Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)

[crisp oracle]

Keldeo was all over the Pokestops this week

But yes Zygarde Cells are a solid motivator to exercise

[tardy fiber]

Zygarde cells plus daily incense, especially now there's master ball to catch those pesky galar birbs

[lean mango]

Well that's good to know now

I haven't checked what his kit contained since I've only ever done that for Eusine and Oleana ever

[tardy fiber]

He got potion too

[lean mango]

As long as he can tank I'm good

All I need is 1 more Poison support and it'd hopefully be able to sweep CS with only poison units

[tardy fiber]

Just gonna build him like this later...plenty survivability and got some team atk buffs

[lean mango]

lemme just steal that

[tardy fiber]

Lol

[lean mango]

I'm not smar 💀

[hard wave]

I wonder when the doc snd porybot r getting updated

I take all my grids from the doc tbh

Oh cool doc is updated

[tardy fiber]

I always tinker with pomatools... usually some of my grid is different due to my playstyle

[hard wave]

For clemont akari and rei atleast

Oh cool lodge giovanni too

[lean mango]

Sometimes I edit my grids without a doc, but I think I've done that with only Eusine and Oleana 😭

[hard wave]

Idrc abt the fall and variety units and I wont pull lenora so

Tho would be cool to get her this yr

[hard wave]

I do it for units below 3/5

[lean mango]

I usually go for the bare minimum of 1/5 so maybe that contributes

amd when I give my candies are scarce

[tardy fiber]

1/5 i usually grabbed all unlockable stats grids, well because other grids are pretty niche like cannot be poisoned or something

So stats is good

[fallen path]

I run very wonky grids, I have LG specific grids

[hard wave]

I still have 6 units to grid but they r all 3/4*s so I have been using the grid

[lean mango]

I still have 5/5 Oleana on my to do list for LG

[tardy fiber]

Lately i just grid anything as soon as I get the pair because my sync orbs are too much.

It accumulated more than what i can spend

[fallen path]

Yeah I don’t claim the free 100 sync orbs from events anymore

[hard wave]

I only have 4.7k orbs I think need 10 times that rn and more bcz ill be getting some other units like registeel and lodgio this month

[fallen path]

I have almost 400k I wish I could donate them

[tardy fiber]

Hope DeNa give eggmons grids, even stats only grids are also nice...or some general grid layout that all same role pair can apply like first aid 4

I can sink my sync orbs into those if it happens

[hard wave]

Im fine w lvl up items (besides field/sprint drinks), candies (need a strike candy but can get one this month), and lucky skills but I still need some sync orbs and desperately in need of powerups and skill spheres

Role cakes I dont have anyone I want to give it to that has it unlocked rn

[tardy fiber]

Oh luckily i farmed a bunch of field and sprint drinks when they were first introduced...the training area has double drops for a week + iirc

So i farmed sprint drinks although i have 0 sprint pair that time

[hard wave]

I should’ve farmed some when datamine dropped instead of continuing w skill spheres || my akari is stuck at 130 ||

[fallen path]

Tbh, vantner and I have use the sync orbs bonus before so it was easy to inflate the sync orbs

Since we were getting double (1800) a day

[tardy fiber]

Also i grabbed the orb bundle every 20 days

Lemme check how many pairs left that i havent max theme skills

[hard wave]

I have…. 47

13,500 needed rn and ill be getting more pairs so

[tardy fiber]

10 pairs left, 11 if include lodge gio later

Also 10 4* pairs left to be 5*

Doesn't include lodge steven, adaman, irida, jessie, james

[hard wave]

I still am missing bugscy jessie james tina lodge adaman steven and gloria

27 w lodge gio

[unique ivy]

||Bro how optimistic I was thinking Volo would be the anniversary sync pair🫠||

[tawny cedar]

Is there a chance for us to get a rally this month?

[rare swan]

#game-announcements message

we already got one but it didn't have gems

[tawny cedar]

I need extra 1.7k to pity farty

[lapis pine]

Bruh

[winged fossil]

Is it bad that I’m no longer even doing the free daily scout thing on most days just to minimize my time in the scout menu?

Since daily missions can be finished without it now

[crisp oracle]

Avoids temptation if you don’t visit the scout screen ig

[hard wave]

Ig if ur finishing ur dailies still

Tbh the daily scout is meh besides pearls if u havent finished those missions unless u dont care

[sturdy flower]

just do your lodge for the Mysterious Stone™️

people are theorizing these are for more grid energy and I'm not sure i'd be happy with how many 1/5 units I have

[hard wave]

For non limiteds I have calem, acerola, cheren, bp 5 stars (besides registeel, can get it this month tho), and grimsley

[tardy fiber]

That will be nice sometimes I'm only 1 off grid energy for my desired grid. Well im in for any boost to my faves

[hard wave]

Its probably || related to volo ||

[tardy fiber]

For free Volo Giratina pair? i will also take that

[hard wave]

Would be cool, but doubt it

Wait we dont have to spoiler now, imagine if he’s the free hisui pair

[tardy fiber]

I used to doubt it, but free victrier happened

I love you DeNa

Give me more free faves

[hard wave]

Im glad spectrier was free, I rlly like it and didnt have to pull for him

I dont use tho bcz anni lillie and ssrc r better imo

[tardy fiber]

I just use both together, i got a ghost zone for days

[hard wave]

True

[fallen path]

Volo prints money tbh, he won't be free

[rare swan]

I'd be shocked if he's not a Master Fair

I would get saving if you're a fan

[fallen path]

I'm only interested in this pair. will still save if its with the rumoured pair from the story

[hard wave]

Luckily idrc much for him or any pokemon he’d prob get, even arceus and giratina O

I like giratina O but I feel satisfied with SSRC

[grim plover]

volo is the 4.5 anni*

dena told me

[hard wave]

No way I thought it was galar birds

[fallen path]

we're going back in time

[hard wave]

Guess it was a hallucination

[tardy fiber]

Volo probably soon, no way they're gonna left us hanging and collecting mysterious stones from lodge for months

[fallen path]

Prob won’t be a fav for you given the spoiler

[lapis pine]

They’re clearly building up hype for volo

[cunning swan]

Volo soon but not so soon please I beg

[rare swan]

https://tenor.com/view/volo-pokemon-volo-pokemon-pokemon-volo-pla-gif-24935905

Soon™️

[cunning swan]

I only just got back to 6 digit gem count!!

[vernal glade]

I can already hear the music seeing that gif

Hopefully I can make it to 200k in November, December is definitely 200k if I can’t make it in November.

[feral vale]

TAI YOU’RE GONNA MAKE MY GEMS SCREWED EVEN MORE

[rare swan]

we're all gunna suffer 😔

[fallen path]

Wait till the 20k gems month

[vernal glade]

He’s not a fav so I’m good.

||I only have 1 hisui fav I want when it arrives: Zoroark hisui form. But please not this year.||

[latent salmon]

wish granted

january 2 2024

[crisp oracle]

||me not wanting Volo but knowing deep down I’ll probably fall into temptation for him anyways ||

[winged fossil]

me knowing id fall for an arceus with Gladion's gimmick:

or even better, if it had ||unoVA hilbert's gimmick||

cause then it could change the damage type mid-fight, if i understand that one correctly

[weary aspen]

theoretically, about how many gems would i be able have by the time christmas rolls around? currently have 19k

[winged fossil]

we dont really know how much exactly, but if you want to safe estimate, assume ~20-21k for november and december respectively, and you might be close on the estimate.

