Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

[karmic willow]

that's my gripe on it too

like

you lose out on a nuke

B U T

tanky grimsley is funny

alright thehn

grimsley + arbok on azelf it is

it's legit funny how

he can go for Bounce Back

or indomitable

[river cliff]

I was thinking maybe you take them to Registeel and run mg2 on one of them, using iron tail to debuff defense

[karmic willow]

it's a bit gimmicky cuz

not guaranteed rate

boy oh boy

oh hey

lucy

what is she good for even this time

i mean i remember naomi doing lucy shauna

i hated that comp's damage range lmfao

maybe not so much this time around

but yeah, she kinda sucks everywhere else doesn't she

@hallow gull you will not convince me to do Clay + Shauna lmfao

[hallow gull]

Why ping me ?

[karmic willow]

you made that comp

XD

then again shauna is also good on steel

urgghhh

oh yeah i did shauna lucy AND lickitung

i hated the queue

gimme lucy ex

[hallow gull]

Oh, that why i cant remember anything

[karmic willow]

bru

[hallow gull]

I haven’t climbed seriously since LG12, you cant think that i’ll remember everything

[karmic willow]

welp

[karmic willow]

no worries

but

dang

am i going to run out of status conditions

i don't realistically see myself getting 270 at all

most clears here are duos

Dang

Ah, we'll get there when we get there i guess

think i'll do 261

weird

no agatha on coba

On paper i should have enough

something tells me that i'm gonna get gatekeep'd by cobalion

ah nvm

45 teams

i got enough status conditions for that

@sturdy steeple i don't think i saw any mallow teams on azelf. is janine bp still a good choice for duo on coba?

[sturdy steeple]

sure

[karmic willow]

Not as tough as I thought

Just skipperino

Eggmon had mg2 just to rub salt on the wound

I literally almost one tap bar 2

[dawn plume]

as am i assigning units i am realizing wow a lot of ice pairs are weak to steel

[karmic willow]

Yup

Irida even

But the best part is

She can do brycen and

Ignore all of it's shinnenigans

[dawn plume]

i think a lot of my ice units will go to azelf just for that

[dawn plume]

dang this works even w fire weakness?

[karmic willow]

Yes

You kill it before it kills you

With -6 sp.atk

[dawn plume]

oh lmao azelf -6 its own sp def

[karmic willow]

It's not that scary

[dawn plume]

yeah im prolly gonna run this

[karmic willow]

My eggmon did help a bit

And uh, he can solo but that's a nuts 10E clear

3mpr with propulsion and precise damage control

Meanwhile

Haha fairy zone go brrrrrr

The second option i see would be

[stuck mantle]

Gladion can solo azelf?

[karmic willow]

Eggmon

The body slam one. igglybuff

[karmic willow]

5/5 exr +10E

Sounds like a you clear

[stuck mantle]

I have him max for hse

[karmic willow]

You can do that

[stuck mantle]

But its sound not easy🤣

Preff use egg mon

[karmic willow]

I need more azelf teams anyways so

Keeping this one

Though i might change my mind with igglybuff lmfao

30% para is funny

Idk if he lives that

[stuck mantle]

Coba duo

But i think is better on azelf

For coba is alot options any way

[karmic willow]

Welp

Even with one stone edge đodge and one para early

With near perfect body slam rng

Doesn't work at all lmfao

Welp guess I got my answer to that question

Fighting Guard can help

[stuck mantle]

Special low not help vs him

Its why azlef more use

[karmic willow]

Yeah

Also

Wrong grid lol

I used the azelf grid so

Would probably not change too much

But i will note that clear for the future

[karmic willow]

This was the most shocking imo

[karmic willow]

If it was the right one

Could have skipped close combat (ouch)

[river cliff]

It wouldn't be that bad running something like this. 60% def drops with just a few mg2 procs needed on the side
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=0&v1=011300020800&s1=5&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=18046602&t1=44444&g1=AAECAwQFBwoSFRglKCstMDEyMzQ1&v2=003800040900&s2=5&l2=140&r2=5&p2=0&a2=18046402&t2=44444&g2=AAECAwQFBgkKDQ8fICEiLg

[tender horizon]

Ramos and N also good on regi

[dawn plume]

oh yeah im using lodge n on registeel

ramos uhh

idk

[heavy sinew]

Ramos for steel cause of def crush

[rocky oasis]

regi is just miserable to sleep chain

[river cliff]

Serena + fuecoco is pretty funny

[inner turret]

it's also pretty overkill lmao

[river cliff]

Is it? It felt pretty tight when I tried it last time we had regi

[inner turret]

Ah on regi

Why would you use serena on regi when cobalion is around

[river cliff]

I don't have anything better to do with Fuecoco (that I can think of) and Cobalion's easier to build around, plus my Serena isn't EXed

[inner turret]

serena doesnt need ex to duo if you give her crit

[river cliff]

I might end up doing that, it just depends on where my teambuilding ends up

[inner turret]

And if I can avoid sleepchaining I take it

[river cliff]

Ah but it's so satisfying

[inner turret]

you masochist lmao

[river cliff]

Just gotta get the rhythm

Except terrakion, that sucked

[rocky oasis]

is did serena + fuecoco vs terrakion

it sucked

[tender horizon]

Strike Fuecoco and Holiday Jasmine

[river cliff]

I like the support charizard clear a little better

[tender horizon]

Why is tht better tho

That makes Jasmine the striker right?

[river cliff]

Because there are way too many sp atk buffing eggmons and this is a great use for one

Nah support charizard has overheat

[tender horizon]

Thats better than strike char?

