#Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

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chrome halo
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Eri and Adaman being in the same month

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☠️

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i also want Ingo

inner turret
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CRAZY TATE BUFF BarryPogChamp

river cliff
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My +10e I dumped on him is finally paying off

lost juniper
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This is huge if she does

chrome halo
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her B Move only has 2 uses

lost juniper
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Oh I see. Yeah makes sense

gleaming cypress
lost juniper
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It'd be too broken otherwise

chrome halo
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but Drain Punch heals herself crazily if she got buffs

hallow gull
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She has high Atk

gleaming cypress
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wait he already has agg 1 on grid

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wtf 90% flinch zen headbutt???

river cliff
inner turret
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no 60% lol

hallow gull
inner turret
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zen is 20% at base not 30%

hallow gull
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40% -> 60%

gleaming cypress
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oh

dawn plume
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thats actually a considerable upgrade

gleaming cypress
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he's comparable to the iron head and bite flinchers now

dawn plume
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dc tierno seems very good, has way more of his field effect than other dc field pairs since he actually knows sunny day lol

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maybe he should be my next 3/5

shy sinew
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sunny day is the only good thing I see in his kit but I agree on the 3/5 evaluation still

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I was underwhelmed by his base

chrome halo
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Hello Sycamore's exclusive skill is Team Fierce Entry 1? FlanneryYikes

gleaming cypress
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yeah

dawn plume
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tierno has omnidebuffs under sun

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that alone is solid

river cliff
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He's a more offensive version of dc gladion

chrome halo
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Flamethrower HE9 on grid

river cliff
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But with more weather

dawn plume
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he got some nice stuff

chrome halo
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Mind Games 9 is nice too

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but only has Solar Flare 5 and Burn Synergy 5

inner turret
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He looks solid

wide citrus
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So

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How do you guys feel about woke skills

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In terms of LG potential

inner turret
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the real answer is that nobody really cares because who tf will have the resources to use them

wide citrus
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idk

wide citrus
stuck mantle
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So wat about ss ingo how many solos he can do 10/5 exr?

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Any ideas

sturdy steeple
tight rivet
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raihan’s is like the only one thats actually worth

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cuz he struggles a lot with sustain (cuz he didnt have any until now)

rotund rain
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It would make his Please Reconsider solo's easier

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I think

hallow gull
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Yes, finally i can do his solo without suffering too much

inner turret
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you just have to use 5 tech candies for that

tight rivet
sturdy steeple
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Raihan did indeed get exactly what he was lacking

tight rivet
inner turret
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we can already do it?

tight rivet
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no i mean hes already 5/5

inner turret
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ah

tight rivet
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the actual system comes tomorrow

inner turret
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well you need 5 more

tight rivet
stuck mantle
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31 we get it

inner turret
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that's what im saying

stuck mantle
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Not tommorow

hallow gull
tight rivet
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the patch notes are in pst

stuck mantle
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Same day as ingo

tight rivet
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i forgor

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uh

rotund rain
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PT timezone moment

tight rivet
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ok so raihan will never get his woke skill then

sturdy steeple
tight rivet
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dying

shy notch
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Sprint EXR should enable Adaman to solo Cresselia. It’s actually useful here since his gauge runs low because of evasion shenanigans

inner turret
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just hit 5head

dawn plume
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i have 2 tech candies too i’ve been wanting to candy oleana but also adaman is coming back

dawn plume
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my poison roster needs way more help tho loooool

tight rivet
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💀

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i dont remember who i last used them on

dawn plume
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i used 1 on variety lucas 💀 was tired of him being unusable

inner turret
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my last candies were 2 h whitney, 2 sp may, 2 anabel, 2 red lol (also 1 chase)

dawn plume
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i need to candy uhhh

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sc irida

tight rivet
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also do you guys think chandelure looks good

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which one was the sprint again

inner turret
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him

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he does look pretty good imo

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Im pulling

dawn plume
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ss ingo super gimmicky but not bad

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he can do a lot

tight rivet
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i mean if he needs poison i can just oleana it

inner turret
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My ghost roster is so bad, I need a dps lol

tight rivet
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or janine if im on a budget

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oh but wait

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i have sc irida and ssrc

inner turret
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He doesnt need poison to be good

tight rivet
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do i really need him

dawn plume
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hes so weird

tight rivet
inner turret
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poison gives him healing

dawn plume
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also his sync move is mistranslated WEEZing

tight rivet
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the weird thing is that they keep forcing ingo and emmet synergy

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even when it clearly doesnt make sense like now

dawn plume
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he has klara levels of b move weirdness

tight rivet
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klara isnt weird

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like

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once you get past the fluff

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its simple to understand

dawn plume
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yeah its weirder than klara

inner turret
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ingo and emmet's b moves are just a long list of if stuff do thing

tight rivet
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isnt it supposed to be beam

inner turret
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yes lol

tight rivet
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its giving yandere-dev code

dawn plume
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if para: def -2
if burned: sp def -2
if flinch: speed -2
if poison: team heal
if trapped: free move next
if confused: smun ^ 1

inner turret
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isnt klara just a if then else

dawn plume
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thats ingo

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its

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a lot lol

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but his base kit is just burn and confuse

inner turret
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you forgot "if statused or interf: power x2"

dawn plume
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so smun and spdef debuffs

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so damage

rotund rain
dawn plume
rotund rain
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oh wait a minute, I remember scenario's where that can happen

dawn plume
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am i insane or can eri not buff her own atk

shy sinew
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not until 2/5

dawn plume
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outside of running mad strength ls

shy sinew
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oh wait actually 3/5 not 2/5

dawn plume
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oh i see it now

shy sinew
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got that confused with Dexio’s speed buffs that happen at 2/5

dawn plume
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she’s really gonna want dupes then

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her gauge will suffer at 1/5 once circle runs out cuz she wants to run mad strength

shy sinew
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yeah regrettably I still want 3/5 on everyone this update even though with woke system I need to stop spending before this game EOSes on me

dawn plume
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can’t even enjoy the game anymore. because of woke.

