Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)

[tardy fiber]

Oh right i need to read about elec HS, i dragged it long enough...time to preset 5 teams

[hard wave]

Are we even online? Since co op is dead outside masters day and gear events

[tardy fiber]

Co-op is alive for few days now due to rocket missions

Will be alive in 4 resets as well due to flying gear, finally a buff to annisteven

[upbeat lotus]

this game requires internet connection to play so technically we are online

[hard wave]

Ig but its still not a regular thing, oh and regular co op is prob smth most ppl do once for the gems unless they want to grind gear

[hard wave]

true

[sand crown]

A bandaid on a gunshot wound but yeah I’ll take what I can get

[gloomy holly]

Summer Liza havers will be very happy

[vestal leaf]

Poma ain't gonna end before 2025

Dw

Maintenance mode

No new content

Customized banners

Basically the game goes into "minimum investment for maximized revenue"

It usually lasts a year

Then the game EoS

Depends tho

If revenue stays decent enough, I can see Poma being in maintenance mode for years once they add all mainline characters

[upbeat lotus]

we still have Hisui and Paldea characters not in the game yet, so we can safely assume that this game will live for another 3 years at least

[vestal leaf]

3 idk

2 yeah almost guaranteed

[grim plover]

idk, by then we're going to have gen 10

[tardy fiber]

We wont eos until we get all 18 type teamworks

11 left so like 5 years

[grim plover]

idk what tpc's plan to mantain this game because theorically it could keep working as long as it keeps making money. New characters are added slowly so they have the chance to keep up with new gen releases.

[tardy fiber]

Can just design more OC if they run out of characters to introduce, pretty sure people will still pull the pair if its as cool as Lear

[grim plover]

they will always have characters to add

just see adaman (F) from the dlc

wating for the day they let us add new pokemon like pogo

[tardy fiber]

I can see possible poison legendary on DLC, still waiting for bug legendary ...well DeNa can put 1 of the kitakami trio as poison teamwork

Type : Null can be normal

[grim plover]

arceus should be the normal teamwork

but prob too popular to be free

[vestal leaf]

Wish it was the case lol

The game will EoS when sales become too shit compared to investment

[tardy fiber]

Also no mythical so far being type teamwork

[lost bobcat]

I think we got plenty of time, i'm not worried of slowdowns
Sure 2021 and 2022 were huge years and they lost a LOT after third anni bcs "miscommunication", but the revenue is also based on many factors
Dena got way less greedy lately, it's great for lightspenders and the free content is fine enough

[vestal leaf]

Yeah the bundles tanked the revenue a lot

But tbh this preAnni was a complete failure overall

For reasons detached from bundles

[tardy fiber]

The one that cut my expenses to DeNa are the Apple price hike my currency being hit by price increase twice

Still buying the 1k paid deal and sync orb 20 days bundle though

[lost bobcat]

Ye the sync orb bundle is amazing, just need time to stack
I tried other gatchas but they all felt so bad, the difference of reward between top players and the other is too much
Poor f2p content
Not to mention the prices

[tardy fiber]

F2P enjoys this month a lot,
-free 100 pulls
-free lodge guest select
-free Rocket admin
-free 1 5* from every region from rocket co-op
-5* guaranteed 10 paid gem deal for 10 days (for lightspenders)

-free rainbow bp ticket

[lost bobcat]

Yup

[vestal leaf]

You already said that

Ah wait

You mean master bp

[tardy fiber]

Even if people create new account this month, they will be swimming in 5* pairs

Not include the ones from permanent VA and legendary adventures

[vestal leaf]

Well they did make content pretty scarce and gems low

[lost bobcat]

Also 4 event units

[vestal leaf]

Makes sense they instead capitalize on freebies

[lost bobcat]

Rip no bugsy rerun

[tardy fiber]

I thought our content is quite a lot, just the gems are little...like last year got ash event, then sstred+ssacynthia, and scrosa event

This anni got VA finale, nckantrio event, palmer+argenta event

[lost bobcat]

They had a good anni run up

[tardy fiber]

Yep the contents are about the same, only the gem amount are little

[vestal leaf]

No bonanza, 1 EBE, mostly just reruns aside Palmer and NCs events (who are pretty concise and dry events for rewards and number of story stages)

[tardy fiber]

Well we get 1 hs and 2 special cs this month

[vestal leaf]

Rerunning events shouldn't be 80+% of the content

[lost bobcat]

We need balance between reruns and new content

[vestal leaf]

Yeah the thing is

There's no such balance

[tardy fiber]

Its been a year since scrosa last running so im not that mad about it

[vestal leaf]

It's always mostly reruns

[tardy fiber]

But why bede event

[vestal leaf]

Yeah why bede

[tardy fiber]

I feel like its still fresh

[vestal leaf]

They could've reran teaparty

Instead

Or pokewars

[tardy fiber]

Cannot, there's scrosa event

[vestal leaf]

Anything that could fit in

[tardy fiber]

There's already sc

[vestal leaf]

I mean the stages

Not the banners

[tardy fiber]

Yep the stage

[vestal leaf]

They put a select in

2 actually

[tardy fiber]

There's already sc event this month

[vestal leaf]

But you say putting a stage with the select is not ok?

[tardy fiber]

If they want to rerun sc event maybe next month

[vestal leaf]

Newbies will join and see a select that has nothing

NOTHING tied to it

[tardy fiber]

Pokewar is released on November

[vestal leaf]

I can understand fairs but not SCs

Like, the 3-5k fair selects

[tardy fiber]

There's anniversary tied with it, they always do select scouts on anni

[vestal leaf]

But they put SC select to inflate revenue but thought putting the event would be too much

Yeah but not SC

3-5k fair select makes sense

[lost bobcat]

They're great, would you rather spend 20k to get that unit few months early?

[livid orbit]

For Select Scout A and B, which pair is most recommended?

[vestal leaf]

None

[tardy fiber]

Probably ask #poma-questions

[vestal leaf]

If not fave

[tardy fiber]

Mostly its based on faves and your roster

[vestal leaf]

If you're looking for meta talk check out #poma-lounge or questions

[livid orbit]

I do have NC Hop. But I'm also set on getting more units

[vestal leaf]

SCs and seasonals age badly by default so the only reason to scout them is if faves

Or if their kit is more durable

[livid orbit]

SC Diantha seems still good even with NC Hop?

[vestal leaf]

Both like syncing

So imo they overlap

[tardy fiber]

They does synergised well

Because nchop debuffs everything that scdiantha want for multiplier

[oak crest]

i have both but I never run them in the same team (I pair SC Diantha with SSAC instead)

[vestal leaf]

^

They do the same stuff

[oak crest]

both are respectable nukers on their own so wouldnt really recommend running both in the same team

[vestal leaf]

Especially because SC diantha is a Phys Def hitter albeit her special attack kit

[tardy fiber]

I usually not syncing with nchop because it will mess my timing due to he also need to press zone often so i sync with scdiantha/scguzma instead

[vestal leaf]

If I had to choose meta wise an SC to pull it would be SC Steven or SC Lyra

Both are rebuff enablers which is niche enough to be good til EoS

But this game is extremely free so I wouldn't recommend pulling any of them if not fave

I don't have either and I never felt the need to get a unit just for meta

[tardy fiber]

Yep scsteven probably meta for a long time but yep i skip because i hate stoutland

[vestal leaf]

One or more faves will eventually drop that are meta enough to carry you til EoS

[sand crown]

I can live with that

Also, SC Zinnia applies dark rebuff on the SC meta convo

[vestal leaf]

I think with current slow decline in revenue they could push 2 years easily

[sand crown]

Granted, dark is very well populated

[vestal leaf]

But I don't think there's a possibility where it decreases so much that they drop the game before they implement 95% of main games characters

So imo it's gonna stay alive til 2025 at least

[sand crown]

Pokemon is always going to sell and that gives the game some life indeed

[vestal leaf]

Maybe 6th Anni might be the deadline

Depends

We'll see how next year goes

[sand crown]

Most of my faves and pokemon are in the game, and a couple of reruns should do it for me. Still will stick for alts and such

[vestal leaf]

2023 was harsh as fuck but it could be a turnpoint depending on how they take such heavy drops during "dead" months

[sand crown]

I do think I’ll never have the rockets but that’s how it goes. Not going to cry abour it

[vestal leaf]

150-180mil is 2020 tier revenue

But we had still some 270mil so it shouldn't be too bad overall

[sand crown]

Definitely but I feel like this is their strategy. See how much they can get away with as far as nickel and diming the base

[lost bobcat]

So far i'm enjoying more poma than mainline games
So imo it will last for a while

[sand crown]

It’s why I ultimately chose not to ||scout TR tiered||

[sand crown]

