Legendary Gauntlet 17 (Registeel, Azelf, Cobalion)

[karmic willow]

tech glacion

is it better for ss red

or ss N

it's such a good cheat

[modest oar]

N can manage with Dewgong

Red wants Glaceon more

[karmic willow]

yeah but

i plan to throw

dewgong to volkner lodge

because i am not soloing with him

his speed is ass

i have seen the solo clip and i figure getting some leeway would be best

so the question of who gets to go with Glaceon is up there

Red can definitely use glaceon because it's a damage race at bar 3 really

[modest oar]

What Dewgong even do for Volkner

[karmic willow]

sp.def

that's literally all i need

or i could just do

viola

[modest oar]

Pretty sure Dewgong only buff himself

[karmic willow]

holy shit viola actually works ngl

[modest oar]

Viola should be good with him yeah

[karmic willow]

which is not bad considering i might eat hurricanes early on

[thick dawn]

yes

[karmic willow]

damn

no wonder

why i couldn't find any youtube videos about it

[modest oar]

You can tank with Viola long enough for Volkner to clean up

[thick dawn]

and i will just put her with clair to torn

for the glacia question lol

[karmic willow]

hmmm

not gonna lie

i am tempted to

throw in like

SS kris and 1/5 eusine

eusine got that extra flinch

[bitter gate]

nah, there's a better way to do Clair

without having to waste Glacia on it

[karmic willow]

clairr with who vs torn?

[bitter gate]

granted mine is invested so maybe that's why

[thick dawn]

i'm all ears but yeah i'm only at 0/20

[modest oar]

Clair is a garbage unit (Kingdra I mean)

[bitter gate]

I recall using Lenora with her

[modest oar]

I would use her with SS Kris but mine is 2/5

[bitter gate]

which I feel is less of a waste

but issue is

Lenora is better for registeel

[karmic willow]

lenora is better for regi

[bitter gate]

so i need to figure out something else

[karmic willow]

also i remember

[heavy sinew]

Leeer

[karmic willow]

back in my last day

hooooboy

[heavy sinew]

but fighting weak

[thick dawn]

clair is good if you could get her whole grid but seeing as all her decent tiles are a billion energy it doesn't help

[karmic willow]

1/5 lenora ex

BP sopholes

electabuzz

[heavy sinew]

same with flint but he's just

Bad

[bitter gate]

i mean she doesn't really want much

[karmic willow]

it worked against tornadus XD

[bitter gate]

she just wants HE/PS and her accuracy

like she has the damage, she just needs

something to frontline long enough

accounting for fishing variance

for her to do the job

I thnk Piers also works

[karmic willow]

piers already got a date with N

[bitter gate]

but I always use Piers with N becaus mine is like

3/5

[karmic willow]

the issue with piers is that

you don't get value from his defense reduction + attack buffs

[bitter gate]

but I think why waste Piers with N when you can use it with a shittier unit, but I'd need to test it properly first

[pearl beacon]

She need some battery

[karmic willow]

you waste crit buffs

[bitter gate]

its kinda hard to find a mold that fits hand and glove, some compromise is there

[karmic willow]

piers is a better battery for a 4 gauge like N

[bitter gate]

I think Swimsuit Misty is too much of a waste

[karmic willow]

yeah

[bitter gate]

but I think Glacia is a waste

just solo Bulu with her

or use a worse unit like

Hau

as in base Hau

[karmic willow]

Swimsuit misty is reserved for carrying 30% para characters

that are super squishy

example: strike persian

[bitter gate]

I value Glacia more than swimsuit Misty, at least

but that's just me

[karmic willow]

yeah

to each their own

glacia also got s healing

but she got crit

then again, misty is far better at making sure your team stays alive if you cannot freeze

glacia is also a bit more selfish

[bitter gate]

but yeah, I'll experiment with it

[karmic willow]

good luck

hmmm

lodge morty....

@bitter gate

[pearl beacon]

Glacia isn't going on bulu?

[karmic willow]

glacia + clair vs torn

clair is bad so

you'll need help

[heavy sinew]

Does that thing have double edge?

[karmic willow]

body slam and slash

[heavy sinew]

ih

[karmic willow]

you must confused with the raticate

[heavy sinew]

ah

Yes probably

all I know are how most normal strikers are bad

[karmic willow]

i could have sworn

i remember there is a

2/5 summer hilda and bruno clear

then again

i think i did wally with that

it even took out latias surprisngly enough

though

such low speed

is cringe

so maybe riley instead

[dawn plume]

mfw riley has to do offtype damage to debuff

[karmic willow]

summer Hilda: i can work with that

ugh

moments like these makes me wish i had kept a log

because i remember using summer hilda and wally

then again

wally + sc steven + flincher can work

i have quite a few flinchers to spare

assuming i want to do

NC leaf vs tornadus

who is a good duo to go with? Blaine (for MF passive and Healing sun) or Flareon?

oh damn

only ninetails have healing sun

fuck

blaine time

blaine can gain defensive stats

yeah

i'll ship it

[stuck mantle]

Solo leaf:)

[rigid hill]

So is Registeel the bottleneck this time? Or still Tornadus needing paralyze?

