 😭

[devout pelican]

You don't need Sharp Entry when you're are gonna MPR

[normal parcel]

Same for fierce entry

[devout pelican]

Fierce Entry is too far away too

[tall musk]

Does the BP Barry trick only work with 3x speed or is any speed fine

[normal parcel]

At 1x works fine

[tall musk]

Aight

[neat raft]

its only fierce entry 1 lmao

[icy pendant]

that’s still +6 attack after sync

[devout pelican]

Most of the time it's all about landing that para proc

[primal blade]

but, first sync with her would be lower

[devout pelican]

Even one buys you lots of precious seconds

[primal blade]

hence lowers chance of getting 1mil

[icy pendant]

and you can max towering force multipliers before if you throw an x defense into the cycle

[devout pelican]

Courtney can get +2 Attack from the entry, but it's just not worth the trouble with how far it is from Towering

[normal parcel]

The main issue is that you have to drop stuffs to get firce entry

[devout pelican]

Real cope is waiting for her to get a PB but probably not

[primal blade]

exactly, better to just RNG the TM refresh

[prisma quail]

I haven't hit 1 million yet, but I'm still over 600 tickets. So I'm still averaging over 100 tickets per fight

[primal blade]

since it is applied on before you sync with barry

[copper otter]

I need to cook some more.... it's so close. I can feel it.

[normal parcel]

MPR on a 2 use tm isn't that terrible

[copper otter]

Genuinely one EQ at +4 pmun is doing 100k damage

[primal blade]

yep, missing a crit on courtney is way worse

[devout pelican]

Honestly SC Steven TM feels like a trap with how much time he spends

[normal parcel]

Fishing for mpr2 on a single use tm is hellish however

[normal parcel]

Don't use it

[primal blade]

i got 1mil with the above video strat (had adrenaline 1 on Barry) and didnt use even 1 EQ or SC Steven pmun tm

[devout pelican]

Of course, I managed to get 1.1m with 2 TM but I lucked out elsewhere. 2 para proc

[normal parcel]

Is only worth for something like Geeta that can unleash basically an extra nuke with her b move

[warped gulch]

You only use Steven’s TM when you have 7-8 seconds after final Sync

[primal blade]

i had like 1 sec xD

[normal parcel]

1 sec isn't enough

[neat raft]

man

850k

lol

[primal blade]

i know hence y i didnt use it

[warped gulch]

5 sec isn’t enough

[neat raft]

think thats the max i can go oof

[normal parcel]

5 secs is enough for seun, but probably not for TM

[warped gulch]

Yup

His TM just took so long with that +3 speed

[primal blade]

if only, just in DC, every move had the same animation

and TMs/buff/debuffs wouldnt even show up just to make them not take time (would still count but just not show them)

[eternal pecan]

So does one need SC Steven to get 1 mil +

Or does classic red work instead

[primal blade]

there's a strat with Colress and Redlax

[normal parcel]

Red works too

[warped gulch]

But he need caked

[icy pendant]

who (there is no classic red)

[normal parcel]

I got 1m with him (1.1m with Steven)

[normal parcel]

People get confused because SS red released before og red

[icy pendant]

it’s me, I am people

[primal blade]

the fact he has (classic) in his name also messes up with ppl

[tall musk]

He doesn't have the classic in his name

[eternal pecan]

Well also because the blue who was released at the same time is called classic blue I’m pretty sure

[tall musk]

It's just Red

[primal blade]

since this assume there's a Red without that "Classic" as well

[normal parcel]

He doesn't, blue and Elesa have

[icy pendant]

he never has had classic in his name

[primal blade]

uuuuuh

[icy pendant]

just released at the same time as classic Blue

[primal blade]

mb then

this got me confused af xD

[normal parcel]

Red is just red and Snorlax, like blue and Pidgeot or leaf and eevee

[tall musk]

His name is just Red cos technically this is the base version

PoMa moment

Decided to release SS first lmao

[primal blade]

when i saw the blue classic i automatically assumed redlax was the same

[normal parcel]

I guess people got confused because the other base Kanto trio units where spotlights while red was pokefair and classic blue got released too, plus SS red was the 1st red released

[copper otter]

Aaaaaaaaa

[teal haven]

If DeNA were true chads, the base red would be with poliwrath

[tall musk]

I wonder if anyone has done it with Barry and Red

[copper otter]

It's been done with courtney

[tall musk]

Ooh is there a link

[copper otter]

It's less than 1 mil

Colress is better

[tall musk]

I just wanna get more than 300k

I don't have 3/5 Colress so

[dusk plume]

21k other damage from Sandstorm alone?

