not the good noodles
#Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)
sturdy steeple
lost juniper
@sturdy steeple Where are you using NC Bianca? I thought to repeat the Moltres solo but I'm interested to see where you plan using her
sturdy steeple
(basically) everything that can go to Moltres is going to Moltres
Even if I end up using a shitty eggmon with her cause I get mad at failing the solo for hours straight, still gonna be moltes
Moltres is still restrictive as ever, especially for me who's doing 2v1s only
Everything gotta go to it
lost juniper
I see. I did use a different grid compared to the twitter clear so it might be easier
sturdy steeple
Nice work I'll add it soon
heavy sinew
That fucking bird that I hate
sturdy steeple
So true
raven crane
(basically) everything that can go to Moltres is going to Moltres
'Tis the conclusion I came to as well.
Stupid ass bird.
karmic willow
(basically) everything that can go to Moltres is going to Moltres
Real talk tho
Would you do irida AND bp candice in one team?
And well, base ex candice and glacia can duo, though it does require a good deal of freeze luck
sturdy steeple
No you can use a flincher with irida
sturdy steeple
And well, base ex candice and glacia can duo, though it does require a good deal...
Nice but I'm not exing Candice rn
karmic willow
I remember back in the day running a whole
Lana and piers
You can tell i was not very smart 
It was back when moltress was first released
karmic willow
Moltres is still restrictive as ever, especially for me who's doing 2v1s only
The biggest issue is still the flinch timings
Like i remember
People running TWO flinches for a team
Blue Thorton Lyra
That was waaaaaay waaaaaay back
sharp lichen
I remember running three flinches on a team 💀
Gauge was awful and I never was able to do it
Was not the sharpest tool in the shed back then
worthy horizon
i already have one double flinch team planned with nc blue being a thing and it won't be the last i feel like
heavy sinew
Flincher with 1/5 irida or something else?
lost juniper
If Irida is 1/5 I think BP Candice is fine since you can't nuke
Like you're gonna need the extra weather
sturdy steeple
3v1s with 1 flincher is pretty shrimple
sturdy steeple
If Irida is 1/5 I think BP Candice is fine since you can't nuke
Correct, if irida is invested she can be used with a flincher instead
worthy horizon
just rolled this on an unpinned gear with a 2* yellow feather
heavy sinew
God
sturdy steeple
You could also always just use them both as double weather setters for a strong bar 2 nuker as well
heavy sinew
Rock too
sturdy steeple
Yes
chrome halo
2* feathers are op
worthy horizon
karmic willow
I will have
A table full of broken gears once i am done with the rolling and resetting
At minimum 9% attack dr
@sturdy steeple okay so
Aaron + Hilda
Or Aaron + Noland vs moltress?
I remember you doing Hilda
But noland does have that theme skill going for him (i don't know where to slot him lol)
worthy horizon
i was just doing attempts with aaron/noland
pretty decent though you ofc need good flinch luck
don't sync more than once with noland bc most damage is coming from fury cutter
the bad thing is that i don't have a good bug damage reduction skill gear bandanna anymore so i might just use the type gear bc noland dies fast
which is why i bothered upgrading gear to begin with
don't think gear mattered this attempt lol
chrome halo
I like this duo but then SConia lacks a partner for bulu duo 
heavy sinew
After a year of procrastinating I finally ordered a new phone
hoping this new one doesn't crash the game
(it will)
karmic willow
I like this duo but then SConia lacks a partner for bulu duo <:PrycePain:9713777...
wait what?
you duo sc sonia with NOLAND?
chrome halo
chrome halo
Noland
sturdy steeple
<@233008443479425024> okay so
Aaron + Hilda
Or Aaron + Noland vs moltress?
yeah im probably doing the bug duo but i dont know who to use with hilda rn
karmic willow
i mean
she is quite the tank
so
anni N maybe?
save cheren or whatevers for later
sturdy steeple
For what
lost juniper
Anni N shouldn't be used on Moltres
sturdy steeple
ok but with who
cause i was thinking the same but theres only 1 tlraihan to go around
oh you said shouldnt
lmao
karmic willow
Anni N shouldn't be used on Moltres
i was saying latias
lost juniper
Oh guess I didn't notice haha
karmic willow
like anni N obv latias
lost juniper
Yeah no way I'd use N for Moltres when he relies on debuffing
He just need to buff his sp. defense since dragon syncs
karmic willow
cause i was thinking the same but theres only 1 tlraihan to go around
tl raihan + gordie my beloved
even though i might regret it later on since gordie DOES handle bulu bar 3 quite well...
jk
when i get my hands on whitney and stuff
free bulu clears leggo
karmic willow
yea that CS banner is a scam; did a multi and got shafted
the moment I did a daily on it
and got hit with Jasmine Steelix
I knew that shit ain't for me
heavy sinew
I got dead on CS, and Darach on Elio
raven crane
10% 5* but: 8% are genpool units <:WEEZing:732044368554229892>
If it functioned like the Mix Scout it'd be great.
