Trainer Lodge

[void lintel]

Someone repeatedly insisted that beyond a certain friendship threshold, the Hot Topic auto-reveals without the specs
Serena is FriendLv70, and nope

(That expression tho)

[orchid glade]

yep its just a random chance of showing it

[void lintel]

Going back to just using specs, then

[carmine sedge]

Those eyes tho

[void lintel]

It's in the flesh

[clear beacon]

It feels impossible to get +10 chest and +4 in two other stats without boosts
The only way I can think of for such a team to be possible would be:
Using team B
One 1-6 unit
One 0-4 unit
One +3 chest unit with -2 in the colour matching the 1-6 unit, other -2 not matching any units
Three +2 chest units with -2 in the colour not matching any units
And all 6 units being in the same region

Masked Royal, Steven, Lillie, Maxie, Wally, and Noland is the closest I can get
But of course Masked Royal isn’t Hoenn, so strike is only +3 instead of +4

[void lintel]

...Why would you want +4 in the other three all at once though

Two Rare Cache teams give me more than enough silver crystals

Of all three colors

Let's see...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012298913279127582/1014884761715621918/2CacheDrop.png

One Lv10 Rare Cache team gives... 763.2 average silver crystals of each color per day

Two of those will be a bit over 1500 silvers of each color

Six juices are 600 silvers, leaving 900+ of all three colors left over

It costs 3000 silvers to buy six silver gifts a day (presuming the guest never drops out of the convo before you give it to them)
900 x3 is 2700, just below that.
So you could almost manage juices and gifts on Rare Caches alone (i.e. with all other colors at level zero) if you cycle guest colors

[clear beacon]

I have reached 99,999 on all three silver
And having just about all lodge units I have at level 100 (working on Serena)
So I figured that I would only need 600 of each silver each day to keep up with the “+1 new lodge unit every month”, and silver only spawn outside of chests after a colour reaches 4 or more
So in short, 4 of all three colours (2 on one team and 1 on another) would make sure I am able to keep all 3 silver colours at max in case I get bad silver RPG from the chests

Is it needlessly complicated? Yes
Is it an issue that I can’t make a team built that I am interested in? No
Why did I post the message? Because I was getting annoyed that I was 1 point from having a satisfying team (like having an itch that you can almost scratch but can’t), and because I was curious if anyone knew how to get “+10 chest with +4 in 2 colours”
That is all, sorry if it looks like I’m being crazy over nothing

[void lintel]

It's only a problem if you leave your regular colors at 0/0/0 for both teams though

I feel like just having a red team and a blue team, plus including a yellow team during seasonals, should be more than enough

[clear beacon]

Yeah, the important thing for me is having chest at 10 without the need to cheer or use boosts
That way I can get the most amount of chests even if I forget to apply a new boost

[void lintel]

There just aren't enough yellow users to really need a yellow team the whole time

And chests generate more than two-and-a-half times as many silvers of each color as you'd need for Juices

You'd sooner win the lottery than get RNG-shafted that hard

Your stockpile would build way faster than it could plausibly deplete

[clear beacon]

Ok, good to know that I would need to be “struck by lighting” type of unlucky to make a net loss on a single silver colour after 24 hours

[void lintel]

Even if you had a net loss in 24 hours, you'd have net gains in the previous and the next 24 hours

[clear beacon]

Yeah, and boost items to use when buying silver gifts

Also with the situation I am in now, I only need +1 in each colour to satisfy the “1200 of each bronze spent daily whilst I work on the new unit of the month” and then spend the rest of the month saving up bronze
It just would have been satisfying if I was able to get that number to +4 for my own satisfaction, can’t win them all unfortunately

[brave gulch]

Probably just the person got lucky and small testing sample size

Hell even at 100+ where I did empty interaction with may, sometimes she doesn't give me hot topic

[brave gulch]

This is where u stockpile the items that use silver as reserves, at least that's what I do

[clear beacon]

Right

[brave gulch]

Personally I just buy feel ring and boost juice in large amounts down to 50k silver

It's gonna get use in the future anyways for new sync pair in lodge

[void lintel]

Ugh, I tried using Feel Rings again recently and got awful results

If they didn't magnify the Hot Topic rate on turns where there is zero Attention loss, I'd love them

[clear beacon]

I use to buy feel rings, but I changes it to juice boxes because I had more instances of having to reset the interaction just because the max vibes wouldn’t activate
Plus realising that feel ring isn’t really that useful after getting Max Vibes because the way it’s structured +10 interaction is worth more post-Max Vibes than +7 on-topic

[void lintel]

Depends on current Attention%, really

So that situation could chance on the turn after you give a gift to replenish Attention

e.g. if your gift refilled it all the way to 100%... 7pt on-topic would have half the chance for the conversation to end compared to 10pt off-topic

I'd give 3pts for that

[pale cedar]

an early attention save also pays off on every future topic by adding that 3% to each one, relatively

so I think early you value hot topics and late you value points

But I’m unsure where you draw the line

[void lintel]

Yeah, it's a bit hazy past the first attention drop (and the next attention drop post-gift)

[wispy fiber]

It eventually becomes red. I only just learned it changes colors very recently so idk when it changed at what lv. Apparently it becomes yellow at 100. Does it become green before red at a point?

[void lintel]

...Was there a particular reason you stopped at 999?

There should be more colors after red

[wispy fiber]

Because 999/999 looked pleasing to stop at before resuming after I got other lodge visitors to 100 for their lodge alts.

Though I kinda just want to keep going tbh haha. Are there more colors datamined?

[void lintel]

Up to rainbow.

I kinda wanna know if rainbow is in fact the Lv1000 color

[wispy fiber]

Ah

I'll confirm it tonight then.

[void lintel]

Here's the sheet of Lodge Guest frames

Lv1: Bronze
Lv50: Silver
Lv100: Gold
Lv200: Green
Lv300: Blue
Lv???: Purple
Lv???: Orange
Lv???: Red
Lv???: Rainbow

[cold ferry]

Rainbow is 1000 I would think

[next sorrel]

So then rainbow would be the highest border to achieve then?

[little walrus]

@void lintel the sunglasses thing appears to be luck based as mentioned, with serena done i tested on 550 pair and went 19/20 no glasses required

The rate must slowly increase

As the pair gets higher

Need 999 cynthia guy to test lol

[void lintel]

Serena is Lv80 now
I will try one more time tomorrow
If it still doesn't work, I'm just going to say you have had lottery-winning luck with it and just keep buying specs

[little walrus]

So after a certain point glasses not needed

I think pre 100 too early and I got lucky

Although some guy on reddit hitting 100% success around 80

I definitely got a ??? Round at 550

Today

Just 1 though

Who knows what the game uses to generate rng for that number

Like I said ask 999 cynthia to run some tests

Ill slowly track through the month as she goes up

[wispy fiber]

What are you testing specifically?

[little walrus]

Glasses usage rate

It appears as the pair goes ip

Up you no longer need sunglasses

The rate of topic reveal

[wispy fiber]

ah

I've always used specs, juice, and shovels.

[little walrus]

I was using sunglasses every day prior to this week

Someone made a thread on reddit

I tested and got very lucky with rates apparently

Rates are good enough to where it makes no sense to use them at least on my 500 marnie

https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonMasters/comments/zarbm9/trainer_lodge_observation/

I do not know author

[flat lantern]

How do you guys use the boosters? I wait until you have less % or do you use it immediately after max vibes to secure the extra points?

[cold ferry]

i wonder if it works with other items, or do items effects with needing the item at other levels

[little walrus]

@cold ferry thats a good point

Would explain why I get hot topic so often first hot topic choice with no boost juice

And recently a lot of runs burn the max hot topics in first few questions

Could be invisbly turning on all items at higher levels

[cold ferry]

wouldnt this be dayamiend

datamined

[little walrus]

No clue

[maiden haven]

next thing she will start giving herself gifts

[little walrus]

The glasses one is obvious test a few times you’ll get free glasses

[maiden haven]

the shovel would be obvious too

[little walrus]

True

I’ll specifically test shovel tomorrow

[maiden haven]

but you are risking

[little walrus]

No risk

[maiden haven]

it's like 1 or 2% to lose

unless you do 2 phone magic

[little walrus]

Ill whip out the magic and test it tomorrow

👍

[maiden haven]

alright scientist, i will look forward to the results

[cold ferry]

so level 75 automatically reveals hot topic all the time right?