[river cliff]

You get higher bp and bulk + buff jasmine, but I haven't messed with it

[river cliff]

I actually found it a lot easier than registeel since you don't need to farm as many sync buffs and don't immediately lose if you miss the 50% crit on bar 3's sync

[rigid plover]

When is the LG coming out

[pearl beacon]

9th

[rigid plover]

Dang that's so far away :(

[pearl beacon]

And it will last 2 weeks, so ready to rush

[dawn plume]

i’m using the extra time to assign units to each stage

all 3 stages are pretty close in difficulty so i’m trying to keep the units per stage even

once i assign i’ll build teams

[chrome halo]

Raikou or even Entei would make this rotation a perfect one

[dawn plume]

i want raikou so bad

though it would be considerably easier than the other two

[gleaming cypress]

Setting up auto teams rn, any advice?

could probably do an extra round but eh

[worthy horizon]

sst red is pretty capable of auto soloing cobalion with unbending i just checked

could leave katherine on for extra safety but sycamore is just actively slowing you down

or put on a different attack debuffer or defense buffer

though i'm going off 3/5 exr

[heavy sinew]

Fr?

Damn

[worthy horizon]

yea

something like this

[gleaming cypress]

[heavy sinew]

huh good to know

[worthy horizon]

non-ex rachel, 1/5 dc marnie

[gleaming cypress]

cool

[worthy horizon]

ex cheren, 4* lodge cheren

e9 base cheren

lodge cheren could get away with eggmon potentially

[gleaming cypress]

+9E???

[worthy horizon]

enlightenment 9

[gleaming cypress]

oh

[worthy horizon]

lol

[gleaming cypress]

how necessary is the EX

[worthy horizon]

probably isn't

there's a lot of health left there

and you can always just flinch more

[bitter gate]

EX BP Rose + speed eggmon works against Registeel

you need a flinch into sync combo on bar 2 tho

[worthy horizon]

yeah i was wondering what you had for bp rose

what would the preferred lucky skills be

[bitter gate]

I was using egg scyther but there should be a cheaper option

I had CS2 on Rose, since he has vigilance and defense buffs already

if you really want to be extra safe, he can afford to run mind games

but I don't think it's super necessary/worth it just for Registeel

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=0&v1=026200086300&s1=5&l1=140&r1=6&p1=0&a1=13010602&t1=4444&g1=AAECAwQFBggLDQ4cHyAhIy4v&v2=0

my grid in question, running natural remedy just to be extra safe from stupid paralysis procs

[worthy horizon]

yea it's pretty important

[bitter gate]

I think BP Will should also work with a flincher

[gleaming cypress]

EX proven unnecessary thanks for the team

[modest oar]

Bore da pawb - I can see above some duos being looked into - is there a spreadsheet for these or is it still uncharted territory??

[worthy horizon]

teams repository in the pins has duos and trios but there's no teams for a bunch of the more recent stuff

since they've released after the last time we've seen the bosses in gauntlet

[modest oar]

Gotcha

[worthy horizon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKfQ2hDTW8

that b move damage

[bitter gate]

Is there a better way to do this

Lodge Iono + Lodge May

not as easy as it looks, mind you

but maybe I'm dumb, thus why I'm asking

Still works

And I'm quite sure it's the cheapest possible Clair duo

with EX it becomes way easier, this is just 5* Rachel

[chrome halo]

how many Rachel TM MPR needed

[bitter gate]

just one

lol

[chrome halo]

[bitter gate]

run stoic on Rachel

again if your Rachel is EXed it become easier because uhh

Cobalion just explodes

Clair does like 40% of Cob's health with DM lol

my Clair is EXed 150 tho

so just keep that in mind

[graceful folio]

[bitter gate]

also, jasmine + egg paralyzer works, but some precision is necessary

against cob

[gleaming cypress]

coba is unusually weak to para

only starts with lessen para 1 but has lessen burn 7

[karmic willow]

Huh?

[karmic willow]

What the hell is this

It looks crazy i might steal it if not for Rachel + Raihan on zelf

[karmic willow]

Pog

[karmic willow]

Did you try it out?

[bitter gate]

I already told you

I could do it lol

i did it in two LGs already

[karmic willow]

It's more of a reaction lol

Nice team

[karmic willow]

But i seriously am thinking of teams for zelf

Idk why but it scares me a bit

In terms of damage

[gleaming cypress]

he does hit very hard if you don't drop its attack

even my auto teams can have a hard time sometimes

when i was proving them earlier today

[karmic willow]

Yeah but

Not a lot of attack droppers over here

Or maybe I am using the wrong teams idk

I am waiting for

[gleaming cypress]

i want to use my max invest poppy effectively

[karmic willow]

Raihan's ex role specifically

[gleaming cypress]

her cobalion solo is easy enough

her registeel solo is doable ig but harder

[karmic willow]

I think he can get away with a lot of stuff

[gleaming cypress]

but im wondering if i should put her to duo on azelf

[karmic willow]

Depends

Are you scared of Azelf?

