Trainer Lodge

[lost pumice]

SSLillie can happen so idk if thats a problem

[worldly ivy]

Silver doesn't have a single 10pt topic for fashion and honestly???? Mood,

[carmine pilot]

SM Lusamine was kinda an abusive mother, obsessed on things. Classic Lillie is like a reminder
But well, we got her classic outfit in the anime so i don't think it will be a real issue here

[carmine pilot]

I'm afraid on going with Silver
I used to aim at Places with Cynthia N and Blue
Quite simple

[maiden haven]

she hates hats, then you have that SC outfit

[dense sonnet]

when cant i quit? still dont know

[alpine flare]

to reset? don't quit mid animation

just wait till the topics appear then quit

[dense sonnet]

oh, ok

and when should i select hot topics using all help items

[alpine flare]

round 2

[timid parcel]

Wow this was my best score

[sick cedar]

I don’t know why him and Lillie had the same Hot Topic when I did them back to back but hey

[void lintel]

It's not that weird

Like, if someone got stuck in Indigo Plateau with a Magikarp, no other 'mons, and no money to buy items (including Pokéballs to catch other 'mons), and then still beat the Elite Four that morning

I feel like that'd be a hot topic for more than one person that day

[sick cedar]

Their topic was Places if I recall, that’s why is messed with me so bad. Blue doesn’t exactly strike me as a places guy y’know?

[grizzled pagoda]

This isnt that good is it

[void lintel]

It's not bad

[grizzled pagoda]

I get how ppl get x1.3 and x6 but don’t understand how they r getting 200+ points

[void lintel]

Luck. And a lot of it.

The convo has to go on for a lot of turns, with a majority of Super Exciting topics (at least one available on most turns), and multiple Hot Topics

It's luck for each of those conditions to form, and luck again that the convo doesn't drop

[grizzled pagoda]

Well damn. Also is buying the +3 interactions and the gold presents ideal? Like is there anything better to spend that currency on

[sharp solar]

You only see 200+ pics, people don't tend to post 100 or 67

[void lintel]

+3 interactions every day yeah

Gold presents when you can afford them

[orchid glade]

Where I ended at

[void lintel]

The limiting factor on gold gifts is gonna be the tier3 crystals, not the tier4 ones

[orchid glade]

so 4 days left and done

[void lintel]

Especially if you have two Rare Cache teams

Otherwise, silver gifts work fine

[grizzled pagoda]

Yea ig I see alot of flex pics that made me think I’m doing bad

Well Alr then

[void lintel]

And the guest could always end up just leaving before you have the chance to hand it over anyway

~~...It happened to me today ~~

~~On a x5 interaction ~~

[alpine flare]

i haven't used any silver gift in two days because i only do x6 and they left at 85ish

i know i can use it before that, but i'm in no rush

[urban flicker]

https://youtu.be/P2eAGNVNrxU

[carmine pilot]

The kick after max vibe is true pain!
Dena should remove drop roll after max vibe and after gift

[hard badger]

Fue still plays masters? I thought he retired certainly hood news for the community

[urban zinc]

Bruh what

It's on Silver and I got items as the hot topic, arguably the worst/2nd worst hot topic for him

[glad pasture]

Big flex

[thick widget]

Silver doesnt have many super interesting topics compared to others right?

[worldly ivy]

Yeah, he has a bit less than the others (the boy has a one-track mind and can only think about battling (and his friends) pls understand )

[gusty topaz]

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[winter galleon]

In my own experience I've started picking Boost Juice over Feel Ring because I'd get messed up more from failing Max Vibes for 5 straight hot topics

[carmine pilot]

Glasses, Shovel and Juice should be your main items

The ring is weird because tend to bring all the hot topic's topic early
Ruining your max vibe and potentially wasting +10 hot topic during max vibe

[gusty topaz]

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[carmine pilot]

Yes. They won't show up again

Not confirmed by data, but nobody found the same choice twice

So, pmuch confirmed

[gusty topaz]

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[void lintel]

Yeah, that's exactly why I stopped using the Feel Ring

[carmine pilot]

Yeah exacrly that
Expecially if your hot topic is limited, like Friends or Items
Places at least got always the upper hand

[maiden haven]

if Feel Ring limited it to 1 hot topic at once in conversation too

that would be good

[void lintel]

It summons all the Hot Topics up on early turns, most of which won't have Attention drain anyway

[river temple]

i just use all 4 items

[void lintel]

Turns 1 and 2 don't have drain at all, and you'll get two more no-drain turns from Max Vibes

With the Feel Ring, you tend to run out of Hot Topics around Turn 7

So you get maybe three turns of Hot Topics when they actually matter

[gusty topaz]

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[maiden haven]

1 more month till pile of lodge items keeps on growing, hope they dont have stupidly low caps like 99999

[carmine pilot]

I'm getting only feel rings from daily lodge gifts
That's the proof they're useless

[sudden forum]

Okay it seems there's a % chance for the Hot Topic to be revealed without Insight Specs, do we know what this chance is, or it increases as your friendship level rises?

[kind marlin]

If you level up Lillie to 9,999,999 friendship you get a special Lillie and arceus 4* sync pair

[river temple]

true

[pale cedar]

It is friendship level based (maybe just friendship level as a %?)

[void lintel]

There are 256 sync pairs according to the in-game Trainer Dex.
Let's subtract the three default eggmons (they don't need level-uncapping) and another nine for the nine Lodge Guests (each guest gives 10 Certificates of Excellence on the trip to 100, covering either their own or their bonus sync pair's uncapping needs)
244 sync pairs and 2,440 Certificates of Excellence. 24,400 levels required... and another 100 for each new pair that releases.

[sudden forum]

Oh, I haven’t tried on someone I’ve gotten to max.

[upper bridge]

What do u guys prioritize buying with these crystal thingamajig

[void lintel]

We just had the third anniversary. The game has been running for 36 months.

34 initial 3stars
24 initial 4stars
9 initial 5stars (I think)

244 minus those initial 67, divided across 36 months: 4.917 average new sync pairs per month
That... Uh, I don't think we can do more than that many friendship levels per month. Maybe 300-400, but not more than 492.
Gonna need a loooooot of Lodge Stones from rare caches to bridge the gap, or they'll need to add other ways to get Certificates of Excellence if we're gonna keep up

[void lintel]

Which tier?

[upper bridge]

The green ones

The green background ones

[void lintel]

Extra Interactions every day. Gold gifts if you have the gold stones.
Then gold keys.

If both your expedition teams have Rare Cache Lv10, you get waaaay more than enough to buy 3 extra interactions every day. And then you can afford a gold key around every 2 days

On top of the interactions, that is

[vestal kraken]

What is the gold key?

[void lintel]

Adds +10 max friendship levels. This is enough to buy another Certificate of Excellence from the resulting Lodge Stones

[vestal kraken]

Oh those I keep forgetting about those.

[void lintel]

When you run out of guests to level up, go back to your favorite and pick the button up there

[upper bridge]

What do gold gifts do?

[vestal kraken]

I figure 10 days per guest at the rate I'm going - roughly 10 levels a day.

[void lintel]

Bronze is 1.1 friendExpmultiplier for that convo and 10% Attention heal
Silver is 1.3 multiplier and 20% heal
Gold is 1.5 multiplier and 30% heal

It's risky to hold out for a low enough Attention% for all 30% of the gold heal though

[blazing sapphire]

I gold heal at 80%

[upper bridge]

Also do u guys do 3 interaction separately or do it all at once

[void lintel]

Same result overall either way

Same costs, same rewards, same risks

Remember you need 3 of each item (including gift) for a 3× interaction tho

It just saves time, especially if you use a strategy that involves resetting for a good opener

[river temple]

i do 2 runs of 3

[void lintel]

If I have a gold gift, I do a single run to use that up and then a 5× run with silvers
If I have two gold gifts, I guess I should do a 4× run with silvers and then a 2× run with golds

(It's impossible to start the day with a 2×run...)

[blazing sapphire]

I wait until I have x3 gold gifts and do x3 then

Otherwise it's far too much resetting

[spare birch]

You guys buy gold gifts?

