High Score

[haughty haven]

So his Sync is garbage too

[haughty haven]

So that i always has problem to clear sidemon with him

[tiny ore]

if youre curious

she can clear sides just fine yeah

3 syncs on that team... my ss bren is exr

[haughty haven]

Yeah. i might lower Str

Higher str makes Side mon too bulky

[tiny ore]

she doesnt struggle much there

[haughty haven]

I might use Lisia

I'll try different stats

ty for sharing team

[outer whale]

Just Caked Zerena, Foxanne, and SS Brendan

[haughty haven]

My Brendan already caked

and 5/5 too

So Lisia can focus on get more hit

[tiny ore]

5/5 has spatk debuffs apparently

[haughty haven]

I know

[tiny ore]

i got 1 flinch on that run

[haughty haven]

That why maybe Lisia can help me solve hit problem at low Str

[tiny ore]

the flinch doesnt happen often but its useful when it does

[outer whale]

Welp. My cakes are done, only have 10 voucher left solely for SS Lear

These are the only units that do not have a cake

Ciris not having her cake could be kinda yikes

[shy flower]

Holdong out on some of the best units smh my head

Think of how useful Ryuki could be with whatever cake he gets

[outer whale]

doesn't he already have his cake?

it's support no?

[shy flower]

Idr

[haughty haven]

Lovely opening

[shy flower]

Strike apparently

[outer whale]

OH it's STRIKE

hmm

[shy flower]

Probably still not really useful though

DD 9 isn't exactly a good multiplier in this except against exactly Leon and then you don't need his cake

[cunning shore]

Is there hope vs this unfair mf

Zerena Feels so weak because of this stage

[frosty glacier]

Here's my first pass at teams, looking at the grading doc in particular. Any suggestions for improvement? I don't have Rika, NY Clair, sc Lyra, vlance, NC nate, dragapult, vgio

[haughty haven]

Yeah, i got better score at lower str

Still not enough pots

[frosty glacier]

Whats your ss Leon team? I have your zinnia team matched against ss Leon at this time

[cunning shore]

My current team has Arc Lance Raihan and NYClair
The previous one (95k)
Was Nyclair lucas Arc lance

I feel you use your arc lance team on ssleon but on lower Str

[frosty glacier]

Ok so just switch those teams? I don't have raihan either

[cunning shore]

Just switch the teams, Zinnia is very difficult anyway and you will be forced to 500-600 it and you will lose your mind doing it

For Leon i think you can handle 600-700 str

I think you clear 609 easy

600*

[haughty haven]

why 609

[cunning shore]

My finger slip

[frosty glacier]

Awesome thanks Jo!

[cunning shore]

Thank me after the results

[icy burrow]

Hey @cunning shore

Long time

How's your score?

[cunning shore]

Hello my friend

[haughty haven]

Jo, help me reach 500k

[cunning shore]

My score is not bad at all this time around
With my super lack of supports

[icy burrow]

What mons you used?

Mind sharing?

[cunning shore]

You should give me your roster

[cunning shore]

Ye one moment

[icy burrow]

I'll give you mine

Haha

[cunning shore]

He has a better roster than mineeee

[haughty haven]

I dont have Arc Lance smh

[cunning shore]

Ah

[haughty haven]

[cunning shore]

You planning to get

Or

No?

[haughty haven]

Yolo

[cunning shore]

Hmmm he'll push your score a lot

[haughty haven]

Not a bit

My Leon's score is the worst rn funny enough

[cunning shore]

I think my scores are close to yours

[cunning shore]

Oooh i can push Nita

Noice

I am screwed by Zinnia so hard lol

[haughty haven]

yeah, mine has 2 1/5 so you can push way higher

Zinnia is a demon anyway

Mix attacker with 2 different type

With the nuke button

[severe pollen]

Does Lisia do anything on the SS Leon team?

[haughty haven]

Yes, Tech and hit counter

[severe pollen]

Also lol at SS Leon vs. himself

[cunning shore]

Would Rika or Ingo be better for my score? just curious

[haughty haven]

Rika need at least 3/5 tho

[cunning shore]

Yeah can't candy any unit rn

Well
Can't candy any supports rn

[haughty haven]

1/5 Ingo at least better than Hapu

[cunning shore]

First time in my life i have all other candies but not support

Always opposite

Does he get potion mpr 1/5?

[haughty haven]

no

[cunning shore]

Then not better

[haughty haven]

He has 2 pots, supp EX and way tankier than Hapu

He ofc also can mud slap Maxie

[cunning shore]

Tsk

Ill try to see if better comps come up

Or if i can just swap teams around

Again

[haughty haven]

But tbh

SC Lyra should be your best here

More Ground Rebuff, mini pots and mud slap to face too

[cunning shore]

Uhhh

I don't even know what she does

Teehee

[haughty haven]

Rika can works at 1/5 tho

Random debuff go

[haughty haven]

Then open Pomatool

[cunning shore]

Already doing so lol

[haughty haven]

I'll take a break of this mode

It drains too much of my sanity

haha

[haughty haven]

Well she can uhh + 6 Def with 2 tm

-1 Ground Rebuff

[elfin ginkgo]

[haughty haven]

Mini potions

Can get type resistant

[cunning shore]

Yeah she's the greatest in my eyes rn

[haughty haven]

Which is fire against Maxie

[cunning shore]

But she'll need to be tanking

[haughty haven]

Yeah

Bertha better bc she can heal herself

[cunning shore]

And i think Bertha really good because w heals

Yes

[haughty haven]

GH and Soothing Sand

[cunning shore]

But that can help me change my cycle too

Oh wait

Nvm

[frosty glacier]

why does DC Wally have a C+ againt Zinnia but A- against SS LEon?

[cunning shore]

Ill need the sp.def buffs

[haughty haven]

Zinnia hate Physical

But that also ranked before DC happen

So it just in theory before

[cunning shore]

Because Zinnia kills everything regardless of how you debuff her

[haughty haven]

Bertha can tho

Tm mpr

[frosty glacier]

so better use to use Lucas against SS Leon and DC Wally against Zinnia or flip?

