Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

[karmic willow]

she clears ez

[chrome halo]

Very cool clear can you submit this run pls? I'm not with my desktop rn

[stuck mantle]

Lol who care🤣 win as a win:)

[modest oar]

I'll do it later but sure

[chrome halo]

Thank you

[karmic willow]

ugh

i need

something for piers and N

where are we sending him to this time?

terrakion is the most risky one out of the bunch

maybe him

[upper lance]

1/5 6Ex Belleba + Gears + 2E on Tate

[karmic willow]

huh

belleba...

holy shit it's actually good with tate

that +1 crit on tate

HOLDUP

[upper lance]

Evil Sabrina

Because I don’t know how to write Bellelba

[karmic willow]

i'm struggling to find a partner for bellaba vs terrakion and

you might have just given me the answer

then again

terrain might run out before tate can do anything

urghhh

and well, double flinch feels like a waste so maybe not

[upper lance]

Both of them are 40% (20% if Evil Sabrina isn’t 3/5) rate of flinch

[karmic willow]

yeah but

problem is

I need the dps

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/3100/33800?s=5&l=140&r=3&p=0&a=17010201&g=AAECAwQFDA8XGh8iKCstLi8

[chrome halo]

[karmic willow]

Even a basic grid like this

for tate to actually start nuking

already costs like

-8

and who in their right mind would invest in him like this 😦

[upper lance]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/3100/33800?s=5&l=140&r=3&p=0&a=18040502&g=AAECAwQFBgkMDRARFBcaKCos

@karmic willow the grid I’ve used

[karmic willow]

i need a partner for belleba...

i just realized that

i have a lot of flinchers left

i'll need people to test this out for me but

Is Irida BP Candice doable this time on Terrakion?

@chrome halo @modest oar any cheap duos with Shauntal?

i'm committing to holiday Jasmine

[chrome halo]

Use the repository doc

[karmic willow]

it doesn't have enough

[chrome halo]

Then idk

[karmic willow]

and lookie there

the only team that

actually popped up was

holiday jasmine

XDDDD

[chrome halo]

I think i have heard about BP Morty Shauntal duo sometime ago

[karmic willow]

yeah...

but

i would rather do

BP Morty and

Elesa

i actually made that clear last time

how many tanks can trap / confusion while healing sides?

[modest oar]

On who

[karmic willow]

Obviously

Uxie

Because where else in this gauntlet

[modest oar]

SC Lillie maybe

[karmic willow]

I am hesitating on that so much

Like

Flinch eventually becomes uselss

[modest oar]

Lillie can paralyse though

And she isn't that useful on the other two

[karmic willow]

Not really?

I mean

She can flinch

And

If you are gambling enough

Ghost zone

Also yeah she can paralyze with static cling

[modest oar]

Then Holiday Jasmine can replace her

[karmic willow]

My cheapest pick would be on something like

Actually never mind

[karmic willow]

Really no other choice at this rate

And well

Love me an easy clear

[karmic willow]

Remind me again

Does defog remove crit shield?

[river cliff]

Yes

[karmic willow]

great

[river cliff]

I wonder how bad SS Lusamine + Espeon would be on Terrakion

[chrome halo]

very dodge reliant

[river cliff]

I'd imagine you'd at least be able to blitz the fight pretty quickly

[pearl beacon]

Looks pain but maybe LussaR can take that

[upper lance]

1/5 Brycen-Man

[sturdy steeple]

That's nice

[upper lance]

I should record these duo in case

[chrome halo]

please do

[rigid hill]

OK so ANY WTZ or similar field effect (rock, steel field, etc) that isn't specific to my side lowers Terrakion passive right?

So for instance Accelgor being bug zone is best used for Terrakion, not the trap on Uxie?

[chrome halo]

the general idea is saving WTZ for Terrakion

but this time all 3 are road blockers

unlike most other rotations which only had one

[shy sinew]

oh my (cries in no EX Marley)

[karmic willow]

100% dodge reliant

[rigid hill]

I'll assume that my WTZ options are still less abundant than the status/interference ones

[pearl beacon]

Yep

[chrome halo]

You should list all your options first then begin planning

[pearl beacon]

Imo yes
Plus take in consideration you can abus azelf surehit/surecrit ifnyou want

[shy sinew]

For me my interference users came out to a much lower count when I was pulling them all out last night, but I also put things like SS Wally in the WTZ column at first and will probably move him over

I also haven’t counted confusion yet because that probably has to be reapplied which I’m not a big fan of

[pearl beacon]

I think a good example is Gordie
He's solid for both stages and he makes a good eggmon duo on uxie
But he can also get rid of Terrakion bar2 n3 with just one field

I'll probably save him for terra

[dense orbit]

How do I beat terrakion again?

I don't have enough psychic terrain units...

[pearl beacon]

Any WTZ that affect him, included damaging fields
Required on Bar2 n 3 only

[shy sinew]

can also sleep/flinch/freeze lock

[heavy sinew]

damaging fields?

[shy sinew]

if df applies there then I know where my Akari and Leon are going…

[chrome halo]

You also want to debuff his offensive stats for more comfortable clear, but this gimmick can be neglected with sleep lock and fast clearing teams

Dmg Fields work

[heavy sinew]

no way lmao

[pearl beacon]

Ye, just like thorton UB
When affected by a field effect

[dense orbit]

Actually, does terrakion get unflappable?

[pearl beacon]

No

[dense orbit]

Perfect

I'll flinch lock it

All I want is 10 wins total for the rewards.