Isn’t it most optimal to buy silver

Or bronze since there’s a lot of bronze materials

[void lintel]

What else are we gonna do with gold stones

The best way to buy keys is 3×30 tier4 stones for a gold

[spare birch]

Save em for golden keys

[void lintel]

You can't. That's a silver key.

[spare birch]

Oh shoot

My bad

[void lintel]

Yeah, it's a ripoff

If it were a gold key, I might actually make that trade...

[pale cedar]

aren’t the keys kind of a scam

at least for now

[void lintel]

The silver ones yes
The gold ones... What else are you going to spend excess Tier4s on

You want double Rare Cache teams anyway for more Lodge Stones and

[glad acorn]

Outside of the zoom-in, there is no other tell. Maybe equipping Feel Ring?

[sudden forum]

No I mean, you can go into a conversation and it will reveal the hot topic with no input or insight specs used.

I was trying to see if a known % was already discovered to add to the pins.

I don’t have an interaction available to test on my two maxed trainers. But it was suggested that it’s based on the friends current level.

They were so cheap that I didn’t bother to try it out.

[autumn stone]

I deserved this after getting x6 gift extracts in a row

[grizzled pagoda]

Do u lose the +3 interactions u can buy everyday if u don’t use them

[verbal prairie]

yes

[thick widget]

wtf Rosa left me at 91% twice

[carmine sedge]

Goddamnit, I just literally wasted my interaction Lillie today, dropped me at 84%

I didn't even get to use my gifts on her

[mild edge]

whoa finally got a support coin as a daily gift today.

[blazing sapphire]

I see you e met my Lillie

[mild edge]

Do you guys recommend to use lodge stones or candies for the unit's dupes?

[winter galleon]

Supports I'd use lodge stones but Tech and definitely Strikers I'd just candy

[sharp bramble]

God

[mild edge]

Alright, guess I messed up on my first unit then.

[sharp bramble]

Bloody May just giving me 5 levels

[mild edge]

Will take note for the third onwards

[urban flicker]

75 from 87

there still seems to be 2 tries where they leave early

[urban zinc]

Yesterday Silver was into items and now into others and fashion

Bro please that's the 3 worst hot topics you can have

STOP LIKING FASHION SILVER PLEASE

... FINE

Was about to give him a gift the topic was Other

[narrow crown]

Blue left yesterday 3 times at 90% before gifts, he did it again 3 times today :/ (the other 3 attempts were ok enough to not be a complete dead day)

[orchid glade]

Not bad 👍

so at most three days to go

today I tried without hot topic boost and found I had to reset so much

I would rather use it instead

has anyone wondered why they don't give notifications when expedition boosts end? I keep forgetting to check

[sharp bramble]

I never get notifications for anything lol

[worldly ivy]

yeah I wish they gave notifs for that (also wish they did it when ur stamina is full)

like why are eggs literally the only thing they notify u about

[twilit venture]

Again

Lmao

I've finished Marnie btw
On to Cynthia

[orchid glade]

yes exactly I think I will suggest that to Dena the next time, glad they have listened to my other ones

[autumn stone]

Dang I will never be a victim of that again

[autumn stone]

I did send a feedback regarding this ever since they added the stamina thing. Maybe they'll add that in the future along with the expo buffs and cheers.

[abstract marlin]

Lvl 100 N tommorow

[worldly ivy]

yeah I've sent some feedback about it before but still nothing

[orchid glade]

Never tried asking for that only other things like better gem bundles on anniversary which we got

[autumn stone]

The user experience for sync grid has that same treatment as well. Almost 1-2 years before they implement. Sometimes I tend to send a feedback in customer support to get a rep. lol

[orchid glade]

the replies I get from ingame reporting are kinda useless

They just fixed the Cynthia Lucario Zone bug and said we will let them know, so they don't even know what devs are doing or its generic replies

only way I found which works is mass reporting

[autumn stone]

True, I also notice that since 2.5 anni. I did get generic replies often.

[orchid glade]

Like I've reported the game crashes and screen going black plus lodge freezing and they say clear cache everytime

like they want me to clear cache on several accounts lol

they copy paste this everytime lol

[feral garnet]

i just have a question on how often trainers in the lodge give out gifts and if all of them can give you anything at the same time in the time frame specified

[worldly ivy]

1 gift per day

from whoever u interacted with last

the gifts u can get depend on the friendship level (with the best gifts being given out at lvl 30+)

if u last interacted with someone whose friendship level is below lvl 30, u can kick them out of the lodge before reset and only keep a lvl 30+ trainer in the lodge

[timid parcel]

Nice, 2x 200+ back to back

This is worth it right?

[wary wasp]

nice

[wary wasp]

tbh nah, 4* striker candies are given out like candy

it’s the other two roles that you gotta think on

[timid parcel]

What are the top 3 lodge units?

[wary wasp]

cynthia
n
blue

at least from what i’ve heard

[timid parcel]

Alright thank you

[late sluice]

can someone please gib silver interaction point values please 🤲

i know its a command i just dont know which one xd

[analog furnace]

4 rough days with Silver in a row man The amount of times I’ve been insta dropped or dropped without a gift is like at least half, not to mention being dropped right afterwards

I like to think I’m just getting the bad outta the way, but c’mon

[kind marlin]

Idk how but sycamore is treating me even worse than silver was

I’ve had sycamore leave twice (doing 3 interactions at a time) at like 90% before I’ve gotten the hot topic in the last 2 days

[thick widget]

Use /lodge {pair's name} here or #bot-zone

[orchid glade]

only three? then you need to start using items and vibing

[kind marlin]

Bro I literally am

I just don’t usually save scum

[urban flicker]

do one by one

[kind marlin]

Nah

[urban flicker]

it safer and you do the same amount of level

[kind marlin]

No reason to

It’s not safer

[urban flicker]

how is it not

[kind marlin]

The average result is the same

[urban flicker]

then getting dumped early when using 3x is better

Except that if your interaction ends early

you still have other tries

[kind marlin]

Anyway doesn’t matter I don’t think I’ll change your mind

[urban flicker]

Be my guest if you want this to keep happening

And I used to do it as well, 3x and sometimes 6x

but then interaction ended early 2 days in a row, since then I changed

[orchid glade]

ye I get a better average doing it one by one

only difference multiple does is not wasting ones time

[urban flicker]

I am not resetting as much as I used to be

[orchid glade]

I usually don't but gave just using top three items a try and ended up resetting a lot more which I don't have to when using all 4

Don't really see the benefit of not using all items too

[zealous osprey]

Everyone keeps saying that the average is the same, while ignoring the variance

Having 6 samples of a random variable gives 6 times smaller variance than a single sample, which makes it more likely to achieve the average

Basic statistics, my friend

[kind marlin]

Yeah but doing it over time doesn’t really matter

[zealous osprey]

My reason for doing 6* instead of 1* is that it saves time, and if my result is too far from the average, I'll just use the* meme-reset-shenanigan * by reinstalling the app, which has only happened twice till now

[kind marlin]

Yeah in a day the variance will be smaller but over a longer period of time it doesn’t matter

Basic statistics my friend

Me when I roll 1 dice and multiply the result by 6 every day for 100 days and it ends up similar to rolling 6 dice every day for 100 days

[zealous osprey]

Nah, the 6* difference on variance keeps on playing its part if you are serious enough about the numbers

but tbh this mode isn't that rigorous about that

I'm just saying that those who chose to do 6 times a day have their point, no need to deny that

[kind marlin]

I didn’t say they didn’t

I just said it’s not any safer

I don’t think it’s less safe obv

Just because you feel safer doing them one at a time doesn’t change anything

[zealous osprey]

Nah variance isn't just about your feelings, but sure if you say so

[void lintel]

Oh dang, 15 turns is possible! And 16 might be, too!

...RNG giveth and RNG taketh away

[carmine sedge]

That's literally what happened to me today with Lillie

[worldly ivy]

thinking about how everyone always says silver is the worst but I was my luckiest with silver

[late sluice]

/lodge silver

[mortal shard]

Credits to Zamcio for the infographs https://twitter.com/zamcio/

[eternal mural]

Is 1 trainer lodge character every 20 days a good speed

[random cloud]

That’s a little slow, I think average is probably ~2 weeks per?