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wait hold on base lusamine first pair with infinite damage guard next???????

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just get mpr 5head

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i forgor nemona

heavy sinew
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She could solo azelf

bitter gate
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she can probably solo a few things

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bulu, regirock and azelf

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raikou idt she can do?

heavy sinew
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Evasion TM with heal and damage guard

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Dodge? Attack
Get hit? Pop a TM

kind imp
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Regirock with rock tomb will be pain

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I assume she wants fast track for most things

bitter gate
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ehh, her gauge isn't that bad, just MGR fish kek

kind imp
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500 speed, mgr 3+5
hmm

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I'd be funny if she blizzard freezes through Entei
Or coba

dawn plume
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yeah this is a good grid expansion for lg

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finally doesnt have to sit at no offensive buffs on every non latios stage

gleaming cypress
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getting 4 atk and spa on entry is huge

heavy sinew
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Should've been 6

dawn plume
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wish she got a sync multiplier instead of sync damage guard esp when her tm is also giving damage guard now

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but oh well

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like evasive sync-up 5 or something

gleaming cypress
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she's had like the highest base atk and special attack out of basically everything for now

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not even max invested MF strikers and AFs have more than her

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but she's been pretty much useless everywhere up till now

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perfect example of "stats aren't everything"

river cliff
inner turret
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Yall are not ready for solos with this kind of requirements

sturdy steeple
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(N)

true tartan
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(Gloria)

inner turret
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here are our new colors btw DawnNom

true tartan
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just in case, I've already put all the new things in the other doc

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different scalings lol

kind imp
inner turret
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sorry 45%

blissful rose
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22k gems this month y'all. Saving to be drained in December. WEEZing

shy sinew
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Eri looks like the big LG win of the update

sturdy steeple
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she doesnt die

inner turret
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the big lg win of this update is actually shauna ShaunaInvestigate

shy sinew
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well yeah her too

sturdy steeple
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now we need a third delcatty (skitty egg)

inner turret
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She should be getting about the same lol

river cliff
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She probably gets latias

inner turret
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heck, she's physical so regirock isn't 100% out of the question SophoKEK (but probably not happening)

true tartan
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the only issue she would have is Cobalion there, I suppose

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if she can't burst down fast* enough RosaThink

rocky oasis
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she does have tech ex haymaker

sturdy steeple
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Coba is def doable just annoying

inner turret
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and def debuff

dawn plume
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shauna unironically really good

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idek what lucky skill she runs

inner turret
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troublemaker, unironically

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that or you give her +2e

dawn plume
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even though she can +6 accuracy and -6 evasion?

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well she has to headbutt to debuff evasion ig

true tartan
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yeah, spam ability

inner turret
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unless you pick the sing acc tile, but for what I think is her best grid you can't afford it unless +2e

dawn plume
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they gave her healthy healing to neuter her dc potential AcerolaPensive (shes a tech anyways)

inner turret
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2 energy to spare without acc vs need +2e with acc

river cliff
inner turret
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she can drop def lol

river cliff
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Ok mg2 lol

inner turret
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bleh

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very situational ngl

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but you can also just, +2e her lol it's fine

river cliff
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Literally just latias

tight rivet
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she literally has like sub 100 defenses

river cliff
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All the damage guard stuff is the only way she could ever net more solos, so it might be better than multipliers

tight rivet
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ex barely gets her over 100

inner turret
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she might finally solo azelf ngl

river cliff
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Latias is also on the table

inner turret
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im not too hopeful about azelf but i wouldn't be shocked either if it happened

sturdy steeple
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Dodge literally everything

inner turret
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bulu is definitely happening

lost juniper
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Entei too

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Just reset for freeze and dodges

tight rivet
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when are they gonna give sentry entry x2 to a unit

river cliff
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Marlon personal ls

dawn plume
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he NEEDS it

rocky oasis
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he's so squishy

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especially at 4*

tender horizon
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What the hell

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Op

dawn plume
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n’s biggest issue is still gauge

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there might be a universe where he can just damage rush torn now

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still no exr though lmao

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old pokefairs getting exr this month are cynthia lance steven and ingo only

rocky oasis
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honestly his gauge is bad enough that i will take sprint

dawn plume
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ss cynthia 🤝 alder 🤝 gloria 🤝 marnie

pokefairs with no ex role OR superawakening

kind imp
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Alder with no lodge or alt
Bug type arc thingie in the code tho

dawn plume
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meanwhile there are 5 pokefairs getting superawakening with no ex role

sturdy steeple
rocky oasis
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i will take ANYTHING honestly

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he's an old unit and he feels like it

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he needs the update

tight rivet
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he doesnt buff crit until he syncs right

rocky oasis
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n, alder and gloria are all showing their age

rocky oasis
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tho he can have follow through on TM

lost juniper
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Not for solos but he'll be a competent damage dealer with it

rocky oasis
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no way most of us can afford it

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i sure cant

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4/5 N is it for me

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I aint a oil baron

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how many of us can seriously afford 10/10 lbr

heavy sinew
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I can only go for 1

stuck mantle
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Honestly wat this help for them get new solo?

