#Damage Challenge
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I'd like to see more use of 3/5 scSteven
That no evasion staggering 4 looks interesting if mixed with turn skipping
Thanks to Tom for the strat! 
A lot are looking at Courtney for budget Ground
she is the best nuker
Oh the next one is single target?
yeah
Is courtney or bertha the better nuker 
Bertha is but she sucks in DC
Fair
Courtney comp can afford both Colress and Redlax for highest numbers
I'm thinking of running SC Steven + Courtney + Redlax or Colress
Who's premium ground?
Courtney
would BP Barry be better than Colress because support EX and ST?
Fall Roxanne has very good nuke but she wants Redlax/Courtney as the enhancer
No FRoxanne unfortunately so Courtney gang for me
I've only used her for zone so lemme peep her grid

We're so doomed lmao
She has a hard time setting up so yeah
she just wants +6 defense
With the entry passives, she only needs to use her TM and X Defense twice
gang here
Dps ?
SS Giovanni definitely has no shot
For ST that is very bad
He might on 3v3, but 3v1 is ew for him
Courtney it is, so no need to EXR Rika? 😮
LVolo uses sand no? D:
Yeah
He doesn't for his sync multipliers
Could the max move team Defense+2 on Redlax be feasable for Courtney? And I'd assume Lodge Rika is worse
Well, Courtney has Super Syncer
Courtney is the best choice
i think yes
So with Red's Max Shielding Strikes, Courtney only needs 3 turns to set up
Let him use Max Knuckles and Courtney only need 2 turn set up 
And pray more Red’s Mpr
Oh yeah, Max Knuckle
This will gonna be something. Good luck to everyone on tuesday
Yep, Redlax's Max Knux with Shielding Strikes might be the best option with Courtney
Can't believe a non-limited unit is one of the best choices for this next DC
Definitely Foxanne
For f2p one

SS Gio stonks for 3v3
Fall Roxanne, but since I don't have her, and my SS Gio is at 1/5, Maxie it is 
Guess i’ll use Courtney for MT Ground too 


MT Ground...
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
I guess editing doesn't exist for you huh?
Hapu
I don't believe in editing

Sand chip damage will ruin your run 
I’m looking Cynthia without sand
Impossible
time
If only b moves don't take much time, VGio could be an option, but oh well 
Courtney the unsung hero
It's Courtning time
What do you think about Ghost 3vs3 ?
Red can give +2 atk and max crit
Winter Jasmine can max defense, +2 atk and max crit (what I'll be using since no Red)
SSR Cynthia gaming? 😮
I will EXR SSR for that
SC Irida gonna tops
If only I can get more move candies 

Lucky my SC Irida is invested already

~~Ty Ghost HS i guess ~~
Irida is Striker/Tech with Pecking Order + Blind Spit + Trap & Sync 4
Is Courtney + cynthia good enough for ground?
Both are 1/5 
Oh wait, I would SSR with Go Viral Metal Sound SS Hilbert
Do you know what you can do with SSR ?

no Tabitha is not in the game yet
It's Morting time

Not bad, but would rely on SEUN redlax procs
hilarious.
so you are not rushing sync?
Idk ? 
that wouldn't allow you to score high i believe, but i could be wrong
I feel like SC Irida cant rush tbh
i'm talking to felipe
they are going to use SS Hilbert and Redlax
Well, I will try it when MT ghost arrives
i don't have high hope for it but hopefully it works for you
Dena'll probably release more DC fieldsprint pairs right?
maybe
Idk
Otherwise eventually you'll have them all and can only trade tickets for sync orbs
I'm just going just for the 1M tho. So hope that would help
i dont even think the team can score past 700k tbh
yes ofc, but it will take a long while unlike yearly BP update
Ehhh, should be easy 1m
Do Courtney's Sentry Fierce and Sharp entries grid skills proc again when she mega evolve?
yes
Even 1/5 NC Silver can why not 3/5 SSR Cynthia
Ok just want to double check. Thx Gakon!
Well, if that fails, there will be other options, but by the time, I'll save omni move candies for anni MFs
Remember her Sync is really strong
but you are right
And she is Tech
Tested the timings
For me it's Red Courtney Colress
I think need 1 para proc to fit the last sync
Gakon not underestimating Cynthia challenge (impossible)
Use the boy
3vs1 you can normally use 5-6 Sync with Twave/Stun Spore spamming
hmm

She cant buff her own stat
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but Volo sucks

