Damage Challenge

[icy pendant]

so -4 doesn't make a ton of sense

again that doesn't really matter, mine used cs2 and I hit 1.3 very easily

[rose basalt]

oh rip we dont

nvm

idk why i said sand blaster

i meant surging sand

[icy pendant]

even surging sand is only a dps skill

[rose basalt]

o

would weather3d warrior 3 be better

than cs 2

[icy pendant]

numerically yes since it's a 30% boost instead of a 20%

[strange notch]

Yeah if you never run out of Sand

[icy pendant]

but that also involves you having deluxe cookies left over outside of the superpowered 3 fund

[strange notch]

And tbh Paulo and Silver should both run WW3

Surging Sand 3 is fine too, no?

[icy pendant]

fine if you're ok with no damage boost on sync

[strange notch]

Honestly that’s still fine for one of the two this event

[rose basalt]

so i assune this grid for silver is good

[fluid tendon]

Probably the best I'm going to get with 2/5 Silver

[prisma quail]

We love to see it 🥰

[scenic grotto]

How’s this? (Tempted to not try again just because it leaves my total ticket count on an even number)

[prisma quail]

Looks really good for no ttar

[scenic grotto]

Getting 50k+ with a non limited damage dealer is always a good score no matter if it’s single target or multi target

[plush palm]

man olivia really needs that grid expansion

at least give her haymaker and ramming speed damnit

give her stalwart too

[broken swallow]

Dis

[plush palm]

whats the grid

congrats

I assume that uses SP3

[broken swallow]

It’s cs2 I’ll get the grid

[scenic grotto]

For Ground weak I have good and bad news for myself

[plush palm]

you might get some mileage out if exring rika

or exing bertha

[acoustic chasm]

You can get to -4 like this

[prisma quail]

Give her Field EX role

[plush palm]

i dont think theyre doing that for old genpools lol

maybe PF but not genpool

iirc lear is the only PF w/o 5/5 grid

plus lots of the other PFs still need roles

i think steven and raihan could use a bit of love

[broken swallow]

Needs caked red too

[rose basalt]

def doing something wrong

even with sand blaster and sandstorm on skill gear

im only using circle and b move on silver

and im spamming stone edge on paulo

and only using tm for red

[sweet grail]

@faint quiver

Help

Sides keep getting out of flinch too early

[rose basalt]

skill issue on my end for not getting it first attempt

[sweet grail]

RAHHHHHH

I HAD IT

[chilly prawn]

That’s unfortunate rock slide is quick start too

[sweet grail]

YESSSSSSSS

@faint quiver many thanks

Pretty sure

It can be a biiiit higher

If i didn't lose 200k from a sync lol

But eh

[sterile pilot]

100k short of reaching 1 mil with f2p units

[sweet grail]

Niceeee

Bro putting in real work

How many mpr did elesa need?

[sterile pilot]

enough

tbf 2 would be enough for the 5th sync but the more the merrier

[dusty ivy]

Bro

Is ss diantha rock zone really that useless

I got like 400k with her 1/5 with Olivia

Guh

[sterile pilot]

i mean it depends...

did you debuff their def?

[dusty ivy]

Yea

[olive obsidian]

I got 480k with ss diantha

[feral hamlet]

Alright, which master fair unit did I need to max out to get 500k this time?

[cloud timber]

sup

silly sweeping generalizations again

[acoustic chasm]

I really gotta get Red sometime in the future

[feral hamlet]

Normally I would stop here but I think I can push this a bit more

[shy totem]

anyone got a 5/5 red grid for dc?

[safe prawn]

For this?

[shy totem]

yeah

[safe prawn]

Or generic? Btw you just grab tm mpr and might friend 5/5 node, and adrenaline

Stop

[shy totem]

cant seem to see anyone in the doc with 5/5 entry

thats it huh?

ty

[swift pulsar]

Would love to see the grids & skills you have on them

[copper otter]

Yay, i did funny thing Japan players love to do.

Peak.

[shy totem]

alr i got 1.7m time to not retry

[copper otter]

Oh same

[shy totem]

could probably go way higher

but too much work

[copper otter]

[feral hamlet]

Oh is Paulo better? What about SC Steven vs Red?

[copper otter]

I used paulo and sc steven

[swift pulsar]

Yeah I might need some help here

These are the grids I’m using

[icy pendant]

Silver has a damage multiplier lucky skill? Those grids should clear 1m easily

[true locust]

His lucky skill do more then super 3?

[icy pendant]

what even is his personal LS?

I use CS2 on mine because I’m out of cookies to roll for super 3

[shy totem]

easier crits on moves and sync

[rose basalt]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=006400074502&s0=5&l0=150&r0=5&p0=20&a0=13016303&t0=444&g0=AAECAwQFBg4PERIeISUmKSwv&v1=013303024802&s1=3&l1=150&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13016303&t1=44444&x1=true&g1=AAECAwQFBhcaGx4fIiMkKC8&v2=000000014300&s2=3&l2=140&r2=6&p2=0&a2=15010101&t2=11111&x2=true&g2=AAECAwQFExYZGhwfJigpLA

my paulo and red does not have ex role

btw

[swift pulsar]

He has CS2

[swift pulsar]

All mine have Ex roles

[rose basalt]

should be easier for you then

[icy pendant]

1m needs a single mpr from Red beyond the max move so just get luckier I guess, idk how else to advise

[swift pulsar]

Looks like I’m missing something in the execution lol

[rose basalt]

i dont use stone edge for silver

[shy totem]

if u have 3/5 diantha its easier

[icy pendant]

as long as sand and circle are both up when you sync that shouldn’t be a problem

[shy totem]

or 2/5 even

[rose basalt]

i only used circle when i synced first time for silver and second time

[shy totem]

for tm mpr

[rose basalt]

i went red silver paulo and silver

if that helps

[shy totem]

double silver

[icy pendant]

4 character team

[rose basalt]

for sync

order

[shy totem]

this the dude in first place

[rose basalt]

next one is ground hmmm

[queen moth]

Yo damn??

[feral hamlet]

This one is fun because you're really cheating the sync countdown

Still, only managed 800k, which is about the same as my previous best. Turn order might be bad

[icy pendant]

ok I get that you have redlax exr and I don't but why am I still at half of this score

[civic island]

They're pretty much close, it's just that a sand setup is taking too much time

And when it's a rush against time, it's just 📉

Haymaker will fix that

[copper otter]

I really need sprint exr for silver

[cloud timber]

100k better than bp barry

[feral hamlet]

This is if I sync with Red first, then Paulo, then Silver. Can't seem to break through this total score.

[fluid tendon]

I got him back when I was f2p, and my brother grabbed him too

[copper otter]

I thought of something that will "fix" this meta that everyone complains about.

Critical hits that are super effective gives you +2 seconds per opponent, but a missed move gives you -5 sseconds.

