#High Score

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rough forum
night sleet
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I got same shit befor from selects

rough forum
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To be fair before 2023 I ever did only 1 select

night sleet
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I new its free gems 🤣 since 80k is max pay

rough forum
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Yeah but better specify

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I'm likely pitying on the HSE banner this month anyway

night sleet
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Hse banner is not bad

rough forum
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Unless I ransack a fast Paulo & grusha in first couple multis

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If I get both under 5 multi I stop there

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But I usually always have to pity the 1/3 I want most

night sleet
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This reruns banners most time good drop if have 2-3 in

rough forum
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In pf triples

rough forum
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Triple reruns are miles better

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Especially when you skip a lot

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The more you skip the better they become

night sleet
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Its good when you don’t have all off banner units . For me kinda not good since always have 1/2

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Its why i pref solo banner

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But if you miss all its best one yes

rough forum
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Took only 3+ years to finally get here

idle plinth
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HSE banner is nice, but ye I have other priorities

rough forum
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Anyway, really hoped for a grusha spook

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I'll cope with one of the best looking sygnas in the game ig

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Which always got postponed because I had bigger tech faves to select

idle plinth
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Literally same with me WEEZing

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And unfortunately I had to again in favor of Hilbert SophoKEK

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Will March select finally let me choose her? That remains to be seen

rough forum
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There's half anni selects?

sullen pier
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Yes there are

rough forum
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I see

sullen pier
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I believe variety selects only happen during half anni

rough forum
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Might skip selecting rn then

rough forum
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I thought Half anni had the 3k ones

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Not 5k ones

idle plinth
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Last year there's pf select on half anni

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By region

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Kanto/Johto/Hoenn
Sinnoh/Unova/Kalos
Alola/Galar/Paldea

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And yes there's also variety select a few days later

rough forum
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Oh I see

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Damn

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Then I guess I'm saving these 5k for the gen 7-8-9 select

idle plinth
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In hindsight I should actually aim for Paulo as he is never going to be on a Select SophoKEK but I'll just wait to see if the banner reaches datamine

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Unless that 4 dailies give me him

rough forum
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10-19th

idle plinth
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Oh.

rough forum
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Yeah

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I mean

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Last HSE banner showed me anything can happen

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So maybe this time you get this kind of luck

idle plinth
rough forum
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Also when was steel? October?

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Racked up 50k between then and now while scouting Eri šŸ™

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Sad I have to pass on Leon but god I hate what they did for his kit

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And Gio is a skip unless next datamine is dead

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(but since I'm weak to palentines....)

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(doubt)

neon prawn
rough forum
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Even better damn

paper mist
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Is 1/5 Selene useable? Doubt I’m getting any copies from her banner. I do have Elio but also 1/5 PrycePain (since I know she needs lots of Circles)

acoustic quarry
rough forum
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She's an enabler at 1/5

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But in HSE scenario, where there's basically no other rock special unit?

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She's pretty iffy

grand perch
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Huh she’s not that useful at 1/5?

paper mist
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These are my teams atm (though I’ve since realized I have no SpDef debuffs for Brock since Vilbert is only 1/5 too)

acoustic quarry
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the thing is, i think for this HSE ( especialy this Stage ), as long as you have V Hilbert or Selene, no matter what level ( 1/2/3/4/5 our of 5 ) ou need to use it on it

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Its kinda the situation where you feel the stage is designed for specific duos

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( not the first time, not the last time obviously, but it feel heavy in this case )

paper mist
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If I ever sync with Hilbert I think it’d be a waste to not have another ice attacker to take advantage of zone too, but HLeon doesn’t give the debuffs needed either

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Can’t give mind games either since no lucky cookies to use MortySigh

tame bridge
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is roark any decent for low str

storm vector
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depends on ur supports for him

rough forum
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He is shit period unless you have ZERO limiteds for both types

storm vector
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otherwise he would just die and he doesn't even have EX for the AOE sync

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i'd honestly go 2 rock/ice 1 hard carry (as steven, nc blue, etc)

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for a far higher str

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if you are desperate enough to use ROARK

balmy yarrow
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I’m missing both Glaceons Sina and Hilbert, are they clutch in any of the battles?

rough forum
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Hilbert definitely helps for Brock, and sina is basically made for HSE

balmy yarrow
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Ouch, why they don’t do Sprint/field select scouts? PrycePain

rough forum
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Because they're very few and mostly recent units

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Also there's been selects with those iirc? The regional ones

balmy yarrow
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Oh I’m looking at the sheet, I think I’m fine

Got:
Diantha for grusha
Champion Silver for Melony
Red for Grant
Selene for Brock
Irida for Roxanne

In the support department I see Grusha is good vs all the battles, idk where to place him.
I got every support except arven and the non master fair glaceons.

cyan tusk
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Has anyone started rolling gears for hse? I feel like this time is quite harder bc opponents use different move types (ice/rock/water), or it’s just me?

paper mist
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1 week

paper mist
cyan tusk
paper mist
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Mostly just running rock ice and the dragon/water if I can

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My luck isn’t good so I have to pick and choose who needs the gears the most

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Which will probably be Roxanne Grusha and Melony teams since they will be the ones carrying my score lol

cyan tusk
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I guess it’s better to roll ice with rock or water dmg reduction and rock with ice

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Yeah we are gonna use more ice units for sure

paper mist
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I’m gonna see how far I get with my current gears first cause I may not need to do a ton to get top 500 this time around since the roster sucks

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And I’m one of like 20 people with Variety Bruno thanks to Mix

oak fulcrum
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woah I have found a second person with variety Bruno thanks to mix

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and yet I might not be using mine because he’s stuck in 1/5 purgatory

paper mist
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4/5 MalvaReckless

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Sorry 3/5 but still

cyan tusk
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It’s 3 of us with VBruno BarryPogChamp

paper mist
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He will make up for my lack of copies on everyone else and no Sina or Falltal, surely

wooden sparrow
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actually 4 with vbruno MinaSmile

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hse making me use my mix pity on a 2/5 --> 3/5 vbruno can't believe this is my life

cyan tusk
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It could my life
Pity fall iono 2 days ago

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Guess who showed up in today’s pull next to Lucas

tidal pine
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😭

acoustic quarry
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did i heard there was a V Bruno gang ?

deft trout
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What gem packs do you guys buy? Only have 1.4k paids atm with both bundles and after doing strike and support select. I plan on doing the tech select and mix over time

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No sina and v hilbert

cyan tusk
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Best value deals are the daily bundles for orbs/coins
Followed up by mf deals

cyan tusk
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It all started from the gears momentum

rough forum
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It's the only good bundle

deft trout
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Shin Megami Liberation Dx2 is my primary mobile game that has pvp that I whale on. Anyway, should I 3/5 and cake ss n or fshauntal? I’m also 2 support coins away from a second candy and plan on 4/5ing usum elio

cyan tusk
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This Vbruno fan club is getting crowded

cyan tusk
outer whale
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I'm holdin off on powering up anyone just yet unless i know I will need them to nuke.

