Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

[true tartan]

all using all they offer, without disrupting each other haha

[mint osprey]

Don't worry. AS SST Red will replace everything later on anyway

[true tartan]

I wish he doesn't get an AS lol

that or develop it in a way is actually interesting

[tender crater]

Weak pairs like Alder and Diantha should get it

[true tartan]

not just getting it just because

[tender crater]

And not already broken ones

[worthy horizon]

def

[true tartan]

for me, is just about how they develop it haha

as storywise

[mint osprey]

Red not getting the latest new shit would be sacriliege. He has it all

[true tartan]

he doesn't have SC nor Seasonal

[mint osprey]

SS? Check
Gmax? Check
NC? Check
Buddy move? Check
Rebuff? Check

[true tartan]

out of there, is just odd to put game mechanic with appearances lol

is there any need for "number 1"?

units cover different things

[bitter gate]

why else are people asking it all too often, lol

[mint osprey]

I suppose we will just wait until next month and see who is getting a "You need to improve" chapter

[true tartan]

dunno, I haven't seen anyone asking it

but that is because I am only here or in research haha

[bitter gate]

and then you get someone mad regardless of who you say it is lol

[mint osprey]

I guess there's some players who are still copium on their best "investments"

[true tartan]

lol, there is no clear answer

[worthy horizon]

inherent issue to tier lists i feel like

[true tartan]

at the end, the hardest stuff to clear can't be done by 1

[mint osprey]

Like, some always diss me for saying H Erika is useful, but she's okay for that one parameter in CSMM

[true tartan]

thinking on who number 1 all fall to what you consider for that

[mint osprey]

1/5 for TM MPR is good too

[river cliff]

No, but base Lear is sure going to rack up quite a few

[true tartan]

and is such a subjective thing that is only answer would be attainable by asking "what do you value for be a n1"

once you have the parameters, you can somewhat say what it fits the most for that

[bitter gate]

Yeah, it's a listing thing, but even folks who aren't interested in listing also often can only pick one arc fair

[true tartan]

so it is bound to change from one to another

[bitter gate]

and what to know who between them is the best

[true tartan]

like, having Steven is great

but... if you have NC Blue

[worthy horizon]

steven is clearly going to do the most things but i have concerns over having things that are too overpowered

[true tartan]

you gain more by having 2 very big defensive units?

[worthy horizon]

so i'm hesitant to even just level to 140

[true tartan]

or you prefer to have a bit of variety with another damage dealer

on that aspect, Cynthia would be better

[bitter gate]

Considering the significant ease and less investment required steven > Blue seems to be a mushrooming sentiment

fwiw

[true tartan]

considering that people are more likely to have him at 3/5 lol

of course, if someone has to pick either on a current banner, the answer is simple

the "problem" is that it is easier to upgrade blue more than steven

at least, for the other harder content

[mint osprey]

Having a good tank is never a bad idea

[true tartan]

yep

[mint osprey]

Like, support has a longer lasting shelf life than dps

Remember when SS Red was the strongest damage dealer? Now he's not worth the slot

[river cliff]

Utility in general has a long shelf life

[bitter gate]

four years ago

[bitter gate]

Unless you're Ingo

[river cliff]

The more things a pair can do the longer it'll take them to get powercrept

Well, he does like 3 things lol

[bitter gate]

he fell off the hardest as far as support kings are concerned haha

[mint osprey]

When AS SS Red happened, SS Red would be six feet under, even 5/5

[true tartan]

many damagers that are more self reliant already are better haha..

[bitter gate]

well that's also a content difference

[river cliff]

Ss Blue isn't doing too hot either, Leaf is the only one that really has much going for her nowadays

[bitter gate]

I think SS Lysandre is the biggest example where if you're outside of LG, you love him

if you're in LG, he's kinda meh

[true tartan]

haven't used anyone of them in a long time

[bitter gate]

because demands are different

[bitter gate]

even then mix Red is just

pure upgrade so

[true tartan]

funnily enough, I have used more SS Red because of my 3ple zard team

[bitter gate]

like, what year 1 unit has even aged that well enough

[true tartan]

depends on what you look for

[river cliff]

General pool pairs with expansions

[true tartan]

looks at SS Elesa MPR resetting for DC

[bitter gate]

If you look at it by year I'd say Caitlin

[mint osprey]

Anabel in UB : How cute

[bitter gate]

since she was already doing fat healing Catalytic cure things since the old days

[bitter gate]

anabel is the inverse problem, right

[true tartan]

Kris is also fun

[worthy horizon]

i feel like ss blue would have aged the best but i'm sure there's plenty of debatable stuff

[bitter gate]

well, she's not that bad in LG either, just not a solo machine

but she is very tailor made for UB stuff

[true tartan]

like, one of the best upgrades lol

[bitter gate]

SS Blue is a 2020 unit

as far as 2019 goes its probably cait

[mint osprey]

He can still tank, but clearly nowadays even tanks are getting better

[bitter gate]

or lance, idk

[mint osprey]

Triage 9 gets tossed around like nothing

[bitter gate]

I'd say Leaf and Clemont aged well?

[mint osprey]

OG Clemont got saved by his PB

[true tartan]

more tha aging well, dude never aged haha

[worthy horizon]

oh it's hard to tell what's year 1, idr dates that well and he came shorty after misty grid which was the only reference i had

[river cliff]

Not sure when he released but Silver has aged really well

[mint osprey]

He doesn't need it, but it sure makes him much more consistent

OG Silver post-PB is legit good

[worthy horizon]

clemont would have been better/best i would agree

[mint osprey]

Without it, he's undercooked

That Solar Flare 9 allows him to actually hit hard

[river cliff]

If only he had sun extension

[mint osprey]

Of course, we didn't even get to use him perfectly back in year 1 since we were all stuck with 1/5 0/20

DeNA : "How dare these players grind for 5/5 20/20! Don't give them that!"

[river cliff]

Karen has also aged pretty well

[mint osprey]

Then there's OG Ethan

Does SS Ethan even become good post-cake?

[true tartan]

he is... unique for now I suppose lol

[mint osprey]

I suppose he's not hog-tied to Anni Skyla at the very least since he can provide his own field. That's about it

[river cliff]

His self buffing is really odd

[worthy horizon]

i wanted ss ethan on release and failed to pull but i get the sense that he wouldn't be very relevant pretty shortly after release anyway

[shy sinew]

oh Cynthia? when I want to just trap and don’t care for accuracy debuffs I just want more damage

I also have 70 energy so it’s hard to find things I want with the extra energy sometimes

[tender horizon]

U fell asleep

[main ruin]

I got burnt by Heat Wave

[inner turret]

Definitely 14/14

Probably not in 1 day tho

[bitter gate]

Lance only wants to check Moltres

Everything else is day 1-able easily

He just needs to get FT

It's also doable at only 3/5 I think

[inner turret]

All you need is the flinch tile lol

[bitter gate]

And very good rolls

It's a shame he doesn't have impervious

[mighty marsh]

Nah latios should be negative
https://youtu.be/gNw9Gz39QZc?feature=shared

[tender horizon]

Oh lol

[tender horizon]

Omg

[warped axle]

Oh I see the lvl 1 clear already made it here

https://x.com/eeveemath/status/1829567686516601177?s=46&t=atVAYqDkWrJ7NrQJvAVIVg here’s the tweet about it if anyone wants to RT the run

[rotund rain]

why is there no Clown Latios emoji

[vale garden]

I just watched a level 1 Steven Solo Latios

I knew latios is the clown but
I really feel bad for him now

[rocky seal]

I'm looking at the Pokemon Masters EX subreddit and I'm like

"Did a LEVEL ONE Arc Steven seriously solo Latios???"