[heavy sinew]

no unflappable, no wide awake

no antifreeze

[pearl beacon]

You van check chains here eventually
#1012311116778586182 message

[tender horizon]

Hes cooking

[bitter gate]

Shauntal can also do it

Just that it requires

A lot of precision

+ex both

I was gonna showcase it but I'm busy, but I did it before

[upper lance]

Shauntal have the luck to be super effective against Uxie so i prefer to keep for another duo

[bitter gate]

Yeah but idt theres a cheaper option

The Hjasmine duo is

A massive waste

[upper lance]

I think i found the winner for the Bellelba duo

[pearl beacon]

Glad we got Terrakion so Bertha+Nidoking can be avoided

[heavy sinew]

Flinch hax

[heavy sinew]

On what

[tender horizon]

Explain pls

[pearl beacon]

Bertha + Supp Nidoking on uxie

Was boring as hell

[upper lance]

Not even that. Just the Monke hit really hard

[pearl beacon]

Same comp can be used on terrakion probably but at least you don't have to wory abt poison/trap

[upper lance]

Conclusion for 1/5 EX Bellelba Duo :
Lodge Gloria : Hit really hard and even do some good dmg under the crit shield.
Tate : Pretty solid and can avoid the crit shield.
Iris : To fragile sadly to unless you hit exactly when Regi will Iron Wall
Riley : Overkill
Guzma : Too Wastefull.

[heavy sinew]

I have 1/5 EXr bellelba

idk if she's better on terra cause of field

[pearl beacon]

Keeping TL Goria for the sleep chain
What are other good option to put a good use with that psy terrain?

[upper lance]

Does the Crit Shield on yourself cancel the skill of Terrakion about Field ?

[kind imp]

I don't think so

[upper lance]

I think Hala is also quiet Wastefull with Bellelba too

Kris maybe ?

[pearl beacon]

No
Only fields effect affecting him

[upper lance]

Yeah that's what i was thinking about

[river cliff]

I'd imagine the best pair for tech Leafeon to duo with would be Brendan?

[dawn plume]

who is tanking

[river cliff]

Leafeon. Pray for bullet seed flinches

[dawn plume]

i don't think you'll find much success with that

[heavy sinew]

Die moment

[river cliff]

I'm not sure I have anyone else it'd make sense to use Leafeon with. I suppose I could settle for a trio

[dawn plume]

you will 100% need a tank

terrakion hits way too hard

[river cliff]

Or a better flincher

[dawn plume]

especially if you aren't debuffing it

[chrome halo]

Does Grass even have a good flincher outside of SS Lyra

[upper lance]

Super mega Wastefull (Hala have take like 30% of his life point during all the battle )

I don’t know ?

[kind imp]

Sprigatito

[chrome halo]

Grimsley is super trash i would keep the second clear

[upper lance]

SS Grim have some good dmg

And can only flinch on his base form

[chrome halo]

If only the mega replaced X Attack with Liquidation

[upper lance]

Sadly Roark doesn't have any way to max his crit alone.

But he should be a good partner to reduce the difficulty of 3/5 Bellelba solo.

[river cliff]

The decision of a lifetime: tech or support Sprigatito?

[pearl beacon]

Support for field

[sturdy steeple]

Depends

[pearl beacon]

Bruteforce flinchchain?

[sturdy steeple]

likely gonna be a good number of those this time

[pearl beacon]

Ye

[modest oar]

Terrakion is fast though. Courtney + Sprigatito might not cut it now

[bitter gate]

I was thinking if Tina Blaine vs Terrakion

Is harsh

[pearl beacon]

Ground weak oofsies

Btw I was quickly looking at settlers, veterans and whales should have abt 30-40 weather settlers
Plus all Terrain, Zone n Damaging Fields
Considering also PB units and sleepchains Terrakion should not be a big problem
The hard part is making egg settlers last enough to pop wtz on bar2-3

[errant plume]

10 minutes to get the run

[pearl beacon]

Noiiice, R right?

[heavy sinew]

Hope it's not R

[errant plume]

I only dodged Stone Edge in Bar 1

Ofc it's R

[heavy sinew]

rip

discombobulate moment

[sturdy steeple]

guess its time to cake her

[chrome halo]

Not me with 6 sup cake candidates

[sturdy steeple]

about to be the 4th psychic type ive given a support cake to

[chrome halo]

Btw nao are you going to cake SS Lana

Her getting sprint is weird

[sturdy steeple]

yeah i hate that they gave her sprint but its sslana so shes perfect anyways

[raven crane]

https://tenor.com/view/pretty-fuckin'-mid-matty-matheson-cookin-somethin-crunchy-nachos-that-fk-it's-just-average-gif-15315175414530843960

[sturdy steeple]

definitely not an urgent cake tho

[raven crane]

Classic Elesa got Sprint, someone else had to get shafted also!