[little walrus]

No

[maiden haven]

not all the time, sometimes

[little walrus]

Thats disproven

[maiden haven]

my highest is near 400 but not quite

[little walrus]

I was getting maybe 75% on tests today at 100

But at 500+

[maiden haven]

I'm finishing Serena's rewards before going back

[little walrus]

It was 19/20

I did only 20 tests

Which is not good representation

[maiden haven]

hope they add new vanity stuff at high friendship

character customization is a perfect reward without punishing others

[little walrus]

I will say this I wont be using glasses at higher levels seems like no point

[maiden haven]

i will stop using them once I get back to Elesa

[cold ferry]

hopefully character custom comes with torchic grid

[maiden haven]

Torchic customization

[little walrus]

If there is an auto shovel tomorrow going to be kind of disgusted

[maiden haven]

it's probably preparation for EX Solga

where he will give us new options instead

[cold ferry]

Means by March 25th we have all grids if james and jeesies aint ignored. This is in the next update right (around 25th-27th)

[maiden haven]

they probably will ignore them

sadly

[maiden haven]

earlier

december datamines are very early, often before Christmas

[cold ferry]

was this the case for 2020 Chrismas/Lillie alt 2

cause like when was thay

[maiden haven]

i have no idea but has to be before December 25th

and likely after 21st

[cold ferry]

I would think because of chrismas

[maiden haven]

because 25th is the last day with login rewards

so they need to supply new ones

[cold ferry]

though the important stuff is before the 18th besides anni rerun (a rerun)

[maiden haven]

and some of these days are holidays in Japan too probably

[cold ferry]

in fact everything after the 15th (Whintey) Is a rerun

[maiden haven]

doesn't matter, end of month is often reruns

i just hope their idea of player customization isn't like 3 styles to choose from

because with DeNa you can't be sure

[cold ferry]

player customization is coming in the next update rigjt

[maiden haven]

yep

[cold ferry]

with the christmas thing the 18th to the 21st as well

[mortal shard]

Credits to Zamcio for the infographs https://twitter.com/zamcio/

[wispy fiber]

Rainbow is indeed at 1000. Also did 20 tries with no specs. 8 of those did not show hot topic.

[sharp bramble]

24 more levels until I’m done with Serena

Then it’s Cynthia time all the time

[orchid glade]

I finished Serena today on my one account

now to finish Raihan then done

[carmine sedge]

Welp, that's one full week now that Serena dropped me at an attention rate on the range of 80%

I seriously wanna die right now

She's much worse than Silver and Blue

[golden skiff]

Hoopa turning this into a normal Pokemon Cave

[icy wagon]

I always thought interesting topic > exciting buildup 😅

[dense saddle]

Sigh

[late sluice]

we love the even 200
we hate being mere pixels from level 75

[void lintel]

Thanks for testing!

[brave gulch]

That's nearly half that's not auto shown hot topic

Far from guaranteed, Reddit fake news agn

[void lintel]

Yeah, I'm gonna just keep using specs

[sudden forum]

Anyone know what Expedition Skills: Jasmine and Whitney will have?
I just noticed I need to update Maelmc's doc.

[void lintel]

I think I saw it in Absol's Twitter but I don't trust my memory

[finite dock]

Serena left super early today 😭

Level 89 friendship isn't a guarantee for tomorrow

What lucky skill should fletching use?
Defense crush?

[sudden forum]

If Fletchling is going to be syncing to provide damage: Critical Strike 2
If Fletchling is going to be a utility for another damage dealer (Pecking Order/Cakewalk) than either Defense Crush 2 or Mind Games 2 are options for it.

[devout stratus]

How can I use trainer's bonuses ? Are they used auto when i select interact?

(i'm talking about the presents)

[random cloud]

There’s a specific “Give Present” button when in an interaction

[devout stratus]

Oh i see, ok thank you

[little walrus]

Only had time to do 20 tests need more info before even attempting to comment on invisible sunglasses. Anyone have a sheet of ranges of lost percentages per question

I will say it appears any item can be given randomly invisibly at start

Using no items 20 runs Q3 had a range of % 5-11

20 runs with glasses had a range 4%-11 on Q3

Obviously on topic decreases less than not on topic

But not enough runs to create that considering half runs end at Q3

Feel like 200 runs minimum before I can make a comment no guarantee when info will be processed as this takes forever

[carmine sedge]

This is the 8th day in a row now, Serena hates me, doesn't she?

[shrewd gorge]

She finished with me at 94% today so I wish I got your result lol

[carmine sedge]

Oh please, she dropped me 8 days in a row at above 80% attention

Like literally, the attention didn't even drop to 79%

[shrewd gorge]

Damn that is awful

She’s really playing hard to get, isn’t she

[carmine sedge]

She pissed that I got her in the very first multi

[shrewd gorge]

OH okay then

I’d rather have the first multi master fair luck than any sort of TL luck lmfao

This is def payback for not having to sink gems into her banner

[carmine sedge]

That's kinda true

[swift vine]

Bruh it’s 8th topic and i still dont get any hobbies option lol

[graceful granite]

First time hitting 0

[hollow kiln]

A big leap

[mortal shard]

Credits to Zamcio for the infographs https://twitter.com/zamcio/

Credits to Zamcio for the infographs https://twitter.com/zamcio/

[runic plaza]

I have officially run out of lodge pairs to earn (for the rest of the year)

Also my 200th Sync Pair? It is a tiny bird

[mild edge]

Serena left me on 3rd interaction…okay cool

[orchid glade]

I wish they added two a month, as we run out of pairs to do quickly

[brave gulch]

Wasn't expecting that

[dusky finch]

Thanks game

[analog furnace]

I may sound crazy, and I probably am, but I actually think I just claimed and opened 64 lodge chests twice

I opened both teams’ chests, exchanged for gifts, and then 20m later checked again to see one team’s was seemingly unopened

I got more resources to exchange with again etc

[inland axle]

They simply found 64 more chests in that 20m period

[analog furnace]

Totally

I also feel like it was almost exactly what I previously received

[analog furnace]

Did it right before reset

[sharp bramble]

8 more levels to go

[wide tiger]

3 more days i think

[mortal shard]

Credits to Zamcio for the infographs https://twitter.com/zamcio/

[past cargo]

Finally it happened

[wide tiger]

https://i.4cdn.org/vg/1670490326807115.jpg

wow mad

the border actually changes

[orchid glade]

crazy you over 1k?

[wide tiger]

not me xD

but

people are sharing their madness in vg xd

[quasi sigil]

[maiden haven]

that's Mr.Kenshin

[shrewd gorge]

/lodge Serena

[mortal shard]

Credits to Zamcio for the infographs https://twitter.com/zamcio/

[coral merlin]

Ah speaking of Serena, found a bug where her face is closed and being happy. Happened when I gave her a gift.

[carmine sedge]

It always happens to me

[void lintel]

It's not the worst face on her

That would be this one

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012298913279127582/1049372150617882684/Screenshot_20221205-120857.png

(Her face wasn't stuck like this, though. I just had weird timing grabbing a screenshot)

[coral merlin]

It never happened to other lodge characters but the face bug only happen to Serena.

Kind of strange

[void lintel]

There was that small update to fix a battle animation bug... Maybe that introduced this bug?

[carmine sedge]

Reminds me of Hugobaby69's PFP

[coral merlin]

Maybe.

[void lintel]

Serena dropped the conversation before I could give her a gift for the past... three days in a row for me, so I haven't seen the gift face bug yet

[coral merlin]

I think only happens to the Awesome gift.

No results on the other gift types.

[maiden haven]

what did you gift her...

[runic plaza]

I'm building an army...

