Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

[dawn plume]

we will know this week

probably

[karmic willow]

yeah

we will know this week

[dreamy warren]

2 days left.....

[shy notch]

Mfw evasion doesn’t do its job

[dawn plume]

still only 6 solos for her huh

she might need that superawakening

[bitter gate]

She needs higher investment I think

And SA, yes

[dawn plume]

team star things

BASED eri only need 3/5 to get 12/14 though

[chrome halo]

@hallow gull invent more Mela solos

[pearl beacon]

🍎

[hallow gull]

But but i’m lazy

Also dodge solo sucks

[brisk sapphire]

You are Mela's only hope

[chrome halo]

[hallow gull]

I’ll give Mela hope for Gakon

[chrome halo]

1/5 Mela and a dream

[brisk sapphire]

Real

[true tartan]

as Pykuo has tried before

Azelf is another possible one

Regirock, nope, Registeel, unlikely, could be with luck + DC2, but then you'd running for your life trying to end the last bar

Uxie... may have a possibility? but her nuke is not really that strong

[karmic willow]

i am gonna be honest

i wanna say yes

[dreamy warren]

why do you think it will be gone?

[karmic willow]

it's been months

since we had one

they are reworking it to something new i think?

[dreamy warren]

we only skipped 1 month of lg

[karmic willow]

that's way too long

[rocky oasis]

hopefully smth w/ better rewards

[karmic willow]

but honestly

[dreamy warren]

that would count as yes

[karmic willow]

something better

[rocky oasis]

im kinda sick of seeimg registeel tbh

[karmic willow]

make the whole winstreak thingy

a bit less laggy on view

[rocky oasis]

almost as much as im sick of uxie

[dreamy warren]

Lg was gone for 1 month before hse was added

[karmic willow]

i'm sick

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

honestly though i wanna see raikou in already

and cress

[dreamy warren]

they are adding communities next month

[rocky oasis]

rest you goober

[karmic willow]

like imagine Raikou Cress and SOMETHING

hopefully something easy

[dreamy warren]

Imagine ub gauntlet

[karmic willow]

if it's ub gauntlet

[rocky oasis]

bleh

[dreamy warren]

hell

[karmic willow]

the real question here is

[rocky oasis]

That would be miserable

[karmic willow]

would you do arc steven + clay on lucy?

[dreamy warren]

I just said it as a joke

[karmic willow]

only a few teams can realistically do certain ubs

like for example

Rei Bianca core + literally anything on palmer

wasn't it?

[rocky oasis]

once you blow your a steven and nc blue and sst red youre just fucked

[dreamy warren]

every ub has a minimum of 50 clears I think

[karmic willow]

yeah but

[brisk sapphire]

UB Gauntlet. First one is Dana

[karmic willow]

how many of them has the same units?

[karmic willow]

to hell with that

at least i hope that they don't stack wincons

like

[dreamy warren]

Imagine co op lg

[karmic willow]

Anabel and Darach

[dreamy warren]

probably impossible

[karmic willow]

who knows

[dreamy warren]

they have completely different gimmicks

[karmic willow]

maybe we have not found the strat for it

because you ahve to remember

[karmic willow]

they still use wtz

so

eh, that was something

[dreamy warren]

Eve doesn't

[karmic willow]

well evelyn is more W but

idk my mind gravitated towards rains and all that

[dreamy warren]

Eve's gimmick is fluid fort and big mults if x stat is buffed

[karmic willow]

yeah and she obliterates you under sun

[dreamy warren]

are you thinking about nita

oh

are you thinking about anabel

[karmic willow]

oh right

anabel

yeah i forgot

i remembered entei so... entei and eve

but yeah even anabel has fluid fort too

ouch

[dreamy warren]

would ya all want a new difficulty level to be added to las

[karmic willow]

i mean

if it's more gems then sure

[dreamy warren]

and those new higher level las to be used for lg

[karmic willow]

give me like

MORE gems

a stupid amount

[dreamy warren]

ofc it's more gems but it would also have an effect on lg

[karmic willow]

okay guys imagine if

lg was made easier

like

first level of difficulty easy

more units used

more players would play

less suffering in the long run

i mean you'd still have to follow the rules but

s p e e d

then again it would allow more units to literally out stat stuff

[kind imp]

they lower their mitigations too

[karmic willow]

idk talking about the game is more fun than actually playing it for me rn

[karmic willow]

ya

[kind imp]

idr if it reaches 0 on everything

but i remember flinch being preetty long

[rocky oasis]

i wouldnt mind having the option to choose difficulty

[karmic willow]

if that's the case then

yeah

people would always pick the lowest diff

and then just crazy streaks

duos turns to solos

and so on

[rocky oasis]

im fine w/ hard clears as long as youre rewarded fir that

i have A LOT of shit i wanna ex

[karmic willow]

okay but what if it's just

win hard battles for more cookies

like

double the amount we get rn

hell, make it triple

also my end game is like

every flincher gets status immunity, vigilance

why stop at flameproof when you can go even HIGHER

[rocky oasis]

i want double the tix

i have cookies

i need tix

cookies aint enough motivation for me

[dreamy warren]

what if lg became "point" based and you could choose which difficulty of stages to do and the higher difficulties gave more points but lower difficulties were much easier

[rocky oasis]

bc i hate dealing w/ the CS timegate

i need ex poppy

and i gotta finish up my supports

[dreamy warren]

and once you choose the difficulty for a stage, you cannot change the difficulty of the stage without resetting your entire run

[rocky oasis]

i mean id still be torturing myself for max points

as long as its rewarding

[karmic willow]

you know

i kinda wish they would do something as basic as this

give us a SECOND lucky skill slot

and make the pink cookies give Stoic 3 and Acumen 3

having a second LS would change so much

[worthy horizon]

we already have three so ig you specifically mean a second active one

[karmic willow]

yes

second active one

[worthy horizon]

yea

[karmic willow]

would be a nice buff for
LITERALLY EVERYONE

like my flint can actually get both pinpoint 2 so he never misses

• something

and then they went back to buff old grids

old pairs with new passives

look many people won't give a shit if flint gets flameproof

but i would because it would make the Elaine and Flint duo on moltress less painful (doing the solo is tough sometimes)

or imagine

phoebe getting the same LS rosa has

fixes her lack of sp.def buffs so badly

[rocky oasis]

gotta wonder if spdef buffs would finally let phoebe take out latios

[karmic willow]

i mean

if that is a second lucky skill option then

absolutely yes

if not then no

too little speed

[rocky oasis]

maybe if they fuxed that bug

[karmic willow]

what bug?

