Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)

[vestal leaf]

Here's where you come when you wanna save not when you wanna talk about shafts

[lilac crescent]

Not to criticize but that was a bad idea. Spend when you have atleast a full pity (36,600 gems), this is a gacha game so expect failure.

[vestal leaf]

^

Never pull if you're under pity UNLESS you know you can reach 36600 gems by the banner last day

[lilac crescent]

|| Or unless you're willing to put faith in the gacha gods but mostly what we said before||

[vestal leaf]

DeNa: oops, you meant Sina & Dexio with shiny pokefair espeon and umbreon right?

[tardy fiber]

I experienced this on zerena banner, i did a very careful calculation and managed to get her 2 days before her banner expires via pity

I dont want to feel that again

Thus i save a lot

[tough oriole]

Honestly that would be goated

[crude glacier]

right?

[tardy fiber]

Done for this month, now i can chill and wait for datamine. Can enter next month with 3 pities of gems

[robust shore]

Nice!

||Iono was tempting as I do like her as a character. But I got plenty of other units that need investing so I convinced myself to not pull haha||

||There's always selects in the future, I tell myself (delusional)||

[tardy fiber]

Its free gems, my paid gems only got 2.9k smh

Why i still got whale

[orchid lark]

Datamine is in next week frfr

[tardy fiber]

I cannot even afford a select

[orchid lark]

Oct 25th
idc anymore
If its on 28th-
im crying
If its earlier
HELL YES

[tardy fiber]

I predict it will be 28th because its monday, 25th will be so early plus fall iono daily login gift is still available during that time. But yeah the earlier the better

[orchid lark]

Well true
But we will get the new events on possibly oct 31st and early nov so maybe 25th is better-
but imma cry if its on 28th

I just need to know if submas reruns
LIKE
PLSSSSSSSSSSS--

ingo suffered ENOUGH DENA
ITS BEEN MORE THAN A YEAR COME ONNNNN

[fallen path]

monkey paw curls paid select rerun

[orchid lark]

no
I'm f2p

[gloomy holly]

Good thing seasonals are a skip for me unless something tickles my fancy

[tardy fiber]

I need more seasonals, so far i only have 6 seasonal faves

Palentine fave is still 0, sad

Only enamorus and manaphy kinda fits for it

[crude glacier]

yall have seasonals other than free anni lillie?

never pulled on those yet

[vestal leaf]

They're the best

Outfit wise

Pokefair sygnas are rarely as good

[crude glacier]

Indeed, unfortunately their performance is usually underwhelming

Would’ve probably pulled on ||iono|| if she was slightly better

[vestal leaf]

Kits don't matter in PoMa anyway

Oh no this unit can't beat an UB easily? Better spend thousands of gems on meta to get those 300 ones

[tardy fiber]

Yeap, i just pull if its a fave

I have more fun playing with my fave rather than a 99,999 damage non fave unit

[vestal leaf]

Ye

[crude glacier]

Oh no no don’t get me wrong I also have more fun with faves

But sometimes there are ebes of a type or a region that I have bad units (like grass and galar) and I can’t beat the 2nd or even the 1st phase even if I invest on f2p units (which I sometimes do)

So I kind have to give priority to those themes that I’m struggling if I want to get all the gems in the month

[orchid lark]

Welp
I made my poll about datamine date speculation and
most people wanted datamine on the 25th as you can see here

Now I'm conflicted--

[vestal leaf]

Ofc they do

Everyone wants it asap

[orchid lark]

Especially cuz of the.....
cough cough
dev letter
cough cough

[orchid lark]

Everyone obviously wanna know the new PF upgrading thingy
Either 5 new move levels or something else COMPLETELY different.
But idk if it even WILL be on the 25th...

[vestal leaf]

It'll be on Dev letter

Which will be between 25 and 29

[tardy fiber]

I just leave the EBE though kinda dont want to spend 36600 or 45600 pity just to get 300 gems. So far the hardest EBE i done is adaman. I used a cs2 Dawn torterra to cheese it

[crude glacier]

valid option

but most of the time I grab the stuff I need that I choose carefully

so right now I need grass for example, and I almost scouted for ss lyra, but prefered adaman since he’s a slightly more fav than her
point being get what you like the most out of a category that’s lackluster

you gotta have fun and be able to not suffer during the content — that’s what I’m trying to say

[tardy fiber]

I still need a stronger grass, but i will wait till DeNa release another grass fave

[orchid lark]

Well then
If dev letter will be in these days
datamine when?

[vestal leaf]

25 or 28

[sturdy hatch]

Two shiny horsea one shiny psyduck and yet I didn't get all the 3 bars

[tardy fiber]

Wait, aint all shiny eggmons has 3 passives?

[sturdy hatch]

Yeah, so that's two!

[versed flame]

do we know whether the happy coins will carry over to next month or not ?

[vestal leaf]

Doubt about that

Most likely they get exchanged for coins before next box

Or each box has different tokens

[upbeat lotus]

according to the event info the coins will convert when the next rotation arrives

[broken mulch]

Convert really?

That seems too good to be true

[upbeat lotus]

are you happy about the monthly coins being turned into the useless coins

[broken mulch]

Doesn’t track with how they’ve been doing their event currency

[upbeat lotus]

[broken mulch]

Uhh

That’s coins

As in our money

Which we basically only use to buy lodge expedition items nowadays haha

[upbeat lotus]

that's my point earlier

[broken mulch]

Ohh I misread it my bad lol

[tardy fiber]

Not sure, but i keep my remaining ones as experiment

I dont mind if it changes to coins, pool 7 is full of trash anyway. Yep there's but i dont mind losing some of it

[tardy fiber]

Oh i see, you hope to get shiny slowpoke, shiny squirtle and shiny drowzee. I managed to get them all ||but i spend 1k paid for it , i think like 200 paid for each is worthwhile because im missing all 5 shinies||

Anyway i wont need to spend for eevee day though, i already did last year and got em all

Much better value as they are 8 of em

[orchid lark]

Man
||I'm tempted to pull for volo smh||
||I haven't pulled in a WHILLLEEEEEE||
||and my hope for a submas rerun is just....very low at this point||

[feral vale]

Ya know #pull-simulator exists

[orchid lark]

[orchid lark]

But like on a srs note
||should I pull?||
||bro will be gone before datamine i think||

[feral vale]

You’re asking the saving channel this, my dude
If he isn’t a fav, skip

[orchid lark]

He's a fav my friend

||He's been a fav before submas even||

[feral vale]

Then why do you need to ask lmao

Unless your gems are low, then I can see.

[orchid lark]

coughs at my 90k gems
The problem is
Submas MIGHT rerun at nov so
AAAAAAAAAAAA

[feral vale]

Here is how I look at it
You already have enough for two pities
If you are just under the second pity next month (if they rerun), you’ll have time to build up to that second pity. ||Assuming you spend for Volo.||

[orchid lark]

[feral vale]

I also did not realize the banner ends just before PoMa Day…that’s not a bad time to wait for either.

||Volo|| is a big fav for me too, so I understand wanting him :)))

Crying, I forgot to spoiler

[trim heron]

I understand the same

[orchid lark]

[orchid lark]

Now I'm very ready to pull for ||volo|| but
One problem
I don't wanna spend my gems-
I loves my 90k gems😭😭
Its a flex to me
If its submas yes but
its still my precious gems

[tardy fiber]

Submas, especially if you aim for Ingo will always have possibilities because he doesn't have EXR yet. DeNa usually rerun a banner when they give EXR. Iirc only 16 pokefairs left without EXR

[tough oriole]

I guess if you’re a bajillionaire like Lear, you can follow this advice

[tardy fiber]

True poma coins are kinda useless

Lately i only use it to buy omni expedition potions

[tough oriole]

I still buy the eggmon mats and stuff, you never know if they’ll increase the rate at which they release eggmons or smth

[lilac crescent]

Same. Ez Eggmon buffs.