[gleaming cypress]

sorta

[karmic willow]

Because if you want to go as far as possible

Then dump most of your solos on it

[gleaming cypress]

but not as scared of terrak or bird

hm

[karmic willow]

I am also scared of azelf ngl

I got a lot of good teams for the other 2

[gleaming cypress]

i do agree that azelf will be my main bottleneck this time

[karmic willow]

Only azelf makes me think

[gleaming cypress]

because bug types are rare

and the damn gimmick

[karmic willow]

For me it's

Less about the gimmick

[gleaming cypress]

coba u para + use a semi-decent striker easy win

[karmic willow]

And more about it's damage

[gleaming cypress]

registeel is similar

[karmic willow]

Like i think he can punch through azelf no problem with speed buffs

With stoic 2 and stalwart natively he can take a punch

[inner turret]

One too many

[bitter gate]

@median swan do you approve or is there a cheaper way to do this

[median swan]

i have him with helena but this is pretty fun

[bitter gate]

Ehh, Helena can be used with something cheaper

and this one isn't even that RNG lol

[median swan]

i have kahili on sleep chain duty coz it's easy to do so with her lol

[bitter gate]

no pot MPR required though it helps

makes sense

People are probably sleep chaining registeel with her

What are you throwing base Wally with vs Azelf

[karmic willow]

I think

He is not doing that at all

Base wally + sc steven eats registeel apart

[bitter gate]

oh right, that duo

[karmic willow]

Also

Isn't base wally weak to psychic

I doubt he lives first sync without op support

[chrome halo]

Gallade is weak to Ghost

[karmic willow]

Ooof

[karmic willow]

Point still stands

He is REALLY squishy

So i would rather

On type and scripted

[karmic willow]

Still, this is something worth considerijg

Might do Helena + wally on this

Safer than the Jasmine duo I'll tell you that much

[karmic willow]

@bitter gate you got raihan?

[bitter gate]

2/5 uninvested

[karmic willow]

any plans to do it on azelf?

technically you can play with 30% flinch lol

now i keep wanting to find a partner for clair that isn't ss kris lol

[chrome halo]

I used him with Fall Caitlin a while back, but given Caitlin's exclusive skill being out she is better be with someone else

[karmic willow]

too expensive in my taste

but

hmmm

fall cait

fall cait + something on registeel

[bitter gate]

No idea, I don't plan that far lol

[karmic willow]

Lol

He is one of the first pairs i looked at

Such an azelf "counter"

Flinch

Decent self defense with stoic 2 and stalwart

Special physical split

[karmic willow]

Do Rachel trust

[shy sinew]

is there a way to search up sync pairs with the special physical split somewhere?

[chrome halo]

Can do this ig: #bot-zone message

But you need to filter by role at the end

[shy sinew]

oh sweet exactly the list I was looking for

[bitter gate]

I can just use the other one

Lel

[karmic willow]

Which one?

The coinflip one?

Mine is too strong for that so i am considering my options for it being a flincher

[karmic willow]

Grant and Cynthia

Certainly interesting

Easy azelf without L.S change

[tender horizon]

Tf

[bitter gate]

???

[karmic willow]

Hmmmm

Lodge May

Will consider

Also

Sc Emmet + flincher

Absolute cinema

He almost one shots azelf bar 1 wtf

Se up from tm is craaazy

If my gear buffed his attack a bit more

A full one shot

[shy sinew]

1/5 just needs a meat shield right?

[sour isle]

hrm. this'll be... at least 30 clears? ;D

i think i'll do 12 clears, reset, and do it again

[karmic willow]

Also he's super squishy lol

Getting the eggmon to tank is far better because sameish health wth

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/10901/58900?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=18040502&g=AAECAwQFDA0RFB4oKywtLi8

Grid here

Fast track 2 is to give consistent gauge + rising tide buffs maybe

[shy sinew]

dang yeah he does in fact do damage

only cooking 1/5 so I think he gets put with a double egg flincher for me

[timid lodge]

what happens when u reset the streak

[hallow gull]

You get back to streak 0 ofc

[timid lodge]

no i mean what about the rewards

[hallow gull]

That also means you can use again pairs that you use before

[hallow gull]

No, it doesn’t reset the rewards

[shy sinew]

or would pairing emmet with a sleeper be too overkill (this is also a reminder for me that we have a new egg sleeper now)

[inner turret]

SC Steven vs regi

[river cliff]

I will once I have more cookies so I can roll mg2 on Roark

[karmic willow]

Got hacked fr?

[river cliff]

I'm torn on whether to do Dana + egg Scyther again or to try to go cheaper since the EX makes that free

[heavy sinew]

I was thinking of that one

idk what I used last time azelf appeared but I think that's good

[bitter gate]

invested dana or

[river cliff]

Yeah mine's 3/5

Scyther needs those sp atk buffs

[dawn plume]

i think i will do that

[bitter gate]

yeah, my Dana is uninvested so can't do that

[lost juniper]

1/5 Dana can duo with Noland I think

[dawn plume]

she can

i did that one before

[worthy horizon]

the listed rewards won't be reset but you still have a chance of getting deluxe cookies and a much higher chance of getting 3* standard cookies

[lost juniper]

https://youtu.be/-vfJKqPZLno

Lowered MC & Raikou on Latios too

[dawn plume]

surprised tornadus was easier

well, guess i shouldn't be too surprised

[lost juniper]

Last one I can maybe lower is Raikou

But idk about my chances

[shy notch]

Raikou would be very hard to lower. MC’s healing is too limited

[karmic willow]

i honesltly think

you should ditch this clear

mainly because egg scyther is too good

with steven

[river cliff]

You assume that I have Steven

[karmic willow]

base steven

or

literally anything that requires speed

[river cliff]

I have more speed buffers than people who need speed

Base steven isn't exactly a pair I'd ever actively go for anyhow

[worthy horizon]

yeah no one would by this point

unless they're desperate for lodge units i guess

[karmic willow]

i see, then good

i don't have enough lol

XD

maybe i'm bad at optimizing

i'll wait a few more days before deciding on what i should do

[shy notch]