This will encourage DPS play, allow you to chain the timer if skilled enough, and stop whiners on the Para bros

[teal haven]

Broke 1m

[acoustic chasm]

Sandstorm chip ftw

[fluid tendon]

Maybe someday it'll be possible to hit 1m with chip damage alone

[cloud timber]

that would be 10x more than the 100k damage chip damage calculates off of

[crude flume]

A unit that has Pokey Trap 9 passive with Pokey Trap 9 on Grid as well as Potent Toxin 9 passive and Potent Toxin 9 on Grid

Maybe then it will be possible

[fluid tendon]

Maybe something for stealth rock too

[crude flume]

Ok ngl…

I have some ideas now

[copper otter]

Omg

Oleana/foxanne/and someone else maybe? Can get turn one trap and poison

[crude flume]

No oleana unfortunately

[cloud timber]

one turn trap and one turn poison aren't important since you actually end up with a lot of time to kill when you're waiting for them to move

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1255888121648644197/1261311907998990406/IMG_7197.png?ex=66927fc0&is=66912e40&hm=f1b0904696ebb72af78a7fe9f3fc4759779eaeef335b05edde16d2f863add92a&

pykuo got that earlier

and idk what else you'd want

[copper otter]

What can cause dot, from your inputs?

Ss cyrus can, but it stops trap and poison

[cloud timber]

dunno what you mean

[copper otter]

When you use a move, it triggers DOT

Damage over time

I know ss cyrus can, but idk who else

[cloud timber]

that one ends up not dealing damage anyway

in this mode

[crude flume]

MOREEEEE

[icy pendant]

yeah SS Cyrus can only work on dark and NY Dawn can only work on ghost because they do damage of a specific type

however ny dawn on ghost with charging infliction is going to go hard on dot

[copper otter]

Thinking about summer tate for steel st.

[icy pendant]

omg doom desire is dot isn't it

[copper otter]

Ye

[tribal flax]

I pretty sure, better if the countdown is move count based

Like sync move 6 times then calculate u dps

so every move equal than animation?

but no sure lol

[copper otter]

Thats too much work, just keep it simple

[tribal flax]

or they can pause animation or count/standardize move's animation

of every move?

that is hard

[copper otter]

No need to change every move. Justt make it so that crits give you extra time, and misses make you lose time

No need for all thisoverhaul

[icy pendant]

"Take Critical Hit: Timer ^ 2" if they really want to be creative

[tribal flax]

ya maybe

[copper otter]

It promotes dps, it stops para strats, and allows you more time based on animation knowledge

[foggy sun]

This one was easy

[copper otter]

Trueee

[foggy sun]

[copper otter]

Curious if Olivia van hit 1 mil tho

[devout pelican]

I saw pokemath managed to do something like 980k

[copper otter]

Hmm

[crude flume]

Hear me out

[copper otter]

Omg

When is steel st again?

O...... sept

[cloud timber]

slow like metal sound and screech unfort

[copper otter]

Twave tho

[vernal condor]

"when its move is successful"

there's a reason only colress, bp barry and poppy are listed as status spammers in pins

Steel ST is one of these, I just don't know which yet

[cloud timber]

i just can't imagine outperforming poppy

[vernal condor]

the thing is marnie's nuke is nerfed by the mega

[copper otter]

How fast is poopy?

[vernal condor]

twave spam wise the same as colress

[copper otter]

I would assume giga hammer is s l o w

[vernal condor]

you click hammer once

at the end of the game lol

[copper otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/651487042886172682/1240716746080391318/bonk.gif

[cloud timber]

yeah that's worth the animation time

[vernal condor]

that's +10 pmun and seun lol

[rapid sparrow]

Welp I was gone for so long, my final poison score was 200k

[copper otter]

Sc steven moment.

[rapid sparrow]

What teams we using here for 1mil?

[copper otter]

Paulo/silver/scsteven

That's this rotation's meta

[rapid sparrow]

Well less Pay to win

I have Paulo and Silver but both 1/5

No steven whatsoever

[copper otter]

Swap steven for redlax

You're not focusing on sync damage

You're focusin on rock slide nuking

[rapid sparrow]

I just want 1 mil, the extra isn't really worth

Gotchu

So normal gameplay

No shenanigans

[copper otter]

Sort of

You do need to try and use sprint shenanigans on Paulo

Just to sync to reup rock slide

[rapid sparrow]

Use everything that gets me to sync faster so I can rockslide

Yup

Redlax -> Ttar -> Paulo?

Ttar caked

[cloud timber]

i'd still spam poppy's b move tho

[copper otter]

Redlax yea

Paulo second if caked

[cloud timber]

after building a few sync buffs

[rapid sparrow]

Paulo uncaked uncandied unwanted child

[copper otter]

Then suffer

[rapid sparrow]

My type of content

[sacred badger]

https://vxtwitter.com/TALDYSJfJNLjkzP/status/1811775529835700466

1m clear

[vernal condor]

Which means this also works on st

[sacred badger]

unfortunately, i dont have the power ups for Gordie so yikes.

[copper otter]

For the Para whiners.

[warped gulch]

[copper otter]

Think of it this way.

Nc serena can get +10 seconds from water shuriken

[sullen zephyr]

Too op

[copper otter]

Fine, multistrike attacks only count for one hit

[cloud timber]

that is also needlessly complicating things

[copper otter]

How is that complicated?

People are trying to make things more complicated by wanting to get rid of animations, pause the timer during animations, make the time turn based, or even make it so that the opponent's sync is the timer.

I've read so many of these that are more complicated than what i suggested which is a simple thing since it's event wise rather than unit wise

[last stream]

no quarter meta

[vernal condor]

[cloud timber]

because the mode is well-designed as is and reddit comments are garbage

[copper otter]

Ok true

[vernal condor]

People crying over a f2p strat is so stupid to me

[copper otter]

It really is

I genuinely don't care for it, but so many people complain about it to the point where I'm holdin myself back from responding to it

[vernal condor]

Have a premade answer and copy paste it everywhere

[sullen zephyr]

Why is reddit whining about t-wave spam again?

[copper otter]

Because boring meta

[last stream]

when you're 1/5 doesn't deal damage:

[vernal condor]

Because it's not regular gameplay

[last stream]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-tony-chopper-chopper-crying-agony-gif-25439477

[vernal condor]

Ouin ouin I cant do my usual triple queue with big dps

[crude flume]

Ok but:
No quarter pin missile or water shuriken

[vernal condor]

I'll cry about it and tell everyone that it sucks

[copper otter]

Ok but also, opponent can ruin the timer.

You got +10 seconds from 5 hit combo, lets have the opponent do rock tomb

[sullen zephyr]

New update: spenser is on poma, along with his facility's gimmick (auto only damage challenge)

[vagrant ivy]

why do people hate the para spam strats

[copper otter]

Not the ooga booga

People genuinely hate redlax being good and want him to be banned from this mode.