[karmic willow]

torn

[bitter gate]

id say torn

[stuck mantle]

Torn more hard and reggi not easy too

[rigid hill]

Okay so I should choose all 30%+ paralyze units for Tornadus even if they also lower one of the defenses?

[stuck mantle]

No para no win vs torn

No choise

[rigid hill]

Can registeel be blitzed with OP pairs even if it has +defenses

[stuck mantle]

If you flinch him yes

Just take more time

[rigid hill]

Ah so flinchers better to use against registeel than tornadus?

[stuck mantle]

Torn cant flinch lol

Reggi can be flinch perma

Tapu can be flinch until he get unflap

[rigid hill]

Okay so I will use flinchers for registeel if it is only one who doesn't become immune

[stuck mantle]

Yes

[rigid hill]

I wouldn't have guessed that based on their initial resistsnces

[stuck mantle]

You can sleep reggi too but too bar 3. And tapu can be sleep perma

Same go frozen

[rigid hill]

Bulu has 0, tornados 6, and registeel 8 flinch resistsnce, that's pretty misleading if some gain immunity and not others

[stuck mantle]

Bar 3 reggi is immune vs sleep freze itc

This is how fast he atack after 1 flinch mean

Tapu can be flinch 1 time more longer

Torn can be flinch 2 times only

Reggi perma

Tapu get immune vs flinch after some time

[rigid hill]

Okay guess all my flinchers to Registeel if it never ends up immune, thanks

[stuck mantle]

Yes

And tapu you can freeze and put sleep unlimited

Torn work only para

[dawn plume]

i'm predicting 10/14 solos for volo

[stuck mantle]

Lol how?

[dawn plume]

maybe 11/14 if someone gets insanely lucky on tornadus

[stuck mantle]

Give me sync grid and skill for it

[dawn plume]

rng pray for shields

and accuracy debuffs

ggs

[stuck mantle]

Since i dont see his grid lol

You have any ideas?

I have grid for jacq and selene ready

Volo dont have idea

[dawn plume]

grab sync regen and circle extension and, depending on the stage, satisfied snicker or overwhelm

hes not getting either of the regis or moltres

he has options for everything else it's just all random nonsense

[stuck mantle]

Torn cress dont belive it

[shy notch]

I thought masterful metronome would have more types, but there are only 11 moves (including Fissure). In a way that’s a good thing if you’re fishing for something specific like zap cannon

[stuck mantle]

Torn if dont cure para non stop magbe

[dawn plume]

14/14 just roll 3 fissure

[stuck mantle]

He dont have fissure

Its only this 4 gauge moves

[dawn plume]

i think the most important things to roll for on metronome are the effects it can proc

the crit shields especially

[stuck mantle]

Yeap but all is random

And also how long this will protect you

[dawn plume]

should be long enough, he does good damage

but it is all random

[shy notch]

Oh I just noticed masterful metronome also increase PMUN and SMUN by one like Pal Elesa. He should be hitting pretty hard

[stuck mantle]

This vs bulu?

[shy notch]

But he can’t rely on the SMUN stacks since he has to alternate between his b move and dazzling gleam

[dawn plume]

that can get bulu yeah, run stoic

[stuck mantle]

Yeap he get it after use

So use on dazing gleam

[dawn plume]

only 4 physical moves

could get lucky and stack pmun and then roll gunk shot to one shot bulu bar 2

that would be funny

[stuck mantle]

Will try it tommorw

Bad he dont have raise his sts

Better would raise his def and special then lower it

[sturdy steeple]

Yes it's very easy

didnt even need potion mprs (ofc grab it cause its always good)

[stuck mantle]

Who is first targed?

Leaf?

[sturdy steeple]

blaine

[stuck mantle]

And he flying guard?

[sturdy steeple]

you sync once with him on bar 2 near the end for more sun

[stuck mantle]

Thanks

[sturdy steeple]

[stuck mantle]

Why blain viggi

?

[sturdy steeple]

because the sure crits are annoying

and random crits

he buffs spdef as well, so you dont want crits going thru that

[stuck mantle]

Ok:)

[modest oar]

It is that easy? I'm currently using her for Registeel but mine isn't EX R

[robust nymph]

I'm planning my nc leaf to regi solo as well

[sturdy steeple]

mine is EX R so

using her for registeel is fine too

[bitter gate]

Moltres is too hard for anabel

but I think I'm getting close to uxie

[sturdy steeple]

[bitter gate]

Uxie actually doesn't do shit to Anabel lol

but she also doesn't do shit back ofc

so it's a battle of endurance

then max move chunks one bar

[sturdy steeple]

thats juicy

[bitter gate]

still gonna focus on the rose regi solo first

I keep getting so close

[true tartan]

:T

[bitter gate]

if Rose had 5O% instead of 2O% on his passive

I think I coudl run vigilance and it'd be an easy solo

because he takes hits well, just not all of them

[stuck mantle]

Just do it in lg

[bitter gate]

yeah

gonna try that in LG

[stuck mantle]

Now no sens

[bitter gate]

at least I did the anabel solo

on Registeel

so that's a new one

[stuck mantle]

I have rolled today nice skill gear for elaine

And keep it vs torn on lg

Hehe

[bitter gate]

my elaine is 3/5 so I'll just

registeel it

or is ti better to like

use her for torn with some shitmon

lol

[stuck mantle]