~19k gems left this month according to pins

[weary aspen]

ok so abt two pities

damn

[rare swan]

that looks like a fair estimate

[weary aspen]

not sure if ill even pull for anyth in october or november, wanna save for potential SST red and maybe wtv new MF comes in december

[rare swan]

better to be conservative and be pleasantly surprised

[weary aspen]

it will be tough waiting just cuz i started playing only last month so the urge to get new limited pairs is v much there but it might be worth it so i'll wait

i have other stuff to do to keep me distracted anyways, just play the game for 1-2 hours, get wtv gems that are available for the day then do other stuff

should be good

[rare swan]

sounds like a plan remember you can clear most of the content with F2P/gen pool pairs, so

[weary aspen]

yeah thats def true, and im def set for most stuff cuz i have the NC kanto birds

[rare swan]

oh yeah you're cruising, nw

[weary aspen]

the only thing in my way is like

gauntlets and MMCS

[rare swan]

end game content, don't stress about that

[winged fossil]

well its highly likely NCerena is rerunning on nov 25, if they dont separate her and NCalem. so earliest would be dec25 pomaday for SST red, if they dont do the unexpected...which, TBF dena does a lot

[weary aspen]

and theres always the potential for luck in getting my desired unit early, so id be able to get other units too perhaps

not the worst outcome, waiting

wouldnt mind waiting till december/january if it means i can get potentially 2-4 new busted pairs

[winged fossil]

im pretty safe from reruns since my remaining 2 reruns are one thats happening near end of this month, and one thats high chance of being end of next month. so with my gem count im gonna have spare for at least one new fav, especially if either doesnt shaft me.

but im 100% expecting the full shaft, i just consider anything that isnt a shaft as extra gems from the month

[near oriole]

Dmg not that much if we only compare single addition effect it like dmg 1.1k to 1.7k dmg addition per sync move for psychic

[tardy fiber]

I just gonna collect rainbow feather gears. I think cake will have more impact, although doubt it will help much if support pair gets tech cake role

[earnest kiln]

I think I can get ||Paulo|| via pity...

I have 2,495 Gems 1,095 (Non-Paid) and 1,400 (Paid), plus I'll get 200 over the next two days from the Paid Log-In bonus, plus 700 over the next few days

[tardy fiber]

This might be an unpopular opinion but if i ||run out of free gems but i do have paid gems on hand and only need a little amount to pity before banner expires, i just spend it, i rather get the pair now as the rerun for the pair are also unpredictable at worse might need a year to rerun||

[vestal leaf]

Finishing a banner without pity means

• you didn't check if investment in such banner was safe with your current resources
• all wasted scout points since you got nothing out of it
  So yeah rather than blowing 300+ scout points it's """better""" to shop, or better again learn to not dump gems in banners you're unsure to cover a pity for with your free gems

[tardy fiber]

Also, the lack of select scouts offered does make using paid gems more manageable

They only appeared 3 times a year

And sometimes the pool was not anyone you wanted

[unique ivy]

Ok help so ||I know I’m getting Red (First off Yay) || but ||second off I really want Rei or Nc Caleb since Wally is my best fighting type unit and Marnie and Galarian Moltres and SS Cyrus|| but I wanna start saving for units cause I learned my lesson from this anni. What do I do???

[ashen thunder]

If you learnt your lesson, obvious choice is just continue saving

[unique ivy]

But also we don’t know when Rei and Akari will get their re runs and I don’t know if I can put up with Wally for like another year

[upbeat lotus]

waiting is a key to zen

[ashen thunder]

Everything will rerun except collab

[deft glen]

Can't wait to || skip || Volo

[ashen thunder]

If you want to roll every unit on release, you must consider your affordability first

[unique ivy]

Collab being ash right???

[ashen thunder]

Ash, Jessie and James

[unique ivy]

Rip cause I didn’t get ash

[ashen thunder]

Well
Back to topic....are you really considering to roll em coz fav?

Also how many gems do you have

[unique ivy]

I’ll have ||0|| by the time of all the other anni leaving

[ashen thunder]

Uhhhh

You are rolling impulsively

That doesn't sound zen at all

[unique ivy]

Yes Ik it’s a problem

[ashen thunder]

You roll impulsively means you'll never be in pity zone

Means no guaranteed stuff

[unique ivy]

Yeah so answer is saving

[ashen thunder]

Yea just save till 36.6k gems and then decide whether you want to roll or not

It's better than dumping 3k gems everytime to see nothing happen

[unique ivy]

Thanks for the answer

[unique ivy]

Also one more quick question how long does it take to save that much

[ashen thunder]

You get 25k gems per month average

[unique ivy]

Really that’s a lot!!!

[ashen thunder]

If you are pre planning for reruns assume 22k or smth to be safe

No it's not lmao

For reference

[unique ivy]

Oh for me it is😂

[ashen thunder]

Even with 25k assumption

It takes more than 4 months to get 3 pities

And they often throw master fairs in sets of 3

So you save 4 months without getting baited

To be in safe zone

[tardy fiber]

25k is nice, DeNa is kinder than most other gacha games

[unique ivy]

Oh ok

[ashen thunder]

Ye, atleast it's better than other gachas

[snow rose]

Well, 3 and then the duration of the mf month, if you’re willing to take risks

[ashen thunder]

They drop MFs more frequently

We got 8 MFs this year already

[unique ivy]

Yeah I thought DeNa was stingy with the gems (no offense) ||but I’ve never saved for really anyone maybe like I saved 3 ten pulls but that was really it||

[ashen thunder]

And that's just MFs

[tardy fiber]

Our f2p units are also nice, other gacha free starter units are kinda weak or useless for clearing contents

[ashen thunder]

Eh
Lot of modern gachas have good F2P units

[unique ivy]

||I’ve only ever got 1 pity which was Archie and I don’t use him anymore||

[ashen thunder]

Only gachas with PvP tend to lack good F2P stuff

[tardy fiber]

Yeap "modern"

[unique ivy]

||And SS Lillie on an alt||

[ashen thunder]

Nowadays devs don't have much choice than make good F2P units

Coz people always complain

Tho
Surprisingly recent free units are super mid in pomas

[tardy fiber]

Like marvel contest of champions, start with 1* champs but endgame stuff need good champs that are 6* or 7*

[ashen thunder]

Last actual good free unit was arca blue

And bugscy

[tardy fiber]

Victrier is good

[ashen thunder]

He's mid

Other than dmax, 0 appealing stuff

I ain't running him and syncing with him over supp ex

[tardy fiber]

Free dynamax unit

[upbeat lotus]

you can say the same with Bluecanine

[ashen thunder]

Bluecanine has good dmg atleast
Shadowball spam from <500 atk and low multipliers is cringe

[tardy fiber]

Oh right aint bluecanine only good ontype?

[ashen thunder]

No

He has more competition

Otherwise he's miles better than non legendary free units

Fire is a stacked typing

[vestal leaf]

I mean it comboes pretty well with other Shadow ball users

It's not insane but he can enable, denial and tank really well

[tardy fiber]

Giopersian is also good, nice buffer

[ashen thunder]

It's still very cope
Compared to free legendary units

[vestal leaf]

Max regen and his extra max guard option are such a fun thing to abuse

[ashen thunder]

The power level of free units just got low coz they are back to back releasing stronger gacha units

Other than arca blue, I personally don't feel any other dps is actually worth using

[vestal leaf]

Yeah but as long as challenges remain mostly 3-3.5k csmm tier... lol

[tardy fiber]

Yeap this

[vestal leaf]

Freebies will find ways to clear

[tardy fiber]

Doesn't need all f2p pair to be sstred level

[ashen thunder]

Yea but I am talking abt reduced power level

[vestal leaf]

I see it the opposite way

[ashen thunder]

You ain't telling me any free limited unit is better than cyrus

They don't want to give strong free stuff anymore

[vestal leaf]

I don't see reduced power level

[ashen thunder]

It is

Which free unit they dropped is stronger than cyrus?