Aaaaaaaaand there's a video proving it

slow clap

[mighty marsh]

Latios is truly the clown of pokemon masters ex

I was first thinking it should be MOVE LEVEL 1

But then I saw the pic and physically gasped

[main ruin]

But NC Blue can't do this right

[mighty marsh]

No lol

Blue needs atleast 3/5 R for all legendary arenas

[main ruin]

Ah it's 4/5 Aggravation spam

[mighty marsh]

Steven makes quick work of all of them with 1/5 ex

He needs the cake on like 3

[tender crater]

First, Stevens aggravation is 3/5

But he solos latios at 1/5 lv 1

[mighty marsh]

Second he doesn't even need it

[main ruin]

How

[mighty marsh]

There's the vid

[mighty marsh]

@main ruin

[lost juniper]

He literally never dies

[sturdy steeple]

This is funny and all but it not minimum investment

[mighty marsh]

Ik but its very funny

[main ruin]

Skill gear should be considered cheating

[mighty marsh]

Why

[main ruin]

Non reproducable

Now sure for fun yes absolutely, but

[sturdy steeple]

Skill gear with good stats is not hard to get

[mighty marsh]

Yep

[shy sinew]

ok so just 2/5d my morgan and thought to look at her kit, they really cooked with this one

[mighty marsh]

I'll make her 5//

I love Morgan I've waited for this day for 3 years

[inner turret]

0/20

[shy sinew]

ah I see one of us has touched our maybun since selecting it

[mighty marsh]

I have maybun I don't use her

I pulled her on her initial release

[inner turret]

i just got a 2nd strike candy

[shy sinew]

mm I'm holding onto 2 and since I'm not a dedicated normalmaxer she won't get either!

[inner turret]

good decision

[shy sinew]

I have 2 each of strike, support, and field and of those I really only know where the field ones are going
support could either get spring burgh to 2/5 and another, or arven to 3/5

[main ruin]

Hippity hoppity Tapu Bulu's life is now my property

[gleaming cypress]

5/5 +10E?

looks like a very tight solo

[shy sinew]

it's already been done at 3/5 20/20

so this is lowering that to 0/20

[gleaming cypress]

shes that capable?

huh

[inner turret]

+6 evasion

[main ruin]

Isn't Rabbit May the worst unit in the game almost

[inner turret]

And Potion, though MPR are a myth

[inner turret]

Far from it, she's not great at all but at least she can do something

[shy sinew]

if you count eggmons, she's actually pretty decent

[main ruin]

I want to see someone try to use Holiday Siebold or Rosa to clear content

[gleaming cypress]

next y'all are gonna be telling me that NY lance can solo latios

[inner turret]

Even without counting eggmons, there are many worse pairs than her lol

[inner turret]

Well

[shy sinew]

Siebold has soloed Latios

[gleaming cypress]

damn

tbh very few of us around today have 2019 winter units do we

[shy sinew]

I'll probably get them next holiday selects just because I think I'm out of holiday pairs to get

[main ruin]

Does that speak to how shit my favourite Pokemon is

(both playable and boss)

[gleaming cypress]

latios will have his redemption arc in evelyn UB

projected to be one of the hardest on record

[warped axle]

we'll have 2 Fall pairs, 2 holiday pairs, 2 NY pairs and 2 palentines pairs before next year's Seasonal Selects

[rocky oasis]

i mean ss bren is perfectly usable

[main ruin]

Lmao

[gleaming cypress]

im not too in on the speculation tho

he has fluid fort

[shy sinew]

Latios does have 103 more solos than any other LA tbf

[warped axle]

plus you might just get siebold/rosanta from the new Daily Scout anyway

[main ruin]

Quit w

[shy sinew]

oh yeah that's true (well the new selects were going to be taken care of on my end as they release)

[warped axle]

I can't quit, I gotta wait for Faba

hopefully Oct's gauntlet will be easier, moltres and latias out of the way will help but I get the feeling Tornadus is gonna be back

[gleaming cypress]

nah, tornadus cresselia azelf

the moon will make it's LG debut

[main ruin]

No. Please no.

Lord please have mercy.

[warped axle]

i'm surprised bulu reran so soon over like, entei

[shy sinew]

if it's just a rerun of lg9 then it's entei azelf cobalion

last lg was a rerun of lg8

[warped axle]

entei has been a while and I was expected LG banner with SS Blue EXR unlocked

[gleaming cypress]

well we did get terrak LG

for the first time i think

[main ruin]

I'm waiting for Kou LG

[warped axle]

Raikou still needs to debut too

[gleaming cypress]

can't really predict if they will rerun or debut a new LA

[warped axle]

yeah Terrakion debuted last month

[shy sinew]

yep in a rerun of lg7, where terrakion released after lg7's run

[warped axle]

raikou + tornadus + entei have fun

(inb4 Eusine Suicune in LG banner instead of SS Blue for triple Beasts)

[main ruin]

Wait has ARK Steven picked up all solos

[warped axle]

yes

even a latios at level 1 1/5

I don't think he beat Bianca's record however

[gleaming cypress]

what would that be

[shy sinew]

less than an hour to do all 14

he was slowed down tremendously by no way to punch through tornadus

[warped axle]

it was less than an hour???

[shy sinew]

I was the first known tornadus clear and I got that right around an hour after reset

[gleaming cypress]

good on you

[shy sinew]

oh actually 49 minutes after

[warped axle]

congrats

[main ruin]

Wow ALL AT 1/5???