[tardy fiber]

I need more eggmon move candies, i try to make them all 3/5 because i still coping for grids

[orchid lark]

Doing great!!

But this bro || || is tempting me rn

[vestal leaf]

If fave, scout
If not fave, skip

It's that easy

[orchid lark]

He's a fav

that's the problem

Yet
Possible submas (or just ingo) rerun on nov--

idk anymore

[vestal leaf]

They're rerunning but you have the gems

For all 3

Implying

• you get unlucky on all 3
• submas aren't in same banner

You still get all 3 with the next month's gems

[orchid lark]

So that means
||I can FINALLY pull for volo now?||

[vestal leaf]

It's your choice

You're the only person who knows how much you like the character

[orchid lark]

I love this bro dw
Been a || || fan since PLA's release
before I even KNEW submas

[vestal leaf]

Then irdk what to tell you kek

[orchid lark]

[orchid lark]

Imma say goodbye to my gems cuz 1 pity is about to be spend on ||||

vatner im sorry but I had to

I'm thinking if I should pull for |||| instead since he's ALSO a fav to me
But
he's part of lodge monthly banners now
So ik he could rerun soon in a few months later.

[vestal leaf]

Yeah no pressure for lodge pfs

[orchid lark]

YAY!!!!

[tardy fiber]

|| || is not available in lodge PF yet? I haven't checked but he became a guest for quite a while now

[feral vale]

Has not been there once

[tardy fiber]

I see,kabu and iono got the same treatment, not sure why but Lear get added immediately

[tardy fiber]

Unless they plan for Kabu and ||volo|| alt soon

Like iono got 1 alt this month but she cannot become a featured lodge due to lear

Maybe her's will be next month

[crude glacier]

old unit

probably

we dont have any 2022 and beyond units on the lodge banner

[orchid lark]

True

[orchid lark]

EVERYONE GOOD NEWS
***I pulled for |||| ***
||AND GOT HIM IN MY 2ND MULTI||

I HAVE 86K NOW!!!!

[upbeat lotus]

[orchid lark]

||bro saved me from spending a pity||
WHICH IS GOOD
||I STILL HAVE 2 PITIES FOR SUBMAS WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOO||

[upbeat lotus]

||i'm sure you are strong enough to be able to save 8 pities, because that's when they will rerun /s||

[orchid lark]

[upbeat lotus]

i was kidding

[orchid lark]

you got me for a sec-

[upbeat lotus]

maybe they will get a rerun when they unlock the new 5/5 feature?

[orchid lark]

Ingo yes cuz no EXR yet
Emmet tho.........
idk,bro was reruned in April this year

[upbeat lotus]

there is no confirmation on that, as DeNA has never been consistent in terms of bringing back banners

[orchid lark]

Nah fr tho

I have a theory of them reruning both Emmet and ingo cuz of EXRs
Both submas have EXRS
so why not reruning them both?
They work with each other after all!

[vestal leaf]

They said all PFs will get an upgrade and we got massive reruns the same month

[upbeat lotus]

oh they did say about those who get the upgrade getting a rerun too?

[vestal leaf]

I feel like it's predictable for them to rerun most MFs that didn't just rerun on Anni between now and January

No but it's expectable

As they usually rerun all units that get an upgrade

Plus, it would fill an usually empty November

[upbeat lotus]

make sense

[vestal leaf]

It definitely also makes sense as bait for Dec MFs

I'm definitely expecting all PFs who haven't rerun in last 3-4 months to rerun between now and January

[orchid lark]

SUBMAS RERUN DENA COME ONNNNNNNN

[tardy fiber]

True. It will be weird for them to not take the opportunity to rerun bunch of pokefairs alongside the big update

We got 86 pokefairs currently, if they divide it by 3 months, there will be close 29 units a month. We might get a pokefair banner A, B, C, D, E with 5/6 pokefairs each in it

Im glad that you have 2 pities, they might put Ingo and Emmet in 2 different banners

[lilac crescent]

I do wish we'd get more spotlight units. Even if we just got a Sprint unit in the general pool.

[crude glacier]

wouldnt hurt to add a paldea unit to the gen pool

[lilac crescent]

True!

Especially with the Paldea event running.

[orchid lark]

Yes
Thanks to ||volo|| for coming ||VERY early|| and saved me from spending a pity
im glad
But putting the twins in Separate banners?.....

[orchid lark]

Hmm
Emmet has been reruned since
April...
That means
Its been 6 months since he last rerun....
gasp
THERE'S A CHANCE!!!!!

[warm tiger]

I'm at 42k rn

Is it better waiting for an eventual Neo Champ Serena rerun or ||going for the 2/5 SS Serena||

[dark oar]

wut?

spoiler the upcoming banner name.

[warm tiger]

Oop-

Sorry

[dark oar]

also what do you mean by 2/5?

[warm tiger]

I forget what the dupe system in this game is called

I already have ||her|| do I go for a second copy or save

[dark oar]

definitely save.

the dupe system is either another copy, but... the better one is Candies.

you can collect those Candy Coins if you play regularly.

you need a specific candy coin color to trade with a candy.

for her case, its a Strike Candy Move Coin (Red looking one)

[warm tiger]

Got it, thanks!

[orchid lark]

this whole server is making me lose hope for an ingo or submas rerun....

[gloomy canopy]

I'm saving it from 100%

[orchid lark]

[orchid lark]

is this even a joke or srs cuz I'm coping HARDD rn

[narrow lodge]

How to see per day gem breakdown

??

[upbeat lotus]

+pins

[jade lava]

See below on how to check channel pins!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/957144362624634931/1214245497754091570/Pin.mp4?ex=65f8693e&is=65e5f43e&hm=b9d9e7a1a428377ebb0ef122514359d2405dd3f4e0775c17f2146eb06ca90a67&

[versed flame]

honestly considering they're upgrading Every Pokefair Ever over the next few months i feel like chances of submas rerun are higher than ever

[upbeat lotus]

Surely they won't be thrown into a overcrowded banner with abysmal rates right

[orchid lark]

I have 2 pities so idc about that

[orchid lark]

GASPS
YESYEYSYESYEYSEYYSYEYSYEYSYEYSYEYSYEYSYEYSYEYSYEYSYEYSYESYEYSYEYSYEYSYEYSYEYSEYSYEYSYEYSYEYSYEYSEYYEYSYEYEYSYEYS

[narrow lodge]

wdym i didnt understand

[versed flame]

last dev letter

this thing ^

[vestal leaf]

72 hours banner but it's 2 weeks long kappa

[upbeat lotus]

An easy skip banner, got it

[orchid lark]

"as to all existing fair exclusive sync pairs in three installments:in late October,late November and late December"
"this update will expand further the possibilities for you're fair exclusive sync pairs"
FUCK YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

SUBMAS RERUN HAPPENING

But they say late October
Meaning were getting reruns VERY early
Possible after datamine in a few days

Maybe oct 31st

[narrow lodge]

Wdym by submas rerun

[orchid lark]

Ehem
This is submas

Their pokefair
Characters that I REALLY R E A L L Y wanted
Been waiting for their rerun since July
Their reruning ALOT of pokefairs in oct,nov and dec
So the chance of ingo and emmet reruning is massively high

[narrow lodge]

Okay

[orchid lark]

Now imma celebrate

submas rerun happening

But
which month??.......

[tardy fiber]

Just save some pities till January

Iirc they will finish it up in january

[broken mulch]

Oh hey finally back to pity

[oak crest]

they will have to rerun for EXR upgrade

(at least for ingo)

[orchid lark]

NAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
GUYS STOP GIVING ME COPE

[tardy fiber]

Ingo at least aint much more cope than emmet.