[rocky oasis]

the tm one

[karmic willow]

what's the bug again?

but mannnnnnn

i'm just daydreaming with that second active ls

i wonder what new solos would it enable

[worthy horizon]

wise entry 2 runs with phoebe didn't look too bad so i wouldn't be surprised if acumen actually did manage

or barricade buddies

double mgr3 to work with on shadow punch

[rocky oasis]

the bird be quaking in its boots bc suddenly everyone can afford status / debuff immunity

[bitter gate]

As someone who tried it extensively

it's a double-edged sword not being able to run FT

you get a lot less reliable attacks off

[quaint tartan]

How many egg species do we have so far in total? I have 85 egg sync pairs and trying to understand if I forgot to create a unit with anyone lol

[bitter gate]

and while getting the spdef buffs are nice

FT was a lot better than WE2 by far, akro and I both tested it

[worthy horizon]

i see

[bitter gate]

I'd rather she get Caitlyn passive or

Synchro healing

[rocky oasis]

yes its 85

and then theres the weird starter venu who technically counts as a regular venu but has a different passive

and the hitmon + eevees being weird

[quaint tartan]

Ok the starter egg has already been replaced years ago. Thx for the confirmation

Now waiting for egg cloyster rerun so I can have a support

[rocky oasis]

i want my starter back

like just for my collection

i chucked mine out back when i understood fuck all

[gleaming cypress]

thankfully my starter blastoise is still alive and well

[lost juniper]

This was already done I'm pretty sure. Not even too bad of a duo

[karmic willow]

i know it's doable so i mentioned it

but the reason that i mentioned it was because

are you willing to use up an entire arc steven to be able to make something like clay usable

on a weaker UB like Lucy

should there be a UB gauntlet

that's the question

[lost juniper]

I doubt a UB gauntlet would be made. If there would be something similar I can see it as you go through all UBs and need to clear all of them with different teams, but only once

Kinda like CSMM but with UBs

[karmic willow]

yeah

if that happens then people would get mad

rn tho

[lost juniper]

They'd be mad either way let's be real

Especially since many can't beat all of them as is, so a gauntlet would be too much

[quaint tartan]

Maybe with different level of difficulties?

Like normal / hard / super hard?

I just want a way to farm deluxe

[stuck mantle]

We get co-op guilds and same thing in guild last last co-op and ranked dc

Lg is like not happend. Since we get new content guilds. Make this and dc ranked and lg? No time for all off it. This new guilds maybe get way get delux or not hard tell wat this co-op guilds idea work. Plus if will be ranked guilds event or not. Soon we find out.

[karmic willow]

ugh

imagine

ranked guild lg

total amount of clears for all members

and then competitive people would go

"only +200 clears people allowed in the guild"

god i would seriously cry if that were to happen

[gleaming cypress]

elitism at it's finest

"don't have top 20 in a HSE? well too bad you don't meet our standards"

[raven crane]

That would be something I could easily see.

[rocky oasis]

i can def hit 200+ but

idc about other players enough to do that

[karmic willow]

who knows

there will be some if that system were to be a thing

if i were to make my own guild though

Rosa Super Fan title required

[karmic willow]

damn i'm cooked i'm only top 20 once

[worthy horizon]

every group system is guaranteed to face some level of that really

[bitter gate]

When you consider the regular 200+ people (at least those who are at least semi public)

they are either highly individualistic or literally show no signs of elitist behavior

If anything I feel more tribalistic and elitism communities will occur here than in Japan communities outside of idk, Shia's stuff

It also depends on whether "guild overlap" is a thing

as in can you be affiliated in multiple 'communities'

or are you stuck to one, etc

[worthy horizon]

i see a little bit of elitism in basically everyone including myself but when we talk about it it's the people with high levels of it that we mean

not exactly realistic to have literal 0 pride and ego

[graceful folio]

Elitism is everywhere nowadays

Having guilds is gonna 100% raise it to max peaks

[bitter gate]

Elitism in a game like this is a bit odd

Especially when you consider like, the mostly individualistic notions

[graceful folio]

In many games it is an odd thing to happen, yet here we are

People take everything so seriously nowadays

Like, it's unreal

[bitter gate]

I think tribalism disguised as elitism is more common

[graceful folio]

Possible, yeah

[bitter gate]

Elitism assumes dominance

[graceful folio]

We gotta still discover exactly how everything works but I can see things like that happening 100%

[bitter gate]

I feel more us vs them things will happen

but I guess it is tied to perceived notions of superiority

[graceful folio]

I just wanna be with friends, not asking for too much problem is there are gonna be so many guilds around I am actually gonna be on my own and not join any 😂

[dreamy warren]

I wonder if co op las could be a possibility with guilds

[graceful folio]

Cuz I get annoyed by it

And won't join any anymore

[dreamy warren]

I already know which guild I am joining

[bitter gate]

Short of extremely important rewards

Most previous games with guilds I played as a full lone wolf

lol

[dreamy warren]

hopefully the rewards are very good

5 10/5 candies per month for bare minimum rewards pls

would make a lot of the 10/5 solos more realistic for people too

[graceful folio]

I hope they aren't tbh, knowing myself already I will be getting bored of all of this day 2

[chrome halo]

The best they can do is giving 1000 sync orbs

[graceful folio]

Sounds good haha

[hallow gull]

Lovely

[stuck mantle]

It sure not will be about solo players base. Like 200 wins in lg. We be play 3 players in team like last co-op vs legendary boss like last time something like lg. But in teams how it work hard tell if will be ranked. Rewards ? If ranked should be similar like it was in lg befor i think.