Her base multiplier need to raise stat
Love shar 
Confusion just bad
And that already limit you with SpA buffer that can buff other stat
SS Korrina 3R + Fall Allister + Redlax / Colress ? :O?
what about renegade Cynthia 3R?
Single mpr on Red, Rock gears… i think 1M should be doable with this comp
She’ll be good, but she need someone else to drop Aoe SpDef
Rose is just pure rock dps and no sync?
Can max too, but yeah, no sync it seems
Probably ssrCynthia will dominate heavily with scGardenia
Refreshing to see barry and colress are not completely dominating this mode
Yup. Pure stone edge. Dmax at end. Red syncs first. Then nemona syncs all the rest
Won't last long 
The sandstorm will be over soon
So we'll kinda face the same thing with Ice
NC Red timely denials will outweigh his b move delays
Too much time
Idt so, i think you’ll spam blizzard instead
Irida prevents hail damage
That also what NC Silver does
And ofc no Colress or Bp Barry spamming their move
Would irida + nc red + colress/barry not be a good team?
Like Colress still can go with NC Silver bc aoe Def debuff
But why Colress for Red right ?
you only use these two if you lack Redlax or Chase
The BP curse
Dana got that stupid passive
Does ncred or irida sync harder?
Ruining queues
NC Red
Aww nice, was my first strike tech for rally
if they ever let us ex the bp 5*
Anni 
im exing 4 of them immediately bc is already have them 20/20
What other types have strong fast attackers but not as strong syncs
poppy would be pretty major
Maxie for ground v3
I truly believe in him
Idk about scAdaman
His Bmove is absurd but take ages m
Steel will probably be nukeless yes
ehhh, foxanne sync is very strong aoe so idk
you should re-read the question
You asked us about this


Uhhh, Steel has 2 sync spammers
So idk why Steel is Nukeless
fairy aoe will probably be sync rush with 2 ss glad b moves thrown in for extra 2 mil right?
meant the highest scores won't focus on nuking too much
I said not as so it means that types with fast attackers that output more damage than sync spamming
? didn't say she was. Just said that foxanne will probably be worth it over Maxie after a guy said Maxie will be the best for ground 3v3
you specified "fast attackers"
I asked what types have fast attackers better than their nukers and a guy replied Maxie for 3v3 which I disagree with as foxanne while not being a fast attacker has stronger aoe nuke than Maxie's quick dps spam
thinking of running lenora / ssr cynthia / barry if when we get ghost 3v1
next month ofc
or just run redlax while spamming leer i guess
Why Lenora and Barry though? If Colress can do both jobs (def debuff and sync rush)
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Someone already mentioned here, since this iteration used X Speed all, the enemies have fewer dead time in between their attacks… so Twave spam is not as good
I think you have to take in account full attack, including gears theme skills and sync grid tiles (ofc it should exceed 666 without the +20 skill gear)
lv 150 ex + 80 from gear + grid tiles would amount to 627
theme skills would let you exceed it if you run along side a rock tech or sprint or something
but i'd have lv 140
and that 10 level difference is 22 attack
Sandstorm isn't advisable for Olivia because she can't summon sand by herself (unlike NC silver) and sand blaster 5 isn't worth a whole teammate dedicated to sand + the sand animation
i'd actually give it a try if you have paulo or ingo but not if you don't and not for more than like the last two syncs with olivia
I guess Paulo can contribute to damage and sync countdown, is Ingo good for DC?
NO. He's very dependent on sandstorm being up and ONLY he is protected from Sandstorm damage
If you tried Colress or BP Barry, you'd lose way too much time from Sandstorm chip damage
it's something i'd definitely attempt if i didn't have paulo just for support ex and not relying on x attack mpr
even if it ends up being useless
i thought running sand shelter on everything would be obvious…
also i have no rock zone setters
Even if you ran sand shelter on everyone, Gladion is still fast, they take up more time from the sandstorm chip
i'd definitely be the last person to discourage experimentation even if literally everyone else thinks that this or any other strategy is useless
otherwise you learn nothing you gain nothing imo
alright
Colress has sand shelter on grid and Olivia too
Barry will need lucky skill however
That's why sync spam isn't the best option for NC silver
Nc sliver sand dont do ally damage
He have protect them from it
Its in his passive
Sync spam isnt as effective in this round coz they use X speed all. Less dead time in between enemy queue
Who is gonna be good for ground single ?
Courtney
3/5 Fall Roxanne works too unless you lack Redlax
sync rush + nuke, she doesn't do dps
Adaman is not great for this mode
because of B Move + burn animation eating sizeable amount of time
I see
Oh....I just realized that next DC is ground....SC adaman pls....get 1 mil....
Damm maybe one more TM refresh from Red and it could have it. Or also if i give SP3 to Rose.
Almost ;O
regretting every life choice that led to me creating this doc
i have ub sheet ptsd
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All I could do
I wonder if DeNA would tone things down. Like 500k to grab all 100 tix
That's very low for a sync rush comp
Check the pins for proof
At the moment it definitely requires you have certain pairs to meet the quota of 1m
Yes, I know it's optional but don't say it doesn't sting when you don't get 1m
Are any of the 5 pairs any good
Wish there was a tool that analyses your pairs and find out what you need
All 5 of them are around equal strength and playstyles. They provide zone/sync CD on entry and can debuff various stats.
Cooldown 