Well the most copium is Ash rerun. Cannot beat that.

[orchid lark]

Jessie and James too

[versed flame]

me joining after Ash

oh well

[orchid lark]

Same

I joined during NOV 2022

[narrow lodge]

Is he gonna rerun soon and why

[tardy fiber]

Nah he wont rerun

[narrow lodge]

Whyyy 😭😭

[tardy fiber]

Even his battle theme got removed 1 day earlier before his battle event ended

[narrow lodge]

What does it mean

What's battle theme

And

What will rerun on new year mostly

[trim heron]

past full year anni pairs have rerun around New Year before

2nd anni pairs before NY 2023, 3rd anni pairs during NY 2024

[orchid lark]

He's an event character
Bascially a collab character.
They come to the game
and will never come back after their gone
That's how collabs work

Unless if the anime company decides to collab with dena again to bring back ash and maybe team rocket then sure

But ash's story ended and liko and roy are the new protags
so the chance of him reruning is just........gone

[lilac crescent]

Honestly I'd rather pull for them.

[orchid lark]

What vantner meant
Is that
Ash's battle theme was removed after the event and banner are gone
If they kept his theme
That means they wanna rerun and bring back ash just like they do with other characters and events but they deleted it this time

And ash didn't appeared in 5th anni videos so that ALSO is a 100% confirmed of no rerun at all

[broken folio]

Gather more prayers from other players, and hope for their rerun on the Halloween Day

[orchid lark]

I'm just hoping for a 25th datamine
They said they wanna rerun PFs or show the new upgrade feature on late oct so

[broken folio]

Early datamine will be nice

[orchid lark]

[gloomy canopy]

Hi udon

[broken folio]

Alola

[orchid lark]

Honestly
If submas and other PFs reruns on Halloween day
I would be gone from hype and happiness

[broken folio]

Lets hope for one more thing then
Generosity from DeNa.

[orchid lark]

I'm hoping for and rerun
Y'all know me

The moment I get them
I will EX them IMMEDIATELY

[narrow lodge]

i mean why cant ash come back i mean its a pokemon game and ash is one of the main charcter adnwhat bout collab . collab with whom with their own company for ash huh? i dont understand this sh!t

i went all in for roxanne and i need 9k gems for pity cuz i havent got her till now

till 29 as per the daaily breakdown i will be getting 6k and i hope will get 3k in 5 days

[lilac crescent]

How many gems did you have beforehand?

[narrow lodge]

25k something

[lilac crescent]

That's close to a pity. Why didn't you wait till you got a pity?

[narrow lodge]

umm was trusting on my luck

as i got arc synthia on 42 scout point

i was saving for zygarde tho still thought i will get her in 10k but my luck was not with me

LESSON LEARNED

:(((((

[lilac crescent]

Understandable.

[narrow lodge]

is it possible to get 9k before 6

my luck so bad i got mid sem from tmrw till 26 . so i have speedrun for daily free gems

[gloomy canopy]

The pinned message has daily gem rundown

[narrow lodge]

ya i saw that

[orchid lark]

Uhum.....
Yeah I give up
someone take my place and explain instead of me idk what to say😭😭

[vestal leaf]

Pokémon anime isn't managed by the same people who make the games, this game, the movies or the merch

Each studio has its own priorities and interests

So making an anime only character appear in a mobile gacha alongside mainline is still something that needs some serious paperwork and higher ups approval

Same is for team rocket trio, as they were a movie collab

[orchid lark]

POST PITY CLAR-ITY
UR A SAVIOR THANK YOU

[narrow lodge]

Thanks for the clarity mate that was helpful

[gloomy holly]

So far. so good, right?

[upbeat lotus]

Any progress is progress

[oak crest]

as long as u didnt yolo, any form of progress is good

[dark oar]

looks good.

[lilac crescent]

Eventually...

[tawny cedar]

26k more for ||zerena||, hopefully i hit it

[tardy fiber]

Probably can, ||she will last till 24th November i think||

Just dont get swayed on others

There's 2 more big event gems this month, palmer event and poma day

[slow hare]

I LOST ALMOST 1000 GEMS 😭😭😭

[tardy fiber]

Thats tough

[fallen path]

crisis adverted

[uneven pewter]

Its sadly why Jessie and James won’t rerun or get updated

I lament that they’re permanently stuck with no sync grids

[sand crown]

That’s really sad, and I am also sad Ash may never get an EX role

Still clinging to that 0.0001% they’ll do something about it but not hopeful

[outer mango]

I want her too

But I only have 9865 gems and 5100 paid remain with a log in bonus

[vernal glade]

If Jessie and James had an EX, been great but unfortunately, might never happen.

[tough oriole]

Reminder everyone: LG ends today! While it might not have gems, the other resources from a 10 streak are still extremely valuable
It’s also the best way to farm 3* Lucky cookies and the only way to farm Deluxe Cookies!

[lilac crescent]

I got a ten win streak. I don't need another 11.

Unless if I wanna tryhard

[vernal glade]

I already got my 10 streak so I’m good to go.

[broken mulch]

Lazy 10 woo

[tardy fiber]

Wait it ends today? Ive been stagnating in farming cookies and it is already the last day

[fallen path]

I never even farmed cookies

Focus on the hero collector farming, vantner

[tardy fiber]

Some faves need deluxe cookies to be optimum

Especially now the past paradoxes got sun gimmick, some of them might need ww3

[versed flame]

i can never muster enough willpower to do LG and im out of deluxe cookies

oh well

ill take that over poma burnout i suppose

[sturdy hatch]

Catching it just in time

[tardy fiber]

Oh right i need to save stamina too, new event next reset

Palmer event

[orchid lark]

IM BACK TO 90K BABBBBBBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

I wanna save a 3rd pity for NC blue when he reruns on dec or jan (i hope)
bro is busted,I NEED him

unless if warden ingo came before him then.......

[lilac crescent]

I'm not sure if they'll even rerun. Chances are yes in the next year.

[fallen path]

NC Blue is an anni unit so probably just before anni or something

so def not a dec/jan rerun

[orchid lark]

ahh sh-

Welp
Still using my savings on submas anyways

The moment I get them
I will go crazy on this server

Just a reminder everyone

[fallen path]

you're gonna have to exhibit some level of restraint i think, at least in this thread

go crazy in #poma-lounge tho lol

[orchid lark]

[versed flame]

i thought anni units usually reran in dec/jan? like sst red and aura cynthia's rerun

or am i misremembering

[fallen path]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

we had those galar birds rerun right before anni

[versed flame]

• lillie & lunala (not pictured since she's had another rerun since)

but these are the full anni units

the half anni units are the ones that have rerun before anni i think

i think it's fairly likely that the NC Kantrio will return this dec/jan based on the pattern

[crude glacier]

those are half anni

why are y’all spreading misinformation in gem zen

half anni and the non anni mf trio (ex johto), usually rerun just before anni or half anni

we’ve had the Alola family trio rerun this year, though the ss gladion was new back then so

[vestal leaf]

Half Anni units rerun around Anni, full anni units rerun around dec-jan

Usually

[tardy fiber]

So adaman irida rerun soon , they are not anni/half anni so they might rerun in November or December

[vernal glade]

Can’t wait for datamine soon. Hopefully can keep saving. ||Must continue waiting for a new N alt to pull.||

[tardy fiber]

||arc suit N zekrom , i will pull that as well ||

[tough topaz]

||I’d spend actual money on arc N he’d awesome||

[tardy fiber]

I just gonna grab because not much of my faves fit Arc Suit criteria. Well i will have more chances if they also consider Villains.