Dena never give some crazy good rewards like hse we have nothing special after 200k

Just title for player if have good score its main reward

[chrome halo]

Knowing dena i should keep my standards low

So I can't be disappointed

😎

[stuck mantle]

They sure will be low. But for next update first time they should be nice.

But after for normal event will be standard dena rewards

[rocky oasis]

tbh i can see moltres coop to be way less miserble than the OG

the hard part is gonna be timing the weathers w/ 2 randos

good chance they end up stepping on your toes

[stuck mantle]

Its why this will be guild so not random players

You can choice player for guild

Since if will be ranked how you would play if random co-op players connect like was befor in this event

[lost juniper]

They'd need to completely overhaul coop if they want this to work. As it is now it's awful

[stuck mantle]

Yes

Its why is guild not co-op

Guild work you join them

And guild boss can accept or no you

[lost juniper]

Even then, if it'd work like coop it'll suck

[stuck mantle]

Yes

Since its long

Need connect

Time zone diffrence if not same country

[lost juniper]

The game isn't optimized for coop at all

[stuck mantle]

Its why maybe they change how co-op work befor

Since if its look same yes its suks

Just one fight take alot time

[gleaming cypress]

coop is insanely easy tho

i don't see why they can't just use the existing systems for these guilds or whatever

[gleaming cypress]

well they tried during the very early days it just wasn't popular

[rocky oasis]

no real way of communicating w/ people that isnt just the weird emotes

like how do you tell someone "im about to set zone"

[gleaming cypress]

right

for harder content that needs precise micro that can be a problem

[stuck mantle]

Its why top guild will have player wat use dc or other chat

Its how we speak in other game wat i play befor in guild

Chat on app

And make all info befor event wat we do

[gleaming cypress]

yeah people will just hop in call

[stuck mantle]

End we got guild chat in game

But its not like dc

[river cliff]

I don't see most people being willing to bother with that

[rocky oasis]

oh boy cosidering the kind of shit ive seen going on in guild chats

idk how that will go

ive met some real pieces of work in a ccg games guild

calling someone a b*tch? too much for the mods

grooming? ok i guess

[sturdy steeple]

There's a lot of players in masters who do not use social media. Guilds are a feature to build community between players. Even if you think you won't utilize it fully, there will be thousands who do

[rotund rain]

I know there will be preset phrases

[river cliff]

Keeping the game in the game makes the most sense

[karmic willow]

this

like

this game is LEAGUES behind when it comes to in game social interactivity

and like

the problem with elitism is that

well, the top elitism comes from the rewards

if the rewards are obtainable at a mid level

let's say, 100+ wins each

then yeah, it's not gonna cause a lot of problem

some can say "covid" but

we really needed online raids and stuff

just something as simple as

do 3 co op raid battles for orbs and rewards weekly for example would get people talking much more

in game or out of the game

dena is already uploading schedule for DAILY region rotation and Damage Challenge

when they could be updating raids

[karmic willow]

really now

then is it gonna happen among us first?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/916201677965643787/922392879945621534/received_692116938250640-1.gif

if we were to split then which factions are gonna be present in here hmmm

i hope we can have groups up to 25 at least

[gleaming cypress]

we have the Vietnamese group obviously

I probably won’t bother joining or making a guild

[bitter gate]

Guilds by nationality, guilds by content specificity

Guilds by isolated friend groups

Factors may drive incentive to "be elitist", eg banners, achievements

Or even for the simple artificiality of

"everyone here has accomplished xxx in ladder" or w/e

JP probably just follows YouTube/Twitter following or isolated friend groups

I just see more "diversity" here, but that's also a limited perspective

[karmic willow]

must have at least 500 pairs to join

must have at least 5 million total strength

must have played over 1000 days

must have at least top 100

must be Japanese

must be able to quad queue

blah blah blah

[bitter gate]

Tribalism will be more common anyhow

Being elitist in a game like this is really hard

[karmic willow]

how so?

i mean

i guess it goes for all gacha games?

[bitter gate]

It's not competitive at heart

But grain of salt

I just think any attempt to establish a metric of social superiority in a singleplayer gacha game is

[karmic willow]

with the new changes

we're moving away from just singleplayer

IF everything we just talked about come to fruition

though for me rn i think it's just gonna be

A) in game chat and groups

B) .... there's a B?

[bitter gate]

Interactivity has to be meaningful

Otherwise it's purely affiliative as a purpose

[karmic willow]

who knows

what are they gonna cook

i mean it took us almost 6 years to get something

[stuck mantle]

I was 5 year in number 1 guild in world. I now how guilds work. Manage top guilds is not simpel task. Join top guilds always will need selection and its hard choise since some players want join and get free top ranks rewards not even play this happend 3 times for us. All things are not easy as you can say rosa stan. Player need be trusted its first second they need now wat to do. This you never new for sure befor event start. Plus this game was solo game play in teams is different thing then game where guilds was from scratch. Push in guilds for top ranks take some time befor you get use too it . Trust me guilds top manage is hell in long term

[karmic willow]

i mean

i was also in a top 10 guild back in an old gacha game

contributing resources

doing battles or get kicked

it was rough having to remind everyone twice each week

[stuck mantle]

Yes i now it

Its why i say guild are not easy task manage

[true tartan]

what the hell is going on here lol

[dawn plume]

speculation

[rocky oasis]

huh they added shiny grimer in

[true tartan]

shiny grimer has been in the game for a good time lol

I think it was added when it was introduced

[karmic willow]

yeah

shiny grimer was there for a long time

thank god i finally got it now

still no tentacruel

sadge

[rocky oasis]

huh this is my first one

[karmic willow]

@true tartan what does tech tentacruel do again?