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Ss steven need like para or pierce blows passive for torn

quaint tartan
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Loving how speak about 10/5 but is the whalest thing ever released LarryDead

shy sinew
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Any 10/5s I get will happen because I’m pulling for other characters

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I’ll probably get my first around next datamine, maybe a bit before because I’ll get the new Eevees, but I won’t spend it until then

inner turret
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not even true bcs if you have a pair 5/5 and pull it again you don't get 6/5, you specifically have to upgrade manually with fcking candies LarryDead

shy sinew
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it’s 10/5-ish though

inner turret
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it's 5/5 + 5 candies

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the ultimate whale thing

stuck mantle
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10/10 10/5 its same thing:) simpel pay too win. Now even more

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This make diff not in lg for now

inner turret
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f2p players no longer have a single chance of competing lmfao

stuck mantle
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But hse

shy sinew
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it’s not even something you should expect to get for everyone, I just see it as options you slowly work toward as a byproduct of getting other pairs and then saying “oh I can superawaken someone, let me do that”

stuck mantle
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Yeap but you need go too some round off scout for this candy

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So its not like you get fast copy and save gems . Then not get it

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Just pokefairs banner are look like arc banner now

shy sinew
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right, the point is it’ll still happen eventually

stuck mantle
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Yeap

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But take some time and also hard choise who maks out if have only 1 option

lost juniper
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I'm pretty sure they'll give us easier ways to earn these candies like how we had it with role cakes

stuck mantle
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Not expect it

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Exr is like bonus this is too big stuff give for free

dawn plume
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its a dumb mechanic that the average player is never ever going to use imma b real

quaint tartan
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Cannot expect it bc first 500 points pity now this LarryDead

dawn plume
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i dont see myself ever getting enough materials to use this and i have 4 5/5 pokefairs

stuck mantle
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Dena is company

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Company need make money

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Not friends

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Its just buisnes

dawn plume
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cant even whale this cuz you cant scout past 5/5

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literally ONLY candies

quaint tartan
stuck mantle
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You can just for candys

dawn plume
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they want people to buy the candy bundle

quaint tartan
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And the one I think deserve the 10/5 are like….1/5
rip grusha

dawn plume
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dont be shocked when a superawakening bundle drops next month

quaint tartan
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Only Raihan and ingo on the go

stuck mantle
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I do oleana and nemona

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For sure

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Olena for dc super passive

dawn plume
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it just feels pointless?

stuck mantle
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Nemona perma flinch

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Not sure if they give bundles

dawn plume
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like i dont think dena realizes how much of an investment it is to 5/5 a single unit

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now they want us to double it

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who is doing this

stuck mantle
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You have

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Snow luri

dawn plume
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it feels out of touch lol

stuck mantle
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They sure will do first day

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Some off them

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But if this 10/5 make new solos?

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Not sure about it wat happend

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Some passive just 1-3 sync reduce?

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Sun more zone ?

tender horizon
dawn plume
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the more i think about it the dumber it seems

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only way this becomes reasonable is if they start giving out full candies for events instead of coins

stuck mantle
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It will be too easy

sturdy steeple
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its just a thing for you to invest more into your faves

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the fact that theyre dropping all of these awakenings in 3 batches shows they know its not the kind of thing to dripfeed us and subsequently profit off of

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the fact that you cant even whale for dupes for to unlock awakening also indicates that

sturdy steeple
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works for me

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they sometimes dont load

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but a refresh takes care of it

river cliff
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I still think they're going to give us other ways to acquire superawakening candies. Player engagement is important and making them rewards for events, even if they're just drip-fed, is a good incentive. I feel like if they really wanted to just cater to whales they'd make a lot of these passives better

sturdy steeple
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Yes

lost juniper
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And have them flex 10/10

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I think like how we get vouchers for cakes in Rally, we'd get something similar here too

river cliff
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Most of them feel less powerful than ex roles as well, so if they aren't going to paywall roll cakes paywalling these make no sense

rotund rain
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hopefully in that teased gamemode from the anni dev letter

worthy horizon
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would be nice but very concerning that they aren't mentioning that already

tight rivet
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penny is literally adrenaline 3 and grusha has the field ex (minus extension but he also has ext3 so kinda?)

river cliff
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Another thing is that why even have a different type of candy just for this instead of just the normal candies?

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They definitely don't want us getting more normal candies but it would be a good way to reward us with something without breaking their economy

lost juniper
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Well I wouldn't say they don't want us to use regular candies, since they'd want the whales to do it, but yeah

river cliff
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True, but it's a way to give us something without breaking what they've already established. Plus it still incentivizes people to use candies on older pairs since you need 5/5 to access these in the first place

shy sinew
tight rivet
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specially when some of them literally just have built in exrs in that passive

river cliff
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Then you also have pairs like Ingo where they got an awful ex role in which case their superawakening passive is miles better

shy notch
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Lodge Shauna looks so good for LG. She would’ve been top tier in DC if it wasn’t for healthy healing (why couldn’t this be a grid node)

worthy horizon
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charging infliction still makes her worse bp barry healthy healing aside

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worse accuracy and relies on external para

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i guess her simultaneous defense drops could make her better colress

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in some situations

river cliff
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She isn't a support either so that also makes her strictly worse for dc

rocky oasis
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tech ex for gauntlet tho... AAAElio

dawn plume
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lodge shauna is incredible

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i said lear was the best tech since serena but shauna might be better than N

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well, she's better at sleep chaining

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she has no DPS

median swan
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doesn't need it if the opponent doesn't move ShaunaInvestigate

dawn plume
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her innate multiplier being status condition kinda sucks, means she cant nuke bars like N can either

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for arenas like moltres or registeel

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but for any stage that never becomes immune to sleep, she might be the best sleep chainer in the game

median swan
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she can just flinch them TabithaHehe (but i get what you mean)

dawn plume
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yea having flinch to fall back on is really good too

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still another lodge delcatty is... interesting... but i guess they're saving goodra for her eventual DC pair

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goodra as a dragon field kinda makes sense

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realized they chose tierno so every region can have a dc pair

raven crane
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She isn't just stonewalled by sleep immunity.