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USelene needed 3/5 fr fr

cyan tusk
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I should really do some planning
Saving pics of others ppl planning count as planning, right?

deft trout
sullen pier
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ThĆ­s is the most chaotic HSE up to date

haughty haven
haughty haven
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Not having V Bruno really mess some team

storm vector
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what str

haughty haven
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Grusha, Roxxane, Grant are easy 1000 Str

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Brock really anoying if he spam HydroPump so maybe not 1000Str but doable

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Melony idk bc that team lack SpA debuff

graceful pike
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where are you guys putting SS Silver in

wooden sparrow
cyan tusk
graceful pike
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same

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no select

night sleet
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Ss silver have no spot in this hse

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If it was debuff then yes

cyan tusk
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I mean he has super command on grid so he might be useful to pre sync Roxanne but still, SSN can take advantage of SEUN and has AoE nuke

night sleet
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Pre sync is nice but side will kill you

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He raise eva just for him self not like rei for team

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Just silver 1 vs 2 sides sound awful. And time waist for it like …

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If was debuff more attack and more sts raise . Then this would be game .

cyan tusk
haughty haven
wooden sparrow
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i feel like im in a reverse situation where I don't have dana

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or rather

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don't have dana invested lol

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so i'm lowkey stuck with usum duo on brock unless I want to commit grusha there

outer whale
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Imagine having grusha

cyan tusk
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I have her invested but I have to figure out if she’s more worth than variety Bruno tbh. She has SEUN yes, but also SSN which I’m planning on Roxanne. Other alternative being a rock dps on grusha but this means having a mixed team with Dana and I don’t like this lol

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Also I’m kinda tempted to separate Elio and Selene, with bp Olivia taking elio spot

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Protect, sterner stuff, AoE regen, endurance… too valuable to be skipped

wooden sparrow
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if I had to use bp olivia i'd phase out vbruno

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and i don't have the heart to admit she outclasses elio in some situations lol

cyan tusk
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Situation being called AoE stages? BarryPogChamp

haughty haven
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I think 10/5 Selene should be able to survive at 1000 Str against Brock ?

cyan tusk
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Maybe
Otherwise there’s still the bp Olivia wildcard

haughty haven
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Dmg guard should help her tank Sync

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But idk about Surf tho

cyan tusk
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there’s also a dragon guard for grant in grid

haughty haven
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I’d use Ground Guard against him

cyan tusk
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Confusion gaming
(Ofc in mixed stages the grid is different)

wooden sparrow
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vs brock is it worth it to try and run stalwart on selene

haughty haven
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+1 SpDef to tank Sync and Surf

cyan tusk
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Or just give up the tech bonus and run elio Selene and Olivia together

wooden sparrow
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yes I understand but i just about to type that I don't have the cookies for that 😭

haughty haven
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I know

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That why i plan them to presync Grusha lol

cyan tusk
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And if our lg prince doesn’t have lg cookies, we’re doomed LarryDead

haughty haven
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No cookie

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Rn the team i worry the most is against Melony lol

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Just bc no SpA debuff at all

wooden sparrow
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HSE folks: actually using cookies for good LS's on good units

me: using a billion cookies for MGR2 on eggmon

haughty haven
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80% my pairs just have Hs1

cyan tusk
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80% of my eggmons have ft2/dc//mg2

haughty haven
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But ngl, not using Dana’s SEUN really triggers

wooden sparrow
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as an LG player bronze deluxe cookies are so much more valuable than golds so I end up wasting golds and then when I actually want to try HSE/DC I get owned

haughty haven
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But she is like my only tank can tank Brock for me

cyan tusk
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We got Quagg in the dark side of the game

haughty haven
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Tbf this HSE has his boy and girl

cyan tusk
haughty haven
cyan tusk
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And grusha

haughty haven
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Grusha again

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So lucky i’m a Grusha owner

wooden sparrow
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and bp olivia!

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lol

haughty haven
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Should be able to tank Brock right ?

cyan tusk
haughty haven
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I just pray for Brock not spamming HydroPump

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Like that is his only strong move

cyan tusk
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Well she should be able to tank since +6spdef -6 spatk

haughty haven
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+45 SpDef, total like 50% Special dmg reduces

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As long as Ice Zone Up (should be always up)

onyx current
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Hilberts noxious hit gaming

cyan tusk
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There’s also irida satisfied snarl if needed

haughty haven
cyan tusk
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But she should focus on dmg

haughty haven
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I grid Hilbert as a nuker

onyx current
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Ah makes sense

haughty haven
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Rn i only hate one thing

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My Dana doesn’t have fk water guard

cyan tusk
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We don’t get type guard cookies in training area/villa?

onyx current
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Is winter coat only physical moves

haughty haven
onyx current
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Oh nice

haughty haven
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In Training? Yeah, nope

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In Villa? Idk tbh

onyx current
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Cursed Dana grid

haughty haven
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SpDef mpr is very important

paper mist
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Idk if you can farm BV like that

onyx current
haughty haven
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Also Brock debuff SpDef so Stalwart really nice

haughty haven
paper mist
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But the original 4 cookies were actually more farmable than deluxe cookies in LG

onyx current
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I see

haughty haven
onyx current
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VHilbert tm buffs ally spdef by 4

haughty haven
onyx current
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Oh he buffs spatk smh

haughty haven
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He only buffs allies SpA