[rocky oasis]

toxic

regen

[true tartan]

techtacruel

[rocky oasis]

+4 speed

[rocky oasis]

acid

[inner turret]

you know you can just check pomatools

[rocky oasis]

so just gauge battery w/ toxic

[worthy horizon]

what even wants +6 spa besides ssa cynthia and ss misty

v sawyer, lodge lana

koga

[inner turret]

giovanni

[worthy horizon]

right right

[shy notch]

1/5 Lance if that counts

Viola

[karmic willow]

right

so i HAVE to get it

smh

[worthy horizon]

there's 10 other +6 spa eggs though but some will def prefer to run tech

[karmic willow]

to me though

the best thing to come out of the selection was

sup onix

[river cliff]

I'd prefer more +6 atkers, most of them are more valuable as techs a lot of the time

[river cliff]

Like, the only +6 atk eggmons we have that don't ever have better options are Nidoking and Hitmonchan, but on the recipient side we have Nanu, Bertha, Janine, Mallow, DC Gladion, Lodge Elesa, and Colress, with Lucy and Grant also needing crit. There are probably some I forgot.

[vital ibex]

dc gladion also needs crit

[kind imp]

Barry

or +3 with ramp up
And SS leaf too I guess

[shy notch]

Hmm not sure if this is possible at 3 EXR. Would’ve made it to bar 3 if my sync actually crit. Nothing that 45% DR from skill gears can’t fix

[rocky oasis]

gl

[rocky oasis]

i run mad strenght ondc gladion by default anyways

so a +6 egg just lets me run vigilance

[dreamy warren]

1 more day...(for my timezones)

[bitter gate]

Could be today assuming they want to pre-emptively slide it in but I doubt so

[dreamy warren]

lounge will go crazy if mine is today

[shy sinew]

bestie lounge would go crazy whatever day datamine is

[dawn plume]

lounge unusable on datamine day

[shy sinew]

just on datamine day?

[karmic willow]

Yeah

Like

Imagine elaine having that for moltres

[dreamy warren]

Either this rest of the next....

[tender horizon]

[hollow ether]

Ahh come on uxie, did you have hidden piercing gaze on last half bar 😂

With 1/5 0/20 btw

[true tartan]

coinflips

[rocky oasis]

debuff mitigation sucks 🙂

iirc uxies at 5 for all of them

gl

if -6 acc is the same as +6 eva

then uxie should be missing 25% of the time?

which is just annoying

[true tartan]

no...

evasion/acc bonus caps at 50%

[rocky oasis]

even w/ mitigation?

ok i didnt see the eva buffs on raihan

Huh so more like 50%

i assume -6 acc on uxie is 25%ish tho? seems about right from my boring ass gladion solo attempts

[true tartan]

it caps at 50%

-6 acc mit 5 with +3 eva is virtual +6 eva

if +6 eva and -6 acc, still 50%

[shy notch]

Guess the SA solos will slow down

[shy sinew]

Snow isn’t a serious player?!

[stuck mantle]

He never play lg

Or others event top100

[shy sinew]

I’d still say doing LA solos is somewhat serious

[stuck mantle]

This you can do any free time

[shy sinew]

especially at the level of investment superawakening requires

[stuck mantle]

Events you need play on shelude time

20 units its alot invest

I never get why he never play lg

Its kinda strange

Did many solos have alot units

But maybe he only good in solo when make 2/3 units team would be wors for him then just solo? Hard tell but sure its some reason why he never play

[inner turret]

he does it for fun

he doesn't tryhard anything

there are solos that he knows are possible but doesn't want to even try once because he doesn't like how it would go lol

For example he refuses to do Emmet Moltres despite being somewhat obviously possible with SA lol

[shy notch]

Maybe he doesn’t like solos that are “unreliable”. He’s definitely willing to do high RNG solos like Iono Moltres (14 potions) but there was also strategy to it like using dauntless

[tender crater]

still no one doing Atticus Coba hmm

[stuck mantle]

Snow did many crazy solo

Im not sure about word do for fun? Most off his take alot time. And some was crazy hard not sure if i say they easy.

Gauntlet you could do for fun too many score 100+ even use 3 units and did it easy way also. And did it on first day.

[sturdy steeple]

everyone has fun in different ways. your definition of fun differs from others.

[true tartan]

like to do solos does not equate on liking LG

or well, like to go high streaking lol

doing solos with the units you like is just fun

[karmic willow]

ya

no time pressure

i find it more fun to turn tough solos into duos

like ss steven with sup lickitung to duo torn

[stuck mantle]

Any way he have reason why he never play:) interesting if he join some japan top guilds snow and luri🧐 in one guild

[true tartan]

[raven crane]

It stresses me out to think about planning that far.

But doing solos or duos in my free time (or for content) is fun.

[shy notch]

I feel LG should let you reset individual battles just like HSE does

[true tartan]

for me is "a waste of time" to invest on getting that high because I have stuff to do... I just climb as I get time to do so

usually, play around lunch time while waiting for food/cooking, waiting in a queue (yeah, I play poma outdoors when I'm waiting ) or before sleeping

but LG is mostly a time I get to seek new solos, that's what makes it fun for me...

(except the possibilities have been reduced each iteration for obvious reasons lol)

[karmic willow]

agreed

reset by batches of 3

[stuck mantle]

Maybe in guilds we get something like this

[true tartan]

stop speculating guilds for now lol

[stuck mantle]

In 5 days should be datamine

[true tartan]

it should be "today"

[stuck mantle]

Datamine?