So far only ||AS N Zekrom and AS Lear Hoopa fits||

[vernal glade]

||If it’s Arc Suit N, ya know I’m 100% going for it. Been two years since his last alt.||

[versed flame]

||AS Lear Hoopa would be insane I want that so badly||

[tardy fiber]

||could properly allow Lear to control its unbound form, with arceus blessings ||

[versed flame]

||YES this exactly....||

[vestal leaf]

More like arc n & reshiram or kyu-W

[tawny cedar]

Got my fave for this month

Only 4 more reruns

[orchid lark]

[tardy fiber]

Nice , i knew that feeling. I took more than a year to clear my rerun list, it feels like an achievement when you're done with it

[broken folio]

Oh nice, Akari on profile

[tropic bolt]

I now have 60,820 Gems saved up.

I know I'm probably gonna spend most of them in 1-2 months when we get new Master Fairs & reruns of the NC-Kanto pairs (need Leaf & Blue), but I feel like I've been making good progress.

[tardy fiber]

Thats a great progress

Glad that you have your rerun targets decided, we always encourage saving for clear goals

[tropic bolt]

It helps that the last time I pulled on a non-Master Fair was the debut Tapu banners.

I just wish I had a stronger mentality to just skip a banner so I can save Gems for a rerun.

Since I always have this thought of "maybe I'll get lucky".

[tardy fiber]

That is the tough part, like my wake up call was when i almost missing a fave with the banner almost end in 2 days and had to scrape for gems to get the unit via pity. It feels so bad, that i start to save to not experience the feeling again

[crude glacier]

Got a question about resource management

So, for over a year now, I’ve always exed a unit with the 13/7 ratio

13 being the power ups from the tickets and 7 general ones

Does that still hold up even when you take into account the 20 extra gold power ups we get with rally?

Our total gold power up count went up

So naturally it should decrease the amount of tickets we use, so we can get as many exes in a month as possible correct?

Did anyone do the calcs or?

I ask this because right now I only have 188 power up tickets but over 500 gold power ups

Because I’ve been doing the 13/7 ratio

It’s like having a pile of gold on an island all alone, without the means to use it

[tardy fiber]

Oh i always do 10:10 ratio maybe others can provide more insight

[vestal leaf]

My ratio depends on my CS tickets stack

[crude glacier]

I actually was doing this because I was told this was the most optimal choice so

I’ll probably do 10/10 ratio starting the next ex

[tardy fiber]

I also do the same ratio for cakes. Like i wait for 10 coins to accumulate from daily region battles and use cake vouchers from rally + daily mission clear tickets to topup the remaining 10 coins

[crude glacier]

Huh I don’t do that

Mostly because I only use one or two (if there’s a rerun of a unit I have that doesn’t have cake) cakes a month

And I get 20 from the rally so

[tardy fiber]

Oh its because my faves EXR are from various cake roles, so i give em cake via this method so that i can clear the cake list uniformly

[crude glacier]

you scout a lot?

[tardy fiber]

Next month i can do strike cake, support cake and tech cake

Yep because there's a lot of legendary, mythical, UB, paradox

[crude glacier]

I usually try to keep myself from scouting unless it’s a fav or I need it, so only about 2 scouts every 3 months

[crude glacier]

Ah explains why you’re short on cakes

But recently, with the free pf we’ve been getting I’ve been using more cakes

[tardy fiber]

2 pf and 2 mf faves left without cake roles, then i can take a break a bit and finishing up the list. Only Gloria, N, anniN and anniSteven left without EXR

My remaining EXR list is kinda imbalance, 4 supports, 1 strike, 1 tech, 2 sprints. So after this rotation, i will need to focus on certain roles for following months

[vestal leaf]

There's no inherently "best" ratio

If you have a huge influx of you can always do 15/5

If you rarely ex, using is better

Going up to 10/10

In average it depends but there's never a reason to go lower than 5/15 or higher than 10/10

[crude glacier]

alright I found out where I heard of that 7/13 ratio being the ideal

+5pu

[jade lava]

5 ⭐ Power-Ups are obtained through:

-> 🏟️ Champion Stadium, Master Mode Milestone rewards for achieving 2700 Points (1 per week)
-> 💱 Exchanging Power-Up Tickets (Sync Pair Menu (Trinnia) -> Potential & Move Level -> Tap on a Pair -> Tap on the Icon
- Champion Stadium provides 105 per week, 40 from completing the Stages (8 per Stage) and 90 as Milestone rewards for reaching up to 3900 Points in the Master Mode
- Damage Milestone Rewards for completing Legendary Arenas for the first time, 20 for Beating the last Bar of the Hard Stage and 20 for beating the last Bar of the Very Hard Stage
- Exchange Rate Cost: Recommended is a 13:7, or 10:10 Exchange Ratio if you don't want to wait too long (First number in )
For calculations: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EzJJ6TwSsciWGHFgNtYbuluVgdSh8mBYtwBET1hwnjA/edit#gid=0
-> 🗓️ Event Rewards (Around 2 per Month)
-> 🪙 BP Rewards (Given at 400/1500/2500/3500/4500/5500/6500/7500/8500/9500 Points)
-> 🛍️ Exchanging 5 in Monthly Shop (up to 20 times every month)
-> 🫂 Obtaining a 5 Sync Pair from scouting*, when their Sync Move Level is already 5/5
-> 🏠 Trainer Lodge has rewards by leveling trainer friendship, random reward from chests in expedition and a rare chance as a gift from 30+ friendship trainers
-> ⚔️ Legendary Gauntlet has as Win Streak rewards: 20 - 1 Win, 30 - 3 Wins, 50 - 6 Wins and 5 - 11+ Wins (No Streak limit).
-> Daily Scout (very rare chance)

For more beginner infos, check our #1010307000346878062.

[crude glacier]

this is where I took it from

but yeah 10/10 seems better

[broken mulch]

I always do the 5 powerups/15 gold ratio lol

[tardy fiber]

Im comfortable with this ratio especially when i dont have enough to do all conversions in the monthly shop that was mentioned.

Plus i also need to save 20 monthly for lodge pair in case i got a new one that i can work on

[elder topaz]

i want money

praying for mid datamine 👹

[orchid lark]

I'm praying for a datamine to PULL in smh

[elder topaz]

i just want money

[vestal leaf]

Datamine in 12 hours

My call is Irida & adaman rerun, maybe sina & dexio as either event units or smth
Maybe koraidon & miraidon with MCs or Eri & some other paldean as fairs

[crude glacier]

agreed with the first part

hoping for a free eevee day ticket again

[onyx tinsel]

I'm more worried about the 5/5 expansion

And hoping it isn't awful

And also hoping the monthly box has another pf ticket

[vestal leaf]

I think it's gonna be every odd month

I really don't think they can afford to gift a free pf monthly

[onyx tinsel]

What's gonna be even months

Yellow candy to offset arcs

[vestal leaf]

Idk, role cakes or candies

[onyx tinsel]

Bc that's the other crime from fifth anniversary

Arc candies

[vestal leaf]

Eh

We'll see

[onyx tinsel]

What's your guess?

[vestal leaf]

I wouldn't mind a whole candy or a lot of coins

Like, 5 coins per type would be incredible

As it would add a whole 1.5 candy per type yearly, generic included

I just hope it's not gold powerups

[onyx tinsel]

"Candy bundle"

Gold power ups at this point is no reward

[vestal leaf]

Roll cakes, cake coins, candies or candy coins would be ok

[onyx tinsel]

Imo

[vestal leaf]

Yea

Gold PUs are absolute garbage

[onyx tinsel]

I think they will have a pf ticket a month

I think they will rotate who is in the box

[vestal leaf]

Like, wow I got a 5* from dail- and wow I'm now gonna forget about it in a week

[onyx tinsel]

And it will be all old units

[vestal leaf]

Still too good imo

[onyx tinsel]

Like next month is ss leaf, lance, stuff like that

Agreed

[vestal leaf]

Especially after PB and 5/5

Also many of those are in lodge

It would further sink lodge banner value rofl

I really don't see them giving that ticket out monthly

6 times a year is already a very optimistic take imo

They could easily make it trimestral

I don't particularly care, as long as the alternative isn't garbage

Again, more roll/candy coins are always better than an extra copy to me if it's a good amount

I can't care less about a shitty pool of units when the alternative is getting dupes for my faves

Faster

[onyx tinsel]

I just want them to give us something for the arc units to candy

I know it's a dead horse but the current rate of yellow candy isn't good enough if that's the only way to upgrade them

What's it 3 candies a year?