[heavy sinew]

I have 0 cakes

2 more days until I can get more

[river cliff]

I can get behind that

[karmic willow]

B O N K

[karmic willow]

DAMNNNNNNNNN

i'm still thinking of

belleba and mewtwo

mewtwo is deathly squishy

so it helps

belleba and mewtwo vs terrak

[chrome halo]

No spatk buffs

[river cliff]

Grand Entry 2 LS

[karmic willow]

yeah

if i can get Grand Entry 2

that'd be great

or

[river cliff]

I believe

[karmic willow]

Take Hit: Team Sp.Atk 9

[chrome halo]

I forgot that is a thing

And that too

[karmic willow]

i suppose

with her gigantic bulk

belleba can take a few hits

allowing mewtwo to completely rush bar 2 and 3 within the zone time

[tender horizon]

i didnt anticipate team planning to be so difficult until i got to this point with my Regirock teams

[karmic willow]

what the fuck

it looks

WILD af

[tender horizon]

Bunch of leftovers

[karmic willow]

bugsy sleep duo

bp sopholes duo with sonia vs uxie

olivia sleep duo

pryce freeze hax on terrak

roark sleep duo

brawly duo gordie vs uxie

[tender horizon]

ye most of these are sleep duos

[tender horizon]

Oo

brawly duo gordie sound interesting

[river cliff]

I'm still not sure whether I want event Victor on Terrakion or Uxie

[rigid hill]

Question - what sync pairs have Piercing Blows type passive named something else, or an attack only that bypasses with same mechanic? Attack only I can think of articuno, red pikachu, solgaleo, lunala. Am I missing any for that or weird passive name?

[blazing linden]

Piercing Blows

Grants all of the following effects when the user is attacking: Ignores the target's passive skills that would reduce the damage of attacks. Ignores the target's passive skills that would protect the target against a critical hit. Ignores the target's Enduring effect.

Sync Pairs with Passive:

N (Anniversary 2021) & Reshiram
Gloria (Alt. 2) & Cinderace
N & Zekrom
Sygna Suit Piers & Toxtricity
Victor & Rillaboom
Sygna Suit N & Kyurem
Petrel & Weezing
Leon (Alt.) & Dragapult

[river cliff]

NC Silver's B move

[rigid hill]

There are probably alot of b moves that bypass haha

[raven crane]

Quite a few.

[river cliff]

Isn't it just Silver and the Reds?

[vital ibex]

champ marnie b move too

[rigid hill]

We know solgaleo, lunala

I may be making a mistake putting them all to terrakion but meh

Example Lunala being ghost probably best to use against Uxie

[chrome halo]

#bot-zone message

Here is the list of moves with PB effect

[scenic bolt]

I love lusamine tank

She’s so large

[chrome halo]

G-Max Fireball and Solo Drum also bypass all passives

[heavy sinew]

tbf gloria has PB so

fireball is kinda redundant

emphasis on kinda

[raven crane]

Don’t most Max Moves bypass gimmicks? Or am I crazy?

[tender horizon]

ye no its hard to search tht

[raven crane]

Bar crits immunity.

[tender horizon]

u can narrow it down to all the Neo champions

then check their B moves

NC marnie NC hop shud be

[chrome halo]

Majority only. Some like Robust Physique blocks crit from max moves

[raven crane]

Yar.

[heavy sinew]

L torn

[raven crane]

Torn my baby boy.

[chrome halo]

Nah just copy their desc

Porybot is amazing

[raven crane]

Whoever developed it, have my hand in marriage.

Pahahaha.

[tender horizon]

mmm

then show me the results

Oh

[rigid hill]

@chrome halo thanks, I was still missing galar zapdos. Though his zone will wreck terrakion.anyway

[tender horizon]

saw it

[rigid hill]

I won't try to find max moves that bypass. 1 time use isn't really enough to matter anyway for team building

[raven crane]

Share me your doc Charizard fella.

[chrome halo]

It doesnt matter for this rotation

The only time it matters is on Torn

And ig Cresselia's Terra Firma?

[raven crane]

“Can you handle this?!”
Cresselia: Well.. Yes actually.

Pahaha.

I’m getting called out.

[karmic willow]

@sturdy steeple idk why but i feel that finding a good partner for silver will be particularly hard

[dawn plume]

cobalion LA is steel also lol

[wide citrus]

lmfao

[raven crane]

Son of a..

[blazing linden]

Multiple results found

‎

Sunsteel Strike
Moongeist Beam
G-Max Fireball
G-Max Rapid Flow
G-Max Drum Solo
Origin Volt Tackle
Roaring Thunderous Kick
Massive Rock Slide
Frozen Wings Ice Beam
Fierce Fiery Wrath

[sturdy steeple]

its true youre probably just gonna need a flincher

[sturdy steeple]

heheheh

[kind imp]

the piercing blows moves

[dawn plume]

i'm sure morgan and virizion will be grass

surely

that or she gets latias and is dragon lol

[raven crane]

Yeah that idea kinda went down the shitter real quick didn’t it…

Kinda sucks.

[dawn plume]

dont see why it cant still happen

dupes are plentiful

[raven crane]

It could.

[dawn plume]

especially with bp pairs

[river cliff]

Or they throw us a curveball and give her Terrakion

[raven crane]

But it would be a first for Master BPs.

I think.

[sturdy steeple]

fighitng and rock teamwork are both taken

[raven crane]

Aye…

[river cliff]

Hence the curveball

[raven crane]

Morgan just gets a regular ass Pokémon. Pahahaha.

I don’t know her aces.

[chrome halo]

Evil

[dawn plume]

oh boy swalot

[raven crane]

SAWSBUCK!

MY BABY!

[karmic willow]

huh

it would seem that

NOBODY has redone the regirock solo on Leaf

oh wait nvm

sceptilefan did it

[chrome halo]

Who tf designed these moveset

[heavy sinew]

That one's easy I think

Just a lot of potions

[pearl beacon]

[karmic willow]

see that's the problem

i hate clears like that

[raven crane]

Aye! I still root for her!

