Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

[bitter gate]

Like you barely get to use it is my issue, whether it actually stops him is a different story

But yeah, he should get a comfortable 11/12? 13 if fsr he gets torn?

Egg on my face

[true tartan]

[bitter gate]

Milo beating fraud allegations again?

[bright brook]

i aint never doing this again.

[bitter gate]

Do cob next, I guess? Latias?

Like if you can do torn cob is definitely doable

[bright brook]

keep suggesting...

because both of them are done

[bitter gate]

Ehh?

Already?

[bright brook]

ye

[bitter gate]

I'm just checking the list and they aren't there yet

So latias cob torn done

Registeel?

[bright brook]

because im being a lazy ass and havent uploaded them yet

they have been done a few days ago

[bitter gate]

Registeel with MG should be fine, I reckon?

Or is that not done yet

[bright brook]

yea i thought so too, I was saving registeel for last because I literally have like 30 bronze deluxe cookie to try and get MG2

[bitter gate]

You can probs do without it

But requires more rng I think.

[bright brook]

would be a last resort

[bitter gate]

Then azelf uxie

Idt he can do terrakion

Or can he

[bright brook]

azelf's done

let me see

[rocky oasis]

uxie is obnoxious

[bitter gate]

He has status + max

Idt it's too harsh for uxie

[rocky oasis]

possible but annoying lol

[bright brook]

cress, uxie, moltres, terrakion and registeel left

[bitter gate]

In theory he can do all except cress and Moltres

Terrakion I feel is not impossible

But needs very good timing or something

[gleaming cypress]

potion mpr simulator ?

[bitter gate]

Bar 2 burst into fast bar 3

[bitter gate]

More or less lol

[bright brook]

i think terrakion may be possible but you have to stack like so many buffs

then do max + sync for bar 2.5 and 3

[bitter gate]

Or have like

[bright brook]

milo does have really good attack stats

[bitter gate]

10/5

[bright brook]

his sync does like half the HP bar in late game

[bitter gate]

Is yours 4/5 or what

[bitter gate]

Probably just kills it

[bright brook]

thing is his healing is like so bad....

[bitter gate]

Anabel can nearly oneshot bars with no crit

But yeah

His issue is that he's just not tailored long

He has good midrange

But he sucks long maint wise

[bright brook]

isnt made to stay for long, and doesnt have offensive debuffs.

im checking all of his solo footage on my phone and each and every single one of it is like hours and hours of resetting

[bitter gate]

Same thing with my Skyla cob stuff lol

[bright brook]

😭

Alr got mind games 2 thankfully

[bitter gate]

So I guess his final kill count is 9

I assume yours is 4/5?

Or did you get him higher

[rocky oasis]

weirdly enough im suprised morgan doesnt have latias w/ a grid liek this

whoops accidentally sent a extra image

[true tartan]

squirrel

[rocky oasis]

yes certified nyc chonker

Kept chubby by tourists

does anyone w/ 3/5 morgan wanna torture themselves vs latias. def crush LS

[bright brook]

should be 10

[bright brook]

been trying this for a a long time

to no avail

was close tho

[rocky oasis]

+6 might be the difference she needs

idk

mine is stuck at 1/5

[bright brook]

her having little to no spdef really makes bar 3 a struggle

and thats not taking account the slippery slope gacha

i think i was running wise entry 2

[rocky oasis]

what grid

team bracing infliction probably helps quite a bit

even if you could technically do it w/on

[bright brook]

let me check it was so long ago

it was def crush 2 not wise entry 2 my b

+4 E

[rocky oasis]

huh

+6 lets her grab potion mpr

[bright brook]

yea but i decided on vigil

[rocky oasis]

not sure which one is more valuable

[bright brook]

vigilance

like she heals if u spam attacks

she doesnt rely on potions to heal but rather, restoring strike 2

wheares a crit pretty much would end the run

[rocky oasis]

fair

gl

i aint getting morgan 3/5 for a long ass time

[bright brook]

it's still like a very very difficult clear...

in bar 1 u have to dodge flinches and debuffs

then evasions gaming in bar 2

then an icy wind does like 30% to her each time in bar 3....

she can tank one stored power with protect but, if shes not fast enough, she may die to the second one...

[stuck mantle]

For torn solo milo 4/5? is good

I pick him today🤣 after bugsy

[bright brook]

he is 100% not 4/5....

4/5 barely solos like...raikou

[stuck mantle]

Lol need 10/5?

[rocky oasis]

milo feels like a glorified genpool unit

idk why

[bright brook]

[stuck mantle]

Expensive pref spend my super candy on Steven when he arive

[rocky oasis]

apparently he needs 10/5 to start feeling like a proper PF support

[bright brook]

a bad one

[stuck mantle]

Then make dena give each copy candy too

Then i can get them easy🤣

But even 10/5 he still need pots mpr?

[rocky oasis]

a 3/5 pf support

for 5/5 you expect some luxury options

[stuck mantle]

Haha luxury is get him 5/5🤣

But sad he need superawakening for his solos

Not for me if dena give easy way get this stupid candy maybe some day he will be 10/5 for now he stay 4/5 maybe forever😄

[rocky oasis]

there is that 5k paid candy banner

kantrio one

[bitter gate]

Wait so how invested is your Milo again?

[bright brook]

the newer ones are SA

you guys overestimated his power

even with SA he is bad

yea he aint soloing terrakion....