[void lintel]

Nothing. For one thing, this was a test for the "you don't need Specs" thing (and you can see the hot topic is "???" so it was disproven)
And, well, as I said, she's been leaving at or before the gift threshold for the past three days or so

[wispy fiber]

Yep. I didn't know either till a couple days ago haha. Never looked at the invite screen till recently really. It was a neat crimson red before 1k as posted further up. There's other colors too.

[wispy fiber]

That anon probably saw my post in here or on twitter lol

[wide tiger]

Ill 1k Cynthia after no more pairs to 100

[mild edge]

Guess I’m outta units

[carmine sedge]

After 10 days, I finally have her

[carmine sedge]

Lance showing off his Dragonite to a bunch of kids

[sharp bramble]

OF COURSE RIGHT AT THE FINISH LINE SHE DOES THIS

[carmine sedge]

Now you feel my pain

[mortal shard]

Credits to Zamcio for the infographs https://twitter.com/zamcio/

[grizzled pagoda]

From yesterday forgot to post. Am at 97/100 now

[random portal]

I now have serena and fletching.... now i'm stuck in purgatory on getting 10 interactions.

[void lintel]

...Why tho

[random portal]

Because i finished everyone

No point in using 6 interactions a day if all i'm getting are lodge stones.

[brave gulch]

Just do 6 interactions with nothing to slowly build on a sync pair

[runic plaza]

Me using all six at once because no way I'm doing 6 separate interactions ever again

At worst I'll be sustained until February if they only add Pokefairs I don't own

[coral merlin]

Ok so remember yesterday Serena’s face was bugged from gifting gifts? Well it’s now confirmed it is indeed the awesome gift that does it.

[void lintel]

Somewhere, a certain Rhyhorn Racer is muttering "I told you that if you kept making that face, it'll get stuck like that someday."

[random cloud]

If I’m not wrong, it’s 1 innately, then 2 from item, correct?

[devout igloo]

Sorry thought +2 bonus and 2 innately

Brw

Btw*

[night tide]

Funnily a good interaction with her

[devout igloo]

Should I go for +10 treasure instead of +9?

Like does it change that much for the rewards

[random cloud]

Generally should try to go for 10 if you can

[void lintel]

https://tinyurl.com/2c36ujw6

It makes a bigger difference than you might expect, since it increases the drop rate on all three cache types

[devout stratus]

Anyone can help me out to build 2 teams for expeditions?

[north moat]

I think some teams have been…inaccurate.

At least for the rare cache ones I’ve been trying to do.

I have not been able to get to rare cache 10 even tho the doc says it should be 10

[devout stratus]

Yes same annie

[north moat]

Also I saw this a long time ago, and I cannot remember if I ever ended up asking

[void lintel]

I think some teams have been…inaccurate.
At least for the rare cache ones I’ve been trying to do.
I have not been able to get to rare cache 10 even tho the doc says it should be 10
Which one(s)?

[void lintel]

The sheet is updated regularly, IIRC; if there was an inaccuracy in a team, I suspect it would've been corrected by now...

Is it possible you were putting the team into the wrong slot?

Team Slot A and Team Slot B have different starting stats

[hollow kiln]

After getting Serena, then I’ll use 1 interaction per day for her. For everyone else, I’ll use 10 interactions at once.

[void lintel]

y tho

[brave gulch]

It's actually hard to get 2 teams to lv 10 rare cache without ss lusamine or ssr cynthia huh

[quasi sigil]

Now what am I gonna do for the rest of the month

[hollow kiln]

Almost there

[mortal shard]

Credits to Zamcio for the infographs https://twitter.com/zamcio/

[north moat]

I didn’t know you responded, I haven’t gotten a chance to get screenshot proofs.

But all the cache teams that claim to get 10 for team B have either gotten to 8 or 9, but not 10.

[sharp solar]

Mind providing specific examples? Team comps at least, before you screenshot it in play

[north moat]

Yeah, lemme see what I can try.

Ok so team here is supposed to be 9 blue, 10 cache.

Team B btw

[sharp solar]

Isn't it?

[north moat]

The cheer is on, which is why I sent the details

[sharp solar]

Yeah, but where's the extract?

[north moat]

Oh, I see, the extract. Man, no wonder I got confused, it’s hard af to read this doc on mobile. ^^;

[north moat]

Yeah I’m no good at Lodge whatsoever tbh

[sharp solar]

You're fine, not your problem poma players can't read

[north moat]

[random portal]

[blazing sapphire]

Mystery solved. Blue is bad.

[carmine sedge]

Damn, even May who I'm done talking to is more talkative than Serena

[iron lodge]

why no multipliers

you could get more with gifts

[carmine sedge]

Eh, I just did 1 for the daily mission, gonna save the 10 somewhere else even if my luck will be bad, I've got nothing to lose anyways

[sharp bramble]

FINALLY

Cynthia time now

[iron lodge]

[river temple]

Is it honestly that bad that i just wing lodge

Idk topics but how detrimental is it

[void lintel]

Probably a lot

For what it's worth, it's not as complicated as it looks. I can't speak for everyone, but I get a feel for which topics are best after around two or three days with that character

They're rarely particularly difficult to guess-- very few characters are interested in stuff not related to them or their regions

e.g. there's like one person whose favorite Fashion topics include an item they're not currently wearing

[inland axle]

Hello gigafreak

[north moat]

Nah, you got plenty of time.

[void lintel]

Depends, a little. Like, Serena's Lodge pair came in handy for me against Tapu Bulu, in the current Gauntlet.
I was able to use Silver's Lodge Pair against Entei, too (I tried Rosa's and May's but couldn't make them work; there are probably ways to make them work, but they were probably tied up in other teams)
N's Lodge pair can do sleep shenanigans. Tapu Bulu (once again) never gains immunity to it.

And more Supports (Cynthia, Blue, Elesa, maybe Raihan) can help you fill gaps

And the current gauntlet ends in 4 days.
I don't know whether they wanted to do a 12+ streak in there, but... it's one of the things where proper Lodge-ing would help, and is even time-sensitive

[quasi sigil]

I used so many lodge pairs vs Entei lol

Blue, Silver, Rosa, May

Elesa went to Tornadus, Sycamore and N went to Bulu. the rest I either don't have or didn't use

[sinful ridge]

-Lv. 1: Bronze
-Lv. 50: Silver
-Lv. 100: Gold
-Lv. 200: Green
-Lv. 300: Blue
-Lv. 400: Purple
-Lv. 500: Orange
-Lv. ???: Red
-Lv. 1000: Rainbow

[wooden marsh]

Rainbow is Lv 1000, Red is before that but not sure the exact level

[sinful ridge]

Updated.

[sharp bramble]

Between 500 and 1k huh

[orchid glade]

So maybe there is Platinum next

[void lintel]

A platinum frame? I don't think so; it looks like we've found all the frames from the image files

[plain nova]

yeah that's all and it'll probably take a few years to get the highest frame for all the lodge pairs anyway

[void lintel]

If indeed it's even plausible to catch up to one-per-month

That'd require 30-40 friend levels every day

[runic plaza]

My average is like 12 friend levels a day

[void lintel]

Yeah, that's the problem

[sinful ridge]

So we'd need a dataminer to look into what Borders are unlocked at what Friend Lv.

[void lintel]

Well, we don't need one anymore if someone finds the threshold for the red frame

Since we found all the others already

[hollow kiln]

I think the max friendship level is infinite

[void lintel]

It's 9,999,999
(Which would require longer than a human lifespan to reach, let alone this game's lifespan)

[night tide]

Or insane luck lel

[void lintel]

I wonder what the theoretical maximum is, with perfect RNG and a gold gift on every single run

There are 65 convo options (9 topics x 7 options in each topic = 63, plus 2 more from the location). 21 turns, minus the gift turn, is 20 turns

190 points from combo alone. With Max Vibes on the final two turns, add another 18+19.
227 pts from combo

This'd mean not using Boost Juice or the Feel Ring, but we're just going to pretend the RNG is still perfect

Going to need Hot Topic picks for several turns, up to Turn 17 (where it enters Max Vibes)

Marnie has the most 10pt topics, but someone like Cynthia can get a Hot Topic with six 10pt options via locational topics...

