#Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)
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Leon is realy bad
or will it
4 gauge moves
I can see him brute forcing moltres at very high invest
can't summon his own sun so not relevant to solos
No fast track no gauge no heal
despite the bird having 2 fire guards
yeah
He will be -3 speed lol
He use 2 moves
And its end for him
Tm 2 moves and cya
He cant even use b move you cant burn bird🤣
Base leon gauge was on get lucky mp is bad but this wat the heck they cook
Leon has mgr9 and mgr3 so I don't think gauge is that awful
Honestly if dena cut lg:) wat he can do will be pointless
We need send feedback and ask them wat happens whit lg
Or its break or wat? They should reapply
Do we get some new thresholds, I wonder
Alt Leon got really horribly shafted,
Skyla might be able to get 13? idk, it was kinda meh
Oh yeah, Lysandre might finally be able to do Latios
super freebie on ss hilbert can probably get him torn
possibly entei?
maybe that's too big of a stretch
it might not be actually
I think SS Piers might be a sleeper pick
FA helps quite a bit
for him to fast kill things
Maybe Klara gets 13?
Cobalion is slow and has stone edge which can miss
With attack debuffs he does even less
yeah but can he brute past half bars
Why brute?
do you mean HIlbert or Lysandre
Hilbert
I was talking about Lysandre
Hilbert yes, I think he can do it comfortably
since he also makes the health bar disappear anyway
i think he does latios and entei
I just hope they're not shafting the mode
and it's a temporary delay
it's odd they're reducing frequency, at least
I think we had a delay like that once before
then again one can argue it doesn't cater to a player majority, but I digress?
I hope it'll come back
well, a lot of the highest paying players play this as their primary
- cookies that are also integral to other modes like DC/UB
well they’d have to find out another way to give out deluxe cookies
which many are after
DC players want their HS1 and SP3
casuals want the other stuff
so they’d still play gauntlet
HS is also important for UB, HS and Adrenaline, and even some stuff like Mind Games is as well
I hope it too
it'll get more than enough backlash if it dies
at least from again, the many spenders that play for it
I highly doubt they'll remove it
on a bright side, it's on a month I'm unable to tryhard LG I guess
or unless they want to keep LA as a mode only as a one-time trier
there's also a secret title from gauntlet (the 100 streak one) so i don't think they'll just drop it
Yeah
Also funny how you got 5 rivals
But none new per se, just varieties
iknooow and none of them are the one i actually wanted
like i'm grateful ofc but like come on
They're pretty good tho
Well, hop and Marnie are
Bede just seems like a worse ish mix blue
me and my zero field candies disagree lmao
Me with close to 4 field candies:
but yes they're field setters who know how to set field effects more than twice at least
a luxury these days
With circle on top
we finally got field units who set field
the variety galar rivals have decent kits but for me I can’t really go for them bc NC kantrio rerun
i think the saltiest part of the update for me was that i didn't even get 10/5 ss wally
don't they have extension on grid
i wanted to increase his solo count aaaaaaaa
for this mode they will be decent at 3/5+ but I don’t see them being too outstanding
does v cind have lg potential actually
next month he and Lear will get op 10/5
they’re built for DC more with that team SEUN
I was looking forward to anabel too dw
And Skyla and lysandre got shafted
Sadge
depends on how much you can pull off with the healing sun 1
damage shouldn’t be that big of an issue
yeah only good thing about base lysandre 10/5 is how easy it makes the investment decision
More of a non LG pick
they don't, just the field ex
marnie has healing sun while hop has the gterrain sustain tho
Meanwhile bede:
being able to spam 4 gauge drum beating on terrain is nice actually
Where healing
i do view base lysandre as good for lg though despite the low count compared to today's standards, most of the ones he does take he takes super solidly and there's always a good slot for him every gauntlet
he already has a lot for a strike even before 10/5
yeah
Yeah, just that his 10/5 doesn't expand his capacity idt
Unless fsr he manages to do like
Terrakion
Lol
yeah it's not doing accomplishing anything special for him in lg
Are any units this batch even significantly buffed from SA for LG like anni Raihan?
Idts, at least
cobalion and latias weren't theoretically impossible so 10/5 could help push them within range
just still a very brute force route
Piers comes to mind
Since FA bulk means he can PB through a few things
I guess maybe Rei as well
Actually
I think Giacomo has a good shot at 13
The extra damage gives him the output to oneshot with kowtow
- free defenses means he has better survivability
palmer's is pretty basic but exactly what he needs
ss ace got the special bulk she wanted but with a big asterisk lmao
I forsee Giacomo being the biggest beneficiary
Her expansion seems more centered on 3 v 3d
I have to wait til next month for most of the hoenn fairs 
Is there anything new ss brendan could get?
I personally somewhat like it
It gives a new layer of safety and damage
doesn't solve my biggest issue with him, but I honestly quite like this one
she'll really like it for UBs yeah
Oh Lillie doesnt have 100% accurate sing