10 it is then, uploading shortly

oh wait uxie left

[stuck mantle]

For leaf banner i hit it

Rest lol i have 5/5 not realy need extra gold power ups

[rocky oasis]

you always need more tech candy

[stuck mantle]

I want leaf copys too

[rocky oasis]

mine is 3/5 unfrotunately

spent the CS ticket on ss red before 5/5 grids were a thing

[stuck mantle]

I spend on blue ticket

Sad dena now don’t give this choise tickets like befor

[rocky oasis]

i got alder off one

[stuck mantle]

Sorry for ping stdk but i have one question since you now all🤣 wat skill gear is better 80 attack 7% bonus or 65 attack 11% bonus. Thanks for reaply😏

[tender horizon]

[worthy horizon]

you can make a copy of this sheet from pykuo https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10MdDlSplYgDo_yIMfHpsc3FRvWQcfy080bTMThvPF24/edit?gid=196006377#gid=196006377

[stuck mantle]

Ok thanks

[bright brook]

Bản sao của Skill Gear Comparsion Tool

[tender horizon]

Bản sao của Skill Gear Comparsion Tool

[tender horizon]

I think you have to calculate based on your sync pair, but for mine usually the attack stat difference is equal to like 3% extra damage, so any attack bonus thats above that is better

If sync pair A has attack 565 from the skill gear that gives 65, then +15 attack will be = 15/565 = 2.65% more

[stuck mantle]

Too complicated for me🤣

I roll just 80 and more bonus haha

Was more simpel then count it🤣

[bitter gate]

does bugsy only have one solo atm or what

[tender horizon]

Certainly not

Cresselia cant be his only solo

[stuck mantle]

Cmoon should hit since its his best boy

Maybe not time

Eeveemath did azelf cress tapu and latias

[worthy horizon]

shouldn't be incapable of 11/14, dunno if he's pushing through regirock with rock weak

coba has a shot to wall

[stuck mantle]

Only he record tapu for now

Reggi is bad for him he special bugsy

No low sts

Rock weak

[lost juniper]

Registeel probably

If she got Uxie then Registeel is a possibility

[bitter gate]

I think he can do regi, but he needs a lot of mpr and frontloaded stats

[worthy horizon]

i feel like torn would be easier

[stuck mantle]

Bugsy torn lol?

Bar 2 fly

[worthy horizon]

easy -6 spa and actually deals some mixed damage to help through the first two bars

[bitter gate]

I think people overestimate just how many Leech Lifes Bugsy gets to use

He can barely fill out one cycle's worth over two circles

[worthy horizon]

it's 4 per circle right

[bitter gate]

Before he goes back to struggle bug poke and loses a lot of his point of power

3-4

But realistically 4

[worthy horizon]

easier doesn't mean easy

[bitter gate]

I'd say regirock is definitely easier than torn simply because of what you can do via fishing

But I guess I underestimate regi

[pearl beacon]

I'll finish the doc, one day

[pearl beacon]

aaaaa milo gaming

[worthy horizon]

yeah regirock's just historically been a big wall to debuff units, klara needing 6/5 for regirock and 5/5 for torn is a prime example

compounded with a rock weakness

[bitter gate]

You also see stuff like Lana and NY Lillie do it

So it does make me wonder

[worthy horizon]

infinite leech life is quite different from 8

[bitter gate]

But ny lillie doesn't afford gauge either and is forced to run vigilance

While Bugsy at least still has his TM backup

And some protection

And can tech imperv for bar 2

Granted if he could do cress I think he fairly comfortably does everything else short of torn and Moltres

Cobalion is kind of an idk?

[worthy horizon]

yeah

[bitter gate]

Like, in theory he should be able to but

It'll take stupidly long and he'll exhaust

So it hinges on the mpr ish

[pearl beacon]

I was right questioning about the timing of that bmove, looks way too longn

[bitter gate]

If you add Regen on top of that animation it's even worse

This is why I suspected he wouldn't even do as much solos as Lillie

And at the very least, Lillie is much more reliable with her solos from what I've seen

[stuck mantle]

His b move is on circle use

And you have no extend on grid

This is bad

[tender horizon]

Oh he dont got extend? Bad unit

His bug zone is the best feature if u ask me

[stuck mantle]

If this was on bug zone would be better since he have extention

[bitter gate]

yes and no, since he can't control his BZ

but he can control his circles

and you don't want to spam it early

if his zone extension were a circle extension instead he'd be noticeably better imo

[dawn plume]

he should really only have zone lol he doesnt synergize well with other johto pairs at all

[raven crane]

Circles are great even if you don't use them with other allies of the same region.

[copper helm]

What’s the verdict on H-Bugsy?
He good for LG solos or not?

[bright brook]

he is good

just needs someone to do the solos

[bright brook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gANgql0Rag

[bitter gate]

Lol

That thumbnail is gold

[rocky oasis]

love it

[pliant glen]

Aww hell naw you got the Salute Registeel on there

[stone valley]

thanks naomi

[rocky oasis]

skinny?

[sturdy steeple]

LOL

[raven crane]

Why are we manually fighting the cute puppy..

https://tenor.com/view/raikou-cute-sleeping-leaves-soon-gif-14441462

[rocky oasis]

new bully target wfter latios

[raven crane]

I will bully you.

[bright brook]

I was also once a sync pair (that solos latias)

[tender horizon]

Symbolic placeholder move

Imagine hes a bug johto support who doesnt support his OG self

Oh actually he does

Just not attack buffing

[dawn plume]

hmph

this was with 2 recover mprs

guess it needs 3

also have to pray for no nat crits though since he runs electric guard… dunno if i’m strong enough for this one

[raven crane]

No nat crits, that feels statistically impossible when his damage output for a majority of the fight is like throwing blades of grass.

Like how many Sync Buffs is that.

[dawn plume]

raikou got to 9 sync buffs on bar 1 lmao

[raven crane]

So 36+ attacks that can't crit?

Uber generous.

[dawn plume]

you can afford one or two crits but it would need recover mprs to compensate

[raven crane]

That's certainly the easier option to pray for lol!

[dawn plume]

yea this is possible but awful

[raven crane]

I feel that.

Skyla please.

[pearl pawn]

https://youtu.be/W--JPQLVsic?si=6TLUdV3LgAtajS0z
Uxie is done

[quaint tartan]

He’s way better than I thought lol

[pearl pawn]

I hope he can get latias and terrakion

[pearl pawn]

idk about in LG but he tanked csmm max offense supp damage x3 without ex so he is nice

[quaint tartan]

I don’t know why I misread his b move tied to 2 uses only, I pulled him off tier 1 today and was like mmmh wait, his tm is tied to ANY CIRCLE 😅

[pearl pawn]

I also read his b move being 2 uses only

So I was pleasantly surprised when it wasn't

I wonder if that was an error cause no way we both thought it was

[raven crane]

You both can't read!

I'm kiddin'.