[cunning shore]

Yeah, i was saying Lyra tm will make me not use Bertha TM but then i said nvm because i need sp.def

[haughty haven]

You only use Lucas if you have Clair

[cunning shore]

If he pre-syncs Leon, he can use lucas

[haughty haven]

And most of the time we drop Lucas smh

[cunning shore]

Well pre-syncs mid

To be exact

[frosty glacier]

So if I don't have Clair don't use Lucas anywhere?

[haughty haven]

You still can

[cunning shore]

Depends on your str

[haughty haven]

but must pre sync

The why at higher str he disapear

[frosty glacier]

Well I have as Lance. So hopefully I can presync?

[cunning shore]

As long as you clear Mid before sync/max move

You're good

[haughty haven]

If you dont ? Say gb to your lovely tank

Imagine Dragon Zone Max Move + Sync from Leon

not just Leon, the whole team is disapeared

[bold pond]

Can someone help me build teams?

[cunning shore]

I am thankful his max move is single target

[haughty haven]

Now i'm only waiting for random Arc Lance

[cunning shore]

Are your move levels correct?

[haughty haven]

with him i'm surely hit 500k without deal dmg to my brain

[bold pond]

Yes they should be I have candy though if needed

[cunning shore]

Yes, 3/5 Lance is too good. I think he's just too broken

[cunning shore]

I was just asking because sometimes people forget to put move levels

[haughty haven]

Sadly mine will be 1/5

[cunning shore]

[haughty haven]

if i got him

Any way, good luck with your climbing

[cunning shore]

I need more luck
In many different ways

[haughty haven]

I'll climb back when i feel i need to, time to enjoy other games

[cunning shore]

Good idea

[cunning shore]

Your target is 200k?

[bold pond]

Yeah I just want the minimum rewards

[haughty haven]

With Arc Lance and Arc Cynthia

You should have easy time to hit it

Even at 1/5 they are still broken when compared to most pairs

[bold pond]

Oh that's good, I'm just struggling building teams and sorting my pairs out.

[haughty haven]

You'll want using Cynthia against Maxie

You can use her against N tho

But the means you need other sand against Maxie

[tiny ore]

yay congrats on the ss leon win

[haughty haven]

Ty, the more hit and Tech really helped

but the heals still a problem

[tiny ore]

yep rip

[soft lodge]

is top 100 realistic to try and push for with this roster or should I just chill and coast into top 500? str levels 450 400 350 530 1000 for now

can push the zinnia clear a fair but if I EX(R?) ryuki but don't want to burn resources if it doesn't matter

[cunning shore]

Set your core and build around them

Arc Cynthia -> Maxie

Foxxane -> Nita

Zerena -> Zinnia

Arc Lance -> Leon

Courtney -> N

You can then start arranging what each of them needs

Zinnia is the most difficult

You might struggle even if you exr

[bold pond]

I need around 180 strength right?

Per battle

[haughty haven]

Idk if you can swap anyone

[cunning shore]

I think 200-300ish?
I actually don't remember

[haughty haven]

180 should be a good stopping point

aim for higher HP and time

Hit if you can too

[gentle bluff]

Anyways I can score higher?

[soft lodge]

fair, I'm missing a lot of good dragon pairs so I'm chill parking it there unless I daily cynthia (skipping lance) but shell trap into lisia TM makes the dragon ascent comfy to deal with

[cunning shore]

Hmmm
Try pushing up and see how you fair vs the damage

[west pier]

I'm stuck on Zinnia

[bold pond]

So would it be a good idea to put Lucas with zygarde to help battle zinnia?

[haughty haven]

As expected

Zinnia is the hardest stage for me in this HSE

[west pier]

Yeah all my good units are gone she's my last stage

[cunning shore]

Lucas is only to be used in stages you can clear before being nuked (or ground stages)

[haughty haven]

ngl, your team planning rn might be the best

[atomic rain]

I LOVE HSE

[haughty haven]

[atomic rain]

HOW THE FUCK DID I GET A 10% BURN AND A 5% BURN

[west pier]

Yeahhhh ok ill keep trying haha

[haughty haven]

try lower str

Let Lisia tank

[bold pond]

Thanks for the help I'll see what I can put together

[gentle bluff]

can anyone take a look and see how i can improve? thanks

[haughty haven]

You can use Clay instead of Skyla against Nita

Try at lower str to kill quickly

[gentle bluff]

okay

[haughty haven]

Clay has Endure so he can tank a bit

Cyrus should be able to kill Nita before Sync at lower Str

[tiny ore]

It aint realistic to hit top 100 at all w/o the arc units this time

the power creep w/ these guys is disgusting

[soft lodge]

that's about what I figure, doesn't seem impossible without them though but probably just better off hoping to daily one of them rather than expending effort without

[icy burrow]

I lack alot of these units lol

[cunning shore]

Do you have the good limited supports?

[acoustic quarry]

Aaahu see !

I told u Iris was the moove ( how did u do 91k tho wtf xDD )

[haughty haven]

Bc that when my Iris still hate DC2 and refused to get it

I think i did a really good job to keep my Hp high

[shy flax]

Does N’s parameter affect EXR Arc Cynthia?

[sterile frost]

No.

[acoustic quarry]

oh yeah that nice 😮

DC 2 ? Lower Def on Hit Cookie ?

[haughty haven]

Yeah

Iris really good with it

Bc of her passive Double Drop

It makes -2 Def instead of -1 Def when it proc

[idle plinth]

I'm okay with this. Too lazy to optimize further

[flat sundial]

can someone help be draft up 5 teams for each battle please

i hate teammaking for this HS challenge

[idle plinth]

At the very least I'd make Zerena, Drasna, Maxie, Courtney, and Cynthia the cores, but tbh I just wing it myself so I might give some bad advice beyond that

[flat sundial]

ty anyway

i found a good video to use that' f2p invested

[idle plinth]

Oh. Best of luck

[night sleet]

I recomend . Use some off type support. Bertha and cynthia on maxie.