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Yeah

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If he buff SpDef Aoe, that’ll be so nice

onyx current
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If you’re taking barricade buddies why do you need MPR if she has stalwart, for Allie’s?

haughty haven
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So might need to tank 2nd Sync

onyx current
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How hard is that sync supposed to hit I feel like Irida and VHilbert hit pretty hard in my experience with Nita

haughty haven
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Decent hard

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Other grid

onyx current
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I like this a lot more especially since you’re afraid of Dana survival

haughty haven
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Need mpr for +6 SpDef but you have Winter Coat now

cyan tusk
onyx current
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Hilbert buffs spatk

haughty haven
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Bc Hilberts buff Irida to +6

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But he himself stuck at +4

cyan tusk
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Oh yes

haughty haven
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But if i can survive just fine, i’ll swap to hype up for faster clear

cyan tusk
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I mean if you wanna nuke with Hilbert better be at +6

haughty haven
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Tbh, yeah, i dont grid hail anyway

cyan tusk
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Fair enough

wooden sparrow
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think something like this would be ok? or is melony better at her own stage then elio cause elio doesn't really add anything the team doesn't have (rock zone) and the sp def buffs

acoustic quarry
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something like that ?*

haughty haven
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Diantha can buff SpDef herself

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But Silver

cyan tusk
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Where’s force field in grid when needed LarryDead

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No, give it to og steven lol

wooden sparrow
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i see

acoustic quarry
haughty haven
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No, Melony’s Sync is special

cyan tusk
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Why Elio should do with red and N

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No sense tbh

acoustic quarry
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the no sense here is to think red + N need something else

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imo

onyx current
paper mist
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DawnNom
<— me who doesn’t have most pairs invested so I can’t do most of this type of planning

onyx current
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What makes Elio so bad for Roxanne?

cyan tusk
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Elio is basically not the greatest support bc he’s offensively oriented and doesn’t buff team defenses which is crucial in hse bc the teams 95% of the time have to endure a sync

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On the opposite side stuff like Summer Acerola and SSACynthia have been the greatest supports so far lol

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In past hse

haughty haven
onyx current
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I suppose but it’s not like his rock zone lasts very long

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That thing is like 2 turns LarryDead

haughty haven
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If you use him against Roxanne, you’ll not touch his B Move tbh

onyx current
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I’m mostly looking for a support for Silver

haughty haven
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||His B Move animation long about 16s-18s||

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And that’ll eat a ton of time

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Like Circle or Silver’s Sand

onyx current
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Oh I meant SsSilver oop

haughty haven
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Oh ok

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But yeah you know his problem

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His Move eats too much time

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One of the team i can suggest is Elio + SS Silver + Gladion btw

onyx current
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Ye that’s what I was thinking

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They won’t have trouble with sides?

haughty haven
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You can oneshot side first

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Roxanne uses very weak move

onyx current
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Ah swag

haughty haven
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Just remember grid Elio’s Vigi

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Giving him Rock guard

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And he should be tank against Roxanne for a while

onyx current
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I see

haughty haven
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Elio himself is like

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Very tanky

onyx current
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My elios 1/5 but I think 300-500 just fine?

haughty haven
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1/5 lacks Vigi really hurt

haughty haven
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Should be fine

wooden sparrow
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all i'm saying is that elio would've gone crazy with the passive giovanni got that redirects sync damage all to himself

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if he isn't going to buff team defenses it's perfect methinks

cyan tusk
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Watch Elio get it with grid expansion

in 7 years or something

onyx current
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lel

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Hmm I have 3/5 HoliLeon but he doesn’t seem to be that useful anywhere

haughty haven
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can the game even last until that lol

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Holiday Leon just horrible tbh

onyx current
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If I go the route of SsSilver on rox

cyan tusk
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don’t think so

haughty haven
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Just a normal 4 gauge move go brrr

onyx current
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Fire emblem is also way less popular compared to pokemon

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(Feh does out sell this game consistently tho lol)

haughty haven
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If that happens

night saddle
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Pokemon masters on the other hand...

haughty haven
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Spheal should be gotten released between those right ?

onyx current
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I think so

haughty haven
onyx current
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Premier Summer unit with a protag

haughty haven
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Ngl

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I want Spheal for Pal event lol

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Blue and Pink

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Perfect

wooden sparrow
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the mon is what matters here but what trainer tho?

haughty haven
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Brendan + May

wooden sparrow
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i'm still silently waiting for quagsire in the game and I can only imagine it with Misty (not that I particularly like Misty I just think that's the only answer dena would go with lol)

haughty haven
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V Misty and quagsire

cyan tusk
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Watch glacia get spheal and Koga get quagsire

For no apparent reason

haughty haven
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Why Koga get quagsire ?

wooden sparrow
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^

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glacia spheal is understandable!

onyx current
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The gauge is going to personally crawl out of my phone screen and kill me for the gauge on grusha

wooden sparrow
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every trainer for me that can realistically have a quagsire is w/e to me

haughty haven
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Leon on -2 gauge stage

onyx current
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Bearhaps but silver tm MGA TabithaHehe

haughty haven
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What about Gym leader or Mc

onyx current
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I got base Brock to replace Leon

haughty haven
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Ngl

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I think he is better lol

cyan tusk
haughty haven
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Idk

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But pots -> Leon

onyx current
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It’s wild that the 640 atk (no bmove) glacial lance unit sucks in Poma

cyan tusk
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I’m lucky my fav Pokemon have already been splurged in this game (metagross and lucario)

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still waiting for a decent togekiss tho

onyx current
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Leon is 2 sides of a coin high stats cannot carry a move and low stats can be carried by BP

haughty haven
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With metronome ofc

onyx current
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My favorite mon is meowstic and totodile so they were treated alright BlueYea

haughty haven
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I like Volo but god

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His play style is just gacha

onyx current
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When your most memorable trait is being the second worst pokefair of last year is not the highest bar

haughty haven
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I really wish he has Supp cake instead

onyx current
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Same

haughty haven
onyx current
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I wish Greta got a real attack move

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<- 5/5 Greta

haughty haven
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But hey, 10/5 Volo got 13/14 in LG

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Just need 10/5 to do it

onyx current
haughty haven
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Nemona got 14/14, but i like her SA tho

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Double flinch chance is funny

cyan tusk
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Where is my dynamax togekiss Dena