But alas.
pearl beacon
Hope for the 100 free pulls w pokefair 
worthy horizon
there's definitely a way
+2 crit is awkward and annoying though
sand blaster 9 brawn sync 5 syncs can do 26k on bar 2
so you sandstorm first bar, max move second bar, sandstorm bar 3
+6e can grab sharp entry 1
you can actually afford to run vigilance, ww3 or cs2 might make it too hard to get a sync fast enough for bar 3
dunno
i should have this done but i'm lazy or something
worthy horizon
quaggles said azelf registeel latias and entei are doable but super grindy
desc of his vid
bitter gate
Yeah, I hope his patience pays off
river cliff
there's definitely a way
I'd probably try this if I weren't already using Kabutops with SS Diantha. Tech Omastar seems like it'd be a lot less painful
worthy horizon
ye i likely woulda gone with that if i had ss diantha
stuck mantle
For entei or latias regi azelf he need like infinity amount off mprs
Since he do zero damage too them
Latias how he will debuff him bar 2 and 3?
B move 2 use he is buff him self non stop
median swan
there's definitely a way
would dc2 on kabutops help
so that you can forego brawn sync for sharp entry
thick dawn
quaggles said azelf registeel latias and entei are doable but super grindy
i guess I said registeel and entei were possible but I'd rather invest in a cheat engine first
my main focus are azelf and latias but it really just isn't fun lol
thick dawn
defense crush 2
thick dawn
will also get 4 speed debuffs
yeah its not a lot but it's something
i have gotten to bar 3 before
stuck mantle
You now he buff speed too
So at bar 3 half you have zero
Hope you get it but need crazy luck whit mprs
stuck mantle
Only true elio fan can do it😘
stuck mantle
Haha me no thanks🤣 my eilio is 1/5
So he would die at bar 1
Need alot invest in grid too
river cliff
there's definitely a way
What ls are you running? Not sure what your 2* deluxe cookie supply is like but sharp entry or pe2 could be worth humoring for more grid flexbility
worthy horizon
trying what skippingmud suggested
it's definitely possible to get through bar 2 second half with a sync + stone edge at the least
without needing brawn sync
river cliff
Would adding any sync tiles be significant?
worthy horizon
so rn i'm looking at
river cliff
If you dump extra energy in and have ppe on him this could give you some more damage
worthy horizon
having too much damage for bar 3 does become an issue bc you have to not cross the half bar
and if you try to run down the cd with kabutops alone you take too many hits
i do have a bunch of 2* deluxes and i did consider both ppe2 and sharp entry ls but neither are important enough to warrant rolling for
river cliff
Maybe grabbing the extra accelerock mp and dropping brawn sync could work?
worthy horizon
nvm you can run the sync under sun and kill with stone edge
get to keep vigilance on
median swan
vigi paulo dc2 kabutops?
worthy horizon
yep though vigi kabutops may end up more consistent anyway
only getting off 1 or 2 debuffs and idk how much they matter
pearl beacon
Same with elio
🤝
Pulled today, got 3 5* in the entire banner
Getting Elio w pity in two dailies
bitter gate
I got him on the tenth multi, lel
thick dawn
i got him just fine 
twin aurora
1st try was fine but… 2 syncs in a row not crit. Even got 2mp refreshes, with +6E it’s much easier but I don’t have orbs lol and 0 para procs. 3/5 ex
true tartan
ah nice, someone is attempting the Blue one haha
I still can redeem 4 training units
twin aurora
As much as I have time for doing that cuz program at work is on maintenance
bitter gate
this was half a joke lol I got him to 3/5 before hitting pity
and did you throw him a candy after 4/5, hue
thick dawn
of course
true tartan
hmmm... should I get Blue to 3/5 
didn't use any of my tickets... and this month has....
8 more events, which means 800 if I get 1M each...
that'd put me on, at least, 2100
worthy horizon
blue looked pretty underwhelming to me even for a dc unit
true tartan
yeah, with that I agree
I prefer Gladion, Wally, Hugh, Nemona, Blue and Marnie
in that order
the main benefit of Blue (for me).... is that I could make a triple Alakazam team
bitter gate
he's probably the weakest of the DC units but is more useful as a duo against a broader variety of LGs
because paralysis is paralysis
quaint tartan
Blue benefit is that we are really close to get is og champion team all together 
bitter gate
While he covers a lot of content, he mostly has the damage advantage relative to Wally only, who debuffs more things
quaint tartan
We just need him with Rhydon
true tartan
and I didn't pick any of the previous training units because... "I don't need them" lol
nor "want to do a run with them"
my biggest incentive with Blue is Alakazam hahaha
bitter gate
if you're an LG streaker you'd want as much variety as you can
true tartan
me
bitter gate
since I'm shit at DC in general I'm just gonna slow grind
true tartan
a LG streaker
true tartan
as LG goes... Gladion/Wally/Blue provide the best
Gladion for debuffs, Wally and Blue both paralyze, while Wally is a decent debuffer
just build accordingly to the stage
if there was only something that tells you which training units are better for LG aimiright
true tartan
wonder if we getting Blue + Alakazam right before his stage is available... that'd mean that we'll get Cheren or Bianca on September?
bitter gate
but outside of that not much else
they'll probably just keep adding them to add to the free sprint/field pool
true tartan
like, this reset is going to be Triple Dark Weakness Blue... which uses an Alakazam lol
errant plume
I like this duo but then SConia lacks a partner for bulu duo <:PrycePain:9713777...