[jade ore]

might as well be two uses only with how it activates

[lost juniper]

https://youtu.be/sMacMk5MpnE?si=QYUT22lsAKWierD-

Latias was already done

Terrakion would be very difficult since Bugsy is rock weak

[pearl pawn]

any circle is not too bad

[quaint tartan]

It’s any circle so there’s margin to be better off in the future with new units releasing

[quaint tartan]

how dare you be right

[jade ore]

Yeah, its not too bad, but being a long animation on a non extended circle from Bugsy does feel kinda bad

[true tartan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/960306675473084426/1317974466814414979/Screenshot_2024-12-15-16-59-39-947_com.google.android.apps.nbu.files.jpg?ex=6760a2df&is=675f515f&hm=d2a88ab77afac927022d455de2c02c98356d7a26b8a21cea24814f09b149afe1&

so close....

[shy notch]

Damage roll moment

[true tartan]

there she is

increased her lead of character wtih more solos lol

[raven crane]

What does she get with another +2 energy to counter Uxie?

Actually I'll just look.

[true tartan]

the paths they took for the grid, mostly that lol

[raven crane]

Yeah I see that.

[bright brook]

Dang snow got it.

[worthy horizon]

it's specifically choosing the 2 smun on sync and dodging troublemaker, +6 could choose tm instead

major delay to put up with but that's seemingly the best option there

[dawn plume]

quaggles lowered it

[dawn plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq8W-tHllBQ lol @ 3 restarts

successful run starts at 2:09

[shy notch]

Seems doable…MPR hell though

[hollow ether]

Is it possible with 3/5 EXR? No TM MPR 😂

Manage go 3rd bar

[dawn plume]

shouldn't a b move be saved for bar 3?

since sync is damage reduced

[hollow ether]

Did trial with that but hard to control dmg for 2nd bar

Well, will try again any kind of strat

[dawn plume]

yeah no haymaker at 3/5 sucks a lot

[worthy horizon]

i'd def be surprised if that ends up possible

[river cliff]

Finally got my last eggmon's pasio theme skill leveled up, now they'll be unstoppable

with ss lear

[thick dawn]

wait that is so embarassing I thought I uploaded my cut version,,

i just uploaded it rq and did other things lmao

not reuploading that but thanks for letting me know 💀

[kind imp]

I know the feeling

But I also learned you can still cut it out in YouTube's own editor, even after uploading

I only saw it 3 days later lmao

[bright brook]

u can always use...eh youtube editting tools.

which sucks but is unfortunately the only way

[tender horizon]

DELELELELELELWOOOOOOOP

[rocky oasis]

comgrats. got 4ish mor eto go 🙂

out of the ones i usually use ofc

i dont think im ever gonna use anything other than tech blastoise

only 28 more PF w/o SA

we are close to having all of their roles and SA released

at least theyre rolling out SAs faster than roles

[tender horizon]

Ss Steven getting upgraded again

[river cliff]

Time for him to get his final role and get weird world

[rocky oasis]

that would be amazing for him actually

idk why they only gave normal 1 psychic terrain

infinist terrain would make miltres way easier

and probably make torn possible

should turn everything else into easy mode too

[chrome halo]

It's quite strange that they save all Psychic fair without SA for the last patch

[rocky oasis]

i keep forgetting paulo exists

theyre either gettin git in jan or feb

[tender horizon]

Weird World and Weird Recovery omg

[sturdy steeple]

It pains me as a psychic lover

[chrome halo]

Having to endure the long wait, i feel that

[karmic willow]

Nao did you get dexio?

[sturdy steeple]

No he sucks

[dawn plume]

true…

why pull dexio when jacq

[true tartan]

[dawn plume]

what could they even give jacq for superawakening

hes already busted

psychic terrain entry 💀

[lost juniper]

Expanded sync

[vital ibex]

first time b-move: stat drop immunity

[dawn plume]

that’d be too busted but also yeah sure lol

for both

[vital ibex]

[shy notch]

Some form of entry psychic terrain seems to be given for psychic types. Just hope the other passives aren’t just adrenaline filler

[stuck mantle]

Jacq got 14 any way

So like not change for him nothing

Terrain on entry only make bar 1 terra more faster

Since after it run out any way

[dawn plume]

probably just gonna be sync cd shenanigans

which sucks

[shy notch]

I could see him getting an additional strike: stat up which would be useful

They like to add team wide buffs on some of the expansions but not sure if it makes sense for Jacq. Could be something berry related

[shy sinew]

An easier time getting 14 would probably be appreciated regardless?

[stuck mantle]

All was easy only torn hard

Not sure if worth 5 candys

[dawn plume]

moltres easier than torn?

[pearl pawn]

I wonder whats stopping bugsy from coballion

[vital ibex]

not enough circle, no atk debuffs, no status

[dawn plume]

stone edge

[heavy sinew]

dena had the chance to make the rayquaza event more like LA with 3 health bars but apparently not

[shy notch]

I was bracing myself for a Giovanni level of difficulty co-op event just for Rayquaza to go down after a couple of moves

[heavy sinew]

yea this just sucks

like cmon make him do more stuff

than just dragon claw

[shy notch]

They really phoned it in

I’ll gladly take the yellow move candy tho

[stuck mantle]

Moltres you can flinch torn no

[sturdy steeple]

It's not impossible it just hasn't been done yet

[dawn plume]

for all we know it is giovanni level difficulty, our units are just too strong for that now

[shy sinew]

Instructions unclear: is the level of difficulty of Giovanni in LAs

[vital ibex]

tbf it has a gimmick

80% DR when no weather

it just so happens irida exists and ss n ignores it

[shy sinew]

Red too! It does probably get a bit harder if none of the 9 pairs involved in the battle have a weather or a Piercing Blows-esque passive somewhere

[rocky oasis]

oh i didnt even notice the dr bc the good old maxie + ss hilda comp just cant be killed by ray

i didnt know he had dr

[kind imp]

I summon hail with pbea and swap in SC Steven

[stuck mantle]

I did whit nc red on auto

Already got all rewards so easy event

Expect something better

[tender horizon]

The new Rayquaza stage cud totally become a LA

Its hp bar is also LA based

And Ice HS next month...