[vestal leaf]

Would be cool if it was

Month 1 old pf pool
Month 2 5 cake coins of all
Month 3 5 roll cake coins of all

[onyx tinsel]

Also is it just me or have they really not rerun variety much

Not that I see people complaining but still

[vestal leaf]

Yeah because they'd rather make few new ones

Than rerun old ones nobody would scout anyway

[onyx tinsel]

I wonder I'd that'd a good ticket option also

Variety units

[cinder cave]

Ive saved 6k gems... its not much but its something considering its hard for me to not pull so im trying to practice abstinance

[crude glacier]

Foucault once said that it is only after passing the ordeal procedures that we will get to know what is truly necessary in life, and then we shall be able to “take care of ourselves “

Platon also said something similar, saying a life of authenticity is a life where you are your own master — where you can control your every desire

worth thinking about if you ask me

[cinder cave]

Honestly funny how it does apply in this case...

Ty btw

Honestly a song that also helped me thinking about it more like that is mariya takeuchi's one that says to count what you have now and not count what you dont have and youll find you have so much
And ig it does make sense cuz... i kinda have 8 uber units without realizing it

Helped me not pull for ||zerena|| (i already have solid dragon and earth team) and i hope nothing interesting for november

[crude glacier]

don’t forget to spoiler the banner units

[cinder cave]

Whoops

Is that ok?

[crude glacier]

yeah

[shell glade]

no update huh

[fiery pollen]

We got teaser

[vestal leaf]

Sygna submas wohoo

[broken mulch]

Yeah I saw the guesses

Skip in that case

[shell glade]

meh hard skip

[tardy fiber]

If that is the 2 limited units and eeveelutions for the second half, i will have a skip month

[shell glade]

is it eevee month again

[tardy fiber]

I forgot how many units released on last November

Yep November is eevee day

[shell glade]

woohoo time to hatch a better glaceon

[tardy fiber]

I already got all shiny eeveelution eggmons last year so i can chill

Im waiting for paldea starter eggmons rerun, i got 0 shiny last time

[vestal leaf]

3 pf 2 variety

[tardy fiber]

Oh i already checked there's sspiers, ssroxie, ryuki, elaine, penny, velio, vselene

4 pf, 1 spotlight, 2 variety

[fiery pollen]

How many other relevant trainers with Eeveelution are there?

I can only recall Perrin Leafeon

Tho I'd rather see her with H Growlithe ala Sonia

[crude glacier]

a lot actually

I think Lucian has an espeon

Sabrina too?

[fiery pollen]

Hmm I should probably size it down to ones who aren't in this game

[tardy fiber]

Dexio and Sina

Might be possible as they are also one of the lodge topics

[fiery pollen]

Oohh what do they have?

[upbeat lotus]

Dexio has Espeon
Sina has Glaceon

[livid rover]

Got 172k before the supposed datamine, hopefully Nov is a save/lucky month cuz I wanna splurge on the Holiday pairs

[compact pasture]

Is that a new achievement badge?

[versed flame]

it's a secret title gotten by taking to Clavell in the lobby 20 times

you could get it without owning his sync pair by talking to him in the event conversation

[elder topaz]

dang i must have missed that

[orchid lark]

[elder topaz]

give me some money

[orchid lark]

I wish I could but nah😭😭

[broken folio]

Is this 4 month saving result?

[orchid lark]

Y e s

[broken folio]

Good commitment, I should copy that dedication too

[elder topaz]

i’m gonna die next month if it’s true, i’m not prepared

[broken folio]

Are you not tempted by META pair tho?

[orchid lark]

Ahahahahahahahahahahaha
no

[broken folio]

Hm hm

[fiery pollen]

Saids the girl who's also saving for NC Blue

[orchid lark]

Welp-
I might not have enough for him if we're getting both ||base submas and new submas alts||💀💀

[crude glacier]

just skip those then

nc blue is cooler anyways ||im joking||

[broken mulch]

There you go submas dude

[tardy fiber]

Congrats

[broken mulch]

Meanwhile I’ll be hard skipping them since I hate them lol

[tardy fiber]

Still need to wait for full datamine before i can be clear, like last year got 4 PF 1 spotlight and 2 variety in November

[gloomy holly]

Let's see if they are of interest to me

[tardy fiber]

Hope its a skip month, but if there's fave, hope its only 1 unit

[elder topaz]

kill me!!!!!!!!!!!

i was trying to save

[lilac crescent]

So @orchid lark
How happy are you right now?

[topaz compass]

This month is easy save

Duplicate eevolutions and dynamax non galar mons are lazy af

[tardy fiber]

Wow if next month is a skip, i will have 4 pities for December assuming its at least 21k gems

Gotta prepare for that iron bundle on xmas

[fallen path]

yeah this is a save for me for now, not interested in those two

calm before the storm i guess

[gloomy holly]

I'm halfway / 2/5 of pity right now

[tardy fiber]

December and January will be tough, like kartana fits kimono vibe that's usually on new year pairs so i really need to prepare a lot of gems, plus if there's NC or fave arc suit on December

[upbeat lotus]

next year will be year of snake

a perfect opportunity to release ||Iron Serpent||

[tardy fiber]

Also enamorus for palentine, her tail is a snake

[cinder cave]

i want iron jugulis since hydreigon is old unit 😔

[tardy fiber]

Same, gimme paradoxes ||although please release it sparingly, i need to stock on gems||

[fallen path]

All at once for vantner

[tardy fiber]

I already got 2 in 3 months

[gloomy holly]

Still need my cope for Origin Giratina being tech/strike

[upbeat lotus]

i couldn't be that evil

[fallen path]

[tardy fiber]

Field/sprint giratina they seems to be pushing those roles now ||just like these new submas||

[fallen path]

Are we gonna get a free unit this month

[orchid lark]

[upbeat lotus]

yes, the random free pokefair from the 6 lineup

that will give you a ||Marnie||

[elder topaz]

there’s two types of submas fans

lily
me

[upbeat lotus]

mixed feelings, got it

[fallen path]

Oh I’m so looking forward to that 6/5 level

[orchid lark]

im going wild rn

[upbeat lotus]

which one is the insanity type

[fallen path]

NGL I was waiting for the all caps

[orchid lark]

Fuck
Its not even DATAMINE and I already am hyped

[fallen path]

But seems like you are showing some restraint like I recommended

[orchid lark]

[elder topaz]

i’m just rotting contemplating all that time i spent saving gems for a potential kantrio nc rerun…

[elder topaz]

not me

[upbeat lotus]

neither is lily
so it's me, right?

[tardy fiber]

Free eeveelutions between variety leafeon or glaceon

[upbeat lotus]

[fallen path]

We are exchanging 4K gems for that huh

[tardy fiber]

Nope, they gave us for two years already

[elder topaz]

yes

[tardy fiber]

Thats why i got vlucas and velio

[lilac crescent]

Funny. I got Elesa instead. Anywho.