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She came with a PLAN B.

river cliff
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Pretty similar to ss cyrus in that regard

raven crane
sturdy steeple
chrome halo
sturdy steeple
dawn plume
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oh wow my fav pokemon is also an unnoteworthy unevolved gen 3 mon

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i like numel

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this is why i bought courtney when she dropped loooool

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maybe when they release TabithaHehe from npc jail

sturdy steeple
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please,,

rocky oasis
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egg skitty when

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nvm skitty aint gen 1

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so dena DGAF

sturdy steeple
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Nooo

rocky oasis
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not a huge skitty fan

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but i AM a big linoone fan

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And ive accepted that nobody in DENA gives a fuck about our favorite kleptomaniac

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I love this little guy

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The only time I can see them paying my favorite little rare candy thief any attention is if they ever added a norman alt for some reason

shy notch
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Skitty is too cute to not get a pair at some point

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And I’d say Linoone is also iconic

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I’d expect Lodge Norman to get Vigoroth. Not holding my breath for another alt for him unless it’s variety

rocky oasis
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maybe a palentines unit w/ skitty

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that would be cute

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linoone was my favorite HM slave for the hoenn games

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Like pick up is such a good ability for nuzlockes

sturdy steeple
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I am begging I am pleading

shy notch
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Rich Boy Winston and Linoone (with nugget) please

rocky oasis
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remaining old genpool w/o expansion bc anything after this kinda works fine as is

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except for looker

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looker is ass

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huh i keep forgetting how old dawn is

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older than may even

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piers and mallow are fine as is i guess

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may bianca serena volkner fine too

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its selene who is the stinker of alola

bitter gate
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My waifu deserves an expansion

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huffs copium

rocky oasis
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olivia and gladion next please

river cliff
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Lisia and Nate are the ones I'm very curious as to if they can be salvaged

rocky oasis
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maybe debuff options or heals idk

bitter gate
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Giving Recup to Lisia alone would help quite a bit

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But I'm confident

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She can do more

rocky oasis
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the other altaria is a decent debuffer

river cliff
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Another aggravation tile would be nice

bitter gate
rocky oasis
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not that you wanna sync w/ her and lose twister

bitter gate
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Give her staggering

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So she keeps it

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Post sync

river cliff
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Oh there you go

bitter gate
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That's just way better tbh

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Presync can abuse better rates, post sync can keep it while having better bulk and damage

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Win win

river cliff
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You'd have to tie it to moonblast or something so that she doesn't have crazy flinch chances

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Pre sync

bitter gate
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Giving her the ingo passive would also be great

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Though I doubt they'd be that generous

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Critical eye maybe

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Since her SpA is high enough that +2 isn't complete shit

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Staggering crit eye recup alone would give her a lot of mileage

rocky oasis
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more realistic buff canidates

river cliff
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A multiplier or two would also be nice

bitter gate
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It'll be gladion next

rocky oasis
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honestly dawn doesnt really need the buff but as a support shes been kinda getting lackluster

river cliff
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Hilbert too

bitter gate
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Then Hilbert Brendan Olivia at random

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Hilbert is easy to "fix"

rocky oasis
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ss grims can wait i guess

bitter gate
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He's perfectly fine, he's just squishy as all hell

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Giving him healing alone does wonders

rocky oasis
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idk how to even fix this guy and make him useable as a striker and not just a flinchbot

river cliff
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I'd like another aggravation tile

median swan
river cliff
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Ss grimsley is another great staggering pick

bitter gate
river cliff
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Though I'm sure they'd tie it to aqua jet LarryDead

median swan
bitter gate
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Well, Lusamine's is good for LG specifically

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Probably gives her some extra solos

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But still variance attached kek

rocky oasis
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just dodge everything!

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gl

bitter gate
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I'd be surprised if Gladion gets a high quality expansion

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Given how low power level buffs the past few expansions have been

river cliff
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Not with dc existing he won't

median swan
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my lol it's not gonna happen but can you imagine dream is sync burst

bitter gate
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Like between Wallace Sabrina

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And was it lyra?

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When was the last time we got an actually good MD expansion

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It was ages ago I think

rocky oasis
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sabrina was great

river cliff
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Wallace was almost great

bitter gate
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Was it?

median swan
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morty

rocky oasis
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doesnt change her fundementally but it made her better at what she already does

bitter gate
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Mortys was gr8

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No doubt about it

median swan
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also jasmine tbh but morty's is like kris's

bitter gate
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Giving a non crit unit crit alone will do that to you

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It's not a significant change overall but

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Still very helpful

rocky oasis
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i keep having the problem of sab dying bc im using her heal on another unit so double endure makes my mistakes way less obnoxious

river cliff
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She still has a pretty solid grid aside from that

bitter gate
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Yeah her grid is excellent for her age

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Crit mostly added the main missing link

rocky oasis
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like sab is a QOL upgrade

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i like it

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not a huge buff but its ok

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only problem w/ jasmine is her energy costs

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id love to have 100k orbs to drop on her ngl

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she has so many solid options and i cant afford them all VolknerDed

bitter gate
#

I did her Raikou solo

#

Expanded jasmine does wonders

twin aurora
#

Damn why Alt.Iris awakening skill is so bad in terms that she got Sprint EXR instead of strike

sturdy steeple
#

dont worry her arc unit will go crazy

stuck mantle
#

If she get it🧐

#

We got dragon arc master already:)

rocky oasis
#

Meh

#

Idc about arc iris

#

I want hydreigon ghetsis

#

bc that thing is a fucking terror

#

He massacres so many nuzlocke teams

#

total menace to society

sturdy steeple
#

She will be dark

sturdy steeple
karmic willow
#

If next time

#

i don't do gauntlet anymore

#

see you guys later

#

XD

worthy horizon
#

o7

karmic willow
#

but

#

I will try my best to find my way back

#

crawl from the pits of VPN hell

worthy horizon
#

yeah when it comes to internet stuff there's usually some form of workaround possible

stuck mantle
#

Why you need vpn ? Lol too play lg

worthy horizon
#

eos announced for vietnam

stuck mantle
#

And rosa stan is from vietnam?