[chrome halo]

Yeah Regirock just Body Slam Leaf the she dies

[kind imp]

body slam is registeel

[chrome halo]

Rock Slide then

[karmic willow]

H A M M E R A R M

[sturdy steeple]

leaf regirock solo is stupid easy

[karmic willow]

yeah

maybe i'll do that solo

[kind imp]

i'll save for later

in case i lack uxie clears

[chrome halo]

Okay but consider discovering for Leaf solo on Terra

Be the first who does it

[karmic willow]

close combat

focus blast

sacred sword

[chrome halo]

Just do it

[karmic willow]

no

[chrome halo]

[karmic willow]

i don't wanna lose my sanity yet thank you

[kind imp]

touche

[raven crane]

Y’all when she gets +2 evasion on entry:

[chrome halo]

[karmic willow]

Okay but

how about

Aaron

[raven crane]

Papa.

[karmic willow]

who pairs with him even

because i'm sure as hell not doing that solo

[pearl beacon]

If we keep getting new units each LG and no extra time to clear there's a time inconvenience at some point

[karmic willow]

yup

[pearl beacon]

Ppl breaking 300 this round is insane

[karmic willow]

who knows

with EVERYTHING maxed out

maybe

we will get +300 this time

though

I would very much doubt it

[raven crane]

Fucking Hell y’all are nuts. Pahahaha.

[kind imp]

shouldn't be that bad, it's another bug type solo that wasn't from this year

[rigid hill]

@raven crane so I use my work computer for my excel sheet, but that has a firewall so I can't use it on Google docs

[heavy sinew]

I thought uxie or terra will be a bottleneck cause wtz is not as prevalent as status

[kind imp]

aka they used off-type gear

[karmic willow]

3 mprs

not cool

[rigid hill]

Hence why I always send pics of cwll camera of the desktop screen lol

[raven crane]

Email?

[pearl beacon]

Using the desktop app? Try with the browser one

[karmic willow]

oh right

where are we putting sycamore in this time?

i'd probably do the classic Sycamore + Dragonite SP on Uxie

[raven crane]

I really should note all of this down, pahahaha.

[wide citrus]

there is one tho?

[chrome halo]

There is???

[raven crane]

Gakon’s got the alarms blaring.

[karmic willow]

@bitter gate

you are the lisia expert so

best team against regirock using lisia?

[river cliff]

Does the no stat increase effect work against clear advantage?

[chrome halo]

I don't think so

[modest oar]

No

[river cliff]

Darn

[rigid hill]

Rebuff and stuff like that I assume is status/condition

[shy sinew]

Rebuff qualifies as a status change, not condition

[quaint tartan]

Don’t see this happening, terrakion bottle neck

[kind imp]

i think he meant og leaf

[karmic willow]

terrakion is

rough

or easy if you can perma debuff it

[wide citrus]

ah

[karmic willow]

penny solos terrakion because of that specifically

[shy sinew]

ngl I don’t know if I’ve ever tried the Penny Terrakion solo, I might give that a whirl this time

[karmic willow]

so we may have to

remove things like

Janine

to deal with terrakion instead

[chrome halo]

Is it not really hard?

[karmic willow]

MC Nidoqueen is

toast

[shy sinew]

I feel like it is yes but I also have 70 energy

[karmic willow]

so do not let her cook under any circumstances

[karmic willow]

penny solos at +10E

[chrome halo]

If the solo only requires 3/5 i gotta give it a try

[karmic willow]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/29300/70000?s=5&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=18040802&g=AAECAwQFBwwOERMWGRwfICEkJyo&x=true

[karmic willow]

it needs 5/5

you're definitely cooked

[shy sinew]

aw heck yeah finally using TFB3 tile

[karmic willow]

i can afford

38 trios

assuming every other thing is duo

which is

not bad

last time i did 42 trios

and this is in worse case scenario cuz

i got a lot of duos and solos left to chew through

[shy sinew]

is the target there 200 or smth in that neighborhood?

[karmic willow]

mine?

i remember the cutoff being

170 ish last time

[shy sinew]

yeah curious on how you got to 38 trios as your calc point

[karmic willow]

so this time you have to get at least 200+

[karmic willow]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vgY0di3FLnAsXGvsXUsjS59Cwuq9UYj6yQ-Bap-p3II/edit#gid=0

[shy sinew]

unless you just want t100

[karmic willow]

you can check the process here

[karmic willow]

t100 you'll need 200 ish

[quaint tartan]

I might try penny solo

I have to recycle all of the investments for hse

[shy sinew]

damn another LG where I will settle for top 500 but this time I’ll probably finish fewer clears behind top 100

I don’t have the EXs or the experience for this

[karmic willow]

i don't have time so

i need to make sure every clear counts

also real talk

who is good with surge on uxie?

the og surge

ss dawn is there but

at 5/5 idk it feels like a waste

[tender horizon]

SS Blue

is my go to team

[karmic willow]

ss blue is stuck with a mon who's even worse

[tender horizon]

idc if its optimised or not, i do it

[karmic willow]

aka

lance

NY lance to be more specific

[tender horizon]