Nita cyrus iris champ

Zinnia need zerrena and drasna?

For leon ss leon lucas

And last maxie courtney

All need off type sup wat cary teams

[outer whale]

Question for type guards. Is my assumption correct for these?
Maxie: fire guard
Nita: dark guard
Zinnia: dragon Guard
Leon: Dragon Guard
N: electric Guard

Not too sure on zinnia and leon since they are more multitype

[haughty haven]

Yes, Zinnia you can choose between Dark and Dragon

For Leon Dragon is better bc sidemon has Dragon move too

[outer whale]

Gotcha

Just wanted to make sure before i waste cookies

[night sleet]

Nita ground guard

[outer whale]

She uses crunch more tho no?

ST attacks are muchh more scarier than aoe.

[night sleet]

I use ground

Since for me she use this most off them

[outer whale]

Hmm...

[night sleet]

Rest gaurds is ok

[haughty haven]

Nita only has 3 EQ tho

After that she spamming Crunch

Before Sync she has Rock Smash but not after Sync

[night sleet]

Hmm its random

[haughty haven]

Most of the time, you pray she use EQ early if you use Mallow

Bc she can just heal it back with her Sync

But reseting for 2 early EQ is bs

Bc the Clay thing can use Dazzling Gleam and that is a reset time

[cunning shore]

What I used so far
Fire for maxie
Ground for Nita
Dark for Zinnia
Rock/water for Leon*
Electric for N

Why I decided to go with Rock/water for Leon is because I rush pre-sync mid - flinches and paras proc.
The moment mid dies, you're left there to deal with surfs and rock slides, for quite the few turns. So you need to survive/flinch as long as you can.

[cunning shore]

To me dazzling gleam was the resetting point

Didn't matter what cycle nita had

Just don't dazzling

[sullen pier]

[night sleet]

Just flinch it

[cunning shore]

Did i even use a flincher vs Nita

[night sleet]

Best play

[cunning shore]

Yeaaaah aggravation 1 dragon rush

Screw that

[night sleet]

Is agg2;)

[cunning shore]

Is it

It's horrible

Nearly never flinch

[outer whale]

I'm using gastrodon with team Water Guard

I should be able to take out the rock slide sidemon easily since i'm using Nc Nate and Arc Lance

Sync with Nc Nate, then Arc Lance, with super syncer, should KO Leon with B hyper beam and focus on left sidemon

[night sleet]

I did it

Beat zinnia on 1000 str😂

Never think its possibel even😏

Sad they did not give me points😂

So dragon ground team its zero chance do it. If this team barrely survive

[atomic quiver]

Thankfully my roster barely made the 200K mark

[cunning shore]

I have a neighbor I know

Hallelujah

How do I increase my Zinnia Run
There must be a solution somehow

This is a struggle

I think it is also possible to push my Maxie (with Hapu) higher

But not Zinnia

This is just a joke.

[haughty haven]

Zinnia: haha suffer

[cunning shore]

I been steadily pushing everything else up

But I can't even replicate my highest Zinnia run lol

What teams have y'all done for her

[haughty haven]

Me with Max Guard Raihan and lovely +5 evasion from him

[cunning shore]

I can't bring Raihan there

Already in another stage

Also no rika

So yeah

[haughty haven]

Idk if Rika even good choice tbh

[cunning shore]

Does she buff defense?

[haughty haven]

Bc most of the run just dodge everything and Max Guard

[haughty haven]

Yes

But she cant heal reliable

[cunning shore]

Then good choice

Ye i can imagine the run

Unfortunately can't replicate

[cunning shore]

So i can push all stages past 100k

Zinnia: good luck reaching 80k noob

[haughty haven]

That also why i had this LS for her

I really need some healing

At least you got 3 stage pass 100k rn

I still only 2

I have more score than you just bc i have more supp

[cunning shore]

But your 100s are way higher

Which makes up

[haughty haven]

Like i own almost 90% supp is the game

Just bc i think supp is just really important and it is

[cunning shore]

I triedddd but you know
Gacha games

[haughty haven]

Gacha

[cunning shore]

Like how I candied NYClair
Then next day i get her in mix

My candy

Wasted

Rip

[haughty haven]

Well

I got 6/5 Anni Raihan

While i candied him to 5/5 before

[cyan tusk]

71K is already good

[cunning shore]

[cyan tusk]

I’m not joking

Zinnia is a nightmare

I’ve spent 3 hours yesterday to try and increase her with no luck

[haughty haven]

How is your Zinnia Bicio ?

[cyan tusk]

and today we are changing team

[cunning shore]

What's your current score

[haughty haven]

100k yet ?

[cyan tusk]

Like this.

[cyan tusk]

Nope, but I got 100K on nita

[cunning shore]

Dis just sad

[haughty haven]

Imagine not debuffing that +1 accurate

[cyan tusk]

Also that’s a 700 str

[haughty haven]

Were you aim for 90k ?

[cyan tusk]

Guys 700 str with 2 ExR unit, all +6 +10 +10 energy

It’s really sad.

[haughty haven]

Oh, you used Ingo bc BFF

And Pots too

And Sand too

[haughty haven]

I used Rika bc ofc no BFF/Champion bonus

[cyan tusk]

Loving the bff

[haughty haven]

But 7 minutes is really long ngl

[cyan tusk]

Best friend forever?
No, BATTLE FACILITY FOE

[haughty haven]

I also did it at 700 Str

Maybe bc Rika has Poison ?

Or bc i didn’t Sync with Raihan ?

Idk but i killed side very quickly and left mid alone

[mortal timber]

Love to be able to take pauses from HSE this early

How is it going here all good?