worthy horizon
#

seems so

#

gakon and pykuo too

stuck mantle
#

Hmm not sure if vpn will work

#

If server end ? Strange they shut down just 1 country

brisk sapphire
#

Vietnam laws

worthy horizon
stuck mantle
#

Hmm but game is published already🤣🙂‍↔️🙂‍↔️

#

Its just running laws are realy strange

tender horizon
#

Chinese players do the same anyways

tender horizon
karmic willow
#

Alt iris awakening skill bad

#

Like

#

Should have been omni debuff

#

One for every stat on entry

#

While awakening skills are certainly strong

#

Some does a lot more

#

But i feel that they are boring for most

#

Ss Leaf is crazy

blissful rose
#

I just wished SS Leaf got to buff her own stats instead of relying on someone else.

karmic willow
#

Wait for side expansion

#

Maybe

#

Grand Entry 2

#

Something something

stuck mantle
#

Cant wait test nemona prema flinch😁 10/5

karmic willow
#

Nah buff selene

#

I want her to solo bulu easier

#

So imagine stoic 2

#

Sync regen

#

Or something

#

Or you know fatter nuke

worthy horizon
#

it already easy

#

at least i didn't struggle with it all last time whether that was luck or not

tender horizon
#

I wanna say

#

They obviously designed SS Ingo for vs Uxie and nothing else

#

And thats so dull

#

10 out of 10 times a new ghost unit releases, it matches Uxie perfectly but no one asked for tht

#

Like i dont need another will o wisp confusion unit outside of LG

gleaming cypress
#

are ss submas good in this mode overall

tender horizon
#

Yes

#

One has curative confusion and the other is a flinchbot

bitter gate
#

his rate isn't that good though, be mindful

#

I expect Ingo to do about what, ten

gleaming cypress
#

well I’m all broke anyway so at least I know I ain’t missing out

bitter gate
#

Moltres is not impossible, funnily enough

#

he has the passives and stuns to go through it but not the scaling

inner turret
#

Can Moltres be confused

#

I think yes but not sure

bitter gate
#

he can yes

#

just not burned, so his nuke is halved

inner turret
#

Ok so you can use his B Move

bitter gate
#

but he also has great gauge and staggering coinflip

#

yeah, you can

inner turret
#

So technically Moltres is possible yes

#

and so is any flinch chainable LA

bitter gate
#

I think he has a good shot at 13

inner turret
bitter gate
#

outside of Moltres, actually

#

since he also has ruthless

inner turret
#

Tornadus impossible but the rest yeah

bitter gate
#

Emmet I feel is a bit worse off

#

terrakion will need awakening unless it somehow brute forces it with stuns

#

lol

#

wouldn't be surprised if he actually does it

inner turret
#

Havent even looked at emmet's grid

bitter gate
#

he only has a 40% stun rate

#

which isn't bad but also worse off

#

a lot of bulk though

sturdy steeple
#

Para flinch is good gimmick countering

bitter gate
#

he will struggle against the Cress matchup mostly

inner turret
#

Aggravation 3

#

So 40% para, meh

bitter gate
#

but in exchange he has a better Torn matchup

#

it might be like the Klara/Avery fight again, lol

#

I think Sina also has a good shot at 13?

true tartan
bitter gate
#

moltres is off limits

#

Mfw I was going to argue that Fall Shauntal suceeded vs Regirock

stuck mantle
#

So ingo how many can get?

bitter gate
#

but I forget that she won torn rather than regi

#

lol

#

she's also rock weak, so she has to rely on evasion and the coinflip I guess

#

she has HE4

#

Idt regi is impossible for her unlike Shauntal

#

but yeah, we might see multiple 13s

#

Eri also probably gets 13?

#

maybe 12 because of cress

lost juniper
#

He has debuffs, evasion, flinch and healing. That deals with everyone but the annoying duo

#

Also confuse and burn for Uxie

lost juniper
bitter gate
#

i think she can outgrind torn

lost juniper
#

She's flying weak

bitter gate
#

it's mostly a matter of speed vs flameproof

#

moltres*

#

oops

#

yeah, torn is probably a lost cause

#

despite her healing

lost juniper
#

She can easily duo Torn, but solo is impossible

#

She just can't deal with Bar 1

#

Rain boosted hurricanes wreck her

bitter gate
#

makes sense

#

we have a few 13s, not sure about the variety eevees

#

I think Hilbert and Calem can do maybe 12

#

Hilda is just the worst of the eevees unless I'm missing something

#

Dexio can do maybe idk, 6 or 7

#

probably the lesat LG centric unit fo the batch

dawn plume
#

oh i missed ingo having staggering

stuck mantle
#

So ingo 12 nice

#

Will do his solo when get him

bitter gate
#

i think 13 is possible

#

moltres isn't outlandish

stuck mantle
#

10/5 make sens do him?

inner turret
#

evasion is nice but not enough

lost juniper
#

He has debuffs too

inner turret
#

yeah ruthless 9

#

he stole ss lyra's tool

dawn plume
#

tbh i didnt look at his grid at all whoops yeah hes good

#

maybe i pull so i can have 3 ingos and 0 emmets SophoKEK

inner turret
#

If I get ingo I have 2 of each lol

dawn plume
#

though i’ve been meaning to candy sc irida too

#

hmm

#

i shouldnt pull tbh i dont have enough gems to guarantee him anyways

inner turret
#

irida is strike, ingo is sprint

#

unless you mean that they're both ghost

dawn plume
#

yea but they r both ghost, im thinking coverage

#

yea

inner turret
#

What's scarier than 1 ghost

#

I think SC irida and SS ingo have a good synergy too

#

Both are special, ingo provides SMUN to the team, irida gives trap so Ingo has permanent free move...