oh wait
troublemaker on grid
so i just need PPE
I kinda have to agree, but... I don't mind what he got that much since N can tear through arenas with his regular moves
^ this
he was honestly an mvp for me in the latest subway battle
just cuz his nuke when exr melts ingo and emmet
and he ignores tough skin
I think 10/5 is just enough for him to get Registeel and Regirock
Maybe Terrakion too but idk about him
N with Field Ex is really something right ?
would at least be my second strike/field or vice versa if i need for rally
but yea it's very “uhhhhhhh”
N would be great for damage challenge for anyone lacking Ash now if they're willing to invest
Him setting his own terrain is great. And also gives him utility against Leon's UB
could need candy and overcap just to beat sst red, dunno
mine is 4/5 +0e
tech would have done more or just be the same thing
still need nc blue plus spammer for every elec team for dc
N would surpass 4 million with the new upgrade
N, Blue and Melony works
Or the new Lillie since she has sprint EX R
possibly, i can't accurately gauge
I calced it based on skinny's video
He does 3 million without terrain
Terrain would make it 1.5 times stronger
looks like 1.3m to me https://youtu.be/IFQOdzt1Ye4?si=6DrqLHg35TWstDDu
0:00 - Ash 2.8 Mil
3:11 - SS Hau 3.5 Mil
5:53 - Iono 1.6 Mil
8:57 - SS Piers 2.6 Mil
11:33 - SST Red 1.2 Mil
14:18 - Classic Elesa 2.1 Mil
17:04 - Nemona 1.4 Mil
19:48 - N 1.3 Mil
22:35 - NC Blue 1.1 Mil
so better than sst red still but not by anything too massive
wasn't better off with anything else tho
for specifically dc
N did it before super awakening and before EX R
With 10/5 EX R he surpasses 4 million
better for rally, worse for everything else maybe compared to tech
oh basing off 10/5
Obviously
that def won't matter for me which is all my input is gonna be good for
and idk how many people would generally consider 10/5 to be a default assumption in most cases
I wonder if Skyla can do 13 now, I think she can
the extra damage range can help her cleave the second bar and imprevious variants can kinda withstand third bar without too much stress?
subject to stuns
yes
Torn is out off option. But Moltres? Hmm did she got anything good in 10/5 passive?
Flinch she got befor.
May is fire and use sun
Also she got passive crit not use trainer moves
Wat was realy good
ah
I need check skyla passive wat she got
Fly zone on entry its not bad but if this help? She still need use tmp . Sync should deal alot damage . When zone
She did with a lesser flinch rate, worse scaling and no durability
So I'm pretty sure Skyla can do it
Got to bar 3 once and that's it
his utility for lg is practically nonexistent
he simply goes brr
he has burn and some debuffs but his bulk sucks and his gauge sucks
still dies against terrakion
better bulk ig
not downplaying his damage though it’s utterly ridiculous lmao
Doesn't really gain any new solos from it but it'll make his existing solos easier. That is unless you get perfect para luck on Cobalion or smth
this month sux so i pitied adaman which also sux
Whats this month LG
No lg
It’s blue eyes white dragon
You need ask them i send feedback wat happens whit lg
Since if they cut it would be nice if they at least tell it
super sparring again though!!! yippee!!!!
i probably will have enough tickets to 3/5 all the dc pairs by the end of the month
It’s crazy there’s no way to farm deluxe cookies outside of LG. They should at least add them to the lucky skill arena or BV
Meanwhile, still trying this. Somehow was never able to get more than 2 Synthesis MPRs in all my attempts
being unbiased (as I don't use nor like using Leaf)
yeah, I think NC Leaf is better than Leon in terms of team composition... better is to have both
NC Leaf has way more utility than Leon so she might be better overall
but... alone by themselves, Leaf is "easier" to invest as you can even use role candies on her while with Leon you have to sacrifice stuff to get it
Leon prob beats her in harder content tho
leaf also doesnt have 500 scout point pity or require yellow candies lmao
Unless you really really like DC
i just had to pity adaman i'll have enough to pity leaf by the end of the month
Damage Challenge is not my thing 😅
Is new Lillie any good?
I love Primarina
But idk about her utility
a bit early to say hmmm
she'll be good for DC and here
She's a sleeper, she's good for LG
You can't go wrong with a sleeper for LG
lodge arven is pretty damn good
yea
too bad
no arven for me
is he coming to the monthly scout?
i might... actually do that
not monthly scout but he is rerunning
mfw 2 penny reruns and an arven rerun before nemona gets one
i need nemona exr
why do the variety galar rivals just look like mix pairs
