Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)

[upbeat pilot]

I feel like if he’s actually a fave his kit/role shouldn’t matter

[violet nebula]

And he will off type

[clever oyster]

and he doesn't get a Support Cake either

[ashen thunder]

If it turns you off, ez skip
Gems saved

[tough oriole]

||Not that we should talk about why people are good in here, but why would his kit matter?||

[clever oyster]

and I already went on record multiple times how much I hate off-typing

[violet nebula]

Turned off by a fave..the logic here baffles

[lofty forge]

I actually trying to buy champion bundle or monthly bundle

Champion bundle look a huge boost but it cost way more...

[violet nebula]

Champion bundle is once

[clever oyster]

Why couldn't Palmer be a support?

[lofty forge]

Ended up buying monthly after knowing you can buy every 20 days!

[clever oyster]

Or at least get a Support EX Role

[lofty forge]

thank you

[violet nebula]

OK well

We will all have fun with Palmer

With a cool pokemon

You can sit in the corner and moan why you did not pull him... then we will remind you of this

[ashen thunder]

That's the thing with rolling for ontype

Eventho offtype is better

[clever oyster]

...tch...at least I can expect a datamine before Palmer's banner ends

[ashen thunder]

A lot of favs either overlap types or just don't even have damage kit

[lofty forge]

oh....when does the x25 scout banner end btw

since the banner has Latios and I want to get him

[ashen thunder]

#1012256199128915968

[lofty forge]

Thank you.

[ashen thunder]

Plz spoiler abt pulling

[lofty forge]

alright.

[ashen thunder]

The channel mainly focus on resource saving

So you don't want to tempt others

[lofty forge]

Is scouting x25 or x10 better?

like x10 is for gem saving but x25 is best for the buck

[ashen thunder]

Uhhh
I don't do selects but whichever one that has your fav thats what you roll

Unless you lack the affordability to roll the more expensive one

[lofty forge]

Was there any ||Latios x10 yet||?

[ashen thunder]

Check the pins in #poma-questions

It has info on select pools iirc

[upbeat lotus]

You can find the info about select history in #1142434215208702073

[lofty forge]

only rerun once... cool.

Thank you.

[vestal leaf]

Skill issue

If it's fave you should scout it even if it had theoretically a bad kit

||(and in this case gigas is nowhere near bad lol)||

[ashen thunder]

They only want to ontype

Is the reasoning to skip

||Eventho his offtype is better than anything below A tier with zone||

[lofty forge]

Should I save 9600 gems for pity and ||get Blue 3/5|| or patience to get candy for him?

[rare swan]

Candy would be better, almost 10k gems is a lot to spend when you already have 2/5

[lofty forge]

I still have some support need to be 3/5 , and they are mostly poke-fair scout somehow

[rare swan]

Pokefairs are also good targets for candies

[ashen thunder]

Id say 10k is not much compared to candy
But if you have rerun priorities it's better to save

[rare swan]

Very dependent on the current balance

If they have 100k then no, if they only have 10k then yes it's a lot

[ashen thunder]

Well I personally find candy influx to be horrible

[lofty forge]

Based on this month gacha, I don't see any sync pair that I would need to pull tbh

[ashen thunder]

Not this month

In general

If you have future reruns you plan on rolling

[lofty forge]

2 months for 1 candy is sooo long

[ashen thunder]

It's better to save as much as possible

[lofty forge]

I will hold until next datamine then.

[rare swan]

Again, you're free to do it

I just personally would not unless you have a decent gem balance you're comfy with

[lofty forge]

well....news to you , I have been drained out.

so it is just "just go all in and skip half of this month gems"

ig i will wait until next month, thank you for advice!

[rare swan]

[tardy fiber]

Hurm, i think i wont claim cake coins using daily tickets...i will wait for 100 days till we form one of each cake and only then i buy using daily tickets

For now i think cake role isn't an urgent need as my faves that have those roles still perform well even without it

[upbeat lotus]

I just let my daily ticket unused until i really need a cake for a fav

[lost bobcat]

Ye, you also may want to be selective depending on your unit

Hoping ex roles will not be painful as EX ublocked

[tardy fiber]

True, i think i will have a clearer picture for my roster in 100 days

[ashen thunder]

Role cake is defo easier than candying

So I'll take it

[tardy fiber]

Yep, so even less temptation for the paid gems banner

Well basically you need max 4 move candies for a pair but only 1 cake, although the cake might take as long as 100 days, still shorter than 4 move candies

[sturdy flower]

they might add more sources too

seeing how they value one coin same as one 5* power up in store

[tardy fiber]

They also value 1 daily ticket = 1 certificate iirc

[winged fossil]

im just gonna sit on my daily tickets too for a while, since no trade rate limit theres no need to spend if it doesnt form a cake for a fav

even though i know which one im getting (supp) already

[oak crest]

im probably getting tech first

[tardy fiber]

For now i need tech and support, seeing it is more than 1, its probably fine for me to just wait

[ashen thunder]

I am gonna wait and see next datamine before buying

[vestal leaf]

I'm focusing support ex rolls because it automatically makes any unit better indiscriminately

[timber wren]

expect to be able to form your first cake around mid-late october, at which point you may as well wait for the november datamine to see what’s coming before using it

[vestal leaf]

So the first fave that gets supp ex role will be automatically much better

Zerena can wait a bit

Since she doesn't need it

[sturdy flower]

Zerena needs speed on entry, maybe one day

[ashen thunder]

Restrained freebie 9 in 5/5 grid for zerena

There
No gauge problems

[vestal leaf]

Recharging strike 9*

Even better

[tardy fiber]

Zerena is from a period where crit buff and offense buffs are at different buttons....units nowadays, 1 press +4 or +6 atk/spatk and +3 crit

[violet nebula]

She is still an animal of a unit though

[ashen thunder]

Well
We are also in a period where supports buff everything in 2 turns

[lost bobcat]

Consider roles are fixed

[ashen thunder]

Gonna be funny when they decide to give sprint role for aura cyn and strike role for rat by end of the year

[lost bobcat]

You can't choose and keep in mind if Dena is going like with "EX" it will take a while to cover older units

