#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)

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fallen path
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Yes

tardy fiber
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But rocket admins and ball guy are special

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Well at least they tweak the outfit design like adding arceus motifs like symbols and lines, still doesn't think it worth extra 100 pity.points though

sweet tide
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sorry calcs are taking very long bc they split alot of shit into days so its a pain to do it

trim heron
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same for the 5th passive slot

sweet tide
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but the cal is outa nd its trash as hell

compact pasture
trim heron
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I guess because none of them are asset flips

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you can take all your time Tlim

sweet tide
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anw its 28600 with the 3k presents on wednesday

fallen path
maiden kayak
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thanks mate

tardy fiber
# compact pasture How?

They got different color EX outfit, Ball guy even change to great ball also they arent copy paste

upbeat lotus
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Thanks for making the count every month tlim. Excellent work as always

fallen path
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Gonna Hopium a 3000 gem Twitter rally

paper root
maiden kayak
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dont bother

tardy fiber
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I wont mind more gems, even better as it is a skip month for me AveryPointAndLaugh

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Rally please

fallen path
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monkey paw curls 50 power up tickets from rally!

trim heron
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I hope for 5000 gems rally really

tardy fiber
fallen path
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I mistype things a lot from the phone

exotic swallow
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I hope for a 10000 gems rally SophoKEK

fallen path
trim heron
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not sure if 30K would make the 4 1% banners salvegeable, but yea

compact pasture
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And the 500 point pity?

fallen path
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“If we get under 10k retweets, immediate eos” SophoKEK

tardy fiber
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Probably just skip this first batch of arc pairs, they arent ash so they will return later

trim heron
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still hoping that would be reverted

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for the later arc pairs at least

fallen path
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Ash ain’t returning either

trim heron
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(I feel changing the pity ceiling now would cause another problem for a smaller group)

tardy fiber
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Just skip if dont have 45k gems

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Dont ever try to test luck

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Probably gonna end up with gen pool 5* or worse

compact pasture
tardy fiber
sweet tide
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also the ghimmighoul event is weird as f

tardy fiber
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So dont get tempted if got low gems

sweet tide
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they are giving us 300 coins

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but the scout voucher is 999 coins

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where are we supposed to get the remaining 700 lol

upbeat lotus
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Have you checked login bonuses?

compact pasture
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From the battle?

fallen path
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Is there a co-op event somewhere

upbeat lotus
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That sounds weird

sweet tide
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there is nothing

tardy fiber
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Smells like twitter rally WulfricKEKW

sweet tide
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from log in

upbeat lotus
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Oops

sweet tide
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coop is not related to ghimmighoul

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the battles give u 10 coins for like 10 days

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so u still lack 600 lol

compact pasture
lusty prism
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I'd love some twitter rally with gems

sweet tide
fallen path
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Don’t get your hopes up

compact pasture
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Does it guarantee one?

fallen path
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I’ve learned from enough datamines lol

trim heron
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I was checking in the mission section

sweet tide
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yeah i think u can choose one

trim heron
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and my god the amount of every mission reward is so random

sweet tide
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the 300 coins is from the missions

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yeah

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i guess it makes sense cos u get random amounts in SV

tardy fiber
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Dont worry the ones that you are unsure just keep it on hold, DeNa probably clarify about it when nearing the event release

trim heron
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yea, there's definitely more in the Gimmighoul event

sweet tide
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but the battles reset daily so u cannot spam the event

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so im just like ?????

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confusion

fallen path
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Maybe you get randoms amounts from summing all the other events

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Simming

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I am misspelling things today lol

sweet tide
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thats what i thought but no u dont get anything

trim heron
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or it could be the event works differently

sweet tide
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even from the ss lear event

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confusion is real but wtv

trim heron
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I notice there's no reward for completing all of them

fallen path
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That’s a mid September problem to figure out

trim heron
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and the missions feels a bit generic

upbeat lotus
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Maybe absol forgor 💀

sweet tide
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the gimmighoul event is next wk actually lmao

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7 sept

fallen path
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That’s a next week problem!! BettieScream

sweet tide
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also i thought they were rerunning all the events

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but its just stories...

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i was cringing counting all the 50 gems shit

trim heron
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it's like the 2nd anni story rerun

upbeat lotus
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I don't need Gimmighoul, i need Gimmegems

sweet tide
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they are stingy as heck

fallen path
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Gakon I almost spit my water out

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Good one lol

trim heron
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it's not like there's many events to begin with

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including the 2 pair-up event reruns there's just 6 that requires stamina

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and the last one is the Lear solo event rerun on the 19th

viral delta
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Do we know the gem count for next month?

sweet tide
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28600

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there are only 4 events

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that require stam

fallen path
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So you’re basically saying there’s a lot going on at anni (in terms of scouts to use gems on), but not a lot of events..

sweet tide
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yes lol

fallen path
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Classic dena

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Classic lol

trim heron
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yea, outside the 2 pair-up events, there's just 4

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2 are anni related and other 2 are Lear related

sweet tide
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they sprinkled in the type rotation and coop rotation thing

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they nerfed ebe as usual

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i dont get it why they cant just give us 3k from ebe

orchid lark
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IM WHEEZING RN-

sweet tide
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would it unalive them to give us another 1500 gems

exotic swallow
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Wonder if we’ll get a good gem bundle for completing arceus arc like we did champion stadium

fallen path
trim heron
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and I think 19th is the earliest day ever for the last stamina required event

sweet tide
sweet tide
trim heron
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like, could they have put at least the Johto VA rerun in the last week

tardy fiber
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I only found 530 gimmighoul coins from absol pastebin

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How to 999

fallen path
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Always has been tlim

trim heron
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it hasn't gotten a single rerun for over an year

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but yea, this is the first anni I might actually dislike

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and it's not even the ideas that's bad

tardy fiber
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I dislike Ash anni, at least those pairs only costs 36.6k gems each SophoKEK

fallen path
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I loved that anni lol

trim heron
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I actually don't mind the Arc Suits

viral delta
trim heron
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and the picks are kinda cool

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but it's just why are the events so lackluster

fallen path
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The uproar on this server and Reddit is more on the 500 to pity thing, Espeon

trim heron
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I'm aware

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(I also sent feedback about it yesterday)

fallen path
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In isolation it doesn’t look bad but overall it looks bad

exotic swallow
# sweet tide 28600

Does this include gems from the Arceus arc? (Will there be gems from Arceus arc?)