field/strike asset flips
only thing in this update that interests me is nc blue
hes probably still top banner priority this month
even over leon
hes too important of a pair to miss
I do agree
The short timeframe for Arc Leon’s banner is strange. I wonder if there will be another arc pair in January
probably
Hope not😭
Just Lodge Raihan with some recovers
Ye most units dont need crit support these days
But if u mean solos
Then ya whats new
A piece of salt gonna take down latios next
i missed giacomo's superawakening its actually p good
If u get Giacomo to 5/5 hes alrdy pretty good
his gauge is still horrendously bad
These defenses would be nice to get some more clesrs
i know right
BUT
if he can kill azelf bar 1
then max invest is not that bad
i gave him the rolecake and
he overkilled the half bar
nuke was wonky
god i wanted him to get healing
but dena said nope this guy is NEVER getting that
woulda taken healing or defensive buffs
N already solos Azelf though
yes
but in my case though
see
WITH role cake's damage buffs
i overkilled it
to half bar
so i'm in a... difficult spot
like i deal "too much"
same with archie and adaman clear where invert did 3 buffs while i did 2 only with MG2
it's gonna require some adjustments
This why you damage control
not always feasible
but yeah IF i can get him to 10/5
hoooboy
that's gonna be something
despite me hating N
i have to admit
i like how "technical" and skillful SS N solos are
The move and sync multipliers will probably allow him to solo both Regis now
That he gets from getting to 10/5
ss hilbert has another instance of superawakening making a grid tile redundant
w getting super freebie 9 with superawakening
the super freebie 2 tile on his grid is worthless with that lol
but he should solo tornadus now
no lg december = I get to add a lot of clears to my personal repo? already added 9 clears for sst red leaving only moltres and cresselia left for me to do at some point
won't be missed
makes grid management far better
inconsistent with refusals to grant field ex to things but i think that's enough of a different thing
i will field cake N because i have no one else to give it to
real
Same
max invest solo time
that +40 speed hitting
and the full invested N + Cake should take Cobalion down
ss lysandre's didn't fix his biggest issue his gauge
dunno if he can get latios now or not
maybe he can just melt it fast enough
just find someone who likes lysandre/Volcanion a lot
i know a guy
@/invert
Invert
WELL... he has a BIT of a fix
@/rion
new moltres counter dropped
that isnt horrible actually
just get 7 tm mpr, hit once, sync and go nuts 
sadly, he can't use his B Move lol
need to put enough damage to one shot bar 2 and another to use Heat Wave on bar 3
buuuut discard that, forgot the double Fire Guard
now, returning a bit to SS Lysandre
yeah...
vs Latios at full SA, you pull an N
TM MPR a lot
get close to sync
use move, get the rain and try to end the game in the next moves lol
(now look at Latios defeating him because you set Rain and it uses Surf lol)
water guard 
sup yeah rain is huge, i'm not actually sure it nets him a cheaper duo on moltres though
latios should happen, entei and even bulu aren't out of the question, thought about coba and uxie but can't manage burns well enough to get through
maybe he gets through moltres with any rain eggmon now
still going to be no speed or healing, just need to work off racing rain and free move nexts mainly
have they made a daily gem breakdown
Not yet
fun he owning a whole line lol
where is that tile even
top right
in game his purrloin evolves into liepard after like 3 battles but here he just has both i guess
Yeah it doesn't make sense lol
and turns from Strike to Sprint
Dropping this here if anyone wants to try it. The RNG needed is awful, but the concept is there.
Hey what big f2p/gen pool units should I look into building for this mode?
Got a dead month until next datamine so building something would be fun
anything w/ piercing blows / equivalent moves
being able to ignore all gimmicks is great
Oh true I can beat cobalion easier
solgalillie is great
Mc solgaleo is less great but it gives you a splashable counter tho
Idk if you can call N f2p bc hes been given out a few times but he's good for duos too
For sure, I got those already
Except N still need him
Do any gen pool characters have piercing blows at all?
or is there a way I can search it
no
Lame
there is on poma tools tho
move / skill findser
under menu
idk if you have those units
theres units w/ passives and moves that dont fall under piercing blows like sst reds b move
basically anything w/ "Ignores passive skills that would reduce the damage of this attack"