We are still missing many EX and two sync grids

[vestal leaf]

Yeah but we're getting few roles ex per month and few coins/rolls per month

So focusing in the best role ex rather than a specific unit is better imho

Eventually a fave will get supp ex and that would be way better than farming, let's say, tech role ex for red or regigigas just to have higher screenshots

[lost bobcat]

Oh, I read that like you want to slap supp role to eveyone
Sure supp is good, but so are tech+striker, striker+tech, mega+speed and so

No to mention zoners+field

[vestal leaf]

Yeah ofc

[sturdy flower]

SS Steven better get support

[tardy fiber]

Kinda good for Palmer though because he's normal so tech is kinda good...but ncred, yep its just more damage and he can benefit from ontype

[unkempt vortex]

He will not in fact get support

[tardy fiber]

Out of the current list, I am only attracted to zerena and palmer cake role...alas, i gonna wait till i can get 1 of each cakes later

[grim plover]

Both palmer and red are favs so i have to farm two tech cakes

[tardy fiber]

Well you will get 4 tech coin once you get a copy of palmer so that's a head start

Tech cake coin

[grim plover]

Yeah ||but I did so good with favs this month that I could go for more than one copy of palmer if I don't pity him||

[tardy fiber]

Nice, i ||just gonna grab 1, need a good gem balance for months ahead||

[broken mulch]

Just gonna save my daily tickets for the coins

[tardy fiber]

Same

I dont want to regret my decision

So better i wait till 100 days

That time also can form another cake using the 100 daily tickets

[fallen path]

I’m already exchanging for support cake coins

I already know what I’m going to use them for, so might as well

[violet nebula]

No apologems for leafs wrong currency to buy her items

Dena being savage🤣

[cunning swan]

[rare swan]

not even some darn lodge crystals

we really struggling this month

[cunning swan]

this anni month

[violet nebula]

Dena be like

[rare swan]

blease dena a Crumb of gem

[violet nebula]

They are on a rampage this month against players

[uncut comet]

Same, I will wait the exchange at least till I have a full cake of each kind. There are also some other viable exchanges that are worth to consider depending on how much those coins will remain a scarce resource

for the same reason I have 220 candy coins each (3 regular types of course) 🙂 also in this anni they didn't make a 10 coin exchange deal 😦

[lost bobcat]

Never heard of that

[uncut comet]

It's just my imagination (expectation)

[feral vale]

DeNA being STINGY

[sand crown]

They’re more stingy than me and that is saying something!

[tardy fiber]

Big gems this reset

[lean mango]

Gem count, #100klife

[tardy fiber]

Cris beat my gems again

[lean mango]

||not for long||

[tough oriole]

And cris can finally finish poisonmax too

[lean mango]

Kinda

Jessie and James still out of reach sadly

but LMarnie is a W, perks of waiting for a free select

[tough oriole]

More like WMarnie

[fallen path]

Just pretend Jessie and James sync pairs don’t exist at this stage

[lean mango]

how can I

it's Arbok and Weezing

[fallen path]

Because if it was gonna re-release it would have already

[lean mango]

Bugsy

[fallen path]

Don’t remind me

Next survey I’ll write those three units down

[lean mango]

nothing's holding that guy back yet he still is

[fallen path]

Bugsy is the skeleton underwater in the meme

[lean mango]

real

[fallen path]

I don’t think anime collab units will re-release, it’s a separate rights kind of thing

I would like to be wrong, but dena keep proving me right with this

[lean mango]

maybe one day they wanna redo the collab and rerun the anime units

[tough oriole]

||You’ll have them soon enough ||

[lean mango]

|| bur I want more ||

[fallen path]

That’s in TPC’s hands (and if Dena want to ask them)

[lean mango]

DeNa can ask pretty please

[vernal glade]

Jessie and James were to promote secrets of the jungle, Ash was for promotion for Journeys.

[sturdy flower]

but they are all beloved characters from the franchise

please give me Kojirou

[tardy fiber]

I need to be wary if any of my faves become collab like shadow mega mewtwo x pokken collab or something...plus now all 3 kanto birbs are available, pogo collab with team leaders using those birds are possible

[sturdy flower]

pogo collab but we use their ugly models as is

[tardy fiber]

Oh also melmetal

[sturdy flower]

[tardy fiber]

[sturdy flower]

Melmetal is a perfect pokemon to give Scottie/Bettie next canonically

we fought Giovanni with Torchic

[tardy fiber]

Time to give MC a free max move unit

Can do a team of registeel, solgaleo, melmetal

[sturdy flower]

im expecting a semi big update next month

they like to split anni changes into 2 updates

unit wise i don't think it will be anything special (2pf and 2 fall?)

but might foreshadow or introduce something cool

[tardy fiber]

Really? I thought it would be on November as October has Fall, December has xmas...so they need to cook something good on November

[uneven pewter]

It’s called a variety scout

[uneven pewter]

I am hoping so

[fallen path]

i hate variety scouts, but they are here to stay because people will still pull on them

[tardy fiber]

I will pull it if my faves are on it but sadly the pairs in it kinda have canon pairings so unless its chatelaines variety scout, not many people actually use my faves in game

Oh right, seeing this is a team rocket variety scout, i can see them doing it for other villain teams in the future

[upbeat lotus]

[fallen path]

i personally feel they are lazy and a money grab

and i do not support that

[grim plover]

most likely

i'll try to resist varieties but if they put matt in there i will have to pull

[deft glen]

I wonder if or when they'll give variety to popular characters

[upbeat lotus]

they already gave Lance a variety

[uneven pewter]

Lance would already be in the lodge if he was as popular as he deserves

[hard wave]

Lodge alder when

[tardy fiber]

Seems like elite four and villain team variety might happen

[uneven pewter]

Barf

[tardy fiber]

Although johto e4 is kinda weird seeing they share with kanto

[uneven pewter]

I mean it’s fine I’ll just sit in protest over it

[hard wave]

I think all 2020 PFs r in lodge besides those 2 right?
Cynthia, gloria, N, steven
SS Cynthia & Kantrio r alts so they dont count

[uneven pewter]

Even if it’s pointless

[tardy fiber]

2 variety brunos

[uneven pewter]

I just refuse to be part of the problem

[tardy fiber]

Oh right co-op event start this reset

[hard wave]

500 timegated gems

[tardy fiber]

I want to see what other rewards we can get

Other than rocket admins

[dark cliff]

That reminds me of the question as to why one of the rocket admins has the old school 80s chest shirt on

When he looks like he’s 20

[dark cliff]

And yet… no Zarude

[vernal glade]

Oh right I forgot that pokemon exists

[dark cliff]

We lack the mons for a full Monke team

Granted Zarude doesn’t have a trainer

He’s like a legendary meowth

[tough oriole]

#plaza-quotes

[uneven bone]

And we still don’t have the Striaton trio.