[cloud timber]

"unintuitive"

[copper otter]

They are legit saying "redlax is cheap and boring strats."

when it's his entire role as a unit.

[last stream]

I'd like an untimed challenge just for fun (or battle ends after opponent's 3rd sync).
It records the damage you did. And it's not ranked or anything but it's something we can record and keep and showcase how much XYZ team did in that time.

That way you can showcase say, a team of your choosing, using any strat.

[sullen zephyr]

Flinch meta

[rapid sparrow]

Hmm what am I doing wrong here

[rapid sparrow]

Based on how many moves we press rather than an actual live timer?

[sullen zephyr]

Nah you can't sit there not pressing anything because the enemy will sync eventually

[last stream]

just something, anything that would allow us to actually test comps.

[sullen zephyr]

That made me think of sync deceleration as a new mechanic

[last stream]

against the opp?

[sullen zephyr]

Yeah

[cloud timber]

as much as i don't fully understand it there is a very common sentiment among game devs that you just don't want to give into community criticism too much unless you want a watered down product

[rapid sparrow]

Now help me make my doodoo team do 1million

[last stream]

you could sell Move Gauge Siphon as a skill

[last stream]

more mpr?

[rapid sparrow]

Do we have any 1mil recorded clears with that team?

Maybe i am not utilizing full speed

[sullen zephyr]

The fast forward button?

[rapid sparrow]

No

[last stream]

the lowest silver is 2exr on the submissions

[rapid sparrow]

I meant as in there is a sync acceleration i am not fully taking advantage of

[warped gulch]

With Paulo and Red ?

[rapid sparrow]

Because this was my literal first attempt and I can't even replicate it 😭😂😂

[warped gulch]

Any caked ? jo

[last stream]

it says diantha

https://youtu.be/thzQVKNjfZg

[rapid sparrow]

Silver caked

Other 2 not

[warped gulch]

Lowest is 1/5

Bc i did that

[rapid sparrow]

You did 1 mil with 1/5 NCSilver Paulo Red?

[warped gulch]

Nah i have SS Diantha

[rapid sparrow]

Oh

I have her too

[warped gulch]

My Red isn’t caked too

[rapid sparrow]

Do you have recorded run for your boy

Or do I unga bunga

[warped gulch]

So this team has really low investment with 1/5 EX SS Diantha-1/5 NC Silver-1/5 EX Red

[warped gulch]

https://youtu.be/OBQ_GgrdhoA?si=8HvGBwWArI-_KTfb

[sullen zephyr]

I think 2/5 helps because silver has tm mpr, but if you get lucky with red you probably don't need it

[rapid sparrow]

My boy red does 666666666666 mprs

[warped gulch]

I only need 1 Tm mpr actually

[rapid sparrow]

Let me try that team in a minute

[sullen zephyr]

I watched that yesterday and wondered why you had silver use stone edge before tm at the beginning

[warped gulch]

Fish for miss

If i had 2 miss, i could have enough time for Diantha B Move

[sullen zephyr]

Oh that works?

[warped gulch]

Wait no, you need 3

[sullen zephyr]

I ended up using all 3 tms in the first turn to shave off a full sync cycle

[warped gulch]

Yeah i need 3 Stone Edge miss

Which is unlikely

But worth a try

[acoustic chasm]

Kid named Water Shuriken:

Forgot to reply

[copper otter]

omg, this mode is really ticking me off, I am so close to my last sync, but as soon as i get it, flinch wears off.

[plush palm]

tm mpr simulator

[sullen zephyr]

Time to complain on reddit

[copper otter]

i'm not that down bad

[plush palm]

got 2 TM mprs on diance

only reason i managed to hit 1m

could have probably hit higher than that if redlax got a mpr for my last sync

[copper otter]

I AM GOING TO SCREAM INTO A PILLOW.

HAHA FUNNI QUADQUEUE FAIL

[sturdy pebble]

Do you have a vid?

[plush palm]

nope

can show my gear tho

+10% sync probably helps a lot

honestly theres no strategy just sync rushing

[strange notch]

What the fuck Nick 😭

[plush palm]

and not using b move till you need last ditch dps

[strange notch]

What are you cooking rn

[crude flume]

Cooking with my apron and chefs hat

[strange notch]

I smell smoke

[copper otter]

Quadqueueing is making me angy

EVERY SINGLE TIME, I am 1 countdown away from SYNCING

Silver: "what? ARE YOU BITTER?"

[acoustic chasm]

Hear me out: replace lucy with a "stop hitting yourself" confusion pair and pray for confusion hits for extra damage + faster anim

[crude flume]

Confusion is a long animation still

And also praying for luck

Ew

[copper otter]

I know i can hit 2 mil, I'M SO CLOSE

I KEEP GETTING GATEKEPT

[fluid tendon]

We need a way to increase enemy gauge so we can get passive damage ticks faster

[dry whale]

This MP refresh run is awful , I've been so close but have not been able to get the last sync. I think I can hit 2.3-2.4 million but it's just do I really want to reset that much.

[copper otter]

Hold up, imma stream this for you all, and show you the hell.

[acoustic chasm]

Court Change MGA

[copper otter]

how dare you post this to add to my salt

[fluid tendon]

Now we're cookin

[copper otter]

streaming my run on this

I want you all to see this paing

[sacred badger]

lol....

ffine. i'll listen

i wont watch

[copper otter]

i won't be talking

so. rip

[devout pelican]

Oh, the saltening

Then again, they are probably mad their ontype dps cannot do well

[stoic crest]

So for this is colress okay to be replaced by Steven stoutland?

[copper otter]

paing

[acoustic chasm]

I like how they went "let's replace the f2p friendly strat with "don't have Palmer? Too bad" "

[fluid tendon]

Just wait til we get Whitney's EX

[copper otter]

cool, can't quadqueue now

omg, the game lagged so much, my timer went down 6 seconds

WHY CAN'T I QUAD QUEUE NOW?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

OMG I GOT IT?

[sacred badger]

HE DID ITT

LOLOLOL

[copper otter]

A R E Y O U B I T T E R ?

[sacred badger]

THE LAG SAVED YOU LOLOL

[copper otter]

G e t R o c k e d.

ok, I'm good now, I just wanted to get 2 mil since it was 100% possible

[acoustic chasm]

GG

[copper otter]

weathered my patience more like:

[surreal venture]

Phew. Silver the GOAT

[surreal venture]

What did you spam? Since you don't have Colress or Barry

[copper otter]

Stone edge

also i didn't really spam anything

Anyways. Gladab.

[icy pendant]

omg Gladion's stuck in 2016 💀

[dusty ivy]

[upbeat parrot]

Best option for me is Olivia here?