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Still hatin they gave arc and arc Steven a normal metagross I wanted the shiny

onyx current
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Shiny would be a whole different pokemon to his ā€œin-gameā€ metagross so I see why they didn’t

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Hmm I think these would be better but no Mc/Gym leader for Grusha

cyan tusk
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Rare CBlue user spotted

paper mist
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I have him but not using him

onyx current
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I got him from those half anni tickets last year his only use for me is an exr bot in br

paper mist
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mine is 2/5 and not caked

cyan tusk
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I have him 1/5 and can already see where the hse banner will be going while I scout for grusha LarryDead

onyx current
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lol

cyan tusk
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I wanna be a rare 10/5 grusha haver

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So I wanna scout for him

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Watch me get infinite Paulo and blue instead

paper mist
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I could use another Paulo, he's also 2/5 but I will be caking him

trim beacon
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Also when people posting teams

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Isn't hse in a few days or something

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@hollow prism

acoustic quarry
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Many did already

crimson python
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which HS should i use selene for

onyx current
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Check the doc but she seemed solid for grusha especially

crimson python
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wtf

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selene is ranked D on grusha

sullen pier
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Earthquake spam really hurts her

crimson python
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oh is that reason why

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i thought it has to do with power

onyx current
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Oh I must’ve checked wrong lol

haughty haven
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She is really good against Brock mostly bc her fast poison and circle

hollow prism
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Go spam mention someone else lolololol

outer whale
cyan tusk
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And her circle is special

paper mist
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Atticus is gonna be super good for the poison hse now that I’ve rechecked his stuff

cyan tusk
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Yes for sure

paper mist
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-Makes entire team take less damage from SE damage (which will be nice for the inevitable EQ/Bulldoze spam against poison teams)
-Raises team defenses (though sadly doesn’t max them out)
-Raises team offenses and speed for gauge management
-Inflicts aoe poison (most likely will be a bonus point)
-aoe poison rebuff
-sprint exr for faster syncs
-team damage buff under DF (as well as syncs at 5/5)
-Atk/SpAtk debuffs
-Flinching with aggravation on grid

rough forum
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His big problem is grid energy and how shortly DF stays on field

cyan tusk
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Poison/bug hse is gonna be tech+striker dominance with sshilbert/ssroxie/klara

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Eviscerating stages

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Also Variety Noland lmao

acoustic quarry
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that combo just doom me, i have so low amount of limited unit of thoose type WEEZing

cyan tusk
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Those units are only limited pairs likely lol

haughty haven
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Me who dont have H Bugsy

paper mist
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I think bug/poison makes sense followed by normal/flying

haughty haven
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My bug is awful, but i think my poison is pretty stack tho

paper mist
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rock, ice and poison making the variety E4 very useful

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though maybe less so for Agatha since there's more available supports

rough forum
paper mist
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I'm more annoyed that the atk debuffs are 5/5 locked LarryDead

rough forum
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They're also mostly ST

acoustic quarry
rough forum
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Me when next HSE turns out to be bug & grass

outer whale
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You have two options for pain.
Bug/poison
Or
Bug/flying

paper mist
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no NY Lillie I'll be cooked Hopium

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More like no Arc Alder though

outer whale
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I find bug/flying to be more miserable tbh

paper mist
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same

outer whale
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Poison at least has sauce, flying is just..... lol have fun with Falkner, falkner, falkner, and skyla

paper mist
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one of those falkners is tech

outer whale
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Close enough

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Flying supports are already down bad

oak fulcrum
paper mist
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too lazy to do it for all gen pool pairs

paper mist
cyan tusk
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Anni Steven moment

outer whale
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Anistaken

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say that out loud for the joke

paper mist
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with Normal, you get Cheryl, Lodge Wally, Leaf, Cheren PrycePain , Classic Gio, Red, Lenora, PalVictor, Elaine and Anabel

tidal pine
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yea, Flying would combine pretty poorly with another type with support issues

paper mist
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Normal has the most Supports out of all the 4 types left

tidal pine
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Normal supports somewhat workable ig

paper mist
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they just need damage dealers

cyan tusk
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Normal are good

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Flying is just variety falkner

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The rest is kinda iffy

outer whale
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All i know is that if we don"t get a seasonal select this half anni with HBugsy, i'm cooked for Bug HSE.

tidal pine
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yea, Flying kinda needs something new, I think

paper mist
#

cause you got Palmer, Larry, Holiday Whitney, Hugh, Maybun and Gladion and thats it

haughty haven
#

Me too

#

No H Bugsy

outer whale
#

šŸ¤

paper mist
#

SC Steven for sync ig but he's more utility than anything else

haughty haven
#

But my normal is good tho

#

I have all of them

paper mist
#

I'm missing PalVictor

outer whale
#

The best case scenario would be Normal/flying and Bug/poison

paper mist
#

correct

haughty haven
#

My only 1/5 Normal is ||Lenora||

paper mist
#

bug/poison also runs the chance of Burgh with Poison-weak Leavanny and someone with Cutiefly or whatever it's called

outer whale
#

Also, i forgot wormadam is bug

#

Damn thing looks like a grass support

paper mist
#

oh and Grass-cloak Wormadam

#

you get less poison-weak options with Flying (togetic/kiss) or Normal (uhh......Jigglypuff and Sawsbuck?)

#

Flying you get bug/flying types and Normal you actually consider using Gladion and Maybun

outer whale
#

Normal/flying allows you to take advantage of Bug/flying mons, while poison/bug l can take care of uhhhh šŸ¤”

paper mist
#

Grass/Bug, Bug/Fairy

outer whale
#

Grass/bug is very specific. Same with bug/fairy

paper mist
#

Burgh tho

cyan tusk
outer whale
#

Burgh, bugsy

haughty haven
#

And she hates me

outer whale
#

Wait no...