[warped axle]

no the 1/5 is for Steven

and some need EXR

Bianca needs anywhere from 1/5 to 3/5 exr

[main ruin]

Well look at that 1/5 Arc Steven beats 3/5 NC Blue

[shy sinew]

Steven is still the first candyless 14/14, but he didn't get to 14/14 faster than Bianca

[warped axle]

LG is different content than most, especially Solos

[sturdy steeple]

not anymore

[main ruin]

I mean it's true outside Gauntlet too kinda

[warped axle]

[shy sinew]

nah not really

[main ruin]

-6 Def is no yoke

[warped axle]

I'm pretty sure most UBs favor 3/5 NCBlue over 1/5 Steven

[main ruin]

Well true

[shy sinew]

yeah I would still rather have a full nc blue kit over base arc steven kit in a vacuum

[warped axle]

the offensive debuffs help a lot

which are 4/5 locked on steven

and also ST after you use all 3 uses of his B move

so he gets -3 AoE offensive debuffs then needs to spend at least 9 turns getting the other -3 on 3 different opponents, unlike Blue who is just -6 in 6 turns on everyone

steven having defense debuffs with faster defensive buffs is nice tho

wait...forgot his B move is every other move so it takes even longer than that

[sturdy steeple]

a good tradeoff for his PMUN spamming, targeted flinched, better sustain, and defensive debuffs lol

after playing with 4/5 steven i can tell you i prefer the vast amount of stuff hes got over quicker offensive debuffs on the sides

[shy sinew]

yeah 4/5 steven just offers too much

[lost juniper]

I don't think I'm candying Steven anytime soon

[karmic willow]

yeah

he's godlike enough as it is at 1/5

[lost juniper]

Especially since he solos all arenas at 1/5

[karmic willow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEJnjPI94XA

huh neat

[sturdy steeple]

as a gauntlet player you dont need to (unless you wanna do 2/5 just to make the hellish stages less annoying

[lost juniper]

I did candy Cynthia though

[lost juniper]

I'm gonna EX R so I'll be fine

[inner turret]

omni candies just became even more precious now so Im not candying anyone any time soon

[shy sinew]

I don't regret my 4/5 at all (especially since first copy came with 2 multis to pity and I had the 2 custom candies already) and he will definitely be toward the end of all my streaks moving forward

[lost juniper]

@inner turret Is your Maybun new?

[sturdy steeple]

the flipside to that is you dont need to save normal candies for any potentially unknown arc fairs

[inner turret]

got her from the select

and just got my 2nd strike candy to candy her to 3/5

[shy sinew]

speaking of candies:
do I candy holiday viola to 3/5 or geeta to 3/5 and save a candy

[sturdy steeple]

what are they at rn

[lost juniper]

True. With the deal we now can exlusively use them on the arc units

[shy sinew]

1/5 viola, 2/5 exr geeta

I think having viola 3/5 just unlocks a bunch more where geeta could be any duo comp (and I have omni candies if I need her for dc)

[sturdy steeple]

viola gains a lot from 2/5 and geetas solos become easier from 3/5 so candying em both once would be ok

[lost juniper]

Nice. You now have all normal types?

[inner turret]

yeah i took whitney too

now i just need 3/5 red and pal victor (and lenora ) and everyone's 3/5

pal victor gets nothing from 3/5 it's pretty sad, i'll wait before candying him lol

[shy sinew]

was also looking at potentially double candying arven until I saw all his 1/5 solos, clearly I slept on this man

[heavy sinew]

erm you can do 3/5 EXR arven on moltres

[warm lodge]

This is nuts
Actual damage from level 1

[inner turret]

https://youtu.be/ozgfE5yZ8xY

[shy sinew]

sure but I only have 2 support candies and 1/5 spring burgh probably wants one more than Arven does

[bitter gate]

Tmr is the day I do my Mix pick

still debating on what I want it to be

[lost juniper]

Yeah. I wanted Rika but she comes in select

Guess I'll just decide when it refreshes

[heavy sinew]

oh shoot me too

[bitter gate]

Same

I have gems for a fair select, a SC select and the 7.5 needed to pity what I'm missing between Sawyer/Rachel

if I were missing Arven I'd have pitied him there

but I'm not

Still, some hard choices

Plumeria and Kiawe first come to mind, then Whitney

and then Petrel

[heavy sinew]

15k tomorrow, I think I'm only gonna do tech and support scouts

[bitter gate]

they don't come tmr

they'll slowly release over every day

strike on monday, tech on tuesday, support on wednesday

SC1 on thursday, SC2 on Friday

[shy sinew]

yaeh 5 consecutive selects starting on the 2nd

[bitter gate]

I'll probably commit to Kiawe

i could pick another support I'm missing, but I need to stop with collector's mindset and actually pick shit I want to play lol

[shy sinew]

I'm on the select screen for my mix pity, if the pool doesn't update then I finally get classic Elesa but if it does then probably Poppy or something

[quaint tartan]

Hoping the pool updates, gotta grab Alt Selene

[bitter gate]

it will

[shy sinew]

I was going to get Arven from it, but then last daily decided to be nice

[bitter gate]

it's kinda sad there's too little bad units left to pick from the pool, lol

But Kiawe is mostly because I want to try Kabu/Kiawe

[gleaming cypress]

how much do i need to spend each day for mix

since its paid gems only

[shy sinew]

helper team is using me "for science" since at worst I pity a unit I want rather than a unit I want from the last 3 months, and we aren't super well-versed on whether the selection pool is decided when you hit 300/300 or when you make your selection

mix really is just a spend within your own means kinda thing

[bitter gate]

Ah yes, I love the science motivation

[lost juniper]

That's the thing about mix. You can spend as much or as little as you want

[bitter gate]

That's also why my selections are like that, lol

for science

[shy sinew]

though today I should figure out what I take off the selects assuming I have enough gems for them (Lance pls be nice)

[gleaming cypress]

what are some good units that you've gotten from mix

f2p so don't care about mix much

[bitter gate]

the mix-exclusives for one

I've only pitied through mix once, though I forget what exactly I pitied from it, lmao

[shy sinew]

the mix pairs are a bit samey but it is the only way to get them

[bitter gate]

this would be my second round at it

[raven crane]

Let’s just put “not recommended” because it’s too easy.

[bitter gate]

Oh, I actually did a randomizer on my pick

[shy sinew]

my pities have been Ball Guy, SS Steven, AnniMay, SS Diantha, VKris, Archer, and SS Hilbert thus far but mix has also helped me catch up on a roster check from taking a couple years away from the game

[bitter gate]

which was Palentine's Mallow

who i then proceeded to randomly get from a daily on the palentine's banner a week after

as far as gradual picks went, I got Summer Liza, a SS Hau dupe, a SC Shauna dupe, and one BT Leon throughout both pities

not a very kind flow, but it'll do

[rocky oasis]

i assume this team is using ss grims as a flinchbot

[bitter gate]

yes

only blue syncs and you hop between

and you need flameproof on grims

[rocky oasis]

def needs FA on ss blue

or at least more flinch luck than i got

[bitter gate]

the grid is probably something like this + fire guard

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/2101/900?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBggLGhwfJScqLTM3Og

or they took flameproof

and took other tiles

[karmic willow]

also

i just realized

SS Nemona + Karen eats Terrakion

[shy sinew]

wait why does the 1/5 arven regirock clear on stdk's doc show grass guard ls

[sturdy steeple]

We are human and make mistakes

[shy sinew]

mm fair, I'm doing it with vigilance right now but sometimes my brain doesn't work

[karmic willow]

I need more dumb clodsires

[shy notch]

Don’t hit yourself in confusion challenge

[lost juniper]

What move level?