Hmmmmmmmm

[shy notch]

Had a funny idea. Should be easier than Bulu

[tender horizon]

Tf

[true tartan]

making it holla

[lost juniper]

Interesting

Hala expansion grid when

[sturdy steeple]

sina too

[vital ibex]

forgor about her

honestly forgor red had it in his b too

[lost juniper]

https://youtu.be/xuYfRByUMJc

Latias reduced to 3/5 EX R as well

[shy notch]

Both down to 1% at the end

[pearl beacon]

One every other month

[blazing pagoda]

https://youtu.be/pRyIJhel_eY?si=iynlSEYHq9qocBr2

I've been waiting for this since 12/1

• This solo makes me a champion and a hero.

• To who?

• To those weirdos in Masters discord

[rocky oasis]

lmao congrats

Not suprsised she can do it

more suprised that you can get torn
full para a couple times at all

[final bloom]

Woah congrats! Another solo for SS Cynthia

Lol without Dragon Zone. Most value

[rocky oasis]

now what other torn solos can we get w/ a million full paras...

[median swan]

mc pika

[final bloom]

What is the problem about paralysis?

[rocky oasis]

luck

the problem is that most of us aint lucky

[final bloom]

Ss cynthia can reach 80% of para right?

[inner turret]

of applying paralysis

not of tornadus actually not being able to move because of it

[worthy horizon]

would be 90% to apply para too but yes the issue is needing full paras and having tornadus immobile

[brisk sapphire]

What's the base chance to proc para again

[worthy horizon]

should be 25%, halved by tornadus's mitigation 5

so 12.5% there

[brisk sapphire]

Hmm so that's for torn specifically. Others have different?

[worthy horizon]

yea the LAs info tab shows mitigation for each arena

usually it's 8

coba 1, cress immune

[tender horizon]

Pikachu sucks, big enough reason to be NO to the solo

[blazing pagoda]

Ye, but i don't see any problem with para luck, is like poti MPR 1 bajillion times to do some solos

[heavy sinew]

what is bro even talking about 😭

[pearl pawn]

hi arzen

[heavy sinew]

hi richu

[karmic willow]

wake me up when next gauntlet starts

[tender horizon]

Damn Olivia solo latios

Gloria get your ass to work

[true tartan]

Gloria can't max her crit...

I've reached bar 3, but that's about it lol

[lost juniper]

Both Glorias

TL Gloria got close too

[shy notch]

TL Gloria’s terrible bulk aside, she does have regen and evasion to back her up

[lost juniper]

It'll be like the Barry solo ig

[worthy horizon]

atrocious lodge strike stats though

even tl volo gets minor buffs to stats

[shy notch]

Ig they overvalued wood hammer

[worthy horizon]

she was released a whole 13 months sooner

[lost juniper]

Could be worse. She's at least not TL May

[worthy horizon]

eh i've felt like lodge may is a lot easier to slot for duos but a lot of that is ss kris carry

i've thought that marley with like 6 mprs could be enough to solo latios and cheren would need a similar amount with thunderbolt para

marley has decent self buffs and a reliable innate

[rocky oasis]

ive given up on cheren

finals week ends tomorrow too

so back to bo falkner soon

[worthy horizon]

yeah cheren's odds are extremely bad

thunderbolt comes in so late and you get nowhere without its para

[shy notch]

They delayed Cheren’s grid for so long and it’s still arguably worse than some 3* grids

[worthy horizon]

side expansion could save him but same thing for most things that don't have a solo (bar phoebe and solgaleo)

[median swan]

dust kicker personal lucky skill

[inner turret]

That'd be so funny

[dawn plume]

olivia solo is craaaazy

holy DR

[bitter gate]

Which Olivia

[dawn plume]

base

bp already got it

[bitter gate]

Did quaggles intentionally aim for that para proc or not

Jesus

It was probably important no

[dawn plume]

idk i was thinking that too

[bitter gate]

Good cooking lol

[rocky oasis]

wait what

olivia expansion when

[dawn plume]

maybe we can hit 400 before 2025...

[pearl beacon]

A happy new year to loltios

Who are the candidates?

[pearl pawn]

What units haven’t solo’s this poor thing

[worthy horizon]

a small chunk, mostly early strikes

[dawn plume]

i think the best candidates are lodge volo and lodge gloria

both are +2 evasion praying lol

[worthy horizon]

thankfully superawakening gave ss lysandre the latios solo at just 6/5

[pearl pawn]

83% of the cast can solo Latios

[worthy horizon]

theoretically possible at 5/5 but need god gear and stuff

[pearl pawn]

I wonder if base Gloria has a chance

[worthy horizon]

stdk said he's gotten her to bar 3

[pearl pawn]

Maybe with some absurd Dr gear

[dawn plume]

she for sure should get with exr and superawakening

but as she is now, don't think so

[true tartan]

I don't own many DR gear

she has enough damage to reach bar 3

[pearl pawn]

I’ve got 5/5 Gloria and blue feathers to spare

[true tartan]

but... that's it

the way for it to be done is very annoying

[dawn plume]

i've tried lodge volo a lot but praying on +2 evasion when your bulk is so pitiful is.... very not fun...

[true tartan]

that's the same story for Lodge Gloria haha

I've gotten to bar 3 with her like.. over 3 times

but that's it

[pearl pawn]

What 3-4*’s haven’t beaten latios other than strikers

[true tartan]

I've filtered them in my doc

if you want to look for it

[pearl pawn]

Oh neat

[dawn plume]

worth noting every sprint and field unit can do it lol

late addition role benefits

[pearl pawn]

I feel like most sprint field have some form interference or sustain so I sure hope they would

It’s sad to me that SGardenia can’t get latias

[true tartan]

Winona, Wikstrom, Thorton, Sophocles, Roxanne, H Rosa, Phoebe, Petey, Mina, Marlon, Marley, Lucy, Lisia, Lodge Lillie, Katherine, Lodge Jasmine, James, Grant, Gladion, Lodge Cynthia, Clay, Cheren, Blaine, Agatha, Lodge Silver, P Serena, Lodge Rosa, Ramos, Mallow, Kukui, BP Falkner, Erika, Wake

thsoe are the non-strike units

[dawn plume]

lodge volo got exr?