[glossy isle]

The normal type woman and the striaton trio for unova’s gym leader i guess that’s still havent been released yet

Eventho the striaton trio was all there but as npc in tea-time SC event last year

[tardy fiber]

Where's Chuck and Wattson

[weary spire]

Are the log-in gems always 500? :c I missed log-in today

[sturdy flower]

oh wow, that's some high effort for 1 candy coin

dena really had some policy shift

also 0.4% lmao

[tardy fiber]

They cut down gems rewards because of free selects this month? Lodge fair select and this guaranteed rocket admin

[sturdy flower]

This rocket admin is worthless

variety

units are like TL but cost 5* candy

last year we had Naomi

she was way cooler

[dreamy onyx]

All these variety units should’ve been like Tina, 4* units in a fair banner

[violet nebula]

Is it worth hoarding general scout tickets or just spend them now?

[tardy jolt]

Idk if this was already known but the rates for the Rocket banner are 0.4 per featured unit, that has to be the worst debut banner to pull ever

[violet nebula]

Dena being brutal this ani

This is a turning point for the game, they now are in shaft mode

And it only gets worse from here

[dreamy onyx]

Use them all now, then save until next anni

Hoarding is useless tbh, by this time next year you’ll pull most if not all of them

Also it’s a good source if you need PUs

[violet nebula]

The spare gold power ups are nice

[tardy jolt]

I second this, the specific region tickets may be worth saving in some cases (Kalos), but otherwise the chance to pull those 2/3 specific units from the general banner are so low already that seeing them decrease further just means having to gamble more

[tardy fiber]

I just spend them as i still have 0/5 and not yet 3/5 general pool pairs

Need 25,000 game accounts clearing all 16 missions to get rocket admin ticket

[dreamy onyx]

Yeah just save regional tickets in case new units drop.

[buoyant elk]

I would spend them until I get at least all of the units in the pool 3/5

No point in spending them if you already have everything at least 3/5

[sturdy flower]

damage dealers will appreciate 5/5 but otherwise yeah

[clever oyster]

I will continue to rally for Wes

being an Orre fan is painful

[tardy fiber]

I wrote Palmer Regigigas on last survey and it came true

[upbeat lotus]

its an obvious pairing

[grim plover]

i wake up to read that the rocket ticket is not today

dena stop being evil

[tardy fiber]

Really? But people keep saying Palmer Rhyperior before this happens

[tardy fiber]

The ticket won't even happen if there's not enough 400,000 mission clears

[upbeat lotus]

Palmer has always been associated with Regigigas

[tardy fiber]

He also uses heatran, cresselia, rhyperior, milotic, dragonite

[ashen thunder]

We really went from full candy set for weather duo event to coin set for VA conclusion

[lost bobcat]

That was a move before the introduction of candy coins

But it took a while to happen

or the prestige event

[tardy fiber]

I still wondering why DeNa didn't distribute more sprint and field coins...they doesn't seem to mind it for roll cake coin as today we got sprint cake coin

[lost bobcat]

Not enough units probably

[tardy fiber]

But there's already 3 sprint limited and 1 field

[lost bobcat]

Well compare that to the other roles and the amount is even quite generous

Give time and they'll ramp

[tardy fiber]

I kinda hope my faves are not from those 2 roles...only 1 sprint 1 field coin this month

[uneven bone]

Seriously. Give Wattson a Mega Manectric

[tardy fiber]

Last month was 2 sprint

[tardy fiber]

It is kinda his ace right? I don't remember if there's other people with manetric so it probably will happen

Also chuck poliwrath

[tardy jolt]

Hoping for the same tbh, they are just so annoying

[uneven bone]

Only in Emerald.

[tardy fiber]

Also because i plan to use my yellow candy to topup the candy roles that i lock which is strike candy before, now that there's field and sprint, i will be more wary of using it

[uneven pewter]

Man

Dena really hates my money

This rocket banner is atrocious

[uneven bone]

I just want the Kanto trio, that’s it

[uneven pewter]

Well that’s all i am going for now

I was going to try dailies or even steps on the banner

But 0.4% is just straight disrespectful

[vestal leaf]

The opposite

They love your money

The want more of it

[uneven pewter]

They have an odd way of showing it

Like tina and paulo should legit have been free units to conclude the VA

They don’t have the appeal lear rachel and sawyer have

Hell they GAVE sawyer to us

When the Lear Arc concluded

Makes saving gems easier i guess

[idle shard]

If V Lyra gets Support EX Role, I would want to pair her with an AoE water damage unit but I am curious as to which would be the better option when it comes to saving gems (V Lyra + Limited Unit + Non-Limited Unit)

1. Archie + Sp. Attack/Crit buffing unit (Torchic or Event Victor)
2. SS Kris + May or Lodge May
3. F2P Raindance unit (Eggmon Gyarados or Winona) + SS Lysandre or Eusine

[tardy fiber]

Oh right i might have more gems left, some gems are timegated like this Gio event but gem calc put all obtainable gems today

[dark cliff]

Is that the Regis or the Thunderous, Landorous ones

[idle shard]

Simi monkey trio

[uneven bone]

Nah the monkeys

[tardy fiber]

Is the elemental monkey trio

[idle shard]

||give me fire Monke and I shall dump all my saved gems /j||

[tardy fiber]