trim heron
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and it's kinda a shame I don't the like anni because there are some stuff I genuinely liked

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good thing I have saved this many as I could, because... I probably would've been more salty RileyHaha

tardy fiber
# trim heron I actually don't mind the Arc Suits

Same, i only mind the pity points issue truthfully. Others are acceptable like doing repeat pokemons as they actually want to show growth/progress. I am also fine with the outfit as their sync move animation does have a bit of tweak like some glow here and there also halo animation. My main gripe is only the pity points i think

dark oar
trim heron
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could be

fallen path
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Who’s to say they won’t increase pity points for other stuff ya know

fallen path
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It’s a precedent and an open can of worms

sweet tide
trim heron
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I also enjoyed the run-up

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I find it weird why Arceus Arc story only gives 10 gems each segment

paper root
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Arceus Arc only gives TEN STILL?

sweet tide
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isnt it 50

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am i blind

trim heron
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50 total

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it's 5 * 10 total

sweet tide
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oh yeah

tardy fiber
sweet tide
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its 5 stories 10 each

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lol

exotic swallow
trim heron
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but back to my other point. PML arc got updated last month to give more rewards

vestal leaf
sweet tide
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ther eis seperate arceus arc event thats 1300 gems

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the story update itself is 50 gems

trim heron
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and one of them is changing all the story + battle gems from 10/30 to 100

paper root
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inb4 chapter 2 story is also 50 gems total with 3 more arc fairs debuting 💀

fallen path
sweet tide
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i find it draggy

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but thats just me

tardy fiber
fallen path
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Oh yeah, there’s no exchange with the new events?

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Just the stupid points thing?

sweet tide
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mystery stones exchange shop is still around

trim heron
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the 5 story events?

tardy fiber
sweet tide
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also there is a new 5th anni exchange shop

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its a daily thing

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so u need to check it daily

trim heron
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I will

fallen path
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Alongside the daily scout thing revamp

sweet tide
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i think they only stay for 24 hours cmiiw

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Start: 28-08-2024 06:00:00
End: 29-08-2024 06:00:00
💰 Coins x5
=> 🪙🍬 Strike Move Candy Coin x1 | Limit Change: 1

yeah only 24 hours per item

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there is no tech coin in this shop for whatever reason

upbeat lotus
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Does it offer other role candy/cake coins?

sweet tide
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all coins + roll cake coins are available except tech candy coin

upbeat lotus
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Lmao

sweet tide
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also has 60 scout tickets

sweet tide
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wait let me find the list

trim heron
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100 coins total

sweet tide
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"Strike Move Candy Coin x1
Support Move Candy Coin x1
Sprint Move Candy Coin x1
Field Move Candy Coin x1
Move Candy Coin x1
Strike Roll Cake Coin x1
Tech Roll Cake Coin x1
Support Roll Cake Coin x1
Sprint Roll Cake Coin x1
Field Roll Cake Coin x1
Roll Cake Coin Voucher x20
5* Scout Ticket x60"

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u get a whole roll cake too

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i think worth the tech coin sacrifice lmao

fallen path
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That’s something I guess

tardy fiber
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It will be a field cake for me LucianScheme

trim heron
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who in the shop decided for the prices (in-canon btw) SeleneLul

tardy fiber
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Lillie anni 2 EXR is from our own expenses right?

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Like riley

sweet tide
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i think thats prolly why they put 20 vouchers in that shop

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so ppl dont complain

tardy fiber
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So that whole cake will be a field LucianScheme

sweet tide
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but no i will still complain

trim heron
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20 Roll Cake Coin Voucher as the same price as 1 X Roll Cake Coin sounds too funny

sweet tide
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it took me a while to realise they meant using the coins in the game

upbeat lotus
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I hate how i have high demand for Field cakes lately

sweet tide
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i kept thinking it was the gimighoul coins

trim heron
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tbf coins are barely used these days

sweet tide
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so iwas like wtf how many gimmighoul coins do we actually need

trim heron
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last time there was something new to exchange for them was Lodge Expedition Extracts

tardy fiber
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Omni expedition potion does cost me a chunk yet the income is far more than my expenses

crude glacier
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28500?

tardy fiber
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The evolution stones also functions as coins backup as they sell for a lot, although i dont think we will resort to that WEEZing

crude glacier
upbeat lotus
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Wait quick question, does the 28k5 already includes 3k gems yesterday?

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We are having another 3k on 28th too according to dataminers

crude glacier
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That was my doubt yeah

tardy fiber
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Still not sure if the 28th will give us 3k gems

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So i guess 28.5 still fits if it is total plus yesterday

upbeat lotus
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If 28th gives 3k gems I'm able to secure a pity for ||Arc Steven||

tardy fiber
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If 28th really give us 3k gems and not skip tickets then it will be 31.5

fallen path
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i would laugh if they gave skip tickets

tardy fiber
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If its words correction, it probably be 300 gems PrycePain

upbeat lotus
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🚮

fallen path
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oh scenes if they missed a 0

tardy fiber
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Super voucher exchange for a 4*

upbeat lotus
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Lmao

lost bobcat
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Me with 30 vouchers VoloStonks AveryPointAndLaugh

fallen path
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what if it wasn't a typo, vantner LucianScheme

slow hare
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There u go

fallen path
dreamy onyx
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Another reason for the low gem count, every time they give us a free unit they lower the gem count for that month. We have Lillie this year. Last year we didn’t have any, victor was pre anni

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The month with Riley was also low

vestal leaf
dreamy onyx
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Well we have more banners this year i guess SophoKEK

tardy fiber
fallen path
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it's been a banner year for dena

trim heron
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there's more limited banners this year I think

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but I'm surprisingly doing fine

sweet tide
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v2.48 has 3k presents which will be given on anni reset

crude glacier
vestal leaf
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Also last year was much more poor in gems

sweet tide
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oh they doubled the rewards for ranked damage challenge

vestal leaf
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yep

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i personally would've tweaked regular rounds instead but hey, it's all extra

sweet tide
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they could have given us nothing (like usual) but a surprise is always good

lusty prism
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its a positive gem increase compared to last anni ig

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the fact that we got the 15k for the story revamp as well

vestal leaf
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I was expecting them to tweak the scale of regular instances but this is just as good ig

sweet tide
sweet tide
vestal leaf
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I mean as far as banners go, last year was much worse

vestal leaf
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Vs 70+ thousands and refer a pal and almost no reruns this year, albeit with the AF bs caveat

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Both are not great but I'll take this over 4th year a million times

lusty prism
vestal leaf
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God I don't miss 3rd and 4th Anni at all... Half annis are always consistently better rofl

sweet tide
vestal leaf
lusty prism
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3rd anni has the worst pairs imo.
But hey, Ash

vestal leaf
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I would've whaled for gen6-7 ash

crude glacier
vestal leaf
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But journeys ash is my kryptonite

vestal leaf
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🙂

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Past year

crude glacier
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huh

vestal leaf
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If you don't, oops!