[shy notch]

3/5 EXR

[errant plume]

I went to 12% remaining HP with the same investment but without Discombobulate because it feels useless

[shy notch]

Ideally I have it to dodge the crit brutal swing on bar 2 but I got hit anyway

[dawn plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2HCYWPCGwA this flew under the radar what with all the arc steven nonsense

5/5 +10E raikou

[shy notch]

My skill gears also could be better

[dawn plume]

very cool rednhoho

[errant plume]

And I feel like nuking Bar 2 is the play, not letting Torn have a free +4 Speed

[sturdy steeple]

Physical moves up 30% skill gears when

[lost juniper]

I imagine Raikou could do lower

[raven crane]

lol.

[dawn plume]

i think you could maybe sack extra energy and just run mad strength but you would have to hope for a toxic para

cuz this run uses antitoxin

tighen/toughen up and triage tank def seem required

[sturdy steeple]

Yep

[dawn plume]

unfortunately aint no one investing in raikou rn

what with the chatelaines getting EX and raikou not

feels bad

[chrome halo]

DeNA fear the power of EX MC

[quaint tartan]

DeNa fear the power of giving a really cool Pokemon to a scoutable unit

[lost juniper]

I'm gonna invest on Raikou soon

I'll try 3/5 0/20

[tender horizon]

Ok how did he have 5 tickets or what

[dawn plume]

he makes new accounts to try solos

that mc is named raikou cuz that account was probably made just to hyperinvest in raikou

he is very dedicated to his craft

[tender horizon]

How do u get those resources on a new account

Tf

Unless he planned this 1 month before

[dawn plume]

idk rednhoho is a wizard

[heavy sinew]

Dena's strongest soldier

[kind imp]

His pairs appear for a bit in the vid

[heavy sinew]

autocorrect my behated

[kind imp]

So he prob used the acc for other stuff too

[heavy sinew]

Did shauntal latios ever happen?

[kind imp]

Ye

But by boshi

[shy notch]

Level 150 1/5 Cyrus

[heavy sinew]

ah ok

just making sure

[tender horizon]

Thats such a weird sequenc e of sync pairs

[dawn plume]

that must just be his "awful solos to try" account

ex shauntal spotted

[tender horizon]

Theres no way that sequence is random

[dawn plume]

4 star gardenia spotted

[tender horizon]

I think these are all sync pairs he marked favorites

Cus hes doing solos

[dawn plume]

this is prob the account he did the 1/5 gardenia solo LOL

[kind imp]

It's sorted by level

[heavy sinew]

gardenia did not need to be 1/5 for that yet here we are

[tender horizon]

He must be logging on there and doing lodge daily to be able to 150 these many pairs

[lost juniper]

Man sure is dedicated

[worthy horizon]

huh lv 1 exr stats are like 10 hp and defense below lv 50 0/20

still good to see that happen

[tender horizon]

Evelyn sync OP

[heavy sinew]

On a frozen coba is nutty

[graceful folio]

That’s an original team, I like it haha

[shy sinew]

just revisited ss brendan vs azelf, was one potion away on my first try and then couldn't clear bar 1 for another 40 minutes before giving up out of anger

[tender horizon]

Cant wait to pull NY Lillie from daily scout TOMORROW

[lost juniper]

Wtf

[copper helm]

I got frozen on my 1st try then paralysis before my video

[stuck mantle]

You can be for like 6-8 moves frozen / flinched from them

Normal🤣

Steven tank like champ lol only sync deal some damage i see

[sturdy steeple]

Classic minute long uxie freezes

[lost juniper]

I was thinking of your video when it happened.

[kind imp]

how does freeze work again?

[lost juniper]

I was frozen twice too

[raven crane]

At this point any time a freeze pops I would just put the game on auto and go do errands.

Because it will NOT be done by time you're back.

[rocky oasis]

how long you get frozen is rng

also makes it a pain in the ass vs cobalion bc sometimes he thaws in 2 moves

[worthy horizon]

yea i thought it'd be an rng check every x amount of of seconds

that's how it works in the main games iirc, every turn is a dice roll

[heavy sinew]

hey i've seen this one before

[dawn plume]

the funny part is steven probably still wins anyways

[shy sinew]

idk if anyone has seen my arc steven vs latios but I did get absolutely bodied by the bar 2 salamence because I kept it alive

[dawn plume]

i saw someone earlier who left dragonite alive and got burned by heat wave

[shy sinew]

oh I've done that too

my steven was running status immunity from grid so I wasn't worried though

[sturdy steeple]

😭 please kill the sides first

[tender horizon]

Smart team

[heavy sinew]

confusion reliant 😭

[dawn plume]

i should look through his teams but it will crash my game

[river cliff]

Surprised they got bp Surge + dc Gladion to work without either of them EXed, I had a hard time trying to make that work

[lost juniper]

Did 5 more solos with level 100, steel gear and 0 invesment

From easiest to hardest out of these 5: Entei, Raikou, Registeel, Tapu Bulu, Azelf

I was very close with Latias. Uxie's Iron Tail hits too hard to do it at this invesment

[rocky oasis]

uxie 50% is suprisingly obnoxious

iron tail will kill so many solos

[dawn plume]

uxie iron tail still hurts even w the steel rebuff?

[vital ibex]

use your stamina

[lost juniper]

Yes

But Shadow Ball is much worse

It's the real run killer

[dawn plume]

yeah i’d imagine

i almost wonder if saving sync for bar 2 is worth but the healing is important so prob not

and the mega stats

[karmic willow]

Me when I finally nuked Moltres

Still practicing the Solo

[true tartan]

lol

you did it yourself?

[rocky oasis]

lol i tried the moltres solo

could barely make it to bar 2 w/ 4/5 ss steven

[dawn plume]

everyone did the potionchu fix i feel like lol

[karmic willow]

Yeah

I did the pot chu method too

[rocky oasis]

i gave up and tossed him vs latias

[silent shell]

Which BP Master Fair has the highest solo?

MC Regirock or Morgan?

I have enough tickets for 3/5

[worthy horizon]

5 vs 6

morgan is the better pick for many reasons

[silent shell]

Such as?

[worthy horizon]

much more reliable, regirock relies on mpr for healing and basically it's rednhoho carrying his solo count

[silent shell]

Sorry, i’m out of touch for a while😅

I see

[worthy horizon]

regirock doesn't have vigilance on grid or atk/spa debuffs and morgan has atk debuffs

and morgan has very good gauge on bullet seed thanks to recharging strike whereas regirock has to rely on rock throw

and regi doesn't self buff crit

and no ex

kinda hard to even pinpoint what regirock actually has over morgan tbh, gets to max its defenses at least

[bitter gate]

Regen, that's kinda it really

And cheesy last word

Impervious too I guess

[dawn plume]

one more hour until the GOAT unit of this momth

dc silver

[median swan]

so trueeeee

[dawn plume]

he might be the new best dc unit im ngl

that tm is very good

[shy sinew]

I haven't even read his kit yet ngl

so time for a live adept reaction to dc silver

holy shit what is that tm

[chrome halo]

it's that good?

i haven't read his yet

[shy sinew]

1 use +2 speed, accuracy, evasion, crit

mpr2 on grid

[chrome halo]

holy

[shy sinew]

and flying zone hp recovery

okay yeah I'm 3/5ing this guy next

shifty striker 3 in case resetting for the evasion wasn't enough

[chrome halo]

hmm he might be my next 3/5 after Wally

[dawn plume]

mind games 9 and trip up 9 on base kit as well

[shy sinew]

I literally just finished Gladion and was going to do Wally for High Score, but might not even use him tbh

[raven crane]

Wait I have to get Silver for Flying max.