Mainline has essentially been the same game since I bought Blue in 1998 so at least this was something different and enjoyable

[tardy fiber]

Same, i like that most characters from different gen are here in this game

I like to think PoMa as the continuation of their journey from mainline

Although its not canon, but there's a lot of reference that the characters mentioned events in mainline game

[vestal leaf]

I do miss first two years of story events when every event was about crossovers instead of being themed around same region groups with other region characters passing by or being background

Hope that with death of VA we go back to that

[tardy fiber]

Well the seasonal events and sc are usually not single region focus, i can understand why they did it for VA...the VA name specifically mention certain region

Although Lillie in kanto VA is still puzzling

Leaf erasure

[uneven pewter]

Flat stats never tasted so good

[sturdy flower]

SS Ethan will finally be less annoying

[tardy fiber]

My 150 annisteven only have 306 attack, 3* gear will +60 iirc so 20% increase

[vestal leaf]

It's only 10%

Because you already have 3* gear

Which are halved

So it's only +30

[grim plover]

same

can't wait for his tech/field role

[vestal leaf]

I really hope it's supp ex or field

[uneven pewter]

Ss steven would be pretty bomb with field but i too see him getting tech to help out his god awful sync

[cunning swan]

Almost 2 years later and I'm still crying over this

[unkempt vortex]

leaf fans cant complain ever again

[grim plover]

i would like a support 6ex

he basically has striker, tech and sprint roles

(and an almost field role)

[gloomy holly]

That would make his Defense Forme more usable

[sand crown]

I vote for Support EX

[gloomy holly]

He becomes Aura Cynthia 2.0

[gloomy holly]

His Defense Forme is technically a support role

[narrow hinge]

Am I able to amass 12k gems in 24 days to pity a unit?

[unkempt vortex]

No

There’s not even 10k left

[timber wren]

we dont know what the gem income will be beyond 28sep but it's quite possible to get that much by 06oct

best to wait and see until we get the next update, which is probably in two weeks

[hard wave]

9140 gems left until the 28th, 500 extra tmrw bcz we can get the 500 that was timegated by the co op missions, and 3k from the rally on the 29th so yeah

[deft glen]

I don't think saying || I love yoloing || is an appropriate quote for gem zen...

more like #gacha-and-flex

[unique ivy]

Yeah realized and privates it

So should I remove from this place

[junior trout]

yea

[tardy fiber]

You can stay at this place, just be reminded to not say #gacha-and-flex stuff in a saving channel...its kinda like flexing about your spending on a bunch of peoples that are currently saving

[cunning swan]

I know

I'll complain about Nate now

[tough oriole]

If i can complain about the lack of lillie, then you can complain as much as you want about leaf

[oak crest]

Lillie hasn't gotten anything for a good while tho tbh

[winged fossil]

new when, she got nothing from VA

whats yalls pokemon predictions for halloween this year btw? so far im thinking chance of Hisui Zoroark but, might be a bit of a longshot to see hisui in a seasonal this soon

[oak crest]

Been over 1y since her last alt

[winged fossil]

historically it looks like its primarily ghost/dark types for halloween

[rare swan]

Always been 1 Unova trainer and 1 Ghost specialist

Really hoping they change that trend this year

[winged fossil]

HZoroark, HTyphlosion would prob be my top 2 if they were willing to do hisui this soon for a seasonal pair, but eh.

...huh.

[winged fossil]

tbf a ghost type specialist definitely is the type to celebrate halloween the most, but... why unova specifically...?

what does unova have to relate to halloween...

cause if its really been that consistently, then im convinced there has to be something to tie it

[rare swan]

Unova bias

Hence why I'm hoping it changes this year, sick of them getting half the Halloween seasonals

[winged fossil]

i mean, i wouldnt complain about a halloween N dena...

but yeah, i dont get the connection other than "just cuz they can"

...is halloween not as big of a deal outside of america? i have no clue about overseas culture.

but thats literally the only thing i can possibly guess if it is less major outside of america, since unova is pokemon america iirc

acerola... allister... morty...
...could be agatha, phoebe, fantina, shauntal, ryme for the ghost trainer slot, going off the "notable ghost type trainers" list on bulbapedia.

im tempted to predict spiritomb. but im not too familiar with who out of these itd be most likely to be a sync pair with. not familiar enough with the ghost type trainers

[vestal leaf]

Unovadev was put in "make only seasonals" for the last year and so

[rare swan]

Recovery....back to 200k+

[vestal leaf]

Who did you go for tai

[rare swan]

||All the Rocket execs, took me a full free pity and a few paid tiers but I got all 4||

[vestal leaf]

||Congrats, that's pretty nice RNG considering the odds||

[gloomy holly]

||Why did Ethan and Kris took me a full pity to get both of them? Do the Johtrio actually hate me or smth.?||

[winged fossil]

just got lodge n completed tonight, and then immediately realized i have 0 tech 4star candies right now lol. the ONE time im out of tech specifically.

oh well, not like theres a ongoing gauntlet rn

[lost bobcat]

Did you burned all candies on the other 4* by 5/5 them?

I felt only 4* supp candies are dropped a little less, but still got enough to 3/5 all new 4* units

[hearty quarry]

||In case I don’t get 1000 gems from 20th lodge pair tomorrow, is this top right deal good?||

[tardy fiber]

Guzzlord

[tardy fiber]

Orb gem bundle have one of the best value iirc, thats why DeNa timegated it so that we can only get it once every 20 days

[grim plover]

guzzlord & blacephalon

[tardy fiber]

Please, only 1 fave...not 2...im poor

[upbeat lotus]

this thread is for saving resources only, so you should ask this question in #poma-questions

and please spoiler all pulling talk here

[uneven pewter]

|| Is it sad i was more excited to pull Tina today off the daily? Than i was yesterday for any who saw my salt chat ||

[violet nebula]

Yus

[uneven pewter]

|| it took me all ten steps and a stupid amount of luck to get all 5 off the rocket banner. I am in straight hoarding mode. If they did it once they will do it for tabitha shelly and matt. ||

[winged fossil]

I did exactly that on lodge Serena lol. Aside from that I have ended up with a lot of lodge techs so

Lot of my lodge favs are techs

[winged fossil]

I basically 3/5+ everyone below five stars

[grim plover]

||I almost rolled in the rocket banner ||

||not getting the rocket you want from the ticket is painful||

[tardy fiber]

High score this reset, hope i can clear 180k...i dont want to EX non faves

[rare swan]

Yah, I don't like the idea of using resources on pairs I'm just going to bench

[tardy fiber]

I just gonna do this with 3 EX, way less than water HS but at least just gonna aim 180k this time

[hard wave]

I dont have the medal so I hope to get it in order to not have to worry abt it in the future I think I have 5 EXs? Ash, Sonia, Elesa, Marnie, and N

Idm upgrading to 5* bcz I plan to do that for all pairs eventually anyway, but EXs I only did for the latter 3 bcz of the holo foil and the former 2 bcz I use them quite alot

[fallen path]

I’m kinda the opposite, I EX a lot of units even if they have served me one purpose.

[vernal glade]

I low on 4* power ups

So I hope can get 180k

[hard wave]

I just had to upgrade mchu and base sophocles, tho I prob wont be using mchu

Water I still have crasher wake and marlon to upgrade but 23 water vs 16 electric so it wasnt a big deal compared to now

[hard wave]

I lack so

Im able to lvl 140 (lvl 150 if I want to) any pair and give them a LS and grid units (I just save alot of orbs, but I still have abt 20 to grid) but theme skill EX and candies I dont have much of (tho ig im saving candies rn, 4 star ones I need more of tho)

[fallen path]

Part of it is that I’m a veteran player now, so I used all those general tickets and regional tickets and have a lot of

[winged fossil]

same, although im prob gonna have to stop that for a while soon, down to like 65 raw and i do 5 15 usually

since each time i pull favs i usually get over a dozen+ on my way through a shaft and have exd most of the units id want to ex

[hard wave]

Fair, this month ive been able to get alot of tickets bcz 2 lodge pairs and all the tickets I saved

EXd 5 pairs this month and can do 2 more I think

[winged fossil]

im used to having over a hundred on me so 65 feels really low for me

[cunning swan]

i'm used to having 50 or lower and now I have over a hundred after spending regional tickets. feels weird

[fallen path]

i actually have over 200 because i had 2500 of those general 5 star tickets among the other region tickets that i've hoarded

so it's more...i just use them, it's a game, i just hoard the premium currency. the others i use a lot more freely lol

[winged fossil]

im still sitting on effectively over a dozen more powerups cause of regional tickets, cause i dont spend them if theres no 2/5 or lower units in the regions pool for me to expand

helps since i basically caught up on gen pool from almost exclusively the tickets, i barely had to pull this anni. feels weird having a month with targets that i actually went net positive on the same day the banner dropped on...