Oof

[karmic willow]

at least he has 60% para

[tender horizon]

i dont hv HE1 lance so u do that

[karmic willow]

a hard pill to swallow for me would be

volkner

NY volkner

to be more specific

he is gonna get COOKED

[tender horizon]

ye then NY Volk and SS Dawn

[karmic willow]

he has a horrible matchup vs terrakion

so no thanks

[karmic willow]

ss dawn gives crit

so

a waste since ny volk does have innate crit for me

[tender horizon]

u cant optimise everythingggg

[karmic willow]

so it's a REALLY hard crunch

I KNOWWWW

[tender horizon]

at least thts wht i wud always say

[karmic willow]

BUT I"M TRYINGGG

why does this game have to be so hard arghhh

now if sopholes actually gained ex

i would have probably

sent cynthia lodge and sopholes against uxie

jk the damage sucks

[dawn plume]

sophocles gets ex 2 days before it ends

[karmic willow]

i got

way more priorities than that

right now i'm stuck with

Mix Blue

Variety Lucas

Lysandre

Anni Skyla

Grusha

maybe add Argenta

but yeah those 5 are important

because field

[dawn plume]

grusha haver

[karmic willow]

idk what to put with grusha

[dark vector]

Yes it does, since it's a Field Effect that affects the enemy

[dawn plume]

grusha not getting field ex is still such a crime

[karmic willow]

with a duo he can solo terrakion

2 field effects is more than enough to kill anything

i have

27 wtz setters left

so i'll probably move SS N to deal with uxie

one of my first

trios tho

would definitely have to be

the classic

Cobalion

Lodge Silver

And of course, who can forget tech blastoise

[rigid hill]

So that means zinnia thievul too

[karmic willow]

Tech blastioise specifically helps with interfere sync 5

which is probably needed if you wanna knock out terrakion

[modest oar]

Interesting. I saw that SS Korrina got it too now so maybe she could solo Terrakion now?

[karmic willow]

you die to sync

[dawn plume]

she only gets it once, on on first hit only

[karmic willow]

a lot

it's kinda bad that like

[dawn plume]

seems unlikely it'll last the whole way

[karmic willow]

she doesn't have ridicule

or anything to sustain

[modest oar]

Yeah it won't. She's still good for Terrakion since she can steal his buffs

[karmic willow]

but

uxie:

i'd highly suggest everyone to stick to ontype first

unless it's a special case like solgaleo vs uxie

[shy sinew]

swimisty still the best partner for Solgaleo? I think I did that duo in LG12 but now I have swimisty EX

[rigid hill]

Do multi-hit attacks drop regirock defense more than 1?

[karmic willow]

https://tenor.com/view/regi-gif-21907523

[chrome halo]

No

[karmic willow]

no

[karmic willow]

Registeel literally gives solgaleo everything he can ask for

[rigid hill]

I was planning to give terrakion preference for steel/grass with field effects. Mistake?

[karmic willow]

depends on how many field effects you have

[rigid hill]

Seems like I got like 80+ but some of those are one time

[karmic willow]

for example

I have a shit ton of field effect users

sometimes i'd have to stack 2 of them at the same time to make sure i win

example: Irida and BP Candice

that's probably the ONLY time i'm doing that

[rigid hill]

Yeah I figure I want to stack the 1 time or 2 time effects together for 3 total

[shy sinew]

one use of wtz can be enough if you deal enough damage with it

[karmic willow]

on a basic level

one eggmon with 2 wtz

• a nuker

can definitely win

or one field pair sync

[rigid hill]

We only need for bar 2 and 3 right? So I guess I only need 2 total of wtz

[karmic willow]

if you are new i suggest dumping

One Psychic striker

One WTZ

One Tank

[sturdy steeple]

most good units against terrakion are offensive stat debuffers as opposed to wtz units

[karmic willow]

yes

you have 2 ways to go at it

either debuff it to oblivion and stall

[shy sinew]

the win by damage route and the win by not dying route

[rigid hill]

I was planning to.give the offensive stat debuffer attackers or supports to the wtz teams needing those slots

[karmic willow]

or burst it quick under wtz

some pairs do NOT wanna do wtz against terrakion like Blaine

i am

lowkey considering Blaine vs Uxie instead

[karmic willow]

the annoying thing is

[rigid hill]

Does terrakion use any attacks of those elements?

[karmic willow]

not dying means sustain

[rigid hill]

Do I need to avoid a whole type of weather

[karmic willow]

and regirock painfully forces you to stall

because haha crit shield

Regirock and Terrakion are annoying because of that

liza and oak though

now that's an interesting duo

@median swan how exactly did you do fantina and calem?

[sturdy steeple]

watch da videos if its recorded

[karmic willow]

no timestamps or

any records so

can't :<

[pearl beacon]

They almost got it last time, Torn+Steel was kinda pain
Now the stages looks more balanced in term of resources

[karmic willow]

somehow it feels like

[pearl beacon]

Hope they can would be cool

[river cliff]

I'm partial to giving Solgaleo Jasmine since Rose gets more out of the infinite speed buffs personally

[karmic willow]

"screw your electric types, go to Uxie, NOW"

[karmic willow]

sure

ft2 solgaleo and SE2 on jasmine

actually

WE2

because jasmine is a horrible SP.Def tanker

she's probably best against regirock

if i have to be honest

[river cliff]

She isn't bad with wise entry 2

[karmic willow]

that team will have

horrid gauge mind you

and

solgaleo is on a heavy timer

then agagin

i don't have rose

[river cliff]

Just get lucky with mgr I guess

[sturdy steeple]

actually gauge is fine

[river cliff]

And mpr

[karmic willow]

yeah rejuv 6 does help

alsoooo

@sturdy steeple once you start planning can I get a sneak peak too ~~

[sturdy steeple]

ive started but definitely not coming along too strong rn

[karmic willow]

i can help if you want

[sturdy steeple]

i just need to do a buncha class stuff firs tthen i can really start planning

[raven crane]

I’ve got class too.