Fiiine.

[dawn plume]

he gud

even at 1/5 good fast debuffs

[raven crane]

Wish they'd stop doing these damn things once a month.

That or release a Super Sparring Event every single month to compensate..

[dawn plume]

barry and staraptor next month but normal type bc they already have 2 flying types in the ticket shop

would love if super sparring was more common

[raven crane]

Prolly Sprint.

[chrome halo]

Shauna & Goodra with Field

[raven crane]

Assuming they'll alternate..

[chrome halo]

if she gets Field Sylveon i would die

[raven crane]

Hello Gakon.

[chrome halo]

hi Salamence

[shy sinew]

ooh yes, we need another dragon zone setter

knowing them though it will be rain!

[chrome halo]

[raven crane]

I'm pretty sad I'll probably have to deal with Bianca getting Mienshao and being a Damage Challenge pair..

I wanted it to at least be Variety..

[chrome halo]

so far all the DC pairs have paired with the pokemon they used as NPC right

[dawn plume]

so far yea

well silver hasnt used crobat yet but he will

[chrome halo]

i don't remember Gladion using Weavile

[dawn plume]

like in this game or in his own game?

[dawn plume]

it was an early one

[shy sinew]

weavile, that pokemon known for its very classic rock weakness

and not at all for dying to a single punch from me and my noodle arms

[raven crane]

Stealth Rocks.

[dawn plume]

hop and dubwool normal field LETS GOOOOO

[chrome halo]

watch them being Sprint

[raven crane]

Is this Zamazenta, or?

Wait it's Electric.

[dawn plume]

you’re gonna laugh

its pincurchin

[worthy horizon]

^

[raven crane]

LMFAO.

[chrome halo]

so Field Pincurchin

💀

[raven crane]

Please Bianca just get.... Whatever you have.

Is that Chandelure she had?

[dawn plume]

such a forgettable pokemon that the fact dena added it means he might actually get it 💀

[raven crane]

Er, has.

[dawn plume]

mienshao and chandelure

[raven crane]

Please be Bianca and Chandelure.

Save Mienshao from this fate..

[shy sinew]

wait has every dc sprint been the npc from a 3 target stage or are they being at least a little creative with it

[raven crane]

Nemo has Lycanroc.

[shy sinew]

they're a field tho right?

[raven crane]

Oh Sprint.

It's nearly 2 AM, my senses are cooked.

[shy sinew]

I'm trying to figure out if all the sprints come from the 3 target npcs, and the fields from the 1 target npcs

[chrome halo]

Bede uses Mawile and G Rapidash, knowing DeNA we would get a Field Mawile

[shy sinew]

Me too, overthinking everything is the only thing keeping my head on until reset

[chrome halo]

wth you guys should go to sleep

💀

[dawn plume]

its a long weekend we chillin

[shy sinew]

nah I've done all my anni pulls at reset and I'm not about to ruin that on the last day

[raven crane]

Unironically do be busy as shit tomorrow.

So sleeping is in my best interest buuut.

NAAAAAAAAH.

[raven crane]

Also, yes.

Wally, Blue, Hugh.

[shy sinew]

DC Gladion is field right? I think he ruins this for me

[raven crane]

He is Field, yes.

[shy sinew]

yeah he would have been the rock aoe opponent because weavile is definitely not psychic weak

[raven crane]

Well

Marnie is also 3v3.

So she ruins it just the same.

[shy sinew]

so there isn't a pattern after all 😦

[raven crane]

Nemo is the only one that is 3v1.

Out of 7.

[quaint tartan]

This

[shy sinew]

yeah I just want the free rewards tbh

[raven crane]

Same.

It's a very good event.

Free and easy for those who want the rewards and dip.

[quaint tartan]

We’re also biased bc anni edition has double rewards but still, it was nice to have like 900 dc tickets without noticing in the bag

[raven crane]

WAIT IT DOES?

[shy sinew]

I wouldn't mind if the rewards went on for a bit longer, but gradually dropped in quality off toward the 50k points for a training ticket mark

[raven crane]

I'M GONNA BE RICH.

[shy sinew]

yep 400 tickets just for a combined million

[raven crane]

EEEEASY.

[chrome halo]

this month super sparring has double rewards from the first one

[raven crane]

Now let's make that a pattern.

[quaint tartan]

Yup, got gladion from 1/5 to 3/5 and still have points for a copy of silver

[raven crane]

800 in November.

[chrome halo]

i'm not ready for 3/5 EX Anni Skyla 💀

[blissful rose]

Good luck to everyone pulling Lance!

[wise raven]

good luck to everyone doing the solo runs using him so I can decide to pull him or not

[worthy horizon]

10th multi

[bitter gate]

i wonder what the scaling is

[pearl beacon]

Guess who got 9 out of mix

[bitter gate]

lol

imagine getting to pull 9 mix lol

[true tartan]

I got Leaf

and yeah, the mix one

thankfuly, I got Summer Tate too

so, now to see if I can do any Summer Tate solo lowered...

without wanting my sanity to go down the drains

[bitter gate]

luccsaccs

[lost juniper]

I decided to just pick Mix Leaf

Probably not gonna be that active on the mix scout given now I need to save the paid gems for arc units

[pearl beacon]

She's nice at base
Better than Blue for sure

[gleaming cypress]

arc lance solos incoming...

[pearl beacon]

Bruh this is depressing

Not even dauntless or whatever they can give at base

[worthy horizon]

latios done at lv 100 ex no gear skill gear

can definitely go lower

wait why did i say no gear

i used gear

50 wasn't enough this time xd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nACA5p2HMWw

[chrome halo]

his B move is dual scaling this will help a lot

and yes, his B Move is on the same level as Ash's

[karmic willow]

3 bad paid multis on lance

I sleep

[karmic willow]

I want my luck back zzzz

No luck it gone

[karmic willow]

@median swan dc silver solos when

Bulu should be a given

[true tartan]

higher

[lost juniper]

My luck was terrible but I got Lance

No pity thank god

[chrome halo]

i thought the BP difference was minimal at first but then i realized that Lance is practically better since he has multipliers and can stack SMUN way easier than Ash

Ash has been dethroned ?

[true tartan]

I put the maximum scenarios for both

[blissful rose]

11th multi for me to get Lance. At least it's not pity, thank Arceus.