Will my 3/5 HalloweenRoxanne be good in ground DC

I don't think i have much other ground types
I got Cynthia EX 3/5 for ground
It's ST this time around
Foxanne iirc has a really good nuke
Cynthia however might be under par unless 5/5
Problem is foxanne needs to setup debuffs
And Cynthia needs sand unless you don't plan to use it

Cynthia before mega has lower atk than Olivia. Although after mega she has higher, mega sync really harm her
And both only have 2 Sync multiplier lol
Not sure if EXR Maxie is good
EXR Foxxanne my beloved
Can't he set up preemptively and with Solar Sync?
- Cynthia: Haymaker and Sand Blaster 5
- Olivia: Inertia and Sand Blaster 5
But he cast it 1 time only
I mean, look at NC Silver
End need wait befor sun run out for his sync since you will lose sun befor🤣
Nc silver sand barrely stay too end
And maxie set up is way longer then his
I mean, Maxie only needs to use his TM twice and he doesn't have chip damage unlike Silver's sandstomr
True, but its conveinent for dual setup
Fall roxane need trap
She sets it herself
Wat will take damage mean time
True
Cynthia 5/5 for ST Ground? o.o
Sand is bad play
doesnt she have like Sync Accel or something?
Gioking 
Shocking as it may seem (at least for me), Courtney and Foxanne have practically similar nuke assuming that Courtney has zone
If you use her as a dps, i guess ok ?
But if you try Sync spamming
Roxane trap is issue
Slaash gamin?
She is worse than Olivia
Ramming Speed and Superduper Effective 5 and Critical Strike 9 Slash? xD
Courtney look the best for singel target
Earthen Opening Sync or 2x +25 sync move for Courtney?
Cynthia 1/5 💀
And what do you think of this?
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/22200/32300?s=5&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFFRgZHB4hIiMlKSw
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
Now that I think about it, Sharp Entry for her might not even be necessary
Cynthia is not really good, you have to run sand and yk sand recoil kills time
Bertha junpscare.

This is better right?
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/22200/32300?s=5&l=140&r=6&p=0&a=13016403&g=AAECAwQFFRgZHB4hIiMlLi8
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
I want to ignore her time killers badly
-8 energy D:
Just despai.
It seems like Courtney's the only one that doesn't kill time
-5 actually
Zone setup actually
Let me check dps
Since this is ST, Courtney's Bulldoze is x2 stronger
Rally and CSMM
Yeesh.
2 resets for DC ST Ground
Right, ST Ground
Maxie DPS .-.;
5/5 Gioking here
4/5 Gioking here
3/5 
mine is 1/5 
So he can be a semi-sprint unit
Guess I'll need to hope Bertha is good enough
Oh Max Countdown 3 is 5/5 grid option. despair ;_;
Let's see if dps spamming is better than Courtney nuke this time 
Bertha is bad, dont use her
Man, the buffer from sandstorm will be painful 
Imma do dps this time around. Sync move damage is worse this time around
I don't think it's good to do sync rushing for Ground tbh
GL with trap, sandstorm for who try to use
Bertha and Courtney requries setup right? D;?
Yes, but Redlax helps mitigate Courtney's buffing
Assuming he's 3/5
He doesn't even need 3/5 for that
Max Knuckle + MAX Shielding Strikes
With those two, Courtney only needs to use X Defense and TM once
Hmm... hear me out chat.
Iono/Courtney/Gioking.