sure is
Will?
He looks like a court jester
the green is ugly tho
Which is fitting I guess?
Valid
Did he get fixed btw?
I swear last patch his trainer move was bugged and now it isn’t
Lame, there goes my DC carry
moght make him arguably better or worse
He has fun interactions in csmm tho
at least he can steal crit again
Go for the 5 stats up x3 param and max yourself out
updated most recent rerun end dates (besides milo)
arven back after like 4 months and penny has reran twice while nemona is still...
its them and marnie raihan gloria
alder too
Okay back to 5
her tm has sync cd therefore she gets sprint (dena logic)
even though that makes her innate multiplier (opponent must have synced) worse
or harder to access rather
i mean extra sync buff is extra buff
gloria and alder have the distinct honor of being the only poke fairs with neither exr OR superawakening
how lovely
Don't worry, Alder will make a comeback on March trust
arc suit 
looking at her supeerawakening i worry they're gonna give her sprint lol
i'd love strike but meh
supp would probably give her azelf
Can she not do it now
She has flinch i guess?
With like really good stagger rates?
30% lol
Yeah, it'd be like SS May vs Moltres really
she can duo coba just fine at 3/5
i still cant believe that happened
jp players are insane
The good news is it means Anni Skyla can get her 13
i mean nc blue started the whole 30% flinch rate solos moltres thing so
It just depends if Torn is within her wheelhouse or not
NC Blue also doesn't fold like tissue paper
May has no defensive backbone and fully relied on stun cheese
tbf her damage is high enough for her to not need to go through multiple sync cycles for it
but yes a certified insane clear
Skyla has the same thing as well I reckon
I have a feeling Giacomo will be the biggest beneficiary of this batch
Giacomo has the raw power to oneshot bars with kowtow, and the +4 defenses really helps as well
doesnt look like we'll hit 400 latios solos before 2025 sadge, we'd need 14 more and there are 9 more units this month (who can all do it lmao) and only 1 unit getting a substantial buff who can't already do it (ss lysandre) so it would need 4 older units to get luckier and do it
idk who else could besides maybe lodge volo and gloria
im still attempting the bp falner
oh yeah forgot that hasnt happened
ive gotten to bar 3
i've gotten to below half on bar 3 w lodge volo
rng just be like that sometimes
its so not fun though
I need some spending advice
ok i got sina 3/5
I have a full coin bundle and am halfway through mix
Do I ham it on mix so I can pity one of the two supports this month
Or do I gamble on Bugsy's half step
Yeah, you can
I can pick Milo or Bugsy next month
Just that I'd need about two bundles
To get it
Which I think is fine?
it cycles back to red but it's red and blastoise
should prob be seeing something new otherwise it's a big turnoff to a lot of people
i would not mind a mix red rerun tbch
i missed him and hes definitely the best one of the three we have so far
i havent touched mix since getting pity in october
if its red again dunno if i would
i pitied chase and imo rather just use my paid gems for selects
My money's on them moving to the johto protags
or another cynthia alt lol
i really wouldnt throw money at mix if you have the focus units
Why not actually
I stopped putting my paid gems to mix scout after I got 5/5 mix Leaf, better use those paid gems for incoming NY select banners 👀
Money sink, it's just far too unreliable to actually get what you want. You'd rather use paid gems for selects or dailies on units you do want
Even through the 300 pity?
I guess I dun goofed then 
Mix is good when you new player or have alot units 1/2-5 move lv
For most off us its just bad deal. Like naomi say better use on selects
You can reliably calculate the cost of a wanted unit in mix using the ratrs
For me it costs 4900 gems on average
Which is worse than a 3000 paid gem banner and barely better than a 5000 paid gem one
So after i finish this cycle im probably dropping out too
But indeed ive gotten some good stuff from it
I mostly want to keep my fair support collection alive so even if I miss Milo I can pity
For mix, I only really stop once I get the focus to 5/5
And then spark the limited ones I want but cannot afford on their initial run and rerun
same
good luck beating 2 fire guard moltres even if you get +10 SMUN on every move
so no
aside from moltres
Maybe
Bc you could also have insane gears
Get hit with only min rolls, damage control at will and dodge every dodgeable move (fun fact iron tail on uxie/mega kick on registeel are only 99% accurate)
Specially if you skip the half bar that gives acc buffs
Someone almost did Terrakion with him
Was daze close
No lg this month?
Clearly skill issue /s
good to see Pykuo back
how is what?
and yeah, that's totally a 10/5 Nemona
(because he did submit the past clears too
)