And cyrus is year 2 unit

[vestal leaf]

I see just overkill stuff that keep increasing number while older stuff gets buffed through ex, pb and 5/5

And the overkill stuff being 100% useless

Cyrus was a mistake, I've said it even in the February where he got datamined in

[tardy fiber]

Latest mid f2p pair that i see is lodge falkner, i dont know where to use him other than Gauntlet or HS

[vestal leaf]

"no way they gave a unit cs9 and it's not a mistake"

[ashen thunder]

OK fine
Not cyrus

Giovanni still existed

Even without factoring in PB, he's miles better than free limited units

[vestal leaf]

Ehhh

Without pb he's pretty bad imo

[latent salmon]

solar flare 9

[ashen thunder]

He's better than spectier lmao

[latent salmon]

solar flare 9 my beloved

[tardy fiber]

Is this Rosa? Iirc she got that solar thingy

[mossy hawk]

Silver

[latent salmon]

silver

[tardy fiber]

Oh silver

[vestal leaf]

For psychic? Sure

[ashen thunder]

He's better at ghost as well

[latent salmon]

solar flare 9

never pull for another fire (or grass!) unit ever again

[tardy fiber]

Oh right thankfully for the pb, silver without pb is harsh

[vestal leaf]

Because psychic has hella competition

[ashen thunder]

The dps difference isn't rly that high

[latent salmon]

pb silver is all that you need

[mossy hawk]

Solgaleo got a better multiplier, Haymaker beats Solar flare 9

[vestal leaf]

No sync option, no zone, no max move

[ashen thunder]

You dmax sides to deny with spectier, gio still kills it with shadowball

[vestal leaf]

How is he better for ghost lol

[ashen thunder]

Spectier loses zone anyways

[tardy fiber]

Oh right solgaleo,love it, i keep using him for steel weak

[latent salmon]

shhh this doesn't push my silver propaganda

[vestal leaf]

[ashen thunder]

Unless you sync with a 50% multiplier sync

I already have to run giratina with spectier to keep rotations smooth

[vestal leaf]

I mean you can afford it, or you can just destroy stage before starting zone runs out

[tardy fiber]

I run victrier with sskorrina, no stat buffs for enemies

[vestal leaf]

How are you finishing stage so late when running giratina lol

[ashen thunder]

Coz I do offtype 3.5k

Why tf would I do ontype 2.5k

I can do that with dps Agatha without pressing hypnosis

[vestal leaf]

Ah yes, gotta measure units around unorganic params

[ashen thunder]

I mean

[vestal leaf]

Gonna leave the discussion then, no reason arguing over this

[latent salmon]

did they add new cs rewards or something because there is no reason to handicap your opinion of a unit like that

[ashen thunder]

I was talking abt reducing power level among free units

Lol

[vestal leaf]

I say this as someone that does 2v3 3k lol

[ashen thunder]

I never said the excess power is ever required

But the point still stands

[vestal leaf]

You don't get to decide what are the params to judge units, the game Devs do

[ashen thunder]

The free units these days are much weaker

[latent salmon]

tbf legendary adventures units have actual stories behind 'em, victrier kinda just happened

[ashen thunder]

Compared to first 2 years

[vestal leaf]

I don't agree on that but I would just repeat myself

[ashen thunder]

You are seriously saying spectier is better than giovanni then?

[vestal leaf]

For ghost, yea

[sand crown]

It isn’t even close

[vestal leaf]

For psychic Vs ghost? It depends on teamcomp

[tardy fiber]

I still think victrier is good
Bluecanine have low spatk, but have hyperbeam
Victrier have ghost zone, haze that remove buff, and max move

So i dont see free stuffs being weaker

[vestal leaf]

Spectrier synergizes with other units way better than Giovanni, who's a straight DPS unit

[sand crown]

They’re both amazing for free units though let me be clear

[vestal leaf]

So ofc gio has better numbers

But numbers are relevant only to a certain degree

[tardy fiber]

Yeap

[latent salmon]

gio is selfish dps, victrier at least has some use outside of dps as zone bot

[tardy fiber]

Cannot even buff own spatk

[vestal leaf]

Gonna bounce anyway, gotta try more +20 hp +8 Def Palmer solo DPS setups

[ashen thunder]

2 time zone bot that demands sync with a 50% multiplier

[vestal leaf]

[sand crown]

Yeah. I highly value utility so that’s why I prefer Spectrier

[latent salmon]

i genuinely dont see why this is a problem in cs

[tardy fiber]

Way better than hopium for Sclillie to proc ghost zone

[ashen thunder]

I am not talking abt cs

[latent salmon]

ah i see

[ashen thunder]

I am talking abt general unit power level

CS is joke content

Mina clears it ontype

And Mina is shit

[latent salmon]

usually the fight's over in 2 syncs at most anyways so

unless you're using him for EBE

[ashen thunder]

You aren't telling spectier is better unit than giovanni

[vestal leaf]

Well what does Gio do that helps in HS and EBEs aside damage

[latent salmon]

...why would you subject yourself to that torture though

[ashen thunder]

Damage is all I need

[vestal leaf]

Lole

[ashen thunder]

[stark night]

[vestal leaf]

Ok

[ashen thunder]

What utility does spectier even give

[latent salmon]

giovanni is pure damage
victrier can be used as zonebot

[ashen thunder]

Haze is super situational

His zone is underwhelming

Only for fast clears

Which gio can also do

[latent salmon]

victrier can be slapped onto a pre-existing team
you need to build the team around giovanni

[ashen thunder]

He demands sync to extend the duration or strong partner to carry him

[tardy fiber]

Use max move after spectrier sync and big damage incoming

[latent salmon]

different roles imo.

giovanni is selfish dps

victrier is a hybrid leaning to dps

[stark night]

Spectrier's is cooler. i win

i just like Victor i'll carry him its fine. i do the same with Selene

[latent salmon]

okay even without the beeg numbers thing

are you seriously using shadow ball on giovanni

honest question

[ashen thunder]

Ig with how people reacting to spectier
Next dps will be a 50 BP sprint unit with 0 multipliers and usual 400 atk and people defend it coz 3 turn Accel

Yes I do

If I use giratina

[latent salmon]

then obviously you have other ghost zone options...? victrier is nice for f2p because of ghost and ghost zone

[ashen thunder]

I tried solo ghost zone

It's shit

[latent salmon]

even if it's bad it's still f2p ghost zone

[vestal leaf]

Why would you run solo zone tho

You can run another ghost striker to synergize way better

It's like running solo giratina: it's way more underwhelming than giratina+ another ghost

[ashen thunder]

I meant solo zone

Not solo dps

Usually he runs with fantina or shauntal depending on my mood

It's still underwhelming compared to zoneless runs with supp ex

[vestal leaf]

Idk, I find him very fun to run to enable courtney for ground weak

And again, the fact you can run supportless teams is super fun

Because it lets you grab some extra points and attune some really extravagant teamcomps and denials

[crisp oracle]

there aren't many zone units that can do DPS duty as well

For every SS Diantha and Lucas, you get a unit like SC Ingo who doesn't have much DPS if I'm for sure

lemme check

[torpid prawn]

Ingo (Special Costume) & Accelgor

<:CATEGORY_PHYSICAL:967450751980949625> <:TYPE_BUG:967452395615449119> Quick Attack

Gauge: - | Power: 94 | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: 3
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: Quick Move
No additional effect.

<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> Bug Wish

Gauge: 2 | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: Entire field
Effect Tag: -
Turns the field of play's zone into a Bug Zone. (A Bug Zone powers up Bug-type attacks.)

<:CATEGORY_SPECIAL:967450752098390077> <:TYPE_BUG:967452395615449119> Infestation

Gauge: 2 | Power: 20 | Accuracy: 100 | Uses: -
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
Leaves the target trapped.

<:CATEGORY_STATUS:967450751955771402> Coming Through!

Gauge: - | Power: - | Accuracy: - | Uses: 2
Target: All allies
Effect Tag: -
Raises the user's evasiveness by 2 stat ranks. Raises the accuracy and evasiveness of all allied sync pairs by 1 stat rank.

<:CATEGORY_PHYSICAL:967450751980949625> <:TYPE_BUG:967452395615449119> <:CONDITION_SYNC:967453032939925614> Express Line Bug Impact

Power: 200
Target: An opponent
Effect Tag: -
This attack's power increases when the target is trapped.