Lodge lucas infernape

He uses one in sinnoh VA

[idle shard]

Yes!
||only thing that will cause me to pull Lucas||

[tardy fiber]

Good news, variety lucas already exist so they cannot put it as Variety

[idle shard]

Variety Barry and Infernape

[crisp oracle]

Would SS Lyra get field or support ex role

[idle shard]

Either would be cool
Sync for sync buff or sync for +1 grassy terrain

[idle shard]

Still curious as to which would be the better option when it comes to saving gems

[tardy fiber]

I probably gonna prioritise cake on the pairs that i always sync with em...so far, I don't sync with sslyra much, so she gets low priority

Well at least it will open more team composition over time, more no support team will exist seeing some pairs getting support cake roles

[idle shard]

Yeah, I’m sure I’m not the only one who have seen a unit or two and went “I would have pulled/EX’d you if you were a different role”

[tawny cedar]

Oak is so deserving of a support ex role

[grim plover]

SS Wally with supp role would be cool

[tawny cedar]

He's so fun to use but requiring first sync for 3 of his core moves is painful

[tardy fiber]

Yep, support is nice as we need to sync with him anyway to unlock other type attacks

[sand crown]

I get that impression too, and I usually buy some gems here and there for selects and whatnot. Not anymore

[tardy fiber]

I stopped buying gem offers other than 20 days orb bundle after being hit by price increase twice

[vestal leaf]

Can't wait to see the Q2 balance, Q1 was pretty bad for PoMa standards, so I think these ideas were to raise up a very bad early Q2 (galar VA and twins seasonals)

[tardy fiber]

I thought twins are great, many people like the idea of them getting their first alt

[sand crown]

I always appreciate that, though it did not want to make me pull them

[tardy fiber]

I pulled due to Jirachi and Celesteela

[vestal leaf]

Yeah, but galar was really bad

Sales wise

[tardy fiber]

I skipped the whole galar VA because no faves

[vestal leaf]

And twins weren't THAT great

[tardy fiber]

Well it doesn't need to be game breaking like ash for people to pull...people pull if they are faves, kinda why people still getting summer hilda

Oh sclyra too

[sand crown]

Overloading with limiteds isn’t going to help imo. Can’t squeeze blood out of a cactus or however that saying goes

Economy is trash and COL is higher

[vestal leaf]

Yeah economy has never been worse

[tardy fiber]

Yep i dont mind rocket variety banner but if they are done on different month, we got nc kantrio, paulo+ tina, palmer+argenta already this month...they can just shift rocket to next month or something

They are riding VA hype by releasing 7 VA units, if so, they should move palmer+argenta to October instead

[sand crown]

October: seasonal variety

[tardy fiber]

Really? I thought November as pokewar is on November... truthfully i forgot what happened on October last year other than fall iris

[vestal leaf]

To be fair

It's Palmer and Argenta who are easily out of nowhere

Rockets make sense

Sure a variety with 20.2k tiered

And 0.4% each

Is inexcusable

But the units make sense

[tardy fiber]

Yep i already mentioned about it

Palmer is just because playable regice and registeel this month

[grim plover]

The neo champs too

If you have the anniversary and the VA end on the same day why would you make the anniversary totally unrelated to that

[vestal leaf]

~~Because they wouldn't sell for shit ~~

Paulo and another Gio aren't remotely as marketable as KANTOOOOOOOO

[tardy fiber]

Pretty sure people will buy Lysandre anniversary & shiny zygarde...if they stick with villainversary

Ghetsis anniversary white kyurem

[vestal leaf]

Yeah that's not happening

[tardy fiber]

But im ||loving kanto NC||, ive been stuck with only Mew and Mewtwo for my kanto region faves for a loooong time...now it has become 5 kanto faves

[grim plover]

imagine rocket kantrio

stonks

[tardy fiber]

Yep more protags wearing villain outfits when?

We already did the first step with sclyra

[vestal leaf]

Like, from the little knowledge I have

I can still see a huge disparity between 2022 and 23 sales

August saved itself on last week thanks to NC red

But it's still 1/4th weaker than last August

September will be very hard to beat too

Last year was pretty insane

[tardy fiber]

If some players being hit by apple price increase twice like me, we cut our spending

[vestal leaf]

Like

[tardy fiber]

It hits when the price changes are like 2 movie tickets

[vestal leaf]

2023 sales are less than 2/3 of 2022 sales

With only 3 months left

That's huge

[tardy fiber]

Well we still have more profit than pokemon unite though so thats something

Second most profitable pokemon mobile game

Second to pogo

[violet nebula]

Pokemon unite needs to die

[dark cliff]

Ohhhh

[vestal leaf]

We're exactly 2/3 of 2021 sales too

💀

[violet nebula]

Kind of expected when you do not create new content

[grim plover]

yeah, if this month makes less than last year (that was already mid) i would start to consider EoS, but maybe in 1-2 years

[tardy fiber]

Naw, I'm enjoying my not yet nerfed mewtwo

[vestal leaf]

Wdym 2022 had less content than 2023

[dark cliff]

Hoopa exists so a “dark realities” event

[vestal leaf]

2022 introduced LG and like 2 LAs?
2023 1 LA but HS

[violet nebula]

Yea

[vestal leaf]

Last year was nowhere mid

[tardy fiber]

I skipped last year's anniversary pairs, other than scrosa

[grim plover]

2022 introduced the lodge at least

2023 has Special CS and HS, which are very similar to CS

[pure arrow]

Wasn’t Terakkion introduced in 2023 also?

[tardy fiber]

Oh right terrakion

Introduced during tapus

Iirc because i beat it using them and it is weak to field

[vestal leaf]

I personally think HS had the most potential out of all the modes implemented after the game launched but lodge and EBEs

[grim plover]

yeah the problem are the pairs. Electric and Water dont have problems because everybody has at least good free alternatives but for example fairy would be hell

[tardy fiber]

HS is great, because max strength params will boost the enemies to insane levels...so DeNa can keep releasing like the new cake roles that also boost stats, and maybe level 200 cap in the future to even further boost

And maybe level 4 gears or new equipment

2 lucky skills

[grim plover]

I like that now using ash wont feel like an unnecesary overkill but i wish they would be more flexible with the off-type pairs

[vestal leaf]

Tbh this month might end with comparable sales to last year if players keep it up with rockets and palmer

I really hope the year isn't a complete flop

[mighty scroll]

Eos won't hit this game for a long time. Not even in 10 years time.