[carmine sedge]

Depends on the rate that DeNA will release new charatcers monthly

[random cloud]

Assuming you’re not doing a ton of min-maxing on interactions, of course

[orchid glade]

I am doing 10 days per character

[carmine sedge]

I'm gonna get my second level 100 tomorrow (assuming I don't have the luck like a while ago)

[worldly ivy]

idk how many days I'm taking but in the middle of my 3rd chara

[orchid glade]

probably like 12 days you just slightly behind me

[carmine sedge]

With the best luck possible, you can probably level 100 a unit within 4 or 5 days right?

[orchid glade]

you need crazy luck for that

like 1.5x over 300 points x6

[carmine sedge]

More like 250 points * 6 * 1.5

[orchid glade]

300 counts the 1.5

[carmine sedge]

I mean, 2250 points everyday

[orchid glade]

wonder if anyone ever got that lucky multiple times

approximately 334 points per interaction is needed for 5 days

[carmine sedge]

Isn't is 100 exp for 1 level?

[hexed lava]

so how i think May (lvl 30+) for daily interractions is the best right?

[carmine sedge]

Ah, my math is slow

[random cloud]

I don’t think the trainer themselves matters, just friendship 30+

[orchid glade]

yes its just saying the levels

[hexed lava]

ooh okay i get it now thanks!

[analog furnace]

Over a very long period of time, maybe, but it's not keeping you close to the average at all consistently otherwise

Even then, I'm not too sure that says much (not a math guy either), so the rule of thumb is that multiple saves you time and gives you the potential of a really cool screenshot, but isn't really the best option otherwise afaik

If I were doing multiple interactions the past 4 days... yikes... at least, really bad days can still leave me with 9/10 levels

[rigid pilot]

Man

Doing support char back to back

Really hurts lol

[random cloud]

IMO it’s worth, especially for the Supports

[analog furnace]

I would use candies with the exception of supports personally

[random cloud]

Level 150 has no major mechanical benefit right now

[analog furnace]

Way less yeah

Some have like, 30 strike candies

Yeah, point is at least that we get more than we end up using

Over time

I think they could afford to start shifting the amount a lil bit, yeah

[rigid pilot]

Oh shit after rosa I ran out of girls in lodge F

Guess I just pick blue

Rosa gonna take till October minimum

[dusky finch]

Was gonna go for Cynthia or Blue next but I might not have 2 4* support candy by the time I get them, so it'd be kinda pointless. So Marnie it is I guess

[glad acorn]

Just... buy with lodge stones?

[grizzled pagoda]

Can I save these? Or does it get deleted if u don’t use them same day

[orchid glade]

saving them is like stamina so bad

you don't get three every day

so buy and use them the same day

[dusky finch]

That's 5 certificates, no way!

[random cloud]

Level 150 has no major benefit though

140 is already overkill

[glad acorn]

I kinda anticipated that answer

[orchid glade]

level 120 is still enough for 10k master mode

[glad acorn]

"Use stones on sync move level?! Now, I need more 150s!"

[orchid glade]

so 150 is pointless probably won't do it for a long time

[sudden forum]

You can only recover up to 3 interactions each day, so if you have more than 3 at reset, you won't recover any.
So there isn't any point in holding onto the additional interactions, since you will not recover the normal daily interactions if you're holding onto these.

[glad acorn]

For what? Not many play LG avidly

[orchid glade]

Even in gauntlet 150 is not needed

[dusky finch]

I will get every unit I can to 150, not because I need to, but because I need to

[glad acorn]

In a sense, this reminds me of that certain question - "Hey guys, I have Zinnia's power ups. Should I exchange them for 2 power ups so I can feed my favorites?"

[orchid glade]

3/5 Support is more useful than more 150

[glad acorn]

Granted, this one is less damaging than the zinnia question

[orchid glade]

if the increase gave a lot more than 10 stats at 150 then maybe it would be useful

[dusky finch]

And I mean I have every story pair at 5/5 so I was always gonna use my candy on them

I'm fine waiting for later to get the support pairs, not that I was gonna use them anyway

[glad acorn]

I remember reading someone having 2 interactions left and it got brought forward allowing him to do 8 interactions

[sick cedar]

When the trainer ends the convo at 89% attention this hurts a small bit

[glad acorn]

@sudden forum #1012298913279127582 message

[dusky finch]

Yeah I'm done being optimal, get Max Vibes and a present asap in case they run off. I've had enough.

[orchid glade]

probably not true as I never got the interaction that I forgot to do the day before

if it was I would of had 4

[sudden forum]

So it doesn't behave the same way as stamina then.

[glad acorn]

Might need to ask the guy for more details, if he remembered

[orchid glade]

cause I never got the one I forgot to do the day before so seems weird

[glad acorn]

Either he forgot for 2 whole days. Doesn't seem like a regular poster here

[sharp solar]

Or just bought one before reset and one after

[orchid glade]

could be as you could get 9

6 from day before and 2 purchased

[glad acorn]

I guess we can assume that we will still get 3 on daily basis, but never goes past 10 interactions

[sudden forum]

Yeah, you never regen any past x/3.
You can just keep buying more to stockpile.

[orchid glade]

ye and if you forgot it on 1/3 you will never get that interaction back

[glad acorn]

But then we can't explain the 8 interactions, unless something wonky like you can get the 3 dailies if you are not at 3/3

So 2/3 allows you to get +3 from daily, then 3 from shop

[orchid glade]

you can buy the shop ones making 6/3 then 9/3

[sick cedar]

Blue is gonna make me go mental trying to level him up, he keeps cutting to convo off at 80% like bruh what do you want from me

[orchid glade]

you can buy them at 3/3

[orchid glade]

yes makes most sense in his case

[sick cedar]

Should I focus down buying the Expedition Team slots or should I just get interaction refills instead

[orchid glade]

I did both

one chest and one colour until I needed another

[glad acorn]

You need to get all 6 slots before you can have a steady flow of materials

[sick cedar]

Alrighty then, this grind is gonna be a time isn’t it

[orchid glade]

I was able to get three interactions most days doing that

[sudden forum]

I just logged into my other account, still had only 3/3. Also had 30,000 treasures to collect.

[orchid glade]

what did you get?

[sudden forum]

Still unlocking team slots, no caches lol

I only log into this once in a week

[sick cedar]

30,000 treasures? Dang that’s impressive

[sudden forum]

It's just a week's worth of expeditions

[glad acorn]

At least 3 days to get all 3 slots

Check the pins and estimate the number of hours you need to get enough for each slots

[sick cedar]

Yeah three days of focusing on a couple of things wasn’t what I was planning lol

[glad acorn]

Then try this. Leave it 2/3 for a day

If it becomes 3/3 the next reset, guess the dude remembered wrong

[sudden forum]

okay I'll leave it at 2/3

[void lintel]

There's something I wanted to check, but don't want to be the one putting my Interactions on the line for

If you enter a 3x Interaction and quit
And then just never reenter the Lodge until after the daily reset

Does it give you the 3 Interactions from regen and then refund the 3 Interactions that were in progress

I'd have thought it just waits until after your Interactions complete before deducting your stuff

But if it really is deduct-and-then-refund

Then a regen tick could happen in between

[sharp solar]

Also: What if daily reset hits while you're mid-interaction but you reset?

[void lintel]

That would also result in this same thing, yeah

[sharp solar]

The same but a bit different approach, since closing the game may trigger the refund.

[orchid glade]

I would expect you to get three on reset and still get three extra so would have 6

would have to be tested

[keen wolf]

I thought Sinnoh Myth is other lmfao

[orchid glade]

yep it's a hobby, but can see why you thought that

[keen wolf]

Pretty funny

[night tide]

What are good expedition teams?

[random cloud]

Should be some recommendations in pins

[sharp solar]

teams of faves ofc

[stark swallow]

Should i be leveling up the max friendship level?