Supp Grookey
worthy horizon
wonder if we getting Blue + Alakazam right before his stage is available... that...
def seems more coincidental than planned, we've already faced a bunch of rivals that can't be exchanged for yet
chrome halo
Supp Grookey
thanks for the suggestion
true tartan
yeah, but they were the introductory
errant plume
<:ShauntalNote:746601750987014215> thanks for the suggestion
It's really easy, Bulu just explode from Sonia's Syncs under GT while Grookey is alive thanks to his Potions 
chrome halo
i have a decent Grass skill gear set, will properly try the duo out
errant plume
Lemme turn on my computer to send you the clear
true tartan
Electric-weak Hugh (Unfezant)
Grass-weak Nemona (Lycanroc)
Dragon-weak Wally (Altaria)
Fairy-weak Marnie (Scrafty)
Rock-weak Gladion (Weavile)
Dark-weak Blue (Alakazam)
twin aurora
hmmm... should I get Blue to 3/5 <:RosaThink:815426654955503627>
1/5 is still useful, 3/5 adds you snarl9 at hit, smarty pants, i don’t remember, shocked freebie 4 and gradual healing TM on 2/5 or 3/5
true tartan
guess we can expect the new pairs to be one of the DC huh
twin aurora
Ah sry got it wrong
errant plume
i have a decent Grass skill gear set, will properly try the duo out
I forgot it was during LG14 so it was on my YT (timestamp set) https://youtu.be/wHq8WUrnYDw?t=16742
true tartan
Blue: Alakazam or Rhydon
Silver: Crobat or Gengar
Wally: Altaria (Gallade is the other option)
Barry: Staraptor or Floatzel (Roserade is the other option)
Cheren: Gigalith or Liepard... guess most likely Gigalith because of the Lodge?
Bianca: Chandelure or Mienshao
N: Archeops (Zoroark is the other option)
Hugh: Unfezant or Eelektross
Shauna: Goodra or Sylveon
Tierno: Talonflame (Crawdaunt is the other option)
Hau: Crabominable (A Raichu is the other option)
Gladion: Weavile or Crobat
Hop: Dubwool or Corviknight or Pincurchin
Bede: G Rapidash or Mawile
Marnie: Scrafty (Grimmsnarl was the other option)
Nemona: Lycanroc (Pawmot was the other option)
if the training units use a mon they are paired in the DC, thse should be the options 
true tartan
yup, that's why I put the () haha
quaint tartan
Oh not to get him
Nvm
I think we have to wait for next data to understand the pattern
Also, is dc ranked going to link an HSE to a LG? Bc we do not get one after lg ends 
twin aurora
Oh next data will be full of additions, like bp and something
true tartan
yep, Morgan should be there
worthy horizon
tierno's probably not getting a second crawdaunt so talonflame
true tartan
ah yeah
true tartan
there, let's see how it goes on september haha
chrome halo
i was going to ask where is Trevor until i realized that he still stucks in NPC jail
worthy horizon
also hop actually appears 3 times so pincurchin is an option
true tartan
is there anyone else that appears three times?
worthy horizon
nope
pearl beacon
Hop can't even reach genpool
worthy horizon
well, i think
chrome halo
is there anyone else that appears three times?
Barry
wait does Grass weak Barry use Floatzel or a fcking grass weak Empoleon???
worthy horizon
floatzel
chrome halo
phew
worthy horizon
thankfully
inner turret
Hop will probably get Dubwool, it's the only normal type of the bunch 
quaint tartan
Next data is gonna be the first time we get all spotlights into ticketed banners?👀
inner turret
Yes
true tartan
oh, someone did the T Blue solo
invested in extra energy
I was thinking on doing it without the smarty-pants
errant plume
I love T-Wave animation with Alakazam what the 
karmic willow
alright
real talk
bianca
without sabrina
is ss lusamine still a thing or is lusamine too good for that now?
tender horizon
Blue: **Alakazam** or Rhydon
Silver: Crobat or Gengar
Wally: **Altaria** (Gallad...
Oh shit a other Crobat or Gengar
karmic willow
and man
i have so many unfufilled EX's
kinda sad to see no special champion stadium
inner turret
>got two unyielding
The 2nd one isnt mandatory, and I believe with TM MPR on Larry you might not even need thr 1st
quaint tartan
It was just a matter of saving tickets 
sharp lichen
Blue seems fairly strong, best DC Pair maybe?
sharp lichen
Best might be gladion
bitter gate
More of the other way around, but for LG paralysis is paralysis
I'd say Wally is the best, actually
sharp lichen
Oh really
bitter gate
even the LG charts have him highest
amongst the others
the fields are noticeably worse than the sprints, with marnie having the shortest end of the stick
Blue is mostly very aggressive
sharp lichen
Yeah
river cliff
is ss lusamine still a thing or is lusamine too good for that now?
Lusamine + egg Espeon on Bulu is what I'm planning on
karmic willow
Lol some one got blue already😌
bro you have insane damage chalenge scores how can you not have him?
stuck mantle
bro you have insane damage chalenge scores how can you not have him?