~~ im used to a shaft ~~

100% expecting a shaft next time i do pull considering i havent had one in a bit, i just have the gut feeling of this luck streak being too good to be true. which is helping me save, ironically enough.

||i think that gut feeling is the only reason why i havent pulled SSKris, along with the fact i dont really have much in terms of special water favs. all id have is nc serena and im still a while away from being able to pull her. so shes basically just a 2nd proton to me rn. ticket giving me proton basically removed any remaining temptation||

[crisp oracle]

Me at 290 of the

what the hell am I gonna use them on as I have no power up tickets

[hard wave]

Im used to spending them as I get them and now I have like 23 and 28 iirc

I have a list of units I want to EX, but im going to wait for now

[crisp oracle]

why do I feel like the gems are coming in slower than ever

I'm already done clearing through the Rosa event and I'm back at grinding training area

[winged fossil]

because they are, sub 30k on an anni month is cringe.

[latent salmon]

run up was

[crisp oracle]

||also waiting for datamine for either Palmer, NC Blue, or NC Red is harder with less gems and less new content||

||I might pick one if Halloween is a dud||

[winged fossil]

oh god, oct 21 drop for october is actually scaring me for how dry oct has chance of being this year.

[crisp oracle]

we're finally getting high score electric

too bad I don't give a flip about the medal and am just going after rewards

[winged fossil]

||if halloweens a dud and isnt a dead gem month then i might grab paulo last minute or something, but thats prob about it for me. the fact that im hesitating on whatd otherwise be a greater fav is really telling here||

[tardy fiber]

I might try to get my second master medal when its psychic HS, im swimming with psychic faves EX

[crisp oracle]

||same but with Palmer for me||

||or paulo||

NC Blue looks nice but do I really need him

plus i'd rather have Beef

[winged fossil]

||literally i promised two years ago that id pull ANY lycanroc without hesitation. and here we are, me HESITATING FOR A LYCANROC because its a new role.||

im just speechless that this is the timeline we're in, where an anni is a dry gem month relatively

the only saving grace is the number of free units we got this month

[crisp oracle]

I've had all the free units but Victor and my Rocket Admin

so it's been rather dry

[tardy fiber]

I dont mind new role, as i did wait a year sometimes to candy a pair...i will give DeNa one year chance to increase the amount of sprint and field coins

[winged fossil]

i got N, victor, ||Proton||, and naomi from this anni. which is pretty good compared to a standard time of the year.

[crisp oracle]

||I haven't pulled outside of SS Kris and Irida in a bit||

the next master fair will not be a shaft I know it

[latent salmon]

man i really need to go full gem zen after this fave jumpscare

[crisp oracle]

I've felt like it's been forever and a day since we got a new new event other than HS coming tomorrow

[winged fossil]

||ss lusamine, irida, summer n (+summer marnie bonus), nc red, nc blue is basically a summary of my recent pulls in the past few months. no regrets, got lucky that i didnt even finish gifts on either MF before i was done and lussa was generous, but summer n and irida were pities so it relatively balances out tbh||

i never even touch a banner anymore without a full pity in my inv

[tough oriole]

Yeah we really don’t have many stamina events this month
They should have added a villain event or two, but i understand that it was to let new players catch up with all the free Sync Pair events

[winged fossil]

getting anything before a hard pity is just a bonus to the gem count to me, i expect that pity to get anything.

[crisp oracle]

The problem with the game being rather idle and a lack of new stages to clear makes my mind linger on the game too long. With this comes an urge to pull

[latent salmon]

stamina rally + blissful bonanza this month would've been

[crisp oracle]

||NC Blue and Palmer look very attractive right now||

[winged fossil]

and this is why i think having more than one gacha at a time can be a good idea. having one that you dont give a crap about and just pull for dopameme on can help at times when it comes to saving on dead months imo. whether it be genshin, dislyte, or something else

just a game where you wouldnt have much favs on anyway basically for the secondary game

[crisp oracle]

Blissful Bonanza got stabbed

[latent salmon]

as long as you can have time for both of them, having a gacha you just pull on whenever you feel the urge is probably one of the best tactics ive used

just don't get too attached to the characters dear god biggest mistake of my life now i have to resist pulling for TWO gachas

[crisp oracle]

when was the last time we got one

[winged fossil]

yeah idk why they stopped doing bonanza

[crisp oracle]

unfortuately I'm not really invested into any other gacha franchise

what am I gonna do? just get log-in rewards everyday for genshin

[frosty junco]

||I have a rule of myseld to not summon till datamine, but i really want to get SC Steven asap from the select banner. Will October have another select banner thats potentially better?||

[latent salmon]

personally, i use crk cause it's generous-ish and the rates are shit so i can see the worst case happen to me

[winged fossil]

in terms of selects, i dont think we get them usually outside of annis and newyears.

someone can correct me if im wrong

[tough oriole]

There’s the seasonal tiered scams scouts

[frosty junco]

||i dont wanna spend more than i already spend ||

[winged fossil]

honestly im tempted to toss down 5$ (1$ 1k, and the 3k paid bundle login thing) to grab ||SC Zinnia|| just so i dont have to worry about a rerun of that ever, but idk, moneys a bit tight still rn, would need spending money within a few days...

[crisp oracle]

||also what happened to Lillie||

ngl it seems like they forgot about her

[latent salmon]

the lillie hyperfans in dena got fired

[tough oriole]

DeNA hire me please

[latent salmon]

dena please hire me i know what the people want (i do not know what the people want)

[winged fossil]

yeah, it feels like my trifecta went from milked to not really getting new units much anymore. N, Serena, Lillie.

[frosty junco]

Any prediction for whats coming for Halloween alt?

[winged fossil]

(ghost trainer) + spiritomb or something
N + Hisui Zoroark

[tough oriole]

We’ve gotten a ghost specialist every year now (acerola, morty, allister), so maybe…. Phoebe?

[winged fossil]

apparently its been ghost trainer + unova trainer every year

[frosty junco]

is it ghost everytime?

[winged fossil]

so thats my prediction

[torpid prawn]

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Hilbert (Fall 2020) & Mightyena
Iris (Fall 2022) & Naganadel
Caitlin (Fall 2021) & Sableye
Morty (Fall 2021) & Banette
Allister (Fall 2022) & Gourgeist

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[pure arrow]

||Halloween Phoebe|| let’s go!

[frosty junco]

ah nope

its not just ghost

[latent salmon]

||halloween shauntal|| is so real

not sure if i should spoiler that since its copium but just to be safe

[winged fossil]

spiritomb and coffagrigus or whatever its spelled are my 2 ghost mons to expect from the ghost trainer

[vernal glade]

||If next month hisui Zoroark then rip my savings for NC Unova.||

[winged fossil]

neither of which id care about

[tough oriole]

||I would love that and hate that at the same time since i love shauntal but want to save||

[crisp oracle]

good news, my rerun tierlist is thinner than ever

[latent salmon]

i know what the people want

less rats

[crisp oracle]

for obvious reasons, SC Diantha is first

[frosty junco]

do they ever release rats except peekachu?

[latent salmon]

3 chu is enough chu

[winged fossil]

i THINK this is my entire wishlist right now, unless i missed something major.

the only one running im prob holding off due to move level reasons

[latent salmon]

my wishlist is ||v!kris rerun ||

[frosty junco]

i dont think event units should be included?

as its free

[winged fossil]

i just include them as theyre the ones im missing

[latent salmon]

my favemax is forever tarnished because of VARIETY!!!

[winged fossil]

the fact that naomi reran actually gives hope for the missing events

[frosty junco]

naomi rerun because special occasion with Rosa tho

[crisp oracle]

my wishlist is ||more gems, Diantha, and maybe an Irida alt||

[frosty junco]

whats Rocket duo event about anyway?

[vernal glade]

My wishlist ||Is SS Hilda, SS Hilbert and SST Red, just need no N’s alts and I’m fine.||

[hard wave]

Bcz we have 2.5 weeks left and like 9k gems left

[winged fossil]

either way the fact its down to 4 gacha units is pretty good IMO

[latent salmon]

if ||eevee variety|| never returns...

[frosty junco]

My wishlist ||Collect em all!||

[crisp oracle]

good luck on your gems

that is hard

also gem check

[latent salmon]

i only have one wishlist unit

which is impossible because she probably won't rerun

[crisp oracle]

how many gems do we have

[latent salmon]

WHAT ARE YOU THE GEM POLICE??? (im broke)

[winged fossil]

it was a crossover for one of the pokemon movies, think the one with zarude...? or was it a different one idk which one

[frosty junco]

||seeing gems make me tempted.....||

thats kinda like ash chance of ever rerunning...