Feels maybe not worthwhile

[random cloud]

No need to do so rn

[sharp solar]

Level cap? Not currently, no

[stark swallow]

Thought so. Didn’t see any realistic benefit

[sharp solar]

You can set it to 105 or smth so you don't waste exp

[shut lagoon]

Of course the one time I don't do x3 it goes well lol

[analog furnace]

I am going to lose my mind. This is the 4th day where half or more of my interactions are dropped early

DENA PLEASE

God please make this just a little bit better

[shut lagoon]

What if

Presents made the next topic guaranteed

[analog furnace]

I’m this close to just gifting at 90%+ dude, even then I haven’t even had the chance to do that many times

Not even that though, it sucks when you get dropped at 90%+ before you even give a gift

Or right after max vibes instantly

It’d be fine if it didn’t happen so often

[shut lagoon]

Yeah that's pain

Sometimes it feels like doing multiple interactions is actually rolling the RNG 3 times for each topic

[analog furnace]

I could say I’m biased, but salt-aside, I think it just makes sense for such things to be a rarer occurrence

I’m doing individual interactions and even then the RNG is killing me

It should at least be more likely for you to approach 50-70% attention before an interaction ends

[shut lagoon]

I know some tactical RPGs have mechanics that rig the actual rates in favor of the player so that missing a 90%+ is less likely
Then we have Pokémon where on the same turn you miss High Jump Kick, you get frozen by Ice Beam

[analog furnace]

Lol

It sounds like Lodge needs that imo, been saying something along those lines from the start. At least so that rather than it feeling like the drop chance starts off so high, it feels like it’s reasonably ramping up

Gets frustrating to be met with bad RNG so early so consistently with a feature like this

[sharp solar]

Can't get frozen if you're dead

[shut lagoon]

True

[crimson surge]

GREAT!

[analog furnace]

Well, worst day yet was just under 9 levels I think, so I suppose it’s not the end of the world

[analog furnace]

[shut lagoon]

My worst was 2nd day with N, both 3x interactions ending 1 topic after Max Vibes (no presents). I think that was 5 levels or so

Still averaged out to 13 days

[keen wolf]

Try beating this lol

Not even 2 levels

[glad pasture]

HOW DID THIS HAPPEN

[carmine pilot]

risky play

[void lintel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012298913279127582/1012753199888859197/unknown.png

[little walrus]

I gift at 90% plus or they leave every time

Too risky not to

[wary wasp]

holy shit

[carmine sedge]

I wonder where to trade my Lodge Stones since I have a lot of 4* candies

[glad pasture]

We should have a scoreboard of who can get the most points at once lmao

[carmine sedge]

Has anyone ever gotten 260+ pts.?

[glad pasture]

Tbh I still use Lodge Stones on dupes because Level 150 is more a flex than a functional stat increase (aside from very niche LA solos)

Meanwhile candies are useful for BP pairs

Ultimately if you have a ton tho you can't go wrong either way. Except with support candies. Don't use those.

[carmine sedge]

I did use my candies on BP Janine

Eh IDK, Lodge Stones doesn't have any good things to exchange except maybe for unitd

[sharp bramble]

Duplicates for supports, candies for techs and strikers for me

[void lintel]

What worries me isn't Lv150.
It's that whatever eventually lies beyond Lv150 is going to require Lv150

If/when the level caps rise to Lv160, you know

[pale cedar]

It would be a little weird if they went back to drinks tho

[void lintel]

By then, hopefully it will be easier to get the Certificates

[pale cedar]

150 does seem like a natural place to cap it off tho

[void lintel]

An icon for Champion's Notes has been in the game since launch

The pen has a giant Poké Ball at the end

In any case, I did the math the other day and we're just not gonna be able to keep pace-- new sync pairs are released faster than we can plausibly generate Certificates for them-- unless Certificates are made more common somehow

[pale cedar]

150 is just a neat thing to do for your favorites I feel like

better on Pokémon with higher base stats of course but I don’t think anyones concerned about optimizing certificate usage

[worldly ivy]

I mean there are def ppl going for meta with 150 but ye for the most part it just feels like a flex

[autumn stone]

Ok, so usually we get a total of 6x per day r, the 3x free will be consume first. I only consume 4x that day, so what's left is the 2x paid ones. I didn't bother tryn the 10x run coz in reality you can only stack the paid not the free ones. But! let's say the game allows you to stack the 3x free daily along with the paid ones:

Today's reset - 6x (3x free+3x paid)
Next reset - 10x (3x free+1 paid)

You still have 2x paid ones left.

[glad acorn]

The thing is, Sage always has the 3 interactions in his alt and it never adds up on reset

So the suspicion here is the 2/3 triggering the daily +3

[autumn stone]

Let's try it on my first run w/silver.

255 x 1.30 x 10/100 = 33.15
255 x 1.30 x 2/100 = 6.63
Total lvl = 40

That's skipping one day interaction where if you do the regular 6x daily

255 x 1.30 x 6/100 = 19.89
Total lvl = 20

You'll get the same result more or less

[autumn stone]

yep, the remaining 2 is the paid ones so it will carry on the next reset for a total of 5/3 then I bought 3 to make it 8/3

Rn I'm securing my rolls between 16-18+ lvls per day doing 6x using two devices method. It's much safer and efficient.

How to reroll interaction using two devices to min-max w/out worrying on dropping early.
Do interaction in the trainer's lodge to lessen the loading time since location doesn't do that much.

1. Device 1: as soon as the first topic drops and you pick your desired hot topic turn 📴 your phone's wifi. With this you can select as much SE topic as possible w/out worrying on dropping early. Just closed the app if it drops early. You'll notice the app will trigger an error coz it will attempt to upload the progress into the server.

2. Device 2: Login and go to T!lodge to recover your interaction and items.

Repeat 🔁 until you hit your desired lvl per day then turn 🔛 the internet to upload your progress.

[gray falcon]

What's the deal with cheers, is the consensus to plan expedition squads around cheers or to pretend like they don't exist

[marble hemlock]

you can use the cheer-optimized teams if you're low on silver mats.
eventually you get more silver mats than you need, and you can ignore cheers, or use them instead of omni extract to move your omni refresh timer

[autumn stone]

@marble hemlock how you doin? do we have data how much x location does per trainer to help sustain the convo? or it just works like feel ring?

[marble hemlock]

location just adds 2 location-specific conversation choices. list here^

meta is trainer lodge for everyone except Silver, and maybe reset for Places as hot topic if you're min-maxing

[autumn stone]

Thanks! I'll try later coz recently I was forcing silver in lodge can't hit 0 but I'm rockin my desired rolls, what's funny is that half of super exciting choices are not hot topic

[grim spade]

Got cynthia and blue, going for sycamore next

[wide tiger]

Tech candy by sycamore neat

57 to 72 i guess

[carmine sedge]

At least another one is done

[next sorrel]

That’s a win in my book

[urban flicker]

tomorrow, May to Lv100

of course today as well I had 2 interaction that failed miserably

[urban zinc]

Yoooooo

[urban flicker]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/858053937008214018/1006649205693108376/ezgif.com-gif-maker.gif

[urban zinc]

wtf

[jovial moon]

Tbh 100 seemed like a good place to cap it

[stuck parcel]

Do you get anything at Lv150?

Oh you mean trainer lv150

Whats the cap on trainers lodge friendship levels?

[stuck parcel]

They are gonna add methods to raise specific stats

Kinda like ev training

They did the same with Denas previous rpg, ffrk

[zealous osprey]

Glad I used golden gifts on this one

[austere viper]

Can barely get enough for silver stuff, let alone gold one, might be doing something wrong

[lost pumice]

I need 18 lvls tomorrow for May

[glad pasture]

If you have double Lv10 for the colour of the pair you're currently working on, you can do gold gift runs every few days

[late sluice]

yippee!

[jovial moon]

Congrats

[austere viper]

Current teams

[void lintel]

Holy freaking crap.

And the last turn was a choice of three +10 pointers

[wary wasp]

third pair done 😪

[random portal]

Screw off blue.

[void lintel]

May as well use some Omni Extracts on them, unless you're out of coins

[austere viper]

Need to, bought a few more . Thank

[glad acorn]

I think I have come to the conclusion that Feel Ring is unnecessary and can impede a good run. Anyone agree with that?