Since i got others 1 copy befor
Ticket are realy shitty after 1m
1 each 50k
karmic willow
wow
stuck mantle
Cant get it even if try hard
stuck mantle
And wat a diffrent if tomorrow you and me get blue too🤣
I will be just close for 2/5 on gladion its all
Plus ranked dc help me farm alot ticket
And have jacq exr this dc is help too get them
bitter gate
i only have 3 units still, lawl
inner turret
Same, 4 tickets away from the next
quaint tartan
I’m only missing blue too but not getting him tomorrow lol
stuck mantle
Im not invest any candy on them🤣
When get 3/5 will sure for next lg all off them then use dc units
Now they lv 1 1/5 for now in box sits
sharp lichen
right now im 3/5 them one at a time
quality > quantity
only have DC Gladion at 3/5 rn though 😭 moving on to wally next probably
since wally will also be good for the ground/dragon high score event next month
sturdy steeple
Quantity is definitely better tho in this context 😭
bitter gate
im getting quantity first, I think it's better
sharp lichen
Which of these seasonals (besides Burghepi and NY Lisia) is best for LG?
sharp lichen
Quantity is definitely better tho in this context 😭
DC Gladion soloing tapu bulu though 🤷♂️
lost juniper
Gladion is better for Latias though
lost juniper
Yeah he debuffs (and solos her too with 5/5 ex +10e)
loud shell
NY Dawn and the supports are the big ones of the Seasonals
sharp lichen
dang 5/5
loud shell
Summer tate and Liza are pretty good at base too
lost juniper
1/5 is enough for duos
lost juniper
NY Dawn and the supports are the big ones of the Seasonals
NY Dawn needs 3/5
loud shell
NY Dawn needs 3/5
Not for duos
lost juniper
That where she gets what she needs to solo
sturdy steeple
Which of these seasonals (besides Burghepi and NY Lisia) is best for LG?
At 1/5?
sturdy steeple
Victor and sycamore are pretty good at 1/5
Obviously the best one here is pbea but she needs 3/5
sharp lichen
for sure
sturdy steeple
Roxanne is also good
stuck mantle
And we dont have field units in choise as well
sharp lichen
though i might prioritize holiday viola if shes coming
sturdy steeple
Tate as well
river cliff
How good is 1/5 holiday Whitney? I'm considering picking her up
loud shell
True 1/5 Roxanne and a basic support is a free clear for latias
sharp lichen
How good is 1/5 holiday Whitney? I'm considering picking her up
fairly gimmicky tbh
loud shell
She’s good for a leech tank but the sync is abysmal
lost juniper
I'm picking Whitney since I have most techs aside from like Fall Acerola
lost juniper
She's cute at least
river cliff
But Mimikyu
sharp lichen
a lot of the old seasonals need some love in an expansion
loud shell
Who ever gave her shadow sneak and shadow force was a devil
sturdy steeple
How good is 1/5 holiday Whitney? I'm considering picking her up
She's okay
sharp lichen
burghepi is top tier
loud shell
She needed play rough or a decent DPS that isn’t MPR praying
lost juniper
burghepi is top tier
I know, but 5/5 gives him nothing
lost juniper
Dailies and got lucky
loud shell
I know, but 5/5 gives him nothing
+10 extra energy
sharp lichen
ah
loud shell
lost juniper
+10 extra energy
What would I do with +10e? He gets everything without overcap
loud shell
Another master healer tile I guess
lost juniper
You want Vigilance on grid
loud shell
What ls do you use
lost juniper
That allows him to use something else
Depends on who. Status/Interference Immunity or Defense Crush
loud shell
Fair enough
sharp lichen
if you do a grid like this you could pick stalwart or unbending depending on the arena
lost juniper
You probably don't need the extra speed tile
tender horizon
Which of these seasonals (besides Burghepi and NY Lisia) is best for LG?
Fall caitlin or spring may if i cud choose
Spring may is good for rally too
lost juniper
is it finally time to get pal bea
You probably should get her
river cliff
I'm not sure if SS Hilbert can go much cheaper for a partner. I spent way too long barely losing with support Venomoth
river cliff
Though I think support venomoth could work with +10e
karmic willow
I'm not sure if SS Hilbert can go much cheaper for a partner. I spent way too lo...
you know you can also do TL Volkner and valeire
lmfao
karmic willow
I'm not sure if SS Hilbert can go much cheaper for a partner. I spent way too lo...
sup venomoth??? that's a first
river cliff
The only venomoth that has any use this gauntlet
Idk, there aren't a ton of cheap tanks that really work well with him. Wigglytuff would probably work but I'm not sure if I'd consider that cheaper than Valerie
river cliff
you know you can also do TL Volkner and valeire
It's an alternative for those without EXed Valerie if nothing else
worthy horizon
who are we partnering with alcremie then
sharp lichen
lodge skyla can duo with alcremie for tapu bulu
though
i used roark to duo with skyla for tapu bulu before 😅
worthy horizon
with latias in this rotation that would be a massive waste of unfortuitous
sharp lichen
Yeah
dawn plume
i did lodge skyla and lisia last time
sharp lichen
Maybe with a DC pair for Latias?
dawn plume
lisia might also want to go to latias though
worthy horizon
last time i tried to make alcremie work vs latias i needed to add valerie and alcremie didn't exist last rotation so we don't have other existing teams that i know of
lodge volkner can handle his own dmg esp since i have him ex'd
river cliff
I'll probably do my tried and true duo with my 1/5 variety Kris since it's great for capping her offenses
karmic willow
who are we partnering with alcremie then
which one?
oh right
MC
i was thinking dawn
karmic willow
lodge volkner can handle his own dmg esp since i have him ex'd
guaranteed earthquake
unless you one shot bar 3
or
nuke half of it
i don't think he lives
at all
river cliff
Hm that makes me wonder if something like Valerie + Petey could work instead. Heck, tech Raichu might even be good enough
quaint tartan
Tech butterfree still requires tm1 or ppe2 right?