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[crisp oracle]

Quick Attack and Infestation

[tardy fiber]

I hope for a fave bug zone in the future... maybe on shiny pheromosa, shiny buzzwole, shiny genesect, slither wing

[vestal leaf]

Yeah to be fair SC Ingo is like

The worst zoner

I can see them making a bug field limited with debut and/or maybe a TM like akari

[tardy fiber]

Yeap i dont mind even if its field, although for now i think i favor field more than sprint, like i not sure where to use the adrenaline 3 sync unless its gauntlet

[cunning swan]

If anything sprint EX sync is more valuable in short battles like CSMM, no? for funny sync accel ramps in presync battles

It won't help much in Lg where you're almost guaranteed to get synced anyway

[tardy fiber]

It helps for fast 3 sync buffs, use sprint EX sync then support sync

Cannot do much in cs because everything defeated in one sync usually

[crisp oracle]

Not like you needed Sprint beforehand, but it would help if you are trying the parameter where you either give the opponent a 5 or 3 sync countdown

[earnest kiln]

||Bede|| took like seven months to first rerun, plus ||Rei and Akari|| aren't alts, so you have a better chance of seeing a rerun in less than a year.

[hard wave]

Have u tried bea?

[vernal glade]

If you make a fav list, you can be able to save gems much easier.

[unkempt vortex]

Bea clears fighting stuff free

Way better than wally

[vernal glade]

The less favs you have, the better the chances of saving.

[unique ivy]

Ye

[lost bobcat]

Bea is more than enough, EX her for extra destruction

Id you're at 0 you alsp have no choice

[crisp oracle]

Bea is very good plus with Inertia with Support EX before, her nuke destroies most fighting weak

also, since Rei is a Sprint unit, it might be a while before you get dupes if you aren't going to use yellow candies

[ashen thunder]

Bea is one of those gen pool units that Dena decided to give limited unit level numbers

Like 190 BP, 400+ atk and CS3 alone already better than most of 2022 dps units

[sturdy flower]

my Bea is STILL 2/5 stuck

||and she does more damage than my 1/5 Hop||

[broken mulch]

I gotta say, I never found this to be true, though mostly for the CS MMs early on with all their evasion hax bs

[hard wave]

Tbh bea needs help w her buffs but like w sonia or hilbert its doable

Also I dont get the point of steady aim idt anyone debuffs crit

[tough oriole]

Her DPS is worse than Wally

Her nuke is the only reason she’s good

[hard wave]

Focus blast or?

[unique ivy]

||After pity and barely making it I’ve learned my lesson to stop yoloing||

[tough oriole]

Both
Her DPS isn’t that good
||(In practice it may be better though, since CHop has Galar Pride, but that’s a limited MF )||

[vestal leaf]

Checks out

FB grids are also way more affordable

Than CC

[unique ivy]

Oh I didn’t know Dojo Gloria was stronger than Wally cuz I have her

[vestal leaf]

Dojo gloria has two incredibly good multipliers that she can set herself

Plus max bomb

[hard wave]

|| Well ive been using bea w chop so ||

[broken mulch]

I really need to EX Bea already lol but I’m good on fighting and so many others want EX first

[tardy fiber]

Waiting for Bruno EX, i tried him after he gets his grid in the past and his damage is not bad too just lacking due to no EX

[hard wave]

I need to EX like 16 units (maybe more) but I have like 5 at most

Tho 12 r for music key, 2 for holo foil (including acerola), and the other 2 r just so all my limiteds r

[broken mulch]

I think I only have a few music key units left thankfully

[summer goblet]

I’m feeling temptations for Rei right now

[broken mulch]

Be strong

[summer goblet]

Was going to stop daily pulling this month

Well, i guess i will throw a daily to see what happens only for rei

[pure arrow]

Dammit dammit dammit I ||did 4 multis for Akari, got nothing out of it||

Argghhhhhhh

I should have known

I did manage to save gems for all of June too, how did my pulling habits spiral to this

And how do I get out of it?

[oak crest]

hm, don't spend more than the amount of time u needed for dailies

[pure arrow]

I’m not a paid player

[oak crest]

the lesser time u spend on the game, the lower the chances of getting tempted

[pure arrow]

And the only time I actually spent on this game is for event missions, CSMM and dailies too

I do spend a lot of time on this server though

[oak crest]

ngl i personally dont use pull stimulator as it might backfire if u get lucky on it

[tough oriole]

They mean dailies as in daily missions and battles and stuff

[pure arrow]

I probably should hide the channel
Tried to use it to reduce the itch of actual pulling but it never works, probably makes it worse actually

[lost bobcat]

You mean the pull simulator?

[tardy fiber]

I never tried pull simulator, im scared that i feel that im lucky when i got good luck in it, and then tempted to pull and might cost pity

[crisp oracle]

you can use the Gamepress Pull Simulator that has semi-accurate real-life gem costs, that way you can actually see the scale of what you pull and how much making up those gems really are. Possibly you could use that as a deterent (you will have to click through three pop-ups to actually get to it)

for example

yeah I played around with the sim today

[lapis pine]

It’s kinda broken tho unfortunately currently

Whoever was maintaining it has stopped like a year ago and so it’s a bit weird in a few ways

[hard wave]

Yeah only goes up to like the kalos NCs

[lost bobcat]

If you need to avoid the urge of pulling the simulator is only worsening it

Its cool to test the overall odds but not to force your luck

[lapis pine]

I’ve found the simulator helps usually

It dispels the myth in my brain of “oh I will get the unit first multi”

[winged fossil]

||decided to grab the $1 = 1k gem bundle from anni tonight right before it leaves, gonna have that help with my funds of whatever select i want in the future. figured a dollar here and there will be fine for select funds for lesser (pokemon rather than trainer/top fav mons) favs||

[feral vale]

Definitely one of the best gem deals, so it works~

[winged fossil]

i forever had 5 paid gems on my account, and now its 1,005 hoping i can start getting the sync orb bundle later this year, just waiting for my fam to stabilize a little more jobwise before i start doing anything monthly other than humble bundles. things are still slightly awkward from my mom being let go by her previous job

most likely ill be able to do it without problem in november or december for starting up the extra funds for selects properly

[past imp]

sorry to hear Rhythm. Hope you and your family's situation improves! definitely don't put money in this if your family needs it

[winged fossil]

yeah, it was kinda sudden with mom being let go for her numbers being low due to doing her customer support job properly. we're getting stabilized again now tho

[dawn surge]

... Should I send something to distortion world...?

[upbeat lotus]

Please dont post this here

[dawn surge]

K

Any thing that I can do abt it?

...

[upbeat lotus]

Delete that first, this is a saving thread

[dawn surge]

👍🏻

[upbeat lotus]

Post in #salt-channel instead

[dawn surge]

K

And wht abt my gems?

Ima ruined...

[lost bobcat]

You should have asked here before

You learned the hard way

[dawn surge]

My bad..

[lost bobcat]

Make sure it's a good lesson

[dawn surge]

Ok so we still get more than 10k this month..
Lets hope for the best...

[lost bobcat]

Hope what?

[upbeat lotus]

You are spending gems carelessly

[lost bobcat]

There's no "hope" in reaching pity, just do a quick math if you can
Its either pity or not

And if not, save those 10k gems and within a month and half you'll be on pity range again

[dawn surge]

Well my luck was on fire recently so I tried, didn't work, ah.. Ok next time's the charm 👌👌
Luck is like a pendulum.

Bye

Farewell then

I have somewhere to be

[lost bobcat]

Told you there's no luck when out of pity, just high risk

Pokefairs will rerun eventually, start saving for that moment

Priority list will help a lot

[dawn surge]

Poce said he is a broken unit. So I went a little out of my way...