dead for now
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Arc Leon banner will be extended 

who cares, he's washed 
leon or pyuko
what
why would it be pykuo
bros catching strays for no reason
it's funny trust

14/14 almost there 
yeah even if this fails just wait for the exr


Yeah just oneshot bar 3
enduring?

Yeah, she has it in her TM
how many tm mprs did you need
0

I tired of that so i change to DC2 and try to nuke bar 3 instead
Well it works 
Need really good gears tho
gg
well done
dayum
The music 😭
It changed into a short in the middle of watching it lol
I used YT music and it landed on that song, so perfect ngl 
Emotion

this is something really annoying that youtube does yeah. If your video is under a certain time limit (which i believe is 3 minutes) it may become a short
they recently extended short duration limit to 3 minutes instead of 1 yeah
Yes i saw it

I also think it has to do with a video being in portrait mode but don't quote me on that
nicely done Pykuo
Befor was 1m limit now is 3
shorts go up to 3 minutes now
Youtube is becoming tiktok now
Yeah
need gear + grid 
PoMaTools is a Pokémon Masters EX tool that helps users to plan their sync grids while simulating the possible damage outputs.
first sprint unit to hit 14
almost 1 for each arena
maybe chase's superawakening stats will push him over the edge
if not, ss steven and arven will surely get there when they get it
Did LG get skipped this month?
Seems like the case
Yeah
If Rayquaza shit doesn't give LS cookies
I am cooked beyond cooking
I am crisp
I’m so out of deluxes
Same
I am doing rock and ice just not using Candies / Ex roles for it
So Whatever I have is whatever I have
Well i’m gonna 200k ofc
Schedule says it got replaced by Super Sparring, looking at the date.
Rayquaza is literally just Masters Day level co-op.