Bc ppe1 does not make him 100% accurate with sleep powder
Was going through eggs to spurge some investments and noticed
river cliff
Yeah the options are either fix the accuracy with a ls and lose out on fast track or bring someone like Burgh who can lower evasion
quaint tartan
Or gamble 
river cliff
Or run support butterfree
worthy horizon
yea i feel like tech butterfree would probably end up going to bulu but support could get use vs latias
and support would be less of a headache to deal with for bulu too maybe
imagine you manage to get lucian working w/ supp butterfree
or some other attack debuffer that would ideally debuff something else not spa
maybe 1/5 or 2/5 dc wally
tech still better but getting to use support would be great
river cliff
Doing trios against moltres has historically been pretty good for sleepers too. Just need a bad weather setter and you're gold
quaint tartan
I’m sticking to as many clears I can stack within the 3 weeks bc I need coupons to ex the new dc units, that’s it
sturdy steeple
moltres is one of the stages where its definitely way better to do cheap trios over some duos
obviously the flinch+damage duos are the ideal duos to do but with worse flinchers and damage dealers, doing trios makes moltres much easier while still being cheap cause its fuckin moltres
ive got like 50 supports left over rn and moltres is stonewalling me because they are just impossible to use in duos
but in trios a lot of them would be amazing
karmic willow
moltres is one of the stages where its definitely way better to do cheap trios o...
Yup
karmic willow
ive got like 50 supports left over rn and moltres is stonewalling me because the...
The moltress pain
A weather swapper that cannot flinch almost guarantee the use of a sleep or flinch mon
Flinch duos are pain
Ngl i feel bad for you nao 😦
This season is anti you
With moltress
Overkilling is justified af
worthy horizon
there's a 2/5 mesprit clear so he's not too inflexible
sturdy steeple
marnie can be paried with someone worse
karmic willow
marnie can be paried with someone worse
B....but it's on moltress
I mean with exr
Definitely someone worse is viable
But that's waaay on the 18th
Or something i forget
Also with the gear i have rn
I will probably solo bulu with holiday erika?
karmic willow
marnie can be paried with someone worse
Any suggestions bae?
heavy sinew
ive got like 50 supports left over rn and moltres is stonewalling me because the...
Moltres moment
karmic willow
ive got like 50 supports left over rn and moltres is stonewalling me because the...
At minimum haste or something
My god
The debuffs
raven crane
But that's waaay on the 18th
20th.
When's this season end?
26th, that ain't too shabby, aight.
sturdy steeple
Any suggestions bae?
anyone with speed buffs or good gauge refreshing can, but im just gonna use bperika
karmic willow
anyone with speed buffs or good gauge refreshing can, but im just gonna use bper...
Oh yeah that works
I completely forgot it since last time
But then again
Bp erika
And lodge marnie vs Bulu
Hoooooooboyyyyyyyyyyyy
@median swan
Yeah no imma go with overkilling this time no way am I letting moltress live
sturdy steeple
I hate fishing for brutal swing misses!!
karmic willow
I hate fishing for brutal swing misses!!
Wait that on bulu?
What clear is it?
Should have seen me fishing for zen headbutt miss on c.hop vs bulu 😦 that clear so cringe at first
sturdy steeple
ness of the sad
karmic willow
Someone make a new gif of moltress
Cuz you know i'm grabbing a bucket of kfc after beating it over and over
karmic willow
ness of the sad
Ngl best bet is you firing off solos early on
Things like lyra c blue
I know you tend to save 'em for last but dayum
sturdy steeple
i do some at start, save some for milestones, then save a couple for last
karmic willow
Wish me luck because I might replicate that Blue solo (or not fuck it adding sopholes)
Bp Sopholes
Flameproof is pog
raven crane
Whaddya y'all expect your streaks to roughly be?
sturdy steeple
210ish hopefully
karmic willow
I got new pairs but none of them solve Moltress
Greta is nice
No avery after one multi has removed all my interest
Because selene and nemona leggo
lost juniper
Klara also can do 1/5 Bulu
pearl beacon
Whaddya y'all expect your streaks to roughly be?
Quick 0-150 w comfortable runs
All the new content is taking more time than expected
raven crane
I wish.
pearl beacon
Imagine using omni candied
karmic willow
pearl beacon
I still have the prestige one
raven crane
Would much like that myself.
sturdy steeple
The dena worker bonus
you dont just get a bajillion free mats when becoming a partner
karmic willow
I know but
raven crane
Or do you?
raven crane
raven crane
But no these candies are the result of being a stingy bastard after everything in March gave me 'le middle finger.