Gauntlet basics 101.

[heavy sinew]

Same

[raven crane]

https://tenor.com/view/ffxvi-cid-smoking-cid-smoking-final-fantasy-gif-9993054788202693698

[rigid hill]

FRFR

Though a 100+ streak attempt is 201 or 301

[raven crane]

Fuckin’ fair.

Pahaha.

[worthy horizon]

1/5 ss n with non-ex bp olivia works on terrak, got a clear

[karmic willow]

yeah

bp olivia is

surprisingly tanky

you sure you wanna push that hard on terrak?

and

how much do you expect to get this time. I hope it's 200+

[worthy horizon]

with my limited roster just reaching 100 again is plenty

[true tartan]

I just want my 100

[stuck mantle]

Lol 200+?

This round for top100?

[karmic willow]

yess

[stuck mantle]

Last time was 168

When was soo easy

120-149 maks

[karmic willow]

i thought

176

[stuck mantle]

Terrakion will kill all

And regii too

This 2 is super hard

Last time was easy round realy

And most new units cant do this solos.

[karmic willow]

i want to do

[stuck mantle]

Rika need 5/5 for it

[karmic willow]

something against terrakion

like

[stuck mantle]

Not many have also

[karmic willow]

Lodge Raihan

and anything that can stall

janine

perfect

that team can live forever if played right

[stuck mantle]

Im lazzy around this lg🤣

When i check some vids off my terrakion solo no thanks🤣

Its soo dam hard

Even uxie bar 2? Its pain

If you cant skipp it or left low hp from start

Pain in ass

[river cliff]

I'm not sure if the Lyra + Erika duo can handle Terrakion. At least non EX Erika

Things go south real fast after swords dance

[karmic willow]

do not

do that

under any circumstances

unless you fork out a debuffer

erika at ex + good gear

still dies

do uxie instead

we have plenty of WTZ

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vgY0di3FLnAsXGvsXUsjS59Cwuq9UYj6yQ-Bap-p3II/edit#gid=0

Like if you take a look at my doc

you'd be surprised that

i stil have over 20+ WTZ

27 to be specific

which means that

i have more than enough tools to beat terrakion

and

i'm sure you do too

unless you are scraping for duos like Naomi

(no disrespect)

it's far easier to make trios like

1 attack 1 tank and one zone setter for bar 3

and 2

to some extent

if your dps is good enough

terrakion is quite... extreme

you have 2 extremes to beat him

either hard and fast

[river cliff]

I'm kind of a masochist and like to try to make super optimal teams work even if I'm not going for the leaderboard

[karmic willow]

then

wait for naomi or

follow my stuff

even naomi can't do optimal all the time

[upper lance]

Who’s the more restrictive ?
Uxie, Terrakion then Registeel right ?

[karmic willow]

so maybe wait further for top 1

[upper lance]

But only Terrakion can be sleep chained if I’m right ?

[karmic willow]

We have too many status users so Uxie is unironically not that bad

[river cliff]

I've got a pretty solid start on my planning, I'm just theorycrafting Terrakion clears atm

[karmic willow]

yes. All sleep goes to him

[raven crane]

Regirock.

[river cliff]

Glad to see SS Acerola + Gardenia can work. Barely

[dawn plume]

what can a 1/5 exr rika do

i was thinking double rika clear cuz funny

[raven crane]

I’m gradually stressing myself out more and more with planning for the gauntlet, because I haven’t started. Pahahaha.

[karmic willow]

Wowwwwwwwww

I hate this game sometimes

Note the paralyze on Kris

[raven crane]

Pahahaha.

[raven crane]

Only sometimes?

[pearl beacon]

I wanted to drop Natual Rememdy on notes bcs he has a pretty good annoying arsenal

Those early freezes mainly

But at least it's not like Azelf

[rigid hill]

What makes regirock restrictive? There isn't a way to bypass his crit shield right? So you just need big burst +/or good tanks?

[heavy sinew]

no debuffs either and you can't cheese with sleep/flinch

[raven crane]

Aye… Regirock…

Scary.

[rigid hill]

I will prioritize +defense supports obviously to him but idk, not much to plan otherwise

I'm sure when I have to push all my good attackers over to his section of my sheet when testing him last I will look like a fool

[modest oar]

Lowered to 3/5 EX R +6E

If she's 4/5 she should take Vigilance as lucky skill

[karmic willow]

The fact that Blue dies says a lot about this team. Absolute horrendous gauge.

[karmic willow]

Send grid

[sturdy steeple]

its not that i cant its just i choose not to sometimes lol

[karmic willow]

Sameeee

Like

What am I ever going to do with

[modest oar]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/12602/38000?s=3&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=17041601&g=AAECAwQFBgcICw4VFhgaHR8iLg&x=true

[karmic willow]

+2 attack on arcanite

Oh no

[modest oar]

I don't recommend it though

[karmic willow]

Better to just

Let him tank

[raven crane]

Agony.

[karmic willow]

He is just another body

Helps with some pairs like

akari so she Reaches max attack

Of course, there is always the option to just

You know

10% flinch

Because why the hell not

[karmic willow]

What's the grid for 5/5 10E again

Psychic event really pushed it for me

[modest oar]

See the grid in the solo sheet

[dawn plume]

this doesnt really work… rika relies on debuffing but lodge rika gives the team dodges which makes it hard to let rika get hit so syncs do too much

mayb a different grid works

[raven crane]

That’s a hilarious problem.