I have red and colress if it matter

[civic island]

Only if EX

[upbeat parrot]

ex is obtainable for anyone on screen

[civic island]

But don't feel forced to, she's not reching 1M

Consider we swap stage twice a week, you may prefer investing EX in other units

Beside Ingo Emmet and ssDiantha should do some damage

[stoic crest]

Is this the grid I want for red lax?

Please ping me

[icy pendant]

I don’t see TM MPR here

[stoic crest]

Do we have a photo of the grid I want?

[cloud timber]

only tm mpr and adrenaline matter

[icy pendant]

yeah it’s 1/5 grid + adrenaline for you

[cloud timber]

(though i used on a roll this time)

[stoic crest]

What is the 1/5?

I'm having trouble loading stuff without restarting everything else.

[cloud timber]

1/5 is move level so the grid you get without expansion from higher move levels

which is basically just the tm mpr

[icy pendant]

probably turns into something like this at 3/5, I grabbed mini potion mpr to have more fast moves available just in case ™️

[cloud timber]

trainer move mp refresh if you didn't catch that

[hexed owl]

Hi. Was just curious since it may have been tried already here... How much does one get on average on a single or multi target DC stage with Gladion EX, Redlax rolEX and coloress?

[stoic crest]

Thank you!

He needs a cake right?

Also do I sync with red or silver first?

[hexed owl]

Better to sync with Red first and if you've got the resources to cake, may as well cake him since he's a decent support overall

[cloud timber]

he doesn't "need" a cake but it obv helps

[stoic crest]

I gave red a cake should I change anything else?

Please ping

[hexed owl]

I guess nothing else. The experts have probably mentioned everything and could follow similar videos

[cloud timber]

yea that's pretty much what you'd want and you can check clear sheet in the pins for videos

there's one there with that team but 3/5 silver that you could still attempt to follow

[stoic crest]

I guess this isn't bad?

Not sure what other scored points are

[cloud timber]

sandstorm damage in this case

[civic island]

Olivia EX can reach 600-700 w similar setups so I think you cam push a bit more

[stoic crest]

Oh wow 😳

I wonder what I am doing wrong? I'm really not sure what to do with lax and Steven when they are out of trainer moves.

[upbeat parrot]

Score is around 200. Prob 300 for me. Barely any

Also i have like 300-350 spareable gold tickets, will barely feel few more exes

[vagrant ivy]

what should I do

[civic island]

Oh then fine, you van try this
#1255888121648644197 message

Or other pinned Olivia clears

[civic island]

1/5 silver isn't doing much but maybe swapping Olivia ex can work

It's extra multipliers for her nuke

[stoic crest]

I'm also tempted to candy him honestly. He is a strong pair to begin with and a favorite.

[sacred badger]

https://vxtwitter.com/TALDYSJfJNLjkzP/status/1811775529835700466 something like this.

[rain copper]

Remove SS Hau immediately

If you don't have Redlax or SC Steven, bring a physical support/defense debuffer

[young steeple]

Anyone managed to hit 1 mil with 1/5EXR Silver? Any tips or is it even possible? Best I’ve gotten is 900k with this team.

[rain copper]

That team can get 1m with more Red's TM MPR

I cant check the pinned doc rn, but i think there are some 1/5 Silver clears documented there

[young steeple]

Oh. This score is already with 2-3 Red TM MPR 😅. Insane RNG luck needed. Shd I cake Red? He’s sprint EXR right?

I’ll check the pinned doc, thanks Gakon

[rain copper]

Red's cake really helps in this mode, so do consider it

[young steeple]

Ok. Sounds like a good investment Thanks!

[craggy pond]

1/5 Emmet or Olivia better?

or 3/5 Emmet he's a fave but I've never had an excuse to candy him lol

[pure stream]

You think this grid will work for Midnight Lycanroc?

[warped gulch]

Focus on Sync

Like why you take Witty Comeback 3

[pure stream]

That’s the original grid from the grid link

And I just copied it cause Idk what each sync pair needs. That’s why I rely on the sync grids link

[rain copper]

Olivia is better for sync spam

Grid her with Inertia

[warped gulch]

Can you share it, bc i dont see that grid ?

Olivia has different grid depend on her teammates

[rain copper]

You should understand what does the pair need for this content, instead of copying a preset without being aware of its purpose. It doesn't even take too much effort

Sync nuke is crucial for high score, that means you want to grid her with sync multipliers

[pure stream]

So then this?

Cause Idk what to use the remaining energy for

[rain copper]

I dont see the tile that matters - Inertia - is picked

Don't bother picking BP tiles for her attack moves, you don't use these moves until the very last seconds

[plush palm]

amped up 2 is worth grabbing to help speed up setup

completely useless anywhere else

[pure stream]

I wish defense wasn’t a problem for Olivia. Should I just not use Hard as Diamonds at all?

[robust meteor]

Wow thanks Tom for the video! NC Silver is legit

[cloud timber]

defense shouldn't be a problem in this game mode

[pure stream]

Midnight Lycanroc keeps losing health easily

[mossy adder]

I’m looking for at least 1M and I have a few spare candies, how should I use them?
(Also does this work or should I use Red/snorlax?)

[cloud timber]

make adjustments to suit your needs

[cloud timber]

there are videos in the clear sheet in the pins, swapping bp barry for red will let you match one of those teams

[warped gulch]

You can try this https://youtu.be/OBQ_GgrdhoA?si=FaSJJvEKWrmbHXxN

[young steeple]

Finally hit 1 mil! Caking Red made the difference

[mossy adder]

ty everyone

[pure stream]

Is there something I’m missing? Nothing’s really happening

I mean for maxed out, I would appreciate if I could see at least maybe 250k

[rain copper]

There is a lot of problem

You didnt do triple queue at start, Olivia doesnt even have max offensive buffs, Barry should be the only one spamming moves after the first sync and Olivia is fully buffed

Check the pinned doc for example clears

I dont even know if Olivia has the right grid

[pure stream]

I was told to grid inertia and amped up 2. I don’t know what else to grid

[cloud timber]

you can give olivia stalwart as a lucky skill so you can buff her crits without drawbacks

and you want to make sure she reaches +6 speed before she starts syncing for maximum sync power

it is ok to use moves other than stun spore

just make sure olivia gets all her buffs

[sacred badger]

https://x.com/EEVEEmath/status/1811948470657523736 wtf D:

こへ（ポケmath） (@EEVEEmath) on X

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[pure stream]

How’s this?

[sacred badger]

that late use xd

[pure stream]

Yeah, I got hesitant about how to queue and how to run this. Cause I was told to triple queue, so I didn’t know exactly how to do it with these sync pairs

[rain copper]

You still didnt do triple queue

Dont let Steven stand there, use his B Move

You can use his TM on Olivia for PMUN stack + speed buffs too, but dont consume those stack until near the end

[pure stream]

So when I run out of B moves, am I spamming tackle then until I reach near the end to triple queue?