Dps
Gioking Sonia as mainly dps doesn't look so bad
What are you cooking that feels like it's about to burn?
Free move next on hit, Mega kick dps
I rather use Larry than Iono 
I'm thinking of running Gioking/Rika/SC Steven o.o
You dont need to press any attack move to buff crit
Gioking doesnt need crit buffs right? he has Critical Crit 9
Her passive also activates every time she gets hit which kills time
But if you use Rika why you need critical crit 9 anymore
Critical crit 9 is deceptive.
Gioking's sync grid is INCREDIBLY expensive
To a fault
Getting rid of critical crit will free up multiple things, one. It you can get move gauge refresh if beyond 3/5, and even better. Crit up animation time chips away seconds
Getting rid of that helps
gotcha.
I'm still kind of in a predicament of Chase vs. Colress for fire 3v1
Nah, it's Leaf
I have Bertha and Courtney if she worka
Yeah, Barry then
Courtney is one of the best for ST Ground
Would this damage make up for having 2 supports with sprint EXR?
Doesn't nc leaf have support exr to begin with?
The 1st image is Leaf as the 3rd sync, the 2nd one is her 4th sync
Fire ST?
Yuh
I'd rather focus on dps asap. Leaf is going to waste time on debuffs
i think i'm going for SS May + her.
no idea for 3rd teammember
Chase maybe? shrug
Btw I saw some messages about ground
I’d not sleep on variety Giovanni too
Nah, Courtney all the way
for ST Ground?
His B move does great dps and has 2 100% nuke multipliers plus superduper effective 5
He can be an alternative
Sandstorm chip damage tho
For time yes but Courtney dps is kinda meh
Her nuke is miles better than Gio
And if timed right, she can sync under zone 3 times
you don't use her dps until very end tho
I really do feel lkke DPS is the way to go next rotation
1 mil dps raw vs 700k sync raw
we can test it once its active
anyone got a strat for next stage? I don't have halloween Roxanne so I'm kinda cooked sync wise
Also, Silver will go nuts in 3v3 fire weak
damn that fucker really would
god I hope he wins this, I don't have Moltres so I am pissed
The bad thing about Leaf is that she requires 5 turns to fully set up
Leer x3, use her TM then use her B Move to complete the debuffs (unless the enemy buffs one of the 4 stats she debuffed)
We can try to grab another debuff unit
Power play only needs 18 stars down
So it can easily be 2 leer
You're forgetting that her Leer debuffs 4 stats at once
So even if those stats are fully debuffed, as long as the other stats aren't, then her passive is triggered
Is it a waste of roster spot to bring Rika (ex’d and caked) with Courtney, other one will be Barry? Barry syncs first. Then sync rush to Rika to get instant ground zone on sync. By this time, Courtney would have fully buffed, so she takes all syncs after, sync rushing ofc
Courtney doesn't need Rika
Ground zone takes forever 
Takes forever how?
Also she doesnt have extension, unlike Rika’s sync zone.
You would sacrifice a team spot that could have faster debuffing, rebuff or seup and give it to Rika?
You only need 2 Zone most of the time
3 if you have Earthen Opening Sync
Anyway, we’ll see. Part of the fun is the theorizing then either getting it right or wrong when the actual event rolls lol
Pretty easy to say that together with Courtney, Rika is more than suboptimal
Redundant
Redlax works better with Courtney
Rika is only there for two things: support ex, and ground zone on sync. Maybe one use of TM as well to cap out courtney’s attack
The thing is Courtney sets zone herself, so it's redundant
Yeah, and like I said, with proper timing, Courtney can sync 3 times under her zone
For AOE should be fine (but I think the ground giovannis are better)
For st don't use maxie
It's literal garbage
Probably the worst cake after ncCalem
But at leat he got some good dps
That is a weird opinion
it's by no means a big improvement
but all the supports into tech EXR, or even Archie and Anni Lillie that get tech are considered worse
at last, it will be my caked maxie's time to shine
support w/ tech cake isnt that bad if you wanna make LG solos easier
Anywhere else tho? yeah it aint great
Every cake makes LG solos easier
I also feel like support with strike cake is pretty bad... making their low damage multi-target and increasing their offensite stats just doesn't seem that useful. But people don't usually mention this combo as being bad, I'm not sure why not
Got it at last with this comp. Still a far cry from my NC Silver clear lol. But it was fun chasing that 1M
Sync'd with nemona?
Noice
why are supports with strike EXR not mentioned as being bad? I feel like that's almost as bad as support with tech EXR?
Well, I think this is the worst I can score!? 
Haven't mentioned them because they are rarer
also striker cake is a flat +40 to offenses for solos
which helps a lot bc support atk / spatk is usually compelte shit
Either way, helping with LG solos is not a strong compeller
I mean it is if you're a LG player
I see I see. (And I don't go for long LG streaks, so increasing their offense is not really helpfull in other game modes I feel)
I do and tbh striker cake is pretty far down my priority list
its supports and field then the rest
tech is great on palmer at least
That's my max damage with Silver 1/5, I'm posting bc maybe this can help others
Red caked
So who should it be?
Beside Supp+Tech being a doubious investment
Archie is still doing slightly better than Maxie because at least you can sync unde rain
Still quite bad tho
Unless whales doubt ppl will rush to use their tech candies on supports 
The only one I caked is Elaine for rally
Sure it make stuff easier but now that we got DC priprities are shifting
In NC Blue's case, it's actually really good because his Electric Rebuff via sync will spread to the sidemons. And a lot of the Supports with Striker EXR can actually flex into an attacking role. The only one that's bad is Holiday Sycamore tbh
In Iono's case, it's because her nuke button relies on SMUN stacks but no reason not to unleash that nuke if she's close or at max stacks
Here is another team for silver 1/5:
You forgor Archie in same tier
At least Archie loves +20 SpA 
Pykuo
That was a critical hit
As an Archie coper