[true tartan]

yes

[stuck mantle]

No

Since when we finish event gems rewards we always got it

This was like last months same

And its end in 5 reset

[true tartan]

there's a possibility of SS Blue solo on Registeel if you're interested

just run MG2 and hope for the best

[graceful folio]

Too much hype around guilds imo, I don't expect anything big to happen, just a small thing, easy missions for orbs, titles and such and that's it

Just mainly a way to bond with other players

I would keep expectations extremely low just to not get disappointed after

[karmic willow]

naomi said the same thing

i'm still trying to wrap my head around how to NOT get paralyzed lol

unlucky

[true tartan]

you'll get paralyzed

thing is to rely a lot on freevenge + WP I guess

[karmic willow]

WP?

[true tartan]

water pulse

HC for freevenges, WP for accelerating the turns

[karmic willow]

i mean i DID the raikou solo so

i think i know what i'm getting myself into

i'll do it when i feel like it

that means a buttload of reset for gears lol

[sturdy steeple]

Resetting registeel to not get paralyzed sucks so much

[karmic willow]

i swear it has HE19

not 1

not 9 not 10

19

lol

[lost juniper]

Registeel paralysis is one of the worst things about it

It can drive you crazy

[karmic willow]

i gave it 5 attempts today

will give it a few more in the coming days

[heavy sinew]

no more money rip

[shy sinew]

even with money it’s not like going woke is a super abundant resource at the moment, snow must’ve had a pretty good stockpile going into the update but as is the case with any finite resource stockpile it will eventually run out

[karmic willow]

Sorry folks

This is my closest attempt yet

Like if only mind games worked a little bit harder or that i somehow get an abundance of X def mpr (you need 3)

It gained def stats like crazy til the end

I was struggling to keep up

Will try again tmr

[rocky oasis]

gl

[stuck mantle]

Good luck rosa stan. Blue Sa rare view.

[karmic willow]

He is quite a fun one

I picked him because uhhhh, he can be a nice replacement tank for some ub battles

Teams that you can use rain with

I have him with v.lyra and any third for battles

It is not a strong engine by any means but

Eh, it is workable

Kinda sucks v.lyra does not have any role cake yet

She needs it fr fr

Give her support and she be tanking so much more

[stuck mantle]

When they add ball guy rerun solo banner no exr mean no chance they give old exr

If they want do it would done long ago

They not only need exr but 5/5 grids

And Sa as well most off old v holiday itc seasonal

[rocky oasis]

tbh we are running out of exr

for pf

gonna see what happens next update

[shy notch]

The custom lucky cookies for seasonals (especially F Caitlin’s) gives me some hope they can get a proper upgrade

[stuck mantle]

Not sure why dena wait this long

They first should get exr 5/5 and Sa not pokefairs

[shy notch]

Some of them desperately need it. Looking at you Summer Lyra

[stuck mantle]

Fubert most need it

Master fairs like archie maxie steven would need it too

[shy notch]

F Hilbert is a product of his time. He was pretty good back then at least. Won’t be long before we get more MF expansions

[true tartan]

is... "a decent" dark hitter but that's it

[shy notch]

His passives (Carry on 1 and Spur on 4) were kinda good for full force battles. Ramming Speed at 1/5 is also nice

[kind imp]

Full force and villa

[stuck mantle]

Back then. Now alot old need big boost. Plus give more sa candy in others banner like mf or arc. Since they are annoing limited

[shy notch]

It sucks that the rewards for paid arc fair banners were upgraded compared to master fairs, but rewards for standard arc fair banners are the same

[stuck mantle]

Yeap and also why pokefairs reruns dont have sa candy?

Kinda look lame for me

[true tartan]

right now I'm like...

"if Olivia got Latios, can F Hilbert do it?"

buuut he lowers its sp def so nope

he has first aid tho

[pearl pawn]

why the heck does he get griddy 5

[inner turret]

because he got quick feet

which is technically outrun in masters but who cares about technicalities

[pearl pawn]

lel

[kind imp]

His tm also buffs speed by +6 if he's statused

[pearl pawn]

I did not know that

[kind imp]

It was for the stage of his event iirc

And sm.lyra tm doubles it's effects and heals her by 40% if she's asleep
And pal dawn has team wide awake
Both idr why

[true tartan]

[kind imp]

ah

[pearl pawn]

I geniunely dont know who inflicts sleep other than leons battle

[lost juniper]

Cyrus in that one story VA battle

[kind imp]

There was a Kalos ebe with Serena that did

Looking at old innates
They could give healing hand to more things

[dreamy warren]

probably today we will get to see if lg is back

[wise raven]

[shy notch]

I’ll get this eventually

[true tartan]

don't want to suffer with me with the lusa solo?

[shy notch]

One suffering at a time

Gonna be some time before I have spare 5* PUs anyway

[heavy sinew]

Is this the latias treatment?

Oh god

wouldnt discombobulate work?

[lost juniper]

It's worse

[heavy sinew]

oh GOD

[dawn plume]

jebaited

[dreamy warren]

no mine today

3 more days

[stuck mantle]

Told in 5 days

Def not today lol

Datamine

[pearl beacon]

[median swan]

me and my 35 deluxe cookies are on their last breath please dena

[inner turret]

[karmic willow]

no lg for us 😦

sadge

i hope datamine comes

[bitter gate]

Palmer be beating fraud allegations

do more

[true tartan]

what allegations lol

[bitter gate]

Crush Grip problems

He's missing what

Cress/Latias

[true tartan]

if he had like 5 solos... I'd say sure

[bitter gate]

and Moltres

[true tartan]

but dude had 10 before this one lol

[bitter gate]

he's a fraud elsewhere

No DC for him

[true tartan]

crush grip does have problems for sure, but still deals decent damage despite that big drawback lol

normal DC would've make him shine yep

[bitter gate]

it's particularly good for LG because assuming no real gimmick stresses he

usually just chunks whole bars

I think Latias is doable...ish?