Mf can't even respect shiny Rayquaza
DeNA on their way to take one thing away from us every update:
No, 2nd-3rd Anniversary was a great period.
Average Gacha game company behavior tbh
After 3rd Anniversary it started going down.
I never played before 3rd
That’s probably not a coincidence, once Ash got released they probably had their big influx and needed to stop caring about the players as much
I mean they were too generous before 3rd anniversary
Not for a pokemon game
It's not too generous if they made more money in that period then in following ones.
They have a responsibility to make their Child friendly IP based Gacha not Pay to win
It's looking more p2w by the day now 
Yeah. For a franchise that targets children
prestiege's ghost be looking over our shoulder
Pay to win what
Superawakening is literally them screaming “Your units are gonna suck ass unless you spend 10k paid gems on their SA banners”
Which we didn't get any of this month.
I thought we got the 1st anni Kantrio
You do not need superawakening to clear content 👍
depends on which unit
certain clears are
gonna need that
but for 99%
nah
you DO NOT
I’ve said the same thing to ropalme: it’s only a matter of time
My boy yveltal got shafted in super awakening
UB is basically a test of what they can get away with
Most units don't even have superawakening, including the best units in the game 👍
UB very hard to be clearable with f2p only tho?
UB is not content you need to clear
Yeah that’s why it’s a test
Most content is possible f2p, only some UBs and EBEs aren't and most of the time you don't need very invested limited either (tho you need the right limited)
If we ever need SA to clear anything, it's in years
man
Speaking of, them releasing a pack for Super Awakening doesn't make me feel any easier on its level of obtainability.
imagine if we can get another +10 energy for superawakening
because it's technically 10/5
Yeah just give them ideas why don't ya.
If it was a bundle then it’d be better
But it’s just a single pack
February.
welp, rally but for SA on february 
This candy you get just buy 3900 gems?
Or more deals? And its limited 1? Any info i like this deal
If it's one candy it's a bad deal
Whales gonna whale
Theyre still giving out lots of free op uniys
hilariously bad
like
ultrawhales aside
no reason
same with orbs
you read my thoughts :T
It's only one.
if I pay, I go for more gems value, not orbs 
of course, if you just buy one of it, that may be fine
I don't think I've seen anything match the gem value per dollar outside of the 1k for 99 cents
one of the 1-time bundle has better value
story bundle or the other i don't remember
but then again it's one time only
True
wait, which one you refer, streak or monthly lol
I think the comparison is being made toward the monthly deal that grants 50k orbs + 1k gems, not the streak bundle that is indeed worth
For now we not sure if lg even come back
Since i dont like dena not mention about lg nothing at all like never exist
Dont worry
it may never come back but people are gonna do solos anyways
cough Cresselia cough
doomposting goes nowhere
“Hating to lose” also in bronze but did he hate to lose his parent?
I’m pretty confident that arc leon gets cob, bulu and latios at 1/5 EXR
what would higher move levels get him after that tho
he should get uxie
nuke/max move bar 2
or b move lmao
geez leon why do u have 3 nuke buttons
his b move activation being burn kinda sucks vs entei who is immune to burn but he can maybe damage through it anyways
his damage is crazy enough i think he might be able to blitz raikou entei azelf and terrakion (remember fire damage field beats out clear advantage)
maybe regirock too
and steel lol
damage isnt the concern for him, its mostly survivability
max healer 2 don't fail him now
nate does have 2 extra forms of DR tho (dr passive on grid & circle)
and he has v quick moves with scale shot so he can burst v quick
So where are the leon solos
no 14 solos in 30 minutes, bad unit 
any minute now 
Arc Suit Leon & Charizard solos Cobalion
2:22 Grid, Lucky Skill, Skill Gear
poor Cobalion
the question is
why did she put Vigilance on him
when he already has it innately
Should I point it out 🤔
yeah would let her roll for something to help with gauge
could've ran FT
texts too long, didn't read 
there you go, she noticed
and now we know he doesn't need a lucky skill to do it
if anything, CS2 would've deleted the bars lol
unless I'm missing something
it's coba, there's damage control involved
cs2 could make things impossible
or just be super counterproductive
eh, I think he has possibility for more