I wanted so badly for it to be a primal reversion to make up for how dogshit the cake was
A
water zone for archie never
perhaps we can cope for Matt with hoenn solidarity and rain dance
Or
A power boost for old master fairs
Make it a event with the sync story
Cmon Dena
I’m giving you a way to make more money
You can reuse assets and get us to summon for them
Pleeeeese
I kinda expect something big for the MF Power Boosts
tbf it’s a somewhat rarer combo (5 VS 13), and all but 1 does have a fringe use
in theory Support with Strike is objectively worse, but the ones with that combo tend to justify its existence well enough
except Holiday Sycamore
holiday sycamore probably should've just gotten tech
Basically this
Striker Penny is really funny, I had a rally run where she was my damage dealer up until area 7 
Honestly her EX role has been tempting me for quite a while now 
Penny can be useful at 5/5
I’m pretty sure iono prefers the hitting hard stats anyway
But like grusha oh wow 1.5 damage
That kinda thing
My 5/5 Archie is Uber tier, also h.Erika 

I see I see. I guess I'm not into "fringe uses" too much. I'm pretty sure NC Blue not having his cake never affected me negatively. And Penny needs 5/5 for her cake to be "useful" which basically won't ever apply for me, since I don't have any limited unit at 5/5
Who's the rival we're facing now? Blue? N? Hau? Hugh?
Green?
No wait, Green and Blue are the same person.
Best I could do
Finally breached 2M 
I remember when Colress was first released, I thought it was unfortunate that he got Def debuff instead of Metal Sound for Sp. Def debuff
But I guess it’s a good thing he debuffs Def
better to have debuffs that matches his sync, it's just mirror shot being special that's awkward
It could have had Mirror Shot, Metal Sound, and special attack sync (like flash canon)
ye
@rain copper I decided to 3/5 EXR SC Irida for also the HSE, so don't about your SSR doubts 
probably would be weird that it doesnt use it's sig move at all in that case
In Ground ST, if you are running Courtney - Colress - Redlax, do you spam Bulldoze first few turns after buffing up (chip damage is bonus), or do you use Klinklang screech?
Or a combination of the two?
Oh, just realized Defense Crush 9 is after Mega-evolving. Guess its not worth it to use Bulldoze then
No need to bulldoze, waste of gauge and time, screech is more worthwhile
granted, i don't even think Sync is the way to go this time around since ground DPS is just straight up stronger than any sync nuker for ground
Which of the new damage challenge units do you guys recommend picking up first?
Gladion and Wally stand out from the others, but feel free to get your most favorite pairing first
The DC pairs are good to fill out missing roles in Rally at the very least
Yeah im thinking Gladion first
Initially I am thinking about getting Nemona, but I might go for Hugh because Sprint + Flying is a rare combo
really?
@thin wren sync damage for ground sync nukers are around 700K raw from Foxanne.
DPS is about 1.2M raw from DPS from Gioking
My 2/5 GIovanni doing wonders.
look at the difference.
for context: this is Poison's data.
Calling it now, you're gonna need to DPS here.
Mega Kick gaming? 😮
Like, poison at least shows you a massive scale in damage, but for sync nukers. the only Reliable and fast sync nuker is Courtney, the rest will waste time with wanting either sandstorm, Trap, or Burn.
actually.... I am blind....
I read 7 mil as 700K 
hi blind

Oh so I wasn't the dumb one not understanding what you said.
Just the usual Link moment.
truly a linkable moment
Imma just see what happens, but I am curious on how much trap/sand damage will take away from our time
a lot
sand alone is quite bad and sand tomb has a long animation too
for nuker Courtney is the only viable option
Fall Roxanne comps have to deal with trap animation
Bertha is totally out, everything is too slow w her
i have plans for bertha so we'll see
Yeah I'm gonna trying something too but not too optimistic when Courtney is right there
Problem will be reaching *3 syncs after supp ex
If she does big 
🤝
sorry I'm a little confused. NC Silver nuked in sand and that seemed fine.
Ye, but trap and will steal extra time
If just bertha had self atk buff
There will be more flexibility around that
Btw I was looking at some gioking dps with nc Silver and Bugsy lmao
Hope to se a Father / Son run, mine is just 1/5 
That reminds me, is SS Gio's raw power not enough for ST Ground?
It should be, maybe not on nukers level but sure dealing so much damage continuosly
The multipliers with nc silver are just crazy high, and you also have circle and the pmun next
I lack NC Silver but I wonder how far SS Gio would go with the standard Colress/Redlax especially when he has a Dmax nuke to slide in for extra damage at the end
Can't really test bcs mine is 1/5 but I think he will do fine
Mega kick is fast, so by kicking n sync you can get closer to nukers
Not sure abt gauge tho
If I had him I would try to run with either
Sonia + Red, scSteven + Rika or ncSilver + Bugsy
cynthia slash is looking good
CS9 slash xD
LG route so 📈
could be possible, but you need to sync with herr once Hrm.
don't need the tm mpr, fast track will bring her to +6 speed
this is what i'll be going for
but if it turns out they use x def then that debuff tile is useless
oh you're going sand route hrm
yea i'm running with bertha
who i can't really sync rush with effectively
decided i'll be needing stomping tantrum dc4 lol
and gave her grid expansion to test something
that is a tile that exists??
i dont think i have ever looked at the top right part of her grid
yea it is usually fairly irrelevant
Slowly losing my mind over this Rock DC. So much RNG has to go right.
Olivia X Attack MPR once
Redlax ideally getting MPR
FULL PARA AT LEAST TWO OR THREE TIMES
Alright, got a little bit of time to hopefully get better, any advice? Was trying NC Silver/Colress/Redlax 1/5
Redlax has EXR
What's your highest score so far?
This is what I'm trying right now. So far my best have been 700k to 800k
they have Silver so they don't need to follow that
Would it be worth it to use B RS?
the pins, once again, documented Silver clears
or skip that?
theres no case to be made to not use it lol
guaranteed flinch, buys you more time to move and the enemy cant move
spread damage, and already outdamages stone edge
plus you can beef it up w seun and pmun
For god's sake ,teh best one doesn't even bother saying 'hey, we're using Head Start'.
that's why one should check the grid used first
IT DOESN'T SAY ON THE GRID EITHER.
it does
LUCKY SKILL: BLANK.
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
Here's the whole thing for proof! It only shows weathered warrior!
oh yeah that's garbage then
pretty much all Red teams want HS1 to complete ramp anyway
...Oh my god, that's the only one that uses htose three.
With those exact sync levels and everything.
freaking why?
Well, I don't have it, so it sucks balls to know EVERY BUILD KEEPS USING IT.
ss giovanni for upcoming ground?
Courtney is considered one of the best options
Courtney or fall roxane are the 2 best
Archie at least really wanted the extra attack from exr