[true tartan]

problem with Latias...

is that it can just say "no" to your huge damage lol

and make it be 0

[bitter gate]

yeah you need like

really good timing

[true tartan]

don't get slippery sloped

[bitter gate]

you need to figure out how your defense debuffs

and max slip up

vs bar 2

can you oneshot bar 2 with max + sync or something

before the second threshold

[true tartan]

he can lower def to -6 quite fast with tiles and b move

[bitter gate]

maybe try Mind games

and see if it helps

for fast kills

Also if only if Palmer had Piercing Gaze

Maybe Cress could be doable, ish

[inner turret]

Funnily enough I have no shot at Moltres because I'm too strong

I have a stupid idea that could work but it involves a shitload of combo freebie so I don't want to try that yet

The idea is to kill bar 1 with a crush grip, but not before syncing once, so I have +3 PMUN on following grips

[dreamy warren]

what skill gear?

[dreamy warren]

huh, it's not very cracked

gratz

[tender horizon]

Boooo

[inner turret]

https://youtu.be/RaHdX4xtcoY

[gleaming cypress]

wtf cleaning a whole bar with one crush grip

[karmic willow]

CRUSH

CRUSH

Hand of doom

[rocky oasis]

PMUN +3 is great yeah

palmer in general hits like a fucking truck

even at 1/5 he is doing decent numbers

his b move deletes shit so fucking fast

[raven crane]

Palmer more like father figure.

[dreamy warren]

he wasn't there for most of barry's life tho /j

[shy sinew]

well I didn’t get a shiny Arbok but I got a 3 passive version of each role at least

[raven crane]

Lmfao makes sense that would be automodded.

[dreamy warren]

I was pinged?

[shy sinew]

maybe by the message that got automodded

[pliant glen]

10 Eggs left, still missing 3 passive Support. Just got this today.

[shy notch]

First step crafting skill gear for Adaman. I’m leaning towards locking Grass over Sinnoh so other sync pairs can take advantage of it, but might not be needed

The attack stat is terrible but flying Dr is welcome

[true tartan]

does anyone have a maxed out Fall Hilbert

[rocky oasis]

mine is 2/5 unfortunately

i cant imagine 3/5 is that much better

only thing he gets is sync nodes

[true tartan]

5/5 may enable Latios solo

[pearl pawn]

?

[true tartan]

Stalwart LS

Pin with HP-Sp. Def-Speed

remember Salamence lowers the attack by -1, so you need X Attack to max it out for Haymaker

[pearl pawn]

Ah

When are we getting the mind brace ls

[true tartan]

haha... just need to find 1 person wtih a maxed hilbert that's willing to do this lol

with this grid, Hilbert reaches 975 HP, a decent gear would give him near 1.1K lol

or 1135 if 160

[shy sinew]

yeah no I have enough candies for this but definitely more impactful targets unfortunately

[true tartan]

of course, many people I know have the resources too, but is not a good investment lol

just looking for any Hilbert fan haha

[vital ibex]

I used to know a guy who had 5/5 furbert cuz he was a poochyena line fan

But im p sure he stopped playing masters

[karmic willow]

Interesting

Why no insult to injury?

[vital ibex]

with the 20% chance to lower defense per target? lol

better to take ramming speed which you know you can max

[quaint tartan]

I do ?

[pearl pawn]

the latios prophecy

[true tartan]

lol nice

now are you willing to 150 +10?

[quaint tartan]

On next monthly reset yes

Spent all my orbs for dc

[true tartan]

aight

will get a reference for it... a friend was trying at 4/5

but kept commenting that 5/5 makes it a bigger improvement

because of the extra energy for the grid

[true tartan]

wrong channel

[pliant glen]

I keep doing this by accident lol

[dawn plume]

same

i didnt see what you posted but i just know

[true tartan]

since no one bothered to do this one... I retried it

https://youtu.be/n6Tz964E9_0

Sharpedo mega evolved an literally evaded all moves

(12* in total)

[gleaming cypress]

didn't even need the endure lmao

[dawn plume]

i know @vital ibex was trying it lol

the struggle is over

lisia grid this reset YIPPEE

[vital ibex]

yea i gave up lol

even with +10e that shit was difficult

you need dummy dodge luck

but thus is the way of grimsley

[chrome halo]

today is 25th already?

wow time sure flies fast

[true tartan]

I got the idea on how to do it by accident

as Grimsley liked to miss crits

I noticed that stalling in bar 1 was better than trying to rush bar 2

[true tartan]

so, who'll "update" Lisia's clear on Latios?

should be way easier now... mine is 0/2 :T

[bitter gate]

If no one does it before I go off work

Probably me

[chrome halo]

Finally after years of waiting

I finally have 3 bar sup Ekans

Idc if it is non shiny

[worthy horizon]

i lucked into 3 bar support tentacool on my 5th last egg

was close to having no support tenta at all

[true tartan]

and lowered Lisia lol

0/20 140

[bitter gate]

So did Lisia do more or no

[worthy horizon]

rednhoho got bulu

[bitter gate]

Time to test Raikou Azelf I guess

[gleaming cypress]

did anni n get anything new

[median swan]

yeah https://youtu.be/ngsoUrv-k_8

[bitter gate]

Lisia's other solos are extremely hard if not impossible for the sole reason that she didn't get GE on her tiles

unfort

Entei is ironically the most likely solo for her

but it requires a miss on Fire Spin, I think

[rocky oasis]

finally n gets his buff

and idk what to make of it

mmine is staying 3/5 tho

[hollow ether]

finally did it lowering to 1/5 0/20 https://youtu.be/wTOO0A_uXIg

[vital ibex]

I FORGOT N GETS HIS EXR TODAY

FINALLY

[karmic willow]

How far can sp atk eggmon take her?

I mean, didn't tentacruel do that?