No prob

Will make it in no time

[ashen thunder]

Bro
Everything is broken these days

Last time we got a mediocre unit was like more than 6 months ago

If you are rolling for "broken" unit, you'll just be in endless loop

[versed flame]

i don't watch those sync pair breakdowns unless i want to hype myself up about a unit that I'm already planning to get

[violet nebula]

Yep

And don't listen to Poce

His in so deep he has to peddle this game

[versed flame]

if this is about ||rei|| i know salamencevx advised not to pull if not a fave

[violet nebula]

This

[versed flame]

so yknow if you want to watch these things some YouTubers are a bit more balanced/cautionary

[ashen thunder]

Hyping units generates more views anyways

Dena just made their job easy by releasing every unit as busted shit

[versed flame]

they "hype up" the units by showcasing them using broken supports like SS Acerola, SC Steven, NC Bede etc too

like. of course you're producing bonkers numbers the team itself is overkill

[mossy hawk]

Pull the pairs you will have most fun with, if that happens to be mainly meta pairs then there is nothing wrong with it

[winged fossil]

ngl i kinda dislike how much poce oversells stuff. esp with how many not-accessible units get used in those sorts of vids.
all i use those vids for is if i dont even understand what a kits doing or something like that

we get less than a pity a month, so theres no reason as a f2p to pay attention to the vid if its not a unit you like the trainer/mon of imo, or playstyle of if youre a gameplay-focused user rather than the trainer/mon

[ashen thunder]

Tbf they are also signed up with dena's content creator program
So they are just doing their job

Too bad it just baits people into impulse rolling

[winged fossil]

literally everything in this game that they put on a banner these days tend to be really good barring some random old reruns sometimes

[versed flame]

it's ok to roll for broken strikers if you like playing that way, but maybe keep in mind that you don't need every broken striker

[winged fossil]

and that you literally cant get every single one they release in the first place due to how gachas are

[versed flame]

offtype is extremely viable, no need to cover everything

[winged fossil]

if offtype wasn't viable, ||palmer|| wouldn't exist.

i just have to resist ||paulo|| for like... 2 more days of basically ignoring the gacha screen.

[versed flame]

good luck!

you can even skip doing the daily scout if it helps, considering that we have alternate daily missions anyways

[winged fossil]

as much as i like lycanroc, i just dont think its worth me going for over waiting for a rerun when we actually have the candies

and by time we do, i wont be surprised if he pops up on a select or free rerun of some kind. so im just trying to skip so i can prep for Cerena rerun being teased by a certain MF rerun.

[versed flame]

yup yup. most likely next month, if not, then by the end of the year

[winged fossil]

i basically just have ||SS N||, Cerena, then probably the next MF releases will be impending on my gem count

im just hoping for no new favs till december or january so i can finish my rerun list off

[versed flame]

my target is still unova NC which is very likely to arrive this year imo
drains to the gem count are other faves such as ||rei and maybe UnoVA rerun, depending on datamine and gem count||
but even in the worst case i should have two pities for NC which is sufficient for my standards

[winged fossil]

yeah NC Unova is what im expecting from next set of MF. which is a big part of why im hoping i can save beyond those two. new N alt chance

[spring ginkgo]

But now do t have enough gems to pity nc calem

Good or bad

[winged fossil]

bruh dont post that here

that goes in #gacha-and-flex

[upbeat lotus]

please read this channel rules before posting

[winged fossil]

[upbeat lotus]

this is a thread for people who want to save gems

dont make them tempting with your flex

[spring ginkgo]

Sorry just wanted to ask about my situation

[upbeat lotus]

please delete them

[spring ginkgo]

Ill delete and ask without pics

[winged fossil]

delete it and ask elsewhere

imo

[upbeat lotus]

yeah this channel isnt suitable for these kinds of question either

#poma-questions is the place

[spring ginkgo]

I should probably phrase my questions correctly

Do you get roughly get 20k every month or is it completely random

[winged fossil]

~21k/mo if you want to safe estimate for your calcs

[spring ginkgo]

Thanks

[vestal leaf]

Yearly average is around 30k

Some months are 22-25, some 30-35k

Expect 25k in short term scenarios tho

[tardy fiber]

Wont this year gem average drop? Because we have a big difference of gem amounts for run up to anniv

[vestal leaf]

2023 average is still 30.something thousands

And Oct was in line with last year

24k, with 7 banners

Just, last year had 3 fair, 2 seasonals and 2 gen pools Vs this year's 2 variety, 1 gen pool, 2 seasonal and 2 fair

[timber wren]

average about 1400 less gems per month

for 2023 vs 2022

[hard wave]

But august wasnt I think september was tho

[timber wren]

august and september were a significant drop from last year that contributed to the lower average

[hard wave]

I thought both annis were ~29k?

[timber wren]

aug-sep last year was around 74k, this year same time period was 59k

[cunning swan]

Sobbing

[hard wave]

Oh

[vestal leaf]

Yeah tbh last year was absurdly generous

And this year was way lower

Iirc 2021 anni was 62k

So we had 62-74-57

57 compared to 62 isn't much worse, but 74 Inbetween really fucks the perception

The fact 2023 average is still over 30k shows that the year is far from being as stingy as some make it out to be tho

[timber wren]

it’s just shy of 30k now i just haven’t updated the numbers yet

[hard wave]

I feel like its the 2nd half of 2023 thats stingy, first half was fine

Like we havent had any missions for LA, blissey bonanza, special rally w training area boost since july, and also out of the 4? rallies we’ve had only 1 had gems

[vestal leaf]

No I understand

I'm just pointing out October was same as last year

Dec-Jan-feb-march is the biggest gem quadrimester of the year tbh

If there's gonna be a trend

That's when we'll most notice it

[lost bobcat]

2024 they'll be generous, going for fifth anni is kinda huge

[stray steeple]

Gem Update

[lost bobcat]

Not sure abt this
You have a plan? You got your unit and now back to saving?

Bcs if not, there's #salt-channel

[stray steeple]

Yep

[grand bramble]

this is 2021 to 2023 anni gems count right

i have a theory

last year was very generous before they want people to pull Ash 100%

or maybe because it's ash himself

this year kinda sucks

[hard wave]

[lost bobcat]

Nah I think it has more to do with introduction of 5/5 grids and daily bundles deals
They moved to attract lightspenders and increased the max unit boost

The old pricing system was really trash, I was buying the 300 x 1$ deal at that time but there was absolutely nothing else for lightspenders
Rn there is crisis out there, ppl start avoiding wasting moneys
And those cheap deals are kinda optimal
So I think they're pushing us to spend just a little

Rather than having huge whales to do all the work

Plus it's not the best moment for gatchas, every title did bad this year

[ashen thunder]

Aug+sept count for
2021: 62650
2022: 75240
2023: 61460

We got less anni gems than 2021

There's no theory other than "they just didn't want to give gems"

[vestal leaf]

The theory is that they needed to inflate Q2 so they went stingy

That's why October is back on regular gem quantity

Q3 start = can release the belt

We'll see in December how it plays out

[ashen thunder]

Well 2022 we also got perma content that threw gems

We didn't get new perma content other than villain arc stuff

Which we get like every 2 months anyways

[snow rose]

Ngl I don’t see the gem count getting much better

[ashen thunder]

Other than fucked up rallies, the gem count was good for anni

Think it's better than other months this year

[vestal leaf]

Nah

[ashen thunder]

Rallies were just missing 6k gems

[vestal leaf]

We had a great 2023

Look at all those 32+k months

[ashen thunder]

The monthly average is still like 30k range

All those 24ks cancelling the 32ks

The anni was okay outside rallies

The problem was mainly coz of the amount of limited units shoved in such a small time frame

If it was just the MFs

Even the shitty rallies would have been less noticable

But they had to do that variety banner, Paulo, palmer

Rather than gem count, the biggest issue is banner count

[hard wave]

Both annis had 19 new units, problem was anni 3 was 4 gacha 15 free vs 12 gacha 7 free

[feral vale]

4th Anni had too many units, let’s be honest

[ashen thunder]

4th anni you mean

I honestly feel the rocket execs should have been perma

Like how victory road was

It wouldn't have increased the gem count but like, after the anni 4 ended we pretty much have no sign of it ever happening

Unlike anni 3 with its massive update

[feral vale]

Yeah whoops, mixed up the numbers

[fallen path]

yeah if the gem count is similar but the banner is doubled, it's not great

it should scale ideally with the amount of banners, but we know that ain't happening

[vestal leaf]

Well last year we had 7 banners like this year

But we exchanged a fair and a spotlight with 2 varieties

Same gems tho

Ideally it's a win since variety are the easiest banners to skip

But last month was absurd in terms of banners

[hard wave]

Last yr was 6 wasnt it? + raihan’s lodge banner and the seasonal reruns

[vestal leaf]

7 iirc

[hard wave]

SS Wally, Victor, Melony, Gordie, FIris, Fallister

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/oICQSFp15UnFmVh7W9Q2VMvJ5Cp-tQcQ_bfeRyPPf6s/https/tinyurl.com/46k7em9m

Yeah 6 new 2 reruns

[vestal leaf]

Mhhhh

[hard wave]

With tiered for spotlights and seasonal rerun

[vestal leaf]

I remembered 3 fairs

So I guess we gained a variety and we traded spotlight for variety

[hard wave]

Maybe ur thinking of Raihan

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1010594009720295425/1156709319136522362/RDT_20230927_2349154506668395341076656.jpg

In terms of reruns its a bit more tho

We have 2 triple banners and nc calem

So 12 banners total

[vestal leaf]

Yeah but tbh rerun avalanche effect is kinda inevitable

Especially during seasonal months

[hard wave]

Yeah, I meant we have 3 new reruns than we did last yr

[vestal leaf]

Especially since we now have HSE reruns

[feral vale]

For third Anni? Or for Oct?