The monthly lodge banner is starting to look better with the addition of Lance and now Lear. I’m assuming Diantha will be next

[heavy sinew]

inb4 viola

[worthy horizon]

they've gone pretty heavily in on either new releases or base forms of new alts

idk if they're gonna just break that streak unless diantha is getting a new alt

[bitter gate]

lodge viola is gud, hue

[tender horizon]

Honestly his rock nuke is good, i think easier than Gordie to setup and SE up too

But u dont need that for anything

[heavy sinew]

Real

[quaint tartan]

I think they will still hold on to Diantha for rock hse putting her with support tyrantrum

[tender horizon]

Since when hv they paired hs with lodge releases

[quaint tartan]

Lance

[rocky oasis]

the ones still missing a role

im shocked steven doesnt have one

[tender horizon]

Thts cus his arc suit was paired to HS release and his lodge was paired to his arc suit release, we all know the causation

[quaint tartan]

I can still dream I bet my 2 cents on alder arc suit in November with his conkledurr in lodge

[tender horizon]

I wonder how theyll slip in a ss leaf ex role update

[quaint tartan]

What a wasted occasion to handle a free copy of og lance/cynthia/steven plus their ex role in this anniversary

[tender horizon]

Victor and Gloria will probably be paired for exr release with some galar event

Which is why i speculate Mustard and Urshifu next month to start

Actually

FIGHT AND STEEL HS

MUSTARDU AND PEONY

[rocky oasis]

the MFs seem to be doing better at least

the old anni units could use a support ex tho

[stuck mantle]

Ash will stay non ex forever

[shy notch]

Pretty much the only way Ash ever reruns and gets his EXR is to promote him coming back to the anime

Jessie and James appeared in pogo around the same time as in pmex and also haven’t been back in years

[kind imp]

#916852044692856834 message

Missing EXs and expansions, pre-datamine

[stuck mantle]

Would be good if ash back and get exr and jessie james ex and grids

But dena focus on other stuff now

Then this things

Raid boss co op soon🤣

[worthy horizon]

next month they'll have to give roles to more relevant stuff that i have bc they chose raihan and diantha and neither of them become much more useful

and ss n which i have only at 1/5

18 left

[stuck mantle]

Mina and gloria alt exr is ok rest are not the best choise

[quaint tartan]

November being eeevee month smells like adaman and irida rerun with exr

[stuck mantle]

Yeap whit exrs

[quaint tartan]

I’d add SSN too as best choice, rest is trash

[stuck mantle]

N would pref sup

For more bulk

[shy sinew]

I definitely don't mind strike on N, sprint is the only sensible role they could give Mina, support on glorialt would be fun

but also even though he's not new clavell's role is really good as well

[gleaming cypress]

ss kris got sprint so ss mina gets sprint too

[shy sinew]

well mina can't get field because that invalidates fairy kingdom on grid

[stuck mantle]

Sprint field is good for rally

[rocky oasis]

mina exr is great for someone who has her 1/5

like her zone keeps running out before her partner can actually use it

[feral plank]

Finally, this has been a nightmare, i got arc cynthia.

[stuck mantle]

How sprint help zone stay 1/5?

If zone for sync is in grid lol

[shy sinew]

the initial extended zone runs out before second sync

[rocky oasis]

sprint lets you get a sync in w/ the partner bc shes already hogging the first one

[feral plank]

wouldn't it still run out?

[stuck mantle]

Hmm not sure if for 2 sync even sprint zone will stay?

[shy sinew]

it's extension 5 so I don't think so

[feral plank]

i just don't remember 1/5 ss mina, mine has been 3/5 since first day, got a pity

[shy sinew]

extension 5 zone should fit 15 turns of actions in it

[feral plank]

lemme check with someone else as sprint exr

[rocky oasis]

you can get a sync from the partner in

[stuck mantle]

Depend on stage

Vs entei not realy you can keep it

[rocky oasis]

Im talkign about outside of LG

where the sprint helps a lot

[stuck mantle]

Outside off lg maybe it work better

[shy sinew]

for LG only the only role that works for Mina is tech

so yeah sprint was the only good outcome

[feral plank]

but ig if you are using mina outside of lg you should have her 3/5 no?

[rocky oasis]

im being realistic

I dont have that much candy to spare

gonna be trying to make her work in BR when i get a sprint cake

[feral plank]

neither do i , i have my chase 1/5 still and its going to stay like that for a while, it still helps in dc though

[karmic willow]

anyone got new stuff cooked out?

[shy sinew]

to anyone who's done volkner + supp marowak on cobalion, is that clear particularly reset intensive? I'm looking at it and debating if I should budget an extra tank eggmon to help my sanity

my volkner is not ex in case that matters

[heavy sinew]

It's not that bad, IDR if you tank with volk or the egg

It's just flinch heavy

And MPRs

[shy sinew]

naomi tanked with volkner back in lg13

[heavy sinew]

Ok then ya not too bad, just hope you get good finches or dodges

And terrains

that's the main focus

[shy sinew]

yeah I'll keep a note on it to maybe look into adding a tank/flinching eggmon to preserve my own sanity

[heavy sinew]

Yup

[quaint tartan]

And optimize time since we have a week less

[wise raven]

For gauntlet is it better to double candy 1/5 Rika or split it like bringing Iono to 3/5 and Pal Victor to 2/5?

[thick topaz]

Any tips on how to allocate pairs that can solo all 3 upcoming LAs?