#

Lowkey a great duo lol

#

Irida takes care of sides with her sync and when it's done Ingo nukes mid

dawn plume
#

ghost UB will need both LarryDead

inner turret
#

no interference: def spd x3
first half is immune to confusion, 2nd to trap

heavy sinew
lost juniper
chrome halo
#

Is that basically Leon but with status requirements

inner turret
#

leon has status requirement

#

im pretty sure

chrome halo
#

It's been a while since i last fought him

lost juniper
dawn plume
#

dont wanna pull too many ghost pairs for meta when i know volo w origin giratina will come eventually

#

that will be real meta…

#

inb4 he’s support for some reason

tender horizon
#

Multi

copper helm
#

Hi there
Long time no see
Lesser interest in game for me (but i don’t quit)
Is there new good pair to wait for?
I think of Submas

dawn plume
#

ss ingo and eri seem like they will be good lg pairs but they really want 3/5

copper helm
#

I have support candy for someone, but not really a candidate

sturdy steeple
#

If you pull on eri, she's worth candies

karmic willow
#

i want eri so bad

#

For the monke

heavy sinew
#

Monkey

shy notch
#

Annihilape is one of my favorite Pokémon but I feel very meh about Eri

sturdy steeple
#

Why's that

karmic willow
#

Remind me that this is actually doable

#

この2つ自分のやつで草
Cマリィ+卵ブラッキーは比較的簡単。
難しいのはCセレナ単騎。
既存のやり方とは違いシンクロ技は全て3ゲージ目に使用。
1、2ゲージ目は40%のゲージ回復を祈る。
良かったら動画見てみて下さい🙇

#

marnie umbreon

#

exr goes HARD

#

"C Marnie + Egg Umbreon is relatively easy."

lost juniper
karmic willow
#

2 sync moves it dies

#

So

#

I would add a pot eggmon just to get it done

river cliff
#

Egg umbreon has become one of my favorite eggmons, it helps out so many clears

lost juniper
karmic willow
#

Either or

rocky oasis
#

30% flinch gaming

#

even if theres no dark units left its still useful

heavy sinew
kind imp
#

I think she can even solo

#

2 mpr away

inner turret
#

and b move doesn't kill here ?

#

bcs if you got so far, that looks like a possible solo

true tartan
#

burned tho lol

#

hurts to see it

inner turret
#

idk how she was built so I can't tell for sure, but with 3 sync buffs she has some b move rolls that deal more that 49% of tornadus' health

#

so really i don't see how you lost lol

#

unless like, he queue'd before you on half bar into hurricane confusion into you die

lost juniper
#

Average Tornadus experience

kind imp
inner turret
#

Aaah

heavy sinew
dawn plume
#

i would cry

dawn plume
#

rafa awakening from his slumber to post 10 new anni raihan solo videos this reset

sturdy steeple
#

you better believe it

gleaming cypress
#

how does anyone have the resources for the day 1 SA

gleaming cypress
dawn plume
#

anything that can be permaflinched

#

registeel and cobalion and i THINK cresselia become possible

#

which would make him 11/14

#

also would make his existing ones much easier

heavy sinew
dawn plume
#

emmet also might get some new ones

#

base emmet

#

if anyone has him hyper invested...

heavy sinew
#

Moltres inbound

dawn plume
#

aight i dunno about that one

lost juniper
#

Anni Raihan unironically can get 14/14 with 10/5

heavy sinew
#

Triple mgr it can happen

dawn plume
#

i dont see how he gets past regirock

lost juniper
#

Nuke, heals, dodges

#

Regirock is vulnerable to evasion and Raihan can do that

#

You also won't be debuffed if Regirock never hits

dawn plume
#

hmm

lost juniper
#

Raihan's healing is also untied to weather

#

So it works all the time. If Cyrus got it, Raihan also can

dawn plume
#

what about tornadus

lost juniper
#

Dodge moves on Bar 1, max move on Bar 2, outlast Bar 3

#

Raihan on weather has insane defenses for a tech

#

He'll be very hard to put down, especially now that he can heal, and since Rafa is the biggest Anni Raihan fan out there, he'll probably do it

dawn plume
#

sandstorm does do 1/32 health, just get enough mprs and tornadus will kill itself after 32 moves EthanGenius

lost juniper
#

Just give him interference immunity and it dies

#

Like Tornadus will not be able to do anything

toxic kernel
#

that’s still 5 tech candies for activating 10/5 tho

heavy sinew
#

it can't be 5 tech candies, it has to be something else, right?

#

RIGHT?

shy sinew
#

or 5 woke essences

dawn plume
#

i'm sorry you had to find out this way

toxic kernel
#

Or pulling on banners for the awakening candies

shy sinew
#

you could get there with 10 multis on two banners and 5 multis on a third

dawn plume
#

pokefairs give awakening candies on the 5th and 10th multis yeah

toxic kernel
#

That’s 30k gems lmao

dawn plume
#

so just 15k gems for one!

lost juniper
#

I'm pretty sure we're gonna get easier ways to obtain these like with role cakes

dawn plume
#

hmm Hopium

lost juniper
#

Specifically for the superawakening candies

toxic kernel
#

I don’t question Rafa’s simp for Raihan, I just wonder does he have the resources to do it now

toxic kernel
#

5 tech candies in hand BarryPogChamp

dawn plume
lost juniper
#

He'd use omnis too

#

If he has to

toxic kernel
#

So he can in principle test the bp multiplier soon?