[fallen path]

[tardy fiber]

There's also free pokefair

[fallen path]

That’s why I’m curious about the coins we got this month

[tardy fiber]

They mentioned it will be changed to regular coins

[upbeat lotus]

we already lost monthly 900 gems from DC

so 20k gems this month

[fallen path]

I lose gems because I’m not bothered with BR

[tardy fiber]

Oh i want to ask about this, aint Tlim release it as total when DC first released? Tlim already distributed it to 200 gems weekly?

[upbeat lotus]

i'm not too sure, iirc he edited the counts to include 200 gems in every week

[tardy fiber]

Well at least ranked DC still give gems, although iirc it only happens once in 2 months

So yep this upcoming month will be dry

[elder topaz]

need money

[tardy fiber]

Because ranked DC and gauntlet was October

[elder topaz]

how much does november give in average if there’s a pattern

[tardy fiber]

Not sure, but might get some extra. Iirc HSE doesn't happen on October so it will be in November

Does special CS happen in October? I forgot

[lilac crescent]

Now that I think of it, for the Happy Prize Box... is it monthly or nah?

[tardy fiber]

They mentioned it will be monthly

[lilac crescent]

WE CAN STACK!!!

[tardy fiber]

Just im not sure if the free pokefair is a monthly thing or once

Because the prize box only happen once, so cannot make accurate assumption

[lilac crescent]

Fuck. Well, thanks.

[tardy fiber]

Well anyway we will know in 2 hours

Maybe more because datamining takes time

I will form my yellow candy with 1 more yellow coin ||not sure if i should save for an eventual AS fave or just 3/5 my fall iono maybe save, need around 4 months plus to form 1 yellow candy||

[rare swan]

The way we are going i will hit 250k before December

Wonderful

[tardy fiber]

Maybe there's Dexio and Sina on Next Month, iirc they are Kalos and use eeveelutions

[fallen path]

Arceus not appearing anytime soon

[tardy fiber]

Arceus wont happen till they sold 18 types of arc suits

[fallen path]

[rare swan]

I will not be able to handle another set of Spotlights

[tardy fiber]

Looks like limited

Congrats

[livid rover]

Skip month so far, let's see the reruns give me holidayyy

[elder topaz]

I NEED MONEY, too much submas content 😭

[orchid lark]

Imma chat here.......
||ingo got tech.......||
W T F

[tardy fiber]

Glad its a skip month, no new faves getting cake so i can concentrate on finishing the current ones and roachmine PB

[orchid lark]

I'm sobbing rn
||ingo and ss submas tech smh||

[tardy fiber]

Also ||heatran model in datamine files|| i need to be ready in case it pops out in December

[livid rover]

haven't been in here for a while, what's "roachmine PB"?

[tardy fiber]

Lusamine pheromosa power boost

[sturdy flower]

surprised but not disappointed to get 2 skip months after that anni

[sturdy flower]

was about to say it's already a pair with ||Lysandre|| but it was the other one, also could be LA or the hard battle thing

[tardy fiber]

Hoping that its for sinnoh NC

[tardy fiber]

I skip anni, october got 1 fave, november is a skip so its balance i guess

[broken mulch]

Alright ||Irida|| lasts for a whole dang month, got all the info I need

[rare swan]

You jinxed it you idiot

[elder topaz]

congrats tai 🤑

[tardy fiber]

Wow, ||Tierno DC has sunny day, that already made him better than other field DC pairs||

Also ||sunny day mp refresh on grid||

[orchid lark]

These gems are about to fade away just like any marvel character who got snapped by thanos the moment ||SS submas and base submas comes to the game||

[rare swan]

Thank you

[fiery pollen]

Bestie i am praying and manifesting you all the submas pairs running the next month

wish you the best of luck

[orchid lark]

[broken folio]

Hoping you get them all early

[cinder topaz]

Ok I think I can save next month. Not wanting any characters shown.

[topaz compass]

Am I correct in understanding you can't awaken a unit by just pulling copies beyond 5/5? You have to use candies?

If so that is dumbest decision ever

[orchid lark]

Even better
||I don't need to wait LONG for them||
||one of the bros in oct 31st and the other in nov 2nd||
||and their rerun on nov 4th||

[broken folio]

Your wish came true

[dark oar]

waiting for 30k gems for this month. ;-;l please.

[uncut comet]

Dena: here's your 30 + 1k gems

There're both the 30 and the "k" letter, what do you want from me?

[tardy fiber]

Please at least 21k gems

I can form 4 pities

[maiden kayak]

meh datamine for the unit aesthetics

[vestal leaf]

From a quick look I'm expecting an average 24-25k month

At best

More likely to be around 22-23

[vestal leaf]

I mean it's 2 sygnas, rest is base units

Sina & Dexio models feel kinda plain tho

[orchid lark]

I need a good amount of gems
I wanna save for NC blue or NC nate after I get submas

[crude glacier]

woah buddy

if you have enough gems for all of the 4 you’ll pull that’s already really good

don’t let your hopes get too up

Always pull a unit expecting to pity

else your calcs will get off

[orchid lark]

||Idk of i will have enough for NC blue after I get submas and SS submas that's the problem
Who knows if I'm gonna be unlucky and have to pity ALL of them😭😭||

[crude glacier]

should be fine

besides, if your luck is bad this month, it’ll be good the following months so it evens out

[upbeat lotus]

If NC Blue happens to rerun in late Dec, it's likely that his banners last for ~1 month

[crude glacier]

Yeah

[upbeat lotus]

So you still have time to restock your gems

[vestal leaf]

I go by 6 months so ehhh

Hoping to be lucky the month after a shaft is wishful thinking

[crude glacier]

it always worked like that for me

pitied 3 times in a row November December January

got ss Steven and ss gladion on my first multi in March

no in between pulls so

Anyways will that free pf prize box come back?

[vestal leaf]

Doesn't seem to be in the events

So...no idea

So much for "monthly"

🤐

[dark oar]

hopefully it comes back 😦

[maiden kayak]

2 cloned sygna

[vestal leaf]

Eh, yea

Kinda

After all the first limited Sygna suit

Was a LGPE reskin

[orchid lark]

[tardy fiber]

I hope DeNa revamp MF banner too, like i usually hit pity in it anyway. So i dont mind if i get 8 move coins + other better stuff as freebies like the new PF banner

[broken mulch]

Skipping every new unit

[tardy fiber]

Same, at least i can get lodge shauna, dc tierno, a random eeveelution, and lusamine PB on November

[uneven pewter]

Makes it easier for me i was hoping for another skip month

[orchid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-mrbean-bean-mr-bean-holiday-mr-bean-holiday-movie-gif-3228235746377647455

Where gem count?

[vestal leaf]

Takes usually a day

[tardy fiber]

Absol is still compiling missions, quest and exchange 52 mins ago

He still havent post yet

So keep calm

[fiery pollen]

We don't even know if his laptop is fixed or if he's still using his friend's 🥔 laptop

[tardy fiber]

Gonna cut him some slack, the update size is 800 mb

[broken mulch]

800 mb on friends laptop lol

[fiery pollen]

Yeah it's a chunky update

[tawny cedar]

Hmmm

[orchid lark]

It's 800 mb for me too💀💀

[tawny cedar]

||a bit tempted by dexio and sinia||

Aside from that a great update since I don't give 2 shits about ||submas brothers||

[orchid lark]

[tawny cedar]

I could actually go for ||dexio/sina|| since I got ||zerena|| early but that depends on how many gems we get this month and how long they run

Hope they stay past datamine

[vale ivy]

Is the conversion rate from normal candies to woke candies 1:1

[lilac crescent]

Another free Eevee pair. I'm living in paradise

[topaz compass]

I just hope we can earn awakening candies passively outside pulling PF multis, I doubt it but will hope. Or even just still give them on triple banners

[vernal glade]

||Might go after the BW1 portags, they’re favs but I’ll have to wait and see when they’ll leave first.||

[versed flame]

I'm starting to wonder with this candy income whether it's actually worth pulling multiple copies on banners now (aka keep going even if you grab an early copy)

for pokefairs particularly and the 10 levels of rewards

i have 200k+ gems and need sprint candy desperately, for example

and if it's on a pair i want to level anyway...