Eg: C Bianca, AS Steven, SST

[chrome halo]

I tend to save stronger solo capable pairs for hardest arena

[thick topaz]

Is there a definitive answer or should I just save them for whoever ends up being the bottleneck?

[rocky oasis]

save them till near the end?

[sturdy steeple]

its always going to be an "it depends"

especially for this LG, where all stages have like a closer difficulty level than some other LGs

[thick topaz]

Alright, gonna save easy solos for when I start to struggle

Thanks everyone!

[karmic willow]

It is not that bad. You got flinch and dodge hax your side

[sturdy steeple]

Yeah maro makes volkner easily clean coba, its a very safe solo

Also solo doc updated, c Marnie got 11 solos

[karmic willow]

Yea

I saw someone got terrak on twitter

[stuck mantle]

Marnie best gurl:)

His luck was crazy good:) and b move just befor sync😁💦💦💦

[timid lodge]

no

[bitter gate]

@sturdy steeple rip you

Now we have more of them

[true tartan]

5/10

[bitter gate]

@true tartan yeah, I think you have it worse

you have to reorganize the grids or something, lol

but it doesn't specify if it's a grid expansion or an innate buff

[stuck mantle]

This will be now 1/10?

[true tartan]

I better just stop updating pomatools...

[bitter gate]

[stuck mantle]

So now all new sync pair will be 10/10🫢

[true tartan]

is "not bad", but too much work haha....

[stuck mantle]

So giacomo and clavel not have it?

Only iono and shauntal?

[vital ibex]

None of them have it

Late october pretty much means start of november

So nov datamine, dec datamine, and jan datamine

[stuck mantle]

So next update 10/10🤣

[bitter gate]

and then they'll give them in 3 batches for all PFs

[true tartan]

dunno if "fair" include Master/Arc ones

we'll see I suppose

[stuck mantle]

Big jump from 5/5 now 10/10😂

[bitter gate]

is reddit raging over this change I wonder

[stuck mantle]

So now need get 10 copys haha🤣💳💳💳💳💰💰💰💰💰

[chrome halo]

from the wording, it seems the upgrades are not move level uncap, it's just a feature that gets unlocked after 5/5

(i'm definitely coping)

[true tartan]

we'll see

the problem is them not explaining the thing with more detail

[chrome halo]

classic DeNA

[true tartan]

that may end up making people just make incorrect takes

[bitter gate]

Yeah

[stuck mantle]

For me they say about 5 move lv ups

[chrome halo]

correct

[bitter gate]

It might just be an unlockable thing

they don't say it scales with dupes

just that 5/5 is the prerequisite, and the "five more stages" of upgrades

[chrome halo]

Rion does the JPN letter say the same as the ENG one?

[bitter gate]

they don't even specify if it's a grid addition, which idt it will be

[chrome halo]

exactly my point

[bitter gate]

It's the same, yes

[chrome halo]

i'm curious that if other languages may reveal something

oh oops

[stuck mantle]

If they add 500 scout points

Why not make pokefair 10/10 now

[bitter gate]

My guess it's going to be alternate resource

but yeah, too many unknowns

but their wording would also specify additions to dupes/grids like the last time

so it's probably just

alternate resource

that we need to grind from scratch

[chrome halo]

hopefully that will be the thing

not the shitty 10/10 move levels

[stuck mantle]

I don’t belive its for free

Would be too good too be true

[bitter gate]

It's not for free, obviously

[stuck mantle]

If they raise scout points give for free?

[bitter gate]

just that I personally doubt it's actually "pull this limited unit five more times"

[stuck mantle]

Why not lol?

[bitter gate]

it's probably going to be something harder than orb expansions

because the JP at least is decent enough to isolate the wording

[twin aurora]

10/10 SS-Cyrus for me pls

[bitter gate]

like sure, if it happens then w/e

[stuck mantle]

If now all scout arc 500 scout points

So scout 10/10 pokefairs?

Look similar

[chrome halo]

[stuck mantle]

Get arc 5/5 its similar too pokefairs 10/10

Gems amount

Since chance get arc is way less then fairs

[true tartan]

better just don't assume anything for the time being

we'll see in late october

[stuck mantle]

Yeap

But they say old get this too? Correct?

[true tartan]

they are too vague to even try to guess stuff, we just know you need 5/5 to "unlock" the extra 5 levels, and that 10 is going to be a skill

yeah, but only Fair units, no idea if it includes Poké, Master and Arc

or just Poké

[bitter gate]

Also they would've specified we get up to +80 grid if it were move levels

[bitter gate]

just Poke

the overhaul confirms all PFs get it only

[stuck mantle]

Yeap look like fairs

[true tartan]

then why don't say Poké Fair...

[bitter gate]

Didn't they?

[stuck mantle]

Can be extra orbs all this look hell expensive

Orbs move lv 🫢

[true tartan]

they just said "Fair"

[stuck mantle]

Yeap only fair

But this 5 extra in grid can be like arc for free

Depend on move lv

[bitter gate]

we'll just wait and see

[stuck mantle]

Since if we need orbs this would cost way way too mutch

[bitter gate]

we can wait till the 29th, hue

one month

[stuck mantle]

😭

[vital ibex]

they often refer to pokefairs as "fair exclusive sync pairs"

never master or arc fairs (to my knowledge)

[frosty mason]

Have fun saying the minimum investment for a unit is 9/5 EXR +10

[true tartan]

I'm just saying, the best way is just to wait :T

[vital ibex]

true

[frosty mason]

It’s weird wording but it should be just pokefairs

[median swan]

10/5 EX-R +10E + PLS + L + ratio

[stuck mantle]