[true tartan]

godammit

there lol

[dawn plume]

i wish

[true tartan]

I've reached bar 2 under half with Zinnia

Wally, I know he reached bar 3

same as MC & Solgaleo

they were 1 move away to win

[dawn plume]

i just remembered how bad lodge jasmine is and got upset

whyd they do that to her

[worthy horizon]

bp clemont but pre-evo version

[dawn plume]

i just learned ny lance doesnt have potion mpr

thats

unfortunate

[true tartan]

Summer Gloria has reached Entei under half like, 10 times now

but I need the luck to finish it off

(or a way for her to have +3 crit)

guess if someone is lucky enough

they could solo Cobalion* with Blaine? lol

[dawn plume]

apparently every unit with exr can solo latios

though that only became true this month

[true tartan]

that makes sense lol

the EX R gives bulk and an extra bonus

[dawn plume]

ss lys still needed the superawakening lol

[true tartan]

or just...

"more levels" tbh lol

Level 180 and you can "lower" super awakening requirement by trading stat source

any new way for improving the units have made solos more accessible to be done

[bitter gate]

What is the specific issue preventing the Lodge Volo Latios solo again

[dawn plume]

just needs a stupid amount of dodges and sandstorm mpr

[chrome halo]

Lodge Rosa has a good shot at Latios when Staggering connects

[dawn plume]

and he can only work with +2 evasion and pocket sand 4

his damage is very not good which means he needs a lot more sand

he could get raikou since he hit on type but even then it was awful

[worthy horizon]

denying all its speed bonuses too

[bitter gate]

I think the volo solo needs some expanded energy

And +8 E

[dawn plume]

yea that's what i've been trying

[bitter gate]

I'm surprised Agatha and Ramos can't do Latios either

[dawn plume]

specifically this

if i could get mgr for bulldoze i would be very happy

[bitter gate]

Remove berserker for it

Tbh

[dawn plume]

i did try that but i think he needs it

otherwise hes stuck at +3 atk

his damage is baddddd

salamence intimidate actually hurting a lot

[true tartan]

more than "can't do" is someone not bothering on attempting

[bitter gate]

I have the resources but not the orbs

Lol

[worthy horizon]

that does tend to be the bigger case yeah

[bitter gate]

What else is "not bother"

That's still possible

[true tartan]

all potion MPR runs

[bitter gate]

Calem vs Latias?

Hmm...

[chrome halo]

Lodge Rosa vs Latios

[true tartan]

from my doable thing?

I've gotten to bar 3 with Calem

[bitter gate]

I have mine exr

[true tartan]

so is mine

[bitter gate]

What's needed

[pearl beacon]

I was so close to hErika on Latias
But gsve up 3m ago bcs of time

[true tartan]

the document says it lol

I've attempted with 2/5

[bitter gate]

I guess I'll try that later I guess

[true tartan]

this is what I've used

[bitter gate]

Why not

FA more than guaranteed triple?

Is it better?

[true tartan]

🤷‍♂️

up to you lol

[bitter gate]

Guess I'll test it

[true tartan]

just sharing what I used in my attempt

of course, the best scenario is to have FA all the way to bar 2

pre or after under half

so you can heal up from the sure crit EQ

[kind imp]

i think nc marnie can do more

i've gotten to bar 3 torn

[true tartan]

Tornadus was being tried, no?

[kind imp]

and saw someone that got to bar 3 latias

[true tartan]

just check random units in the documents, and see what you feel can be done haha

[bitter gate]

I gave up on skylas

Too easy to get rekt without pots

[true tartan]

potion mpr moment

[bright brook]

Or this

[true tartan]

wonder if BP Erika can solo Bulu

[chrome halo]

her bulk is bad lmao

[true tartan]

it certainly is

her only saving grace is Absorb lol

can max sp. def, but... then? Stoic?

now in the current availability of Skill Gear

[worthy horizon]

don't think ramos latios is impossible but pretty not interested in trying to make it happen xd

[bitter gate]

I actually got crit 6 times in a row

By Latias

[worthy horizon]

agatha can pretty effectively sleep chain too with troublemaker

can continually shut down latios and its sides for a while

[true tartan]

Blue's been going up lol

[bitter gate]

Can he do anything else

[true tartan]

EX R coming for Blue and Leaf soon

[bitter gate]

Can we skip to 1/1 so I can awaken my anabel and get my 13

Unless her passives really suck

[true tartan]

the bulk is big tho

[bitter gate]

Like team fist bump is enough

I'm not asking for much

[true tartan]

she becomes sprint-like now lol

[bitter gate]

Bulk is big but being forced to run synchro

Is a pain in the ass

If I can skip it I can do way more things in grid

As opposed to always having left side hogging all the energy

I can run crit/agg/gauge more reliably for instance

[median swan]

need the 10/5 ss blue havers to step up

[bitter gate]

I would if not for Anabel

and I'd be surprised if anyone else except me 10/5s her anyhow

[true tartan]

maybe the people who had her 5/5 from before

but didn't bother doing new solos with the upgrdes lol

[bitter gate]

well every single anabel solo outside of Latios/Bulu/Entei/Raikou was done by me so

registeel someone did it first in game

and someone told me to test it

[true tartan]

that doesn't exclude what I said, but sure lol...

the one who made the first ones was Luri

[bitter gate]

yeah

she might

she's a kalos fan, though idk why Anabel was marketed in kalos arc

as an alolan lol

[true tartan]

because the appearance is what dictates the region

[bitter gate]

I thought luri mentioned she has no more candy

which is why I think she'll slow down on awakenings

[true tartan]

Luri's been silent these days...

[bitter gate]

because no LG, makes sense

and resource shortage

[true tartan]

not even the daily ice cream

[bitter gate]

she's on some trip no

[true tartan]

no idea

I was used to see it in my feed

[bitter gate]

i recall her saying she was going somewhere in a tweet

[true tartan]

"today's ice cream"

[median swan]

laying low until she busts out the 10/5 ss diantha for hse

[bitter gate]

ye

[true tartan]

well, I can't say much as I don't understand japanese haha

[bitter gate]

also tbf it's cold AF in JP right now no

[true tartan]

just remember the ice cream posts

[bitter gate]

idt eating ice cream during this time of year is a good idea

[true tartan]

ice cream in winter is something I like to do lol

[bitter gate]

She also didn't try the Skyla solo on Moltres

despite superawakening it

Not sure if I want to awaken Rose or Lysandre for solos

i know Rose gets Azelf but what does Lysandre get with his

[true tartan]

no idea :T

[bitter gate]

Cobalion/Uxie?