Such event only happens if the game can't earn positive income anymore. As much as poma is falling out in their sales compared to their old record, the overall earning is still above healthy status. So Idk why some of yall worries about that 😂
Also mind you guys, not all gacha games can maintain high income sales as year goes by. Even genshin fell out in that regard. So will genshin be on Eos in couple years? That's not how business work in this reality.

[vestal leaf]

Game sold more in last 2 weeks than in 2 months altogether

[tardy fiber]

Well if there's more pairs like ash, maybe you can afford to use 1 offtype pair in your team as you can beat higher strength params thus offset the missing multiplier

[mint zephyr]

I pulled because of I had no choice and I don’t regret it because content became a bit easier for me now (I haven’t pulled at all since I started)

Which support tho

[vestal leaf]

Well iirc DeNa closed up reDive when it wasn't doing THAT badly

[tardy fiber]

True like rerun sales in genshin will be give lower profit over time as more people will be having the unit and maybe even maxing em constellations out so no point to pull for reruns again thus lowering the profit for that run

[mint zephyr]

Why do reruns when you can just keep making new broken units every single month

[vestal leaf]

Well Mihoyo pulled out a substitute game while keeping Genshin in low maintenance mode

Which is what most gachas turn into when doing badly

[mint zephyr]

They’re a special company, I boomed them myself

[tardy fiber]

To target completionist especially those that just joined or missed the unit before this

[vestal leaf]

Why kill a still profiting game when just killing Dev expenses

And then EoS after a year or so when even low expenses aren't worth

[grim plover]

Well lets see what is dena doing next, we still dont know what the next story arc will be and thats kinda sus

[tardy fiber]

Multiverse arc

They already explained that there's 2 Rose, one in prison and another in pasio

Also fits for time paradox concept on SV

[grim plover]

yee

Paradox MFs on december

[tardy fiber]

And bit of PLA with warden Ingo and arceus importing the protags from another timeline

[tardy fiber]

[grim plover]

And the most important thing: alolan red & blue

[tardy fiber]

I know i will regret changing my yellow candy to strike when both the bike lizards being field later

Well if my fall Iris can wait for close to a year for 3/5...my future field and sprint faves can too

[uneven pewter]

If you went back before the doomchus that wasn’t exactly true

Ny volkner and c!elesa were two of the newest electric pairs for ages

[uneven pewter]

It’s not about doing badly, it’s the gacha aging cycle

As i stated before

Gachas tend to be on a 3 - 4 year maturity cycle

The greatest developments are always seen in the first two years

And the third year is generally the crescendo

Sometimes the 4th

There usually is a downhill slide after that

We will see what happens in the coming months

[ashen thunder]

Well this game can be carried by IP value anyways

It's just the marketing team suk

[uneven pewter]

That’s the Pokémon company in general atm

[oak crest]

this game wont die, if cafe mix can survive this probably can as well

[ashen thunder]

Yea but this game marketing team and dev team has like 0 communication it seems

[oak crest]

just not as high profits as it used to be

[ashen thunder]

That's why we ended up with fully paid banner for role cake of all things

[uneven pewter]

Again

That was purely for whales

Whales were going to use paid gems anyways

They don’t save free gems

That banner is more about being generous to whales

And giving them a cookie for it

[ashen thunder]

Yes but even whales don't like it

It's just an excuse to not give a MF selector

[dreamy onyx]

the coins from pokefair banners and the variety banner is more of a scam for whales

[grim plover]

and what happened to dragalia?

i havent seen the numbers but i think it was more a nintendo thing with mobile games.

[dreamy onyx]

dragalia was too f2p friendly and their monetization was horrible, also the mess with the first director... Nintendo also didn't promote it that much

i can still see poma lasts a few more years

[uncut comet]

Just saw the rally. That's all. I've just wasted too much time dropping this message. Yes it's rosik

[lost bobcat]

The wha

[vestal leaf]

Wait you wish there was such a fucking horrible thing?

I'm happy there's no MF select

That would give whales such a big advantage

[uneven bone]

Right?

[ashen thunder]

You are saying that as if PF and seasonal selectors don't give that advantage already

MF selector for 15k gems would be very reasonable

Current paid banners is not rly a big gain for whales

[vestal leaf]

2% is different tho

[vestal leaf]

What

Seasonals would get 20k step up but MFs 15k selects?

[ashen thunder]

Seasonals have selector rn

Wdym

[vestal leaf]

That's not how game economy should work

[ashen thunder]

I am not talking abt step up

[vestal leaf]

Yeah but selector is less liked by whales

They don't wanna wait years for a select

They want instant gratification

Selects are ways to bait small fishes

Whales don't skip on units they want

[ashen thunder]

Real levs would already spend everything on regular banners anyways
The new banner just exists to not help dolphins

Especially when we are at a point where we are averaging close to 2 MFs per month this year

[vestal leaf]

The new banner exists to give whales an instant gratification= ex role unlock for new unit

The whales couldn't care less about selects

Unless they're like, new players

Which isn't that common

[ashen thunder]

Yea but that's like Uber whales
Major chunk of gacha spenders don't spend $10000 per month

Losing those that spend like $20-50 per month regularly would hurt much more for any gacha game since they are the majority

[vestal leaf]

Yeah but the small fish didn't cry about MF getting paid treatment because they couldn't afford one

[ashen thunder]

Levs never rly care what they get or not

They just whale through everything regardless whether it's good or not

Current paid banner only benefits levs

Who would already pay the amount anyways

[vestal leaf]

Yeah because other players didn't ask or need an incentive

[ashen thunder]

Are you seriously telling dolphins don't want MF selector?