[crisp oracle]

no chance in hell Ash is rerunning tbh

[hard wave]

I hope im able to || go for zerena || but idk

[crisp oracle]

Not saying it's impossible but likely no

[winged fossil]

yeah lol, the rocket duo is pure hopium for me

[latent salmon]

ash rerun copers can join the (insert variety banner) rerun copers

[hard wave]

If I can || get her early ill do pull for tina if oct is a skip ||

[vernal glade]

Im already at the stage of waiting for October, October known to have dark and ghost types.

[latent salmon]

i only have three character faves and one pokemon fave that dena has forgotten about, these last two months feel targeted (two faves in a row)

[frosty junco]

Zerena have no relations to any event yet they rerun her this anni
Maybe SST rerun next month?

[winged fossil]

||i think my next support candy or two is for proton. ||
https://tenor.com/view/marge-i-just-think-theyre-neat-the-simpsons-neat-potato-gif-8549864 this gif = basically how i feel about that unit i spoilered.

[hard wave]

Monthly mf

It’d be weird to skip straight to 3rd anni and not rerun her

[frosty junco]

i mean, past monthly mf have related with events. Like Archie have role in summer event

maxie just follows

[winged fossil]

wow i just looked at the theme skills of a variety unit
even the THEME SKILLS get shafted on these.

[latent salmon]

mmmm yes its all coming together ||i may be the #1 proton fan but remember to thonk before using your candies||

[winged fossil]

3 themes when the average unit has like 5

[hard wave]

Oh right, lusamine right before alola VA, SSRC right before hisui, archie for water HS, maxie after, johtrio for anni run up

October is the 10th anni for XY tho

[frosty junco]

iirc it was hgss too?

[winged fossil]

new serena alt bait maybe? /s

[frosty junco]

this month i mean

[hard wave]

Idk

[frosty junco]

oh yeah it was september 12th

[hard wave]

Also HGSS was 2009 iirc

[frosty junco]

hgss anniv

[latent salmon]

oh god i missed the hgss anni

[hard wave]

Oh that could be why then

Bcz lyra was 16th

[winged fossil]

yeah, i think before candying. ive been caught up on support and tech for a decent while now. strikes the only candy type im falling behind on enough to catch up for.

[latent salmon]

im a fake fan guys first ||4/5 SSilver|| and now this

[winged fossil]

techs the main role im ahead of schedule on out of the old trio

although id be behind if i caught up on my rerun list

[hard wave]

I have 3 units I want to candy im just waiting to get them || one is SS Serena, I had 3 but used 2 on NC Red and I dont want to use general candies for strikers, but im close to my 2nd one, tech I have 3 and support im close to 3 or alr hv 3 im not sure ||

[latent salmon]

in terms of faves, i need one tech candy and three support candy

no strike though...

goddamn i dont have a limited strike fave

[winged fossil]

if they didnt release the new roles i woulda used 2 gold as if they were striker candies. but now the two candies are benched till i pull a fav of the new roles, which prob wont be for a while

so the candies are just... there.

[hard wave]

For new units id rlly like a poison rock and physical bug striker

[winged fossil]

technically i only have 1 gold candy rn but, 19/20 on 2nd candy so im basically guaranteed to form that this month either from HS or BP

[latent salmon]

having only three fave dena remembered is nice and all for resources, but im also missing a lot of coverage in terms of types

[winged fossil]

ive got this tendency to just ex all my limited gachas for the hell of it so... the only two i havent are two that i got during anni 2 on accident

i might ex summer steven sometime, but i think summer lyras just gonna be eternally that one never EXd

[latent salmon]

is lyrapuff level one though

[winged fossil]

135 cause ive used her as gauntlet fodder

my only units not 135+

[latent salmon]

we found it folks

we found the raised lyrapuff

[uneven pewter]

I have quite a few masters fairs not exd yet

Well i say a few

And really it’s just Lillie

[winged fossil]

tbh still find it a bit cringe that i even own a variety now, but at least the kits good enough for me to not be upset with it as a free unit.

[tardy fiber]

I finally level 140 all non faves from 135 as i already level 150 all 70 faves, i even have extra 13 certs for remaining fave this month

[latent salmon]

i have three variety now and one of them ||(gioDON'T)|| made me want to throw my phone into a pit of rocks

[winged fossil]

the only case id touch one of those banners is if a top fav gets stuck with it, and even then itd better be a good kit to even lock them behind that outfitless variety stuf. dont get why they cant just make these variety pairs a PF instead

is it really that hard for them to give these alt varieties an outfit? and why are whatd otherwise be PFs even under the variety umbrella?

[latent salmon]

||rocket exec|| should've been spotlight but dena had a little brain flop

[winged fossil]

yeah that banner is especially insulting, 0.4% on launch

[tardy fiber]

I agree with why not making them pokefairs, spotlight is easy...people can just wait and skip thus not making em money, but no reason for not making em pokefairs

Even emma can be pokefair

[latent salmon]

seeing the .4 physically hurt

[tardy fiber]

At least pokefair select does exist

[unkempt vortex]

The fact emma got pf and not admins is crazy

[latent salmon]

i was so hyped then 0.4

[tardy fiber]

Variety select is still hopium

[winged fossil]

CElesa is proof that even PFs can have a MF-like rerun schedule if they want to fomo it.

[unkempt vortex]

This

Like literally why not just make them pf

And then rarely rerun them

[tardy fiber]

Well even if they fomo it, the paid way exists through PF select...just why variety

Or they do that to skimp on making new EX color and unique sync move animation

[unkempt vortex]

Variety is just making their value worse than if they were pf

[tardy fiber]

Oh wait they got new ex color

[unkempt vortex]

They’ve been skipping making unique syncs for months if not years

[latent salmon]

variety was an excuse to make their kits shitty

[tardy fiber]

Just unique sync

[unkempt vortex]

We still get pairs with some sort of impact

[tardy fiber]

Well SC and seasonal are all impact and beam nowadays oh and max move pairs

[winged fossil]

the only difference that i can see is the fact that these varieties dont have 5/5 grids, and even then i dont think anyone would really complain about a new PF without 4/5 and 5/5 tiles that much.

[latent salmon]

||personally cannot complain too much. shitty units better than no units, i guess. been waiting years though... would've been nice if the pay off was better.||

[unkempt vortex]

Cheren be like

[tardy fiber]

Kinda true, well if you really like the unit...you already prepared for it by allocating pity amounts of gems before they released

[unkempt vortex]

Also mc chu

[tardy fiber]

Still better than no unit at all

[latent salmon]

shitty banner though. ||used to want to go for all the execs, but im happy with just archer and proton. must prepare in case they jumpscare me with grimsley or lisia alt||

if they were separate, we could BOTH complain about more banners AND make it easier to pull for just one

[winged fossil]

there is one thing that im HOPING from anni becomes a norm though
those rental battles specifically. i bet theyre gonna get some extra sales the next time some of the units that were featured in there rerun, and it helps people on the edge over a kit see the kit in action if theyre confused about something with it.

[tardy fiber]

I thought only sskorrina and Sclillie are limited

Its mostly cheren fights

[winged fossil]

either way the concepts there with those two

[tardy fiber]

Rental battles are great its probably geared to new players that just joined this anniv and doesn't have many pairs built yet, so just use the units they give for the fight

[winged fossil]

especially hope we see that next time they add a new mechanic, seems like a really good format for teaching a new mechanic.

[tardy fiber]

They did teach us how to use max move before during ssleon event

They skipped for buddy move because not all pairs have same condition to activate it

[winged fossil]

did they teach in gameplay form? or just in popup or story or something? i think i missed when gmax got introduced

[tardy fiber]

Gameplay, they allow us to use ssleon eternatus

[winged fossil]

huh. interesting. i hadnt joined till 2nd anni so

i think the ssleon banner was still up when i joined, but i dont recall an event being there when i joined for it. just the hop one.