[haughty haven]

I’m ready to be like you

Stop to enjoy life

[outer whale]

Well teams are made. Still need to craft skill gears

[mortal timber]

You gonna stop after this one too?

Based pykuo

Not worth anymore with arc suits

[mortal timber]

Gl with that

[hollow prism]

Ok so what i’m getting is

[mortal timber]

I wasted more than 500 feathers for this one

[outer whale]

I won't have luck, only pain

[hollow prism]

start with all the good units on Zinnia and fucking obliterate her

And then all the other stages are easy

[haughty haven]

Next Hs if they release more Arc pair for it, i’ll just drop it and blame them

[cyan tusk]

Or you can just boost the other 4 and get what you get on zinnia

But the problem is zinnia’s parameter

[mortal timber]

Sounds good to me

[hollow prism]

What is it again? No strikes?

[haughty haven]

Maybe until that we can trash talk the game again Dabbo

[mortal timber]

Same plan

[haughty haven]

[outer whale]

Tje fact that they're basing HSE on the units of the month is miserable

[hollow prism]

Oh right no physical dmg

[cyan tusk]

No physical dmg

[mortal timber]

Sounds a great idea pykuo

[hollow prism]

Which is why everyone uses Zerena

[mortal timber]

Approved

[cyan tusk]

And if you go look at all the units, 80% are physical

[outer whale]

I BET YOU. NEXT HSE WILL BE BUG/FIRE

[hollow prism]

No it’s gonna be Fire Flying

[outer whale]

nah, Bug fire, or Dark/Fire

[hollow prism]

Bug fire 🤢

[outer whale]

Just to piss us off with the arc suits

[mortal timber]

Bug fire sounds scary lmfao

But probable

[cyan tusk]

I’m excpecting the electric poison tbh

[haughty haven]

Ngl, i’m so ready to voice again with Rosa to trash talk this game more

[hollow prism]

I don’t want electric poison

[cyan tusk]

With sspiers/ssroxie rerun

[haughty haven]

[hollow prism]

My poison roster is close to max

[cyan tusk]

Bc they have not been rerunned yet

[hollow prism]

I want Grass Poison

I will FUCK UP that HS lineup

[outer whale]

Pykuo: Game bad, No spheal in this game

The fact we haven't gotten spheal actually is insane

[haughty haven]

My plan rn is stop playing this game when Spheal pair released

[hollow prism]

Wait rly

[haughty haven]

Bc all spin off pokemon game i did that

[hollow prism]

😭

Why wouldn’t you play with the unit

[outer whale]

Spheal% real

[haughty haven]

I’ll just 5/5 him real quick and stop this game completely

[hollow prism]

But you have to win a HS with him

[haughty haven]

No, this game just already dead to me

I still love chatting but playing?

Nah

Event rn how many event we can spend our Stamina ?

Sr but i just feel empty about this game

[hollow prism]

Somehow the new events take so much stamina and I still have leftover

We need like 3 more events a month minimum

[cunning shore]

Flashback to dishing out 950 feathers for Fire Hse

[cunning shore]

They won't return fire this soon
I bet it's gonna be Steel/bug or something

[night sleet]

Wat this ls do?

[cunning shore]

Synchro healing

But only First time

[hollow prism]

Ew

Wtf is that

[night sleet]

Meh she need electric guard

[cunning shore]

It's like Applin's Passive

[night sleet]

N hit after sync like tank

[hollow prism]

Lucky Skill

[night sleet]

Yes same like this

Its hear custom so never check it

[cunning shore]

Some customs are busted though

[night sleet]

Since never use custom ls most are trash

[cunning shore]

Some others are meh

[hollow prism]

Which ones

[night sleet]

Some its realy limited haha

[hollow prism]

Bc i genuinely cannot think of a single good one

[night sleet]

Like 3/4 maybe

[cunning shore]

Irida custom is really good

[hollow prism]

What is it

[cunning shore]

SC Irida

Sync modifier

[night sleet]

Irida boost sync damage from trap

[hollow prism]

How much

[cunning shore]

Sync and trap 4

[hollow prism]

Ok

I was ready for a 1

💀

[night sleet]

Same arc cynthia sand blaster 4

[cunning shore]

Is that

Wait a minute

Have i been doing Cynthia wrong

[hollow prism]

Are you serious?

[night sleet]

Yes

[hollow prism]

😭

[cunning shore]

Why did I roll for Weathered warrior 3

[hollow prism]

We’re fkn dumb Jo

[night sleet]

Just on maxie hear main is sync

So better focus on this

[cunning shore]

Yeah
Let me go grab my 100k Maxie run

[night sleet]

But you need trap them from b move

So low def and get sync 10up

Not use trainer move

[hollow prism]

Is Lance’s B Move special?

[night sleet]

Yes

[cunning shore]

Yes

[hollow prism]

Is he not good enough for Zinnia

[night sleet]

But its pointles on zinnia

[cunning shore]

Trainer move gives her 5 sync though?

[night sleet]

Hit trap 3 give you 3

[cunning shore]

Or you mean to make sure i use trap too

I already did yeah

[hollow prism]

Can’t we try and put both Zerena and Lance on Zinnia

[night sleet]

So befor cynthia sync you have 10

[cunning shore]

I trap all 3 before spamming bmove

[night sleet]

I try lance

You waist him on zinnia

[hollow prism]

Ik that risks overkill but if Lance isn’t super critical anywhere else

[night sleet]

His sync do nothing

[hollow prism]

You wouldn’t sync with him it would be B move nuke on Mid

To complement Zerena’s spread

[cunning shore]

Ehhhhhhh you might be getting somewhere but still he's definitely made to take on Leon

[night sleet]

Need sync for rebuffs

Still its not a play

He take leon down befor his sync

I did his b move 52k on leon

[hollow prism]

Is there any other unit that can take on Leon or nah

[cyan tusk]

Btw arc Steven has team healing entry as custom ls

Which is overkill I know

But it’s busted lol

[cunning shore]

There are

[night sleet]