[rain copper]

Once Olivia is fully buffed, and opponents have -6 defense debuffs, only spam Stun Spore

You still want to use SEUN om Olivia's second and third sync

No need to attack with Olivia too, use Steven's TM to buff speed

[normal parcel]

Guzma has -2 sync with 1st impression, and 2 free actions with the other 2 first impression, has a quicker setup, and more sync BP nodes, plus Olivia shouldn't really use sand blaster 5 because she can't bring her own sand and sand hurts with time

[limber onyx]

Is this team good?
I'm using Rose (sync grid on the right) as my main dps and Paulo for the faster sync.

[rain copper]

You can give it a try

But i think you dont have to rush sync

[cloud timber]

there's a rose clear with 1.1m but it had ss steven and c bede

seems like you'd want a lot of gauge to get out a bunch of stone edges

[warped gulch]

And very fast ramp too

[normal parcel]

Isn't only that is that the trick only works with status inducing moves, it doesn't works on stuffs like screech, iron defense or charm (but I think it works on stuffs like noble roar and maybe cosmic power)

[pure stream]

So do you want me to do this? Stun spore, an Olivia buff, tackle then stun spore, an Olivia buff, Stoutland B move, then the same thing again, then Barry sync move and kinda repeat the same process until neither Steven has a buddy move nor Olivia has any buffs?

[cloud timber]

multi buff/debuff moves work yeah, but of those only oleana venom drench twofer is gaugeless (and only works on unpoisoned targets)

[sacred badger]

Damn. Ran out of seuns

Hmm

time to give Redlax Head Start 1 then

[rain copper]

Pretty much

[limber onyx]

So, Paulo was odd and it turns out using Wide Guard is time-consuming... but it works because Rose is there?

[rain copper]

You better use an EX support with speed buffs

Using Wide Guard is pointless too

[limber onyx]

I mean I got Sycamore and Sonia in my back pocket. And also like...

Hilbert and Tina.

And Paulo.

[rain copper]

They are way better options than Roxanne

Paulo is great with his ramp and buffs

[limber onyx]

I also have his EX Role unlocked.

[rain copper]

Try him then

When gauge sucks, keep using Colress's TW to rush sync

[sacred badger]

https://vxtwitter.com/EEVEEmath/status/1811954513387167949

[limber onyx]

Alr.

Thanks. This worked a ton.

[plush basalt]

Mannn what am I doing wrong qq

[normal parcel]

You are using 1/5 silver

[thin wren]

rock f2p hit 1 mil ?

[plush basalt]

People said they got 1 mil with 1/5 Silver

[thin wren]

are you clicking his b move at the correct moments

[normal parcel]

F2p damage dealer + redlax

[thin wren]

you need to keep them flinched for as long as you can

[plush basalt]

Maybe. What's the correct moment?

Hmm

[thin wren]

when they get out of flinch

[rain copper]

The pins have proof of 1/5 Silver clear iirc

[thin wren]

has rock surpasses 3 mil yet

[rain copper]

Not yet i recall

[normal parcel]

Maybe Rolex are the difference

[thin wren]

would rock have a weaker peak than bug?

[warped gulch]

I still able to hit 800k

But my Silver isn’t EX and both Red and Silver are cakeless

[thin wren]

not nearly as strong sync nuke, no rebuff and fast dps but can't use sync rush that well

[normal parcel]

Bug has a tech strike nuker so it should have an edge over rock

Also bug had a better f2p option

[warped gulch]

Not ST

[normal parcel]

Bug st would be hellish for f2p

[warped gulch]

Rock at least has Gordie

Bug has nothing

[normal parcel]

Bug AOE > Rock AOE
Rock ST >>> Bug ST

[warped gulch]

Waiting for Roark EX to have Rock AOE >= Bug AOe

[normal parcel]

Bug st is just the most miserable for f2p units

And Maybe ground AOE

Wondering if for grass AOE Brendan would have a better time than olivia

[vagrant ivy]

units that do aoe well can also do st well

but units that can only do st can’t do much in aoe

[plush basalt]

What's the method for this?

Spam Stone Edge?

[warped gulch]

No no

Do you have SS Diantha ?

[plush basalt]

Yes

1/5

[warped gulch]

https://youtu.be/OBQ_GgrdhoA?si=pPaZSkh_4nyr23dU

You can try this

Silver has WW3, Diantha has Cs2

[plush basalt]

KK tyyy

I'll check it out

[normal parcel]

Units that can do AOE well will have their sync damage cut to 1/3, but st unit won't really get reduced damage if aoe

[warped gulch]

Not really

3vs3 enemy move much faster

= less Sync than 1vs3

[normal parcel]

But if your sync damage is cut by 66% doesn't matters much

[warped gulch]

So ST pairs still hurt at 3vs3

[scenic grotto]

Thank you Twitter user for giving me a strategy that allowed me to obtain 20 more tickets

[normal parcel]

Still at disadvantage, but not 66% weaker

[warped gulch]

I’ll not say 66% weaker

50% weaker

Bc 3vs3 you fire 4 Syncs, but 3vs1 you fire 5 Syncs

[normal parcel]

But tech nukers generally have better syncs than striker nuke/3

[warped gulch]

But you said Striker nuker got weaker by 66% is incorrect

Bc you’ll use 1 more Sync at 3vs1 when compared to 3vs3

[normal parcel]

I mean the nuke itself becomes 66% weaker, then if you land an extra one I guess it helps with that

[warped gulch]

Oh, i thought total dmg

Mb

Sr

[normal parcel]

In the end if you don't use the proper class of unit you are at disadvantage regardless

[warped gulch]

Not f2p Bug sadly

Guzma’ll be try to carry Bug even again ST

[normal parcel]

I don't think Guzma as good as Geeta

And Geeta had big trouble getting 1m

[fluid venture]

What do you mean by the sync damage is cut to 1/3 ?

[warped gulch]

.

[normal parcel]

You hit just 1 target instead of 3

[fluid venture]

So ST actually means single opponent and MT when there are 3 ?

[normal parcel]

Yes

[fluid venture]

I thought it was the target of our moves.

[normal parcel]

Guzma scored well is MT because his 6ex sync did 3 times the damage

[limber kettle]

I’ve seen a few 3mill scores, what’s going on there?

Pykuo wrong chat lol

[warped gulch]

Oh sr

[limber kettle]

You made your way over to DC lmao

[warped gulch]

Idk how lol

[limber kettle]

Dw I just wanted to let ya know

[warped gulch]

Guess it time to sleep

[old osprey]

Finally

[unborn vault]

I am lacking Steven or Diantha or even Paulo and Colress, who could be a good 3rd?