[lost juniper]

Lance can also debuff quickly

[true tartan]

Ash beats Lance in Sp. Attack by 33%, while Lance beats Ash by 7% in BP

[lost juniper]

I got him on the 12th

[true tartan]

but... that's not counting that Lance can stack SMUN for his B Move while Ash spends them on Thunder

[lost juniper]

Stopping here since arc units need 500

[chrome halo]

yeah, that's the big reason i consider Lance being better

[chrome halo]

that too

[true tartan]

so, in practice, Lance's move is stronger

[robust nymph]

he better be, it's been too long, kick that rat down

[lost juniper]

Ash is not unique now

Jacq's B move has similar scaling too

[bitter gate]

different strengths

[lost juniper]

Sure but still

[bitter gate]

more on the jacq side

[median swan]

https://youtu.be/3236RRy6UUU?si=Lox6OORDi6AOwWTb

[lost juniper]

Jacq trades it off by doing it once per sync

[bitter gate]

because lance can kinda afford to not do very bad damage while charging up his delete button

but yeah, his 'stacked' range over a sync's rotation is also "worse"

[bitter gate]

that was fast

lol

[vagrant crypt]

https://youtu.be/Q0z4Nt-B-mk?si=UwM7O2MYBgN9WkI1

[vagrant crypt]

Skill Gears :

Bracelet : 30HP, 75Atk, 25Def
•Ground P-Move DR & S-Move DR 5%
•Attack Move DR 3%
•Flying Zone: P-Move DR & S-Move DR 5%

Bandana : 30Hp, 75SpAtk, 30SpDef
•Atk Moves DR 3%
•Fire P-Move DR & S-Move DR 5%

Pin : 100Hp, 15Def, 20SpAtk
•Status Cond : S-Moves up 4%
•Ghost Zone : Moves up 4%
•Atk Moves DR 3%

Lucky skill : C.S 2.

[wild frost]

https://tenor.com/view/gimme-gif-5731137

Think ya found my next saving motivation. Thanks!

[lost juniper]

Np, it's mine too

[wild frost]

Huge fan of N, Serena, and Lillie so I’m happy that Lillie was free this anni

[lost juniper]

Yeah Anni Lillie 2 was a big W

I love Solgaleo so I'm glad it's free

[wild frost]

Solgaleo being paired with her was a massive w too haha yeah. Double win for me with the past couple annis

First Riley dream pair with lucario happens for free

Now Lillie got paired with my preferred alola legend

It feels like some of the recent freebies have been like apologies to some of my bad luck on banners ||excluding this trio where I got two of them first multi each. Only went past and all way to pity on Steven.||

[dusk yoke]

btw idk where to ask but is pinpoint entry a deluxe cookie skill only?

[median swan]

yes

only on the 1-star and 2-star ones too

[vagrant crypt]

https://youtu.be/kYJrp6MLfhA?si=tVIhQGjIiCl47Zpy

[vagrant crypt]

Skill Gears :

Bracelet : 30HP, 75Atk, 25Def
•Ground P-Move DR & S-Move DR 5%
•Attack Move DR 3%
•Flying Zone: P-Move DR & S-Move DR 5%

Bandana : 30Hp, 75SpAtk, 30SpDef
•Atk Moves DR 3%
•Fire P-Move DR & S-Move DR 5%

Pin : 100Hp, 15Def, 20SpAtk
•Status Cond : S-Moves up 4%
•Ghost Zone : Moves up 4%
•Atk Moves DR 3%

Lucky skill : Speedy Entry 2.

[worthy horizon]

yes 1* and 2* deluxes but note that the odds of getting it from 1* are 0.62% and from 2* it's 3.75%, you're over 6x as likely with 2*

source https://www.serebii.net/pokemonmasters/luckyskills.shtml

[dusk yoke]

ok

[worthy horizon]

i've definitely spent more cookies than i should have without knowing that info

nobody else ever mentions it

[lost juniper]

I know someone already did level 100 arc lance solo, but I lowered it to 1/5 0/20

He doesn't even need EX for this

[worthy horizon]

yeah that run was still high investment

was going to ex so i just did it early and tried it at lv 50

good to see it pushed lower

[lost juniper]

I had to use skill gear and be lucky

It's not bad but not free like Steven's solo

[worthy horizon]

yep

[tender horizon]

Any investigations into what synv pairs are part of daily scout

Is ball guy and ny lillie just for show

[blissful rose]

So far we know gen pools are in and Rachel.

No 5* limited reports yet.

[gleaming cypress]

[lost juniper]

https://youtu.be/uXBPNgxMkJU?si=Ab0plT-VcQ4BUt0r

1/5 Mix Leaf gets some use at least

[gleaming cypress]

i just realized

mix kantrio are all just field clones of each other

except the weather they set is different

[lost juniper]

Pretty much

[gleaming cypress]

their B moves are very similar too

[lost juniper]

Red is more defensive, Blue is offensive, and Leaf is in between

Safe to say, Blue is the least useful out of them

[inner turret]

What are Lance's crimes so far

[tender horizon]

Good for dc

[lost juniper]

SS Hilda is better

Even when both have 5/5 EX R +10E

[sour isle]

https://vxtwitter.com/TALDYSJfJNLjkzP/status/1830168823515042178

;o

3/5 eh

[inner turret]

https://youtu.be/3236RRy6UUU?si=Lox6OORDi6AOwWTb mud did better

[robust nymph]

Patiently waiting for Lance's crimes to be tallied up

[true tartan]

I've already added 5 of his solos

all 1/5 lol

[karmic willow]

surprisingly enough

oh shit nvm

[quaint tartan]

What hasn’t been done yet? I can give it a try

[quaint tartan]

I’ll try cress and uxie and torn once his lodge counterpart stops giving me trash topics

[bitter gate]

Lol, I got great topics and he left me at the 5th topic before I could use any presents

And I can't reset that so lol

[quaint tartan]

I had to restart like 20 times to get places or other lol

[vagrant crypt]

https://youtu.be/bcXlSRkeu1E?si=4RL30Q9nBe_DZsU3

[bitter gate]

Has no one actually gotten dupes on him lol

[worthy horizon]

if scout points were still 400 i would have gone up to there

and also i have a move candy available

the people who have high level lance are doing dc really

or stuck in trainer lodge

[blissful rose]

I have him but he is not a high priority for me to candy atm.

[quaint tartan]

(Got uxie)

[quaint tartan]

[bitter gate]

Come on, get to 14 already

[stuck mantle]

Go bicio go

[quaint tartan]

Don’t know if he can get to 14, but I can do max investments for uxie coba the Regis and cress

[true tartan]

not getting him Adam?

he'll score high in DC Ranking

[quaint tartan]

Those seems the easiest with my time constraints

[true tartan]

if he can flinch... Entei is also on board

even more when his sync is physical lol

[covert geode]

https://x.com/fren56121/status/1830135658603516120

レン (@fren56121) on X

#LBクレセリア単騎
アルコスワタル&カイリュー
クレセリアvery hard
技レベル4 EXロールあり
ポテンシャル:P技後素早さアップ2

割とゲージには気を使う印象
今回は怯ませましたが、最終ゲージはシンクロ技で飛ばせるので、毒は受けても良さそう

Twitter · Sep 1, 2024, 6:48 AM

https://x.com/RRRrm268/status/1830136070442533332

ラルド (@RRRrm268) on X

#LBトルネロス単騎
アルコスワタル＆カイリュー
EXロールあり
ボード上限＋10

麻痺両刀持ちだから流石にいけるよね

Twitter · Sep 1, 2024, 6:50 AM

[bitter gate]