courtney it is
For god's sake, multiple attemps missed by one sync move.
Seriously, one more paralyze would be my salvation.
or one more MPR for Red.
Kepe falling just short of 1m.
I give up, I keep being one sync away from 1m.
And it's always one freaking move off.
You can just check the video in the pin
I tried using the strategy, I'm always one move off BECUASE IT USES HEAD START.
And that's the only clear that uses those three pairs at that exact move level.
I have no way to replicate it.

Don't have those.
I mean, my Red doesn't have any LS. It's just Colress
I swear to god, do you not know how to read?
I can't replicate it. I don't have any of those lucky skills.
If you're the one who made that video, YOU GAVE COLRESS HEAD START.
Absolutely not - you do not get to ridicule people trying to help you
Meanwhile, I am already out of deluxe cookies and have to spent the premium ones
Your usual/core units are alrd fine, you're good
I want to make it very clear to everyone here that we will not tolerate this kind of attitude towards people taking time out of their day to help you out
It is absolutely unacceptable
This reminds of those times
which grid olivia uses with redlax and colress?

thanks
@vernal condor If you are free, please help me to update the grid for 1.71M clear to include HS1 for Colress (Yeowch)
Don't you have some adrenaline cookies? For redlax
Muted
Maybe if you hack apple cup in DC
hlo
pins aren't appearing for me so I can't find the doc. Could rose ss diantha and redlax get higher than 1 mil?all except redlax are 3/5
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s-FZwwgLaWbMR7K-zKKabjiIE56y1BafQ7zWRC49QVk/edit?gid=631098815#gid=631098815 there's a direct link
thx
I keep forgetting damage challenge resets on Tuesday, not Monday...
I appreciate them dividing up events so it's not all on Monday, but it still throws me
So I have 1 more day to not do any damage on this thing lol
Next reset won't be any better tbh
any video link to refer?
Which option do you think will be better for tomorrow?
Is Courtney actually going to be better than Gio in this event...???
For next week, at least
Camerupt, RedLax (if he is caked), Klinklang
I am considering SC Lyra
Probably.
Tech nuke, sets ground zone, and has "super syncer" on grid
Those speed drops single target could go hard
Super sync is kinda irrelevant with Red, but tech nuke and ground zone are very solid
Altough not being a field, I hope the ground zones don't wear off too fast
You probably won't want to waste long animation times on bulldoze
Fair enough, altough damn
-1 def speed is neat
Especially since I lack Klinklang
For some reason
It really is a tossup tomorrow because ground units are significantly less overpowered than other types in terms of sync nukers
Yea
Especially for this event where the strongest nukers will waste more time due to trap/sand animation
I went to pomatools filter tech
I was like "HUH" am I really considering these
Bertha doesn't look viable
Too much time will be wasted on her
Foxanne might be worth the time lost
I lack her
My only nuker is Courtney ngl
But I don't have the Colress for def drops so it's kinda eeh
Unfortunately i do think maxie will be kinda bad unless 3/5 or you waste a slot for sun
I agree
Bertha is..... bertha
And SCAdaman, while really strong, has the unique case of burn animation chipping time away
DPS wise, gioking, and Cynthia might see light on this, but gioking specifically will need gauge support for DPS
I think SS Gio will have a hard time here. I just barely reach 1M on Rose pure DPSing with Ground Zone basically set the whole fight (from free Nemona). And that is with Redlax having TM Refresh at least 3x. And that was with 3 targets. I see SS Gio and Rose as having almost the same game play.
Ssgio has max countdown, and faster move animation time. Sc Steven will be able to enhance damage output, but the harder problem is that if going DPS, there needs to be someone who can do easy gauge support
Like sure BP Barry could help, but there has to be someone better
SS Gio having Max Countdown is at 5/5 💀
Bugsy can spam his TM for gauge accel. Although without speed boosts, i dont know how much it helps
But still i’m excited to try SS Gio / Bugsy / NC Silver tomorrow
Rose has mediocre ST dps
With SS gio I think you are supposed to DPS, his nuke is good for AOE but not so great single target
NC Rosa?
She has charging infliction 2 and sing is 1 gauge
He has the 'disadvantage' of being a Striker for ST but I'm mildly hoping that his Dmax nuke would be enough to compensate for that
You aren't supposed to use him as a nuker, but his single target DPS should work well if it can be a viable strategy
Good point, at least none of SS Gio's moves are B moves so spamming his attacks should be viable
His mega kick has basically the same bp as his sync
And I don't think mega kick animation is that long either