lost juniper
#

I mean that can be tested after tomorrow when pomatools would be updated

bitter gate
#

you seem confident it'll be updated by tmr lol

lost juniper
#

Honestly I'm not sure, but I think it'll be in the next few days

#

I guess the hardest part is implementing the 10/5 passives

bitter gate
#

he's mentioned it'll take a while, but we can derive mechanics off the in game visuals of the BP buffs

dawn plume
#

not surprised a giant update like this is taking a while yeah

heavy sinew
#

rafa will probably get one by the first hour of the reset

dawn plume
#

registeel is cooked fs

#

that was always the next closest reasonable one

vital ibex
#

and the update wont be "anytime soon"

#

so we kinda just gotta use ingame/brybry for the time being

heavy sinew
#

damn

lost juniper
#

That's sad but I get why he takes the break

#

This shit is hard af to do

vital ibex
#

yeah, especially having 20+ new units to suddenly add upgrades to

#

i would too that's a lot

bitter gate
#

performance disparity between awakenings is also a bit scary

#

so best to be mindful about needing a 10/5 for clear I guess

river cliff
#

Definitely a "favorites only" thing for most

bitter gate
#

you will have "tryhard" paradigms

vital ibex
#

grimsley not having a limited alt is suddenly biting me in the ass

dawn plume
#

iris's is so bad LMAO

vital ibex
#

i was grateful before now i'm jealous 💔

bitter gate
#

I'd say Rose's is the worst

dawn plume
#

rose and oleana have the exact same

#

kinda iconic...

river cliff
#

Poppy's is also quite bad

bitter gate
#

While not especially big for LG Iris getting a 2/4 opening can be useful

shy sinew
#

I’ll wait a month for my Penny to go woke and then see what I can get with her now

bitter gate
#

Poppy essentially said "lets remove one of the things that Rose is better than me at"

bitter gate
#

and I guess the flat stats

#

idt it matters that much for LG specifically

#

Oleana's is also kinda w/e, yeah

gleaming cypress
#

it’s sad honestly

bitter gate
#

but it's also an opener

bitter gate
#

remember that 1-4 gives her 40% more flat BP

#

which for Popppy specifically is a lot

river cliff
#

Volo and anni Raihan are the only two I think are really worth anything

shy sinew
#

I like the early DR in theory, early survivability is much more of a choke point for Penny than it should be

bitter gate
#

like while it doesn't matter as much for LG, the damage-based 1-4s are immense and make fairs probably more powerful than potentially even arc fairs

shy sinew
#

Volo’s looks good and I like his kit but I just feel bad using him with the stat line he has

bitter gate
#

nemona's is also kinda nice

#

she now has 64% stun rate

#

if you get both

river cliff
#

All I want is for Paulo to get at least sand on his first sync when he gets his

#

He'd net quite a few more solos with just one more use of sand

bitter gate
#

give me team fist bump on Anabel

#

and I can do up to three more solos on her

#

or any decent form of healing, really

#

but Anabel also gets increased value from raw stats anyhow

lost juniper
#

Just in time before she gets her superawakening boost

dawn plume
#

oh lowered nice

lost juniper
#

Technically someone can lower it further to 4/5 EX without the +8E but the run was so annoying it wasn't worth for me to try

toxic kernel
#

Next we will have 10/5 EXR +10E available on the clear list TabithaHehe

bitter gate
#

how early would anyone even get that lol

heavy sinew
#

i give it 11 minutes

bitter gate
#

luri herself wanted to expand diantha but idt it'll help her get any more solos more than just

#

up consistency

dawn plume
#

well cynthia also gets her exr this reset

#

in addition to superawakening lol

#

that probably would work instead of +8e

#

my brain is telling me dont exr base steven he sucks but my heart is telling me yes...

sturdy steeple
#

So many units to support cake this month

heavy sinew
#

i shouldve waited until i caked marnie

#

tbf i have a tech cake incoming so not all is lost

sturdy steeple
#

Marnie is still very worth

chrome halo
#

hopefully i have enough gems and luck to get both Eri and Adaman

#

have to skip Ingo WhitneySad

#

btw how many Eri solos are expected?

heavy sinew
#

14/14 trust

crimson stratus
#

I want eri and ss ingo

dawn plume
heavy sinew
#

she will get moltres and torn

dawn plume
#

flying weak

#

before u say bianca bianca has piercing blows and flinches lol

#

nah but eri will have a lot

#

she may need to run fast track cuz once circle runs out her gauge can suffer a bit

sturdy steeple
#

Which is totally fine, she very much can afford to run fast track

dawn plume
#

exr might be enough for steven to solo entei, i was super close to bar 3 once with just +10e

#

if no one gets it by the time i'm done w work tomorrow i might try

worthy horizon
#

i'll prob cake him first

#

he really needs it

bitter gate
#

Oh, base Steven

#

Yeah it's a pretty big improvement

#

If you cake and invest

#

I just wish he had better gauge management

worthy horizon
#

yeah it doesn't address that since it's his biggest issue but any upgrade is very needed

#

cynthia and lance duos are far more solid even if optimal

bitter gate
#

Lance should be able to solo azelf now

#

I'm quite sure he can

#

Enlightenment and pots

worthy horizon
#

gauge still too awful and no time to let fast track ramp up

#

is my guess at least

#

oh yeah and you can't run fast track either

#

ofc

#

10/5 can be strong enough to overcome that i was thinking about role only

stuck mantle
#

10/5 lance? Like why🤣 this one off unit wat realy not worth spend recource

worthy horizon
#

idk but someone will at some point

bitter gate
#

When I was doing the eventually eggmon duo this LG

#

He just lacked damage and bulk

#

That EX support will give

#

He has to have at least +8E for ferocity, both pots, rejuv and haymaker

#

If no one ends up doing it I could do it

#

It's not like I have anything good to throw a support cake on anyway

#

It also wouldn't be the first time I invested in lance for science

river cliff
#

Is cynthia worth the exr? It seems like it'd make stuff like her moltres duo harder since you don't want to do too much damage

bitter gate
#

Id say for LG be reserved yes

#

The excess output may backfire

worthy horizon
#

i did cynthia/grant on moltres with sand blaster 5 and fierce entry 1

#

could just remove those and end up at a similar spot and if not you can use less attack boosts