[copper otter]

Yes

I wonder....... could flinch help with this

[warped gulch]

Both can let you score 600k

[copper otter]

Who is a ground unit that can flinch with a ground move?

[warped gulch]

If Red have caked better

[tall musk]

Are there any videos

And yes my Red is caked

[prisma quail]

I'm getting the 5th sync, but not getting the 1 million.

I have ground zone for all 4 Camerupt syncs, and SEUN for all but the first.

Only using Stoutland buddy move twice.

Head start on the supports, SP3 on camerupt

[warped gulch]

Sadly no, but you can do: Red Max Knuckle, 2 Courtney TM, 1 X Def and spamming Stun Spore

[tall musk]

Any specific grids?

Cos I was wondering if I could spam Red's TM too

Since sync countdown helps

[primal blade]

i didnt do the red strat, but i assume u want to get refresh on his tm, at least once

[tall musk]

Right

[warped gulch]

You can try this https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=000000014300&s0=1&l0=140&r0=6&p0=0&a0=0&t0=44444&g0=BCYo&v1=022200032300&s1=5&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=4444&g1=AAECAwQFBgcICQwPFRgZJicpLi8&v2=009900040700&s2=5&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=0&t2=11111&g2=AAEEBggLDRAaHB4hJCYp

[primal blade]

and can use his max knuckle to max courtney atk so can ignore her tm refresh and just grab sharp entry on her grid

[warped gulch]

I try Barry/Red but my red doesn’t have caked

So i barely reach 6th Sync

[primal blade]

u want his cake i think

[icy pendant]

Your only option is Nita and it’s a 20% exclusive to 3/5

[warped gulch]

Really much yeah

[normal parcel]

I guess you need all 3 leer

[primal blade]

also pretty sure if u use red u want colress to debuff def

[eternal pecan]

do you have adrenaline / head start 1 for barry and sc steven and Super Power 3 on courtney?

[tall musk]

Yeah it'd be nice if I had Colress 3/5

[warped gulch]

You can try this rotation #1255888121648644197 message

[normal parcel]

I would get Courtney to 150 every bit of attack stat helps

[warped gulch]

No need for lucky para proc

[eternal pecan]

my courtney is 4/5 and not 5/5 which annoys me tbh

[warped gulch]

But you get 2 SpDef debuff = reset

[normal parcel]

I don't think I got a para proc, you just don't need to get too much spdef drop

[warped gulch]

You can only get 1

2 just insta reset

[eternal pecan]

is SS Giovonni good for this or nah

[normal parcel]

With 2 you can still do it if you get a full para

[tall musk]

I hear he's not

[warped gulch]

Yup

But it still suck

[primal blade]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=009003050801&s0=2&l0=150&r0=6&p0=0&a0=18020401&t0=44444&g0=AAECAwQF&v1=022200032300&s1=5&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13016403&t1=4444&g1=AAECAwQFBggVGBkoKSotLi8&v2=009900040700&s2=5&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=15010301&t2=11111&g2=AAECAwQFBggLDRAaHB4hJCYp this is what i used

[warped gulch]

10% to ruin your run

[primal blade]

used all 3 leers, got refresh on courtney tm so used 3 times, 1 x-def,

rest is the same strat as what is discussed here, and i reached 1mil

[rare apex]

back in top 10 with 1179657 pts now

[primal blade]

didnt use skill gear, just regular 3* ground gear

[rare apex]

think i'm chilling now

[normal parcel]

14.375% I think , 9.75% if you are using Barry with stalwart on grid

[tall musk]

Ugh I only got 460k since Red's TM didn't refresh at all

I'm gonna try to get 500k and dip

This is why I despise DC

[devout pelican]

SC Steven helps more than Red since he also activates Theme skill being Hoenn

[primal blade]

this DC round is so RNG dependent it's really not fun

[tall musk]

I just generally dislike DC in general 😭

[primal blade]

and not dependent on his own tm refreshes

[normal parcel]

Is more that the extra rebuff helps

[tall musk]

I can only do well in types where I have the good pairs

Like psychic, electric and fairy

[devout pelican]

One issue with Red TM is that it can be time consuming when you spam it for the 4th time

SEUP is faster

[tall musk]

Yeah

Tho I do wonder how I'll do for steel

[normal parcel]

Almost Everyone is in the same boat for ground st

[tall musk]

SC Selene does have flinch

[primal blade]

spammable flinch at that

[tall musk]

Mhm

[primal blade]

but her own dmg is subpar

[tall musk]

Yeahh

[primal blade]

100% will need to use either pal marnie, rose or poppy

[rare apex]

great, i have none of them

[primal blade]

or Gloria if got her 5/5 because rebuff

[tall musk]

Poppy doesn't seem optimal since she can only use Gigaton Hammer every 2nd turn

And Gigaton Hammer has a long animation time

[primal blade]

true

[devout pelican]

Does SC Steven gain anything past 1/5?