The only barrier is Moltres so

[true tartan]

yup

[bitter gate]

Once he gets that, everything else is ez

Torn down, Cress down

[true tartan]

he'd need like procc every FT2

and every flinch lol

[bitter gate]

Let someone go through the misery of trying it

Lol

[true tartan]

someone will surely walk that path haha

oh well, I'll update later on, I'm tired

[bitter gate]

Rarudo's is +10 E lol

Let him do it

[worthy horizon]

30% flinch and gets all his multipliers denied bc you can't debuff

doesn't look great

[quaint tartan]

Uxie uploading rn

[bitter gate]

It's essentially like NC Blue but more damage less durability

It's gonna be a tight one

[lost juniper]

https://youtu.be/K9wI69retHc?si=3inuVIeKhUIXEiD2

[covert geode]

Cobalion
https://x.com/Luri_Choucho/status/1830186680583930204

瑠璃垣 (@Luri_Choucho) on X

なにもわからない状態で1発クリア

Twitter · Sep 1, 2024, 10:11 AM

[vagrant crypt]

Entei is also possible in 1/5 but his burn is in bar 3... AAHHHH

[lost juniper]

I doubt you need that high invesment. 3/5 should be enough

[vagrant crypt]

Does it have the guaranteed burn in bar 3?

[lost juniper]

Pretty sure he does

[worthy horizon]

crucial thing with nc blue is +1 def every turn

[lost juniper]

Hostile Environent 10 moment

[vagrant crypt]

Ah yes, good point.

[lost juniper]

Maybe if you stall on Bar 2 you can get a bit of time before the heat wave?

Entei doesn't refresh gauges automatically on Bar switches

[quaint tartan]

https://youtu.be/G9UgE9mDiOg?si=mCAEBffIWwLXmm4u

[bitter gate]

So at this point it's what

Entei, Regirock and Terrakion

[worthy horizon]

terrakion might wall too

[bitter gate]

it's a matter of flinch/survival, i'm pretty sure he has the raw firepower to just

brute past it

it should be significantly easier than Moltres, at least

[worthy horizon]

yeah

[vagrant crypt]

[lost juniper]

That reminds me when I did NC Red solo on Entei

Always got to half Bar 3, then die

[vagrant crypt]

I must have played badly...

[lost juniper]

I think you should've synced first

Then B move is stronger

[vagrant crypt]

Yeah, I see...

[lost juniper]

Also Hyper Beam isn't mitigated by burn

[quaint tartan]

I’ll be doing English run still

[chrome halo]

I can understand the slow rising of body counts for Lance

30% flinch is quite unreliable when you need it to proc nearly every attack

[bitter gate]

wouldn't say a lot of these are necessarily flinch reliant

terrakion and moltres are, the others have a lot more leeway for error

[chrome halo]

At least he has self regen, altho 6.25% doesn't give him too much margin for errors

He has 3 arenas left right?

Terrakion, Moltres and Entei?

[worthy horizon]

recup 2 and grid vigilance help a lot with survivability

[quaint tartan]

I think entei has been done

I mean it seems easy

I just got torn and latias

[mortal tree]

Entei is free, yeah

[quaint tartan]

It is lol

Moltres is kinda pain bc not only being walled being unable to debuff, you also want both fast track and flameproof

And unbending

[bitter gate]

https://x.com/Sodium07338972/status/1830194477446938677

なとりうむ (@Sodium07338972) on X

#LBテラキオン単騎
アルコスワタル　3/5EXR +6E
P技後素早さアップ2
火力のコスパ良すぎて軽減とは？って感じ
あと1回の怯みのバリューが高すぎる

Twitter · Sep 1, 2024, 10:42 AM

I told y'all

it wouldn't be that hard lol

13

[worthy horizon]

tanks surprisingly well there

[bitter gate]

he tanks well in general

just that Moltres is the big barrier

[worthy horizon]

has to handle gauge, defense debuffs, and burn simultaneously

[bitter gate]

The main thing he has to do is kill bar 2 asap

which I think with sync + hyper beam is reasonable

if he can do that I think it's fine

you have leeway to take one burn

but that's it, FT is probably ideal

needs +8 I think

[quaint tartan]

But sync is without both multipliers

You cannot attivate either innate or relentless

[bitter gate]

yeah

the point is to just

hit as hard as you can

which he has the output for it even despite lacking debuffs

it's just a flinch check

@quaint tartan tell me

does para/flinch simultaneously

[quaint tartan]

No

[bitter gate]

or does it occur at an isolated rate

oh, so it's either

[quaint tartan]

It can happen separately

[bitter gate]

kk

[copper helm]

Was Uxie auto soloed by Arc Steven?

[worthy horizon]

dunno but i'm guessing he should be capable of autoing everything

[vagrant crypt]

No crit.

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-cinema-homelander-cinema-gif-26650685

[tender horizon]

Lance better than Cynthia soon

[worthy horizon]

moltres solo would be quite the downgrade from nc blue or that's my current impression

even with more damage he has to put up with a lot more bs

but it's more just not having traditional methods of antigimmicking moltres than pure certainty

can't run ft2 unbending and flameproof

[quaint tartan]

Loving how they gave Lance the fancy “P - Move & Sync Move - Crit” when it could have easily been good old soften up 1

[bitter gate]

Ohh

Has Nita soloed Raikou yet

Because if she hasnt

Someone just did it

[sturdy steeple]

Yay

[bitter gate]

https://x.com/manimanikakaka/status/1830165972608831774?t=lnPj_ZJz63ruiM97o-Tp0g&s=19

まにすら (@manimanikakaka) on X

EX実装されたのでやってみました ある程度ゴリ押しが効くようになってました
…破壊光線避けるつもりで打った空を飛ぶに雷合わされておいは恥ずかしか🤟🤪🤟

Twitter · Sep 1, 2024, 8:49 AM

The clear in question

[worthy horizon]

still notably different for providing crit without tm which could help for rally

or cases where you don't want gradual healing bc time penalty even if that's not actually dc

[vagrant crypt]

https://youtu.be/LxRJRGZQ88M?si=09RZC99UApUEeZzP

https://tenor.com/view/alexis-alexis-sanchez-manchester-united-gif-10867898

[lost juniper]

Yesss

0/20?

[vagrant crypt]

Yes!

[vagrant crypt]

Skill Gears :

Bracelet : 30HP, 75Atk, 25Def
•Ground P-Move DR & S-Move DR 5%
•Attack Move DR 3%
•Flying Zone: P-Move DR & S-Move DR 5%

Bandana : 30Hp, 75SpAtk, 30SpDef
•Atk Moves DR 3%
•Fire P-Move DR & S-Move DR 5%

Pin : 100Hp, 15Def, 20SpAtk
•Status Cond : S-Moves up 4%
•Ghost Zone : Moves up 4%
•Atk Moves DR 3%

Lucky skill : Stalwart.