[vernal glade]

||I mean N is my fave, but, I just don’t feel like raising his awakening level. Plus, I need to keep saving gems. So I won’t pull on the banner.||

[junior trout]

yea i dont really feel like doing any of these current awakenings either…

heres hoping we can get them by other means outside of just scouting

[broken mulch]

Funnily enough

SSMina is the only one I’m at 5/5 that’s eligible lol

[junior trout]

i have || n and anni raihan ||

but both of theirs just seem ok

[vernal glade]

||N and SS Red the only 5/5 I have.||

[versed flame]

i have ||akari|| who seems pretty good, though I'm more thinking ahead to ||rei's eventual upgrade because he's my no.1 favourite character so i might commit to it anyway||

[junior trout]

oh i also have || ss leaf but i didnt get her 5/5 willingly, mix scout moment lol ||

[vernal glade]

||But I won’t use it on SS Red, I don’t use him anymore.||

[sturdy flower]

well start by getting all your favs to superawakening 5

[topaz compass]

@versed flame with how awakening is structured, it definitely seems pulling to 5/5 and then using candies is the only efficient way. But I'm no whale so I just pretend it doesn't exist

[sturdy flower]

hopefully superawakening 10 next year

[versed flame]

I'm no whale either but i commit to my faves.... lol

[vernal glade]

I’m not a whale also.

[versed flame]

there's not many I'd want to go that far for but yeah it's something to consider now

[sturdy flower]

I'm not very committed to the game anymore, whatever they do good for them

saving by virtue of not caring

hopefully next our arc pairs get Eus awakening where you need 5/5 superawakening and the last 3 digits of your credit card

[vestal leaf]

Yes

The awakening mechanics could get more accessibility in future

First 2-3 months will be dry because of gimmick dropping and whales drying themselves for it

I'd expect a candy coin influx increase around half anni

Either generally or through something new like rally was for exr

They could also put some coins in rally shop too since they're at it

[vestal leaf]

Thing is, I'd commit only if the tradeoff was great

I like ssleaf a ton but I'm not committing on her because I can just use her in 99% of content still just fine

[junior trout]

Grusha fans be eating so good

[vestal leaf]

The only reason to awakening RIGHT NOW is to flex a unique UB clear with a fave

[versed flame]

yeah true

[vestal leaf]

I'm not gonna lie tho, even tho awakening is still more expensive than I thought, the coin and candy freebies from banners are much higher than what I expected

So overall I'm content

My only question is that Dena must let me have the name of the employee that clearly despises iris

She's the worst 5/5 AND awakening unit

AND her exr is extremely mid

In general most awakenings are at worst situational

Like poppys

But no, she gets the absolutely awful dogshit -1 cd cycle and 3 PMUN

In a future where custom candies are more obtainable I'll definitely consider awakening my Gloria and ssleaf

But I'll wait at least 6 months for it now lol

[sturdy flower]

spotlights don't have their ex roles and now will miss out on this

[vestal leaf]

Old spotlights*

And tbfh I don't even care for them

The fact seasonals get the absolutely clown treatment while being limiteds is worse

Like

Have you guys seen how they had to specify

(Special Costume submas doesn't get the special pose btw)

In the dev letter

That's so stupid

[onyx tinsel]

What's your take on the direction of the game now that awakenings are out

[vestal leaf]

Not really any different

Exr was the same

It's an irrelevant fave only upgrade

As launch moment

Current gem economy is fine albeit I wish we could go back to 330k yearly over 30Xk yearly

But that 20-25k of difference isn't what holds me in or out of the game anyway

And with more niche characters getting added I'm just happy people can get their faves and them being good while other people can discover those same characters and maybe start liking them too

Awakening is on paper really really cool, but 5 candies is definitely too much to as for ATM

Again, need to see the next year or so of economy to understand the weight of awakening Vs pf banners gift

Because I definitely won't spit on 12 coins + awakening 2 dupes on every pity I hit

Esp when every copy also gives 4 role coins

[tardy fiber]

I will be more tempted for super awakening if there's a bunch of contents that need that much higher bar of power. So far there's only UB, and for other contents even 3/5 move level and even 1/5 move levels are enough

[vestal leaf]

There won't be

I really can't see them making UB 2.0

They could make something harder but not in near future anyway
+
Other non pf units will most likely stay more optimal anyway (arc/mf)

I never ever understood the feeling people have to scout to clear less than 5% of content

[tardy fiber]

Yeap thus im fine with this super awakening, not like we got a PVP content where whales will fight us with their whole team of 10/5 pairs and conquer pvp leaderboard and getting more rewards than other weaker players

[vestal leaf]

Even if PvP was real

You bet your ass 90% of players wouldn't touch it

Look at pogo

Rofl

Because the rewards would need to be absolutely stellar to compensate the investment needed to stay on top

[tardy fiber]

True, i hate pogo pvp. Too much factors in play like IV, limited time moveset, not lagging network for small rewards

[vestal leaf]

DC is a good example: they can't give good rewards to people that break 4-5-6mil scores because it would just make the rush to the top bloodier and the community would just dry up as an effect, so DC ended up becoming a semi-chore with great rewards but no incentive to grind

If PvP was like that it would be riskier as it wouldn't be able to just be a 20 mins grind every 3 days thing

That's why they've focused for 5+ years on indirect pvp

And announced coop guildlike content soon

Because direct PvP in gacha is awful

Guildlike content would revitalize the game a bit and maybe actually offer good challenges that reward investment without being absolute UB scenarios

[tardy fiber]

True, although i dont think it will be worth it to 10/5 just for UB and complimentary higher DC ranking. Although||i think DeNa is targeting gauntlet tryhards, lots of the Super Awakening add WTZ stuffs to pairs that doesn't have it before, so it will enable more team or even do 2 pairs clear for more gauntlet streaks|| thankfully DeNa is kind and there's no gems rewards locked behind top rank leaderboard for it

[vestal leaf]

Yep

As long as the gem and resources economy doesn't fumble

I'm fine with how DeNa manages content and pairs

Especially because the last 2 years I've personally had a lot of satisfaction from seeing more niche characters getting spotlight

Even tho Anni always ends up with the same faces

[tardy fiber]

Although i have to commend them, i like that there's more freebies now if i had to pity Pokefair banner, eventhough if we don't chase Super Awakening, those 8 move coins are already great help especially when we are reaching pity to get the unit anyway

Before this its like 3 or 5 coins i forgot.