he got bulu and latios at 4/5

oh, who dunnit
anon did (in game clears tab)
maybe rarudo or someone lol
I overestimated him by a lot
he is not good for solos lol
min 3/5 just to get cob 
eh, can possibly be lowered
worse than dexio atm
but he can brute force through more probs
nvm he got azelf too
bro needs to max guard on bar 3 just to not die to wood hammer
Oh he got azelf, lol
for what I can think of...
Azelf, Cobalion, Latios, Raikou (this one relies on clearing by nuking), Bulu, Registeel (has a chance, dunno how well), Uxie
Maybe Latias?
new to the curse of the pure damage dealer
Hard: Raikou, Uxie
Very Hard: Latias, Registeel
well, will check later on to update the doc
don't expect solos to go that swift 
oh, found the user that's doing the solos lol
Hey, Rose got 6 
he has control 
what do you define as "pure"
tbh
"pure" is rare nowadays since most new strikes/DDs at least do something, even Dexio has some small sustain behind it, just not enough
pure damage on the style that can't rely on control from other moves
well at least he beat his base form which has 3 solos
so if the unit has regen it doesn't count?
does leon have any utility outside of burn and fire dmg field
or some form of non damage thingies?
I don’t see it
it should count lol
just protect and attack/drops
Yeah "pure" is very rare then
yeah the 1 atk and 1 spdef drop tile is likely what allows him to even get certain solos
SS Red and NY Lisia are the only things off the top of my head that are "pure"
pure damage just as the moves only focus on... do damage
4 gauge strikers traditionally haven’t been good in this mode too
I guess N is also "pure"?
and Leon’s gauge isn’t that impressive
well after field maybe not, idk
without going for another move to "gain advantage" by interrupting
yeah, yet his style is just do damage
Well Rose also doesn't juggle moves tho
his interrupt move is also his strongest move
because his control is in his main move lol
from what y’all are saying I’d consider arc leon as a pure damage dealer
well, Arc Leon has up to two protects, endurance and a 20% one time heal
but what enabled his solos is precisely that, a damage dealer with its control being on that move that happens to be his main
so depends if that is "pure" or not
not only because "he's doing damage"
But yeah as far as "pure" goes idt you see a lot of timeblitz style clears, I think Rose is already the best example of that
others have sustain or other tools
Rose has to race the steel field clock and get flinches
yup
I guess Lucas is also kind of like that
ss lysandre case where no speed no healing no defense no flinch no sleep
and another "soloer" that's full damage is... regular Leon lol
lacking so many essential things that force you to be more dependent on other units
but in exchange for war crime damage
but I think he should get latios now
with SA, it'd be an insult if he doesn't lol
I think it should not be that complex to do
he'll finally escape hell as the only pokefair with no solo
gloria
it was N, Gloria and SS Lysandre
nvm then
the biggest insult was Lysandre
and n gained solos
as... he's literally... way more recent that the previous two
but Entei has flameproof, so he's fucked lol
N will gain more solos tomorrow

i don't think entei is impossible but we'll have to see
or well, "solos" is plural
is it tmr or
bar 3 sun can easily end up walling and that is the main concern for entei
?
walling who
ss lysandre
yeah but Lysandre can't burn Entei regardless no
it's a half bar set though so we'll get at least one hit in under rain
if anything, there might be a chance for him to solo Moltres? lol
not at all
I can see him reaching bar 3, but that's it lol
why all his multipliers are related to burn...
not a single "Brainpower" or "Brain Sync"
furious brain is pretty important even if not for sync
but yea in dc you can't sacrifice a single burn or your output gets gutted
might be overstating it, it's still 2.2m compared to 2.5m
5 done all requiring 3/5 at minimum, cool
and some good protect timing
note that base leon got max move double down 3 as special lucky skill
probs doesn’t change much here
yep, big nothing lol
They're obsessed with SE next on Leon fsr
How many does Leon have now?
Were there any other new lucky skills added?
Barely
only other new lucky skills are these in the future
They really couldn't be bothered to fix elio's sing accuracy huh
troublemaker 2 would have been really nice yea