Using Cynthia as a template, with Places as the Hot Topic in the Lodge...
If we need all nine Hot Topics to last that long, that's six 10pts and three 7pts. 81pts total.
The other 11 turns can be 10pt ones from any topic, for 110pts more.
The last two turns will be doubled by Max Vibes for another two 10pts...
81+110+20 = 211pts from convo options

227+221 = 448pts. Gold gift multiplier is 1.3, and then six interactions...
3,494 pts per day. That's just barely faster than the pace we get new Lodge guests, at one per month.

[sharp solar]

1.5 from gold, 1.3 is silver

[void lintel]

Thanks, let me adjust

448 x 1.5 is 672 pts, and then x6 interactions = 4,032 pts. Just under 54 levels

[sharp solar]

672, not 899

[void lintel]

There is something very wrong with my mathing today

Thank you, editing

Ah, I was halfway into adding something else together and forgot about it, and that's where the error came from

[sharp solar]

I couldn't figure out how you got 899 - it's just slightly more than 448*2.

Usually it's something like "Multiplied by 2.5 instead of 1.5"

[void lintel]

I am now suddenly kinda glad that these numbers are extremely unlikely to be relevant to anyone in the first place

[analog furnace]

I’m unable to find a set of teams that I swear I had before for 10-x-x-10 & at least 9-x-x-10 for Fiery & Rare Cache

If anyone has that, lmk Bonus points for using less limited units on your teams, but still curious anyway

Rn it seems I’ve got 10/10 & 8/10, but that’s fine enough I suppose

[thick widget]

im also looking for an expedition team of team A that can max yellow and chest

dont have SSR Cynthia

[random portal]

New event.

[graceful granite]

Need og cynthia and Lucas for that ig

[thick widget]

I have Lucas but no OGCynthia :((

The only Cynthia i have is the one with Lucario

[shadow bramble]

Now that there's more units in Lodge, who is the best for grinding Lodge Stones?

[thick widget]

I think Marnie, May, Cynthia are the best lodge pairs to grind

They have many +10 topics

Tbh just grind with your fav

[shadow bramble]

So Lillie then

[brave gulch]

Honestly because I can't have a 10 in any colour and 10 on chest for team A, I just use the hoenn team

Not having SSR cynthia or SS lusamine is rough

If anyone has one that don't use them pls share

[void lintel]

Serena also has an above-average 10pt topic total

[void lintel]

Should still be doable if you have Masked Royal, I think

Team A (+1 yellow)
SSLeaf (+5 yellow)
Agatha or Lorelei (+3 yellow)
James (+2 rare)
SSMisty (+2 rare)
SSErika (+2 rare)
Masked Royal (+3 rare)
Omni Extract (+1 yellow and +1 rare)

Should be 1/10/1/10

[thick widget]

Oh thank you so much

[sinful ridge]

Got Rosa to the Green Border.

[void lintel]

Matches her Serperior

Blue would still match her Dewott and Red would still match her Delibird!

[sinful ridge]

Do we know what Level the Red Border is?

[void lintel]

I ran a search for "red" and got a lot of results talking about, err, this guy -->

Hm.

[sinful ridge]

I’m assuming it’d be 750, since it’s the halfway point between 500 (Orange) and 1000 (Rainbow).

[void lintel]

It might, but I get the feeling that each new border might be "pretending" to be the last

So a rounder number like 800 isn't out of the question

Or even just 600

700 is in a weird place of... not-as-round-ness

[brave gulch]

Thanks a lot for this

Do u happen to have a 10 blue and 10 rare cache for team B

Oh nvm I see one in the pinned doc

[void lintel]

There is only one known teamcomp that can do it so far

Unless you include Cheer bonus

There is a Halloween comp that can do it but Halloween is over

[brave gulch]

Well I'm gonna have to start thinking for a new team C when holiday area drop

[void lintel]

This time, Team C has Red+Rare bonuses
Could use Team A for Yellow+Rare and Team B for Blue+Rare and have all three colors

[brave gulch]

Yeah that's what I've done

Gonna have to figure out a red + rare cache for team C with rosanta and holiday jasmine

[void lintel]

Don't need them to have a red+rare team

Johto's Expedition lineup is kind of a disaster, at that

[spring cobalt]

Whats everyone doing while they wait for a new guest to drop? ( Do levels past 100 matter for anything but frames and lodge coins? )

Are you spending your dailies trying to max someone or spreading it around? Stockpiling golds for the next trainer or maxing rare caches?

[thick widget]

I grind lodge stone with my fav

[quasi sigil]

yeah this is also what I'm planning to do

[quasi sigil]

same

[thick widget]

Man i dont have SS Kris so i cant make a 10/10 team with blue and chest

Is there any team that can do 9/10 with blue and chest?

[void lintel]

Maxing rare caches because gold can buy extra friend levels (via 3 silver keys) somewhat more efficiently than tier4 can on its own (gold key)

Silver gifts are plenty

[void lintel]

Team B
Lillie, Gladion, and a +3blue Alola
Three more units with +2rare, which don't bite Blue
Omni Extract

[void lintel]

Now where's Raikou...

Rather who would have Raikou

[thick widget]

Anabel most likely

or SS Lyra (Thunderbolt)

[quasi sigil]

Raikou as a master support too pls

[thick widget]

Yay triple support doggos

We also have other support doggos

[night tide]

Anabel

[worldly ivy]

emerald anabel with support raikou let's goooooooooooo

then create a bonus event for lodge with all 3 of the legends

[hollow kiln]

Success!

[glad acorn]

When you unlocked all 12 pairs

Guess I need to find a pair to go 1000

[brave gulch]

Holding out my friendship keys for the eventual dawn in lodge

[mortal shard]

Credits to Zamcio for the infographs https://twitter.com/zamcio/

[dense saddle]

[carmine sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/serena-pokemon-serena-cute-amourshipping-gif-19349515

[mortal shard]

Credits to Zamcio for the infographs https://twitter.com/zamcio/

[languid lark]

Can team a get any better?

https://imgur.com/a/MDRAXf9

[thick widget]

Check the pins for team examples

[languid lark]

They all need limited pairs

For some reason Lillie and Bianca evade me forever

[keen stump]

That makes it a lot easier

Used 2 interaction extra and landed at 96 so i need 400, lets just say am preparing to post to salt channel tomorrow

[sick cedar]

I JUST GOT BACK INTO THIS, what the hell Silver?

[north moat]

I wish he was that nice to me when I started this

[little walrus]

500-699 is red orange

[void lintel]

700 is red, then. Thank you

[little walrus]

👍

as for the other thing #'s suggesting there are invisible copies of 1 or multiple items handed out each interaction (assuming the higher you get the more likely). As mentioned a week ago though collecting this info is exhausting as most runs end very early.

This also explains why my highest interactions are on NEW sync pairs before they hit 100 with late fevers turn 9+.
By the time you get deeper in the pair the game is auto funneling you rings/boost juice resulting in VERY early fever and topics burned at a high %

[glad acorn]

[glad acorn]

Wait, so that means the game intentionally sabotage your interaction the higher your affection level?

[graceful granite]

Wait there's a limit?

[cold ferry]

collect the expedition rewards

[thick widget]

Here is my team for the limited area. Can reach 10 red and 10 chest with rare extract or omni extract

I think a random +2 chest pair without lowering red and a +2 red can work, as long as they are Unovan

[glad acorn]

I don't think I noticed this a few days ago

[quasi sigil]

Ayo? I got a delibird instead

[glad acorn]

Gasp, that Iron Bundle is gonna bludgeon that Deerling

[flat snow]

Hey, what's a good yellow build?

[glad acorn]

Can be tricky. Do you have Lucas and SSRC?

[flat snow]

Redchu? Yeah.

[glad acorn]

I think team B should be easy to assemble

[sharp solar]

SSRC is SS Cynthia (Renegade)

[flat snow]

Not Kommo-o?

[sharp solar]

That's just SS Cynthia

[glad acorn]

That is SSC. But I guess I should call it SSCR

[flat snow]

It just says SS Cynthia on there though.

And I"m using Hau for my red team.