[vestal leaf]

• story is good
• economy is more than fine considering the business model the game fits for
• the characters are mostly well managed
• the content isn't grindy
• rates are great
• there's a suboptimal amount of customisation to profile that's ALLEGEDLY getting expanded more soon

[vestal leaf]

12 coins

Not 8

[tardy fiber]

MF is 1 strike, support, tech coin 1st multi
2nd PU
3rd 1 sprint, field coin
4th PU
5th 1 yellow

[vestal leaf]

1 from multi 1-4
2 from multi 6-9

[tardy fiber]

Oh even better then

[vestal leaf]

So basically they REALLY want players to go to pity on PFs even when you get lucky

It's not gonna work on me

But it's definitely a good incentive to still go to pity once you get past 5-6th multi

[tardy fiber]

Can totally form a candy that month, because the minimum we get is like 8 of each role coins monthly iirc. If 8 plus that 12

[vestal leaf]

They might put as monthly reward from guild activity or content achievements in terms of fixing the economy btw

That alone would make partecipating in the mode actively worth without grinding endlessly

[tardy fiber]

I will still stop early if i got that pair fast. Because our monthly average of 24k per month still doesn't make me comfortable to spend more just get the superawakening candy

[vestal leaf]

And fix most of the hole arc and awakening COULD put in the economy

[tardy fiber]

But if i had to pity to get my fave, i dont mind getting those 12 coins and 2 super candies

Its unrealistic for me to chase the new SA stuff anyway as i got a bunch of faves

And plenty more unreleased

And plenty new ones with each new mainline game

[fallen path]

Most people aren’t gonna take advantage of the super awakening feature anyways

[vestal leaf]

As I said it's a one unit thing as of now

[fallen path]

The only avenue I personally have is with the mix scout

[vestal leaf]

But tbh Rolex was mostly the same until rally dropped

[tardy fiber]

Yep thats why im fine with it for now, its just like c6 genshin or e6 hsr, its good to have if you really committed to it. Good to have but the unit still work at base or 3/5

[vestal leaf]

3 months for 1 cake

Again, the upcoming revamp of content and coop might be tied to the academy arc

And solve partially the problem

[tardy fiber]

I expect it will be pasio battle academy content at the end

[vestal leaf]

Idk when it dropped they used pretty specific terms for it

That didn't feel like a

"story arc'

Lemme get it

[tardy fiber]

Although i didn't expect 2 consecutive team star admins back to back. It seems like they are pushing it fast. I thought it will be like 1 every 2 months or something

For academy arc

[lilac crescent]

I personally don't like this arc. It seems unnecessary because there is no foreshadowing or atleast teaser.

[vestal leaf]

Dev letter 65

[vestal leaf]

Yeah which is why I think the coop and academy arc are linked somehow

Because they wanna push it out asap

To then go ahead with arc story(?)

[outer mango]

Someone have the screenshots of how many gems Can We get each day ?

[vestal leaf]

Gem count takes a while to be done

[lilac crescent]

We'll have to wait for Tlim to do the thing.

[vestal leaf]

Be patient

It's not like not having it right on update day changes anything

[outer mango]

Already done

[orchid lark]

Yall whats the gem count??

[lilac crescent]

Oh wow.

[orchid lark]

.........

22k

Better than 18k ig

[lilac crescent]

They really are starting to get a bit money greedy.

[tardy fiber]

I just realised, there's 5 team star bosses and if we get 1 every month. They scheduled the conclusion of academy arc in half anni

[fallen path]

Can’t wait for this to be the norm in 6 months

[vestal leaf]

It was the norm

When we had 2 mfs

In one month

[lilac crescent]

Hey, let's be happy we don't get any new ones.

[tardy fiber]

Neat, i can form my 4th pity. I already minus UB because im too lazy to clear it

[vestal leaf]

If anything I remember getting 18k on debut of Maxie and Archie and being happy because it wasn't 15k

🙂

So yeah

[fallen path]

I mean, we always said “at least it’s not x gems” but x was a higher number before the pomas gem inflation lol

[outer mango]

Help

[vestal leaf]

X was higher because of the year where we got a huge miscommunication by DeNa about how the new bundles influenced the economy

Once they updated the economy accordingly the numbers crumbled

[upbeat lotus]

please put their name in spoiler tags

[vestal leaf]

Which was to be fully expected

[fallen path]

Which is whatever to me

I’m in the indifference phase of my interaction with this game lol

[outer mango]

Sorry I don't know how do this

[vestal leaf]

Sure, but economy isn't decided by f2p influence

[tardy fiber]

Still going strong for December

I still havent clear rally so there's another 300 gems

[vestal leaf]

It's decided by banner types and numbers, f2p clearable content and therefore accessible free gems and paid deals

[lilac crescent]

Do || on each side

[elder topaz]

is the gem count really that low

[lilac crescent]

Like this
||...||

[vestal leaf]

Last year we got 23k

It's barely lower

[fallen path]

I getcha mate, it’s still early morning here lol

[vestal leaf]

I'm not attacking you

I'm just explaining in general

Dw

[lilac crescent]

It's like 10 AM for me

[tardy fiber]

November is always low, i remembered feeling stressed trying to get pokewar SC on November

[elder topaz]

idk why, i was expecting something a little higher bc of the events on the schedule seemed like a lot

[vestal leaf]

Last month had more pretty sure

[fallen path]

Never said you were, I’m a little behind in absorbing info today which is not good since it’s mid term day

[vestal leaf]

That was November 2021 right?

[tardy fiber]

Yep

One of the dryest gems in poma history

[fallen path]

Those were dark times huh

[tardy fiber]

Luckily i skipped october and save some gems from anni

[vestal leaf]

Yeah, that November was actually pretty rich because of the new event debut

[tardy fiber]

So i managed to get by

[fallen path]

I didn’t play

[vestal leaf]

22k November 2021 was considered "EXTREMELY GOOD"

[vestal leaf]

Not really

The driest was Feb-june 2021

[lilac crescent]

It was 22k gems though...

[fallen path]

Well in hindsight..

[lilac crescent]

How is that "EXTREMELY GOOD"?

[vestal leaf]

Because 2021 and prior was hell

🙂

[lilac crescent]

Yeah, that's fair.

[fallen path]

First three weeks of release for this game was worse than hell

[vestal leaf]

At least there was 0 limiteds til January

[lilac crescent]

Dayum.

[fallen path]

I still have the capsules

[tardy fiber]

But 2021 anni actually give lots of gems so it does give me a wake up call

Aug + sep 60k gems

Thats how i managed to get by for pokewar + skipping October so i got full 18.6k gems from that

[lilac crescent]

I don't see any units that interest me more or less provoke me to actually play the game. Well... wait, can we talk about that Eevee ticket?

[tardy fiber]

Sure, its random from calem, hilda, Hilbert variety

[fallen path]

It’ll be random again so we don’t get to choose

[tardy fiber]

Just like gimmighoul and last 2 years of eevee day

[vestal leaf]

Just the new ones?

[fallen path]

Unless we do get to choose this time, cuz I haven’t even looked at the ‘mine

[vestal leaf]

Pog

[vestal leaf]

Nah wait

The last Eevee day was between 5

[tardy fiber]

Iirc absol said the new ones only

[vestal leaf]

Pog

That's an upgrade

Better than between 8

[lilac crescent]

Huh. True.

[vestal leaf]

And all 3 are better than all other 5 aside elio

Imo

[tardy fiber]

Really? But i got vlucas and velio in my roster, i thought only between elio and selene

[vestal leaf]

Nope

Was all 5

My gf got vaporeon

[tardy fiber]

So i got lucky then

[vestal leaf]

I got elio

[tardy fiber]

Got lucas from first eevee day, velio on the second

[vestal leaf]

Eevee day 1 did not give a ticket sadly

[tardy fiber]

Maybe got all, the color on the ticket is kinda sus

[vestal leaf]

Idk

[tardy fiber]

This is the free ticket

[upbeat lotus]

if it's the same like last year we should be able to get one of all Eeveelutions randomly

[tardy fiber]

Can get it from mission bingo

Urgh got use stamina 800

I hope i can get glaceon or jolteon

I already got other eeveelutions

Well not the variety but from other sync pairs

Not gonna grab ||irida||

[vestal leaf]

Ayup

[tough topaz]

Ooh is this a select?

[trim heron]

No

[tough topaz]

Lame

[upbeat lotus]

i believe that one is from the tiered scout

[vestal leaf]

RNG Ticket from bingo

[vestal leaf]

Nope

Tiereds are A and B

A for new 3

B for old 5

[upbeat lotus]

i thought there was a third tiered scout for a reason

but yeah it should be the free ticket

[tardy fiber]

Only 2/8 chance to get dupes that i already have. I like those odds

[vestal leaf]

Anyway, another month with no content past Poma day

So I wager 27th datamine

As it's Wednesday