I think Chase could work as gauge support even if he doesn't give buffs
Here's to hoping that SS Gio's viable on next reset, otherwise it's a Courtney party.
Giovanni doesnt benefit from Chase's buffing profile much and he doesn't give speed
BP Barry works better than him
we are discussing ss gio comps so sync rush isn't needed (btw chase does buff speed)
even without his passive
chase gives a ton of gauge accel and support sprint sync so he could be worth a shot id the issue is gauges
Rika would also work imo
Rika gives ground zone so that will definitely help with damage
Chase would not be good, in fact, i'm genuinely considering Iono
Fmn is way too good for ssgio
Problem is ssgio's not special
won't the animation be too long?
As long as you don't let Rika tank, I think it should be fine. She only has one B move and it's setup Ground Zone
If you're also running Colress, paralyzing should be ideal to avoid Rika poison
What are good ground pairs for tomorrow?
Literally Courtney
yeah imma have to hope Courtney ends up being enough because I didn’t hold an EX this week
Great so it's probably not going well
Courtney is probably the 2nd optimal choice if not the most optimal
Will have to see tomorrow in practice
But at worst she is 2nd best
she has the kit to go fast with Colress just what are her numbers going to end up like
And who is ideal for triple ghost?
SC Irida
For f2p Morty’ll be good
You can try a bit harder to achieve 1m
Remember of Sands of time 2 and circle MG 2
But you can test it on a LA stage
Here's the free player grids for tomorrow.
Head start on the supporting units
oh yeah she doesn’t have enough energy to grab earthen opening sync
Why samurott? Surely there's a better support
It's the f2p version
Samurott gives +3 attack, +2 crit, +1 def with his TM.
Use that twice, plus Team Sentry Entry 2 on Klinklang and Sentry Entry 1 on Camerupt, and you will max your "towering force" without pressing more TMs on camerupt
Sync Samurott, sync Camerupt, then set ground zone just before Camerupt second sync (when it will already be mega evolved, with SEUN, and +6 defense).
Camerupt's first sync will have +5 defense, but mega evolving re-triggers some ETB effects
If you run RedLax or something else for SEUN, she can
Red lax over samurott?
that’s the only flexible slot in the team
in which case sync order stays the same but Courtney now needs to click her TM 3 times to max attack or twice with Max Knuckle
it takes animation time anyway, you don't want it
she doesn’t have enough zone sets for permanent zone uptime though does she?
If you try for 5 Syncs then yes, she doesn’t have enough Zone for all
I’ll fiddle around with it tomorrow, I still need to optimize rock since I finally have EXR Redlax
Nope.
But first sync with a support, and second sync with Camerupt won't have SEUN or the mega stats anyway.
You want ground zone for sync 3/4/5 though, for sure
With sync speed cheating, you should be able to get two syncs in one set I think
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
This is the best team right?
Idk, need to wait tomorrow
Take Fierce Entry 1 and you'll only click TM twice while preserving Redlax's Gmax for extra TM.
Wait next one is solo opponent? Is courtney one of the best sync nukers because of that? I assume anyone sand is less ideal due to weather casting slow
That's right
trap DOT is obnoxious too
dot in general is obnoxious
honestly the poison 3v1 would be a lot better if most of the options didnt have poison multipliers
Who will be the best option if not her? Fall Roxanne?
I think 2 usages of ground wish should be barely enough if you time it correctly
Maybe SS Gio since Roxanne has trap and needs trap for her innate multiplier
Ss Gio wants to DPS however because his nuke is quite bad ST
Not that SS Giovanni's nuke is unusable single target, but not optimal
A lot of people are planning to use him for DPS
However there aren't much great St ground nukers
Yes I guess it may be the best option
His mega kick has basically te same BP as his sync
Could SS Gio at 3/5 EXR have better nuke than Courtney 5/5 EX?
nope
Definitely not
the gap is even wider when you use Redlax with Courtney