#

Ugh

cyan tusk
#

I hate burgh he spawned 4 times on the way to the pity for Giovanni

#

Can’r stand him anymore

paper mist
#

Leavanny, Parasect, Wormadam (Plant Cloak), Ribombee, also stuff like Orbeetle against itself for Bug

haughty haven
#

Ah yes, dodge tank

cyan tusk
#

Also flying poison could be an idea

paper mist
#

eh

outer whale
#

Flying poison sounds miserable

#

Supports where?

haughty haven
#

Wow Flying Supp is miserable lol

paper mist
#

you guys don't have 5/5 Lysandre? NW_pathetic

outer whale
#

Unironically Normal is the best option for supports now

paper mist
#

yeah

haughty haven
#

3 limited, Proton, V Falkner and H Rosa

outer whale
#

Do we even qualify Hrosa as a support lmao

paper mist
#

they need damage dealers which would be alright with Flying having stuff like Cheren and SLiza

outer whale
#

Genuinely speaking

haughty haven
paper mist
#

she can buff defenses
sometimes
if you get lucky with her TM

haughty haven
outer whale
#

Summer Liz is the only reliable physical flying damage dealer that doesn't need a two turn move

haughty haven
#

Anni Steven

paper mist
#

was gonna ask if you forgot Cheren lol

haughty haven
#

Dw, 5/5 will save him

#

Right?

outer whale
#

I meant physical my b

#

I mean..... we also have....

#

Lmao

#

No

paper mist
#

Dragon

tidal pine
#

there's Lodge Skyla?

paper mist
#

unusable in Flying HSE

outer whale
#

Oh trus

tidal pine
#

and uhhhhh... yea

haughty haven
#

Kahili EX

outer whale
#

DC Hugh stonks incoming

paper mist
#

Ethan will also get 5/5 in time for Flying HSE trust

haughty haven
#

I only miss like 2 flying pairs ?

paper mist
#

but yeah IMO best case scenario is Bug+Poison and Normal+Flying

tidal pine
#

I miss about 3 meanwhile

#

and 2 of them are supports (Proton and Variety Falkner)

haughty haven
#

Yeah, i miss H Rosa and NY Lance

paper mist
#

we might get a variety select at Half Anni again

tidal pine
#

although I might pick Valkner from the next Variety Select

paper mist
#

we got one last year

#

I think

tidal pine
#

yep

outer whale
#

I don't even want to use NY lance

tidal pine
paper mist
#

you dont wanna hyper beam go brrr?

haughty haven
#

You dont want to sac your HP ?

outer whale
#

Counterpoint, Bounce DPS

paper mist
#

mine's 1/5 so I wouldn't use him anyway

outer whale
#

Same

paper mist
outer whale
#

Unironically Guzma would be amazing for HSE

haughty haven
#

Still better than base lance

#

Not count grid ofc

paper mist
#

unless you mean base

haughty haven
#

Well

#

He can be your dodge tank

outer whale
#

I mean base

#

Pin missle PMUN gambling WeezingLFG

haughty haven
#

So fun that Guzma comes from meme pair into strongest f2p bug

paper mist
#

of course, we still have arc alder on the way too

haughty haven
#

Ew Arc

paper mist
#

he could be a support like steven, or a field setter

outer whale
#

Field unit

#

100%

paper mist
#

base Alder also lacks EXR atm

outer whale
#

His superawakening is hinting he'd be a field EXR

haughty haven
#

He’ll get Sprint

#

bc Adrenaline 2

paper mist
#

Tech, of course

outer whale
#

Inb4 striker support

cyan tusk
#

The forever sitting in the bench

cyan tusk
haughty haven
#

Cant wait for Flying HsE and see Dabbo bring his 5/5 Anni Steven

cyan tusk
outer whale
#

Listen, it's year of the snake. Surely he will get a good EXR, and 4/5 and 5/5 grid tiles that buff his sync move. Hopium

cyan tusk
#

Well it might be the case I candy mine to 5/5
just need the excuse always wanted to do it

outer whale
#

Unironically. WATCH ONE OF THE HSE BATTLES FOR FLYING NEED YOU TO CHANGE WEATHER.

cyan tusk
#

He needs to be reworks I don’t think 2 sync tiles can save him unless it’s like +200 atk lol

#

Winona now’s your chance

#

Rain + 60 flinch lmao

outer whale
#

Winona gaming or anni steven lmao

storm vector
#

was anni steven good on release

paper mist
storm vector
#

or was he always considered bad

outer whale
paper mist
#

not really, no

tidal pine
#

I suppose he was the best Flying option on release

#

but tbf Flying kinda had some awkard choices at the time

outer whale
#

NC cheren and SS Ethan carrying flying damage dealers on their back while Anni Steven on the lounge chair celebrating year of the snake with no buffs to his name.

tidal pine
#

Blue wants to sync first, Nate is just... Nate, NY Lance has barely self set-up and Lysandre is not that great for damage option

storm vector
tidal pine
#

I honestly do feel Flying still needs something

#

but more in the Hybrid front

outer whale
#

Flying needs a more competent tank

tidal pine
#

at least it's doing much better than one year ago I suppose

outer whale
#

Skyla and VFalkner are the only flying tanks i can rely on and even then, they can only do so much

#

Proton is ok but he feels like a lodge pair in terms of tanking

tidal pine
#

maybe that NC Hoenn Mega Salamence pair could be the thing Flying needs

haughty haven
outer whale
#

Yoooo can't wait for that less than 10% dodge

haughty haven
#

But idk, he is quite nice tho

outer whale
#

He is, but maybe it's because i haven't exed him yet lmao

haughty haven
#

SpDef buffer, Agg1, confusion lol

outer whale
#

Anywho. I'm stacked for Normal and Poison ig, but flying and bug is going to be miserable regardless if you have a stacked roster or not.

tidal pine
#

Normal is one I could do well paired with a good damage type

#

Poison I have recently gotten some good summons (as long it's paired with a good support type)

haughty haven
#

Bug is the one i’ll dead

outer whale
#

I even have ss hilbert 5/5, and i still feel like i'm going to suffer

#

Dude cannot take a hit

haughty haven
#

Smh no supp limited

#

Like the only type i dont have any limited supp

outer whale
#

Although...... ss hilbert could be a godsend in HSE if one of the main mons are weak to fire, water, elec or Ice

#

Which..... is possible actually

#

Bug weak to fire, and flying weak to elec and ice

cyan tusk
paper mist
#

many bugs are flying type as well so elec/ice weak chances are high

cyan tusk
haughty haven
#

Huh ? Is V Noland that rare ?