The duality is crazy on those reactions. 
lost juniper
I have the opposite problem of using too much of my candies
I need to save them now
karmic willow
I have the opposite problem of using too much of my candies
Same
Can't save for shiet
rotund rain
Meanwhile I have a good amount candies because I tend to hoard stuff quite often 🙃
worthy horizon
3/5 dana +2e
slow and awkward but still works
ft2 dana mg2 brycen
hardly worth syncing with brycen until the end
raven crane
I have some and idk who to use them on
I have a few plans for mine.
3/5 Iono when I get her from the Fair Scouts, 3/5 Sygna Suit Nemo, and if I get Greta or Elio I'll give them candies.
worthy horizon
only need 1 spdef mpr 1 haze mpr at the start, ap boosts to give brycen a bit of speed
haze at start, a few moves into bar 2, and start of bar 3
karmic willow
3/5 dana +2e
HUH?
wow
i just lost
ONE HUNDRED cookies
trying to get flying guard
worthy horizon
too bad autoing moltres is like the worst thing
you can still farm but it's quite the obstacle when ai is not good at keeping sun down
unless anni steven
plus ai can't handle moltres in sun for long either
worthy horizon
if ai lysandre could just spam oblivion wing instead of dark pulse
raven crane
unless anni steven
I got the goat!
worthy horizon
w/ him you want at least one potion mpr spammer and something to make sure the sides keep up high defense boosts
naomi's team had two but i don't have p bea
so rn i have fall phoebe and lana for group fire guard
and i run fire guard ls on her
karmic willow
Bad luck early game
Second run
Misplayed the heal but
I am quite certain that
This is a thing for me
river cliff
I'm not looking forward to planning the partners for all my 1/5 dc pairs
bitter gate
mfw over the past few months all the important dates of PM start when I have irl commitments
oh well
worthy horizon
3/5 +0e with support primeape
heavy sinew
That doesn't look too bad
def not possible with 1/5 Gladion tho
There's only so many heals
worthy horizon
ye
heavy sinew
But hey, free debuffer is good
worthy horizon
the 1/5 dc units will need some fairly self-sufficient units to pair with
heavy sinew
yeah I'm kinda worried about that
I'ma get home and start planning my solos
I can probably get 30
bitter gate
I'm trying to think what the cheapest Ghetsis duo for latias is
Has an eggmon duo done it already
worthy horizon
current clears are with cheryl or mesprit
bitter gate
yeah that feels a bit too expensive
my mesprit is also 3/5 20/20
so there's definitely cheaper avenues
I was wondering if Cheren could make it work
Granted my Ghetsis is +4E
which allows me Cold Snap on top of his other stuff
so you can stunfish
karmic willow
I was wondering if Cheren could make it work <:RosaThink:815426654955503627>
0 speed
karmic willow
Ft on both and pray for freeze on bar 3
Because eq will cook both ghetsis and cheren
bitter gate
I really don't think it's that hard, even gauge wise
worthy horizon
i was planning on trying cheren with anni n but i haven't gotten around to that yet
karmic willow
i was planning on trying cheren with anni n but i haven't gotten around to that ...
Can you test it out now?
vital ibex
bitter gate
Yeah uhh
this is way too easy
lol
ghetsis is pretty busted on his own so i think you can even throw marlon in there
and get away with it
karmic willow
working on it
If your syncs are good enough
Like
It's kinda easy?
Too easy
heavy sinew
I'm thinking of putting him as a Moltres sand support
karmic willow
Syncs only dealt like
heavy sinew
probably a bit too farfetched
bitter gate
I think that might be better, but it depends on what your sand setter is
maybe a non fully invested raihan, idk
heavy sinew
I have him 1/5 so no can do
bitter gate
I wonder if an uninvested Dana can do it
cheren probably shouldn't do the ghetsis duo
Eggmon Ghetsis? hmm
heavy sinew
damn looking back i didnt get a lot of new units between this LG and last LG
unlucky
chrome halo
Same, that includes the new DC units
sturdy steeple
worthy horizon
yea support fuecoco can get him to bar 3 but then we're still like 6 moves off the next sync before we die
would be able to nuke the bar tho
bright brook
DC Unit solos:
- Gladion (4)
- Wally, Hugh (3)
- Nemona (2)
- Marnie, Blue (1)
heavy sinew
like i only got:
-Klara
-3 DC Units
-Summer marnie
-SC steven
-and poppy
karmic willow
yea support fuecoco can get him to bar 3 but then we're still like 6 moves off t...
Isn't stall like
Significantly better?