[true tartan]

he gets more damage hmmm

Uxie more likely than Cobalion...?

weak to fairy

going to be a bit annoying

[bitter gate]

ehh, it's Lysandre, he can take it

[true tartan]

yeah, downside up is just that good lol

[rocky oasis]

gettong free spd buffs off moltres is amazing

[bitter gate]

I wonder if the extra damage also lets him do Latias

Which I think is possible

but not being able to run FT is annoying

[rocky oasis]

he can afford mind games?

mine is still 3/5

candied him before his 5/5 grid

still dont feel like dropping 2 more

[bitter gate]

he fails because he gets overwhelmed and doesn't do enough damage to heal

he should be able to afford MG

[true tartan]

the only issue is getting to the point where Latias didn't buff too much

there's a reason why DC > MG

[bitter gate]

because not as much spdef?

[true tartan]

it gains more Defense

if you don't reduce it, you have to skip under half bar 2

or it gains +6 by when you change to bar 3

meanwhile, Calm Mind is used twice

so at top, it gains +4 Sp. Def

Acc +2
Atk +4
Def +6
Sp. Atk +3 (+2 if used both CMs)
Sp. Def +2 (+2 if used both CMs)
Speed +4

on top of the Evasion thing

so assuming you don't do enough damage... and it gets to +5 SAtk

[worthy horizon]

yeah you cannot at all afford mg2 if you have 0 other debuffs

[true tartan]

that's... +21

[worthy horizon]

dc2 just outputs more damage through fluid fortification

[true tartan]

so if you get to hit everytime, you lower to -12, evasion + Sp. Def

meaning you're put in +9

you deal 5% of the damage

that's literally... using physical ground moves vs Cress in bar 1 haha

[bitter gate]

Yeah, that's really annoying

explains why Anabel DC worked better

I was running mind games on calem and I was like

yikes that's not a lot of damage

[lost juniper]

Wasn't the Lisia solo 1 move away from Latios too? What stops it? Lack of damage or dr?

[bitter gate]

damage.

I had to crit a move naturally to get there, on top of some important misses

the annoying thing is that Lisia is playing only at +1 SpA versus Latios +3 spdef, especially when bar 3 changes weakness

if she had an EX role, particularly if its support

I think she could've gotten it

or if she had more SpA

if she gets the exact same passives as Wallace does, I'm confident she can do Bulu/Latios/Raikou

her getting more hinges entirely on what she gets on top of sufficiency

[rocky oasis]

at least w/ wallaces passives she should be anle to max her crit

due to mega

[rocky oasis]

should be able to 5* bruno and lodge syca soon

hopefully this helps w/ their gauge issues

bc oh boy does brunos speed SUCK

he struggles to keep up his gauge even w/ a tech exeggutor

[pliant glen]

Honestly might try Lodge Gloria Loltios as long as it doesn't take +10 energy

[dawn plume]

it probably does lol

[lost juniper]

I mean you can give it a try

[true tartan]

I got to bar 3 without it

I only give extra energy as very last resort

and have orbs to spare for it

I did something like this

[lost juniper]

I suppose you can get Berserker with +10E

That will probably make her damage better

[pliant glen]

Pro: Closer to 400 Latios solos
Con: -100,000 orbs to Lodge Gloria of all people

[true tartan]

not like is needed

[dawn plume]

i put -100000 to lodge volo and lodge arven

for the sake of science

[rocky oasis]

just got out of my last final

im exhausted

half dead

i want to never think about functional groups again

gonna get back to the bp falkner solo after i get home an dsleep for 18 hours

please kill me

tl arven seems to be decent

if only arcen would show up in a select

[river cliff]

I'd imagine he shows up in the new year selects

[shy notch]

Coping for a Paldea triple rival banner

[shy sinew]

Nemona/Carmine/Kieran or Nemona/Penny/Arven?

[shy notch]

The latter

I can see a separate Kitakami focused banner

[wise raven]

Watch Kitakami siblings to be MF banners

[shy sinew]

Kieran wouldn’t do that to me…

[rocky oasis]

pecharunt when

[median swan]

ss kieran and ogerpon + ss carmine and pecharunt pls and thank you

[river cliff]

Loyal three when

next bp pairs

[rocky oasis]

dont you mean the disappointing three

[river cliff]

Hey fezandipiti is cool

[rocky oasis]

still a douchebag who beat up ogerpon

[river cliff]

Poison types gotta poison type

[pliant glen]

This is the hardest stage in the game imo but Nita's is way more annoying

[rocky oasis]

only ones i cant clear rn is gio and nita

[dawn plume]

me when wrong channel

[median swan]

wdym this is clearly a sign that the next gauntlet is 3 UBs

[raven crane]

Nita, Noland and the Masked Royal.

Gonna enjoy that good ole 4 winstreak.

[chrome halo]

4? That's too many

[shy notch]

I’ve been slowly chipping away the UBs and have Nita and Nemona left

Noland would be the worst one to get in any repeated format. Got him last time in BR and had to ignore him

[heavy sinew]

9k until I pity adaman

Will we have enough gems by then?

[chrome halo]

Should be

[heavy sinew]

I have 0

I hope we get some

I will forever hate Adaman until the end of tiem

heh

Time

[worthy horizon]

[shy notch]

Arc Adaman incoming

[river cliff]

Origin Dialga at last

[shy notch]

Honestly my dream sync pair

[chrome halo]

Finally meta defining Dialga

The Dialga we have is hopeless

[vital ibex]

dont even get started on our palkia

[heavy sinew]

arezu waiting room

[river cliff]

I just want Cyllene and Melli

[karmic willow]

I would rather take 3 bosses than this

Like

The amount of clears that can "solve" them

Sheeesh

[raven crane]

Noland is easily the worst UB they designed in that aspect.