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6 MFs!

crude glacier
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Oh you meant the reruns

lusty prism
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more rally pls dena

vestal leaf
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Yeah

lusty prism
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and more bingo missions WEEZing WEEZing

crude glacier
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Yeah but it’s not fair to account for reruns imo

vestal leaf
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It is

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Because we're accounting all banners

crude glacier
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It’s something to give veterans an edge over new players

vestal leaf
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By that reasoning it's useless to count any banner because it makes sense only if you wanna scout everything

crude glacier
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I’m personally missing quite a few units, like adaman and irida, which I’ll have to get on reruns, draining me of any remaining gem

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But its catching up I gotta do

vestal leaf
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Which is not really how gacha is accounted

crude glacier
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Eh I can see your point tbh

vestal leaf
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Like, reruns are a big part of the economy

crude glacier
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What concerns me the most is the amount of new banner units

vestal leaf
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A ton of players skip to grab on group rerun

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And a lot of MFs got reruns with role and before role in very independent ways

crude glacier
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Speaking of which, does victrier have a log in bonus for 5 star powerups? I didn’t manage to finish the 20

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And I didn’t complete so

vestal leaf
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I think I saw it

vestal leaf
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Like, I get the scare of AF + 1 mf after and before

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I do

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But the fact the same month we got

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  • a 50% free variety
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  • 3 spotlights
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  • shitall reruns
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Means DeNa has a minimum of attention

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Towards banner crowding

crude glacier
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I think this year was pretty good in terms of banners, not having too many at the same time

vestal leaf
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Now they still are absolute assholes

crude glacier
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Up until now that is

vestal leaf
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I completely agree lol

crude glacier
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But if it’s only on anni it’s tolerable

vestal leaf
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But compared to 4th?

crude glacier
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It still hurts so much though

vestal leaf
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This is imo extremely tame

crude glacier
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I have 160k saved up and I thought I would be able to get everything easily with spares for reruns

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But now I’ve had to choose more carefully

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Also will we get free variety units this year?|| Like Rachel or sawyer?||

vestal leaf
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I always expected this so I always waited and skipped everything that wasn't a must get for me

"There's always gonna be something more op" is the gacha creed anyway

crude glacier
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That would be nice, like last year’s executives

vestal leaf
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250k

crude glacier
vestal leaf
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Almost

crude glacier
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It’s a 50/50

crude glacier
vestal leaf
vestal leaf
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Goal ATM is 250k

crude glacier
vestal leaf
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Aren't they in shop?

languid quail
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Do we have rough idea about gem count yet?

pure arrow
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Around 25-26k

languid quail
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Sigh
Hope we get some rallies or something

vestal leaf
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But consider 3k were already received yesterday

languid quail
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28k with or without the 3k?

pure arrow
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I think without yesterday’s 3K

vestal leaf
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28 without yesterday's

pure arrow
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Because that 25k figure was apparently excluding presents

vestal leaf
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Yea

languid quail
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Okay that's a bit better on the eyes

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And the wallets 😭

vestal leaf
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Basically @languid quail
Last month was 26+15 from story balancing
This month is 31 + refer a pal

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If you did it

languid quail
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Oh
Well
Refer a pal kinda non existent for me
So

Yeah 31k is nice

vestal leaf
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Of those 31k, 3k were yesterday's gems

languid quail
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Yeah
I hope we all get lucky BrycenOTL

vestal leaf
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I already got lucky

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||now I pray lear goes fine||

round mason
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so how many gems are we getting for sept

vestal leaf
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From today until next datamine, 28k

round mason
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oh

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well thats not bad ig??

uncut kayak
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At least the arc fairs last until like October 7th

vestal leaf
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Remember we got 44k between previous datamine and yesterday

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So yeah, pretty fine

vestal leaf
onyx tinsel
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5 MF/ArcFair on anniversary gonna be the new standard?

grim plover
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MFs are the new PFs

onyx tinsel
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I wonder if this slightly backfires as when it was 2-3 units it had a bit of a collect the set mentality

grim plover
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and PFs are the new spotlights

onyx tinsel
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If the daily scout has just some sort of not awful rates

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Even 1%

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This is a net positive for savers

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Also, do you all think the DC units have been better or worse than spotlights, or similar

orchid lark
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I would LOVE to have submas as gen pools
hehehehehehehehehehehehehe
(This gurl you're looking at here,is VERY desperate for submas)

mossy hawk
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Well old pfs are going into the daily scout

orchid lark
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Even 2021 PFs??

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Tell me the characters that are gonna be in the daily scout
IM CURIOUS

grim plover
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It's the first time were getting 4 banners with 1% rates

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Don't be surprised if we get at least one new MF monthly

sturdy flower
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||i'm happy you like his alt, i was so appaled by how ugly it is||

orchid lark
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I gotta know NOW

next tide
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it's real or fake?

fallen path
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they're just memeing and coping

orchid lark
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HUH!?!?!?!?

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UR KIDDING RIGHT?

exotic swallow
vestal leaf
summer goblet
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Management must have changed

vestal leaf
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I LOL'D (LAUGH OUT LOUD) SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

summer goblet
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Less gems and more banners

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Its time to get really serious

vestal leaf
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you might've seen them happen

vestal leaf
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also, way less number of banners overall but ok

summer goblet
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What now you defending them

vestal leaf
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not my fault the majority of this community can't count

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🙂

summer goblet
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But more mf for those who actually care

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So not good

vestal leaf
summer goblet
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Of course unless you want to be like and skip everything

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Then it won’t matter

vestal leaf
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it's not like having half the banner as last year and 1/4 more gems matter

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all that matters is the 1% NEW banners

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again, not saying this anni is great but last year was muuuch worse and we all made it through fine, so send feedback like I did addressing the real problems (the lack of inventive for pair outfits and sync moves, and 500 pity) but let's not just straight up say we got less gems when we got 20% more than last year with many and many less limiteds

grim plover
summer goblet
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Nah this year is worst

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Maybe not less gems but more banners

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And 500 pity point

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The gem ratio is more wacked

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Last year is not bad at all

vestal leaf
uneven pewter
uneven pewter
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First one is saved by the glasses

vestal leaf
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in case you wanted it

vestal leaf
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don't worry about it

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at least new ones

summer goblet
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Nah, we have less gems than last year and not even aug gem bumb could not cover it

tawny cedar
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25k this.month?