[tardy fiber]

They probably will do the same if terrastalize happen, as it might not need complicated conditions like buddy move that need to have rebuff or use moves 5 times, or can only be activated after sync

[winged fossil]

i am seriously curious about how theyll do terra. im assuming itll be tied to the pair itself for the terra type though, but theoretically it could differ a bit on how dena wants to use the gimmick when it inevitably comes someday

[tardy fiber]

Its probably button at the bottom like max move and just you change type and got extra tera type damage bonus for whole fight

[winged fossil]

they havent skipped a gimmick entirely other than Z moves literally just being sync moves, which is fair since they almost were same as sync moves in the alola games.

since z moves were just one big move and nothing extra to it and such

[tardy fiber]

At least tera pairs will be good to invest as they can perform well for their base type coverage and also tera type, so like 1 pair for 2 different weaknesses contents

1 pity spent for 2 content clearers

Kinda nice

[winged fossil]

yeah, im still a bit surprised nemona didnt bring it herslef tbh

cause if im not mistaken nemona does use the gimmick when you fight her in the real game

[tardy fiber]

Probably be attached to gym leaders ace pokemon that change type like brassius sudowoodo

Iirc mismagius electric for iono or something

[winged fossil]

mismagius was one? lmao. i think we already have what, 2? 3? mismagius pairs in this game so i def dont see them introducing it through that, personally.

i think the intro pair basically has to be a new mon to poma

[tardy fiber]

Well we still dont have ghost mismagius that change to electric

So kinda unique

[winged fossil]

yeah but i feel like thats less likely than a mon that has no repeats or no pairs at all yet.

at least for the first pair with the gimmick

[tardy fiber]

Katy got tera bug ursaring

Ursaring that can cover bug moves

[hard wave]

Im trying to do the same

[rare swan]

I have about 350 and I still don't want to EX randoms for the Elec HS lmao

(I already have the medal though, definitely understand those who need to EX to earn it)

[hard wave]

Only have cynthia ss cynthia and lysandre left (idk if ill be EXing rachel sawyer || and if I pull her, tina||)

My EX list is those 3, base lillie, and base acerola for holo foils as well as any new limiteds I get ofc

[tardy fiber]

I have lack because i did make some pairs 5* 20/20 just not EXing then

Only have 68 left

I will EX some non faves that i already 5* 20/20 if DeNa allows us to put favourite icon on MC

[winged fossil]

I’ve got 11k of the top two exp books but not anywhere enough upgrade mats to use them lol. Might have to do some mat grinding next rally

Also I think I’m stockpiling for a bit cause I unironically wanna 4 or 5 star a sprigatito because f2p grassy

[tardy fiber]

I always 4* shiny eggmons, not yet 5* though, as there's still 10 non eggmon pairs that are not yet 5*

[winged fossil]

ive literally never raised an egg past 3* before, but supp sprig being something actually uniquely useful makes me want to

[vernal glade]

I only bring shinies to 3*

[broken mulch]

Same, shinies to 4 stars and keep the rest at 1

I don’t nearly get enough silver powerups to raise them to 5 lol

[tawny cedar]

I am resisting the urge to 3/5 irida

I must see whether i should 3/5 farty or not

[tardy jolt]

You’ll end up having at least hundreds of spare 3* PU with time, even after having raised all the gem pool units to 4*. I’d say upgrade the useful eggmons

[tardy fiber]

Striker eggmon stats are kinda neat, 380 spatk atk if level 150 5* 20/20, well bluecanine only have 248 spatk

But i will invest on eggmon only after i complete making all non eggmon pairs 5*

10 pairs left

[lost bobcat]

no multipliers

Also all eggmons have the same stats if equally invested (for role)
The only one who can do actual dmg is str gyarados

So as usual, the best ones to raise are the supp/tech

[vestal leaf]

Tech gyara too

Striker raichu isn't completely shit either damage wise imo

It's bad but not unusable

[upbeat lotus]

Everyone forgot Perrserker

[vestal leaf]

Right

He's recent to be fair

He also doesn't synergize all too well with the 1 steel zoner we have

[winged fossil]

I’ve had all 3stars upgraded for a long while. I usually have traded for

[vestal leaf]

100mil celebration

[crisp oracle]

The gems tho

Wow

[tardy fiber]

Yep this is for gyarados thats why i pick bluecanine comparison because both are hyper beam users

[winged fossil]

got my 2nd gold finally dealt with

and now im waiting for datamine basically... im letting a certain unit go rather than bothering cause i know gems are gonna be too tight to make it reasonable to pity pre-datamine... and i refuse to yolo cause thats just wasted for almost no chance at something.

honestly wont even put it past dena if next months sub 20k, i definitely have no expectation for reasonable gem count when anni was only 27k

[coarse lynx]

I'm currently at 3k gems after pity red should I keep saving for blue or cope and keep saving

[lost bobcat]

Save, you risk to get nothing

[tardy fiber]

7990 gems left this datamine , well at least there's the twitter rally rewards at 29th that are not included in current gem calc

[frosty junco]

Hope dena dont give 20k gem bs just because this anni is low

[dark cliff]

Victor is upsetting cause he’s not a tank

But I suppose he’s meant to be a nuke

[vestal leaf]

He's a sync and max nuker

His DPS isn't terrible either for ghost standards too

[unkempt vortex]

updated list is this how it works?

[ashen thunder]

You can consider low priority as free selector or smth

[unkempt vortex]

this is almost a completely different list than last time

and uh cross celesa off too

[maiden kayak]

low pirority?

might as well dont put

[unkempt vortex]

theyre like hard maybe

well alder more likely since i might as well unova max atp

depends on how poor i am

which is always

[ashen thunder]

I just put my candy list in rerun priority as well since I tend to roll for dupes

More candies where dena

1 per 1.5 month suks

[unkempt vortex]

never

[upbeat lotus]

Just buy the coin bundle every 20 days

[ashen thunder]

But I am poor

[upbeat lotus]

Hi poor

[unkempt vortex]

they have more of an excuse to just give cake coin rewards now

at least the option instead of regular coins

just stop being poor

[sullen hedge]

i got all the champs i want now i just need to save for SSA cynthia that's the last one i need

[versed flame]

decided to update my list too - crossed off ingo (🎉), got rid of celesa since i don't feel that i need her anymore, demoted ss hilbert
ash is the only rerun that ranks equal or above new units

[tardy fiber]

Annisteven in free selector tier

Oh right, unovaVA hasn't yet rerun

Hope you have gems if it happens next month

[versed flame]

I'm on 100k+ still which is quite solid! so if they don't drop anything new i like i can probably go for at least one

[tawny cedar]

Where are yall making these tierlists?

[upbeat lotus]

the tierlist maker by Sages, its pinned in #1142434215208702073

[tardy jolt]

The “if I have gems” tier should be crossed out or upgraded if they are actual wants, so that you include the gems you’ll spend for them in the benchmark you are aiming for.

Consider that for all the pairs that you want we are looking at at least 293k gems, not including the Hisui pairs and making a conservative estimation of only 2 Unova NCs.

I’d say, write down the Hisui characters that you actually want and evaluate which ones of the reruns you absolutely can’t part with.

Gem counts will not be very generous in the future, be prepared to trim the fat when it comes to spending and concentrate on what for you are high value units

[hard wave]

My rerun list;
Acquired: || Anni Lillie, Anni May, LuSSa, SS Morty, SS Ethan ||
Removed: || Red, Ingo, SSAC ||
There’s been many modifications to my list

[lean mango]

Hasn't been much update to my list other than a certain someone is off the list

[hard wave]

Ive had a total of…. 35 units I wanted to pull for atleast not all at the same time tho, but I eliminated most of them so now my list is much, much shorter || and luckily I was able to grab 6 reruns this yr so far ||

[tough oriole]

What does spotlight only mean

[unkempt vortex]

It means never

[fallen path]

variety scout

[tough oriole]

Can’t wait for variety atticus

[deft glen]

Variety Yancy

|| I might pull ||

[unkempt vortex]

Next year no more spotlight all variety

[sturdy flower]

||I will pull||

[pure arrow]

Variety Shelly & Matt are much more likely than I’d prefer
||still might pull||

[flat schooner]

From today until <t:1695708001:d> you can get up to 6120 .
For more information check /events and /banners!