If i want top100 need push hard

Need cut off extra pairs

Time do all shitty solos😂

Wat never touch befor

[dawn plume]

practicing solos and had this happen on a first try 💀

woulda cleared if registeel didnt get a mind brace proc

but this is pretty reasonable

[stuck mantle]

Haha

I hate rei vs reggi

Nice easy solo

Also make practice never did geeta befor vs reggi

[worthy horizon]

ssr cynthia solo/eggmon duo is really bad, recommend practicing that one

solo needs a lot of good rng and very good execution

and very good skill gear even with exr

vs registeel btw

[stuck mantle]

Ssr cynthia scary me. Dont wanna scout🥲

[dawn plume]

i did a duo w her last time

dont remember what but it wasnt too bad

that solo seems crazy

[modest oar]

That solo relies on lucky debuffs and being able to nuke past half Bars

I think I'll duo with a flincher

[karmic willow]

He is

Meant to die

[dawn plume]

oh yeah dawn

that was probably overkill

[karmic willow]

Otherwise blaine will get in the queue

[dawn plume]

but whatever

[karmic willow]

I hppe you can do video of this one day haha

Meanwhile

Tech arcanite 10% flinch gaming let's go

Make it to bar 3 and you are home free

Mine kinda died to wood hammer (lel)

[heavy sinew]

3/5?

I'm gonna consider using SS korrina on torn

rising tide gaming kinda 😳

[worthy horizon]

ye practice will get you used to shadow force timing and help you downgrade your support as necessary

[karmic willow]

@bright brook oh yeah, i forgot to also tell you about the misty grid for duoing with anni lillie

get RB2 and flying guard. You'll survive bar 1 no problem

[modest oar]

I'll use her on Bulu to avoid the headace. Idk who to pair her for Torn

[heavy sinew]

Hmmm

I have a feeling I can do her and 1/5 NC serena

But like

Why would I

[modest oar]

How would you even do Tornadus without paralysis

1/5 NC Serena should probably solo Bulu

[heavy sinew]

Brute forcing is kinda funny

[karmic willow]

man

i love ft1

it's useless at times

0 procs

[nimble cargo]

It still is imo, a lot of players me including don't have the time or even bother to streak past 10

[stuck mantle]

Yes 🙂 but if some have it can do . But its off course not necesary

Alot skipp lg or do 11-30 maks

[nimble cargo]

I mean someone can do 1 streak only in the next LG and someone do 100 streak in that same LG, that 100 streak is probably top 1%

[heavy sinew]

Case in point

[pearl beacon]

Slap Wulfric or a cheap meatshield and you can do Regi

[heavy sinew]

o damn this can probably happen

[pearl beacon]

Love how I noted 8 teams from LG11 📉

[heavy sinew]

I think any physical nuker can replace korrina

I just thought it was funny

[stuck mantle]

Lol korina and serena expensive team lol

[heavy sinew]

I know

[stuck mantle]

Korina wat can solo bulu reggi

?

[heavy sinew]

Bulu

[stuck mantle]

I never use my😂

Is 5/5 lv 1 still🤣🤣

[heavy sinew]

Regi could happen if it didn't have acuity

[stuck mantle]

She can lower acu?

[bright brook]

Huh, is this LG11?

[heavy sinew]

with spectral thief yeah kinda

[stuck mantle]

A she steel it

[heavy sinew]

but regi's acuity makes it so her nuke and DPS plummets

[karmic willow]

Yeah

Looked at your notes for lg11

We still have tornadus this time so....

Damnnnnnnn

With minimal investment even

[stuck mantle]

Lol

[karmic willow]

1/5 dawn for the win

all of them were 1/5

[stuck mantle]

Aha now make sens

[heavy sinew]

I might do this

without allister ofc

[karmic willow]

if dawn is ex then

it should be easier

bar 3 nuke would kill asap

but alas

[pearl beacon]

Nope, you can't lower sadly
But bulu is quite easy

[karmic willow]

now imagine allister was 2/5

[stuck mantle]

I did solo alister torn past his lg

Was easy run

[karmic willow]

of course it's easy for you

you have him 3/5

[stuck mantle]

Yeap

[karmic willow]

now do it 1/5

i don't care how you get him back to 1/5

[stuck mantle]

Haha🤣

And i agree

[karmic willow]

you keep saying "oh this is easy"

if i have the same unit it's also easy for me

[stuck mantle]

This would be intersting

If we can lower him back

[karmic willow]

or you can just

use a 1/5 grid

see how that goes

[stuck mantle]

Its not the same lol

Since i still be use 3/5 grid🤣🙂

If we can low move lv back like eggmons

To zero

And try low move lv would be interesting

[bright brook]

Sure. I wont start planning till the weekends so remind me

[stuck mantle]

This player and gengar wat % have for para?

[karmic willow]

60%

it's in the passive

[stuck mantle]

Wat is tech?

[karmic willow]

support

[stuck mantle]

I dont now i have sup lol

[karmic willow]

[stuck mantle]

60% jesus

[karmic willow]

"it's easy"

[stuck mantle]

Yeap 60% its easy

From eggmons some others have from passives for para this extra?