[vestal leaf]

I've only seen big whales cry about not getting shit from going to pity compared to free f2p

[ashen thunder]

[vestal leaf]

DeNa doesn't want to do a MF select

[ashen thunder]

Big whales cry and still spend in the end

The crying is their part of flexing

[vestal leaf]

They'll never do it unless if it's super old MFs

[unkempt vortex]

Yes they will

[cunning swan]

considering we have a paid MF banner now? MF select doesn't sound impossible anymore...

[vestal leaf]

The idea of MF select hurts their sales more than anything else

[unkempt vortex]

How is that any different from what other games do where they have character packs

[vestal leaf]

The more select they gave us the less people have been spending to get units right away

[unkempt vortex]

And you just pay for the character

[grim plover]

Paid MF banners are just a preparation to the 5/5 MF expansion, mark my words.

[cunning swan]

they've been rerunning older MFs consistently too. I can see a biannual MF select happening

[tardy fiber]

Paid roll cake banner are only good if they are nearing 80k paid gem limit and the whales bought both orb and coin bundle every 20 days, the rare occurrence of select scouts also contributed to reaching paid gems limit...i know because i once nearing 70k paid gems so i do full tier for both smliza and smtate to lessens my paid gems

[vestal leaf]

I can't, not until 2025 at least

[versed flame]

MF are a guaranteed drain on people's free gem stocks because sometimes people skip Pokefair/seasonal hoping to get them on select rerun imo 🤔

[vestal leaf]

^

[versed flame]

but MF guarantees that people will pull for FOMO and often to pity

[unkempt vortex]

That’s seasonal reruns too

[ashen thunder]

We are averaging 1 new MF per month
Now way a typical dolphin can roll most of em these days
Especially when they reduced the gem count as well

[versed flame]

true. chasing the butler reruns was expensive

[ashen thunder]

Not running selectors and slapping multiple reruns is just pain for MF chasers

[unkempt vortex]

Like what are the rates of holiday rerun gonna be now that there’s what 8 units in the pool

[cunning swan]

2% divided by 8

[versed flame]

worse than the TR variety scout.

[cunning swan]

0.25%?

[unkempt vortex]

[versed flame]

at that point please just split into multiple banners 💀

[unkempt vortex]

Or just do character packs

Like other games

[vestal leaf]

Seasonal reruns are universally known as scams, but selects give people reason to skip

Making people skip MF waiting for selects would kill the economy

[cunning swan]

anything past a quadruple banner isn't worth it

they really should've split

[vestal leaf]

Even quads are scams

[versed flame]

seasonal reruns are only if you really really need the characters 😔 be prepared to pity for sure

[unkempt vortex]

Selects suck

Like hey here’s your one chance in the year to get one unit that may be years old

[vestal leaf]

The fact they instashoved summer Hilda and N with the other 4 was already a huge red flag tbfh

[unkempt vortex]

And even then like the pf select if it doesn’t have anyone you want then it’s a waste

[vestal leaf]

They used to run the latest duo as a dual before joining it to the others

[versed flame]

i think i like the idea of selects imo (even as a f2p) it gives you the guaranteed opportunity to get units that you might not otherwise be able to put a whole pity into

[unkempt vortex]

And you could be waiting even longer for the rerun you do want

[versed flame]

so it's like. your actual faves you ideally grab on release, units you like but not enough to pity for are possible select targets

i think it's the idea of being guaranteed that makes you consider pulling units that you normally wouldn't

[lost bobcat]

Actually not, for lightspenders are a bless
Last seasonals select have both NY and Palentine of this year

I'm surviving with the 3k daily pack and stacking
Even if its price increased is ~ 70$ at year for 54K gems

It's a lot if you don't waste in daily, you can take all the selects you want

[timber wren]

historical gem/candy/cake count has been updated in #1010223517565976737

[tardy jolt]

Same thing. I think that given the amount that we get, one could even think about doing a tiered scout for some rerun units or even for new ones, if they are committed to only do guaranteed pulls with their paid gems. I think it’s one of the best things in the game tbh

[uneven pewter]

I am expecting pick your own rate ups to be coming soon

Sadly reminds me of the alchemists code

[sand crown]

I’m surprised this hasn’t happened yet

[sturdy flower]

game I play did it after 9 years of service now, but it's a massive scam since you need to pick 10 chars and you get one of them

[vestal leaf]

That's the ultimate "yeah we're now in minimum maintenance mode" implementation

I really hope it doesn't happen

[sturdy flower]

hope that is not the "new battle content and upgrades" they advertised 💀

[hard wave]

So we could increase pokefair rates?

[sturdy flower]

no, not "pick your own rates"

[hard wave]

[uneven pewter]

Pick your own rate ups usually are banners that allow you to pick the characters from a set pool to be the rate up characters once the characters are set they are usually locked in after the first pull. You usually only are able to use paid gems for it but sometimes games with that feature offer them for free gems but the pity is a lot deeper

[sturdy flower]

the way i know is it would be like 3k paid gems and got can choose 10 out of let's say all seasonals ever, but you can't choose any less

and you get one guaranteed

[crisp oracle]

||ngl saving has become harder with the gems trickling in slower||

[feral vale]

The gems are anything but bountiful this time of year

[crisp oracle]

I remember just a year ago we got 30K every other month

where does the gems go

||with less gems I feel like I have to be even more selective on how I pull||

[rare swan]

That's because you do

[fallen path]

why do i feel like the twitter account saying the phase in the graphic is a bit passive aggressive

[light oyster]

I'm torn on whether to pull for NC Red or NC Blue

[ashen thunder]

Pull neither

[rare swan]

#poma-questions , this is the saving thread

[tardy fiber]

I farm mostly theme skill orbs area this month, i already have enough to convert for next month so better i try to maxed out all theme skills for my pairs

[light oyster]

my bad

[dark cliff]

Wut? Their marketing team is spot on for social media and the like lol

[maiden kayak]

@rare swan ||dont pull that ariana banner , it sucks||

||i totally got suckered punchfrom that||

[vestal leaf]

I think rocket exec banner is only for those who are insane fans of those characters

[rare swan]

||too late ||

[vestal leaf]

Like, people who saved a pity for them for ages

[maiden kayak]

||i gave up on the ♂️pull things because bs shit like this and have to embrace lol||