Ss leon can take him down too

Use him

[cunning shore]

But probably ss leon and Zerena being the next alternative

[hollow prism]

Hm

[night sleet]

Leon only since you sync 2 time super up next

Zerrena deal too low damage for it

The best is lance

He clear it fast and easy even 1000 str is like walk in park whit him

[hollow prism]

Can Zerena at least clear sides on Zinnia at higher str

[night sleet]

Yes she can

[hollow prism]

Bc maybe we just need good ST to put with her

[night sleet]

I did nc blue zerrena team 800 str

[hollow prism]

And i rly don’t wanna do Lucas

Bc Lucas Zerena is actual cancer

[night sleet]

Lucas is ussles

This hse

[hollow prism]

How does he have NO niche

[night sleet]

Only when zone need is zinnia

She dragon haha

If ny clair have spe def then would be a play

But she die super easy so try set zone haha bad play

[hollow prism]

So far the only thing i feel like i have as a lock is Nate Iris on SSLeon

And it seems most people put Cynthia on Maxie

[cyan tusk]

Lucas’ niche is a team with Nyclair on SSLeon

[hollow prism]

Ew

[cyan tusk]

Bc Lucas has super command 4 but the problem is arclance is better in that team

[hollow prism]

NYClair needs 3/5?

[cyan tusk]

Yes

[hollow prism]

Damn time to see if i can fit Lucas anywhere at all 💀

Him being bad is really bad for my roster

I have 1/5 syndrome

[cunning shore]

@night sleet what's your Cynthia grid?

[hollow prism]

Do all of you have 5/5 cynthia

Please say no

I’m poor

[cunning shore]

5/5 cynthia is just qol

[hollow prism]

Thank god

What about 4/5 Lance

[cunning shore]

Lance is the broken one

Gets relentless in 4/5

And I something good in 5/5 as well

[hollow prism]

Nah it’s a 3rd rebuff

🤡

[cunning shore]

3rd rebuff ye

Not bad

[hollow prism]

3rd rebuff is ass

10% boost

[cunning shore]

Cynthia gets sandstorm on sync at 5/5 but ideally the battle is already over with your 2 storms

[hollow prism]

Ok i was hoping that would be the case

[cunning shore]

I don't recall her 4/5

I think raw 20 attack

[hollow prism]

It’s prob not a big deal

From what i remember only 5/5 Cynthia and 4/5 lance matter

Steven somehow taking names at 1/5

[mortal timber]

The 5/5 node for lance is one of the weakest thing they could have ever thought to lock there

[cunning shore]

Pretty much

[mortal timber]

Of all the things he could have got instead

Oh well

Important is the rest is broken

Meanwhile dust kicker is kinda viral considering Cynthia's extension is 3 and not 5

[cunning shore]

She can live without it

[mortal timber]

In longer battles it's kinda important

[hollow prism]

Yeah in UB it’s already a big issue

[mortal timber]

It's probably one of the wisest things to lock up there

And they thought it well

[hollow prism]

One of?

[mortal timber]

Sadly

[hollow prism]

Buddy it ain’t even close

There’s NO SANDSTORM MPR

[mortal timber]

Wanna compare dust kicker with a dragon rebuff

[hollow prism]

Her 5/5 literally makes her a Tapu but with the best striker dmg in the game

[mortal timber]

Like dude, read lmfao, I am actually praising the Devs for being smart and putting dust kicker at 5/5

[hollow prism]

Ye i know

[mortal timber]

While at the same time for lance they went for frickin rebuff

Ain't no way those are the same people

[hollow prism]

There is quite literally nothing else that could go at 5/5 that would matter 1/10 as much

[mortal timber]

Damage multipliers rawrrrrr

Moar of them

Moarrrrrr

[hollow prism]

I would laugh at a Haymaker tile over dust kicker

Easy skip

But dust kicker?

Ooof

[mortal timber]

Forcing us to 5/5 basically for max power

They thought it well

That is what I was trying to say basically

[night sleet]

My grid

My grid

[cunning shore]

Aha

[night sleet]

You can skip def crush

So noo need 10E

I have it from dc

[cunning shore]

I was gonna ask if i should do this

The one below is 1 trap all get trapped

[night sleet]

Nah deff need

Then you can use it too

She have this haha never saw it

[cunning shore]

Same energy as the one up that you have

9

[night sleet]

Yeap but better hit b move

From start for damage and sync boost

So i pref sand trap 4

[cyan tusk]

Trap is better

[main pulsar]

It’s 6% actual dps increase I think

[night sleet]

Any way i already finish maxie yesterday got full hp on 1000 str nothing more too get

[main pulsar]

Which is kinda funny

[cyan tusk]

You start stacking sync move up next

[night sleet]

Yes b move trap hit is better

[main pulsar]

No u don’t

The initial attack trap doesn’t get it

I’m 70% sure of this

[cunning shore]

Okay will go for that then

[main pulsar]

See

No sync move up

@cyan tusk U 2

[cyan tusk]

Using sand tomb is a waste

[main pulsar]

Prolly

But I just sayin that attack trap don’t give sync move up next

What’s a good acronym for this

Syun

I guess

[night sleet]

Its give sup up next stacks

When you hit trap oponent

[main pulsar]

Yis

[night sleet]

And atack trap is 40%

[main pulsar]

No this is trapped

Also is 50 isn’t it

[night sleet]

For me work perfect in hse

Maxie and rest traped and i got 10up befor sync cynthia

[main pulsar]

So u press tm?