[bitter gate]

I mean, if she has an eggmon she can do all of it, easy

especially since it no longer needs to be a crit eggmon

so it mostly makes for a lot simpler eggmon duos

[dreamy warren]

Eggmons will suffer the most if lg is gone

they will lose their biggest (and perhaps only) use

[bitter gate]

its the solos that are an issue

[shy sinew]

well I have enough lollipops now for an entire 10/5 but not really sure what to go for, might just hold and look at next month’s pairs before committing it for something gauntlet related: Rika looks somewhat interesting to me, as do Penny, Iono, Volo, and SS Brendan

ooh or SS May

[dreamy warren]

since you are interested in the next hse imo you should wait to see the stages of the next hse and see what pf will be the best there

[shy sinew]

my only options that I can spend for that would be Rika and Iono lol

also have Cynthia but that would be a one-time investment and I kinda want to get more longevity out of a superawakening investment

[rocky oasis]

wait for datamine

lol

[pearl beacon]

Pray for datamine

[rocky oasis]

on monday i guess

[stuck mantle]

Should be Tuesday

[dawn plume]

from rednhoho video damn her sync lowkey hitting now with only +2 sp atk

[stuck mantle]

1%

😂

[bitter gate]

Not strong enough for other places

[karmic willow]

Grand entry 2 holy

[dawn plume]

with grand entry she can max yeah

[bitter gate]

He wasn't even running GE was he

[dawn plume]

no

fast track

[true tartan]

nah, FT is quite mandatory lol

[bitter gate]

Like they could've replaced Sterner Stuff with Witty Hit GE Ramp Up

Idk why they did that

Oh well

[true tartan]

that sterner stuff is good for the bulu solo lol

[bitter gate]

I guess?

[upper lance]

How good is 6ex Marshal ?

[rocky oasis]

mediocre

[shy sinew]

it's a strike ex so basically nothing changes

[rocky oasis]

ex makes latios easier

tgats it

[karmic willow]

Mid

Just get him to 20/20 and leave him there

[karmic willow]

Wow

He got torn

I am impressed

[worthy horizon]

how much better is torn than latias

can use piercing gaze but maybe it's costly

[lost juniper]

Latias is an issue because Bar 2 spams dragon moves

And the sync is dragon type

[worthy horizon]

ah

[rocky oasis]

idk if anni n can burst down registeel and cress

i think latias is a given?

or not

[inner turret]

Gilad said he will do Latias

Or at least try, but it should be possible

[rocky oasis]

entei is def happening i think

[true tartan]

can't see any other solos happening... threw some attempts on all

[dawn plume]

idk if latias is possible lol he’s dragon weak

[lost juniper]

When I get strike EX R and 2 candies maybe but I doubt Latias is happening

[dawn plume]

one of three dragon weak sync pairs in the game

[inner turret]

I know clair is one

Is Base N the 3rd?

[dawn plume]

yes lol

[lost juniper]

Yeah

[inner turret]

Lul

[dawn plume]

idk why they refuse to make more dragon weak sync pairs

[worthy horizon]

big inconvenience to them when the only type weak to dragon is itself and most dragon weak opponents also have dragon moves

just didn't wanna curse them, though n and anni n are at least an entirely different attacking type

[true tartan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/960306675473084426/1332917832177946676/Screenshot_2025-01-25-22-39-17-919_com.google.android.apps.nbu.files.jpg?ex=6796fff7&is=6795ae77&hm=786e3c47a539fece566f74bd6a1bd40e95aeb24173143e4ebab32b4699375074&

quite fun huh

[true tartan]

it is possible btw, RNG hell in bar 3, but possible

got to 25% now

[true tartan]

https://youtu.be/MzVHPUkoyJk

turtle... strong...

or well, tortoise

very simple run too

just don't get poisoned lol

(or flinched)

[karmic willow]

@lost juniper how do you plan to do the anni n solo on latias?

healthy healing?

[lost juniper]

I honestly don't think it's possible

Too many dragon moves in Bar 2, and Bar 3 is also bad

[karmic willow]

i mean if you have a support then

it's kind of easy to assume that you can

uhhhhh

kill bar 2 throughout

but yeah

soloing is tough

even with proper half bar shinnanigans

[lost juniper]

I think Azelf might be doable though. And maybe Registeel. Both would require insanely good skill gears

[karmic willow]

how cheap of an eggmon do we need tho>

[rocky oasis]

dewgong

[worthy horizon]

no shot of nuking bar 2?

[lost juniper]

How you survive on Bar 3

[worthy horizon]

dunno but i'd expect it to be his best shot of surviving or getting far

if the dragon moves are that much of an issue

ofc i have no way of knowing exactly what it looks like

[lost juniper]

Anni N has good damage but no ability to increase his bulk or survivability

Latias also has a lot of HP making it even worse

If you could use 2 lucky skills at once I think he could've soloed but alas he can't

[true tartan]

alright, updated version with some revisions on first-clears up to "now"

[tender horizon]

= Total how many hours wasted

[true tartan]

indeed

[karmic willow]

eyy

think i was the 240th on raikou

the anni N one was 241

[karmic willow]

mela feels lame

like i know somebody said it before but

she takes so many steps to be close to what ss hilda can do

[lost juniper]

This is pretty much exactly the reason I'm skipping her. Why would I need her when Hilda does what she does but better

Only thing Hilda lacks compared to her is burst damage, since Mela's B-move can be pretty impressive but its downside of needing to reduce defenses is bad

[shy sinew]

I'll probably invest in Mela eventually for her theme but otherwise she'll just be another duo pair for me

[pearl pawn]

Cresselia has that many solos and yet moltres is the one that is ran

[sturdy steeple]

Cresselia would be just as or even more miserable in an LG setting

[sturdy steeple]

Needing to waste the b moves early is very cringe

[shy notch]

You could try to save the b moves when using her in a team, but even then it’s a hassle. She wants to be with a “selfish” support that can only buff their own defenses

[inner turret]

so, chase or alt elio lol

[true tartan]

such rare cases, but Chase works quite well

[shy notch]

Yes I had Chase in mind

I think her true best partner would be someone who has take all effect. Not SSA Gio tho

[true tartan]

just wait for new units to come

that really opens up that possibility

[lost juniper]