[maiden kayak]

||how much did it took||

[vestal leaf]

||What Ariana does to a mf||

[maiden kayak]

im annoyed ngl

||but at the same time happy that i got ariana anyways||

[vestal leaf]

||how much did it take||

Tbh I would've waited for the ticket just to see if you got lucky

If you only wanted Ariana

[maiden kayak]

impulse happens

i feel like beating myself up ngl for this bullshittingly impulse

[rare swan]

||Nah, I know you've wanted her for a while - don't stress, it's worth it||

Can't wait until they do this to Shelly

[maiden kayak]

||i get that still annoyed by the rates ||

[tardy fiber]

2.5k gems next reset

[rare swan]

Good Aqua and I need them

[summer goblet]

anything lower than 1% is unacceptable and unworthy of my time to waste my valuable gems

and worst thing is that those Rocket Variety Scout are actual new characters (except for Giovanni) so some of them may contain favourites

truely a one of its kind

[versed flame]

yeah if it's only one pair you want at least it only takes pity, but with these groups of related characters you're likely to have overlapping faves

going to pity multiple times on a single banner is 💀

[tardy fiber]

I only pull multiple featured banner, if there's plenty of pairs i want in it...like i did pull sc pokewar rerun tiered because i still need dupes of schilda, scdiantha, scguzma

[vestal leaf]

Man other gacha games addicts would mald by seeing this

[tardy fiber]

Yep like this game that i once played

0.1%

Oh right, you cannot upgrade 5* hero to become 6*, its not like poma

[versed flame]

oh man

and that's a directly paid bundle too

[vestal leaf]

Yeah most gachas work with 0.5% or 1% as the best rates

Sure they usually give almost a pity a month, but the banner amount is sameish as PoMa and lower rates are definitely more important

[latent salmon]

we dont talk about gachas without pity tho

[vestal leaf]

Those are just evil

[latent salmon]

straight up evil. boiler room of hell evil.

[versed flame]

cafe remix

[latent salmon]

proves the point

at least poma is merciful-ish in that regard

[versed flame]

savers mentality works far better when you can visualise how many guaranteed pairs you have in hard currency

otherwise it's spending 100k for one pair and getting burnt out of playing quickly

[tardy fiber]

That game doesn't have pity well you can form 6* hero crystal over time by getting 5* hero dupes, but you wont be able to choose which hero you get

[crisp oracle]

Pokemon GO eggs/raids pretty much have no pity either

[uneven pewter]

It’s making me obnoxiously sad over it

Like

All i wanted was my villains

And they give us courtney

Then do us dirty with variety

[dark cliff]

I thought we were at least getting one of them for free via the ticket

[rare swan]

that doesn't help ||(as someone who pulled all 4)||

if you only like 1 of them, the ticket has a 75% chance of disappointing you

if you like all of them, your collection is forever unfinished

it's just overwhelmingly meh in general

[uneven pewter]

Which it’s a very realistic scenario to scuff and get only 1 at pity

[timber wren]

yes if you're only aiming for one of the 5 you have a 58% chance to have to pity for them

compared to the usual odds of having to 1/5 pity a mf at 24%

[ashen thunder]

When do we get the rocket rally rewards?

[timber wren]

when the twitter account says we've hit the number of missions

there's no way to track it

[ashen thunder]

So its immediate

[rare swan]

i don't think so

dena would announce on twitter we've hit the target then tell us the date the ticket will be distributed

it's not a case of unlocking it in-game

[tardy fiber]

Its in the mail

[rare swan]

still not a confirmed date though

hopefully it isn't the 20th, damn

[ashen thunder]

So on or before oct 20th

[tardy fiber]

On or before sep 20th

Because the rally only till 16 sep

Sep 6 to sep 16

[rare swan]

another terrible rally

i want that exec ticket but man. won't be upset if we don't make it because the community is annoyed af

[tardy fiber]

We cleared 106k on day 1, probably easier to clear because its not based on retweets

People still need to do it to get 500 free gems

Oh and 30 of each region's tickets

[rare swan]

yeah if we clear it it'll be because there's enough players doing the bare minimum to get the rewards

(it's me, i'm enough players)

[tardy fiber]

There's 16 missions, each account can donate 16 points...but we cleared 106k with just the first 2 missions so we have 53k active players at least

[uncut comet]

The final milestone is easy to achieve IMHO, it won't fail because it's based on the regular missions without any community effort.
If it was designed like the weather duo one (it needed resources and effort) probably it would have failed

[rare swan]

if only it had Weather Duo levels of rewards

[upbeat lotus]

im happy enough if rallies just give gems

[uncut comet]

A random unit out of 4 I don't have is not something I usually want to spit over, but neither such a proper celebration for anni, even worse at the top of skip tickets as a troll gift.

[rare swan]

that ship has sailed, bestie!

[upbeat lotus]

[ashen thunder]

I just noticed 20th lodge l100 gives 1000 gems

Seems like that selector wasn't a waste afterall

[timber wren]

(stolen from nick who probably stole it from the reddit)

[ashen thunder]

Still better than what we got for rocket event

[rare swan]

i just took psychic damage

[cunning swan]

We will never peak like this again

Wait no that's not the rally that gave full candy coins

[rare swan]

that is what the rally would look like if they ran it now

[ashen thunder]

No no no
You are totally right

Cant wait for next event to give 1

[cunning swan]

So High Score then

1 every 5k

[ashen thunder]

💀

Goddamnit Dena

[lapis pine]

My unpopular opinion is I think the free rocket unit is actually a better reward than 3k gems but I can understand people who don’t care for the units wouldn’t feel that way

It does help me not to be tempted to pull which is nice

[ashen thunder]

It's good reward if they are eventually adding em on lodge

The problem is

They are variety

[lapis pine]

They won’t lmao

[ashen thunder]

Means they can release PF version

For lodge

[lapis pine]

Variety isn’t bad if the unit is new outfit

[ashen thunder]

So you are just getting 1 useless unit

If it was selector it'd be better

I don't want to gamble

Only Ariana and proton are decent

[cunning swan]

Well yeah I get it. It's not very likely to get a unit in 3k anyway. But also if I could trade the free executive for 3k gems that can go towards my funds for the next fave, whenever that is, I absolutely would

[lapis pine]

Yeah like I said if you don’t care for rocket I get it

[sand crown]

Free is free, but I know I’m never investing in them nor would I ever pull on the banner. So they’ll serve as gauntlet fodder

[uncut comet]

I'm a simple person. No skip tickets,so I'll pass this rally

[uncut comet]

It would be a fine reward, if they didn't give us skip tickets as an anni gift. Just pick the whole picture + people can't select the one they like, it would have been a very welcomed gift in a random month rather than in a stingy anni 🙂

Like this is a troll behaviour on top of another.