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That's wild

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Yeah I ain't getting 2 ||arc mfs||

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Gonna have to ditch all hopes for ||steven|| and settle for ||lance and Lear||

summer goblet
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Yeah, its all about picking and choosing now

crisp oracle
grim meadow
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do we know the amount of candies we'll get? the pins havent been updated yet

rustic coral
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is this the channel we ask for meta suggestions? i wanna know which arc unit looks the best so far. gut tells me its steven but idk lance looking kinda shnice too

mossy hawk
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This is the opposite channel

rustic coral
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ty!

mossy hawk
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Go there

uneven pewter
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Ladies and gents

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We are cooked for September

uneven pewter
fallen path
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Let’s not shill for dena lol

summer goblet
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Or we can just skip it altogether and make a stand

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Save hard and save well

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There is no such thing as saving too much

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I get tons of questions why i save 500k gems

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Well, this right here is the reason

vestal leaf
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versus 59k last year

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like

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i don't think this math is hard

vestal leaf
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  • probable 3k in 2 resets
vestal leaf
summer goblet
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You are quite the insufferable know it all

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And that is why i shall not converse with you

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Plus i did the math and decided that its not worth this argument

vestal leaf
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🙏

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i suggest #poma-lounge for the doomposting and misinformation spreading next time then

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this should be a safe space for people free from such stuff

summer goblet
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Naw, i don’t post often

summer goblet
vestal leaf
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yeah, but using misinformation to say it is wrong

summer goblet
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Its not misinformation when i counted them

vestal leaf
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ok.

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then tell me how many gems were given out in these two years

summer goblet
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We have nothing in common with each other

vestal leaf
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aug-sept

orchid field
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Do we have a gem account from tlim?

vestal leaf
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since i'm clearly wrong

summer goblet
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I counted last year. And this year

vestal leaf
orchid field
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What

vestal leaf
summer goblet
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If we are going by aug- sept specifically fine

vestal leaf
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what are the numbers

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since anni isn't sept alone

summer goblet
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Ok then

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From march- sept of 2023 we earn 195510

vestal leaf
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because last i checked
august was 41k
then 3k not counted in both counts because of date overlapt
sept is 28.4k

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last year we had 33.6k + 26.6k

timber wren
vestal leaf
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oh no it was 25.6k

summer goblet
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This year is only 184750

vestal leaf
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so 59k+3k lost probably

summer goblet
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For sept

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25360 for this year compare to 27810 last year

fallen path
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It’s probably good to consider the gems in relation to the number of banners as well

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People have lost purchasing power with the arc scouts. Pomas inflation

vestal leaf
vestal leaf
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anni wise

summer goblet
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Unless you want to count the variety banner which has always been a trap to begin with

vestal leaf
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except last anni's variety wasn't a trap in itself

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it's less of a trap than arc pairs

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at least

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as it has actual characters

fallen path
#

Variety was a test for arc

vestal leaf
#

i wouldn't say that

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as variety absolutely flopped

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as we can see from how variety died off and is now half gifted for free

pure arrow
#

I don’t think the two are very similar

vestal leaf
#

the asset reuse is extremely similar

#

but it's in no way tied to arc

pure arrow
#

Variety never positioned itself as top-of-the-meta, nor did it use repeat Pokemon

summer goblet
#

Variety still exists

fallen path
#

I mean, it wasn’t a 1 to 1

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I didn’t expect y’all to take it literally

pure arrow
#

Nor did it ever have MF odds

summer goblet
#

Just that they are not doing rocket banner again 5 in one

vestal leaf
fallen path
#

Don’t get the react, but w/e

vestal leaf
#

while last year we had 2 to 4 varieties every couple months

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the previous year*

fallen path
#

It’s not AB testing like pogo yet at least SophoKEK

uneven pewter
#

Variety was thankfully a failure and thus likely why they went this direction

#

Ultimately they want to turn a profit

summer goblet
#

Let’s bankrupt the arc unit

#

Or at least get it down to 400

vestal leaf
#

the feedback stream will definitely be already taken into account somehow

#

but if the banners also underperform

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they'll HAVE to apply some form of bandage

#

because unlike variety they can't really discontinue, gift or make arc pairs less common since they're plot relevant

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the easiest thing would be to increase the gem count to a 30k average if not slightly more, but it would also mean all other banners lose whale traction

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so i could see them finding another solution albeit i have no idea which

fallen path
#

Nah they’ll roll with it for a few months at least

vestal leaf
#

yeah i didn't say rn

fallen path
#

Depends on the October numbers

vestal leaf
#

they won't touch THESE arc pairs

#

i'm talking next batch

summer goblet
#

No its easy reduce the scout points and bumb up the gem couny

vestal leaf
#

the most they can do with these is apologems

fallen path
#

Not sure which month their quarterly reports set in

summer goblet
#

If not, scrap them like the prestige event

fallen path
#

As usual, money talks lol

vestal leaf
fallen path
#

Depends on the whales

vestal leaf
#

as one is bad PR and the other "hurts" the rest of the banner economy

summer goblet
#

We just hope it will flop

fallen path
#

Or the tier just below them, since whales will summon everything

summer goblet
#

Japanese player def need to speak up for sure

vestal leaf
#

they're already doing it

crude glacier
#

They’ll probably try to put more gifts in the non paid banner maybe?

summer goblet
#

Its its what they are catering too

vestal leaf
#

they're sadly focusing on the least important aspect of them

crude glacier
#

I liked the 3 move candies on the paid route

vestal leaf
#

which is the 500 pity

fallen path
#

Depends how much noise they have

crude glacier
#

So maybe they can give 1 at 10?