[hard wave]

October

[tardy fiber]

November 22 also has dry gems, hurm i hope there's no fave in November as probably there's MF in December

[hard wave]

I hope its a skippable SC

[sturdy flower]

i hope it isn't Iono

i don't need anymore electric units for the next year or two

[vernal glade]

I hope it’s a SC skip also

[winged fossil]

if it was to be Unova NC in december/jan, what pokemon group might they even focus on? are we even missing anything major from Unova legendary/myth groupwise?

cause so far the NC's have been either popular mons like Greninja or legendary trios like the birds, but we already have all but kyurem white from the main trio of the region afaik

not too familiar with some popular unova options, i guess theres the swords of justice but we already have cobalion from master bp so ive got a feeling might not be those... and i dont see them doing a 2nd reshiram MF

really wish i was more familiar with popular unova mons beyond zoroark

[hard wave]

It could also be alola

Marshadow, box legends, tapus, and u-necrozma/dusk mane r taken so idk

Ig zeraora and magearna but prob wont match

[upbeat lotus]

Unova NC can be paired with 2 forms of Meloetta

[winged fossil]

that pokemon is so forgettable for me i unironically might skip unova nc even if N gets stuck with that mon...

[tardy fiber]

Terrakion, Thundurus, Meloetta... Virizion probably saved for Morgan

Also they could always do shiny

[hard wave]

SOJ, Genies, box legends, keldeo, victini, kyurem, meloetta, genesect

Eh none of them would rlly work or some r taken

Oh alola NCs could be blacephelon and stakataka

[tardy fiber]

Zeraora, melmetal, magearna for alola nc

[hard wave]

It seems like ncs match tho

Like birds r a trio and shiny/non shiny

[cinder crescent]

How much gems do you get from Co-op?

[grand bramble]

+freegems

[jade lava]

Short version
In-Depth version

Gem Total : 51,960

[grand bramble]

Uhh.... Opps

[grand bramble]

Here.. U can see it

[cinder crescent]

Thanks my man

[grand bramble]

anytime

[cinder crescent]

Dang I nearly completed them all

Well except the main story

[grand bramble]

what chapter ur at

Or have u reach villain arc yet

[tardy fiber]

Kanto to Galar VA so it did not include Paulo VA so there's some more

[grand bramble]

Hang on.... rosa and Oak bingo is still there?

I think we talked about this before... But I forgot somehow

[vestal leaf]

They updated the lenght this anni

[broken mulch]

Has LuSSamine banner ever rerun?

[warm scarab]

Who else skipping these 2 new banners and saving? Keen to hear what you are saving for.

[warm scarab]

Don't believe so

[broken mulch]

Thanks

[tardy fiber]

I skip everything this month, saving for legendaries, mythicals, UBs, paradoxes

Recovering from Anni, 67345 currently now

[vestal leaf]

Volo & Cogita ezpz

Arezu too if with hlilligant

[vestal leaf]

I'm pretty sure she did for alola VA

[lofty relic]

You can check reruns on pory for future reference

[torpid prawn]

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[vestal leaf]

I'm bot illiterate 💀

[broken mulch]

Ohh my bad

[versed flame]

hm unova NC i would've thought swords of justice trio but cobalion is already taken

though ig cobalion is ""only"" a main character BP pair

shiny versions? 🤔

[cinder crescent]

Im at uhh

The chapter against Sophocles and Uhhh Pabu? At the PML Tourney

[grand bramble]

Yes??

[grand bramble]

Not bad... Keep progressing and save GEMS!!!

[cinder crescent]

GEMS FOR THE CHAMPION RED!

🥳

[warm scarab]

So half year Anni you get another big 3 right? If so then im guessing you would want to save 3 months straight? Meaning you can really only pull 3 max banners...

Between now and then

[winged fossil]

With the dryness of these months it might be more two banners than three unless they ramp the gems up again early next year tbh. If you want all three and chance of a fourth. I would not expect it to be only three at a time forever

[sand crown]

It's gotten to the point where you need to be on gem lockdown between annis if you want a good chance of going for the sweep

[vestal leaf]

We get around 350k per year

Do your calcs for how many banners you can afford for that

[broken mulch]

Huh just 9 banners?

[grand bramble]

9 and half pity

unless...

[tardy fiber]

I should count my blessings, im one of the lucky ones ||20 faves so from 20 different banners from after last year's anniversary till this years anniv||

It could be 9 and a half

So this information will help me to even better resist temptation of non faves

[winged fossil]

||im gonna be real i almost broke at like 20min to the last reset for paulo||

like fr i panic closed the game the second i came to my senses

||as much as i want lycanroc i just cant, i must hold strong to finish this rerun list||

i have a plan and i must stick to it

[tardy fiber]

Be strong comrade

[winged fossil]

thankfully he left tonight so the temptations gone now that reset past

kinda feel glad for managing to not impulse for once when i get such temptations

just flipped through the banner page, 0 pairs remain between me and my target for the month. its time for some peaceful saving until datamine basically.

||the only temptation this month now is SS N and im pulling that no matter what next month has. the other two hes sharing with look fun~||

[grand bramble]

||NEXT month is volo||

[winged fossil]

plus ill still have on average 2 pities to exit november with if its a skip for me. which will leave 1 pity as "spending" allowance for till ny prob if i spot anything new

[winged fossil]

thats hes dcember/jan MF material for sure

[tardy fiber]

Hopefully||he comes with origin Giratina, he will be my first hisui pair ||

[grand bramble]

U know

On second thought....
The skill gear is proven to be useful afterall

[tardy fiber]

Its useful, just i gonna focus on rainbow feathers especially after i just knew that can only use 2 pins per gear, 1 to lock effect and 1 to lock themes, other stuffs will keep rerolling with every feathers

FallPhoebe feather and FallRoxanne feather are nice as well

But they are in prize pool event

[grand bramble]

I see... People are getting more active with these stuffs lately

It's a good recourses

[tardy fiber]

Well the rainbow feather gears are a straight upgrade from normal 3* type gears...plus it even has 2 extra themes, while type gears only have type theme

FPhoebe feather will be nice for my sskorrina and ssrcynthia

FRoxanne hurm none of my faves uses sandstorm for now well maybe good for future faves

[winged fossil]

if it wasnt for the themes id have considered ssethan due to the opp trapped one ngl.

the themes basically ruin that possibility tho

[tardy fiber]

Yep cannot even use at zerena as she also restrained, but well still a straight upgrade from a normal 3* ground gear part

Next year's fall rerun, we might get another feather to give to second part

So stacks

Well can use for anniraihan but i skipped him

Also nice for Bertha

[winged fossil]

flygon doesnt have the gym leader theme

so its another "oops no themes"

[tardy fiber]

Really? Well i guess better to keep the gears based on types then,easier to manage

[winged fossil]

yup, i just checked my raihan when seeing that statement

[tardy fiber]

I named my skill gears
Akari A - because bandanna
Rei B - because bracelet
FPhoebe C - because pin (later)
FRoxanne A - because bandanna (later)

In the future if there's an event again that has dark/fighting/ghost/ground, i will use it on other parts different than the one currently have

[winged fossil]

similarly, N loses Rival when going from normal to summer for example. its rather sad when they lose the most general theme they can have for it

[oak crest]

Imo the gear themes will be best on regions since there is only 8(+1 soon)

But no idea if u can get all 3 regions only for the gears tho

[winged fossil]

probably can, but itd be heavy rng

[oak crest]

Only downside is eggmons and pasio chars can't use em

[tardy fiber]

Yep, i rather focus on typings...well a character can have various themes, but we mainly see their typings to do contents

[tardy fiber]

They can use if types

[oak crest]

Ye

Region and typing probably the best

[tardy fiber]

Well pasio and eggmon cannot use it if region

[winged fossil]

id prob want MC+ either region or typing if i had 2 themes to hope for on a gear

[oak crest]

As compared to some random char themes

[winged fossil]

MC is VERY wide of a pool especially with eggs

even before our player MC is a lot of pairs

[tardy fiber]

Galar NC in shambles, locked from using it

They are all rivals

[winged fossil]

i have double the exd MC pairs as the rivals i have.