[night sleet]

No

Why

Only sand storm for attack

[main pulsar]

Cuz mathematically shouldn’t be possible

Initial trap attack no give syun

[night sleet]

No seuyn

Its this sync up next wat only arc have

[cyan tusk]

Inital no the others yes

[main pulsar]

Yea

[cyan tusk]

If you trap all 3 turn 1 with attack trap

[night sleet]

Super up next have all

[cyan tusk]

You start stacking

[night sleet]

Yes

[cyan tusk]

Without wasting time on sand tomb

[night sleet]

1 from each oponent

[hollow prism]

Do you need to do that at all, don’t you only need to do mid

[night sleet]

So 4 hit you have 10 up

You pref have more then 1

Yeach 1 traped is 1 up next

So if 3 have 3 each hit lol

[cunning shore]

Hapuuuuu gamingggggg

Unfortunately
No misses

Could've healed up more

[night sleet]

Lol crazy haha

Hapu mvp

[cunning shore]

I can only imagine what a cool ingo would do to this team

[night sleet]

1000 str easy

[cunning shore]

850 with Hapu
Not bad

I can get more score if i miss more

[night sleet]

Yeap not bad too but its arc cynthia carru team

[cunning shore]

But groudon likes to land everything

[cyan tusk]

Fire blast is not that hard to miss

[cunning shore]

YET HE NEVER MISSES

Poor bertha ate 2 fire blasts
One -3 and one -6

[night sleet]

I got 1 miss from it and was last move

Haha so got full hp

[cunning shore]

Ill try again later

Now all my clears

100k

Except

Zinnia

[night sleet]

Zinnia did 100k need this team haha

[cunning shore]

She really pulling me down

[night sleet]

But no bonus haha

[cunning shore]

Your score on her is not 100k?

[night sleet]

No lol

[cunning shore]

How does that #1 player have 615k then

[night sleet]

124k on 4

And rest is zinnia

[cunning shore]

Geez

[night sleet]

He score 119k on zinnia?

Hmm

Sad we never see his team

[cunning shore]

Must be insane

2 max users maybe

[night sleet]

Zinnia units are limited

[cunning shore]

Why have I not tried to off type Zinnia

[night sleet]

Like zerrena raihan ss leon

Its realy strange he could kill mid whit them befor 2 sync on high str for 119k

[whole finch]

[night sleet]

God betray you for sure🙃

[whole finch]

[tall citrus]

I’ve done some thinking on this actually.

#1 Probable scores -
Maxie: 125k
Nita: ?
Zinnia: ?
SSLeon: 125k
N: 125k

I’m assuming 125k for those three stages because the time trial rule makes 130k impossible.

1st place scored 615k, which means both Nita and Zinnia stages combined must be 240k.

That means the absolute minimum for each of Nita or Zinnia stages must be 115k (ie Nita 115k Zinnia 125k, or the other way around).

From the chat in this channel, a 115k Zinnia clear with Zerena as the main nuke with any combination of ARaihan, SCLyra, VLance, NYClaire etc is borderline impossible. If not using Zerena on Zinnia’s stage, all other special damage dealers such as SSLeon and Ryuki likely wouldn’t be able to clear 115k either.

All this is under the assumption that there’s a comp for Nita’s stage that can do 125k, which seems really tough in itself (assuming NC Nate is the main nuke).

With that context, I’m guessing 1st place HAS NOT used Arc Lance on the SSLeon stage, but rather on Zinnia’s stage. They’ve found some other way to hit ~120k on SSLeon stage without Arc Lance, which seems doable given the plethora of pairs that are super effective against dragon type.

tldr; Given 1st place scored 615k, I think Arc Lance was likely used on Zinnia’s stage instead of SSLeon’s stage

[night sleet]

Arc lance on zinnia do nothing

You 1 b move and its all

His use end

Maks points is 124

125 no chance do it

Time and more attack cut score i did max hp stages is 124k maks score

Arc lance sync is no use on zinnia since is physical. Plus nothing gain from b move since not hit super up next .

[hollow prism]

That’s all you need tbh

Zerena has really good AOE

[night sleet]

Not on 850/900 str

[hollow prism]

And even lance’s base dmg is fine

But it should be enough for sides, no?

Especially if Lance is -6 on sides

[night sleet]

Sides no issue whit zerrena

[hollow prism]

Yeah that’s what Lance is for

The B move on Mid

You need strong Single target to backup a good aoe

[night sleet]

But still you never kill him

[hollow prism]

Can Lance not sync nuke mid as well

At least once

[night sleet]

Its not leon you dont have super up next and he dragon weak

He need sync for rebuffs

[hollow prism]

And also keep in mind he sets a rebuff on sides and 2 rebuff on mid

[night sleet]

So kinda good and bad

[hollow prism]

WITH the -6

So doing enough for 800+ seems not outrageous

[night sleet]

Not sure about it

[hollow prism]

Well how else could someone possibly get 115k minimum

[night sleet]

Ask jp who is 1

He now haha

[hollow prism]

There is quite literally no other way to do that much then with the 2 best dragon units

[night sleet]

Lance if sync special yes

[hollow prism]

The B move is special tho

[night sleet]

One use lol

One traget

[hollow prism]

It shouldn’t matter

[night sleet]

If was aoe then would think about it

[hollow prism]

It is THAT strong

If it was AOE then it’d be pointless

Zerena is all AOE

[night sleet]

Why aoe no penalty always good

[hollow prism]

Same thing with TRed and Ash. TRed has the volt tackle to take sides and mid, then ash nukes mid with the buddy bolt

[night sleet]

Hard tell me but jp did 119k on it

[hollow prism]

If you only have AOE then mid lives way too long

[night sleet]

Or he did 850/900 str full hp

Or 1000 str one survie

[hollow prism]

If you only have single target then you have to either waste time on sides and give chance for an extra sync from AI, or leave sides at full and take spread

Which is why teams often want both

[cyan tusk]

I’m elaborating a combo of Lucas + Anni raihan on SSLeon

SEUN sync on SEUN Max move

But also I Don’t see how much more 615K we can get tbh

[thorny grove]

What is top 100 at rn?

I haven’t even started but I wanna try to get top without spending any candies.

[night sleet]

Hey luck:)

400k

Top100 now

[thorny grove]

Ok that’s not too bad. Usually that mean about 450k-475k by the end

Who are the better units for the event? I’d imagine Arc Cynthia and Arc Lance are both 100k clears on stages.