#

Especially since they max out at 5/5

#

I think it wouldn’t hurt

vestal leaf
crude glacier
#

oh yeah that

fallen path
crude glacier
#

3/5 exr total was what I had in mind

vestal leaf
#

yeah

#

but the 500 isn't the big problem with dena management atm

#

as me and aqua have said a morbillion times

fallen path
#

But any momentum is good

vestal leaf
#

the complaints wouldn't be so high

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if the units were WORTH the 500 pity

#

and dena could actually PRETEND the change makes sense

fallen path
#

Eh idk

vestal leaf
#

but instead they present these very bad recycled units

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instead

fallen path
#

I think most see 500 > 400

#

It’s an easy angle

vestal leaf
#

well duh

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the problem is

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even if they retract to 400

#

these units are still a scam

#

because they're just a cheap rebrand of an already established unit

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hell even if pity was 400 from the stard i'd be complaining

fallen path
#

Think it’s mainly because there are still someone’s fav

#

It might have had more momentum if it was actually only 400. More people would fuss over the recycled pairs

vestal leaf
#

because sorry but if we ever get Arc Clair

it will still feel like a scam

even if the pity was 300

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lol

#

it's still an awful recycle

#

that's why imo 500 is the least problem

fallen path
#

But 20% increase is not a small number to ignore. Easier for outlets to pick up (do the gaming verse even care in Japan? lol )

vestal leaf
#

for me imo

#

considering the gacha economy

#

45.6k is still far from outrageous for a pity

#

there's games out there that give 3 pities per year, with soft pity

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so every time you get to pity, it's a cointoss

#

shit's wild

fallen path
#

If that happened in pomas, see ya later SophoKEK

vestal leaf
#

it technically already does, it's just that DeNa is extremely chill about it

#

step up banners have the 25% ticket

crude glacier
onyx tinsel
#

I think the easy change is the candies to universal

fallen path
#

3 pities a year tho? Although you have to consider pities to units

vestal leaf
vestal leaf
#

at least 1 + some coins

onyx tinsel
#

I like it

vestal leaf
#

i wouldn't mind scouting 3 extra multis if it guarantees...idk

2/5 and half roll cake? 2/5 and 10 candy coins?

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at pity

#

but rn the f2p banner is awful

crude glacier
#

It’s so bad

onyx tinsel
#

Here's another way they could do it

vestal leaf
#

the whale one is AMAZING, and i get it, whales had it terrible for years

onyx tinsel
#

Make the og units part of the scout

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Don't have og steven

vestal leaf
#

but MF rewards on non paid is....

onyx tinsel
#

Get him at 8th pull

vestal leaf
#

but yeah it's 99% copium

vestal leaf
fallen path
#

Aren’t they adding sync pairs to the daily scout, mind they are really old ones

onyx tinsel
#

Or make og count towards pity

crude glacier
#

It’s only a small percentage

onyx tinsel
#

That bridges 500 gap

vestal leaf
#

there's ball guy

#

in daily

fallen path
#

That’s an explosive realization

lilac crescent
#

How can you not call them old?

crude glacier
#

I think bad ones is the better term

vestal leaf
#

at least the daily update event icon has ball guy

lilac crescent
#

There is SS Red.

vestal leaf
#

the datamined info on banners mostly lists the older units the banner has

#

like the 72hrs banner had the same list as the daily one iirc, but the daily one lists seasonals too

lilac crescent
#

Oh really?

vestal leaf
#

and the daily update image has ball guy

crisp oracle
#

||did a bit of a spendy-spendy today, time to hunker down||

vestal leaf
#

so i think it's fair to assume daily might get everything up to previous anni?

lilac crescent
#

Wait. Do the Sync Pairs replace the items?

vestal leaf
#

ok

#

basically

crisp oracle
#

Thanks to this thread in help saving though

onyx tinsel
#

There every og merge counts as 30 scout points

vestal leaf
#

daily becomes a mix daily

onyx tinsel
#

Boom everyone is a winner

vestal leaf
#

but without mix rate up

onyx tinsel
#

And you can make the og part of the presents

vestal leaf
#

because mix featureds aren't in duh

crisp oracle
#

||Im going to go on a limb and assume arc lasts till the next datamine||

onyx tinsel
#

And remember the og have lodge also

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3 for 1

vestal leaf
vestal leaf
#

but it would be cool

onyx tinsel
#

Then 10 points, just something to acknowledge it's a power up

vestal leaf
#

anyway, we'll see

#

i really doubt they'll be able to ignore the avalanche of feedback

#

i really hope these arcs kinda flop

#

that would ship the message

crisp oracle
#

Putting 45.6K on the line for a pair ain't cheap lol

vestal leaf
#

yeah i personally don't see a big problem with arcs as they are now, as meta exclusive bait is the easiest to skip

crisp oracle
#

||Knowing patterns they'll likely rerun December 2025||

vestal leaf
#

but i worry about future arcs being less scummy design wise and still being expensive and in months or periods with less gems

#

so i sent my feedback

#

and asked other friends to do the same

#

politely but firmly

#

again, 500 would be fine under other conditions

crisp oracle
#

Always the first of anything new is really rough

vestal leaf
#

they just need to understand that they can't just pull the rope this hard all of a sudden

crisp oracle
#

The only really smooth launch was ||probably the froggos now that I think about it||

onyx tinsel
#

They should of done just cynthia

vestal leaf
#

NCs were initally recieved well yea

onyx tinsel
#

3 units, 2 mf and 1 arc

#

Could of hid this better

vestal leaf
#

cynthia is the biggest problem of the 3 imo

#

she's the embodiment of FOMO bait

#

as her kit really wants that 3/5 at least

#

then again, last year we were panicking and defining roleEXes as "overkill ultra premium investment"