#

surging sand 2 as well

bitter gate
#

Fair

#

She gets diminishing returns anyway

#

96 rather than 150

river cliff
worthy horizon
#

idr exactly why i ended up not doing that but that's what i ended up most comfortable with

bitter gate
#

The less damage she deals by sync the better

#

The point is to allow for better on demand control of sand for Moltres

worthy horizon
#

well maybe but i'm not sure you were actually going to the extent of +0 atk and crit

#

so you could always lower those to compensate for buffs

#

i definitely didn't mind keeping some power on cynthia even after maxed atk and crit

#

sand blaster is irrelevant for damage control bc the ones you need that for are under sun

#

i'm rewatching my recording

#

only damage control imperfection i had was maybe spending 3 more turns under sun than i needed to on bar 3

#

not sure it would have been the biggest deal even if i didn't keep moltres flinched then

#

oh also cynthia got 0 gear attached

#

i don't have much reason to cake her anyway but if i wanted to for other reasons i think i'd be fine for moltres still

river cliff
#

Could be a good anti-weather rally pick for strike tech but there are also just way better options

inner turret
#

So 2/5 ingo lol

#

Let's what I can do

bitter gate
#

nice, I got one copy myself

stuck mantle
#

Hehe

#

Walk in park

bitter gate
#

how do you get the candies again

#

i don't see exchanges

stuck mantle
#

From scout you have

bitter gate
#

but how did you get 5 of them lol

#

idt one scout covers them all

stuck mantle
#

Scout have 2

bitter gate
#

and the other 3?

stuck mantle
#

3 i exvhange

bitter gate
#

from where

#

i couldn't find it in the shop

stuck mantle
#

From menu

#

Unit

#

When its 5/5

#

Have superaawakenig

#

Then its show exchange

rocky oasis
#

you must have a lot of candy holy shit

stuck mantle
#

And can exhcange

worthy horizon
#

upgrade menu has superawakening as an option and you can exchange from there

bitter gate
#

ahh, now I see it

stuck mantle
#

I have 18 candy gold and 440 coins gold😏

bitter gate
stuck mantle
#

When you realy not use them just scout

#

Have alot i always save this stuff

#

Like 300 coins have strike sup tech

#

90+ sprint field

bright brook
#

raihan solo where

stuck mantle
#

Not me 🤣

#

Ask his fan

bright brook
#

not asking just u tho

inner turret
bitter gate
#

lmao, luri superawakened Ingo too, lmao

true tartan
#

so you went to get Ingo 5/5 scouting?

sturdy steeple
bitter gate
#

yeah people are just

#

hard hamming

#

@stuck mantle can you

#

screenshot the main move screen

#

for your superawakened mon

#

that helps us figure out the mechanic scaling

#

click on the hex move for BP

stuck mantle
#

Next done

bitter gate
#

screenshot it so we know the math, hue

stuck mantle
#

Wat screen?

bitter gate
#

or just tell me how many BP Hex has

stuck mantle
#

He

bitter gate
#

this one

stuck mantle
#

A

true tartan
stuck mantle
#

Lurri my competion like befor for solos😏

bitter gate
#

1.1 x 1.3 vs 1.4

true tartan
#

additive

#

#916852044692856834 message

#

start from there

stuck mantle
#

Done so wat now try?

bitter gate
#

I see, thanks

bitter gate
#

and moltres

#

flinch bot the movie hue

stuck mantle
#

Zone is just one time set

#

Haha

bitter gate
#

just time it for the second and third bar

#

and kill fast

stuck mantle
#

Second bar?

#

Hhm can try

bitter gate
#

for terrakion

#

just kill fast

stuck mantle
#

This need alot time for it im going too work try if luri not do it🤣

#

Issue is ground move is one hit ko after half bar 1

bitter gate
#

yeah you have to stun

#

lol

stuck mantle
#

I now but need luck so try when have time

karmic willow
#

so just play damage control better

river cliff
#

Isn't the point not to do too much damage?

karmic willow
#

hey, if it punches through 50%

#

then it's a different story

#

plus

#

you got stalls from grant

#

so i don't think it's THAT bad

#

again, just play better damage control

river cliff
#

I get the feeling you might need superawakened multupliers to pull that off

#

If you don't do over 50% at the beginning of bar 2 you're kind of screwed

#

So it's easier to just do less

karmic willow
#

you either

#

do less

#

or do too much

#

lmfao

river cliff
#

So exring is detrimental unless you can hit that threshold

karmic willow
#

i am guessing somewhere along the lines of WW3

#

like this one

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be my guest if anyone wants to test

river cliff
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I'm skeptical of haymaker + the tech ex hitting 50% with a mega sync. Maybe with inertia she can

sturdy steeple
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because the sand setting happens before the bar change

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so you need to damage control

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it does make cynthias moltres duo harder, but you can always manipulate her stats with differen gears

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(or just dont sync twice on bar 1)

lost juniper
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Isn't her sand setting like P!Bea's? Since I'm pretty sure if you go below half with Bea the sun gets replaced by hail afterwards

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If the sync crosses half I mean

sturdy steeple
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yeah syncing vs a half bar is fine

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the problem is entire bar changes

lost juniper
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Oh yeah that's a problem

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I dealt with Cynthia Grant by not buffing her crit so she could control better

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Probably will work even with 10/5 Cynthia