[hybrid lagoon]

NC Silver owners do be chilling in this dc

[spiral halo]

Thanks to this channel! As a non NC Silver haver this is relieving

[ivory kestrel]

A few close calls to one more sync to try upping this score. But fishing for that Redlax mpr streak is So maybe i’ll settle for this

[lapis yarrow]

Can you share your grids and lucky skills? I need to try this. Non Silver owner too lol

[cunning rock]

New PB based on this video

[sacred badger]

i'm having trouble on her 4th sync 😭

[cunning rock]

And I don't have extra sync orbs for Olivia's X Atk MPR so I had to rely on Redlax's Max Knuckle to max her atk but I'm stuck with his TM MPR at that point

[sacred badger]

i need like 2 to 3 MP refreshes on Redlax and 1 X Attack MP Rerfresh

[pure stream]

So this?

[cunning rock]

We definitely need a bunch of full paras for this to work. Especially against those Dazzling Gleams because those take way too long

[pure stream]

Cause you said to triple queue but I didn’t get the results I was hoping for

[rain copper]

You are not supposed to save Steven's TM for the end

Use it early to buff Inertia

Aka use it last after using triple B move

[pure stream]

So switch roles with the TM and the super effective?

[rain copper]

Idk what do you mean by switch roles but dont save TM until very last seconds

And don't expect high score without EX Olivia

[pure stream]

Does everyone have to be EX in order to get a high score?

[rain copper]

Nope

Just Olivia

[pure stream]

So you know how in the video, I used super effective twice for Steven before using the TM? So basically switch to using the TM before the super effective

[normal parcel]

Barry too but is already ex

[lapis yarrow]

Used your video and only got 80k lol I suck at these challenges

[rain copper]

I did tell you that save SEUN for Olivia's second and third sync before

[pure stream]

I have no idea what the U and N in SEUN means

[cursive linden]

SEUN: Super Effective UP Next
PMUN: Physical Move UP Next
SMUN: Special Move UP Next

[devout pelican]

They are all Korean names

[rapid sparrow]

Why did that make sense in my mind 😭

[vernal condor]

#character-concept-crafting message

[ivory kestrel]

so im a bit game planning for the Dragon 3-target DC, with SS Zerena. and after frustrations in landing full crit syncs in the Bug and this Rock 3T DCs, I think it would be wise to get the Soften Up in her grid... though even with +6e, you can't get all the desired sync-related tiles

[spiral halo]

SS Diantha with CS2
Both Red and Colress have Head Start 1
Before 1st sync i dropped their defenses and speed to -6
You need to have 6 sync buffs to reach a million, so needs luck in Red & SS Diantha's TM MPRs

[civic island]

Yoo nice
And olivia to 1M 📈

[stoic crest]

What grid would silver want at 3/5 for this? Please ping

[rain copper]

[pure stream]

Also, I’m talking about the main damage dealer for every damage challenge

Forgot to be more explicit

[rain copper]

you want the EX tech nuker for ST stages and EX strike for MT stages

that's obvious

[sacred badger]

its either Olivia or Gordie

though Gordie run wants SC Steven

and the gordie run doesnt even run Burn Sync 2 (or was it 3)

but the Max Move is used at the very end like 1-2 second left

[lapis yarrow]

Thanks. Do you have a video of your run?

[pure stream]

Stupid Ribombee keeps taking its time using dazzling gleam

It’s stopping me from getting my 4th sync move

[rain copper]

Try a different approach, like not using all Steven's B Move to save time

[spiral halo]

No lol but in my fumbled runs that lineup typically scored 700k so pretty good

[lapis yarrow]

Can I DM you to ask more questions?

[spiral halo]

Sure!

[copper otter]

So this was one of my fumbles at the end because i miscounted my sync count, but I wanted to give folks an idea of a run WITHOUT spamming moves.

[ivory kestrel]

damnit, i forgot to re-up Johto Circle during the 2nd to the last sync round... wasted a perfect Redlax TM MPR luck run

[copper otter]

inb4 people whine about framerates. YES I PLAY LIKE THIS, BITE ME

[pure stream]

So I have little to no WiFi so I can’t show the video, but that approach didn’t work. Ribombee takes years to use dazzling gleam

[vernal condor]

erm sowwy but you game is vewy laggy you should buy a bettew phone

[normal parcel]

My best so far, I think I could have gotten more with more redlax tm refreshes

[dusty ivy]

No ncsilver is suffering

[normal parcel]

NC silver is basically the only optimal unit, every othern unit struggles at getting 1m

Cordless/Barry definitely not meta this time

But still useful for Olivia clears I guess

[plush palm]

colress is ok for ss diantha

saves you the long ass b move animation

[devout pelican]

Just like Oleana and SS Roxie are core in last DC

[normal parcel]

I saw someone getting 1m with Olivia but I don't know how much RNG is involved

[cunning rock]

Them getting full paralyzed is needed outside of Olivia X Attack MPR to get enough time to sync for the 5th time

[lapis yarrow]

sync for 5 times with Olivia? How? 😩😩

[sacred badger]

Get lucky with mp refreshes

[cunning rock]

Colress Thunder Wave spam and Redlax TM sync countdown + SEUN

[sacred badger]

And colress tw yeah ;-;

[cunning rock]

Also yeah, Gladion getting fully para'd is essential because those extra seconds matter

[sacred badger]

Like.. olivia tm refresh unless you use Redlax max move to buff atk, still needs 3 or more mp refresh on redlax tm

[cunning rock]

Their Redlax was 1/5 so they had to increase Olivia's sync cap to nab X Atk MPR instead.

[ivory kestrel]

Listing out the “MVPs” in each DC, so far we had:
Psychic MT - LuSSamine
Fighting ST - NC Hop
Bug MT - SS Hilbert
Poison ST - Oleana
Rock MT - NC Silver
Ground ST - Courtney ???
Ghost MT - SC Irida ???
Flying ST - NC Cheren ???

[copper otter]

Ghost MT will be Yarrdenia

[teal haven]

have we have ground, ghost, and flying?! or are those hypotheticals

[copper otter]

those are next up

[teal haven]

ah

good to know

[copper otter]

Ground will be tuesday, and that one will be a massive tossup because for one.... ground is S L O W

[rain copper]

Fall Roxanne could be better than Courtney if the best Courtney team didn't run Redlax

[copper otter]

Courtney has Defense crush as a passive so she will be useful, the problem is gauge usage

that's my main concern with Ground, how will gauge be used.

I will also put some wager that VGio will be the sleeper unit here

[rain copper]

Just sync rush

[teal haven]

well it depends if you go for bulldoze spam or sync spam

...

[copper otter]

sync spam 100%

[teal haven]

what gakon said

[copper otter]

SC Adaman also will have use

[civic island]

Make him tatget, remove lessen burn and go dps

[teal haven]

rika solo

[rain copper]

Idt his sync is good compared to Courtney if you go sync rush route

[copper otter]

Rika DOT gaming

[rain copper]

Hmm but B Move is giga cringe

[civic island]

Bmove + burn animations

[copper otter]

oh right, burn animation

[rain copper]

They burn your time

[copper otter]

sc adaman shafted

[rain copper]

🔥

It's either Courtney or bust

[teal haven]

bertha passive damage only

[civic island]

[rain copper]

Real

[crude sandal]

Super Syncer or entry passives on Courtney?