#

and now with rally i have almost 30 rolexes

#

rofl

crisp oracle
#

Then they gave rally and are not really a rarity anymore

#

Rally was a good addition to make them much more accessible

vestal leaf
#

yeah it's pretty crazy

#

i bet they can make up something more

crisp oracle
#

Im just stubborn as hell and have 15+ cakes and no rolexs yet

vestal leaf
#

for economy and such

#

to solve the arc problem

crisp oracle
#

Trollex

vestal leaf
#

they showed they got better at nailing their mistakes

#

with time

#

and with all these new things they anticiaped

#

anticipated*

#

the coop thing, the new modes, rally, DC, new story

crisp oracle
#

I do predict the next arc will at least have new suits

#

||The only original thing is that Cynthia's outfit is sleeveless||

vestal leaf
#

yeah her coat is open

#

that's it, and it's the biggest change of the 3

chrome nest
#

BRUH

vestal leaf
#

and another person we'll have to explain

#

it's not 25k

#

💀

#

🛌 imma go to bed

lunar thistle
#

Oh gem count is out

chrome nest
#

Oh hold on lemme read

crisp oracle
lunar thistle
#

Looks low

vestal leaf
#

28.4k + 3k we already got yesterday

chrome nest
#

Even so that’s low as hell

crisp oracle
#

Not terrible but you'll be broke as hell if you pity one of those things

lunar thistle
#

Is the 25k wrong

crisp oracle
#

Yesn't

#

Excluding a few presents

vestal leaf
#

it's correct but doesn't account for

  • yesterdays 3k
  • the 28th present
chrome nest
#

I remember during the 2.5 year anni I think we had 41K gems for the month

crisp oracle
#

That was due to Victory Road

vestal leaf
lunar thistle
#

Also does this actually include new story

chrome nest
vestal leaf
#

new story is like 5 stages of 10 gems each

#

it's just a chapter

#

like we used to get for PML

dusky carbon
#

wheres the current gem count

#

like the breakdown

#

cant find it in pins

onyx tinsel
#

Do you all feel the DC units are close to spotlight level

#

I ask bc I'm wondering if that covers the f2p unit delta we lost with spotlights going to a few a year

dusky carbon
#

wdym

vestal leaf
#

some DC units are better than most spotlights, some spotlights are better than some limiteds

#

it really depends on each case

onyx tinsel
#

And they aren't like awful, i personally think spotlight level

#

Or a half step below, but curious on others takes

sand crown
#

Some DC units definitely are on par and/or better than most spotlights, but as always that is a matter of opinion

vestal leaf
dusky carbon
#

i mean the important thing to note about DC pairs is that they are free and might not be "meta" but are still good for other content like high score events or legendary gauntlet or battle rally, especially since they are only field/sprint

#

DC Gladion can solo latias

tardy fiber
#

I like DC pairs, especially now its proven that we got 1 new every month. I gonna claim DC silver later, i prioritise getting the field pairs first because they sorta more useful at base 1/5 and EX than the sprint pairs TabithaHehe

#

I hope i can get DC Wally and DC Blue also on September so i can start chasing dupes on October

uneven pewter
tardy fiber
#

Im glad at least there's no ||arc pairs focused EBE|| from the datamine iirc ||sslear|| also doesnt have EBE stage so im happy WeezingLFG

lunar thistle
#

So the anger has died down a little

sand crown
#

It always does

#

Not that I approve of it but the rest of the update has goodies

tranquil elbow
summer goblet
lunar thistle
#

Did anyone spend mindlessly for prestige

uneven pewter
#

Prestige was peak pokemon masters fudging

tardy jolt
#

Wow, I just saw the gem count 💀

tardy fiber
#

The gem of the month is actually great, but its not great with the amount of banners and 500 pity points in this update LarryDead . But props that it is highest gems among other septembers

#

At least there's no PF and around 3 new banners are spotlight

#

I just gonna do waiting game for those units unless faves

#

Still missing Tierno DrakePain

tardy fiber
#

They gave like 1 yellow, 1 strike, 1 tech, 1 support candies iirc

broken mulch
#

I was in a very bad spot with prestige lol

#

Ended up ||having Gloria but couldn’t place at the top tier due to using literally every last gem I had and getting her in the middle of the event.||

tardy fiber
# tardy jolt Isn’t it like 25k?

Well there's 3k from login due to the arc pairs video trailer from before this and later there's possibility of 3k gems present on 28th reset

#

The 25k gems is without counting those two

#

Also those that refer a person (not me) can get extra, i got no friends to refer DrakePain

tardy fiber
crude glacier
#

How many was it? 3k?

#

That’ll definitely add up with time

tardy fiber
#

We still beat last year's September though but we lose against 2022 as that one has 29k

crude glacier
#

I think it was 3k for 10k total

#

I only referred one alt

#

Had to uninstall and reinstall

tardy fiber
#

Oh the refer gems is max 10k

#

Min 3k

crude glacier
#

Worth it

tardy fiber
#

I am not brave enough to do that, i love my account. I'm scared if DeNa found something fishy

#

Maybe easier if i have extra device lying around

crude glacier
#

I don’t think they said something about prohibiting alts though?

#

But eh whatever

#

They rarely ban accounts

#

And back in January’s refer a pal no one got banned to my knowledge

tardy fiber
#

I dont think they will ban anyone unless people ask for refund

crude glacier
#

I only did it once because it’s 3k

tardy fiber
#

Most gacha games ban people asking for refund after they got bad gacha pulls

trim heron
#

Same

broken mulch
tardy fiber
broken mulch
#

Been a long time lol, gonna have to check

tardy fiber
#

At least you got a rare event badge haha

#

The only rare event badge i got is tea party sc riddle badge

sweet tide
#

OVERALL TALLY FOR V2.48 (28 August - 29 September)
Gems = 25600
Strike Candy Coin = 11
Tech Candy Coin = 11
Support Candy Coin = 13
Sprint Candy Coin = 8
Field Candy Coin = 11
Move Candy Coin = 6
Strike Roll Cake Coin = 12
Tech Roll Cake Coin = 12
Support Roll Cake Coin = 12
Sprint Roll Cake Coin = 11
Field Roll Cake Coin = 11
5⭐ Power-up = 20
BP = +3260 (tally is at 5030, R12)

General Scout Tickets = 211
Kanto Tickets = 5
Johto Tickets = 3
Hoenn Tickets = 0
Sinnoh Tickets = 5
Unova Tickets = 5
Kalos Tickets = 5
Alola Tickets = 5
Galar Tickets = 5

Gem Count from 28 August 2024 - 29 September 2024
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893411915638923264/1277806025394884661/V2480_Sept24_GC.jpg?ex=66ce8118&is=66cd2f98&hm=1a891af3912b24614cc8fd8350b82cd967dc98519d64db499f746d97c6646c42&

Daily Gem Count Breakdown from 28 August 2024 - 29 September 2024
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893411915638923264/1277806098996396156/V2480_Sept24_DGCB.png?ex=66ce812a&is=66cd2faa&hm=333f7de252dc61e6e0341db4660abb3727989de03afd27a18f8612e975689e82&

Daily Gem Count & Gems Left Till 29 September 2024
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/893411915638923264/1277806162451894303/V2480_Sept24_DGC.png?ex=66ce8139&is=66cd2fb9&hm=a383efaeb4612b3c6fa9d6c299008b4b9dfd0247dde65dc70ac2af49c16b9bd4&

#

@crisp grotto

lusty prism
#

tysm Tlim

versed flame
#

thank you <3

upbeat lotus
#

thanks for the excellent work!

sweet tide
#

Just a reminder that the 5th anni exchange shop changes items daily, and it only stays for 24 hours.
6 sept reset is the most important as there is a full roll cake (in the form of 20 roll cake coin vouchers) so do not miss it.