Pahahaha.

[karmic willow]

Chat am I cooked here

[raven crane]

Wowzers, 5/5?

You buy the pack?

[sturdy steeple]

what the heck

[quaint tartan]

What’s all this luxury here

[karmic willow]

Yeah i did

And uhhh

Nita 5/5 cuz i like her

[stuck mantle]

Lol rosa tell no gems no pull? All 5/5 now😂

[karmic willow]

Why not

[raven crane]

Aye, good a reason as any buddy!

[karmic willow]

She's bp lmfao

[pearl beacon]

5/5 Nita 📈
For extra screams

[karmic willow]

She can

Actually

[stuck mantle]

I have only 3/5 nita🤣

[karmic willow]

Kill bulu better

But anyways

[stuck mantle]

Im poor

[karmic willow]

How do i even

The sp atk is quite annoying

[raven crane]

Pahahaha of course, why did I expect anything less.

[karmic willow]

Bar 2 is hell

But yeah the damage is legit

Though

Not so sure about bar 3 earthquakw

[pearl beacon]

Bruh you're the whalest in EUE

[karmic willow]

Volo got +4

[karmic willow]

Shut up you have every other unit 5/5

Every time i see doc

[pearl beacon]

Let's show the world how we eat pierogi

[karmic willow]

Max invesrment with your name on it

You are not fooling anyone

[stuck mantle]

Tommorow you dont see it

Just 1/5 get cheren dont like

[karmic willow]

Lies

[stuck mantle]

But on 1 you see bianca 5/5;)

[karmic willow]

I see your name 5/5 exr day 1

Can't compete

[stuck mantle]

Bianca will be cheren not

[raven crane]

Homie got the secret security cameras.

[stuck mantle]

Cheren is meh for solos

[karmic willow]

I hate this game

[raven crane]

Aye that’s what we like to hear. Pahahaha.

[sturdy steeple]

:(

[pearl beacon]

Btw @stuck mantle i'm going to Krakow this weekeend, any suggestion for places to eat?

[stuck mantle]

Wat why not too gdansk?

[karmic willow]

At least ppl like quaggles, skippingmud and @sturdy steeple made it interesting for me

[stuck mantle]

😭

[karmic willow]

Still

I'm cooked for certain units

[raven crane]

Glances at my plethora of 1/5 units.

[karmic willow]

Same

Makes teambuilding so hard

[pearl beacon]

Too far, I'm going by bike

[raven crane]

Pahahaha, thanks for telling me what I’m in for.

[karmic willow]

Oh yeah....

Valerie

[raven crane]

We share a lot of things Rosa lover. A 5/5 Rei for one…

[karmic willow]

Earthquake bar 3 instakill

[stuck mantle]

Po krakosku” RESTAURACJA KRAKÓW KAZIMIERZ

[karmic willow]

Not good

[stuck mantle]

This is good

[karmic willow]

[stuck mantle]

Restaurant in krakow for polish food

Since we have many but italy or asia foods

And need try polish pierogi recomend dumplings

[raven crane]

Well thanks fellas, now I’m just hungry.

[stuck mantle]

Next time too gdansk:) i show you best place 🙂

[karmic willow]

Deadass broke lmfao

Tmr just daily cheren

Saving for bianca

[stuck mantle]

Lol you have for 3 multi

[karmic willow]

3 multi with bad luck means nothing

[raven crane]

I believe in you!

Full support.

[stuck mantle]

Luck or no luck is matter off time😂

[karmic willow]

You rich gimme your gems

And then we will talk

[stuck mantle]

I have only 44k

[karmic willow]

See?

So rich

[stuck mantle]

Wait for master deal for buy more

[rigid hill]

Guys I don't know about the MFs I only got 137k

[raven crane]

Skip.

[stuck mantle]

Bianca is top

[raven crane]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rising-of-the-shield-hero-glass-gif-18710164

[rigid hill]

Is that the chick from Shield Hero

[raven crane]

Yar.

[stuck mantle]

Rest you can skipp but bianca is must have

[raven crane]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/745724004634984540/1177797090869514250/glassmybeloved.gif?ex=6573d004&is=65615b04&hm=d9f1fa4ddd935720114f6e9b17945a32ceb048f5fa6de6176f222afed988ef56&

[raven crane]

But but the best underpaid business man…

[stuck mantle]

Haha i scout for cheren and bianca

And kabu

[raven crane]

Evil.

[stuck mantle]

Lary i dont now🤣.

Depend how rest will go maybe try daily

Good all reruns i have

But for solo bianca top

Cheren is bad

Kabu? Hard tell how he recover hp and damage but also not the best

[worthy horizon]

kabu's stats are sooo high

[stuck mantle]

But trap is one time use

Burn not all you can or they can get immune

All depend how many he recover hp from b move

[worthy horizon]

blaine duos could work out well

sun and trap

[stuck mantle]

Yeap

Duo good

Since kabu recover hp from sun

And sunscreen

[upper lance]

1/5 6Ex Paulo

[raven crane]

Is she EX’d?

[upper lance]

Yes

[raven crane]

I don’t remember her colors or pose.

Sad..

[upper lance]

The scarf isn’t red on her regular cloth

[raven crane]

I won’t remember, pahahaha.