[karmic willow]

i don't even understand what you're saying

[stuck mantle]

Others eggmons

Have in pasive

Like gengar

Extra chance for para

[karmic willow]

a lot

but not support

[stuck mantle]

Is this yes?

[heavy sinew]

Ye

[stuck mantle]

Ok

Pinsir have in passive extra chance for para from body slam?

[heavy sinew]

Tech yes

[stuck mantle]

Aha i have 1 passive

So all can have 1-3?

[pearl beacon]

Every eggmon can have 1 to 3 passives, usually the more the better since third and second are overall the most useful
Passives are in a fixed order

[rocky oasis]

hatch more pinsirs

[stuck mantle]

This wat you get not use eggmons at all only use last lg and never look at them🤣

I have pinsirs in lab but all support

Lol

[pearl beacon]

Ye, for big streak they're damn good
And also here is the only place where we praise eggmons

[stuck mantle]

Now i see it too:)

Never think they good but after last lg now they are but need be invested

[rocky oasis]

lol what else are you gonna do w/ the eggmon items

also

[stuck mantle]

I did nothing

Befor🤣

[rocky oasis]

aim for like 144ish defensive stats on them

[stuck mantle]

Think since they dont have sync grids wat hell i need them🤣🤣

[rocky oasis]

its usually enough bulk to survive a sync or two

[stuck mantle]

I have alot off them but not lv up

But thanks you for explain me about passive eggmons:) now i get it:)

[pearl beacon]

As general eggmon tips

• keep 3 of each species (3 roles)
• 4* 2/3 treats is mostly enough to survive
• Don't sell before double checking, you never know

[rocky oasis]

140ish def/spdef is generally enough tho ofc more always helps hat dogshit bulk

[stuck mantle]

And pichu? Have in pasive for para ?

[pearl beacon]

Nope

[stuck mantle]

Ok

[pearl beacon]

But strike got a good damage

Thunder + piercing gaze

[stuck mantle]

I have strike whit 3 passive shinny even🤣

[pearl beacon]

Ye that's nice for torn

[rocky oasis]

30% para units are useful too when youre going for big streaks

not reliable but that's what the 150 resets are for

[pearl beacon]

Few teams from LG11
I wasn't streaking, neither this time, but are still nice

I have no tech Onyx, so probably it's better on regi for screech

[modest oar]

I took your format for planning my own sheet, hope you don't mind it since yours is really good

Also, Raikou
https://youtu.be/Wm9mSFe4soQ?si=-aaKFgm1H3HGay01

[pearl beacon]

4EXR

[modest oar]

I have her 4EX but no cake

[pliant glen]

Have to wonder what that grid be

EX R is probably required to get rid of sidemons early

[modest oar]

He did put grid

Seems he went for zone mpr

[pliant glen]

Okay that should def be possible at 3/5 then

The extra 2 energy went to a stat tile lol

[pearl beacon]

Looks like no extra energy

Maybe it happened he got an extra copy
But 3/5 should be doable, skill gears can eventually compensate that 5%

[stuck mantle]

Lol she can only restore 1 mp

?

[heavy sinew]

I forgot she has strike cake

Now I know what to give

[worthy horizon]

she restores 1 mp per sync

[stuck mantle]

She would be better if got field ex role

[worthy horizon]

better overall, worse for raikou

[stuck mantle]

Chynthia 4/5 and alot ghost 1/5 his team look strange

[modest oar]

I think Strike is not terrible for her

[stuck mantle]

Redonho

[modest oar]

Well Redhono might use one of his alts for this

It's well known he has several

[stuck mantle]

I think its his main 159 lv player

Or not lol🤣

[modest oar]

Then he might be a Cynthia fan

I don't blame him

[stuck mantle]

Unit is nice but i avoid it

Like archie and maxie

[modest oar]

I guess he had her 3/5 EX before and used paid for cake

[stuck mantle]

Never pull

[modest oar]

Why lol

[stuck mantle]

Archie and maxie kit all i dont like. And ssra cynthia banner scare me😂

I afraid pull haha

[modest oar]

Wouldn't hurt to try

[stuck mantle]

She look scary🤣

My gems would hurt

[modest oar]

How many you got?

[stuck mantle]

She say pity pity too me

Wat got ?

[modest oar]

gems

[stuck mantle]

60+k something

[modest oar]

I think doing dailies would be worth it

Who knows, she might come

[worthy horizon]

yea lotta wasted potential with the archie rerun

even the rerun before they coulda expanded his grid

[modest oar]

I feel like Archie would only be worth scouting for once he gets primal

[copper helm]

Whoever gave him Tech was like

[heavy sinew]

I have 3EXR

I think I can lower it

[stuck mantle]

Nah i need use 300 paid gems if want scout chynthia for cake nah i skipp:)

[tight rivet]

i regret everything

[modest oar]

He isn't terrible, but I wouldn't scout him if I didn't have him

[tight rivet]

he kinda is

sync bad dps is nowhere close to being competitive anymore

utility isnt unique anymore

hes just stuck in this state where you have several options that can do what he does better

[heavy sinew]

Remember his EBE

That was fun

[tight rivet]

no

[heavy sinew]