[rain copper]

Earthen Opening Sync

[civic island]

Bertha would be my best bet but idk abt raising her atk and bringing utility, pain

Sonia?

[rain copper]

Sand animation:

Also trap

And i believe you won't use Stealth Rock

[civic island]

Nop

[ivory kestrel]

I feel like S-Gardenia will be a beast enhancer for the Ghost team, but it will be SC Irida who will be doing scores like what SS Hilbert in Bug MT

Also lol, Yarrdenia, love it!

[swift pulsar]

So this worked

[copper otter]

Rock Slide DPS goes off

[limber kettle]

What’s the strat and grids for this?

[copper otter]

pray for Red MPR, buff Rock slide, pray for crits.

[acoustic chasm]

I just wasted 20 cookies rolling SP3 on Courtney and then finding out she already had it for some reason

Was just not equipped

[teal haven]

idk about red or steven, but this is the best silver imo

[teal haven]

.

[ivory kestrel]

Btw, TIL Surf is a legal move for Weavile lol

[plush palm]

maybe grab TM mpr if youre willing to fuck around w/ rng

[ivory kestrel]

Circle S-Move 9 is too much of a boost to be left out imo

[crude sandal]

Maybe something like this:
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/13303/24802?s=3&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=13016303&g=AAECAwQFBhcaHyIkKCosLS8&x=true

[stark sphinx]

I believe if i had 5/5 gordie i’d hit 1m 🤔

[plush palm]

SP3?

might bump you up a bit if youre still running CS2

[stark sphinx]

SP3 better than CS2?

[ivory kestrel]

For DCs, yes, since you are only dealing super effective damage, reminder that SP3 affects both dps and sync

30% > 20%

[cloud timber]

it's only a maximum of a ~10% difference (if every sync and move crits) and boosts like pmun/seun can diminish the difference a lot

just tested in game

[cloud timber]

and you very likely can't afford to put on sp3 on everything you'd want it for

i'd look for x attack mpr to get to +6 attack, make sure you have that gridded and reset until you get that +6 start

[stark sphinx]

this and weavile burned, still stuck at ~800k with SP3 🤔

[normal parcel]

Immagine for ground having the f2p option as the best option

Or there's a better premium ground nuker?

[fluid tendon]

It'd certainly give them incentive for them to make a new one if that were to happen

[normal parcel]

Bertha has more sync multipliers and higher BP, but sand + trap is a bad combo for dc

[plush palm]

fall roxanne

[normal parcel]

Especially if you are running Barry, and you have to roll sand shelter LS on him

[cloud timber]

great for “other scored points” maxing but bad for everything else

[normal parcel]

Other scored doesn't adds much

[cloud timber]

gets to 130k if you're entirely focused on it

still bad for actual high scoring ofc

[plush palm]

unfortunately sandstorm adds to the timer

[normal parcel]

I mean if you are so desperate that you need to offtype DC then I guess Bertha is the way

[plush palm]

honestly youd be better off using gladion than bertha off type

[cloud timber]

gladion can 250k so there's another benchmark

but yea not intended to be a serious context

[ivory kestrel]

i'm curious how high you'd get from spamming Mega Kick with SS Gio. shame one of his dps multiplier is Surging Sand, coz Sand + DPS focus is also a bad combo

[normal parcel]

Wondering if ash could get 999.999 by just landing his b move

Definitely the most evergreen units for this mode are redlax and SC Steven (plus Barry and colress)

[cloud timber]

larry trailing a bit behind but at least no worrying about mprs like redlax while still being able to compete

[civic island]

Bugscy being good enough to get extra 100k

[plush palm]

not sure why youre using him over colress?

[civic island]

Alrd used colress, but got better (or easier results with bugsy)
I mean Circle is giving to silver 10% damage on sync, 10% on moves and 15% dmg on master passive
Not to mention the +1 eva which helps getting one miss or proc

[plush palm]

huh interesting

[civic island]

https://youtu.be/3tsQdf6_IDY?si=uifN1pqJRLG4p3ZG

I can push this comp to 2M with a different pattern but required too many tries and three Red mpr
One is already enough

This is more like a compromise

[rapid sparrow]

Thanks btw @warped gulch
I did it when you told me but got busy so forgot to mention it
I did it slightly different from your run because i couldn't replicate your run exactly, but I hit 1mill which was my goal from the get go

[pure stream]

Also, I don’t get why I haven’t hit 500k yet or anything like that

[teal haven]

If you boost to 70 you could do it unless you give up sand blaster 9 (same boost)

[civic island]

You def need that johto circle

[hollow whale]

Seems Gordie is my best option?

Too bad he ain’t EX lol

[acoustic heath]

lol I’m screwed

[teal haven]

what are you scoring with that team?

[edgy hemlock]

Olivia gaming

[rotund sierra]

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[teal haven]

Olivia is probably your best bet

There are a lot of videos you can go off of

[plush palm]

diantha can def do it

might need a TM MPR or 2 tho

idk about hilda

[rotund sierra]

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[teal haven]

Diantha may be better but I'm unfamiliar with the pair

[rain copper]

does your Snorlax have EXR?

[rotund sierra]

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[plush palm]

the grid i and someone else in here used

could drop the +10 atk for trip twice i guess

[rain copper]

use him instead of Elesa

[plush palm]

colress / redlax / diantha team

[rotund sierra]

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[teal haven]

Different

[rain copper]

i reckon Snorlax is better here thanks to sync cd + SEUN + Support EX

SEUN is equal to zone boost anyway, albeit one time boost

[rotund sierra]

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[rain copper]

Olivia is better

you rush sync

[rotund sierra]

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[plush palm]

TM MPR on diantha is for sync rushing

idk if you can hit 1M w/ olivia

[rain copper]

what was your strat?

[plush palm]

just sync rush lol

[rain copper]

because i could only reach 600k with 3/5 Diantha, but with BP Barry instead of Colress

hmm

[plush palm]

i have her +6

from back when i was attempting the terrakion solo

[rain copper]

so you resetted for a TM MPR? when do you use them?