[orchid glade]

it does make you reset a lot more if you not using it, personally not worth it for me doing interactions individually

[glad acorn]

I think it's the opposite. You reset more when it floods your first few choices with hot topics

[orchid glade]

not for me I've gone through multiple runs with no hot topics in first three options so had to reset like 5 times once

with the ring my reset rate drops a lot to 1/3 runs

I even had lots of hot topics without ring in first three rounds so its also rng

this is testing on 5 accounts daily

[void lintel]

I dislike the ring because you run out of hot topics shortly after Max Vibes

[glad acorn]

That's what annoys me the most. I have some triple stacks during max vibes

Obviously that run was cancelled

[orchid glade]

I've had several runs without seeing hot topics without ring so can go either way after vibes

same with using ring and it depends on pair, something like May with hobbies probably will have plenty of options anyway still

if you got N then good luck

[tepid crater]

I hope N reruns soon.

I really want to have them in lodge

I only have anni N from around when i first started.

[orchid glade]

There is a banner with him but not a good rate unfortunately

[tepid crater]

yeah, I'm not going to put 40k into the cynthia banner for 1/5 N

I'm hoping next month he'll get his own fair. marnie might be first though

[urban flicker]

But even then

would you consider to really spend your gems to a get sync pair just so it can be in the trainer lodge

[tepid crater]

do you not have any favourites

I don't have any difficult content I need to clear, so I'd rather go for a character I like

[urban flicker]

Well, I also have characters that I like

[autumn stone]

Still rng depends on the pair, my concern with FR is I rarely got sustain after round 7-8 it will flood +10 topics hot/not sometimes all choices are 3x +10 so after the gifting phase the chance of getting drop early is high. But then I tested a fasion topic run with silver earlier with ring and my lowest attention was 46.

[urban flicker]

but if my gem count is low, then I am considering to not spend, or rather even if I have lot, for me personally it's a waste

[autumn stone]

My final run with blue is crazy. W/out ring and shovel I max vibe at 6th, gifted at 9th ends at 36% w/200+ pts

[austere viper]

That first pick tho 😁

[sudden forum]

Yeah, only 3/3 the following day.
Even leaving the lodge alone for several days, I never gained more than 3/3.

[carmine sedge]

Welp, I wonder who should I get next (May and Lillie done)

I don't have Cynthia, N and Marnie

[tepid crater]

objectively speaking, you're more likely to have strong water units than strong fairy units, so may will probably be a lower priority

but really both of them are neat units so go for who you prefer

one thing to consider is that you can't use may and swampert to set rain for may and wailmer.

or I realise now that I misread and you already have those two and you're measuring which to get next

[sudden forum]

N decided to check out on me at 85% in an x5 Interaction.

[autumn stone]

@sudden forum yep you can only carry the paid ones

[sudden forum]

I know.

[glad acorn]

Then I don't know how the other guy got 8 interactions

[tepid crater]

I presume you buy the extra interactions and then end the day without expending them.

[frank pelican]

The game itself says you can go up to 10 interactions

[sudden forum]

Buy 3, wait a day. Buy 3. Use 1.

[tepid crater]

I can see myself doing that once I've gotten all my lodge characters to 100/100

[orchid glade]

you can go more than ten, but you will lose them if you reset when doing multiple at same time

usually you get 6 anyway a day

[zealous osprey]

You can't. The game won't allow you to buy more than 10

[orchid glade]

you tried saving them?

[zealous osprey]

Yeah I didn't sign in for two days before, and failed using the hard reset once

[tepid crater]

so the most interactions you can have in a day is 13

[zealous osprey]

The game literally only allowed me to purchase one more refill when I have 9/3

Try it out yourself if you're curious

[tepid crater]

good to know when saving up keys for lodge stones in future, assuming we don't get more lodge characters by then

[glad acorn]

Still a wasted 3 intereactions then

[wary wasp]

but the funny 30+ leves in a day 😔

[sudden forum]

Unless you can't afford friendship keys, and you're completely maxed out, there is no reason in saving interactions.

[tepid crater]

that's what I'm saying, I don't see it being relevant for a month or two

but it's cool to have that niche knowledge regardless

[glad acorn]

Once we are done with all pairs we have, it's time to choose a pair to grind to 99999

How else would you get certificates?

[orchid glade]

interesting so that warning when resetting is pointless

[glad acorn]

I think it just means you can only keep 10 interactions at a time

[autumn stone]

If the other guy ur talkin 'bout is me then I already answered it earlier

[shrewd gorge]

Do y’all know what the chance is of getting a candy coin from your daily gift?

[orchid glade]

0.5% I think it said in pin

[shrewd gorge]

Ah gotcha thx

[orchid glade]

no problem seems I've never been lucky

[tepid crater]

that's an average of 200 days per coin. don't expect too many in a hurry haha

though I'd love some myself

[orchid glade]

with 5 accounts it should increase my chances

[nimble sinew]

I definitely wish there was some kind of strat I could learn to increase the chances of maximizing my points in interactions...

Got Cynthia and Gastrodon and I'm friendship level 97/100 for getting Silver & Feraligatr, but I feel like I could've been further along somehow...

[orchid glade]

is that with using 6 interactions a day?

[nimble sinew]

Yes it is actually

[urban flicker]

yea, it's 0,5%

[carmine sedge]

Should I go for the hardest ones next?

[urban flicker]

if you like the character or want that sync pair

Blue and Silver I believe are the hardest one for their few argoments that give 10 points

[tepid crater]

blue was the second unit I did. they didn't seem too bad

[orchid glade]

its not too bad, but it could be better I guess your luck isn't great

my luck is in lodge but not in summoning

[autumn stone]

bud what's the highest pts we can hit again? I saw 259 earlier.

[orchid glade]

max was 375 with 1.5x bonus can't remember what it is unbuffed

[tepid crater]

can you get repeat topics?

[orchid glade]

was 250 and nope no repeats

you only get a topic once in a conversation

so for example pasio will never show again

[autumn stone]

Dang that's 22-23 lvl if *6

[orchid glade]

ye if only it would happen on my first interactions, but I usually do them individually

[sick cedar]

Soon

And then uhh…this happened. Alright

[orchid glade]

you need to focus on more 10 pointers

[sick cedar]

Please explain what you mean by 10 pointers

[orchid glade]

Super exciting

interesting is bad unless it's for getting vibes

also best to vibe is round 2 or 3

I am guessing you can't buy glasses yet so you choosing anything right now?

[sick cedar]

Oh, I see. I’m kinda just guessing what stuff the game wants me to do, but I have 2 more interactions today since I prefer to go slow and not risk it. I’m also not putting much into items since I’m hyper focusing getting enough materials to max my expedition teams, but I can probably grab something for my next try.

I have just enough stuff to spare for some glasses

[orchid glade]

well just buy glasses I would say and ignore other items

you can get them later when you got slots

[sick cedar]

Alright, so when I use the glasses, then what

[orchid glade]

then you know the topic to choose for max vibe

[sick cedar]

So it’s just showing what he wants to chat about?

[orchid glade]

close game if you don't get the hot topic and vibe before turn 3

[orchid glade]

yes exactly

[sick cedar]

Now for the fun game of what text matches the topic and how vibes work since apparently I got it first try last time?

[orchid glade]

If you like reading you can check this

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jroaYpn8rnADLxsHYwDgyPgsuk2oXKkYjcPq35jJtXA/edit?usp=drivesdk

you can see what Blue likes there

[orchid glade]

Vibe is a random chance if you get the hot topic unless you buy the juice, wouldn't recommend buying it when starting

[sick cedar]

Oh lord RNG

[void lintel]

After about a week, you probably have your teams set up to pull in enough income to buy the juice every time

[orchid glade]

Yep I only really bought items after getting my slots

[sick cedar]

Yeah I’m just starting this ride, so I’m making it work with what I have. I should be getting more slots soon tho, I just had some extra stuff to grab one item

[onyx quarry]

When you get to level 50 the characters portrait turns silver

[void lintel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012298913279127582/1012753199888859197/unknown.png

[autumn stone]

I still consumed the 3x free daily and 1x paid before reset so not a waste. The remaining 2 paid ones carry on and stacks next reset to 5/3. Bought 3 to make it 8/3. 2+3+3=8

[autumn stone]

https://tenor.com/view/rosa-pokemon-eyebrows-raised-look-at-me-gif-16754817

[void lintel]

That's odd...