With bite flinch of course
worthy horizon
yeah more sustain or turn denial would be better
chrome halo
like i only got:
-Klara
-3 DC Units
-Summer marnie
-SC steven
-and poppy
Your list is larger than mine 
river cliff
I only have 4 dc pairs since last time
chrome halo
4? I only have 3 
I can get 3 new pairs for this LG rotation at least:
Arven (3/5 minimum)
Pal Victor (likely sitting at 1/5)
Lodge Iono
river cliff
Hm picking up victor wouldn't be a bad idea...
river cliff
I'm not sure if any of the techs or strikers really appeal to me from the selects
All the "seasonals" I like are sc pairs
pearl beacon
Tech seasonals is my ruin
karmic willow
me trying to do the Bellelba Latias* solo during this LG
WHAT
karmic willow
acerola solo on moltres
with enough flinches and a dream, you too can solo moltress with acerola
i'd just add a Naomi and call it a day
quick, convenient and much, much less painful
not like there are a lot of options to pair naomi with
sturdy steeple
i remember using her as a double debuffer against latias (but needed a great support obviously)
karmic willow
yeah i know it's possible but
it just feels wrong at this point
you know
Flincher... goood defense
Moltress
now the real question is
can belleba carry mewtwo to victory?
or something idk
worthy horizon
finding it more difficult to get as much distance with support porygon or starmie
compared to support fuecoco
true tartan
I remember that someone did all LA duos with Bellelba + Brycen-Man
so who knows, she can carry someone vs Moltres, or just use her for Latias
river cliff
Looking at the ss diantha moltres solo, I'd bet that at 3/5 exr she could pretty easily duo with dc Nemona if Kabutops wanted to be used else where
Probably even without exr
true tartan
if you give her some flinches, maybe?
karmic willow
if you give her some flinches, maybe?
accelrock flinches at 3/5
true tartan
but yeah, changing the weater bar 1 would ease it a lot
true tartan
yeah, but how much can the rest burst down once you run out of flinches haha
river cliff
Still, the increased damage output alone + not having to set up rock zone on turn 1 would make things a ton easier. Not to mention the faster syncs. 1/5 would probably be enough
Since the only thing 3/5 diantha is missing (other than damage output) is initial propulsion
Alternatively she could probably allow nc silver to clear at lower investment
worthy horizon
best i've been able to manage
support pory
support starmie is worse here bc energy ball weak
karmic willow
man
1% outrage
NOT COOL
@worthy horizon first sync goes to flygon
Second sync goes to latias
Flygon will always almost live
you wanna hit the second sync
on latias
will reach half bar
you get one free turn of telekinesis
flygon will die to 2 blue flares
allowing you to get more turns
honestly just give him +4 for the extra accuracy
always making sure
latias gets it
karmic willow
allowing you to get more turns
more turns means you can reliably debuff and nuke bar 2 clean
worthy horizon
only need +2 to grab piercing gaze
worthy horizon
at +0 i drop one of the sync nodes and it doesn't seem to be overly important
karmic willow
no you do need it
making sure flygon gets to the "low enough" range
the main question is mainly
how to keep eggmon alive
long enough
and yeah
nuke bar 2 clean
heavy sinew
Porygon?
karmic willow
i think mine lived til stored power
heavy sinew
Interesting
karmic willow
Why does solgaleo have to be weak to ground 😦
Like tbh i wanna do solgaleo + cheren
worthy horizon
i was definitely syncing flygon -> latias but the bigger question is when and how much do you noble roar
karmic willow
show gear too
Uploading video on youtube
Or wait for 360p
@worthy horizon i missed a sync crit bar 2. That was NOT supposed to happen
But whatever works i suppose
There
5* egg IS needed
dawn plume
i did this a while ago but figured i'd post it back here again since she's finally back in rotation, +10e ss n latias solo strategy for anyone who wants it. it's pretty easy/scripted with the extra energy but the strategy is kinda specific https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HTySgzX_6s
worthy horizon
don't think i'm willing to dump powerups into eggmons this time so i'll have to find something else
but ty
i still have 9 regular units stuck at 4* and jessie
quaint tartan
moltres is one of the stages where its definitely way better to do cheap trios o...
I’ve always wanted to ask you with genuine curiosity if you have ever thought about doing a full lg without sticking to solo/duos but opening up to cheap trios to unleash the full full power of your roster 
rocky oasis
weirdly enough i actually came up w/ smth like the allister solo the last time bulu was around
except rng refused to cooperate so i just tossed in a hapu meat shield
bitter gate
Oh yeah, I was testing Anabel + egg primeape versus Moltres before I got busy
I was getting somewhere
I won't repeat the mistake of throwing Brendan with her at least
river cliff
I feel like egg Sylveon + Diantha could work on Latias but I think I'm going to need to roll mind games
bitter gate
Eggmon + Anabel
is impossible
due to the amount of shit
you have to go through
egg on my face if some japanese tryhard gets in
But for now this is my best duo against it
I tried Bruno but it was to reliant on MPR, and the gauge really sucked
I think it's less wasteful than Brendan, and Siebold doesn't have any good matchups here so
@thick dawn are you awake
thick dawn
sup
thick dawn
yeah sure
bitter gate
go to the grid, get the Prep/Posture SMUN 9 tile
and see if it activates
if you don't charge it
in circle
thick dawn
sure
bitter gate
JP wording suggests if it's not a two turn move it shouldn't work
but never can be too sure
bitter gate
yeah she has no durability outside of RFA
and she just pops
the poor girl
the alola duo is not a very LG based duo