Start: 06-09-2024 06:00:00
End: 07-09-2024 06:00:00
💰 Coins x5
=> 🎫 Roll Cake Coin Voucher x20 | Limit Change: 1

tawny summit
#

Oh that’s cool!

crisp oracle
#

The A1139530 Pokemon Masters Club ||annouces their plan for the remainder of the year. A stock fund of 36,600 will exist for SC Diantha. Arc Cynthia will be pulled for, and we anticipate a Kantrio 2.0 rerun in December.||

Can I feasibly do this?

rare swan
#

I don't see why not, you've got the gems

tardy fiber
#

Yep, your gems are even more than me. Although September is the time for my balance to increase LucianScheme

#

Need to prepare if there's faves on October

#

Guzzlord looks fitting for fall

crisp oracle
#

||I will have to wait on Cynthia though Garchomp is one of my favorite pokemon||

gloomy holly
#

Good lord, 28.6k

lilac crescent
#

Thank you once again, Tlim.

compact pasture
#

This is probably the lowest Anni gem count so far?

summer goblet
#

Could be lower in 2020 and 2021 but back then we have less limited sync pairs

tardy fiber
#

2022 beats us with 29k iirc

#

They also beaten our august with 1k gems extra CyrusSweat

#

45k on 2022

summer goblet
#

Those were the days

#

3rd and 4th anni slaps

crisp oracle
#

3.5 shoutout

summer goblet
#

That too

compact pasture
#

Maybe 5.5 will be better?

broken mulch
#

Thanks for the breakdown

#

Oh neat I’ll have enough yellow candy coins to get my 4th one

tranquil elbow
lilac crescent
#

No.

tranquil elbow
#

Kek

lilac crescent
#

Realistically speaking, no.

#

Fuck 500 as I ||dive for Pasio's creator||

tardy fiber
lusty prism
#

I really dont have a definite fave atm

#

||but damn arc suit cyn looks like mythra from xc2||

tardy fiber
#

Because i know some people here made collecting MF as saving goal before this as it is kinda achievable if you solely focus on them. September having 5 does throw that goal out of the window

#

And probably we will get new ones on December and January

#

As they pop every 3 months

lusty prism
#

||I know this chat incentivize on saving, i did my saving for 6 months and i think im gonna go for arc cyn and then save. still have 3 pities left||

tardy fiber
#

The goal of this chat is to encourage saving to get faves

#

And not be tempted to other banners that are not in your fave list

lusty prism
#

I dont a definite one rn, but if you were asking me to list then yeah first would be her TabithaHehe

tardy fiber
#

Thats why we share fave targets to other members of the group before this

#

So we can support one another

lusty prism
#

I'll try to make a list, im a day one player but only login for like 1000ish days (not even got the 4th year title WEEZing)

tardy fiber
lusty prism
#

my list would probably based off of pairs that have pseudo legendary pkmns

#

but im setting a priority

lusty prism
tardy fiber
#

One of your fave list might be a dc pair later, iirc there's goodra fight among DC stages

#

Shauna used it iirc

#

So thats 36k or 45k gems saved if you look at it

#

I love it when faves becomes free pair TabithaHehe

lusty prism
#

Yep, i think i can grab goodra

#

I rmb when Zinnia and Salamence free pair

#

immediately maxed out

tardy fiber
#

Tucker mega salamence is also a possibility. TabithaHehe although im not sure if you will add iron thorns, iron jugulis and roaring moon in your target list as they resemble pseudos

lusty prism
#

still waiting for a potential mega salamence, and ofc roaring moon

lusty prism
tardy fiber
#

Then its good, now that we know you target pseudos. We can motivate you to not be tempted with other banner units IngoUp

lusty prism
#

I have this default gems threshold now so i can be prepared for the time when they (salamence related) released

tardy fiber
#

We used to have lots people with different goals here, i remembered there's someone that only collect birds and some other person collect canines pokemons

fallen path
#

birdkeeper is probably around...

tardy fiber
#

Its been close a year i think, because he doesnt pop up even when we get bird anni last year CyrusSweat

fallen path
#

i know who you mean tho

tardy fiber
#

Fletchabirb EusineWhy

#

Fearow eggmon still havent rerun for him even after all this time

#

And doduo is still unplayable

earnest kiln
#

Probably the easiest month since April in terms of pairs... One free and the other one, not free

tardy fiber
#

All of my 3 upcoming faves are free, i guess we got it easy 🤝

#

Wait was geeta released this year?

#

Wow so i skipped both anni and half anni

broken mulch
#

Geeta this year yeah

earnest kiln
#

Yep

#

Though, I may do a ||Select Scout to get three pairs||

tardy fiber
#

So this year's trend for me is run up is more dangerous to me than actual anni

earnest kiln
#

Same

#

In terms of pairs I wanted... 3 during run up, 2 in Anni, one of the ones in Anni being free

tardy fiber
#

Although i need to be wary, plenty of my faves are not released yet. 3 more UBs, bunch more paradoxes and legendaries.

compact pasture
mossy hawk
#

They are not

#

Just special pokemon

#

Kinda like Spiritomb

compact pasture
#

Oh

tardy fiber
#

I am kinda tempted if bloodmoon ursaluna unit pops up but seeing the pity update for arc banner, i think i will leave that idea, as i am not even sure if i will be able to complete my current goal so better that i dont add other units into the list WEEZing ...at least until this whole situation becomes more clearer and stable, i think between September to january 2025 is already enough time to see the trend stabilized as we probably get next batch of MF/Arc pair during that time and ample time for them taking action based on feedbacks

elder merlin
#

shdjfjsjsjsjs god as someone with gambling addiction that will barely (and hopefully, I’m not even sure tbh cause I can’t do extreme battles so I’ll miss out on a bunch of gems) have enough to pity one unit for this month and will have to save all the way till Lear’s banner arrives in about 3 weeks it sure will be a time of struggle till then