[dawn plume]

got mix leaf day 1 feeling #blessed

lance got 13/14 too nice

thought he might

strongest anni yet to no one’s surprise

[dawn plume]

self cleanse proccing right before the b move lmao classic

[pearl beacon]

500 for one copy is enough

2/2 arc pity, things are getting weird

Glad he can solo few stages at 1/5

[robust nymph]

What's he missing?

[dawn plume]

moltres

cant debuff so probably no shot

[robust nymph]

Ah

[stuck mantle]

Lol already lance 13 got?

Wow crazy

[tender horizon]

as expected

[stuck mantle]

Moltres any one try?

[quaint tartan]

I did but the defense debuffs are killing you

[stuck mantle]

And prob speed

[tender horizon]

mm i never realised

Tornadus has Ramming Speed

and Confusion Synergy on bar 3

[stuck mantle]

Yeap its why he confu you bar 3

Since deal more damage

Off course can happend bar1 from huricanes but need be unlucky get it

[rocky oasis]

bar 3 is so miserable if your solo cant para

[stuck mantle]

Ask arc steven about it🤣

[heavy sinew]

Damn lance damage sucks

I am definitely ignoring the fact he can solo 13/14

[dawn plume]

he is ash and jacq pilled

got that one move that just kills everything

[rocky oasis]

30% chance to punch yourself iirc?

[stuck mantle]

Except jacq can kill big bird he not

[rocky oasis]

feels way higher than that

[vital ibex]

i feel like lance could do moltres

just hasn't yet

[stuck mantle]

He need speed sustain

You cant just spam move - speed from scratch

[tender horizon]

No multipliers innate

and yea lance feels mid offtype

they could've made his B-move aoe but they didnt

zz

[pearl beacon]

Love him but he doesn't keep up w the others

Trying him 1/5 in DC provides nothing

Except grief for pity

But at least he's good lg wise

[stuck mantle]

In dc lance need alot stuff

Like rentles extra rebuff

For lg 1/5 is ok

For duo will be realy good

[lost juniper]

Lance was useful for DC even at 1/5

[graceful folio]

Contrasting opinions I see

[pearl beacon]

Maybe in some f2p teams

[shy notch]

I’m conflicted about candy priorities beyond 3/5 (if it’s even worth it). I guess 4/5 Steven > 5/5 Cynthia > 4/5 Lance

[pearl beacon]

Check this #1012311116778586182 message

Steven is more than broken at base, you may exr him but candies aren't doing much difference

[shy notch]

Ye Steven is busted. The extra investment would be more for other game modes like ultimate battles. Support EXR definitely worth it at a minimum

[pearl beacon]

Do you have ncBlue?

Or other broken supps

[shy notch]

My roster is shallow now unfortunately

[pearl beacon]

Issie is, 3 candies ok him is a whole year of candies

[lost juniper]

I got 1.6 million in dragon 3v1 dc with him

[heavy sinew]

I lost my luck

[shy notch]

It’s gonna be a looong grind

[pearl beacon]

*general ones

[heavy sinew]

I think I might pity one of the annis if they don't come soon

[graceful folio]

[lost juniper]

No I used him with Aaron and Lucas

[graceful folio]

I am going to pity the 2nd arc in a row lmfao

[lost juniper]

The rebuff boosted Lucas' nuke combined with the final B move

It did like 400k

[pearl beacon]

Mine didn't even reached 120k, the hell

[lost juniper]

Ok not 400k I confused it with Lucas' sync. It did 270k

[pearl beacon]

Is exr lucas?

Need to pump my dragon team a bit
Btw better movong on dc channel

[sturdy steeple]

yeah thats about right, and cynthia would be worth the 3/5 first and foremost over steven

[lost juniper]

Nope

He does have +6e though

[sharp lichen]

Im suprised Lance hasn’t solo’d Latias yet

Ice beam probably ends up killing him though at 3rd bar unless you get lucky

[vital ibex]

just flinch lol

[sturdy steeple]

Just need someone to record it lol

It's not something that is impossible

Also I just updated the doc, and I also got lance so imma do runs now

[shy notch]

Yeah agree that Cynthia wants 3/5 first

[lost juniper]

Lance wants 3/5 before Steven though. Steven can manage at 1/5 but Lance wants 3/5

[lost juniper]

Hope you got him quickly

[sturdy steeple]

I think I'll have enough gems to pity Lear so I think I'm safe this anni

[blissful rose]

Too early of a conclusion, who knows when the next Arc Suits gonna come.

[shy notch]

Lance probably wants 3/5 more than Cynthia for LG

I’m betting the next arc fairs will be in December. Should probably save…

[lost juniper]

Or half anni

[shy notch]

I think it’s both tbh

[blissful rose]

Expecting Alder soon and Bug needs help.

[pearl beacon]

Better be half anni
I was close to just today
Not many can even think to afford that cycle

[karmic willow]

wowowowow

so many gems

[heavy sinew]

Imagine having gems

[karmic willow]

epic

[shy notch]

We still haven’t gotten all the Neo Champs tho. I could see them doing that in December instead

[pearl beacon]

I had

Imagine saving for months to dump 2 pity on the new pity system

Beyond broken, need to know we're not getting those at anni

[shy notch]

Imagine doing the paid banner and not getting them. The custom powerups just sitting in your bag

[pearl beacon]

Powerups will be the minor thing, you got custom candies

[shy notch]

For sure

[pearl beacon]

Btw you have to account it's pity any time you pull, going halfaway w paid is crazy

Unless you can if needed

[shy notch]

I would cry having to pity a 500 scout point paid banner

[lost juniper]

https://youtu.be/uKbzgwETnbk?si=mlry9IUUdja4J6YS

Morgan lowered

[autumn sapphire]

im pretty convinced 1/5 arc suit lance can only solo latios lmao, feel like he needs more move levels to solo the others

[sturdy steeple]

he can do azelf, entei, raikou, bulu, and registeel at 1/5 currently

[lost juniper]

He actually soloed like 5 arenas at 1/5

[autumn sapphire]

oh really? maybe im doing something wrong then

[lost juniper]

You save B-move for as late as possible

And get fast track procs

[autumn sapphire]

ahhhhhh alright, bc i always end up using his b move at the second bar

[lost juniper]

I think Cress might be able to be lowered to 1/5 EX R

Since it only really needed the natural remedy tile

[dawn plume]

oh i thought lance got 13/14 already didnt realize he was missing latias

well that should definitely happen

[stuck mantle]

He miss latias?

[dawn plume]

for now but i'm sure someone will get it

[stuck mantle]

Lol strange:)

This should be easy too

[dawn plume]

he got terrakion which should be much harder

[stuck mantle]

Yeap bar 3 terra is pain

[quaint tartan]

I have it

lol

[stuck mantle]

Latias you drop 2 sta

[dawn plume]

oop well

there u go

[stuck mantle]

Did you post vid since nobody add in sheet?

[quaint tartan]

Uploading it in a sec

[dawn plume]

https://vxtwitter.com/Sodium07338972/status/1830278815777686001 rip

looks like bar 3 flinches are needed otherwise you get owned by the ice moves

[quaint tartan]

uploading for the max investment column