Like yes, let's put the stage that OHKO's any unit without damage nullification into the game mode that attempts to limit who you use so you get the maximum rewards! Genius!

[worthy horizon]

yeah i woulda hoped they kept that one out of the rotation but unfortunately not

when you get access to guard chocolat it makes it free though at least

[rocky oasis]

In the meantime we have maybe 3 or 4 wide guard users?

or the equivalent

like grusha

[chrome halo]

Yeah but most if not all of them are support

And there is Roxanne who is extremely fragile and Fighting weak

Most players have Lana to work with as the only viable option

[worthy horizon]

lana becomes a godsend

[pliant glen]

Oh I didn't even realise I posted that Morgan UB clear in here

[bitter gate]

@thick dawn before I hard commit to the task

How impossible is 1/5 holiday Lillie against lati bulu

Assuming EX

[thick dawn]

i don't think the word impossible should be anywhere near this sentence

[bitter gate]

Kk, good to know

[thick dawn]

but fr I don't see any reason it can't be done

[bitter gate]

Because I'm actually surprised it hasn't been done

But I don't want to underestimate

Sleep chains

[thick dawn]

1/5 is just worse for most cause you're gonna be troublemaker 1 as LS (well I guess you could opt not to but why would you do this) and not on the grid cause you don't have it

[bitter gate]

The sing randomiser stat

[thick dawn]

you'll be relying on "no passive activation" queue windows for sleep if that sentence even makes sense

[bitter gate]

Is also very helpful so

Yeah, I understand that

I've gotten to bar 3 multiple times

But if you fail the perfect chain against bar 3

Double edge just one shots your ass after chip

Since sleep removes surf

I wonder if Bulu is easier in this case because no multiple targets

So managing sleep is "easier"

[thick dawn]

fwiw I don't see any reason 1/5 lillie couldn't get the common five

that being latios bulu entei azelf raikou

[shy notch]

For most of these, I would probably try to go into bar 3 with sync ready to reduce the need for a perfect chain

[bitter gate]

Idk why the minimum instrument for everything is 2

Which is why I wondered if there was something to it

[shy notch]

2/5 mostly gives consistency

[bitter gate]

Yeah, it makes it a lot easier but I wonder if it can be lowered

Am asking since I got her today, looked at her solos and I was like hmm

Anything stopping 1/5?

Exr I think makes some brainless

[inner turret]

I just don't care enough to do it

[shy notch]

I think Cobalion can also be lowered with witty hit 2

[true tartan]

now with what was talked from here... any suggestions to add on the Doable tabs?

[dawn plume]

this was very close

i needed more recover mpr lol

honestly 1 more

[true tartan]

you went something like this?

[rocky oasis]

raikou in lg when

[dawn plume]

yep

that grid exactly

[rocky oasis]

time to slap lithe on everyone

[dawn plume]

used electric guard ls

ampharos does more damage but i focused electrode first bc headbutt is so annoying

flinch flinch flinch

on break now but i might try volo on latios some more cuz i wanna see 400

[rocky oasis]

grabbing food

will go back to bp falk

after lunch ofc

[shy notch]

I was surprised SS Nemona only has 4 solos until I tried for myself and uh yeah seems about right

[rocky oasis]

She feels like a straightforward beatstick that can debuff

and set sun

thats it

she aint countering the other gimicks

[shy notch]

Her damage and bulk are quite low, especially with her very limited sun and circle

Doesn’t help that her circle doesn’t mitigate special damage

[rocky oasis]

can she do raikou

or is he too much

[shy notch]

Yep. She got Latias, Latios, Raikou and Bulu

[rocky oasis]

shes ok as a beatstick i guess? mine is 1/5

not worth candying imo

[shy notch]

I did candy her, but it’s not really worth it since SS Gladion exists

We’ll have to see if her future partners (Koraidon) make her better

[rocky oasis]

koriadon better fucking be a pf or mf

if its a arc i will drop the game

[shy notch]

I’m optimistic it won’t start out as arc at least

And that we’ll get more than one of each for the MCs and professors

[true tartan]

she has "low" Attack with not many multipliers...

so yeah...

[shy notch]

The only one I would’ve entertained is Registeel with Stoic 2, but it’s probably impossible to avoid getting hit by any of the hard hitting special moves on bar 2

[rocky oasis]

gotta skip the 50% somehow i think

[shy notch]

Doable?

[rocky oasis]

cant imagine how much rng that took

might need some good dr gear

[shy notch]

I actually don’t have any dr gear. Just need to figure out the move order

I barely couldn’t avoid Regirock’s sync on bar 2 which lowered my attack

[rocky oasis]

can she afford mpr?

[shy notch]

Nah she wants sync burst anyway for sunny day

Grid placement is unfortunate since one with the sun is in the way

[rocky oasis]

wouldnt sync burst put her at +6 again

unless you take 2 syncs on bar 2

[shy notch]

Yeah but you’re kind of forced to use it again earlier (if at all) to get regen back

[rocky oasis]

is the answer more orbs

[shy notch]

The most annoying thing is that I can sync as soon as I get to bar 2 but Regirock’s satisfied snarl doesn’t let me insta queue a move before iron defense

[median swan]

ooh good luck, if it's an instaqueue issue there probably is a path

[rocky oasis]

gl

[median swan]

do you have room for headstrong?

[shy notch]

I’m running with this grid. The TM MPR probably is needed after all in addition to sync burst

There’s a window after Regirock uses rock slide and iron defense on bar 2 that you can use the TM for regen

And hopefully get an MPR so you can use it again after it syncs

[median swan]

hm makes sense, with an extra tm headstrong won't be needed anyway

[rocky oasis]

charging sun should help too

[shy notch]

Idk if the rock tomb on bar 1 misses if that would give me long enough for Regirock to not immediately queue iron defense on bar 2. It does take quite a while between the b move and sunny day

I tried a more sync nuke focused grid just for that reason but I end up having to drop a lot on the grid

I ended up getting the rock tomb miss and did it with both sync nuke multipliers, but it wasn’t enough to stall iron defense or even do enough damage to get past half. The original grid is probably better

[pearl pawn]

What move level nemona

Oh 3/5 maybe if I had 5/5 it’d make a difference but I have 4/5

[shy notch]

It could possibly make a difference with damage ranges

[median swan]

hm can you stall a bit in bar 1 so that regi doesn't immediately use rock slide?