[sick cedar]

very soon, I’ll probably have it by tomorrow morning

[sharp bramble]

Iirc

You can stack a max of 10 interactions

[worldly ivy]

Don't try to stack

U can technically stack but

You won't get your daily 3 interactions. They don't refresh if u still have 3+ interactions. So you can stack interactions from the store, but ur losing out on 3 interactions per day as a result, getting less interactions in the end

It's like letting your stamina sit at full for several days to stack the daily bonus 200 stamina. U can stack it, but ur still missing out on days of free stamina. Same thing with interactions

[keen barn]

is there a guide to know what to choose for interactions on the available characters? nvm found it

[eternal mural]

Level 24 with syca today

Could be a lot more but i don't have time to not do x6

[pastel swallow]

got strike coin from rosa

woo hoo

trainer lodge tyvm

+1 tech coin +1 strike coin

[last trellis]

man

May has been brutal to me

4 days and only lvl 20

[orchid glade]

funny how many people fail at lodge in salt chat

if they came here they would know how to play better

[last trellis]

yeah salt channel is just cringe

[orchid glade]

especially when they use x6 and get 33 each

[analog furnace]

5th bad day in a row for Silver, but at least he’s lv94 rn. I honestly fell asleep and don’t remember how I did his last interaction or 2 tho

[last trellis]

I'm probably just on an unlucky run but salt channel complainers are legit scrubs

[analog furnace]

0 feel ring on Silver is so obnoxiously annoying to do that I’m surprised I put up with it

[orchid glade]

Ye if you can't get close to 80 on bad run then there is something wrong

[orchid glade]

I feel Silver needs ring with the lack of good options

[analog furnace]

He does for your sanity imho

[orchid glade]

luckily not done him yet

probably do Sycamore next before him lol

[blazing sapphire]

Why aren't you using feel rings

[analog furnace]

More resets, lil bit more points

In part bc I was having such bad luck for almost a week now that I was wanting to compensate

[orchid glade]

a lot more resets can be annoying when doing them individually

[analog furnace]

No Feel Ring on most other charas isn’t that bad honestly, Silver just asks for too much as it is

[analog furnace]

Yeah definitely

I don’t think it makes a major difference either if you ask me

But it does, I’d say

[orchid glade]

I've had runs without ring give all the good options in first few turns so mostly rng

[analog furnace]

Ye naturally RNG but still

I might move on to Lillie or something just to have a break from all the Fiery pairs, then go to Blue

[orchid glade]

Ye I am changing all the time, went support, striker, tech then will go support just to use different items

[analog furnace]

My favs just happened to be Fiery

N, Cynthia, Silver, Blue

[sharp bramble]

Oh phew. Hopefully tomorrow I finish off May

My priority list is Cynthia, Rosa, May, N, Silver, Lillie, Blue, Sycamore

No Marnie haha

[gray falcon]

If i see a prompt show up in an interaction, and don't pick it, can it come back later?

example: if I'm in max vibes and the hot topic is like locations, can I save a trainer lodge super exciting for later and go with a different super exciting topic not in locations and have it potentially come back later? Or is it a no diff

[narrow crown]

apparentely they dont come back, also the 3 prompts that are there when you use an item are gone from the pool of the interaction

[urban zinc]

Anyway got him

[long nymph]

Wow twice x3 interactions today ended before i can give presents...only got 5 levels today

Damn marnie

[analog furnace]

I gave a gold gift at 90 earlier bc I thought I’d make it ig & was just constantly getting unlucky, but I got unlucky again twice before this

4 interactions for 5 levels when I used 2 gold gifts somehow

[analog furnace]

Wish you better luck tomorrow

[pastel swallow]

urgh

fck

i got dropped the moment 100 got minused

wtf

and its 6 interactions at one go

[glad acorn]

Every day is extracts from lodge

[carmine sedge]

Well, aren't you hard to please Blue

[random nexus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/651487075576709166/1022408507162640425/Screenshot_20220922-092541.jpg?width=335&height=670 2 days in a row

now do i go for rosa or sycamore

not biased answers only

[winter galleon]

Do you have Silver if not then Rosa

[random nexus]

sounds good

[autumn stone]

Let's both end our friendship with silver tom I need to hit 200+ in a 4x interaction.

[urban flicker]

Lillie leaving right after max vibes at 95%

great mode

[orchid glade]

At least I should finish my accounts tomorrow for my third pair

[warm cape]

What’s your interaction record?

Got 228 on Cynthia today

Ended previous one with 200pts with 5% attention

[urban flicker]

250 on May, 0% attention

[warm cape]

Is 300 possible?

[orchid glade]

250 was on 13/100 so could have gotten 280 or something that's not including 1.5x bonus

375 is my max so far with bonuses

[rancid lance]

3 pairs down 6 to go

[orchid glade]

yes unfortunately don't have access to all of them

[worldly ivy]

y'all already being done 3 scare me

[orchid glade]

not yet but will tomorrow

on 97

was my best today

[rancid lance]

3 is fast? I assumed others had 4 already done

I have to wait til tomorrow to start on the 4th pair

[worldly ivy]

I haven't done today's 6 interactions yet but am currently at lvl 66 on my 3rd one, so still got a few more days before I can start my 4th one

[sharp bramble]

If I’m lucky I’ll be done tomorrow with my 3rd May

[rancid lance]

Now that my Fiery mats are back up I can do Blue, then ig May to recover Fiery and Wistful mats so I can get N after

Have Cynthia Marnie and Rosa so I think my order will be Blue > May > N > Lillie > Silver > Sycamore until we get more pairs

[analog furnace]

I hit lv100 today 'cause I still had some more interactions luckily, but I wish you the best of luck tomorrow

[jovial moon]

congrats

[dapper scarab]

my man really gave me this and said “be grateful for it”

[jovial moon]

[little walrus]

Close one

[sonic stream]

I'm only at 58 on my 3rd because the game cheats you when trying to x6

Had to go back to 6 separate ones and I still only get 10-12 per day. Game hates me

[rancid lance]

I started doing all 6 because I’m not really interested in most of the Lodge pairs atm, I’ll get them eventually and who knows when they’ll add more (probably around half Anni)

[carmine pilot]

Guys do you have any good double Blue/Chest setup?
This is the best i got but i'm not really fine with it
{ A and B }

[sharp solar]

Move Lillie up in team A

[little walrus]

I do all 6 to speed it up I had 2 5-6 level days past 2. Its just not worth it to waste time running singles when they leave at 85-90% 5/6 runs anyway

[urban flicker]

I started today on my 4th sync pair to level 100

[sick cedar]

I did it, I’ve maxed my expedition teams out, now I need to figure out how to material

[autumn stone]

That's great gz man! On to the next one. I'm picking may.

[autumn stone]

I can't remember how many orbs I already get w/cynthia, now she's providing me daily extracts

[dapper scarab]

[noble locust]

Something feels nerfed last couple of days

• all the interactions are ending in the 80s or 70s
• barely ever have a chance to use the silver or gold attention boost items because convos end before they can be optimally used

[urban flicker]

you don't wait for the time where a gift can be optimally used

for example a gold gift waiting to get attention under 80%

You use it early at like 85%

same for the silver gift

[dense saddle]

Choose your death wisely

Context: 2 options are of fashion and I nearly clicked on hairstyles 💀

[vestal kraken]

Hair isn't fashion?

[quasi sigil]

Hairstyles is a 7 pointer for him

Only Accessories is a 10 pointer there iirc

[keen wolf]

All of them are fashion on turn 1 which is why you should restart

[dense saddle]

I reset but rng failed me

[keen wolf]

It do be like that

[quasi sigil]

Reset? I just take the L and cry

[little walrus]

You cant reset after answering the question where they leave

Even if you are fast

[carmine pilot]

Yes you can if you dc when convo starts
Since the data are stored somewhere you can basically do 2 things, and both works:

• Unistall/Reinstall
• Play on another phone

[keen wolf]

I wonder if you can locate the data with rooted phone and modify it

[carmine pilot]

Probably, but i think there's no point in pushing it so far

After all once you maxed everyone you can't go further

[sick cedar]

These are probably the dumbest things I’ve made, but is this how you get things good

[carmine pilot]

You don't have lillie or plumeria?