tidal pine
#

I do have him 2/5 here

paper mist
#

same

cyan tusk
#

If SAHilbert can be paired with a speed debuffer (whatever is the secondary type they pair him with) he’s gonna erase any 1000 str

cyan tusk
#

Mine is 1/5 tho

haughty haven
#

I got him to 3/5 by mix lol

paper mist
#

variety noland has attack debuffs but his TM lowers his defenses and he's already frail

outer whale
#

Vnoland 3/5 pairs immensely well with SS Hilbert because of aoe Speed debuffs

cyan tusk
outer whale
#

the problem is you kinda need H Bugsy for Support.

haughty haven
#

Yeah

cyan tusk
#

Best partner for sshilbert is 3/5 Hviola but it’s too overkill

haughty haven
#

I’ll be top 1000 when bug HSE happen

outer whale
#

nah, Hviola is worse imo

cyan tusk
#

Sshilbert doesn’t need bug zone to 1K lol

outer whale
#

Hviola takes up way too much time with stun spore when you need bug zone and the debuffing is very slow comparatively to Vnoland's sync ramping

cyan tusk
#

But Noland will be needed as a primary dmg dealer elsewhere imo

#

If it’s hypothetically bug/poison you wanna pair sshilbert with a trash debuffer like Janine lol

outer whale
#

if bug/poison, janine would be better yea

#

but you would also need a faster poison setter

haughty haven
#

I want Normal + bug tho

#

Bc i dont have limited supp bug lol

tidal pine
#

meanwhile my only limited supp bug is NY Lillie LilliePout

#

which is a seasonal unit from 4 years ago

paper mist
cyan tusk
#

Im a proud variety guzma owner

#

1/5 no ex lmao

paper mist
#

same

#

4/5 now thanks to mix but no cake

haughty haven
#

Where is V Plumeria owner ?

oak fulcrum
#

I mix pitied her 😭

paper mist
#

hi

cyan tusk
haughty haven
#

Not you, you max Villain anyway

cyan tusk
#

Never ever used her

outer whale
#

I'm a proud VNoland owner lmao

cyan tusk
#

Worst than dc pairs

oak fulcrum
paper mist
haughty haven
#

I still think her B Move is trash lol

paper mist
#

it is

haughty haven
#

I dont even remember what it does, just remember it is really trash

paper mist
#

she buffs party evasion so mayyyyybe useful?

paper mist
haughty haven
#

Leaves the target confused. Lowers the target’s accuracy by 1 stat rank. Applies the Move Gauge Acceleration effect to the allied field of play. Reduces the user’s sync move countdown by 1.

#

Yeah trash lol

paper mist
#

I never said she was good lol

tidal pine
#

VNoland is one pair I do want to invest more, but never got the time for it

outer whale
#

same

#

right now, i'm still debating on what to buff for this HSE.

#

Like i have sina ready to 3/5 but also.... GretaCringe

#

I kinda don't know if i need it?

haughty haven
#

Yeah just wait

#

And steal

outer whale
#

her B move is already cracked

tidal pine
#

oh yea, he's another one

haughty haven
#

He is really good but he’ll stuck at 1/5 until random mix or Psychic HSE lol

tidal pine
#

but I have plans to invest in AveryPointAndLaugh more this year

cyan tusk
#

Mine has always been grusha and somehow Paulo

#

That’s why I’m waiting the triple rerun banner

haughty haven
#

That also makes me really one thing

#

Reddit voted him as the worst PF in 2024

outer whale
#

wait avery???

haughty haven
#

Yeah

outer whale
#

my Trainer in Pasio, GRETA AND MILO ARE RIGHT THERE.

cyan tusk
#

Milo is way better than you can think of tbh

outer whale
#

i ain't 10/5ing him

cyan tusk
#

Neither I am but he is a support that debuffs speed which is really really rare today

#

And his tm gives SEUN

#

B move sorry

tidal pine
haughty haven
#

For me, Volo might be the worst lol

#

His kit just fighting each other

outer whale
#

Nahhhh Volo isn't bad at all

tidal pine
#

Yea, I do know Avery had some teammates problems when he was released

cyan tusk
#

I don’t even remember which pfs came out in 2024

outer whale
#

as someone who has him 2/5, he's really fun to use and has some sauce

cyan tusk
#

Which is…. Last year
Already PrycePain

outer whale
#

i'd honestly put arven under Volo. and I like Arven too

haughty haven
tidal pine
#

Iono, Grusha, Chase, Dahlia, Volo, Jacq, Rika, Poppy, Larry, Kabu, Klara, Avery, Greta, Ultra Elio, Ultra Selene, Arven, Giacomo, Clavell, SS Ingo, SS Submas, Eri, Dexio, Sina and Milo

haughty haven
#

As much i love Volo and funny Metronome

tidal pine
#

yea, I listed them all because I'm sorta bored today šŸ™ƒ

haughty haven
#

His kit just so sad

#

And the cake too

#

I wish he had Supp instead of Tech

outer whale
#

Volo should have been support EXR

tidal pine
#

True

outer whale
#

that's the one thing i do admit

cyan tusk
tidal pine
#

it's one of those few pairs I definitely feel he wanted another EXR

cyan tusk
#

Giacomo doesn’t add anything NcMarnie wasn’t able to do before
Even Brycen man is more useful
Also 5/5 haymaker ew

outer whale
#

Uelio isn't bad he just needs 4/5 lmao

#

and giacomo.... nah, that's a hot take.

cyan tusk
cyan tusk
outer whale
#

that is true.

#

Uelio is very selfish on buffing himself but he at least provides healing *

cyan tusk
#

And also Giacomo is great dps ok but it’s 2025 you need to do something else

#

And he’s slow af

#

I hate slow units

outer whale
#

giacomo gives me Guzma First impression energy

haughty haven
#

Mb, Avery wasn’t the worst. He is the 2nd worst by Reddit

outer whale
#

imagine saying Volo's B METRONOME BEING TOO RANDOM as a negative

#

It's Metronome

haughty haven
#

If only he has passive make the field last longer tho

#

It’ll be so good

#

Field from his B Move

cyan tusk
#

Kabu and grusha saved with SA imo

haughty haven
#

Funny that Grusha is the best supp in this HSE

#

Just bc how shit Ice/Rock supp are

outer whale
#

^^^

#

I COULD get Grusha through the select...... but also, ew.