Arven and nemona are probably better at it
Nemona definitely does Bulu/Latios/Latias comfortably
possibly Regi and steel also
thick dawn
the usum kids are terrible, terrible soloists, and thats ok they shine with partners
bitter gate
still waiting for the remaining Elio solos but who knows
Meanwhile Arven with his casual 13 solos
for the 5/5 EXR simps
lol
good chance he does quite a lot
thick dawn
still waiting for the remaining Elio solos but who knows
don't get too keen on this lol
need the game to throw in another powerup for units or smth
as in something like skill gear or extra energy introduction
not ashamed to say I don't have fun with alt elio solos and don't mind to not be the one to do them lol
worthy horizon
i'm very certain that not everything that can be done, will be done
very very few people have the patience to put up with the grindiest stuff
nothing i'd ever hold my breath over
tender horizon
Yalls does Liza Oak duo Latias or i rmb wronh
bitter gate
pretty sure it does
worthy horizon
it do
half bone
How to clear the moltres
I tried using torandous ex, virizon ex, and swanna
Man
It’s just that stupid burn
chrome halo
You don't have any weather changer
chrome halo
You have to replace sun to avoid that
Again, you should check the beginner friendly clear in #1009562367803261078 pins to get the idea of countering the bird
rocky oasis
It’s because of the burn
moltres bar 2 burn passive is shut off by other weathers
worthy horizon
had a 5* support chansey, potions/+2 spa and spe/stalwart/healthy healing
tender horizon
It’s just that stupid burn
Give flameproof lucky skill then
I think they either dont know the gimmick or theyre intentionally building a weatherless team
tender horizon
had a 5* support chansey, potions/+2 spa and spe/stalwart/healthy healing
Anni N is good against Moltres though by abusing sun
worthy horizon
does seem like quite a unintuitive pick but if it works it works
might look into it tomorrow
no sun passives or flameproof and no noble roars under sun
piercing blows to abuse sun and bypass fire guard must be crucial tho
karmic willow
@sturdy steeple i bet you can cook up something right? Against moltress i mean
Dps N omg
You have pep rally
So speed is covered
@worthy horizon
Most likely a 2 bar flincher
So i am callinng
Alakazam
heavy sinew
Anni N is good against Moltres though by abusing sun
I remember using him when the bird first debuted and he was something. Not a bad pick but definitely not one to consider this time
karmic willow
For some
It is
Like @sturdy steeple cuz you know moltress be hitting her like a brick wall
tender horizon
Did we have Eggmon Golduck and Eggmon Hypno???
I dont have them but pomatools shows they exist so im going crasy
sturdy steeple
I’ve always wanted to ask you with genuine curiosity if you have ever thought ab...
I have definitely thought about it but mmmm gotta commit to my bit
sturdy steeple
Like <@233008443479425024> cuz you know moltress be hitting her like a brick wal...
Strapped for weather setters
tender horizon
Anyone has NC red team for Moltres
Thinking of just pairing him with
Tech Lapras
lost juniper
Red is pretty awkward to use on Moltres
Especially since it has Flare Blitz
I'm just gonna use Red on Latias with an eggmon
karmic willow
Tech Lapras
No
As someone who tried it before good gear rolls
I highly recommend you do NOT
First hail on sync will never be able to let you stall for long enough to bust through half bar 2.
Like
It's so weird
If you do not invest sync then you will not be able to bust through half bar 2 in time
Solution is busting through first half bar 2 immediately, but then you will have to commit to mg2, and that is unreliable af
Red is strictly latias material
karmic willow
I have definitely thought about it but mmmm gotta commit to my bit
My niche 2v1 queen leggo
karmic willow
This is the best time to pass me on the leaderboards
If you cheer me on i will~
@tender horizon but if it makes you feel any better, imma do it for you
Because i also want to kick this bird's ass
heavy sinew
This is the best time to pass me on the leaderboards
my time has come (I will never sniff top 50)
tender horizon
I highly recommend you do NOT
Ok oof
karmic willow
@tender horizon still imma try
tender horizon
Did we have Eggmon Golduck and Eggmon Hypno???
Anyome pls answer this
river cliff
I dont have them but pomatools shows they exist so im going crasy
A few months ago their kits and everything showed up in a datamine... but we never got an egg event for them
Very sad
karmic willow
*Fails all of them anyway.*
Shut up
@tender horizon BARELY
Still got double burned afterwards FOR SOME REASON
Yeah no way you win here i'm sorry
But like
Someone check on with me
Does heat wave burn guaranteed
Even when weather changed?
Because if so then this clear is doomed
Or i just got the shittiest luck
One in a hundred for DOUBLE burn
karmic willow
FUCK
karmic willow
One in a hundred for DOUBLE burn
This is bs
@tender horizon 4/5 +8E EXR minimal because you need full nuke nodes to punch through half bar 2
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/3/14400?s=5&l=150&r=5&p=20&a=13010602&g=AQIDBAUGCQwPEBEUJSYpLC4v
Always dusk until dawn
karmic willow
I blame that double burn on you
raven crane
Hu Tao do be Pyro, so there might be some validity there.
karmic willow
Hu Tao do be Pyro, so there might be some validity there.
Who Town
heavy sinew
<@855739132541534218> 4/5 +8E EXR minimal because you need full nuke nodes to pu...
The Lapras freeze at the end sent me
raven crane
Burn him again, Moltres.
karmic willow
doesn't need it tbh
also
i would like to
meet the person who programmed moltress to instantly flare blitz after freeze
because my god it's ROUGh
oh yeah
@sturdy steeple best partner for bp candice this time?
heavy sinew
I'm doing 1/5 irida