[cyan tusk]

Supports making the world of difference

Fall Roxanne caked and invested too.

[night sleet]

Arc too off course need

Hard tell how it end

Prob 450/460

[hollow prism]

I have the supports but Ingo, NYClair, and Pallow are all 1/5

[thorny grove]

Wish I had her invested lol. I’m likely not gonna upgrade a single unit here. The only ones would be Lance and Cynthia since from here on I’m trying to save on candies for like 3-4 HSE from now and burst into top 20. Since last one I’ve made that my new HSE goal.

[night sleet]

1/5 pykuo use so can be too

[thorny grove]

I don’t have Rika. I could’ve gotten her from the support scout but I really wanted Penny ;-;. I’m close to scout points though so maybe I’ll get her there

[night sleet]

Then you need scout all arc units wat never was type in hse

Penny is no need now

Since hse fairy and dc rankend end

[thorny grove]

Yeah I know, I’ve just wanted her since release but never got her.

[night sleet]

So hear use will be just lg but rika better in lg

[hollow prism]

I chose penny, then GOT HER ON MIX FOR 2/5

[thorny grove]

I probably should’ve taken Rika and not had to wait for her but eh I’m not too worrie

[hollow prism]

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[thorny grove]

That is my biggest fear with selects now

[night sleet]

Rika better then penny

[hollow prism]

And then i pulled the HS banner and got all 3 in 15k

[hollow prism]

That take is wild

[night sleet]

Yeap just use rika is better for game

Penny dc and hse

Lg rika is one off top units 13 solo on extra orbs need

Penny need for most 10E

Now for both off them only lg left too shine

Rika even 1/5 have solos

Its mean alot haha

[thorny grove]

Btw how’s the roster here? I plan to upgrade Arc Cynthia and Arc Lance but that’s about it because saving for favorites and an HSE that’s gonna happen in like a year go brrrrrr.

[night sleet]

Best is not just pik unit for 1 event but have some use after too even 1/5

[rough forum]

Good enough for now ig
400
270
300
300
400

[night sleet]

Arc cynthia bertha and ingo is 1000 str easy team

[thorny grove]

Nice, is that with 3/5 or can it be done with 1/5? If 1/5 then that helps a lot

[night sleet]

3/5 for sure need

1/5 no chance lol

[thorny grove]

Ok we’ll rip that dream

[rough forum]

1/5 cyn sucks

[night sleet]

You need damage for cynthia

[rough forum]

No attack trap, no multipliers

[night sleet]

Maybe 600 str ? Should be done 1/5

You can try first

[thorny grove]

I wish sand blaster wasn’t locked into 5/5 that’s like the best part of her kit but you gotta invest everything into her for it

[night sleet]

If beat can try high always

Yeap 5/5 node help dont set sand again

[thorny grove]

I have a question. For god. WHYYYYYY

One energy short. Just one energy short

Why does this happen with like every unit ;-;

The perfect grid is sitting right there and it’s just barely out of reach.

[outer whale]

Well i finished my gears.....ish

Have fun looking at this chaos

[cyan tusk]

Just drop a sync node

You’ll be fine

[outer whale]

The N team with 2 electric DR passives is wild

[hasty zenith]

Just scored 92k N with 1/5 Cynthia

It's hard af

[outer whale]

@haughty haven @mortal timber if you want to see what the game cooked up for me.

[night sleet]

Need pick atack trap

Kick one node

[night sleet]

Its lodge lance?

[outer whale]

Don't have lodge lance

It's Arc Lance

[thorny grove]

Isn’t the tomb one better? You do one sand tomb and it applies it to every unit guaranteed

[night sleet]

No since better use b move

Stack faster sync ups

And more damage

Arc lance and nate?

Its lodge cynthia tank lol

[trail adder]

Don't even ask about that Zinnia team

[night sleet]

Lodge rika first see it

But score is not bad on this team

[outer whale]

Ok, finished my grids.

I think i'm almost ready.... will probably do like 2 battles tomorrow maybe

[thorny grove]

I haven’t seen a team that uses Arc Lance yet, where does he fit best,

[slate flame]

need help building teams, if I need to show something else, say it

[night sleet]

Arc lance not many have it🫢

Vs leon is good team

[outer whale]

everyone went for Cynthia since Cynthia.

I went for Lance because Def/Spdef drops are funny when max debuffed in one turn

[hollow prism]

And no one went for the correct unit which is Steven

[outer whale]

oh i got him.

quite early in fact.

[cyan tusk]

go for all 3

[outer whale]

just a shame he can't be USED HERE

[slate flame]

the priority list has cynthia on top, steven is 2nd

[cyan tusk]

Priority list is made of people
And people most common weakness is Cynthia

Hi, I’m people

[outer whale]

even if cynthia and Steven were swapped, people will still go for cynthia because.......cynthia.

[hollow prism]

Yeah and i complain about it constantly

Because it’s wrong

For the exact same reason NCRed over NCBlue was wrong

And tons of people regret that exact decision A LOT

[hollow prism]

Exactly like me

I had 100k gems going into this month and i have pulled, in order:

Cynthia 5 multis, Steven 8 multis, Lance 1 multi 💀, all the selects, Mix 3/5 Leaf, and the HS Banner for all 3 units 5 multis

And I still after ALL OF THAT have enough to pity SSLear if i need to

[thorny grove]

I had 56k and got em all plus Nemona and now I’ve got enough for Lear. Simply a pull skill issue

[slate flame]

not sure, but I do see your point, but cynthia's hotter so she gets a point for that

Im saving and trying for steven now

[hollow prism]

Yeah i know everyone is in horny mode

I’m just saying yall will regret it

[slate flame]

also cynthia gets the insanity of summoning infinite sandstorm and ground zone at 5/5, she's the ultimate field pair lol

[slate flame]

ngl, I regret not getting nc blue, he'll be my main focus on his rerun in december/january

[hollow prism]

And that’s why i wish the server at least tried to convince people of steven

Who did you end up pulling for

[slate flame]

at least everyone agrees lance is the worse of the trio

[hollow prism]

Yes

Which cannot be said for 4th anni bc i think even leaf beats red

[slate flame]

got cynthia at 280-ish points, already did 5 multis on steven

[blazing raven]

consider: get both cynthia and steven

[hollow prism]

I wish it were that simple for most

[blazing raven]

im sorry lance fans im not pulling for him but

[slate flame]

consider: sharing credit card info so I can buy gems and guarantee steven

[blazing raven]

hey i got both of them with f2p saved gems (barely)

but yeah like

i do think ultimately if you have to pick one you pick cynthia for raw strength and steven for general utility, but steven can only help so much if youre really lacking ykno?