[tardy fiber]

I just gonna focus on types, they can be from any background...you have a similar type, good then hop on

[ashen thunder]

I am just gonna avoid gears

Looks like too much hassle for 1% dmg boost

[vestal leaf]

I mean I'm dumping stamina on the stage rather than anything else now that I've got past 500

I think it's just something players will passively stack on eventually

[ashen thunder]

Tbf they did give perfect rainbow feathers for gacha units

So eventually gear issues will be solved as we get more rainbow feathers

[tardy fiber]

Yep, like we got 4 feathers this month, cannot wait for the collection to stacks

Im also a rainbow feather gang

[ashen thunder]

Dark and fighting type don't have to farm gears at all already

Only 16 types left

[tardy fiber]

We also get ground and ghost

From fall event

[grand bramble]

Should I return in November??

[mossy hawk]

Honestly the rainbow feathers aren't that good, average stats(like regular type gear) and passives that are not optimal

Optimal as in not red, the values could have been higher

[grand bramble]

Looking back from the past February 2023 till now...im still not hype about this datamine

So no....

[tardy fiber]

Its a skip month for me, so i just login and play for gems for future faves

[rare swan]

if you want to play in the future it's definitely worth keeping up the gem grind occasionally

[grand bramble]

71 now... This is like the first time that I didn't see you adding faves this month

Like every month I see... U always add number u know

[tardy fiber]

Well there's some months that there's no faves, iirc the sczinnia month also no fave

Detective sc

[grand bramble]

Oh... I probably forgot XD

[tardy fiber]

I hope its a regular occurrence now especially VA already ended

They love to dump my faves during VA

I think only Kanto and Galar don't have any

[grand bramble]

Got it!

[tardy fiber]

This is true especially when cannot form pity to get the desired pair, later will quit again

[grim plover]

i have to do this

[ashen thunder]

It's still better than the ones you'll hunt and try to get

[grim plover]

i want to have at least 2 pities for the november MFs

[ashen thunder]

Optimal ones aren't even guaranteed....iirc everpin doesn't lock all stats

[hard wave]

Everpin is for ONE thing iirc

[tardy fiber]

I just knew yesterday that we can only use 2 everpin for one gear, 1 for effect and 1 for theme...cannot use 6 pins

So i scrap making my own gears entirely and jist gonna focus on feathers

Rainbow feathers

[ashen thunder]

Yea optimal gear chasing is hell

You still have to fish for 2 good themes and 2 subs

It's not fun at all

[tardy fiber]

So even after 2 pins, the 2 effects + 2 themes and 3 stats will keep on rolling with each feather

[grim plover]

getting an optimal gear is horrible yeah, but i find it fun to roll nice things not expecting the perfect gear

the feathers are kinda cheap anyways

[ashen thunder]

I wouldn't mind hunting optimal stats if ever pin can be used to lock all stats

2/6 is pain

[tardy fiber]

Yep same

Better to have slow progress than mostly RNG

[mossy hawk]

Some soloists have already used gears for their advantage

You can definitely get very lucky

[ashen thunder]

Solo community isn't even 500 people......

Most people are casuals

[tardy fiber]

Im from a trio community, DeNa allow 3 pairs in a team for a reason

[ashen thunder]

Also I am psure "can definitely get lucky" is the last thing I expected to read in zen

[mossy hawk]

Feathers are farmable

[grim plover]

instead of wasting gems you can waste feathers now

[tardy fiber]

Im still spending stamina for theme orbs, 14 pairs left

[ashen thunder]

Even gems have pity
Feathers don't

Where my 200 feather usage = 1 substat of choice

[tardy fiber]

But sad, i can only farm theme orbs today...next reset already factory head event

[hard wave]

43 for me more bcz I can get registeel and lodge gio later this month

[ashen thunder]

I am saying coz I spent 80 feathers and still haven't unlocked sun damage up

It's so bad due to sheer number of substats

[mossy hawk]

Yellow feather is very random

[hard wave]

Im atleast trying to max out my 5/6*s theme skills, 17 left atm

[mossy hawk]

I wonder when we will get the chance to farm the other ones

[tardy fiber]

They probably just gonna make it event store exclusive

[ashen thunder]

I think I have all theme skills maxed

But then my roster is small so

[tardy fiber]

9 more non eggmon pairs to 5* and then i can work on 5* shiny eggmons

These slow roster progress are the things that help to keep me occupied during skip month

[ashen thunder]

I think I have like 29 4* non eggmon

Well I don't plan on investing eggmons till I ex everyone

So eggs will forever be neglected
Except weather setters

[tardy fiber]

I gonna start doing them after im done with non eggmon pairs because it will be a while before we get new bp pairs, lodge is not much of a problem because only 1 new non eggmon pair a month

Kinda missed NPC pairs

I hope DeNa doesn't scrap the idea entirely

[broken mulch]

Oh snap really?

[tardy fiber]

Yep fall event also have rainbow feathers too

[vestal leaf]

Well you can roll

And get better shit

Just don't expect anything in 99.99% of rolls

[vestal leaf]

The one thing I don't like is how optimize sets them on teams that don't actually take advantage of them at all

[tardy fiber]

Oh because i collect gears based on types i do preset teams for each typings, so i dont have optimize issue as i already preset before

[grand bramble]

guyz

is chest here

i wonder if he STILL saving

[timber wren]

he is indeed still saving

[vestal leaf]

Yeah ofc he is

[grand bramble]

so proud of him

if clair suddenly came....hehehehe

i know his faves very well

[vestal leaf]

I don't fully agree with his dedication as the idea of playing a gacha while getting 10 new units every year for 4 years would make me go mental

But if he's fine by it props

[sturdy flower]

the new gear system is a nice cheap power boost for units that lack stats

you can get like 40 atk more than type

[tardy fiber]

Well its 350k a year, someone out there might get less than 10 units a year if all the banners they go cost pity

[vestal leaf]

The 10 chest gets are freebies

We all get 10

At least

Between BP, lodge, new shit like team ups and so on

I think average player gets like 20-25 if not 30 new shiny units per year when scouting consistently

[tardy fiber]

Iirc one of fair select that chest has become coins because he forgot to pull...iirc its the first free fair select DeNa gave to us

I forgot if its from Ash event or earlier

[vestal leaf]

Chest forgot

• the 100 multis
• the free fair
  Last year

[grand bramble]

🤨

[tardy fiber]

Well chest did get other pairs occasionally, i remembered that he got ssacynthia

Sometimes he appeared in gacha flex

[vestal leaf]

Did he?