[flint turret]

Damn i'll have to use some october gems
I hope anything i care about comes out that month

[drifting oriole]

is this section valid on big event like Anni pairs? I wonder

[lean mango]

Means I'll only get their base

[rare swan]

wdym?

it applies to all pairs

[uneven pewter]

Surprised about removing || Ingo, he’s still a fantastic support. ||

[worldly knot]

Ugh i will pull palmer next, hopefully can save up on october or else my gems cant handle next mf rip

[hard wave]

Yeah, coping for him to be on a free select but idk if he will be || it would be nice to get him tho as there’s no other sandstorm support lodgehan doesnt count ||

[tardy fiber]

Hoping for a free select again, please make there's steven this time...i want him for lodge

[sturdy flower]

Halloween Erika and her lodge

[pure arrow]

Now that you mention it, I’m surprised it took so long for Kanto to get a second lodge character after Blue

Another F2P pair for Lodge would be really nice

[upbeat lotus]

they teased Gardenia last year

[pure arrow]

Fall Gardenia’ll have to be a skip for me, but I do hope she has a decently high profit so that she can get some more recognition later on

Plus she can serve as a break from the Cynthia + Dawn near-duopoly in terms of alt costumes

[sturdy flower]

i need to skip because there's a couple PLA and SV characters I'd want base versions of

but if they get kits I don't like I will skip

[deft glen]

Iono

[uneven pewter]

Well

[sturdy flower]

and Arezu

[uneven pewter]

I am banking enough for two pities worth at least

[vernal glade]

I know im skipping next month. ||Unless they give me a N or hisui zoroark.||

[uneven pewter]

Especially after this anniversary stuffed me

[deft glen]

yeah, both

[sturdy flower]

and there are bound to be MFs this year still

[uneven pewter]

Watch they really screw with me and release the galactic admins next month

-.-

[deft glen]

I need next month to be total skip

this Anni bled me dry

[sturdy flower]

same, and not 15k gems or something funny like that

[pure arrow]

I’m probably skipping next month unless they give ||Hoenn alts, Archie or Flannery maybe||

[sturdy flower]

you dont need to spoiler nonexistent units btw

that motivates you to save

[frosty junco]

Guys gimme power to not frckin waste my gems on first hour of palmer banner

[upbeat lotus]

if you pull him you have to EX Cheren

[frosty junco]

Great idea

Turns out i have so little unit i actually want

[tardy fiber]

So you ||gonna pull him on the second hour? ||

Annisteven in must pull tier

Flying gear will boost him

[frosty junco]

Lets hope he dont take too long to rerun

[tardy fiber]

Well he already rerun on run up iirc

[frosty junco]

Oh thats gonna make him take longer to get then

No matter since im poor rn tho

[tardy fiber]

I just glad to see there's someone else that like him, hope he get a good cake role

Support cake role will be nice, will make syncing with him much better

[frosty junco]

Yeah, or grid expansion (not 5/5)

I mainly like N and Steven because of their drip so kit doesnt really matter here

The maybe part is unit that i like because of their kits

[hard wave]

Doubt we’d get one rn, prob anni gloria, steven, kanto va pairs, or submas would be nice

[tardy fiber]

Nah not now, probably as paid select on NY or free select on run up to half anni or half anni

[hard wave]

Hmm… idt they’ll include any older pairs in selects

Oh wait SS Cynthia was in the last NY select, ig she could still show up

[winged fossil]

on which runup are we talking?

cause the most recent flying MF rerun was SSEthan of johtrio

which, just ended a reset or two ago

[hard wave]

2nd anni trio reran at the end of december 2022

[tawny cedar]

Damn

That's a lot less reruns than j thought

Abandoning johtomax really did take off a lot of burden

Just 4 reruns to get if varieties never come back

[tardy fiber]

My account is not clean with 0 varieties because of free rocket admin

[tawny cedar]

I'm actually shocked my fave rerun count is so low

During johtomax it was at a constant 10-12

[clever oyster]

36k gems, almost enough for a pity

I need help to resist pulling until the datamine 😦

[oak crest]

Wish we can sell them for candy coin

[winged fossil]

almost everyones staying till datamine. thats what i can say off top of my head.

[oak crest]

Will sell useless Archer for sure

[winged fossil]

especially now that johtrio left

[winged fossil]

id probably give up my lyrapuff for that, lol. but eh, atleast the one i got from ticket has a use, got proton personally.

personally my top reason to wait is the possibility of at least one october fav in a likely desert-dry month. even if its a rerun fav, i think id prefer that over the remaining banners. im only ||grabbing paulo|| if octobers dead pairwise, and even then i might still skip it, depending on just how dry october count is

cause unless im grabbing favs for why im going low on gems, i think id prefer saving for winter NC/etc shenanigans.

[clever oyster]

Well, yeah, but I still need help to resist impulse pulling until the datamine

[tardy fiber]

I got archer, i will be satisfied to exchange him with 2 sprint candies

[rare swan]

[tardy fiber]

Which rocket admin you got Tai?

[rare swan]

||All of them ||

For the ticket, I got Archer

which is who I wanted, so

lucky me

[tardy fiber]

Archer gang

🤝

[rare swan]

always good to get the one with the unobtainable candy

[tardy fiber]

Gio it is then, we dont even have any field move coins yet

We already have 2 sprints

0 field

[rare swan]

yeah it's a real shame the BP rewards weren't updated with the new coins

[tardy fiber]

Even drinks reward are still not updated, see palmer event shop, its still 3 role drinks instead of 5

[winged fossil]

2 sprints?

Woops forgot to turn off ping

How I have three if you only counted for two

[tardy fiber]

Oh is it three? I forgot where we got that one

[winged fossil]

Dunno

[tardy fiber]

Because nemona event gives 3

Ooos 2

Poma day will give 1 later

[winged fossil]

Best guess is one of the event shops that I mindlessly clicked buy on the coins in

[tardy fiber]

Oh i got 3 as well

[winged fossil]

Man it feels weird as shit to have gone from struggling on tech candy back when I started to struggling on strike tho.

[tardy fiber]

Man, if next month has at least 10 tech coins, i can form 3 move candies next month

I also got extra tech candy, all of my tech faves already 3/5

53,440 gems now, nice i guess to bring to next month

[winged fossil]

I low key am tempted to full max or at least 4/5 my flygon cause I don’t really care for the remaining dupes of the rest of these that much

[tardy fiber]

6400 gems left in datamine

[rare swan]

does he have a 5/5 grid? not really worth if he doesn't

[clever oyster]

1 Sprint Candy Coin, take it or leave it

[tardy fiber]

He and may have 5/5

[winged fossil]

Yeah flygon does

[rare swan]

then that could definitely be worth, especially if a fave

[tardy fiber]

A coin?

[winged fossil]

Disarm 9 iirc is at 4/5

Which is really fucking tempting

5/5 would prob be for max countdown for me if I were to grab full max

[tardy fiber]

I just put 3/5 faves as my end goal, 4/5 and 5/5 are reserved for free select or getting the pair randomly during select scout multi

[winged fossil]

And maybe drought extension for silver teams

[tardy fiber]

[winged fossil]

I think if I form another candy or two for tech without seeing more tech favs I might give him the 4/5 and call it there. Cause disarm seems like the tile id use the most out of the extended grid

Trying to keep at least two in the box for when I inevitably grab nc Serena even tho she’s a while out prob

But with dena throwing release order out window with johtrio and ||Zerena|| order I am not gonna be surprised if nc Serena takes ash’s spot in the order due to anime stuff

[tardy fiber]

Ncserena rerun will be interesting to see, well if she reruns with her event, she will appear with calem.

Still no NC event rerun yet

[clever oyster]

NC Serena is gonna be a skip for me

Just like NC Calem

[tardy fiber]

Same

[broken mulch]

Already got them so skip haha

[clever oyster]

meanwhile, I just don't like Gen 6

sure, Greninja is neat and all, but

I don't care enough for Serena or Calem to pull for Greninjas

now if it would have been Ash & Greninja, now THAT would have been ||an instant pull|| for me

[timber wren]

you didn’t even ping me for this

[rare swan]

[timber wren]

5/5 is obviously reserved for big faves but i use max countdown on every grid for him, and drought alert sees a lot of use too. i haven’t used disarm at all but maybe i just haven’t been looking for that proper team comp to abuse it

[rare swan]

i admittedly completely forgot those two got grids (those two, the two 2022 half-anni units, the only two units that were half-anni units in 2022,)

[clever oyster]

Palentine's Elesa is a big fave of mine + I really wanna get her 5/5 Lodge image

[oak crest]

i hate Archer, would sell him for coins if there is an option

[upbeat lotus]

[clever oyster]

monkey's paw wish: you can sell Archer for one coin

one silver coin, that is

[oak crest]

there aint no silver coin currency in this game tho

[clever oyster]

there is, though?

[oak crest]

is there?