Haha skipp all rivals 10/5 exr😘

[karmic willow]

Imagine

But damn

No Rosa pokefair yet

How am I supposed to

This update doesn't change a lot to me

Why not

10/10 for spotlights first

Like i would seriously appreciate that

I have a ridiculous amount of tickets ready to unload

[worthy horizon]

exactly, they'd be giving it away for free

why would they bother with something they don't gain from

[karmic willow]

mannnnn

still

10/10

imagine if new solos are born from this

and DC

and so, so much more

[worthy horizon]

from the sounds of it i don't think it'll enable much actually

[karmic willow]

idk

but it would make some clears LESS painful

aka the moltres solos

lysandre

[worthy horizon]

yeah existing ones will be way better

[karmic willow]

elaine

just lacking a bit more stats

[bitter gate]

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Twitter · Sep 29, 2024, 6:49 AM

he does it again

[karmic willow]

i wonder

what's the new passives gonna be like

[karmic willow]

still, I can't wait to see

how the new "passive" would affect

like if it's just

cs2

nah, screw that

if it's something like staggering 2 like mayziken's 5/5 though

holy hell

[worthy horizon]

yea they'd have to put a lot of thought and care into it

if they get lazy it'll likely be worthless

[karmic willow]

i will be

saving 10/10 for my ultra favorites like

SS Hilda

even then that'd take, idk, months

if they gave her something really stupid

like physical / special up next 1 after every hit

insane dps

[lost juniper]

I hope SS Hilda's passive will be good

[karmic willow]

she is genuinely one of my favorite units

[lost juniper]

I have all the Unova trio maxed

[karmic willow]

design, gameplay and character wise

next up is SS N

[lost juniper]

Same to mine

[karmic willow]

i hate the guy, but i can't disagree that

he always someone who's just "i lack stats to solo"

now if they gave him something like

sync regen

or literally anything heal-related

that's another huge W

[lost juniper]

Sync regen will make him so OP

[karmic willow]

it really has to be

[lost juniper]

He's gonna do 13/14 so easily with regen

[karmic willow]

unit-defying

just fix one core problem

[lost juniper]

Like really he's only stopped by lack of healing

[bitter gate]

I don't even know what I want buffed and how at this point

Give Lysandre Catalytic Cure 9, idk

[lost juniper]

I hope we get 5/5 MF passives too so I have a reason to make Anni N 5/5

[bitter gate]

[karmic willow]

more healing??

eh

idk

i would probably give him something like

condition immunity

or something

no flinch/ burn allowed

or confuse

he'd seriously eat moltress alive for free

for alt elio though

maybe crit buffs

[lost juniper]

Condition Nullification then

[karmic willow]

he's seriously only lacking that

[karmic willow]

yeah that one

i swear if it's just something boring like

"REBUFF"

[bitter gate]

or just some debuffs or something

idk

[karmic willow]

then nah, screw that

[bitter gate]

we also have no idea what the heck they'd give anyway, they'll russian roulette it

[karmic willow]

S-Move: Physical Boost ↑2 & Special Boost ↑2 9

like imagine if SS Hilda got this

hoooooboyyyy

or on hit

like NC CHeren's passive

ss diantha probably needs something protection related

ss red is unsalvagable

imagine him getting recoil removal

i'd like to see him debuffing stuff

or just

brainpower

but yeah

I do hope that the new passive would

not conflict with existing nodes

but wait

what is in the datamine?

wouldn't we have found out about it?

[worthy horizon]

nothing about this yet

[karmic willow]

like

is it gonna be a SECOND Update?

huh

i feel like it's gonna be an end-of-month update

aka

no big change this gauntlet

[worthy horizon]

though i actually think the wording is enough to assume not just a straight move level upgrade since they say it's a "new strengthening method"

[worthy horizon]

yea

[karmic willow]

welp

we are... gonna have to wait

[rotund rain]

They also mentioned this last month (specifically the last sentence)

[karmic willow]

then

i sincerely hope

it's something NOT candy-related

and maybe like

something farmable

[lost juniper]

I don't think it's move level upgrade since they'd have said it outright

[karmic willow]

we will

just have to wait and see

@hallow gull give them a ton of feedback on this

[hallow gull]

[karmic willow]

@sturdy steeple real talk

egg scyther speed

or strike on dana?

having ex does open that posibility

Oh right

Bqck to the SS N buffs

Sync regen might not be so good because of how he works

He gets it once every 2 cycles

Maybe catalytic

Or "heal on block"o

Or Ryuki's heal

Straight up double hp

[lost juniper]

This is probably best. Like healing 1/8 if taking damaged in a ready to attack position

[tender horizon]

Ofc strike

[worthy horizon]

yeah i've been leaning toward strike there

[blissful rose]

Not doing Dana/Lodge Calem? 👀

[river cliff]

EX on Dana isn't really needed for strike

[worthy horizon]

also for lysandre his passive would need to be unfortuitous or sterner stuff or brain brawn or something that could help him tank hits really

even vigilance could be good enough maybe

or speed buffs

[blissful rose]

So, how many of your PF units are eligible for this upgrade? I have only have 2 of them at 5/5.
Another feature that 90% of the player base wouldn't be able to utilize.

[chrome halo]

we know nothing about who will get the upgrades first

[bitter gate]

Just that we'll get them all in 3 months

But I have 12

SS Red, Classic Red, both fair Cynthia's, Steven, Lance, Anni Skyla, SS Brendan, SS Wally, Anabel, Lysandre and Rose

[rocky oasis]

I have cynthia at 5/5

thats it

[bitter gate]

The last 5 took me 4 candies to max each

[river cliff]

I hope anni Raihan gets soothing sand or something

[inner turret]

My 5/5 cynthia looking even more interesting

[blissful rose]

Mine's SS Leaf and Emma.