And showed how broken he was in release

now he's

Thwre

[tight rivet]

i mean yeah but 3 years ago is a completely different environment

like straight up hes the only unit i regret candying

[worthy horizon]

power creep victim, like most strikes

[sturdy steeple]

still one of the few rain extenders

by few i mean a second one literally Just released

[modest oar]

And she sucks at summoning rain

Only once is not good

[heavy sinew]

Equivalent to one Archie

[kind imp]

meanwhile the tapus with infinite terrain (at 3/5) AND extension

[heavy sinew]

Cause the tapus are gaming

[stray sandal]

Man these flinch runs requires so much skill

[rocky oasis]

not looking forwards to having to do anything with archer

hes such a weird unit to use

[worthy horizon]

yea archie duo with eggmon on latios wasn't free

can do it easily by this point but not last gauntlet

[modest oar]

Where I should use 1/5 SS Roxie?

Maybe on Bulu?

[stray sandal]

Is normal better or speed better on regi for steven? The stats seems so much better on speed

Or you favor flinch %

[copper helm]

https://youtu.be/Wm9mSFe4soQ?si=b-l0OOPsPf4DR3ai was this discussed today?

4/5 exr with Gears

[kind imp]

here

[copper helm]

Ty!

Hmm could this be done without gears

And lowered to 3/5 EXR

[modest oar]

I think it should be able to be done 3/5 EXR

Without gears I doubt it

[worthy horizon]

need as much defenses as possible

[modest oar]

I almost got Bulu with 1/5 SC Irida

[stray sandal]

What's are the constraints

Mine is 1/5 ex I could try as well

[pliant glen]

I've got Ghost Gears trained from the Shauntal solo that I still need to do

[modest oar]

Just dodge enough

I gave her mind games for this

[stray sandal]

Is yours 150

Or 140

[heavy sinew]

got to sync, died to quick attack

[modest oar]

150

[heavy sinew]

I can do it

I thought it was extra energy

[stray sandal]

It's pretty hard lol. She takes so much dmg when they hit

I wonder if you are better off with healthy healing at the start

[stuck mantle]

My irida 3/5 still suks solo bulu

Not easy

Since you need flinch bar 2 and bar 3

[modest oar]

It's doable. I got close several times

[stuck mantle]

Need luck whit miss

[modest oar]

But I think in gauntlet I'll pair her with a sp. def buffer

[stray sandal]

Doable def

[stuck mantle]

I need like 1 from bar 2/3

Need avoid dark moves

Since she weak and lost alot hp

[stray sandal]

Haha I think just that 1 dodge and we good

[modest oar]

That miss

[heavy sinew]

1/5?

[stray sandal]

Yea

[heavy sinew]

Might try it, don't have MG tho

[modest oar]

I think other lucky skills could work, but it's just a matter of dodging

And Irida getting freebie procs

[worthy horizon]

ss leaf soloing registeel should be doable no?

not on the sheet

gets terrak and raikou already

[modest oar]

Idk, Leaf doesn't buff herself so she either dies to physical or special moves

Like Registeel has Hyper Beam in Bar 2 half and Leaf will be at -2 sp. def

[worthy horizon]

yea regi's defense debuffs

would force her into enlightenment 9

[modest oar]

And then in Bar 3 she'll be blasted by Giga Impacts and Rock Slides

Not fun at all

at -4 defenses

[robust nymph]

I tried when regi first came out, gave up

No crit really hurts

On top of everything else

[austere crown]

confirmed?

Stealing14 (EMisty EX, 1/5 SuN, Strike Persian on Torn)

[austere crown]

Stealing14 (NCLeaf EX, Blaine duo on Torn)

• Apparently no Potion MPR is required; Grids included below.

[austere crown]

Stealing14 (Tech Arcanine, Leon EX duo on Bulu)

• idk if this is caked.....

[austere crown]

Stealing14 (1/5 FAllister EX, 1/5 NYDawn, Support Gengar on Torn)

[tender horizon]

Wherr shud volo go

For this lg

This Nitsua says hes just gonna use up his roster but alrdy stealing everything

[wise raven]

Be lucky enough to roll for zap cannon vs Tornadus

[austere crown]

I'm just notetaking for the future...

why can't I do boht, huh?

[worthy gate]

do we know what cookie we get for lg14?

[pliant glen]

Status Immunity

From Gauntlet 2

[worthy gate]

ah i see thankyou

[pearl beacon]

LG14, Guaranteed LS from LG2
Title: Gauntlet 1

[bitter gate]

What LS is it again

[main ruin]

That kinda sucketh doesn't it

[worthy horizon]

matters a lot if you're trying to beat out cresselia but cress isn't in any gauntlets

[sturdy steeple]

It's great actually now that LS swapping is a thing, you can just put it on a support and swap to it for any stage that you need a status immunity for

[pearl beacon]

As long as we don't get standard 3* guaranteed LS like CS2 or Vigilanxlce, are all useful

Wish we had some entries

[worthy horizon]

revenge boost, head start 1, adrenaline, and supreme entry are never required for anything

supreme entry has to be the worst

[pearl beacon]

Not sure revenge boost but HS1 and Adrenaline1 are worth for some strats, so having a guaranteed can save time

[sturdy steeple]

literally only used supreme entry once for ssgrim oneshotting bar 2 moltres

[pearl beacon]

Supreme entry, maybe some turbo thing but

[worthy horizon]

revenge boost is largely outclassed by fast track 2 and mgr2

[pearl beacon]

Kinda, ye, and it doesn't break quadqq

[karmic willow]

Revenge boost is

Weird

Like there is a niche for it

It's good when you know you are taking hits while at max speed

I had anni lillie take it

Once

It gave me a crap ton of gauge

But then again, it's for testing and nothing serious

[bright brook]

Mg2 is better 99% of the time

[karmic willow]

@bright brook how many paralyze users do you have?