[hollow prism]

Totally disagree

[blazing raven]

im also saving up for the nc blue rerun having not been active when he dropped

[hollow prism]

Cynthia is only helpful to the point you can live attacks

Steven can carry weaker units to the point they can compete much easier

[blazing raven]

yeah but for being a striker she has an insane amount of bulk and sustain

[hollow prism]

The support always takes precedent over the strike unless the strike is that much better

[long oyster]

At what point does Steven's carry break Cynthia's dmg when she just rolls over everything with her nuke

[hollow prism]

Cynthia does not have the same pitfalls as other strikes though

[blazing raven]

i think ultimately cynthia > steven but its very very close

[hollow prism]

Def not

[long oyster]

I think it doesn't matter

[blazing raven]

lance is. well. he was interesting but hes not anywhere near the other two arcs

[hollow prism]

Cynthia is imo the #4 unit in the game rn

[long oyster]

Pick one, that's all there is to it

[blazing raven]

itll be interesting to see what they do for alder and diantha

[hollow prism]

Under in order TRed, Blue, and Steven

[long oyster]

Because by the time you regret not pulling for the other, your roster is gonna grow to the point it's only gonna be a detail anyway

[hollow prism]

Blue was an exception to this

Blue is often a get out of jail free on UBs where you don’t have the req unit

[long oyster]

UBs are 300 gems and don't expire

[hollow prism]

Steven has a very similar kit but supports physical units FAR better because PMUN

[long oyster]

There is no FOMO involved here

[hollow prism]

People still regret it

To an extent

[long oyster]

That's like regretting not picking a penny from the ground

[hollow prism]

Nah not really

[blazing raven]

the only regret is not pulling ash jessie or james

bc those units are 100% never coming back

[long oyster]

If UBs are the reason you regret not picking blue, yeah it is

[hollow prism]

I didn’t, and none of them are really critical

[blazing raven]

every other unit will eventually come back

[hollow prism]

So not really

[long oyster]

jessie and james were free, skill issue

[blazing raven]

they were??

god

[hollow prism]

I wasn’t playing during their run

[blazing raven]

i missed so much 😭

[long oyster]

Yup

[blazing raven]

...

wh

[hollow prism]

I started late 3rd anni

[blazing raven]

why did my sob auto-fill a flag....

anyway

[long oyster]

If it makes you feel better, DeNA is never updating them so they've been aging terribadly

[blazing raven]

im fine with them never rerunning ash but i do with i could get jessie and james bc i adore them as characters

oh for sure

jessie and james are not good

but theyre jessie and james

[night sleet]

Ash will be back

[hollow prism]

Ash is hanging on to meta relevancy by a thread

[night sleet]

As arc ash 1000 scout point one day haha

[hollow prism]

He is not useful outside of Blue TRed

[long oyster]

I was speaking of Jessie & James

[blazing raven]

much in the same way that like. og anni lillie is adorable and i love lunala so if she comes back i might see if i can go for her

but objectively thats not a 'good' use of gems

[hollow prism]

And it’s only a matter of time before a better electric unit comes out that can actually deal good CONSISTENT dmg

And not “the one B move unit”

[blazing raven]

i mean ok

electric units

[night sleet]

We sure get more electric

[blazing raven]

sst red and ash are in their own tier, but we do have a number of other really good electrics dont we?

[long oyster]

Imma still use le funny "Delete that enemy" button tbh

Especially since I have 2 now

[hollow prism]

How do you have 2

[long oyster]

Lance

[hollow prism]

How does Lance give ash a second B move again

[long oyster]

That's

Not what I said

[blazing raven]

sygna piers and hau both seem like theyre good, chase may not be a direct dmg dealer but

[night sleet]

I don’t like lance

[hollow prism]

Oh nvm

[hollow prism]

None are good ST dmg

[blazing raven]

its def a type of high highs and low lows tho

[hollow prism]

You need ST dmg to match TRed’s aoe

Honestly, Iono might be that as bad as it is

[blazing raven]

i mean

[hollow prism]

Hey i didn’t say it was GOOD

[tough briar]

@cunning shore can you show your teams for HSE

[blazing raven]

i did preface this with 'sst red and ash are in a tier of their own'

[hollow prism]

Ash is really only there bc of lack of competition

[tough briar]

Are you people hitting 500k whales? How do you have 3/5 on every good unit

[long oyster]

Candies

[hollow prism]

My roster is full but ass

Dark Ghost 2 moment

[blazing raven]

time investment is as valuable as money investment

[long oyster]

I haven't even started HSE yet actually

[hollow prism]

Same

[blazing raven]

i'm 2/5 done

[hollow prism]

I’m waiting for all the heavy hitters to do their teams so i can shamelessly steal them

[blazing raven]

need to redo maxie, was starting with him but switched to nita

[hollow prism]

[blazing raven]

but i cleared 60k on n so i should be ok to clear 200 total and thats all i need

[long oyster]

Imma stop at 200k I think

Too lazy to upgrade anything

[hollow prism]

Bro what

Your roster is fucking stacked

[cunning shore]

5/5 SSGiovanni goddamn