[bitter gate]

How many do the rest of you have

[inner turret]

1

But if it's really interesting I'll consider candying Larry and Palmer

10/5 Palmer gets P-Move: No Power Reduction and I explode

[bitter gate]

Oh yeah my renegade Cynthia is also 5/5 if she somehow gets one too

[chrome halo]

i have SS Leaf, Victor, Penny and Redlax at 5/5

[river cliff]

Pretty sure it's just cynthia for me

[chrome halo]

[inner turret]

Oh yeah Red is a fair too

[worthy horizon]

there aren't other hints beyond knowing that they're upgrading poke fairs but it could just be all of these

[inner turret]

And Anabel

[river cliff]

If the upgrades are good enough I'd consider raising Paulo and N to 5/5

I'm working on getting Lear there as well

[worthy horizon]

ss wally/morty upgrades could be huge and make them even more versatile but the rest can't be upgraded to wally/morty's base level with a single existing passive i think

[bitter gate]

It depends

Youd be surprised on what they could give

[blissful rose]

Fixed passive skill is the wording they used which could mean anything to me.

[tender horizon]

Its alrdy working, this passive buff is making yall wanna spend your resoirces

Dena:

[blissful rose]

Slaps them all with Piercing Blows at 10/5.

[inner turret]

A single signature passive

it combines 4 passives at once

[bitter gate]

essentially lucky cookie

[inner turret]

without taking the cookie slot

which is good

[tender horizon]

Nothing is good if you cant use it

[gleaming cypress]

#salt-channel will be flooded with Marnie pulls when this releases

hopefully that doesn’t end up being me

[tender horizon]

Kommo o is worse at base

[gleaming cypress]

eh

the disparity in power level of the units that scout gives is huge

ss Morty on one end Marnie on the other

[inner turret]

at least marnie and cynthia have utility

meanwhile red

[blissful rose]

At least none of these are maxed out for me, so I can't really complain whoever I get but would be salty af for those who got a PU.

[gleaming cypress]

[quaint tartan]

I have a bunch of them fully invested but im not willing to get more copies to 10/5, hope they are thinking to other ways of move level increase 😅

[tender horizon]

10/5 is a joke

Theyre really capitalising on the JP whales

[lost juniper]

I doubt it'll be 10/5. It's probably gonna be a new method of upgrades

Cause they'd specify move levels if they meant it

[blissful rose]

Probably an upgrade that unlocks for a unit once they reached 5/5.
New items to grind/pay for to upgrade them I guess.

[chrome halo]

this backs the theory up: #916852389347196958 message

[lost juniper]

Thought so

Expecting 10/5 to scout is absurd after the backlash they got for anni

[shy sinew]

wdym it’s a great way to eos the game /hj

[tender horizon]

Game will EoS when Clay can solo Cresselia

Before that no one is going anywhere!

[dawn plume]

so its not 10/5 or lvl 155

but a secret third thing?

[heavy sinew]

eos

[chrome halo]

Correct to both of you

It seems to be accessible when pokefair units are 5/5

[dawn plume]

LOL did yall see that daily scout simulator

gotta be the most depressing thing i've ever seen

[heavy sinew]

2054 to get rika

I only keep getting 3 stars

I might lose my chance to get Steven

damn you SS lear

[stuck mantle]

2024 10 month i get nc calem😏

In 2 days🫢

From simulator

Hope its true😁

[dawn plume]

in 2052 i will get petrel

big if true

[stuck mantle]

Lol i can tell you one thing

In 2052 this game will not exist

[heavy sinew]

2999 before eos I will get the elusive Anni Steven

[stuck mantle]

So no need worry about it😂

[dawn plume]

what happens first

i pull limited unit from daily scout
eos
the fall of modern civilization

nc serena in 2061! wow!

[tender horizon]

Wheres this daily simulator

sHOW MEE

[dawn plume]

https://pkms.versus.jp/bsearch/index.html

[stuck mantle]

Never believe this stuff. Its not correct.

[chrome halo]

Literally how do you think it's incorrect

[stuck mantle]

Since i have friend:) who use this

And have pull 2 day in row 5 star

And he should pull in 2300😏

So where is correct?

[chrome halo]

[stuck mantle]

Its just fun app

[chrome halo]

🚶‍♂️

[stuck mantle]

Not realy stuff

I pull 3 silver in row

So wat this mean? Nothing

Luck is luck app is app game is game . All work diffrent

[chrome halo]

You already said that it was a fun app, doesn't mean it is incorrect

[stuck mantle]

Is incorrect

You now why?

Game will never run in this years

Like 2300?