Considering that

Torn is the bottleneck this time

It's a rough life

[bright brook]

Well i havent counted yet

[karmic willow]

Also ngl

I like being able to have a chance against torn with Blaine and NC Leaf

[bright brook]

Been really busy so i wont be able to plan till tomorrow

[karmic willow]

Like yeah leaf can solo

(8 days ago or something)

But nah i hate potion clears

I hope i can still get into top 100 haha

Leaf eevee solo registeel is painful

[bright brook]

Unlike HS, I dont think people will try hard for the LG leaderboard, even if titles a thing now so youre good

[karmic willow]

Yeah...

Cutoff last time was 160

It's stacked

Assuming a huge +40 into it

Then again

It"s paralyze

Now the real question is

@bright brook between registeel and bulu, where do you think koga should go to!

I mean mg9 is

Huge

[bright brook]

Depends if you wanna do bulu solo

Defense debuff units aren't necessarily tied to registeel, you can always use dc2 and mg2

[dawn plume]

imma save tech nukers like ss lyra and c serena for the end this time in case i wanna use em on torn

got 8 solos planned for both torn and registeel

9 for torn actually

[heavy sinew]

I got some

[bitter gate]

im wondering if Falkner Registeel is possible, lawl

[dawn plume]

my struggle as always will be which units to relegate to the "easy one" bulu

hard to choose

except of course

[bitter gate]

Nate, Caitlin

these are the easy choices

base Dawn and base Blue also

Glacia/Falkner, maybe

[dawn plume]

yeah thinking i might do base dawn

i used her on registeel last time it was in rotation but it was kind of an overkill duo

[heavy sinew]

Sidney

[shy notch]

I wonder how many solos Volo will get

If it’s a lot, I’m going to end up caving and pulling for him

[true tartan]

all I gotta say

seemingly unmissable fissures

lol

[shy notch]

Oh wow

Fissure normally ignores accuracy checks but I guess not the passive

[true tartan]

we don't know if accuracy checks apply in poma

they already do many things differently

and even if you have +6 acc on the mon, it has 60% of hitting Fissure, if the acc check works as normal

[shy notch]

Hmm too few instances to get an accurate estimate

I still don’t know if Fissure is supposed to have a 0.1% chance of appearing or what

[true tartan]

many have the title

so...

[shy notch]

I noticed that. I think 1% is way too high to roll it, so I’m assuming 0.1%

The title still counts if it misses at least

[true tartan]

does it?

I thought it had to hit

[shy notch]

Pretty sure it counts either way

[stuck mantle]

Volo dont have fissure lol

Only 4 gauge moves

Its b metronome whit diffrent moves then metronome

[shy notch]

https://pastebin.com/6sEQbM1k

Fissure is the only non 4 bar move included in the b move

[sturdy steeple]

Fissure is actually a 4 gauge move

[shy notch]

I actually just saw that

Who knew

[sturdy steeple]

It's so funny

[true tartan]

it always was

:T

[shy notch]

It’s more out of place in regular metronome among the 3 bar moves lol

[sturdy steeple]

I remember searching for 4 gauge moves back in the day on gamepress and saw fissure on that list, like it makes sense but it's still funny

[karmic willow]

Base dawn....

[tender horizon]

I did same with moltres using lodge silver and rosa

[heavy sinew]

fr?

hit the gas fissure when dena

[stuck mantle]

But absol post it was fissure then after he post its no fissure

Only way if i get or we now

Soon we get volo and if nobody get fissure mean no fissure

11 moves only its big chance get it

[heavy sinew]

it was prob a mistake

either way its a 1% chance

[true tartan]

the chance of fissure is the same

the others are the ones that get even on it

[stuck mantle]

We can only check it

Maybe he have or not

But 1% is just % less moves is still more chance get it then more moves

[true tartan]

that's not how it works

the chances in the game are set by values

[stuck mantle]

Its game stdk

Dont belive in %

[true tartan]

you only need to know that it is a 1% in chances

"how it is calculated" is just that

random, if you're lucky enough, you get it 😛

[heavy sinew]

is volo today

oh shit he is

uhhhhhhhh

i dont got my phone

[pearl beacon]

Fianlly my boy gible 📈

Just need to farm lodge nown

[stuck mantle]

200 done

[bitter gate]

what did it cost

lol

[wise raven]

Ez Latias bully

[stuck mantle]

36,6k gems

🙃

Yeap easy

[robust nymph]

Move level?

[true tartan]

so, Volo does have Fissure

someone got it

[stray sandal]

So one hit ko?