[sharp solar]

I'm referring to the earlier comment, which you confused for SSTRed

[glad acorn]

I put SSC there because I only have Giratina and not Kommo-o

And no, I don't have Lucario too

[flat snow]

I'm guessing I want Kanto for this?

Here's what I've got for it.

[glad acorn]

That looks good enough

[golden skiff]

Not sure what to do for the limited area, as I have everything covered by the other 2 teams.

[sharp solar]

Are those your A and B teams? I feel like you're losing consistency by grabbing one third-color pair

[thick widget]

do 3 chest team imo

[golden skiff]

How so?

[sharp solar]

First team has Grimsley to get yellow, yet it's just lvl 4, while you lose some red/blue mats. The higher the level, the more you get - one lvl 10 is worth many lvl 4s.

Second team has 9 rare cache without cheer, so you're not getting 10 cache more than half the time. Swap Blaine for a cache pair, use omni extract. Cache is more important.

[orchid glade]

I went 10 cache and yellow for the holiday event

so got two cache one red, blue and two yellow

[golden skiff]

Don't both rank 9 and 10 drop all 3 types of chest, so why would 1 more point matter?

[sharp solar]

Higher drop rates

As I said, you get much more from 9 -> 10 than from 1 -> 4.

[keen stump]

Two Charizards

[quasi sigil]

Not enough charizards

[orchid glade]

which is true the most popular starter and we just got two fairs

we need Mega Y Charizard and a shiny one

[quasi sigil]

Yeah. C'mon mega charizard X is overrated

[brave gulch]

Any interesting team on the special area

I'm just winging it with hoenn for now

[quasi sigil]

I used this, but replaced Emmet with Barry cause I don't have him

[orchid glade]

I just used whatever cache units I had left and did yellow

[brave gulch]

I went with red

Since I got a yellow + cache for A and blue + cache for B

[plain nova]

another great run today

[blazing sapphire]

What is the innate bonus of the christmas area?

[thick widget]

+1 red and +1 chest

[blazing sapphire]

Thanks

I hope Christmas Whitney has good lodge value

[little walrus]

@glad acorn intentionally sabotages in terms of reset farming interactions yes, does not affect normal play in most cases

[orchid glade]

not sure how you do 3 cache and a color 🤔

[keen stump]

Thank you Raihan

[orchid glade]

Gratz least you finished

[void lintel]

No. They said their highest scores were on new pairs, not that they get higher average scores on new pairs. It's the difference between 10 10 10 90 10 and 40 50 70 40 60
Higher levels (allegedly) stabilize the scores by (allegedly) giving you items for free, but this would reduce the likelihood of reaching a "jackpot" score since some items prevent you from reaching the (insanely improbable) game state necessary for such a score. Do you really think you can delay Max Vibes until Turn 10 with any kind of consistency? For that matter, do you really think you can reach turn 10 in the first place with any kind of consistency?

They have just plain not been using items, it seems.
It also would explain why they sometimes mention that so many of their Interactions end on turn 3-5. They're not using Boost Juice.

[glad acorn]

Serena is definitely more cooperative among the 12

[sharp bramble]

Uuuuuuuugh no idea what a good third team is

Just made a level 9 treasure and called it a day

[sharp solar]

Why not lvl 10?

[glad acorn]

I go with either 9 or 10

[sharp solar]

Stopping at 9 is just cutting resources away from yourself

[glad acorn]

It's mostly because I don't have the right pair to get the last tick. SS Gio, for example

I always try to go for 10-10 or 10-9

[brave gulch]

That's why I'm asking if anyone has done a 10 red and 10 cache for special area

I got jasmine and rosanta but I doubt it's possible

Actually hoenn is able to 10 red and 10 cache

I just want to see if there's possibly a better team

[orchid glade]

I think I have all the available cache units that are +3 and can't do more than 2

[carmine sedge]

Not to me

She really played hard to get on me

[void lintel]

I have a team that got 10/0/0/10 without even using an Extract

Selene
Olivia (but any +3red Alola will work)
Guzma
Plumeria
Hau
SSLusamine (but an off-region +2rare will still get you 10/1/1/10 without Cheer, if you use Omni Extract)

Teambuilding's simpler when you realize which regions can build teams for each color (and which regions can't)

[brave gulch]

Nice

[brave gulch]

Because u have to spread them out

My team A builds around kanto and masked royale

My team B is alolan and johto with ss giovanni

If u have all +3 cache it is much easier

[brave gulch]

Thanks again for this

[void lintel]

I actually use yellow extract on that team. I have a permanent blue team already, so yellow was the only tier1 and tier2 crystal that isn't basically permanently maxed for me (but still well over halfway to the max)

...Also, when the heck else am I going to use these yellow extracts from daily gifts

[brave gulch]

When lodge sync pair gives u any extract other than rare and omni extract : what the heck am I suppose to do with this

Can't even sell it

I just realised if hoenn actually have a +3 red it could do it as well

[sharp solar]

How do your Feel rings from daily gifts feel?

[glad acorn]

Blue + Chest still seems impossible

[brave gulch]

On team B it is possible

But yeah very limited

[void lintel]

If you liked it, then you should've put a ring on it
No wait
Not that ring
That ring sucks

[brave gulch]

I'm pretty sure I'm quite unlucky for the daily gifts since I haven't received a single candy coin yet

[void lintel]

Hm. What was the droprate on those again...?

[brave gulch]

0.5% per coin type

[void lintel]

I feel like it might be average-ish to still not have one

[brave gulch]

So 2%

[void lintel]

Oh, hm. That would put you a bit behind, huh

Average one in 50 days

[brave gulch]

Nah the trade off is my banner luck is definitely good

[void lintel]

I guess that'd be worth it

[brave gulch]

Besides I got the candy coin bundle everytime so all good

[wary wasp]

oh

i didn’t know it changed past 100

[void lintel]

Yeah, every 100 levels until 500. And then one more time at 700 and a final time at 1000

[glad acorn]

It's rather interesting that DeNA expected us to grind that high for a certain pair

[void lintel]

...Did they though

[flat lantern]

What changes?

[wary wasp]

compare silvers ring to the other two

it’s BLUE

[flat lantern]

Oh

[river temple]

Lillie vs rosa who is a better lodge unit overall

At 3/5 ofc

[tired raptor]

what to buy from expedition exchange?

[keen stump]

Can dena please add stat share to raihan and gigalith

[orchid glade]

well what do you use I would like 3 cache

[brave gulch]

Team A with omni extract :
SS leaf
SS misty (not swimsuit misty)
Lorelei
James
SS erika
Masked royale

Team B with rare extract :
Lillie
Lana
Plumeria
SS kris
SS Giovanni
Silver

Special area with omni extract:
Selene
Olivia
Guzma
Lusamine
Hau
Archie

Team B is in the pinned doc btw

[golden skiff]

Aww, Sawsbuck has come to check on their fawn

[orchid glade]

Interesting I have all of those will try it tomorrow

[void lintel]

If Jasmine is ever added to the Lodge, I'll be really surprised if Whitney's on her convo list and not 10pts

Like, I'd get it if Whitney's not on the list at all (our protag might just not know about it) but if she's on the list and not worth 10pts... o o f

It would be funny if Whitney is oblivious. For Jasmine to just be worth 7pts because she has no idea

[severe river]

Is the wintery location top tier for anyone?

Just checked, thanks pomatools

[tired raptor]

what to buy with lodgestones?

[quasi sigil]

Certificate of excellence

Is generally the best use for lodge stones since they're exclusive to lodge

[sharp solar]

Or sync orbs if you're new and low on them

[mortal shard]

Credits to Zamcio for the infographs https://twitter.com/zamcio/

[hollow kiln]

There’s a 2nd Pokémon besides Deerling?

[quasi sigil]

Yeah, Sawsbuck. Sometimes it's Delibird too

Whichever appears seems to be random I think

[tired raptor]

thanks you too. What does the certificate do?

[quasi sigil]

Unlocks level cap to 150

1 certificate = 1 extra level cap

[thick widget]

Since you are new, dont care about the certificate yet. Exchange for sync orbs and lodge pair dupes (especially the support ones)

[blazing sapphire]

Support dupes are the best use

[tired raptor]

which ones are the best to first unlock?