#

1/5 Grusha ain't doing much

haughty haven
#

Imagine your Def/SpDef buffing is attached to IceZone

#

That why i love Gladion + Grusha combo too much lol

glossy ravine
#

The dude is progressive UB god and a gauntlet 14 unit and he's in contention

tidal pine
#

looking at the days ago, it seems to be held around 5th anni date

#

which was the datamine that added EXR Lear

neon prawn
neon prawn
#

his kit might be worse than greta's

hollow prism
#

No

rough forum
#

Greta is just a sleeper with GT

paper mist
#

offensive debuffs, defensive debuffs, sometimes speed/accuracy/evasion debuffs, zones, defensive circle, ally sync damage up, pmum and smun for team, confusion, he can function as a tank

#

greta can... guarantee 3 hits on bullet seed at 5/5

neon prawn
#

fair but he's not beating Avery

acoustic quarry
#

Selene 3/5 and Elio 2/5 in one pity
Not that bad

idle plinth
#

I had an epiphany

#

I've been vocal about my wish for below:

Arc Alder/Volcarona
MF with Slither Wing/Iron Moth

#

What if March is Poison/Bug HSE with exactly those three

tiny ore
#

slither is so much cooler than moth

idle plinth
#

I like both but also agree

tiny ore
#

why are the past ones better almost across the board

idle plinth
#

Creativity

#

I say as a Violet player

haughty haven
#

Better name too

#

Smh Iron + X

tiny ore
#

i aint a huge fan of Sandy Shocks amd brute bonnet but

#

the other ones go hard

#

iron valiant is the only future one whose design i like

#

Gameplay wise... fuck no this thing is way too overtuned

idle plinth
#

I like Miraidon more than Koraidon, but the Scarlet Paradox are better in quality

tiny ore
#

same

cyan tusk
#

Have to learn the English names, I have the Italian ones and they are trash lol

#

I usually call them
Past volcarona - future volcarona lol

rough forum
#

But

#

I was recently showed moth's attack animation

#

And it's now not absolute shit

#

I feel like

#

Past paradoxes are mostly incredible visually and style wise

#

BUT

#

The future paradoxes have very very cool animations

acoustic quarry
paper mist
#

No Selene or Elio copies EusineWhy

outer whale
#

Guys.....

What if we get a type rerun after this HSE PrycePain

acoustic quarry
#

I would be happy :>

sullen pier
#

Dark/Ghost rerun soon yay

haughty haven
paper mist
#

I think we will after the final 4 are run, in July

#

I want Fire/Grass because it'd be funny

haughty haven
paper mist
#

SSGGio will be really good when Dark reruns

#

and, uh, the dark arc suit soon

rough forum
oak fulcrum
#

3/5’d my Sina since I picked up a second gold candy, so that’s all my candies for this HSE done

cyan tusk
#

I’m still figuring out where to put her, I think imma go try all the stages to assemble final teams as always

#

ofc I’ve already rolled gears and they’ll be useless in the end trust me

oak fulcrum
#

yeah I 3/5d because I wanted that full kit, I very temporarily slotted her on the Roxanne presync but if I need to change that it’s okay

#

I’ve only built up my bracelets and bandannas since I find those easier to roll good stats on than pins, but I’m not prioritizing passives at all

paper mist
#

I might wind up hitting Mix pity before the HSE starts and I’d rather see if I can get a good head start before I see if I need to grab Sina or Falltal LarryDead

#

There’s also SSN but I assume he’s not great at 1/5 either (I actually have Vilbert but 1/5 too)

signal needle
#

They can also do Dark Poison for villains HSE

hollow prism
#

That’s the easiest Single support candy use ever

paper mist
#

I don’t use her tho

#

She’s there for extra pairs in LG lol

#

Or certain missions

#

Oh yeah she’s 1/5 the image means mix pity would bring her to 2/5

cyan tusk
#

Select pokefair sprint or field are nowhere to be seen lol

acoustic quarry
graceful pike
#

no

#

absolutely not

#

that typing combo has

#

horrible supports

#

back then

#

but now i guess you could say

Atticus
SS Gio Alt
Arven
Ball Guy
F.Cait
C.Calem
Event Oak (Legit)

#

but yeah the dark ghost hse still gave me ptsd

paper mist
#

Guzma is Bug

signal needle
#

L

signal needle
graceful pike
#

so true

signal needle
#

You can tank with Viola i guess

graceful pike
#

NO

signal needle
graceful pike
#

wait til arc alder comes

#

on feb

#

then on march

#

surprise surprise

#

bug and something hse

#

i'm guessing bug grass

signal needle
#

He hyper beam and struggle bug in his OG, he gonna be Strike or Tech

#

Iris Dark arc will drop for the Dark-Poison HSE and she will be the first Multi-Sprint with UB Noland like Sync CD passive SophoKEK

graceful pike
#

iris dark

#

eh

#

isn't that a bit too predictable?

#

it could just be Arc N and zoroak

#

and then we saved Arc Red/Ash for Pikachu

#

they know both Zoroak and Pikachu are money printing machines

and also Red + N

graceful pike
#

Just IMAGINEEEEEEEEEEE

#

there is no way they are giving him something more interesting like Bug Buzz though

night sleet
#

Arc Adler can be sup

graceful pike
#

then again, Cynthia DID get Sand Tomb instead of Slash

#

so who knows

night sleet
#

We have now all offensive arc units

#

So now more look like sup time

graceful pike
#

arc sprint

#

who knows

#

that'd be so funny

night sleet
#

Can be too

#

Arc should get sprint or field too

rough forum
#

Field means kinda worse damage scaling early on because no supp ex if he's a tank tho, would be cool if he had zone set on sync as multi passive + supp instead imo

night sleet
#

Pref bug sup this sure need some goat unit

#

Yeap whit zone for ally extend

#

Like tm super up next sync up next for ally give

static oar
#

promoted DC Gladion to 3/5 today

should more or less be set for HSE!