[wise raven]

5/5 with EX role because of favoritism

[bitter gate]

MUAHAHAHAHAHA

@stuck mantle

The deed is done

[stuck mantle]

Nice but snow did it befor

And in lg in lg

[bitter gate]

Did snow finish the regi solo?

[stuck mantle]

Yes

Not regirock

But reggisteel he did

[bitter gate]

It's not in the list tho

[stuck mantle]

A then it was regirock😂

They all same for me🤣

[bitter gate]

He did Regirock

Not registeel

[stuck mantle]

Nice registeel

And vigi?

[bitter gate]

Vigi?

[stuck mantle]

Lucky skill you use?

[bitter gate]

Cs2

I need it to kill reliably

I just got really lucky with flinches

[stuck mantle]

Lol this is base on luck flinch

Can be done no 10 energy?

[bitter gate]

Needs 10 energy with tech

[stuck mantle]

Then not for me

I need sync orbs for hse and solos😂

Cant spend just random

And for wat he need this 10?

[true tartan]

:T

[stuck mantle]

T?

[bitter gate]

https://youtu.be/HQr6mc5iE1Y

to the list it goes, sixth solo

[karmic willow]

Can flannery and ninetails duo bulu?

[bitter gate]

can't bulu already solo itself

[karmic willow]

Oops

Meant to say flannery

Think imma dump flannery to bulu

That status shield is annoying

[true tartan]

wonder how you came with the idea of this solo

but nice, good to see it done

damage rush solos are so fun for me

that sound increase at the end so we can hear Registeel's last words

[karmic willow]

@sturdy steeple how would you rate this? Is it good?

It's so sad my hilda not 3/5

Otherwise it would have been a solo

[stuck mantle]

You are realy madman nice bro:) crazy hehe

[karmic willow]

Then again

Bruno works

[main ruin]

Isn't HS1 the best cookie for quite a few pairs

Like Cress

[bitter gate]

@true tartan now time for this

I think it's doable

If I play my cards right

Needs copious mprs probably

[true tartan]

lol

[bitter gate]

Yeah I think I shouldn't have wasted protect

For the shadow ball

Save it for crit thunder

Cause last bar is a lot squishier

[bitter gate]

I was so excited I accidentally raised my volume

Oops

[true tartan]

I know

it was a joke over it haha

[bitter gate]

it was a coincidence because I wanted to screenshot it

but it also uses my volume bar

[true tartan]

yeah, like most android phones

[stuck mantle]

Finaly got him

[bitter gate]

so what's his body count atm

3?

[stuck mantle]

Jesus kill him befor hyper is hard

I did 4

Entei you need crazy luck bar 3 whit all aditional efects

Or just fissure it

Whent entei 35% bar 3

[worthy horizon]

i'm not aware of the applications, no

[stuck mantle]

😢

This stupid hyper beams

Volo suks dont have flinch or potions

[bitter gate]

its a content specific cookie

[worthy horizon]

i've seen the mentions in ultimate battles like palmer which makes sense

but they mentioned cress in the next message which lost me

[inner turret]

In LG it has a very specific use case

for the Lodge Marnie + Janine vs Cobalion, apparently one of them needs either it or Adrenaline to win

[bitter gate]

see

HS isn't shit even in LG

[worthy horizon]

lol

[inner turret]

[true tartan]

[stuck mantle]

So wat volo got stdk?

Any others clears?

[karmic willow]

Is machamp strike worth it?

[inner turret]

lmfao no

[karmic willow]

Think imma just

Do this for leeway

Rei is gonna get ex'd next week

Which is good news

[stray sandal]

Can you stop bulu from getting Accuracy by flinching? Or you have to nuke it

[karmic willow]

skip the damn bar

with nuke

[wise raven]

he can get uxie if he can land zap cannon/inferno early and uxie misses iron tail(s) but i dont have energy to do that again

[stray sandal]

Brother can you please link your homework again 😂need to plan earlier this time

[karmic willow]

i'm bad

@bright brook tina + N with Spring May + Piers... interesting choice

then again

my May is 4/5 (for some reason)

so

i might think about it

[karmic willow]

Yeah

I might ship it

@bright brook you are a genius you know that?

[bright brook]

Appreciate it

Although i may not use this comp again this time bc my tina is now EXed

[karmic willow]

then

if piers and tina are out

who to combo with N?

[bright brook]

Idk yet

Probably my 1/5 penny

My N is also 1/5

Or 2 eggs

[karmic willow]

1/5 penny...

despite how "bad" it might be

i am seriously thinking putting her against registeel

jk lol

or penny with

some competent sp.atk

like SS elesa

who has trouble setting up her own crit

thunder is not that reliable

and you can most certainly die

to uhhh

brutal swings

another option would be to just

penny and serena

pal serena at that

that way i can save my burgh for something else

oh right

B U R G H

damn

no wait actually he works

@bright brook spring burgh 1/5

[bright brook]

Sure

Yea that might work

[karmic willow]

Worth the upgrade

Now i want sharp entry 1 on pal serena

@bright brook give N vigilance and he will be cooking

Spring burgh does not die if you get 1 lucky thunder and max defense from his gacha roll

[bright brook]

Im not using this comp since i plan to solo entei with spring burgh

But thanks tho

[thick dawn]

entei?