[plush palm]

after her mega

it doesnt really matter imo

more syncs... more dmg

[rain copper]

[plush palm]

+10% from gear

[sturdy pebble]

Can it be done with a 1/5 Red

[plush palm]

could probably make up for it w/ sp3

[plush palm]

needs exr unless you wanna reset for a lot of sync accel

[sturdy pebble]

That I do have

[rotund sierra]

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[plush palm]

the only thing he gets at 3/5 is adrenaline tbh

and you can afford to LS that if you give HS to colress

[sturdy pebble]

How

[plush palm]

i should probably record a clear

after dinner

im hungry and this bus is slow asf

[sturdy pebble]

Please do

I am NOT smart

[rotund sierra]

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[cloud timber]

yea prob

[rotund sierra]

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[rain copper]

iirc every stage has at least an aoe move

[rain copper]

it's worse than the 70 atk one

[rotund sierra]

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[rain copper]

ah mb

i can't do calcs rn, but i think the 20 atk is better

[thin wren]

Tuesday is single ground right?

[rain copper]

yeah

[thin wren]

oof

my only limited grounds are Rika and Maxie lmao

[plush palm]

ex courtney should work just fine

[cloud timber]

3% would be better if you have an attack stat above 666

in the cases where the bonus even activates

[thin wren]

how strong is Courtney nuke

and what are the multipliers

[rain copper]

she is the best option if you have Redlax

her nuke is great

[rotund sierra]

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[thin wren]

she's the strongest st ground nuke?fr?

[cloud timber]

yea

[thin wren]

huh

[dry whale]

I had it then Silver did not crit everything. This should have been 2.3 maybe 2.4

Hitting quads and multiple mp refreshes makes this horrible.

[cloud timber]

for courtney i have no idea

[thin wren]

has rock crossed 3 mil yet?

[cloud timber]

yep

[rain copper]

Fall Roxanne has better nuke but Courtney comp allows her to take advantage of both SEUN + zone

while Foxanne has to choose between zone and SEUN for sync rush strat

[teal haven]

What's seun again?

[cloud timber]

super effective up next

[teal haven]

Oh

Duh

[cloud timber]

top score is 3.57m

somehow

[teal haven]

Does seun and the other up next effects work with sync moves tho? I thought it was normal attack moves only

[rain copper]

SEUN affects sync and max moves

PMUN and SMUN do not

[cloud timber]

yep

[thin wren]

do we know what strat they used

[cloud timber]

nope!

[plush palm]

gonna try to record a 1m clear again

didnt get the snorlanx mpr i needed

[teal haven]

https://tenor.com/view/themoreyouknow-more-know-gif-4483207

[plush palm]

i got the 1M clear recorded

def lower than it can be tho

even if i got the double diantha MPR

[rotund sierra]

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[cloud timber]

...huh?

[plush palm]

ok uploading it atm

https://youtu.be/p68aHoPcY-g?si=AFwZ6QpHaWOlm6SJ

def suboptimal btw

missed a redlax mpr

so no SEUP on the last sync

@rain copper @sturdy pebble you wanted to see it

[rain copper]

thanks

[civic island]

Depend on the base offensive stat
For a quick generic comparison with multipliers you can think that a +5 offensive stats means
At 600 = 0.75%
At 500 = 0.9%
At 400 = 1%

That's why custom feathers kinda sucks by their own

You can't go wrong by rolling raw stats on skill gears

[robust meteor]

so from what I'm reading, seems like Redlax BP Barry and Courtney should be a solid team for next DC?

[cloud timber]

should be

[robust meteor]

would SC Steven be better in there?

[cloud timber]

i would think so

[civic island]

If no sandstorm involved, turnskipping is always noice

[cloud timber]

idk if you could expect 1m out of that team but we'll see

[robust meteor]

so SC Steven BP Barry Courtney would be better?

[cloud timber]

yea

[robust meteor]

I guess rebuff and Def debuff is good enough to offset sync accel?

[cloud timber]

i don't have sc steven but i kinda just assume he's better for enabling physical damage dealers

bc he's definitely doing a lot of stuff i can't replicate with redlax or larry

[civic island]

Problem of sc steven n courtney are speed debuffs

[robust meteor]

Courtney doesn't need speed debuffs for sync. Hunter's Instinct is for normal moves. Courtney would need a TM refresh to max her own Att & Crit though

[civic island]

True

Idk why I was thinking abt kekwok

[robust meteor]

no worries, I only "knew" because I'm looking at her grid haha

[civic island]

So yea sc steven + barry

[robust meteor]

Courtney needs 5 clicks to fully set herself up (3 TM and 2 X Defense but hopefully with BP Barry she can still sync 3 times? or is that wishful thinking?

[cloud timber]

sounds standard to me

[civic island]

Ye

[rain copper]

do you have Redlax? with Sentry Entry 1 gridded she shaves off many turns buffing

[civic island]

Sentry entry is in a good spot on her grid imo

[robust meteor]

yeah I do have Redlax, but wondering who's better Redlax or SC Steven

[sullen zephyr]

Is redlax gonna be a staple for many DC stages to come? Is it time to cake him?

[robust meteor]

so far, he's very useful in DC so worth caking imo

[thin wren]

he's gonna be a very nice budget option for most dcs

he's worth the cake

[rain copper]

Redlax imo

[civic island]

Sc steven is mostly on the physical side amd he's damn good ok that
Redlax can help evertywhere, maabe you can't reach top scores but overall it's a safe bet

You may lose on physical and gain on special, as long as you can keep the 1M you're good

[thin wren]

sc Steven gives rebuff so that's a constant+33%

seun

no Accel but that matters less

defense debuffs

pmun for one final blow

[iron timber]

What move level do I need sygna diantha for 1m?

[thin wren]

and iirc better with gauges

redlax gives

accel

sprint support sync

seun

and attack buffs

[civic island]

+2 sync buffs and -3 sync cd + double adrenaline + tm is somethting

[thin wren]

redlax right?

[civic island]

Basically you almost insta sync after redlax with 2 buffs

Ye

[thin wren]

at 1/5 sc Steven is definitely better but idk about 3/5

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[cloud timber]

video was 3/5

[robust meteor]

isn't only major difference for Redlax between 1 and 3/5 Adrenaline? so that extra Adrenaline is enough to make him definitively better than SC Steven?

[thin wren]

no but it helps make the matchup closer

[sacred badger]

yeah. its rrough 😭

[thin wren]

also iirc 3/5 gets better buffs

[robust meteor]

oo I misunderstood, SC Steven is probably better than Redlax for self-sufficient physical tech nukers? (like Courtney)

[civic island]

Ye but inconsistet
1/5 EXR is all you need

[thin wren]

yeh

[robust meteor]

I'm trying to understand this better... how do we know which combo of the "DC enablers" is best? are there some generaly guidelines? for example, why is Redlax + SC Steven + NC Silver better than swapping one of them out for Colress for the sync accel?

[obviously SC Steven will be better for phy DD and much less used for spec DD]

[thin wren]

mostly because stone edge animation is quick

and rock sync isn't that high

[cloud timber]

all depends on how efficient their sync nuke is vs their other attacks

[civic island]

Turn skip under sandstorm is kinda inefficient

And if you can reach one extra sync, it's worth

[plush palm]

wow that rose team is interesting

zero sync dmg

pure dps

wild