Wait for new arc suits

[dawn plume]

find out with datamine tonight

[sturdy steeple]

My least favorite kind of supports

Unless your name is arven

[pearl beacon]

Lg + a new la stage

[vital ibex]

i'm praying for no arc N and no pal arven

i need one (1) saving month

[dawn plume]

pal arven seems VERY likely

which will forfeit my gems

[vital ibex]

[shy sinew]

I would fold so hard for pal arven dena would make his outfit so good

anyways apparently I've done a single solo since November even though I told myself I would get cooking on replicating solos in the LG downtime

[karmic willow]

I pulled her for fire hse (she will be usable trust)

And also

Mega Man

Armarogue

One of the only few times i went out of my way for a pair in recent memory

Last time was Sina

[dawn plume]

palentines is a baking event nonzero chance we get katy next month

she would be pokefair of course

why would she not be

[shy sinew]

paldean characters do in fact have an allergy to the spotlight!

[brisk sapphire]

Perfect time to also release Ortega for the Academy since his pokemon looks like a bread

Going with the full baking theme on this one

[dawn plume]

the other pal character will be. flannery or something idk

give hoenn some breadcrumbs

[brisk sapphire]

Pal May

[dawn plume]

i mean.........

she hasnt gotten an alt in a while.......

[brisk sapphire]

When was her last alt even

2023?

[dawn plume]

2022

[brisk sapphire]

Oh wait ye

Nemona was 2023

[shy sinew]

May's last alt was her lodge technically

[dawn plume]

technically yeah

she was one of the starting lodge units

[shy sinew]

so August 2022

[dawn plume]

i think she and blue are the only starting lodge characters to not have an alt artwork in the scrapbook

[chrome halo]

They added Lodge Arven out of nowhere so the chance of him getting an alt next month is very high

[chrome halo]

Dawn in shambles

[bitter gate]

We have a lot of Paldean bakers in line

Katy, Ortega

and Arven

makes for a good aggregate Palentine's Arc

but I thought Katy would come last year and she dind't

[chrome halo]

She is quite popular in Japan methinks?

[kind imp]

serena too

they made master fair serena 2

now make pal serena 2

tbh she should get a pokefair alt, she has none

[shy sinew]

hm real, see she didn't come to mind for me because I'm Hoenn-pilled

[bitter gate]

If they don't make Katy voiced by Kikuko Inoue I'll riot

[karmic willow]

Imagine Pal Rosa

My wallet...

[pearl beacon]

Pal erika

But Palentine Paldeans sound cool, they'll probably avoid Iono but
Arven seems fitting for the cooking thing

[karmic willow]

If iono gets it

She speedrunning alts like lillie

[pearl beacon]

Damn yea, lodge+alts
Dena profiting

[dawn plume]

didn't huff the copium enough

we'll get em next time

[bitter gate]

It's probably on the 29th

On CNY day lol

I follow the two day before EoM

[dawn plume]

a whole week of nothing seems unlikely

they’ll probably drop it tomorrow or Wednesday for an event on friday

[pearl beacon]

No lg for months and delayed update
Better be worth

[karmic willow]

I REALLY hope i don't have to use this

One egg left

Wish me luck guys

[rocky oasis]

rip

[pearl beacon]

I got at least 2 shiny of each species... except tentacool

Damn dena

[true tartan]

I got Tentacool... missed Grimer sadly

got spare Onix and Kabuto...

[karmic willow]

Ugh

In the case rhat i have to

You bet it is gonna be a quick enabler

As in

Pair with someone really busted

Like ss red

Oh wait nvm he ain't skipping half bars

[dawn plume]

i only got a 1 passive tech for tentacool too but i got the shiny support

thankfully its other passives arent too impactful

[lost juniper]

I also got a 1 passive tech tentacool. Probably will be useful on Uxie/Cobalion and pretty much them only

[pliant glen]

I'm convinced Shiny Grimer doesn't exist 💀 also not even a 3 passive Support Tentacruel

[tender horizon]

i got a shiny grimer

i got many shinies this time around but im too lazy to be rerolling lucky skills for them

dont even have enough Vigilance cookies

[hollow ether]

Is it true there will be Pal Skyla with Electric mons from Elesa? :/

[pearl pawn]

Fan made

[river cliff]

In Thundurus we trust

[shy notch]

Would be a good fit, so probably not since DeNa likes to be unpredictable

[dawn plume]

not real, it was a mockup made by someone on reddit

[karmic willow]

you came from reddit right?

[hollow ether]

Ahh i see, i kinda not familiar with reddit since i never open it

And can't open it as well, i think my country block it

But kinda make sense in the future that Skyla will get palentine alt., same case as Wallace & Lisia at NY event

[hollow ether]

Saw in subreddit channel

[karmic willow]

ic XD

[karmic willow]

yeah, honestly it might happen

[hollow ether]

But i have feeling Arven will get alt this palentine event, collab with Victor

[shy sinew]

Victor twice in a row would be something

[hollow ether]

Pal Arven with Garganacl / Toedscruel will be huge

[dawn plume]

scovillain

hot pepper gaming

[pearl beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/toedscool-pokemon-scarlet-violet-running-gif-27666827

[pearl beacon]

Toedscool, I'll do the tiered scout for the running boi

[pearl pawn]

Me too

[heavy sinew]

EOS inbound

[hollow ether]

Ok no datamine again

[dawn plume]

yup

kinda figured when no app icon tweet 2 hrs ago

has to be tomorrow then

[bitter gate]

More or less is tmr yea, except it's freaking CNY tmr, kek

[dawn plume]

japan doesnt really celebrate that so dena dont care

[bitter gate]

ik, it's just a pain in the ass for me to do processing during that time, lol

[pearl beacon]

PAIN

[shy notch]

Lol I technically lowered Nate’s Latios solo to 3/5, but I played so badly and was just bailed out by everything missing. Gonna try to do it again with better timing