[sick cedar]

On which team should I add them

I have two Lillies and Plumeria

[carmine pilot]

Team B is f2p friendly and it's 10 red 10 chests

[sick cedar]

okay I don’t have two people on A but I can get B team

[carmine pilot]

Plus, you can go nosense in team A if you want

Just put +3 x3 for two resources

[sick cedar]

Maybe my math is wrong but it didn’t add up to 10 alone. Whatever tho, I have some items to fix it

[carmine pilot]

That's team A

You must do it on B

Just move the whole team on B

[sick cedar]

That makes no sense? Is the output different?

[carmine pilot]

A got innate +1/+1/0/0
B got innate 0/0/+1/+1

Try remove everyone, you'll see

[sick cedar]

What the heck

That’s so stupid

[carmine pilot]

Yeah, kinda weird

But everything helps

[sick cedar]

Ugh whatever I guess we going with just pure Kalos on A and Alola on B because buffs

[carmine pilot]

If you can, use the omni potion

Even if it's small, the two resources at 1 will give something to help getting glasses and shovel daily

[sick cedar]

Alright, I’ll toss some on since I have cash from doing nothing with my coins

[carmine pilot]

If you daily farmed evo materials, sell them
I got 20M from them

[void lintel]

Alola's easiest to build for in general

Trial Giver stat spread is +3 to one color and -1 to another; you can just stack the -1s onto a color you're not trying to farm with that team

Kalos has it rough because it only has three +3/-1 characters in the region (Diantha, Wikstrom, Siebold). Elite Four members and Champions also have that stat spread, and... Kalos only has half its Elite Four

(I think only Johto and Galar have it worse)

[carmine pilot]

Galar isn't that bad

[void lintel]

No Elite Four at all

[carmine pilot]

Just lacks of uniqueness

[void lintel]

Really hard to build an Expedition team with Galar

Not a lot of characters and the only ones with +3 are Leon and (for some weird reason) Allister

[carmine pilot]

4 are glorias, 3 leons, 3 marnies
I can't actually build something

[void lintel]

That's a problem too. Alts instead of new characters

...And I have zero Glorias and zero Marnies

[carmine pilot]

That's my team B

[void lintel]

Two seasonals

[carmine pilot]

Barry is always a savior, i just put him anywhere

But Blue and Chests are hard to combine

[void lintel]

There isn't a Support with +3 Chest, yeah

Kalos could do it if the Chantelaines and its Elite Four finish releasing

[carmine pilot]

Yep
Also Johto could do it if only we get more chest units. The only free is silver
The other is Gioking

[void lintel]

If Unova Villain Arc comes out and we get Team Plasma Admins, that could help us do something with Hilbert's region bonus

[carmine pilot]

Yeah! Was thinking about hilbert right now
Unova is so close to be a good Blue/Cache combination

[void lintel]

The Johto Team Rocket Execs are probably gonna have to wait for the Villain Arc finale...

So Johto's gonna stay cursed for a good bit longer yet

[carmine pilot]

So we bet on Unova

But i think the next VA should be Kalos bcs we have literally no units

[void lintel]

I suspect the next villain arc might be Alola, due to the all-Alola grid expansions this Masters' Day

[carmine pilot]

[void lintel]

Unova, on the other hand, is supported by "They went in generational order aside from Sinnoh being released early for the BD/SP release"

If we get Lusamine (Villain), Gladion (Villain), and/or Hau (Rival) as a Support... a Blue/Rare Alola might be possible

[carmine pilot]

MF Gladion unit
But i doubt it will be supp

[void lintel]

Kris is the first... They really didn't wanna give us Master Supports

But tbh it doesn't have to be a Master Pair this time

Could be a genpool (like Masked Royal) or regular Fair (like Gioking)

[carmine pilot]

Yeah, but thinking again, i never taught of Cynthia as a support and here we got a supp mf Cynthia

[void lintel]

Neither Master Support has +Speed, IIRC, making them trickier to build around

Fortunately for Cynthia, she has Bea and Wally and Korrina with self +Speed

[carmine pilot]

Kris at 2/5 got team swift reaction4
And Cynthia gauge accel with her b-move

They're quite huge anyway

I candied ssKris just today

[void lintel]

Gauge accel, on a team without Speed buffs, is basically teamwide +1 Speed

...That's not much unless you do, in fact, have Speed already

SSKris needing 2/5 means probably spending a candy, and that's a bit oof

[maiden haven]

+1 Speed isn't 1.5 is it

[carmine pilot]

I usually save candies, got 5 supp candy, it took a while since her release but 2/5 ssKris unlocks: Endure, teamSwiftReaction4, Refreshing rain1 and Staggering 2 (30% flinch chance)
I think it's a pgood investment

[void lintel]

It is. +Speed buffs are double the multiplier of other stats

Other stats give 1.25x at +1
Speed is 1.50x at +1

It's done this way to make a singletarget Speed buff more meaningful

...but then they had Skyla available at launch and then everyone just used her

One use of Take Flight is 1.8x gauge income

It's also why you can get away with having two self-Speed buffers instead of one teamwide Speed buffer

The other reason being the Speed weighting on the team

[grizzled pagoda]

Wait so u can only close and restart the app 10 times then it won’t give u the stuff back?

[void lintel]

Not that.

You can only stockpile 10 hearts at a time

If the refund from restarting would bring you above 10

Then the excess are deleted.

Not that it matters since most days you'll only have 3-6

[grizzled pagoda]

Ok and what’s better 5 point hot topic or 10 point no hot topic?

[grizzled pagoda]

?^

[void lintel]

You start each day with 3/3

You can buy 3 more each day to end up at possibly 6/3

[void lintel]

This error message is telling you that you can never exceed 10/3.

Even if you somehow would have gone above 10/3, the excess will simply be deleted

This.

Never goes above 10.

[grizzled pagoda]

Ohh my bad I meant did u have an answer to this lol

[void lintel]

Absolutely not

[grizzled pagoda]

[void lintel]

There are wayyyyyy too many variables for me to even start thinking about trying to theorycraft it

[grizzled pagoda]

Alright I see what u mean

[void lintel]

I tend to go with the Hot 5pt Topic but I have no idea if that's actually best

[grizzled pagoda]

But that makes me think the +10 would be better since they can leave anytime anyway

Yea idk

But… so the location does matter

[void lintel]

It might be true! I don't know!

[analog furnace]

I just go:
10pt hot topic > 7pt hot topic > 10pt > 5pt hot topic

[void lintel]

Yeah, each location has a few topics that don't necessarily spawn in other locations

e.g. the Trainer Lodge is ideal for most guests since it spawns Pasio and, er, Trainer Lodge

Which are 10pt topics for 8 of the 9 guests (the last one being Silver)

(Silver has only one location-specific 10pt topic. It's Partner Pokémon, in Lear's manor)

[analog furnace]

Yeah, and 7pt PML I suppose

[grizzled pagoda]

Does n have a best location

[analog furnace]

All but Silver are Lodge, as he says

[grizzled pagoda]

alright

[shadow bramble]

Why is Silver different?

[void lintel]

He doesn't have 10pts for Pasio or Trainer Lodge

He's not excited for f r i e n d s h i p, you see

[analog furnace]

And he has a 10pt & 7pt topic in Partner Pokemon & PML in the Villa ye

[shadow bramble]

Ah

When do you unlock Villa?

[void lintel]

Like Lv40 or 45

[sick cedar]

Silver is afraid of friends confirmed /j

[void lintel]

...So it takes a while...

[analog furnace]

It's like lv45-ish honestly

I just stay in Lodge until then

[void lintel]

May as well, since there's no loadscreen or traveling scene transition

[analog furnace]

Meanwhile, Friends are his biggest topic

7 10pt answers

[sick cedar]

Strange man

[analog furnace]

Gon puts it well hold up

[void lintel]

Here's an incomplete list of known "this topic spawns in this location" stuff.
Since then, Adventure was also found on the road

[shadow bramble]

Oh, just one more thing. Do I always go for Hot Topic after Max Vibes has ended?

[analog furnace]

[void lintel]

I would, but as mentioned earlier, I'm not sure if it's actually ideal due to not knowing how to theorycraft it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1012298913279127582/1022587394542809138/unknown.png

[sick cedar]

Feels about right

Honestly half of the fun is trying to figure out what to do, more points or Max Vibes. Just like real friendships /lh

[analog furnace]

Just remember that both 10pt answers & hot topic answers are good. You can decide if you wanna try taking a 5pt hot topic over a 10pt answer as Gigafreak does, but I don't for the reason he mentioned

[void lintel]

The duality of Man.