Thank you though.

[upper lance]

And her vest is white and not Grey (you can briefly see on the Sprite )

[karmic willow]

So closeeeeeee

I needed one more mpr on tm

And well, flinch didn't connect in time

But

It's definitely doable

I can one shot bar 2

But bar 3 is a different story

Either one shot bar 2

Or one shot bar 3

Hmmmmm

@sturdy steeple do you think is it even viable for blaine to be hanging around Terrakion?

I am seriously considering him to go to uxie

[sturdy steeple]

dunno yet

[karmic willow]

He is weak to rock

Just a small reminder

[sturdy steeple]

hes gonna need a good partner no matter where he goes this rotation

[karmic willow]

I don't know where I saw it but

Blaine and something like SS Dawn

Would work

[sturdy steeple]

blaine + good support is easy vs uxie

[karmic willow]

No wait scrafch that

Yes

On terrakion it's hell

[sturdy steeple]

im more interested in terrak implications

[karmic willow]

On paper you need

Defensive buffs

Some way to heal him constantly

So synchro healing

Or pot

Or g.heal

And said support can deal crap loads of damage too

C.bede is too selfish for that

[heavy sinew]

Omastar solos ez

[karmic willow]

Chop chop time

[raven crane]

Sygna Suit Erika my beloved.

[karmic willow]

It should work

But nah

It's a really... Frustrating cleae

Like

Moltress

[raven crane]

You’re persistent buddy.

[karmic willow]

Less leeway than moltress

[raven crane]

You got it.

[karmic willow]

I am not doing this rn

I am theorizing only

[rigid hill]

@karmic willow I bet the npcs have a tough time keeping a straight face when they call you by your name, "Rosa Best Waifu"

[raven crane]

Okay Charizard Fella. Quit making fun of Rosa Fella. Pahahaha.

[karmic willow]

@sturdy steeple flinch 8 means it's always

Flinch > TM/leer > Solar Blade > Flinch

She can nuke bar 2 pretty good

But

Multiple sunny day tm is required...

Why is this game so hard

[sturdy steeple]

yes, wtz setter + flinch is gonna be a go to for a lotta teams

[karmic willow]

And a lot of luck

Because you literally die the moment it attacks

I wanna do easy clears

Even with 10E i doubt it would be any easy

[heavy sinew]

Flinches for terra

Sleep for terra

[karmic willow]

Not that I have that kind of luxury

[heavy sinew]

Uh

Freeze too ig

[karmic willow]

Flinch sleep wtz debuff

And freeze

You need all of that to stand a chance

And then

You turn to regirock

You question whether or not to do solo with Tapu Bulu

Or duo at terrakion

@sturdy steeple oh yeah

Bulu and Blaine

That can work

Though it's a bit overkill but blaine is guaranteed to have everything he needs

[raven crane]

Damn I’m a psychic.

[karmic willow]

Not really cuz

I am so not doing that clear

Bulu goes straight to soloing regirock

[raven crane]

I was walking back to my office when I read your message about Blaine, thought in my head about Acerola. Funny.

[sturdy steeple]

but i wanna sync with acerola

[karmic willow]

Sorry i can only think so much

But yeah acerola is

Problematic

She cannot whistand anything sp atk related

Any sp.atk dropper tho

A physical sync pair that somehow drops sp.atk

That is a rare sighting

[karmic willow]

To body slam

Or not to body slam

[sturdy steeple]

wish i had summer n

would be funwith ssace

[karmic willow]

Hmmm

I suppose that would work

Yes

I used to have him 1/5

And i added him as damage boost

For the lenora 1/5 lodge calem and himself clear

It was wild

Literally put together from nothing

@austere crown i trust you still have it

Anyways

Lenora...

I mean she is a flincher so

Auto terrakion

But what kind of partner does she need

Not to mention she gets slaughtered bar 3

Yikes

[modest oar]

https://youtu.be/GkxrmKTp6nY?si=q7OZXEYNA-RA3gbC

[sturdy steeple]

very nice

[modest oar]

Don't recommend it though

Any meatshield works as a duo

[sturdy steeple]

do you need the energy since it was just spent on a sync tile

you did over6k of terrak's hp in bar 3 so

[modest oar]

You probably need +2 for all the tiles she wants. She needs the damage for Bar 1 sync

The other 4 energy is for extra bulk

[karmic willow]

Maybe wrong grif

Grid

But this almost one shotted bar 2 without sp3

Tldr ez clear is ez

Beyond overkill even

[raven crane]

Yoink.

[river cliff]

I've wondered if doing something like Dana + Helena or Fantina could work for a similar bar skipping strategy, but the gauge is pretty cringe

[karmic willow]

Lmfaoooooooo

[worthy horizon]

yeah dana doesn't provide great gauge

[karmic willow]

Worth a shot

[quaint tartan]

A couple of spdef debuff and it’s 1 shot

C’mon shadow ball do something

[karmic willow]

Uhhh

I used Hex

But yeah

[raven crane]

Shauntal is doing her best!

[karmic willow]

Shadow ball -2 ez one shot

Not like I can't win from that state though

But

It is fun

I might reduce it to just ss elesa

[river cliff]

I've become a believer in revenge boost as a ls on her and it's made her a lot more bearable

[karmic willow]

God finding a team for her is gonna be ass

Dana pika kid

Works well on tornadus

[river cliff]

And dana scyther on azelf

[karmic willow]

Now

The real question here

Nanu and f.cait for regirock?