[clever oyster]

yeah

the one that is basically in-universe money

not gems

[oak crest]

i would still sell him

at least the coins can be used to enhance equipment

[timber wren]

kuzco’s poison

somehow skyla didn’t get an expansion tho

[rare swan]

the poison for kuzco

poor skyla

[oak crest]

but that means she will potentially rerun again in the future when she gets it

[rare swan]

did unova-dev piss someone off like fr

[oak crest]

why do I feel like Bede keeps rerunning tho

[upbeat lotus]

he and his event have been rerun twice this year

[oak crest]

[upbeat lotus]

someone in DeNA doesnt want to include him in selects

[oak crest]

Bede must have bribed Dena

to rerun so many times

[rare swan]

[grim plover]

Well, where's datamine

[vestal leaf]

10 days or so

[versed flame]

advice taken! removed lucas and ss diantha. i'm thinking with the bottom tier reruns i would get only one of them if they all reran in a close timeframe (barring exceptional luck), and also wait for datamine
it's still technically 293k, but i dunno, some things like ash rerunning and warden ingo are a very very long shot that might never happen
who knows though

[sturdy flower]

the 3rd tier looks perfect for selects if you spend some $$$

[uneven pewter]

Realistically lear is one i would make peace with a $4 daily bundle

He is obnoxiously rare to rerun

Since his last free banner was last anniversary

Hilda and hilbert have a higher likelihood of running

As for ashchu

Well

Best of luck

I have doubts he will ever rerun

Same with Jessie and James

[latent salmon]

i tried to sort my priorities for reruns and... four pairs feel like too many. might ||chop eusine and morty off the wishlist if i get jumpscared by a fave getting a new pair||

[uneven pewter]

Well

Ny lisia is on the current selector

[latent salmon]

at least top tier will probably NEVER rerun

[uneven pewter]

Eusine and morty seem like pretty likely to rerun

Might be waiting till golden week for ss morty though

[latent salmon]

im waiting if there's an f2p rerun. if none, i'm prolly getting her next select she shows up in

[uneven pewter]

Can’t speak about variety since none of them have rerun

[uneven pewter]

Seasonals are surprisingly predictable

There’s always a mega rerun banner

But the rates are straight dook

So always expect to pity

So she “will” rerun this upcoming January

[latent salmon]

next jan i should have a pity or two... praying to god its two

[uneven pewter]

Honestly at the rate were going i am wondering

December is usually generous

As is january

[tardy fiber]

New year fair selects on January but its 5k paid each

[uneven pewter]

Woof

[latent salmon]

i should probably be able to secure ||ny lisia|| but ill just have to wait til 5th anni and pray she pops up in a select if i cant meet my gem goal

[uneven pewter]

It better be a pair I actually want

To do a 5k banner of bronze and silver tickets

[tardy fiber]

Well i grabbed Raihan before this, not a fave i want but lodge milestones and lodge raihan is kinda neat

[latent salmon]

im a lil scared that ||eusine and ss morty|| might rerun around the same time. thats gonna be hellish for my gem count AND my sanity

[tardy fiber]

Yep its always random, like annimay rerun with ssbrendan before this iirc

[latent salmon]

i guess my wishlist for reruns is kinda safe. especially the top tier

[tardy fiber]

Yep kinda hard, i can see them doing eeveelutions variety again, but now with Umbreon and Espeon instead...gotta keep the Variety FOMO train going

[sturdy flower]

they better not make the first Espeon a Variety Red

instead of an actual cool alt

remove Red's hat for once pls

i want to see his balding spots

[tardy fiber]

Well first Jolteon and Flareon are variety

[deft glen]

DeNa: So people now want Variety Red and Espeon?
Noted

[sand crown]

||Palmer is in the bag, and leaving anni month with almost one pity intact after all targets obtained is miraculous. Saving works, and relieved to be saving again||

[vernal glade]

||After pulling for the NC Kantrios, I am predicting to make it to 150k by the end of this month.||

[old thorn]

will the team rocket leaders join the common offering list of guys that you can roll for, after their banner goes down?

[unkempt vortex]

Variety is just another flavor of saying limited

[old thorn]

[sand crown]

We can't add villains to the 5* general pool. Gotta keep Grimsley, Grimsley and Grimsley happy /s

[sturdy plank]

the seasonal selects have been gone since the 7th though

[junior trout]

facts

[unique ivy]

I wanna use the 2.1k gems but I need to save for ten pull

[hard wave]

Idk if this is relevant

Besides him, I only have 2/5 courtney and no olympia/drasna for below 3/5 spotlights

[rustic heron]

[junior trout]

i actually think they should add another grimsley to gen pool /hj

[sand crown]

DeNA: Noted. We will release Grimsley (Alt) in a Variety Scout

[uneven pewter]

Well I wasn’t paying attention to them as you can see xD

I have all the ones i was after

[uneven pewter]

[tough oriole]

Ooh pretty number

[latent salmon]

ooooo pretty number

[rigid oar]

|||I am tempted to spend my pain gems on dailies but there are like 6 good banners rn is it worth spending 600 per day since that is a lot of paid gems|||

[gloomy holly]

Spoiler please

[rigid oar]

spoiler ?

just talking about this month

[tardy fiber]

Well talking about spending on a saving group

Better talk about it in #poma-lounge

[gloomy holly]

You always spoiler things about pulling when it comes to this channel

[rigid oar]

oh

[tardy fiber]

||do like this||

[crisp oracle]

@rigid oar here are the spoiler guidelines

[rigid oar]

i just want to know if i should save it

[tardy fiber]

Then you should ask #poma-questions

[rigid oar]

so what is the purpose of this thread

[crisp oracle]

||TBH I never found paid dailies to be efficient usage of gems, especially if you are doing six of them a day||

[tardy fiber]

Support groupp for people trying to save gems and other resources

Its resource saving, not resource spending

[crisp oracle]

I think you can ask what is the most efficient usage of paid gems though

||which is definitely not paid dailies||

[crisp grotto]

Yeah, this is specifically for saving just be careful with that one

[rigid oar]

||I saw some people get ncred with dailies so was just tempted ||

[gloomy holly]

There we go now

[gloomy holly]

Well, just focus on your favorites for now

[tardy fiber]

||i will be more tempted to do dailies if each daily discount single gives 3 pity points instead of 1|| but DeNa didn't do that so i skipped it unless to fill 399/400 pity point

[crisp oracle]

That luck is rare, their luck does not spread to you. Just focus on who you want if you are going to do dailies. Personally I recommending saving paid gems for select scouts

[gloomy holly]

#1010275375730925638 message

[tardy fiber]

Those that didn't get him wont post at #gacha-and-flex ...they did at #salt-channel

[gloomy holly]

||Me getting NC Blue from the dailies with only 2 multis is one of the best things that happened to me in this game||

[tardy fiber]

I only visit gacha flex when i have something to flex for and then post and leave, staying there long is full of temptations

[crisp oracle]

||Ive only posted in Gacha and Flex once when I needed to post my double SS Diantha multi, other than that my luck hasn’t been too stellar||

If you’re struggling with temptation I suggest muting #gacha-and-flex

[rigid oar]

||thats true I think I will just do one per day now wont be too bad ig || thx ppl

[rigid oar]

what if I love them all

[crisp oracle]

1 per day still adds up just remember

[gloomy holly]

||My anniversary luck in another game I played has been treating me very well||

[rigid oar]

except leaf maybe

[tardy fiber]

Like ||many times it got me tempted to pull rocket banner, just to get those 4 admins but 0.4% rate snapped me back to reality||

[gloomy holly]

||I got tempted on Summer Liza, but failed to get her, but I didn't complain because I knew the consequences||

[rigid oar]

||I was tempted on rocket too|but I dont like giovanni that much so that saved me ||

[tardy fiber]

Yep every journey helps to be better in the future endeavours

[rigid oar]

||Is select banner always that good ? Like electric one is an easy skip for me ||

[gloomy holly]

My best record on saving up was during the Kalos arc, where I had over 50k gems, ever since then, I hadn't broken that record yet

[rigid oar]

woah 50k

[vestal leaf]

Limiteds selects can be huge

[gloomy holly]

There are people who have over hundreds of thousands of gems saved

[vestal leaf]

3k for a guaranteed fair that could rerun 1 time in the next year is definitely useful

[gloomy holly]

I think there's even someone who has saved 1 million gems

Who was it?

[vestal leaf]

It's better than 30 dailies on different banners imi

Imo

[vestal leaf]

Chest is probably at 1,150mil

[gloomy holly]

Hmmmmm ok

[rigid oar]

I am finding even saving 36k hard lmao

although just 6k off now

[gloomy holly]

Well, patience is always the key

[vestal leaf]

^

Restraint is key

[tardy fiber]

Oh right, the twitter rally gems on 29th right? So its on Friday, hope datamine happens on 25 or 26...new stuffs probably already happening on 29th, i can imagine them releasing a trailer saying there's free 3k gems that are actually from twitter rocket rally in the video

[rigid oar]

true it is a matter of gambling and saving at that point

[vestal leaf]

Every daily and every multi done on a banner you're not 1000% on board with is wasted

[gloomy holly]

Let's see if my anni luck will retain

||5 multis + 2 singles on Red and 2 multis + 1 daily on Blue= 21700 gems overall for both of them||

[vestal leaf]

I always expect to pity, every time I can dodge a pity it's all gems I save up for next fave

[gloomy holly]

I need to start making a list of favorites

[tardy fiber]

I did the same, if truly needed like a month full of faves with not many pities...i will have to skip the ones that are most likely to rerun in the future or appears in paid select

[rigid oar]

so not rolling till have that much secured ?