#

specially since I’d like cynthia as well

I plan to only do dailies on her to both sate my urges and as a chance of getting her but I fear not being enough and giving in to temptations 😭

tardy fiber
#

Just dont get tempted to pull just to clear EBE, whether its 36.6k or 45.6k of pity both costs way more than the rewards you will get from extreme battle

elder merlin
#

EBE?

tardy fiber
#

Yeap extreme battle events

elder merlin
#

ah right, yeah fair

tardy fiber
#

Well if your fave coincides with the EBE then its not a problem as those contents are designed to be cleared by that unit anyway

#

So that some gems can be a little compensation, but dont get tempted to pull a unit you dont like just because you want to clear it

#

The average gems per month is still not yet on a level where you can make some cheeky pulls CyrusSweat

elder merlin
#

yes 💔💔💔

dark oar
#

Gem posting. My fave is coming home soon..... ||Please dont destroy my backup gems||

chrome nest
#

So this new extreme battle

#

What’s the theme of it?

rare swan
chrome nest
#

Aight

tawny cedar
#

Is it wise to ||pull sslear before arclance|| since his banner is much shorter?

rare swan
mossy hawk
#

Much shorter being like a week difference

tawny cedar
#

I'm gonna hit like 50-52k today

rare swan
#

they're both 1% pairs so outside of a lot of luck, you might only be able to get one

tawny cedar
#

Wait when does ||arclance and lear leave|| in terms of dates

uneven pewter
#

But he should be in kalos tickets soon

mossy hawk
#

Soon = literally tomorrow

tardy fiber
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I dont mind more dark support pairs for my roster, but alas if i still don't get Tierno. At least we can get 1 of the gimmighoul for free TabithaHehe both are support

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Oh wait they are ghost

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I got plenty ghost support

tawny cedar
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Is ||arcsteven|| actually more broken than ncblue

violet nebula
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Yes

tawny cedar
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He's a little tempting then

mossy hawk
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You are asking in the wrong channel

tardy fiber
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Oh right i haven't check if there's any eggmon event on September

tawny cedar
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Yeah probs

uneven pewter
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I feel i am missing critical info

tawny cedar
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I'm just tweaking a little since yesterday's datamine

uneven pewter
rare swan
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the advice stands

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these pairs are expensive as fuck

vestal leaf
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He's more offensive, but has lot less synergies and antigimmicks

tardy fiber
rare swan
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if you don't have a pity i would be very careful

tawny cedar
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Yeah ||steven|| is prob a hard no

tardy fiber
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Just like rocket admin or eeveelutions ticket

uneven pewter
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Oh god no

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Not random

tawny cedar
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81k for ||Lear and lance|| will leave me broke anyways I think

vestal leaf
tardy fiber
tawny cedar
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I pray for big man sawyer

vestal leaf
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Also objectively speaking, Sawyer is better

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Kit wise

vestal leaf
tawny cedar
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I just like sawyerBarryPogChamp

vestal leaf
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Both are fine

tardy fiber
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I also hope for rachel, roaming form tanking hits will be so funny...chest form already got a huge chest so of course he tanks well

tawny cedar
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Speaking of which

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Where did chest go

uneven pewter
vestal leaf
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He's been popping online once every blue moon for more than a year

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(Chest)

uneven pewter
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Already dreading about having to || pull lear first just because i would rather not have to whale for him||

tardy fiber
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Gone after disappointed with ny clair

vestal leaf
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Remember this is zen chat

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He was gone since way before

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Lol

tardy fiber
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Nah he appeared during ny clair

vestal leaf
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He appears even these days

compact pasture
tardy fiber
mossy hawk
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Both the variety pairs are ghost supports

vestal leaf
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They have extremely similar kits too

mossy hawk
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Rachel is more offensive and healing based, while Sawyer is defensive

compact pasture
mossy hawk
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perhaps, they are both shit so idk

vestal leaf
tardy fiber
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Sawyer is pretty good, rachel is urgh

vestal leaf
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Rachel had no Def buffs but had heals

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Sawyer had Def buffs and crit buffs

tardy fiber
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She only buff speed, got 1 heal tm...and can do spatk debuffs

vestal leaf
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Tackle without any good secondary effect moment

tardy fiber
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At least sawyer can buff crit, good tm, also got some hype up and flagbearer grid

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Alao can flinch with dark pulse

vestal leaf
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Can also flinch if lucky enough

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Ye

tardy fiber
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Rachel is urgh

vestal leaf
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At least they get ex now

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After 3 years...

tardy fiber
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And rachel defense stats is also mid eventhough her base kit are tank focused as there's mutually assured and revenge boost

vestal leaf
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I doubt anyone in this chat was here

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When Khan had to go to past his second pity on lear banner for his first Rachel...

rare swan
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i remember TabithaHehe

mossy hawk
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I heard of that event

compact pasture
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Did he get more Lears?

vestal leaf
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Oh right Tai was here already

rare swan
vestal leaf
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I think he got 5/5

rare swan
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i was probably a white name LMFAO

vestal leaf
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Or 4/5?

tardy fiber
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DeNa is pretty kind back then, free sawyer just from doing missions TabithaHehe

mossy hawk
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I never scrolled down on the pity screen, but can you choose 4 stars there?

tardy fiber
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Nope

vestal leaf
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Nope

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That's why.

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He had to keep going lol

rare swan
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for a while she was the rarest pair in the game for that reason

mossy hawk
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So funny

vestal leaf
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I got her from dailies back then instead

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Bought 900 gems and got lucky

tardy fiber
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Oh right does pasio region theme tag happens next reset?

mossy hawk
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I was wondering too

compact pasture
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Ticket pool update?

tardy fiber
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I gonna put theme orbs to all of my shiny eggmon pairs i guess CyrusSweat that will take a lot of orbs

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As all MC pairs will get pasio tag

tardy fiber
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Cannot wait for bp pairs next reset

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Their choices are quite good, all new non duplicate pokemon for 4* pairs

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Raikou is also new, only virizion is a duplicate

vestal leaf
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I think I got to 6 5* BP tickets with tomorrow's one

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So I can 3/5 someone