grand perch
#

Can’t even imagine an Arc Field lol

Like what would it do

night sleet
#

Give rebuff set zone itc

oak fulcrum
#

Arc field just takes you to the land of many multipliers

cyan tusk
#

I don’t see arc getting sprint or field. Rather getting passives like tapus or adrenaline3 lol

signal needle
#

Ice Arc field or Grass Arc field wud be fitting

#

Basically Variety Marnie and others except yoh have double rebuff too

#

Or maybe the Arc Field unit will be the first one that can set WTZ permanently

#

Arc Field Arceus - change to type weakness of opponent and then set zone accordingly

night sleet
#

Arceus in main games is bad legend nothing special

#

Not expect it will change

signal needle
#

Just give it zone and nothing else

#

It can Body Slam

#

Cus DC usage

#

B-Judgment 1 time move that deal 999999 damage

#

Actually that wud be cheating on all 17 dcs for beginners, so good

hollow cove
oak fulcrum
#

oh boy that sure is a sentence if I've ever read one

tiny ore
#

sunkern op plz nerf

paper mist
#

but then again at Half Anni last year they did regional PF ones but idr if Rei and Akari were in it

#

so Falltal could be more useful to grab since Seasonals run less often than PFs/Selects

#

Rei was in the Regional one so if they do it again Sina will be too

#

it was only Paulo who was left out

#

I'll just hold off on selecting someone til after the first day

graceful pike
graceful pike
#

and also...

#

it may look like i'm trying to make SS N work but i just wanna see how useful he is in most people's eyes

graceful pike
sullen pier
#

something something Staggering 5

#

just flinch ā„¢ļø

graceful pike
#

eh

#

i suppose so

cyan tusk
#

With proper flinch chain you should be able to make it work even with water weakness

#

Even if he dies at the sync it’s possible that Omastar is already in range of being killed right after lol

paper mist
#

Was checking the QRTs on the hse announcement and man jp players really hate grant for some reason

cyan tusk
#

…don’t they have like SSdiantha?SophoKEK

paper mist
#

The character

#

They don’t know the details of the hse yet

haughty haven
#

Oh right

#

They dont like datamine

#

Or leak

paper mist
#

They keep calling him a cockroach and other stuff GretaCringe

haughty haven
#

As they say

paper mist
#

Idk about the BBS site I haven’t checked it in like 2 months

cyan tusk
#

Poor grant

haughty haven
#

Cant wait until they see the rule

#

And maybe they’ll love Grant lol

acoustic quarry
#

How can they " not have " datamine ?

#

Oh my mind readed have, not like

#

-.-

onyx current
haughty haven
#

Although my šŸ‡ÆšŸ‡µ friends dont mind it, most dont like it

acoustic quarry
#

Hum

#

I think that most of them look at it even if they don't like it, its just there, why would you not look at it i mean šŸ˜„

haughty haven
#

Idt they use Discord or Reddit that much tho

acoustic quarry
#

Oh if they don't, they use other stuff, like " do youu " instead of youtube for china as an exemple

#

stuff like that

haughty haven
#

But anyway yeah

#

Most dont know what stages even have

#

And datamine not as big and important like us here

storm vector
#

they will figure stuff out too soon in due time

haughty haven
#

That why although we know LG rotation already, Naomi’ll not update it until it get released

storm vector
#

hell in past HSE it was the japanese players who scored the highest

#

though that's probably more luck on their end since comps are all thesame

main pulsar
#

It’s a spoiler

#

Some of them anyway

grand perch
acoustic quarry
#

Yy ofc but then its kinda like everyone in the world not especially jp people right

#

Is what i meant šŸ˜„

topaz sleet
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i just realized time trial and more attacks are both bonuses šŸ’€ seems counterintuitive

storm vector
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time trial is a staple at this point

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it has been a thing for like 5 hse's in a row now

night sleet
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Dena put this so we cant hit cap like water fairy.

night saddle
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Is there any point in investing into dc Nemona if I have ss Diantha?

night sleet
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Nemona is not tech so realy no point . Like she not need . But she have flinch like kukui. Depend on rooster. Some may need some not

night saddle
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My limited pairs are 3/5 Irida, SS Diantha, NC Red, Paulo, 2/5 NC Silver, and 1/5 SS N and V Hilbert. Not amazing options outside of a couple stages

night sleet
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Then not think you need it. Since you most need supports

cyan tusk
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Like dc gladion is also better for this hse, he raises defenses and has potions and debuffs plus triple axel is 3 hits for number of attacks

night saddle
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True, she's otherwise just pretty low priority as far as leveling up dc pairs (I have three other pairs I'd rather 3/5 first) and I currently have the tickets to 3/5 one pair. If she were to be useful for this hse I'd definitely prioritize her

outer whale
paper mist
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why can't they ever launch these on days I'm off, like tomorrow

jagged eagle
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i'm more excited to the HSE triple banner instead of the HSE itself SophoKEK

neon prawn
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2 resets left

graceful pike
# graceful pike
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Alt Elio + Alt Selene + ??? for Brock

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5

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6

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1

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Kukui - Flinch, Rock & Alola Theme Skill + Circle Buff

graceful pike
# graceful pike
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Melony + NC Silver + ??? on Melony

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4

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1

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SS N for Team Fast Track 9, Offensive Debuff vs Sync

paper mist
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Miscalculated, mix pity won’t be hit til like Sunday

outer whale
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I have a good feeling that NC Silver and SS Diantha on the same team could just be overkill on an event that really wants you to spread out your roster

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I still gotta roll feathers LarryDead

cyan tusk
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Another option could be SSdiantha +nc silver + paulo as a support tbh

And try to pre sync

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I’ll give it a try

outer whale
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Paulo would die almost immediately unless he can get his B move out.

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He's psuedo tanky post EXR, but tanking a 1000 str attack would definitely make him want potions before B moving

cyan tusk
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Sync acc + Max guard + good gears + praying for a tm instead of a damage move would be enough TabithaHehe

haughty haven
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How many Silver’s Tm ? Yes

cyan tusk
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How much dmg reduction under rock zone you want?

Yes

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But still SSdiantha + NcSilver + Paulo lacks gym leader/main character theme skill LarryDead

night sleet
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You need sup like bruno

outer whale
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Variety select when

night sleet
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Mix select

cyan tusk
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We have had variety select before

Sprintfield pf select when lol