[thick widget]

I would say Blue

Crit support and flinch bot

[sharp bramble]

10 with extracts

[sharp solar]

Isn't it easier to make lvl 10 by default if you don't care about colors that much?

[sharp bramble]

Nah I still need colors

[mortal shard]

Credits to Zamcio for the infographs https://twitter.com/zamcio/

[nimble olive]

What's the best thing to do with interactions after you've got everyone to 100. Just raise one character really high?

[sharp solar]

Yup

Pick a fave

[sharp bramble]

Double Date

[night tide]

Calem and Serena hype

[mortal shard]

Credits to Zamcio for the infographs https://twitter.com/zamcio/

[hollow kiln]

I hope Gloria will join the lodge

[mortal shard]

Credits to Zamcio for the infographs https://twitter.com/zamcio/

[sinful ridge]

Thank you for this info.
So…

-Lv. 1: Bronze
-Lv. 50: Silver
-Lv. 100: Gold
-Lv. 200: Green
-Lv. 300: Blue
-Lv. 400: Purple
-Lv. 500: Orange
-Lv. 700: Red
-Lv. 1000: Rainbow

[void lintel]

Seems like it

[hard badger]

Who's the easiest blue to lodge with Rosa Lillies or Sycamore?

[random cloud]

There’s not really any noticeable difference

Just pick interaction order based on who your favorites are

[mortal shard]

Credits to Zamcio for the infographs https://twitter.com/zamcio/

[plain nova]

Last pair. 114 days for 12 pairs

[mortal shard]

Credits to Zamcio for the infographs https://twitter.com/zamcio/

[runic plaza]

Got Lillie to Blue Boarder. Still a long ways to go.

[visual remnant]

Serena gave a yellow candy coin today

The only one to give me a coin, and this is the second one

Serena best girl

[night tide]

Is it possible k get more than one max vibes?

[sharp solar]

No

[night tide]

Rip

Wow if only I had a gift for him this is my best ever lodge interaction

[keen stump]

What could they be talking about?

[runic plaza]

Guzma's therapy (he was hit with golf rackets...)

[glossy harbor]

What's the point to increasing the friendship level cap? And how high does it go exactly?

[thick widget]

To farm lodge stones

I believe the cap is 9,999,999

[glossy harbor]

How does increasing the FL cap get you more of those? I'm guessing interacting at high levels just gives you more per interaction?

[void lintel]

Each time you gain a FriendLv, you get 10 stones

100 stones buy a Certificate of Excellence (the item necessary to extend sync pair level caps from 140 to 150)

So once you have all your guests at Lv100+, pick someone and start giving them keys to keep getting more stones

There is a very slight benefit to levels from 100 to 1000

[void lintel]

The character's Lodge portrait frame will change colors at certain milestones, becoming rainbow-colored at Lv1000

[glossy harbor]

Ooh, good to know. Thanks.

[sharp bramble]

There’s nothing above Rainbow right?

[hollow kiln]

When Tabitha will get playable status?

[void lintel]

All the colors from the image files are accounted for

[inland axle]

Hi gigafreak

[wide tiger]

Thanks serena

[carmine sedge]

You know, even if I don't lose anything because I have all the lodge units at level 100, I still feel hurt that May dropped me at 90%+ after max vibes

[whole epoch]

i have now unlocked every single one of trainer lodge sync pair. Now is it better to just interact with one sync pair to farm resources or do I need to rotate around?

[sharp solar]

If you got all pairs to 100, just pick a fave and focus on it

[whole epoch]

what's the maximum friendship level for a sync pair?

[sharp solar]

7 9s.

[whole epoch]

yikes

[carmine sedge]

9,999,999

[lucid gulch]

Probably you should focus on those that you have an excess of silver materials

[void lintel]

For what it's worth...
Each guest's portrait frame on the Invite menu? They change colors as you reach certain FriendLv milestones.
The final color is rainbow, reached at FriendLv1000.
So if you want to eventually change it up... 1000 is a good time to switch.
(It is statistically very implausible to reach Lv1000 faster than a month, so we'll get new Lodge Guests faster than you can get rainbow-frames for existing ones.)

[lucid gulch]

Interesting, didn't know about that

What are the milestones?

[void lintel]

Milestone list is here

Here's a screenshot of someone's Lv1000+ Cynthia. Rainbow frame

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012298913279127582/1049573930572193832/Screenshot_20221205-223053_Pokmon_Masters_EX.png

[brave gulch]

Triple lv 10 cache team with a lv 9-10 colour, silver gifts are enough to slowly raise the levels overtime, personally I value friendship key at this 'end game' stage

[analog furnace]

Support coin from Lodge today

[mild rover]

are different trainers more likely to end their chats at higher percents? i've had Silver stop talking super early, which does seem in character for him

[thick widget]

That depends on rng actually

[sharp bramble]

GODDAMMIT WOMAN

[mortal shard]

Credits to Zamcio for the infographs https://twitter.com/zamcio/

[orchid glade]

I got the yellow one quite lucky

[carmine sedge]

So far, only Lillie has given me a candy coin

[orchid glade]

I seem to get 5* potential or candy coins once in a while

[quasi sigil]

It's Elesa for me

[orchid glade]

same Elesa seems to love me and showers me with gifts

[quasi sigil]

I forgot to screenshot, but SILVER out of all people just gave me a yellow candy coin

LFGGGG SILVER I KNEW YOU WERE MY FAVORITE CHARACTER FOR A REASON

[celest swallow]

Thanks for Absol-utely's video, I updated the random events.

I'll see if I can share after I update one last thing.

[coral merlin]

I finished everyone except Lillie, and I’m NEVER touching her.

So, I’m done with everyone now.

[runic plaza]

Why though? Even if you don't like the character, you're giving up power-ups worth of an EX. Plus, an extra throwaway for Gauntlet.

[late sluice]

^ i agree

im not a lillie fan but i still did her levels so i could get the resources

plus my fairy options suck so ill never complain abt a free fairy unit

[cold canyon]

I did three interactions with N last night— this is the best run I’ve gotten so far!

[grizzled pagoda]

I haven’t even made it past 50% in so long I don’t get how u ppl do it

[cold canyon]

Yeah, RNG is fickle tho— on my run before that one, I only got to around 85% before N decided it was a good time to dip

[grizzled pagoda]

Let me ask u this then say you have a +10 option that isn’t hot topic, but you have a +5 option that is the hot topic… which 1 do u choose

[cold canyon]

That depends! If it’s on the first turn, I’d go for the 10 point option and hope to get a hot topic option on the second or third turn, even if the option provided ends up being worth 5+.

That’s my typical strategy, but I also have days where I don’t care and go head empty lmao

[void lintel]

We generally don't! It's just that when someone does, they're more likely to post it than to post the zillion normal interactions they had before it

[cold canyon]

^^

[void lintel]

Selection Bias, I think it's called

[cold canyon]

Yeah, it’s either selection or confirmation bias!

[blazing sapphire]

Survivor bias

although we get a lot of failed on 3rd pick ones too!

[cold canyon]

Oooh wait yeah this is the one!

[void lintel]

I thought survivor bias was something related but different... Hm.

[halcyon seal]

Any fun theories on who the next pair gonna be? My best guess is probably Erika or Steven and my highly unlikely pick of Barry

[quasi sigil]

Steven is inevitable

the only two Hoenn citizens, Steven and May

[worldly ivy]

it's gonna be bede because I'm dena's favourite 😤

[past cargo]

I think it'll be Steven or Lance

With Lance Grid Expansion

[long nymph]

Gloria for lodge

I want a buff on my zacian

[sharp bramble]

‘Ere we go, Platinum border get, one of the many steps to level 1k and final invitation border

[void lintel]

Let's see, Kalos would probably be the next Villain Arc, but we also just got a Kalos Lodge guest. Hm...
Actually, looking at the events we just got this month? a Johto character seems plausible. This year's holiday event starred two Johto gym leaders, and it coincided with the Johto villain arc rerun.