[gloomy holly]

Yes

[vestal leaf]

Definitely

[crisp oracle]

Saving till you have a pity ensures that you will get that unit

[vestal leaf]

If you get it early, you save the extra for the next

[tardy fiber]

Well if you can only form 18k during the banner duration, and you spend all of them and still didn't get the pair...you got 0 featured pair and lose 18k gems simple

Or you can be better and save for 36.6k, try other banner...if you lucky and got the pair early, save the gem balance to form a pity back and try in another banner...so you guarantee yourself a pair with each attempt

[vestal leaf]

Consider that this game gives around 240-260k every year AT WORST

And you realize you can guarantee around 6-7 banners every year

Even if you get the worst luck

At minimum

[gloomy holly]

Expect the worst every time you're going to pull

[vestal leaf]

That might seem lowish, but considering how this game is offmeta, it's really nice

[gloomy holly]

I mean, it just lowers the expectations enough so that you won't have to complain about getting the first copy of that unit from pity

[vestal leaf]

Yeah

[tardy fiber]

Story + BP pairs already give free 46 pairs, still not yet include 3* and 4* general pool and event pairs...oh also free 1 5* region ticket pull with every VA, and free 1 sskantrio

Hard to say, but poma is one of the most kind gacha game i ever played

Oh legendary adventures too so +8 pairs

[vestal leaf]

Also getting 2 units at half from pity, which is likely over a year of scouting, means one more unit per year

[tardy fiber]

Still hoping DeNa will improve the newbie experience by giving free sync orbs enough to grid 3-5 pairs

[gloomy holly]

MF select ticket when?

[oak crest]

[gloomy holly]

Honestly, that'd be too good to be true

[tardy fiber]

I wont even mad if they also got 2 3* move candies for each role

[gloomy holly]

So scratch that idea

[oak crest]

MF select... we dont even have the paid gems version

to even cope for a select ticket

[vestal leaf]

Considering I'm missing only 2 that would be too huge

Actually nvm, 4

[tardy fiber]

It might can happen, but i doubt DeNa will make it cheap...i can see it costs like 15-20k paid gems

[oak crest]

ngl im only missing those that I skipped intentionally

[vestal leaf]

Same

[oak crest]

not b/c i didnt have gems then, was b/c i dont like their kit/what they are offering

[vestal leaf]

I wouldn't mind getting adaman but ehhh

[oak crest]

or i just dont like the mons

(rats)

[tardy fiber]

Because its double edge, once DeNa release MF select their MF profit will go down like people just gonna wait for the select instead of pulling it when it released especially when its cheap

[vestal leaf]

Yeah easily

[oak crest]

(i mean, they did release a paid banner version now for cakes)

[vestal leaf]

Kills both economy and FOMO

MFs sell because they could rerun in 3 months or a year

[tardy fiber]

That might costs you 36.6k paid gems if unlucky

[oak crest]

could take over a year too

[vestal leaf]

The poma day rerun is just an extra banner they added so it doesn't change the economy itself

[oak crest]

yeah

[vestal leaf]

If anything it enriches it

[oak crest]

gambling for the rich..

[tardy fiber]

Well it probably help if whales are nearing 80k paid gem limit because DeNa only allow that max amount

So they had to spend on something

[oak crest]

this anni they did have alot of source to drain your paid gems even without spending on the paid MF banners tho

so many selects

surprising

[vestal leaf]

It also gives them a free role ex over freebies

[oak crest]

the past annis we mostly only have like

[vestal leaf]

Since a whale already used to spend 36.6k paids

[oak crest]

2 or 3 select banners?

[vestal leaf]

3 at most iirc

[oak crest]

this year we got like uh... 7 select banners

☠️

[tardy fiber]

Luckily cakes are able to be formed quite fast so i dont get tempted, only like 1 and a half month if you only focus on one cake and buy using daily tickets

[oak crest]

i probably focusing on tech first

since i have 2 units wanting that cake

[vestal leaf]

Yeah the amount of limited banners + selects + paid MF banners was all to inflate the horrible Q2 revenues

[tardy fiber]

Also 1 cake each will be formed every 100 days

[oak crest]

(you can also get coins if you got a new fave that is pfair as well)

its good if you dont have any existing units that uses that EX cake

[tardy fiber]

Yep i like the change, before this pokefair banner gives nothing while master fairs, seasonals, sc and even spotlights give move coins

[oak crest]

im also surprised they threw in that 5*PU outta nowhere on top of candy coins

since technically whales probably dont have a lack of 5*PUs

[tardy fiber]

But they lack spirits so can do PU > spirits conversion

[oak crest]

[tardy fiber]

But its value is kinda bad, i rather 5* 20/20 every non eggmon pairs if i got a bunch of even my non faves

Never know when the pairs might be useful, like certain pairs are boosted in certain events

[oak crest]

speaking of eggmons, havent been having any luck on the palden starters

still 0/3 3* supports

[tardy fiber]

Oh i only chase shinies so i dump everyone

[oak crest]

im not too fussed with shinies

[onyx tinsel]

What's your guess for October's gem count/ future gems? Think they are reducing our overall allowance, or more they lowered it during anniversary to try and push up sales?

[crisp grotto]

Hard to say tbh

Should know in a little over a week though

[unkempt vortex]

20k

[lofty forge]

Is it fine if you spend paid gem on daily discount ?

[feral vale]

Dailies are usually a sham

[buoyant elk]

If you can reach 3k is worth using them for a select limited banner

[lost bobcat]

For lightspenders: NO
Dailies are subtle and can easiliy drain your paid gems, for example by trying dailies on 3 banners for 10 days you'll burn 3k which is a select scout amount
Pokefairs and seasonals will likely reappear in select scout, it's just about time

Just look at thi last year SC and Seasonals, they appeared as select few months after their debut for 3k

I slowly stacked the 3k gem bundles, just few times I tried a daily, on very fav units and by limiting myself at 5 daily in a month.
This is my only own compromise rule

[vestal leaf]

24k

[onyx tinsel]

Wouldn't that be a solid number October wise?

[vestal leaf]

Yeah kinda

Not that insane depending on the month tho

[onyx tinsel]

I'm just trying to think logically why the sudden reduction for anni month when otherwise we're pretty stable

And 24 - 26k is standard

[vestal leaf]

Lacking Q2 revenue

They had to push paid gems shopping

[onyx tinsel]

So you think this is permanent

Or unsure

[vestal leaf]

We'll see next datamine

Since Q2 ends this month

[tardy fiber]

20k + 3k gems from rally so 23k

[unkempt vortex]

Bold of you to think we get 20k at base

[rigid oar]

But I have seen yearly average is 30k in that yearly per month average thread

[sturdy flower]

it's about to go down

[crisp oracle]

it's been a rough couple of months

hopefully we get more but it's been trending around 25K-26K

[oak crest]

well it seems that its going to be a downtrend tho with that abysmal amount we got on anni months

[tardy fiber]

I hope its at least 24k gems...2/3 pity is still a nice amount for me

[vernal glade]

I hope October a skip, I still need to recover.

[oak crest]

unless there is smth interesting, if not it should be a skiip month for me

[rare swan]

October can be surprising in the second half

[tardy fiber]

I forgot, is fall event in the first half or second half?

[sturdy plank]

usually somewhere between 15th to 20th i think?

last fall, we got it on 17th and 19th

[tardy fiber]

I see so it is on the second half, usually new seasonals banner are available for 2 weeks so if anything tempting, we can wait till datamine

[vernal glade]

That’s my plan. To wait for November datamine.

[vestal leaf]

Definitely not guaranteed

Again, the low august/sept gem count was because Q2 was really struggling and they needed to push hard Anni month to compensate

Also, most people compare this Anni with last Anni, which was the most gem packed Anni (and Q in general) in the history of the game

I don't think it's a given that next month will be sub 20k at all

Because sub 20k would mean going back to 2019/20 averages

Which would be just asking to kill the game

It's a possibility, as we always had some extremely dead months here and there, but they always match SC months (aka months that are utter filler content)

[rigid oar]

Thanks for telling me to save till pity || although it was sad to see it all go for one zapdos xD||

[rare swan]

But the main thing is ||you got him||

Plus ||pitying on MFs is very common, don't worry!||

[lost bobcat]

Highly doubt we'll go back sub20k, ppl will just leave for grief like when 5\5 grids were introduced
The game survived the first year with trash gem count, almost no content, and crazy gem prices (bcs no deals or bundles)
2021 was a good year for the game and the average was around 23k
Sure we didn't had 6 new limited units each month but I think now Dena is pushing more on lightspenders

[cunning swan]

if it makes you feel better, ||I spent three pities on all three birds||

all the saving I did was leading up to this

[tardy fiber]

I even ||pitied Pokefairs ... ||

Well after think back there's only 1% difference between MF and PF so probably its normal too