[bright brook]

Yea

Mine is 2/5

[thick dawn]

entei is not in the upcoming LG

[bright brook]

Oof i meant registeel

[thick dawn]

i see lol

[bright brook]

For some reasons i kept saying entei bc of LG6

[karmic willow]

yeah

soloing registeel is nice

too bad i can't do that

[bright brook]

Think about it like

You dont have to do that

Iirc it was really bad

[karmic willow]

but

oh well

easy living

speaking of that

how hard is bp clemont solo on tornadus?

pretty sure skill gears shit on him

[hallow gull]

[chrome halo]

egg op

[stuck mantle]

Lol

Cooking befor hse🤣

[karmic willow]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/10101/49201?s=3&l=150&r=6&p=0&a=18040802&g=AAECAwQFFRgZICIjJSksLS8

i love how this is a thing

next month you know i'll get that +10 energy asap

[stuck mantle]

And why you need friend in mend?

[karmic willow]

body slam

i am too tired of that

it's stupid

[stuck mantle]

Hmm its rosa so need spend:)

[karmic willow]

where support ex role

imma add that to the solo doc

because nobody has max investment solo yet

[heavy granite]

What is N move level?

[worthy gate]

@stuck mantle hows bolo i saw your solos

[stuck mantle]

Volo. Hmm he suks and he is top in same time

If you get lucky whit moves and aditional effect when you need he is good if not he suks badly

Since you cant use wat you need

[nimble cargo]

I mean a metronome user would never have a consistent move set

[hallow gull]

https://youtu.be/1ONkAYy7uyk?si=jTa336DRxdXhS05d

Idk what i’m doing but +5 PMUN save me

[worthy gate]

very fun kit indeed

how many solos so far

[karmic willow]

anyways

@stray sandal

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1im1-oNfaj4cL0sRa4jUtwVJWQQv9SVB1TtaZN--xPOE/edit#gid=0

You did ask for the doc

@hallow gull new link new doc. I removed some clears i am no longer comfortable with because i need to make sure i can win

You will see triple sleep chains

because i'm bad and i don't wanna learn sleep duos yet XD

unless it's something i can get behind like Bugsy

ball guy solo bulu is back on the table

[stuck briar]

Guys, what is the gimmick of registeel? I forgot

Tornadus need negative status right? Bulu need flying weak

[karmic willow]

lower it's defense

[karmic willow]

tornadus needs paralyze

Bulu is DPS check

Bulu (easiest). Flying Poison Grass Registeel (DC2 + MG2 + Flinch/Sleep). Fighting Tornadus (Para Hax + Synchro Healing). Electric

realistically

if you can debuff tornadus enough

and get synchro healing

he deadass cannot kill you

brute force works but

only a few duos can actually do that

tornadus bar 3 is actually not scary at all

bar 2's fly will shut down duos that cannot handle him fast enough

[stuck briar]

Tornadus can use piercing blows?

Thanks so Bulu is just dps

[modest oar]

All Piercing Blows go to Tornadus

[karmic willow]

@sturdy steeple can you suggest for me like, a replacement for marowak on either Marowak + Volkner vs Tornadus or Marowak + Mallow vs Bulu?

[sturdy steeple]

you can use like sandslash or dugtrio

[karmic willow]

yeah...

thing is both of them do feel like a waste because x speed all

trying to cope

nidoking

oh yeah baby nidoking is in the house

[stuck briar]

Thanks

[pearl beacon]

It's just abt practice but nothing too fancy or hard
I'll expand the sleepo doc with a clears tab
So ppl can check patterns and effective teams

[chrome halo]

That sounds good

[pliant glen]

https://vxtwitter.com/Luri_Choucho/status/1773680780843033024

[modest oar]

No EXR?

[pliant glen]

EX R hope you have Tech cakes to spare

Grid is shown in the replies with the EX R unlocked

Stoic LS so no nat crit allowed probably

Might be able to do it without Tech EX but it'll be harder since the sides do so much damage if they aren't removed quickly

[pearl beacon]

Creepy meerkat won

Nice so she's at 4 solos

[karmic willow]

eyyyy lmao

mayziken is insane

like

duo with the omastar and

you'd still have enough gauge to move around

awesome

thank god i have a 3 bar flincher like that lying around

aerodactyl is too fast

so no

[pearl beacon]

Ye, she's damn extremely fast, also boost team speed
omastar n perserrker are probably the only flinchhmon without speed buffs, but at least the latter got mgr2

Oh also alakazam

[pliant glen]

Alakazam has health regen which effectively adds gauge

[pearl beacon]

Yup

[karmic willow]

alakazam...

i am doing

Alakazam, Arcanite Blue and Roxanne

that team NEEDS max speed to cook

it's impossible to duo with him

okay but what if

Cynthia

and Grant

Cynthia has innate -4

@bright brook okay but let me cook

[bright brook]

I mean you dont even need him to move so just run vigil

[pliant glen]

Just proc infinite Obstructs

And TM MPRs

Honestly yeah you cooked

Now prepare to rest for Body Slam Paralysis instead of avoiding it...

[karmic willow]

Block infinitely

But

The thing is

I need to block more for

Def drops

I honestly got a real shot at this

If i can flinch both earthquakes

Zinnia lives freely

It deals enough damage