Even 2052 look not real

[river cliff]

Lol that's not how probability works

[stuck mantle]

This should count 2024-2025

[chrome halo]

Bro takes the simulator seriously and it doesn't even make sense

[karmic willow]

April 2027

Meanwhile

Someone got 3 of them already

@hallow gull

[hallow gull]

Tf

SC Emmet is mix

I got 2 so far

[karmic willow]

2

Even that is too much

[hallow gull]

Yeah i know

[karmic willow]

Wow december 2037

[hallow gull]

Still prefer Arc Lance tho

[karmic willow]

[karmic willow]

Never

Then you daily him last day

[chrome halo]

[karmic willow]

Oh hey fastes record october 2025

@chrome halo join my anti group

[hallow gull]

Better than me smh, the simulator say that i’ll get first limited at 2054

[karmic willow]

It is funny

[karmic willow]

Simulator is nothing to real life

[hallow gull]

[karmic willow]

You got 2 already

[karmic willow]

If only this was true

[chrome halo]

I can be on both sides

[karmic willow]

Wow

[hallow gull]

How lucky

[dawn plume]

back to back days 😳 2037 boutta go crazy

[karmic willow]

It only simulator unlike someone with two in one month

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1253777497107992586.gif?size=160&name=booger

[shy sinew]

yeah if you press the simulator button enough times eventuall something good will happen

[karmic willow]

So true

[shy notch]

Thanks daily simulator for the spring Burgh in 2034

[wide citrus]

link?

also

dealing with RNG in gauntlet is a nightmare

[heavy sinew]

5/5 leaf in 2054

[shy notch]

Got NC Blue in 2053

[wide citrus]

i did a duo of SS Steven and SS Brendan on Cobalion and i went like 10 dragon breaths before paralysing on ofne of them

30% my ass

[heavy sinew]

NVM we are back for terrakion

[lost juniper]

Where you find the simulator?

[shy sinew]

glad it's a simulation lol

[shy sinew]

absol tweeted it but https://pkms.versus.jp/bsearch/

copy link address on twitter doesn't copy the link you right clicked on, but a link to the twitter message

[lost juniper]

I don't have her yet yay

[wide citrus]

yoooo Geta in 2041

[tender horizon]

LMAO i got one holiday rosa in 2038

[wide citrus]

NOOO not her

[shy notch]

They need to buff the daily scout rates. Most people won’t get a single limited unit before eos 💀

[tender horizon]

AND MARNIE IN 2073 IM DYING

[tender horizon]

Just make it a daily multi

I still have to wait 1 year just to get a limited

So whts the harm

[heavy sinew]

Daily 10 pull goes hard

Feedback time

[stuck mantle]

2 try not bad🤩

Sad part 3 off them dont need😞

[blissful rose]

I technically got a limited unit from daily scout within the last 30 days. 4* Sawyer.

[lost juniper]

Same for me but it was Tina instead

[dawn plume]

daily scout would actually be reasonable if it was 10 pull yeah

[inner turret]

I think they don't want you to get 10 PU every day

which is extremely fair lol

[dawn plume]

the more i look at lodge lear's kit the more impressed i am lol i think this is the best lodge tech since serena

i've wanted lodge lear and krookodile since lodge was introduced finally feeling vindicated getting 1/5 lear off a select 2 years ago

[wide citrus]

Wait

Wait

Iono got 14 solos?????

[dawn plume]

yea lol

14 is also the number of potions she needed to beat moltres

[wide citrus]

Lmao

[heavy sinew]

Poetic

[wide citrus]

a solo is a solo tho

congrats to her

[quaint tartan]

I get Variety Kris in June 2028

[wide citrus]

New member of club 14

i know i'm 3 days late

[lost juniper]

It was a matter of time before Iono would've gotten it

[karmic willow]

Someone Unpin STKD's old one

and add that new image

[stuck mantle]

So wat all think about giacomo. ? Wat solo he can do?

Stdk not update up so i not now his grid wat can be picked up😒.

Saw recover hp its most interesting thing plus drop def

[lost juniper]

He probably could get the easy ones I guess

Latios at least. Maybe Bulu and Raikou

[shy sinew]

yeah gauge looks like a real nightmare for much more

sure he has mgr9 + mgr3 on kowtow cleave or mgr3 on a 60% flinch iron head but having gauge and utility at the same time looks problematic

[quaint tartan]

At least he has recup2

[karmic willow]

you know

if i'm paying 2k for a new unit

malva is worth considering

she does have that funny solo on coba

[shy sinew]

2k how?

[raven crane]

The General Select, probably.

Which, doesn't seem she's even on.

[shy sinew]

oh? her banner ends before that one starts so she should be there

[dawn plume]

they typically dont put new units on selects that quickly after their banner ends

even spotlights

thats like 2 days after?

[shy sinew]

ah they just tuck her in the gen pool then but not the select?

[dawn plume]

yeah thats how its been before

[raven crane]

Yerp.

Took Sonia a few months to get in before.

(I know there are other examples but that one I remember vividly.)

[tender horizon]

Yalls

Clavell with Haste = infinite b move?

[dawn plume]

no

[tender horizon]

[dawn plume]

its the same stat spent effect as jacq

cant be ignored w passives

[tender horizon]

Ohok

[quaint tartan]

Paldea is the whale region, not only you spend gems bc there’s no free paldean unit…you even SPEND stat boost

[scenic bolt]

rally nemona does the am i a joke to you thing

[dawn plume]

rally?

[chrome halo]

Lycanroc

That's the only free Paldea for ya

[shy sinew]

who do I bug about adding clears into the repo? I have some from lg 14/15/16 that I haven't submitted, and now that I'm checking over the repo I'm realizing some of my weird investment clears may be useful

oh wait someone linked my personal repo in the todo of the main repo

[chrome halo]

you can bug me or Lydian

i don't have much time to add clears into the repo lately

[shy sinew]

no worries, I still need to put lg15 and 16 on the sheet you all have from me but I haven't copied over that data yet

I'll do that some time this week though

[chrome halo]

no rush

[shy sinew]

yeah 15 and 16 don't share any bosses with this rotation, it's more so I want to get it done before I have three lgs in the backlog

[heavy sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-gif-21831957

[chrome halo]

oh god

put that away from me