I feel like i am NOT gonna get 1M with just Hilbert HS1 Colress Vigilance and Courtney Critical Strike
Courtney has Super Syncer, so you might have a chance
That is 1 sync

Won't impact much
Oh first time, I actually thought it infinitely reapplies
Is there any good unit that can replace Hilbert except Redlax?
That is super syncer 9
Ah ok
Just realized SS Gio’s grid is too busy. Cant grab all the goodies for this Ground DC
SS Gio is waaaay too expensive
Wait
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
5/5
Yes 
For SS Gio team ?
So tomorrow is ground, can I guess sclyra gonna be mandatory?
Bc idk why NC Rosa when you using BP Barry/Colress anyway
Not when Redlax exists
Courtney
Then this
Bede also just buffs very slow for Courtney
Sprint Kek
Welp don't have him exr
Next reset
Im planning on this one if i’m running with Redlax and NC Silver (no Critical Crit tile)
No debuffer?
Haaah.
Sorry, I mean Bugsy. Comp is johto, Bugsy - SSGio - NC Silver
Circle +’Master Passive is huuuuge boost
I wanna try BugScy + Courtney + NC Silver but i have a fear that it could NOT work

Gonna try iono/sc steven/SS Gio
Imna go with slash cynthia with bp barry and sc steven
Is sprint enough to offset the relic song needed to restore aria forme after sync?
Any idea how many points I can even possibly get. I got 200k using the tram currently there
What... Is that to accomplish?
Shiny TTar doesn't add like anything to Camerupt.
And bugscyther just has AOE defense reduction.
NC silver just slows down with sandstorm
Pretty sure Samurott/Camerupt/Klinklang should be a really good team for free groups tomorrow
You can max out camerupt's sync stats with just two presses of Samurott TM
Or just help with a strat
embrace the para bro
It doesn't look good, you can probably swap in Bertha at this point *(instead of courtney)
do you not know the parafail strat? @tired narwhal
Nah
you have to spam T-wave/Stun Spore in order to sync rush, your damage comes solely from sync
the gif above is an example of the strat in motion
AOE rock weakness was so nice 😭
I'm sad we're going back to para spamming
For st para spam is generally the way
So I should just have one diancie, a thunder wave, and a support to boost stats
Redlax preferably for SE up
And spam thunder wave until I can sync?
yes.
Even for AOE, when you have a unit like Genesect. If you have a powerful enough tech/strike combo
Like only click thunder wave?
Yes but for st is basically mandatory, for AOE it may not always be the best strat
The animation time for failing to apply a status effect is so incredibly fast and spammable, it kind of breaks fights with set timers and good sync nukes
just going to put out three words I haven’t seen yet if you’re learning twave spam: grab infliction freebie
Defence debuffs come in handy too
it’s the only way the spam strats work
Idk if Diantha is a physical or special striker?
Heh
Who has thunder wave?
Idk if any of my guys do
Colress
Colress…
SS diantha is physical
BP Barry
@tired narwhal
The two best free units are:
Colress and Klinklang (at 3/5)
BP Barry and Roserade
but also just read the second pin if you haven’t yet
Had to Google colress. Found em
How can I debuff tho if I’m only spamming thunder wave and sync
Just check the pins, you will get more information there too
When we get a support/sprint combo with thunderwave and free energy cost...
It's going to be an S tier just for this one game mode lol
Screech three times, then thunder wave until sync
First sync with Redlax
Hoping you have him Exed
Was gonna say, I just thunderwaved spammed until I could sync and it was going horrible lol
You should watch videos on youtube to exactly understand what's going on with Colress and Redlax!
Most of the teams are using them at full potential!
Should they be syncing before I do
No
Lmao
Didn’t think so
If I screech 3 times, then spam thunder wave. I run out of stamina and need to wait for bar to
you didn’t get infliction freebie on Colress’s grid then
Is your Klinklang 3/5?
If so, you need to use a sync grid...
He literally only spends move gauge once. Then never again.
Klinklang is 5/5
you need Free move infliction
every time you T-wave, gives you free move next
making it spammable
reposting the gif
also works with Screech
Ah yeah I didn’t have that tile
You use 2 move gauge at the start.
Then everything else is free
Screech of course being slower when it fails, but you still need to click it 3 times
make sure to buff crit on your sync nuker of course, and give them SEUP
you're still setting up, but you gotta set up the nuke, not DPS
Hold up. So when do I buff my stats between thunder wave spamming and 3 screech’s
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