[shadow bramble]

Hm, taking a 5/7 point Hot Topic might be good if there aren't any 10 pts that turn

[analog furnace]

Though I'd still feel pretty comfortable taking 7pt hot topic over 10pt

[sick cedar]

True true, worth getting less attention drops at least a little

[shadow bramble]

[sick cedar]

First level 10 let’s get it

[jovial moon]

Congrats

[night tide]

Silver hates me

[void lintel]

That's okay

Silver hates everyone

[night tide]

Hes my only high level pair and even then he’s only 70

I just want feralgatr ):

And to 150 my Kris

[grizzled pagoda]

Wow items make such a big difference

[nimble sinew]

So for those of you who have 6 expedition slots per team, what levels are you guys using for the 4 different items (i.e. rare cache, crystals, etc.)

[carmine pilot]

Keep at least one cache at 10
Then focus on mats for the unit you're leveling

Aim always at 9 or 10 for those resources
Just think that lvl 10 has almost twice the drops of lvl 7

So don't do abominations like 5 3 4 9

[last trellis]

i max rare chests on both and max whichever my unit uses the most on both

[void lintel]

If I could form the 10Blue+10Cache team, I'd do that plus a 10Red+10Cache team.
There are only two of the nine guests who use Yellow, and I don't even have one of those two... So I just let the two 10Cache drops supply me with Yellows

It's speculated that a new Lodge Guest will be revealed on Oct 1, though, so this might change.

We'll probably find out when the update is preloaded-- and datamineable-- in a few days

[maiden haven]

on datamine, so should be 28th the latest

[dense sonnet]

i maxed blue what should be the next one? i have silver, may, rosa and sycamore

[worldly ivy]

My biased opinion is Silver

[vestal kraken]

What pair is Marnie with?

[void lintel]

Might mostly come down to which crystal color you want to spend

[void lintel]

Morpeko? Or do you mean Toxicroak

[vestal kraken]

I mean lodge pair, which I guess is Toxicroak.

I was trying to decide do I go for N, but my silver red stuff is getting depleted after 2 back to back red pairs. Or go for another color?

[void lintel]

If you can level him fast enough, N could be useful for the current Gauntlet challenge

Sleep shenanigans vs Cobalion

But that aforementioned red-crystal shortage might be a problem

[vestal kraken]

Yeah

I barely get enough red silver to get items for interactions each day.

Which would be 6, plus the juice, glasses, shovel, and the ring.

[void lintel]

Oh.

Ditch the ring.

Problem solved

That's not an exaggeration

I skip the ring and I have plenty of silver crystals

[vestal kraken]

Oh

It's that bad?

[void lintel]

I'll explain

The ring can sabotage you

No convo option will spawn more than once in the same convo

There're a limited number of Hot Topic options per character/topic

The ring will summon those to you in the first 7 turns or so, and then you'll have none left for subsequent turns

And... four of those first 7 turns don't have Attention drain anyway

Turn 1 and 2 don't drain Attention; Max Vibes gets you another two turns without Attention drain

And you can reset for a Hot Topic on Turn 3, so the Ring doesn't necessarily help you there

[random cloud]

Oh, a topic that appears won’t appear again regardless of whether you pick it or not

Good to know

[void lintel]

If you give a present, you also discard the current three options

[vestal kraken]

And is it best to give preset before or after max vibes?

[void lintel]

The multiplier happens across the entire convo's score regardless of when you give it

So you ideally want to give it when it would heal the Attention% for most or all of its value

...Also the Reset-for-a-Hot-Topic-on-Turn-3 method has 100% Attention right before Max Vibes

So that's no Attention heal that way

[vestal kraken]

Okay thanks that really makes a lot of sense about both things. Thank you so much for the detailed explanation. I think Blue will be done today, he is at 90 today.

Really appreciate a well detailed explanation.

[fierce bay]

does using multiple interactions at once put a negative multiplier on attention

[blazing sapphire]

No

Exactly the same

[fierce bay]

cool i've just been getting insanely unlucky then lmfao

[blazing sapphire]

[shut lagoon]

Oh, I just checked my expeditions and both teams have x99 chests
Is that a cap or just coincidence?

[carmine sedge]

I think cap is 100

[grizzled pagoda]

It is

[wide tiger]

250 iirc

[wide tiger]

Somewhat failed on the last part oh wells

[atomic pelican]

Now…Who to do next

[carmine sedge]

Goddamn Blue dropped me at 91%

Yeah I was right, he really is hard to please

[dense saddle]

Worst date ever
0/10

[gentle flax]

Can anyone give me a team they use for yellow shards that also gets 9-10 for rare cache

[carmine sedge]

That's how mine went today

[pale cedar]

Cynthia dropped me at 91 twice today

[verbal prairie]

Wow for silver that's much better than I expected

[urban flicker]

"Words spoken by pokemon"

what kinda option is this for Lillie

[random portal]

"get in the bag Nebby."

Nebby: No u.

[glad acorn]

It's a bad topic to go for Lillie

[urban flicker]

also

is it just me or I never get the option "Bustling places" to choose from

[woven sierra]

yo, can anyone share their +10 chest and blue team

I haven't been able to make one

[urban flicker]

it's the hardest one to make

10 chest and 10 blue

[woven sierra]

no wonder

[urban flicker]

@woven sierra

[woven sierra]

ty

[urban flicker]

you can check the pinned document for more teams

[sharp bramble]

Aww yiss 3rd lodge trainer done

You’re up next N

[urban flicker]

that x6 I think was kinda wasted

since May was lv91, and you could have gotten her to 100 without using 6 interaction, and use the rest of them on the other sync pair

[sharp bramble]

I DON’T TRUST THE GODDAMN LODGE

[urban flicker]

It's better to have a bad interaction rather then having a bad interaction where you use all the interaction at once, at least you have other tries

[urban zinc]

I've seen worse

[gray falcon]

how long do cheers last?

[frigid fiber]

12 h

[graceful granite]

Next is rosa

[untold coral]

Just wanna showcase hehehe

[orchid glade]

Third guest done now working on Sycamore next as I wanted to do blue items again

[wary wasp]

from yesterday

[orchid glade]

Where I ended today on Sycamore

[keen summit]

So yesterday I tried to reset my interaction and I suppose it registered a selection as I was closing the app. Logged back in to see one level gained for a stack of three interactions

The game is apologizing today, which is nice

[orchid glade]

you can't reset once it decides its ended

[keen summit]

It was the third choice selection and I had no good options, so I tried to reset it

I guess my finger was a little to high so it picked an answer first

[orchid glade]

probably when you tried to close the game you accidentally selected an option

[keen summit]

That’s exactly what I said happened

[wary wasp]

the floor is made out of floor?

[austere viper]

Does the location affect anything?

[sharp solar]

Adds a few topics

Trainer lodge is the best for everyone but Silver

[urban flicker]

About that

has the option "Bustling places" ever appeared for you

in interaction

[sharp solar]

It has, yes

[urban flicker]

for me still not

or maybe it's very rare

[sharp solar]

What place do you go to?

[urban flicker]

trainer lodge

[sharp solar]

That's why

[urban flicker]

I figured it was due to the location, which one is it?

[sharp solar]

This

[urban flicker]

thanks

[sonic stream]

Wait the location you are in determines what options they have?

[blazing sapphire]

Slightly.

[sonic stream]

I am consistently getting 12 levels per day since switching back from x6 to individuals

Still annoyed but want my efficiency back over bad luck rages

[sick cedar]

So, gifts right? Should I spend stuff on them for the character I want to get higher or is it just not worth it?

[blazing sapphire]

Always spend gifts

[void lintel]

The multiplier is good, and the attention% heal is great

[sick cedar]

Which tier? Any of them or the highest? Since I have enough for some pendants of any types.

[blazing sapphire]

Higher gives more multipliers, although impossible to get enough to use gold every time

[thin crystal]

Gold takes a lot just to only get like 1 or 2

[void lintel]

Just use the highest available

What else are you going to use your tier3 stones on

If you're not buying Feel Rings, you can afford the tier2 stones easily too

[sharp bramble]

Wait the lodge?

Does everybody love the PML?