I thought he only scouted bunny may

[grand bramble]

hey....so || he did pull before ||

[vestal leaf]

Duh

[grand bramble]

i mean....i never heard of it for a long time

[tardy fiber]

Ok you already saw it so let me delete

[lean mango]

I think it was just from dailies or something

[tardy fiber]

Yep just others though Chest never pulls, he usually does dailies

[hard wave]

Chest has scouted before, ik he has maxie maybun ball guy, maybe others

He’s doing dailies on zerena too iirc

[tardy fiber]

He have Holiday skyla and rosa too

[ashen thunder]

Why does that sound like more limited units than I own

Doesn't sound like a saver at this point

[hard wave]

https://youtu.be/5TvK3Gqz2cQ?si=fB0KDOyws5eJzSKI

[tardy fiber]

Well doesn't change that he have more than 1.1mil free gems

[hard wave]

Its old but quite a few limiteds

[fallen path]

Chest has paid gems lol

[hard wave]

Yeah he has like 1.6M rn, idk if all of it is free tho

[ashen thunder]

When you spend paid gems then there's 0 reason to use free gems

Oh well
There's 1
When you run out of paid gems

[fallen path]

idk if Chest uses for select scouts or just dailies

but either way, I don't care how others play the game. Chest isn't a whale anyways, just a few throusand paid gems. Maybe the 3k paid gem bundle person like me

[tardy fiber]

Fellow 3k gem paid bundle guy 🤝

Its the most valuable offer around so i had to skip other offers

I need to grab it again in 2 resets

[lost bobcat]

Just avoid falling for dailies and it's a stockpile of value

[tawny cedar]

Have we ever gotten a gem rally during non anni months

[timber wren]

yes quite a few the issue is that we havent had a gem rally in a long time now

[tawny cedar]

Hmm

Then I'm not in the green for farty

[feral vale]

Why are you calling him that

[hard wave]

Havent they all been VA or anni?

Only one I remember besides that is hisui

[fallen path]

Some of the nicknames this community comes up with I don’t agree lol

[fallen path]

We haven’t even had Blissy Bonanza for a while

[tardy jolt]

We are not getting a mid month really. Even if we were, no resources would be distributed before the end of October banners

[tardy fiber]

Well im not sure if festive seasonals ever have gem rally, i know that VA/SC/Anniversary has it.

Oh right, when we can get cake coins from rei akari rally?

[hard wave]

2 resets

[tardy fiber]

Neat

It will make both of my tech and support coins 18...so i just need to wait for 8 days for 2 cakes

[hard wave]

Im working on zerena rn, I think I need 13 days?

I should be at 2 daily tickets rn so need 13 days to get 3 more coins, + 1 from the rally, and it’ll take 11 days to get the other 3 coins from daily

Wait maybe im at 3 tickets, if so then 12 days

Should also be able to get another strike candy within a day or 2 of the cake so I can 3/5 her as well

Oh it seems like im at 3

[sand crown]

I’m holding into the cakes for now. That being said, Zygarde EX role is tempting

[tardy fiber]

Oh strike, it will be a while for me...sad that i usually not syncing much for my electric team so im not in a rush for ncblue cake...thanks to tapu koko that i have to keep syncing with him for permanent elec terrain

[hard wave]

Im at 16, but idk if ill use it yet

[tardy fiber]

I gonna do ||zerena and palmer, zerena because i always sync with her...palmer because he could appreciate the stats and the extra sync nuke especially because he is normal type without any type advantage||

[hard wave]

|| zerena needing to sync is the main reason I wanted to giver her a cake ||

[tardy fiber]

Yep i think going forward, i will prioritise those that have form change

We need sync to access it well except deoxys

And aegislash

Support sync is also usually sync first but most support got tech cake and i aint nuking

[hard wave]

Atleast we can save cakes ig sprint or field would be rlly good

[deft glen]

|CCalem getting Tech is such a disappointment, he should've gotten field... or even sprint

[tardy fiber]

Not sure why, DeNa seems to avoid those 2 cake roles...i wonder whats their problems, all the cake coins are obtained in the same rate...its not move coins where we are severely lack of sprint and field, well this month gives a bunch of sprint

Hope they add lodge guest milestones till level 200 to give sprint and tech coins, i am able to form the candies if that happens

[hard wave]

Ive heard smb said they dont want to make supports too OP, but they can still be a bit bulkier from the stats

It could also be they want to sell the new roles why pull for them when u can just wait for the cake

[tardy fiber]

Perhaps in the future like we do have ncblue that has a strike cake role because it synergise with his passive that give elec rebuff on sync...maybe if future support that have kit that synergise well with field or sprint, they can get it

[grim plover]

can't wait for NC Bede to get Striker role and have higher offensive stat than anni steven

[tardy fiber]

Hope annisteven gets support role, i need more reason to change to his mega form

[lapis pine]

Why didn’t you save for your fav when you knew he was coming

I hope you can get him next year I guess

[grim plover]

i'd prefer tech or field i dont like anni skyla

[broken mulch]

Man I’m super confused with skill gear even after reading the guide. So I can only lock 1 of each kind of skill huh

[sturdy flower]

yes, sadly

and you cant lock stats so

that stings

[sturdy plank]

only new years have it

oh wait nevermind thats free gems not rally

[naive imp]

Content warning ||Can anyone get an estimate on how many gems we'll get until red, hau and lance banner comes around?||

[hard wave]

6,070

[tardy fiber]

Oh its for Gauntlet?

I need to farm pink cookies, i spent 40 cookies for cs2 on my shiny kangaskhan

[fallen path]

[naive imp]

Oof

[naive imp]

Thanks

[past imp]

supports getting tech or strike EX role in general suck because their damage sucks. they need field/sprint EX to shine, but I guess that may be too OP (basically a field EX role would be like SSA Cynthia's native sync)

[tardy fiber]

At least its good for ncblue because his sync rebuff change from 1 enemy to all enemies...but not much for others

[past imp]

he's basically the only exception since DeNA intentionally did that for his rebuff effect

[tardy fiber]

Yep hopefully if future support have kit that accommodates field or sprint, dena will give those cake role to them just like on ncblue

[hard wave]

Tbh any support can work w sprint or field I think

[tardy fiber]

Now most of them having tech will cause tech cake to be more in demand as strikers and supports most got tech cake role

[hard wave]

Its not rlly a kit thing

[tardy fiber]

Yep but not sure why DeNa doesnt put to them

Not like we lacking sprint tech cake coins

We does lack sprint tech move coins but not cake coins

[past imp]

no on'es going to use a tech cake on a support. total waste

[tardy fiber]

As all 5 roles are in the rotation for cake coins since start

[hard wave]

Some ppl will cuz faves but yeah most ppl wouldnt

[past imp]

even faves.. the piddly damage will now do mediocre damage. doubt you'd even notice it

[hard wave]

Like 78 > 117 dmg on sync isnt that helpful

[tardy fiber]

I can see Jasmine, Rosa, Dawn fan to do that

[hard wave]

Yeah, but someone on this server gave argenta a cake

So some r willing to majority prob wont

[past imp]

i guess if true faves. so much more damage to give tech cake to striker. make bad guys disintegrate

[tardy fiber]

I probably can give cake to them if they are my fave but they will be so low in priority order that may look like i dont like em

[past imp]

I guess to keep things more on topic.. I need help resisting ||pulling for Rei||. I have his best partners and feel like it would be a fun team. but I know I don't need him

[tardy fiber]

For now my priority is zerena > palmer > ncblue > ncleaf...and save i guess i dont feel the need to make ncred more overkill

[winged fossil]

i forget, was it 1 coin from the rally that we're getting?

in a couple resets

[tardy fiber]

1 cake coin from each role

[past imp]

ss serena definitely feels nice getting a support cake since she wants to sync and mega evolve

[winged fossil]

so like only 5 days worth of rewards

lame

[tardy fiber]

If next month will have another fighting pair that maybe a fave, you will have best partner for it too...in conclusion, it is a never ending chase...unless its a fave of course

There's always be pair that outperform others in each update

Only fave factor that can make you prefer them than the others

[tardy fiber]

Theres also 30 general scout tix, those need more than 5 days to get

[past imp]

eh.. we want gems lol

[tardy fiber]

Well i want it too but its better than champ spirits

[winged fossil]

honestly the 30 gen scout tix prob just gonna be a

[tardy fiber]

Better something than nothing

The champ spirits is such a waste especially when i have 3k+ of it

[winged fossil]

me with 785 :

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-worthless-gravity-falls-dipper-pines-worthless-gif-25136060

[tardy fiber]

Darn i was wrong