I think the current Lodge gender balance leans female? So it seems more likely that the next guest will be male.

I'm maybe only 30% certain of this, but I'd guess Ethan or Morty

(So, 15% certainty each? Maybe? idk)

[quasi sigil]

I thought they'd kinda rotate the lodge pairs. since we have a male from Johto, the next Johto would be female. of course, this is baseless intuition

[void lintel]

That's what nudges Steven or Barry into the realm of possibility, huh... 🤔

Alola doesn't have a male guest yet either... The worst part about Interacting with Elio is the prolonged-blank-stare animation before some of his reactions

[quasi sigil]

how about Gladion instead

[void lintel]

"Heya, edgeboi! I've been chatting up your sister!" Yeah, that sounds like it'll go swell.

Like, I'd sooner take my chances with their mom and she used to be a supervillain

[quasi sigil]

waiting for the day the all 3 of the aether family arrive in lodge

[void lintel]

Lusamine when she finds out you've been chatting up both her son and her daughter:

[quasi sigil]

It's okay, she'll be happy her children make more friends

[void lintel]

"Are you kids behaving in here--"

[celest swallow]

Wish me luck for tomorrow.
N is level 90 and I have 4* gifts saved for him.

After that, I have to start either Elesa or Serena from scratch.

Also, what if we get Lear?

[void lintel]

Does Lear have enough fans to really be in the running?

[still finch]

Lear should be more involved in VA at least 🥲

[worldly ivy]

I want Lear

[thick widget]

But she doesnt want Lillie to make friend with Clair because of the outfit

[quasi sigil]

Gasp

[dense saddle]

I have maxed out my maxed out units AGAIN

Now what to do

[sharp bramble]

Come on give me Steven at lodge at end of this month…

[void lintel]

Go for FriendLv 1,000 on each of them

[carmine sedge]

Or wait for the next pokefair unit

[late sluice]

been a while since i got this good of an interaction

[random portal]

Probably has been shown before, but... new ui element here on trainer lodge.

[void lintel]

Good to know. (Now go claim it already)

[random portal]

i did. don't worry.

[shadow bramble]

Is there a point where you should go all chest for all teams?

[thick widget]

When you are flooded with lodge materials

[wide tiger]

https://i.4cdn.org/vg/1671739098558315.jpg

😮

[quasi sigil]

[blazing sapphire]

So that rules out…Ash only?

[wooden marsh]

Maxie, Archie and Leon too

[sharp solar]

Where's that from?

[blazing sapphire]

Riiight I forgot. The first master fairs.

Feels simple enough to make it fair, just put them at 1%?

[next junco]

Anyone has reward list of general mission about interactions and friendship max certain number of guests?

[sharp solar]

Just to note, Bulbapedia has the list.

[wooden marsh]

It's not about the featured rate, but the availability. The Pokefairs added to the lodge banner will always be available to pull, even after the month they were featured

Can't allow this for Masterfairs so they're excluded

[dense saddle]

I usually keep chests + some other lodge crystal

[next junco]

i mean what is the point to go for color

Gold gift isnt that good anyway

[sharp solar]

Well, you still need uncap items

[next junco]

Then go all for chest :V

[sharp solar]

You do know values cap at 10?

And 10 chests take 5 slots max

Less if you have +3 units

[next junco]

90 Rare stone for 10lv compare to 60 rare stone + 6000 gold... Too much

[next junco]

Ah you mean at the start?

I thought they already got pass that pharse

[sharp solar]

I mean units that give +3 chests.

I'm not sure I get what you're saying tbh.

Let's start again, what's the deal against color drops?

[next junco]

4 unit is +8 and +2 on pupple extract

[next junco]

I mean you dont really need gold gift that much that all

[sharp solar]

Who cares about gold gifts? You need level uncap items

[next junco]

👀you mean the things to uncap pair friendship?

[sharp solar]

Yeap

[next junco]

With 2 chest team dont think you will run out of it soon

I had 4 pair lv 300 and i pair lv 700

Still have good amout rare stone

And you need 30 each rare stone per day anyway

[sharp solar]

So you use 4 units on a team for chests, where do two other go?

[misty gorge]

Is this good?

[next junco]

👀 just put random color unit

[sharp solar]

It is.

[misty gorge]

Yay finally understand how the Lodge works

[next junco]

Even if you do 2 color team it wont produce more than 2000 gold a day.... No one will buy 3000 gold + 30 rare stone deal

[misty gorge]

[sharp solar]

So you still go for colors.

And if you meant "Why go for colors at the start of lodge" - you still need items for interactions

And chests don't provide constant resources for them, not enough for 6 items

[next junco]

👀i think we off track from the message i replied but yeah color still has it use... Didnt say it in "it has no use at all" i just meant it is abundant so no need to worry about it

I bought like 300 item each already and my red still 90000+

[sharp solar]

Because you had a red-10 team for some time, correct?

Well, anyway, the point is "You can't get interaction items consistently with chest teams only".
Off-tracked quite a bit, yeah.

[next junco]

even others is still abundant, chest give enough tho...i wont say color help nothing or you shouldnt put color in chest team. They asked "is there a point you should go all chest all team?".

Better has 6-7 color and 10 chest than 10 color and 9 chest

The point i wanted to make is that

Could say better than " i meant what is the point of color" but well

My bad

[quasi sigil]

Noooo rip the leon fans

[viscid sparrow]

Who is the best trainer to farm after you’ve maxed everyone out?

[thick widget]

Cynthia, May, Marnie are considered the best

But you should farm with your fav

[viscid sparrow]

Are they all equally good or just whichever one you have

Also why those 3? They just have the widest range of topics?

Also did we ever figure out what the point of the seasonal places are? I know they give specific lines but they don’t seem to give any points like compared to the Halloween ones

[thick widget]

They are equally good imo. I dont even have Cynthia

[thick widget]

Yup

[thick widget]

They makes exclusive topics appear

[viscid sparrow]

Thank you

How high is the level cap

[sharp solar]

7 9s.

[viscid sparrow]

What?

[sharp solar]

Or 9999999.

[viscid sparrow]

Thank you

[hollow kiln]

I’m doing Elesa next.

[glad acorn]

Serena seems easy mode since she has a lot of 10 points

[void lintel]

Marnie has the most 10pt topics by far
Cynthia and May are nothing special in terms of score, they are just popular
Serena has an above-average number of 10pointers I think

Worst to best...
Blue: 18 in the Lodge
Silver: 18 in the Villa
N: 18 in the Lodge
Elesa: 18 at the Gate or Lodge
Lillie: 20 in the Lodge
Rosa: 21 in the Lodge
May: 21 on the Road, 22 in the Lodge
Serena: 21 in the Lodge or Villa
Cynthia: 22 in the Lodge
Raihan: 22 in the Villa
Sycamore: 22 in the Lodge
Marnie: 28 in the Lodge
So I misremembered their relative number of 10pointers. Cynthia and May have 22 (second-highest) and Serena has one fewer

(Srsly tho, Marnie. I'd go "lmao calm down Marnie" but she can't calm down when everything is Super Exciting to her)

[blazing laurel]

Quick question. By increasing someones friendship level cap the only rewrd you get from more levels is the lodge stones right? Bouta max out my last lodge trainer and just wanna make sure theres no specific things for certain trainers

[sharp solar]

Only stones, correct.

Past 100 you don't get anything else

Ah, well, there's the border color in the lodge menu but that is just a visual effect

[blazing laurel]

Got it, putting everything into blue then

Thanks

[glad acorn]

Past 100 you don't get much but lodge stones from levelling

[keen stump]

well this was all luck

[mortal shard]

Credits to Zamcio for the infographs https://twitter.com/zamcio/

[next junco]

Why bulbasaur is so big

[glad acorn]

Dawn in lodge, which means 8 females and 5 males

[thick widget]

a gender balance!

[dense wigeon]

praying for more males in lodge after dawn pleaseeee

[late sluice]

so who are we thinking for dawn's lodge pair

piplup? mamoswine?