[primal blade]

nope

[rare apex]

mprs on SEUP no?

might be handy

[primal blade]

oh ye

[vernal condor]

Colress

[primal blade]

but usually wont get to use more than 2

[eternal pecan]

my steel roster is extremely lacking 😭

melmetal when

[primal blade]

actually forgot Tate has a good nuke

[primal blade]

maybe MF bait before anni?

[vernal condor]

nah tate isn't good here

[tall musk]

Hrmmm

[primal blade]

tate nuke is good though

[rare apex]

how cooked am i vs steel

[eternal pecan]

melmetal has double iron bash which is a 30% chance to flinch each hit so its perfect for DC

[primal blade]

100% double the animation :^)

so it's effectively useless lol

[vernal condor]

maybe but it doesn't matter

[devout pelican]

BP Valerie might be good for MT Steel

[vernal condor]

you can't run everything you want with tate

[primal blade]

well between tate and pal marnie, the latter is easier to setup i guess

[neat raft]

Idt I can go any further without having to invest in special gears

[devout pelican]

She can self SEUP

Ah wait, Valerie is Fairy

[primal blade]

caked red?

[neat raft]

ye

[primal blade]

oof

[neat raft]

all syncs were crit

[tall musk]

I just feel like DC wasn't a good idea to begin with tbh

[neat raft]

i threw in 1 additional attack after the final sync as well

[vernal condor]

One of these 2 is the (current) best 1v3 steel team, I just don't know which yet

[primal blade]

it's not, this game is not built around timed battles, period

[neat raft]

(not like the additional attack gave a big boost tho)

[devout pelican]

Yeah, I tried Red before SC Steven. Definitely a struggle to get 1m without Rebuff

[tall musk]

I thought by Damage Challenge it'd be like how many waves can you defeat or something like that

[primal blade]

the one with selene as dps is definitely bad, her dps is crap compared to marnie or tate

[neat raft]

probably need special type gear for those additional damage lol

[tall musk]

Her animation times are significantly faster tho

[vernal condor]

Who said Selene is doing any dps

It's just colress nuke

[primal blade]

oh right, colress is steel xD

[vernal condor]

she metal claws 2 times and otherwise is a steel zone setter, that's it

you don't even bullet punch once, it's too slow

[warped gulch]

Why ? She is fairy type

[eternal pecan]

iron head flinch

[devout pelican]

Brainfart moment

[primal blade]

ye since colress nukes the selene team might be good

[warped gulch]

Not for MT Steel

[devout pelican]

Maybe MT Fairy

[vernal condor]

also what's important with Steven is less the rebuff and more the speed debuffs

they let you spam stun spore easily

[tall musk]

Fairy my beloved

I actually have the meta team for it

[vernal condor]

Fairy I have Pal Serena
That's it

[neat raft]

ST steel will be an interesting 1

[rare apex]

colress finally gets to sync

that lucky devil

[neat raft]

Both State and Colress spamming e wave

kek

[vernal condor]

Tate can't spam

no gauge

[neat raft]

just slot him in when theres gauge

[vernal condor]

also doom desire would make it hella slow anyway

[tall musk]

I'm almost certain people spamming twave was not what was on DeNA's mind lmfao

[warped gulch]

[rare apex]

plus colress needs an actual support to support him

[tall musk]

SS Gladion babyy

[faint quiver]

MT Steel probably goes to Rose.

[warped gulch]

3/5 Poppy can also do Twave spam

[vernal condor]

I mean, I told them to investigate the venom drench glitch since it matters in DC and they're doing it

sooo

[neat raft]

Rose

[primal blade]

fairy dc imo is not bad if u got SS Wally and/or SS Gladion

[tall musk]

I highly doubt many have a 3/5 Poppy 😭

She gets nothing at higher sync levels

[warped gulch]

Yeah, my still 1/5 😦

[tall musk]

Same here

I could candy her but there's no point