[shy notch]

It’s kind of lose lose since then you have to deal with sync + iron defense + earthquake on bar 1

While stalling for crit shield to go down into bar 2

[median swan]

oh i just meant to let regi use up gauge and then do the half-bar skip

[shy notch]

It ends up doing too much damage, unless stoic is somehow better

I suppose the second sun could be used on bar 1 and letting Regi sync and use one move

Hm just tried it. She fainted to sync + stomp on bar 1

[median swan]

hmm that's annoying

that strat that got you to bar 3 is probably it ig

[true tartan]

I have a friend with a maxed Nemona

want me to ask if they are interested in attempting?

[shy notch]

For sure

[true tartan]

have a video reference for it? they seem interested

[shy notch]

I don’t have the recording where I made it past half bar 3, but I’ll share something that can be referenced

I did find something interesting. Apparently if Regirock flinches you with rock slide on bar 2, it doesn’t immediately queue iron defense

[true tartan]

interesting lol

[shy notch]

https://youtube.com/shorts/0h8ruyNZHB4?si=FqWsMqjALdsHCiRy

Bar 1 is very consistent. Bar 2 is where there is variance. If you get flinched, you can insta queue your b move. If you don’t get flinched, but your sync + b move do under 50%, you can fish for a stone edge miss

Used this

[true tartan]

hmmm, if Regirock misses 1 RT, maybe you do get the time for it to not use ID

[shy notch]

I did have that scenario and it still used ID. Only doesn’t when I get flinched weirdly

RT miss would help with having more HP at least

[true tartan]

ic

[hollow ether]

https://youtu.be/0fhXa9XoMj0
Holiday Lillie lowered to 1/5 EXR

[bitter gate]

Base Skyla Vs Raikou and cobalion

Mpr hell

[true tartan]

ah yep

any proposed grid?

[worthy horizon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqOM52YiAmI bruh

one swift, one eruption, and one fire fang

doesn't even use up his endure

ss lysandre has to tank 5 attacks

[worthy horizon]

infinite fmn moment

[pearl beacon]

SA speedrunning, truly a thing

[worthy horizon]

even speed debuffs matter there

snow spends 17 seconds on sync animation and i spend 5 on mine

i think it's still about 2 seconds slower than ss lysandre

accounting for that

wonder how 10/5 ss hilbert looks like vs azelf

[bitter gate]

wat

Gone lol

[true tartan]

Hilbert went from 2 to 6 thanks to SA

Torn needing only 6/5

[bitter gate]

Did Eusine get anything new?

[true tartan]

is more about no one has invested in him lol

[bitter gate]

Diantha Lysandre n got 4 I think?

[true tartan]

Diantha got 3

Lysandre got 4

1 being 6/5

(and Diantha already had a solo)

so both are at 4

if anything... I think Iris would get some solos if someone gets her fully invested

and I've almost gotten to bar 2 with Jasmine vs Registeel

no extra energy, just trying with luck

Mad Strength 2 as LS

using the TM to prevent stat drops

if extra energy, I'd possibly grab Iron Tail OaR

relying on IT to hit + lower defs lol

[bitter gate]

Hmmm

[true tartan]

but seems somewhat doable

[bitter gate]

I'll try it, I suppose

I was going to try 1/5 Lillie but seems someone did it already

And I suck at sleep so

[true tartan]

Latios is still pending if you want that lol

[bitter gate]

I think I'd rather run DC/FT and +10 E Jasmine

But I'll experiment with it

[true tartan]

have fun with it

if DC, you can grab BB1

[bitter gate]

Ye

[bitter gate]

i forget how registeel has aggravation and HE lol

so tilting

[bitter gate]

@true tartan how did you even get to bar 2 for jasmine registeel lol

I can't even get past bar 1 without the run ending because of a tbolt para

like I have not gotten past bar 1 in one hour

due to para

despite having natural remedy lol

[worthy horizon]

have you tried mad strength yet

[bitter gate]

mad strength is outright worse than DC, tbh

also, no way you live bar 2

just no way

even if you saved a clang, you just die to that

and I dodged a focus blast prior to that

the only way you get past it is if you run FA and get really lucky on para dodges

[true tartan]

then how about you run Mind Games?

to cancel out the mit... but you have to pray for IT tho...

[bitter gate]

why MG tho, dropping defenses with DC is very hard already

let alone with an inaccurate IT

[true tartan]

well, that's about the only thing I can think

I got to bar 2, just that...

[bitter gate]

yeah, after enduring through para bullshit, the moment you get to half bar 2, you explode

[true tartan]

MG2 would only enable her to get past bar 2 faster

[bitter gate]

to the hyper beam

[rocky oasis]

sticking w/ a duo

no way do i have the patience for jasmine

[true tartan]

but was just a random idea I got, at least we know how far she can get if anything...

[bitter gate]

lemme try it with better RNG and FA

[worthy horizon]

torchic is a great gauge/stat boost fix

[rocky oasis]

weird how her grid expansion didnt give her spdef

[bitter gate]

you can just use a spdef/speed eggmon

no need to bring mcchic

if anything I feel Cobalion might be easier, lmao

[worthy horizon]

could see what you can do with support pory

mine isn't overcapped

[bitter gate]

mine is

I guess that's why

[worthy horizon]

yeah i used torchic pre-expansion so i wanted to downgrade but ended up not being able to

[bitter gate]

yeah, lemme give Cobalion a try, lmao

unironically I feel Cobalion might be easier

[worthy horizon]

it's a real possibility

[true tartan]

she's really tanky lol

[bitter gate]

the gauge is an unholy terror without FT

but otherwise she's under no threat at all

i do think Registeel is not impossible but you need impeccable luck

no para, you have clang ready for bar 2

and you have FA ready also

[worthy horizon]

far from the only special threat registeel has though, not getting much easier after that point

[bitter gate]

rofl, OaR build

and I hit 7 iron tails