[thick widget]

i guess Pachisiru

Piplup is unlikely imo

[late sluice]

that's fair but it'd be nice to have a support for barry

one catered towards him at least

[thick widget]

what if it's a tech

[night tide]

Rain Spatk and Spd debuffs I wish

Wow and I thought sycamore was my best interaction ever

[shut lagoon]

Nice! Another spotlight unit!

[glad acorn]

That's the only plus

[carmine sedge]

Finally, I can use my wistful materials

So I can save my soothing materials

[blazing sapphire]

Soothing extract gift and then a 96% drop

[quasi sigil]

Dawn in lodge dawn in lodge dawn in lodge dawn in lodge whooo

[next junco]

cant wait to use lodge dawn

[next junco]

Hand clap

[vestal kraken]

What color is dawn?

[thick widget]

Blue

Since the base pair is support

[carmine sedge]

Wistful

[vestal kraken]

Oh good I have too much of those

[carmine sedge]

There's too much tech units

[mortal shard]

Credits to Zamcio for the infographs https://twitter.com/zamcio/

[quasi sigil]

Really? I feel like we barely have techs in lodge

Only Marnie, May, and Serena right

[next junco]

too much tech

Silver, Rosa, Serena, Marnie, N, Lilie

Dawn tech let's gooooo

[quasi sigil]

Oh, you mean the lodge pairs

[coral merlin]

I wonder if will ever get a lodge pair with potions

[carmine sedge]

I meant the base units

[thick widget]

We only have 3 base tech

While striker tho

Blue, Silver, Cynthia, N, Raihan and Elesa

[pastel swallow]

lvl 1k is rainbow border for inviting section ?

[void lintel]

Yes

[formal forge]

Is it possible to get 10 Wistful /Blue and 10 Rare using the holiday expedition?

[tired furnace]

not before I get Flannery first!!!

[pastel swallow]

ohhh nice

[brave gulch]

Well this aged well

[void lintel]

This was possible for Fall. It's not looking so good for Winter...

The two 2Blue Winter units are Erika and Rosa, so they're in.
Winter Jasmine has, regretfully, the Gym Leader stat spread (...while Erika doesn't???), so she has a cruddier 1Blue (and 1Yellow)
The two +4Blue characters are SSKris (Johto) and Lillie (Alola).
The +6Blue characters are Hilbert (Unova), Sycamore (Kalos), and Sonia (Galar).

These pieces do not fit together well...

Yeah, this isn't happening.
Erika's from Kanto (no Wistful region bonus)
Rosa's from Unova (Hilbert doesn't actually have good support in his region)
Neither one of this year's Winter units has 2Blue (and 1Blue 1Rare is flatout worse than 0Blue 2Rare), and they're Johto to boot: Johto is very cursed for Expeditions
No four units, even with Erika and Rosa on the team, can provide both 6 Blue and 5 Rare necessary to reach 10/8 for Rare Extract to bring it to 10/10
If we had a 3Rare unit that didn't delete 2 points of Blue, it might've been possible.

[tired raptor]

is it completely rng if conversation ends after 3 topics?

[brave gulch]

Conversation ending after 2 topics is completely rng

[tired raptor]

it hurts doing all 6 interactions and then getting only 30 points in

is it better to do 6 single interactions?

[brave gulch]

Probably?

[next junco]

i think so

[brave gulch]

I can't say for sure since I'm in the camp that always does all 6 at once

"Go big or go home"

[next junco]

I tried do 6 all at once and 6 individually... All at once may give more consistent lv per day

I give gift at the start to 6 all at once tho dont want to get a death run since it hurt so much

[tired raptor]

death run?

[next junco]

Like the run when they quit at 95%

[tired raptor]

ah

[next junco]

100 x 1.3 x 6 = 780 tho not bad

in bad day

[brave gulch]

I just always play it mostly safe and give at 3rd topic

[tired raptor]

I should do this as well

30x 6 = 180 hurts lol

[next junco]

yeah that good

[next junco]

true

[brave gulch]

Tho tbh it's been a long time since I use any gifts or items because I've been doing empty interaction with may

Ran out of sync pairs

May went from 100 to 260 through empty interactions everyday lmao

[next junco]

Next time i will try 1 interaction with gold gift and all 5 with silver gift... sound like consistent 8 lv per day

[next junco]

Why tho

You dont want rainbow frame?

[brave gulch]

Eh

I care more about dawn rainbow frame

[tired raptor]

yes that sounds like a good plan. I will try always giving present at 3rd topic

[next junco]

Dawn soon to come... Path to 1000 lvl

[brave gulch]

Yeah

Not enough keys to do that tho

Got 500 levels worth of key for dawn now

[next junco]

[brave gulch]

Actually 500+ levels I lost track

[next junco]

remember to buy some key in store too

[brave gulch]

Yeah I did

[next junco]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-its-over9000-dbz-dragon-ball-z-gif-22240874

[brave gulch]

I mean assuming I gain 12 levels a day..

It will still take about 1.5 months to get to that level cap

[next junco]

have thing to do

[brave gulch]

By then 2 new sync pairs in lodge alr probably

But I'm gonna get dawn to 1000

Screw other pairs 🏃‍♂️

[next junco]

take 10 day to max a pair tho

[quasi sigil]

Based

[next junco]

So 20 day left is for our love

[brave gulch]

Oh yeah that's true

It does take 10 days to max a pair

All for dawn too

[next junco]

do you have 60 gold gift for her

[brave gulch]

Nah the golds are for changing to keys

[next junco]

[brave gulch]

Long run to 1k levels actually need long planning lol

I probably will hit level cap faster if I don't use gold for keys

[next junco]

Just have 2 chest team

[brave gulch]

I do

[brave gulch]

But it's still not enough clearly

[next junco]

26 dawn gift

[brave gulch]

Well if I unlock the cap way faster than I thought I will go for gold gifts

[next junco]

👀i got my marnie to 700 and like 4 more pair to 300 already

[brave gulch]

Well then

I guess I will save blue golds

[next junco]

dont exchange for silver key too expensive

60 rare stone and 6000 gold compare to 90 rare stone also for 10 lv

[brave gulch]

Got to hope rare cache give me more friendship keys

[next junco]

true tho

[brave gulch]

My luck is terrible in lodge

Haven't got a single candy coin yet

But my banner luck is great in exchange

[next junco]

Im opposite

Had 2 from marnie this month

But got shaft

[brave gulch]

I got super luck on serena

But I got shafted by calem as I predicted

[next junco]

[snow birch]

A Christmas miracle

[next junco]

[maiden perch]

my brother just got a support candy coin from the lodge

and that's only 0.5%

[maiden haven]

which pokemon are we betting on?

[celest swallow]

For Dawn? Piplup is very likely because of the adaptations.

Protagonists are in a weird situation were it'd be out of left field to give them anything else than a starter and a legendary.

Red, May and Calem so far were helped by having fights in the main game that determined some of the units (Snorlax, Wailmer, Meowstic)

Lucas can use Flareon in BDSP, but not while having Infernape.

[sharp solar]

Serena got Fletchling as her lodge pair

[sharp solar]

I mean, that contradicts "starter or legendary" idea, and it's not just one case.
Yes, they had to base it off of something, but that doesn't rule the same possibility for any other protag who has an official team.

[void lintel]

Red's Pikachu has the GMax Factor and Volt Tackle, both of which contradict what his Sync Pair Story establishes-- that this one was caught wild in Viridian Forest
DeNA does whatever it wants

[sharp solar]

I mean, he could've traveled to Paldea to teach Volt Tackle there via Mirror Herb and to Galar for GMax factor via Max Soup.

[void lintel]

Was Scarlet/Violet even out yet at the time...?

[wide tiger]

https://i.4cdn.org/vg/1671988201333216.jpg

[void lintel]

Some of the generic enemy trainers had those in today's gift battle. So at least we're not as bereft of ideas for whose the big one is (if indeed it's not just Whitney's)

[opal cosmos]

Guys.. Where did pm longe go?

[night tide]

#poma-lounge

[opal cosmos]

Damn

Where to talk about pm stuff now??

[night tide]

I’m poma lounge?

[opal cosmos]

Also what happened to datamine?

[night tide]

Merged with poma lounge