[timber wren]

i can see this if it were a select ticket

as is if you want one of the admins you are pretty much guaranteed needing to pity, and it'

s much worse if you want more than one

[uneven pewter]

I want the community to get to the level of annoyance we were at with prestige. Everyone should be pissed off about this rocket banner being variety scout. It’s absolutely abhorrent how bad the rates are for the featured units and the fact they have the audacity to make the reward tickets random is just insult to injury. I am already typing up a lengthy rant on how much I despise them going this route and how the rocket execs should have all been spotlights. Especially since Giovanni is the only “actual” variety unit on there while the other 4 are first time premier units.

[cunning swan]

I don't understand the route they're taking with variety

Eevee trio was a triple banner, but the Kanto E4 had separate banners. So did Mallow and Kiawe

So WHY

What made them think lumping 5 units together in a debut banner is a good idea

[versed flame]

they're trying out things to figure out what will squeeze the most profit

they want to know whether they can get away with this highway robbery

[compact pasture]

They probably can?

[cunning swan]

[versed flame]

yeah they probably can. but it's comparing performance with previous ones ig

[gloomy holly]

Like I always say, expect disappointment everytime

[uneven pewter]

Depends on how badly the whales whale on it

They are testing consumer resistance

So if people don’t spend it’s a rejection of their model

Sadly with folks like poce, splgum and such

They will throw money at the screen and be free advertising for pokemex

And induce the fomo

I love the rockets and villains

I still am refusing to capitulate to this bullcrap

[ashen thunder]

Whales will throw money regardless

[gloomy holly]

Even whales will rant

[ashen thunder]

Feels like dolphin population is low in this game

Compared to other gachas

I am used to seeing dolphins as majority

So I always assume lazy stuff like variety would get backlash

[uneven pewter]

It’s not

[vestal leaf]

I doubt NCs might be carrying but rocket and Paulo seem to be doing well

[uneven pewter]

The dolphins are just ignored

[uneven pewter]

I don’t see how

[timber wren]

the bundles i imagine converted a lot of f2p and low spenders into more consistent spenders

[uneven pewter]

Paulo is about as appealing as barry

Aka id rather lick sandpaper

[vestal leaf]

Since they introduced bundles they doubled at least

[gloomy holly]

Should've said Nate or the Alola protags

[ashen thunder]

People like lycanroc dusk

[timber wren]

bc ultimately the bundles had good value

[ashen thunder]

Also Tina

I see more people roll her than pauloser

[vestal leaf]

Deadass I've seen people buying to scout on the banner just to get 5/5 tina

Also his kit is fun

And OCs are rarely rerun

[ashen thunder]

Also no alts
Cries in lack of sslear

[uneven pewter]

I hate barry so my point stands. The barry acolytes can die mad

[vestal leaf]

People hating Paulo are a loud majority

But there's also a decent amount of people that like him and that get pulled by metatalk

Sprint + supp ex is tempting

[uneven pewter]

I know that feel, still feel cheated we didn’t get champion lear with hoopah unbound

[ashen thunder]

Hoopa unbound and variety Giovanni (alt 2) lets go

[gloomy holly]

||I feel the same way when there's another Cynthia alt after SSA Cynthia||

[vestal leaf]

And with a recent SS diantha selects a decent amount of dolphins see him and diantha as ez rock upgrades

[ashen thunder]

But
Rock already has roark

But well

Most people want zone+rebuff+high BP dps for ontype these days

[uneven pewter]

Ontype

[uneven pewter]

Yep and I actually like her

[ashen thunder]

I legit saw someone say they like regigigas and palmer but skipping him coz he can't ontype

[versed flame]

me: "it would be thematically appropriate for them to run lear with hoopa unbound at anniversary but he might not sell well as an OC sadly... maybe a pokefair rather than Masterfair?"
DeNa: "here's Paulo and Tina"

[ashen thunder]

Ig that's one way to skip

But like

"Ontype"

[gloomy holly]

I don't

[vestal leaf]

I used to like Cynthia

This game shilled her so much to the point I kinda hate seeing her

Now

[gloomy holly]

Honestly, she's overrated even if I first knew about her and I absolutely despise her

[versed flame]

I like Cynthia but she's not someone I'm compelled to pull for

[ashen thunder]

I like her but she's not a big fav

So I am happy with owning 1 version of her

[versed flame]

personally I like her characterisation as a passionate historian (not sure if they put it in Pokemas?)

yeah i might pick her up next time there's a champion select since i don't have faves between them

[ashen thunder]

totally not coping coz kommo-o isn't in selector

[vestal leaf]

I like her og and SS units

The renegade outfit is great but the fact it's just a volo wank is cringe

The aura unit makes me vomit for every reason

[sand crown]

My disappointment was off the charts and my day was ruined when he wasn't in the mine

[versed flame]

renegade came out before volo 🤔 right?

[hard wave]

didnt poce complain about 5/5 grids? but ig he's still spending he even stopped posting for a bit bcz he couldnt afford it or smth

[ashen thunder]

Renegade is last year jan

[vestal leaf]

The month before

Yes

[versed flame]

ah so they could've known since it would've been in late stage development by then

[sand crown]

Complaining and then turning around and feeding the beast isn't a good look

[hard wave]

yeah

[ashen thunder]

They are rolling for "content"

Eventho spark also makes content

And he only owns 1/5

[vestal leaf]

I'm 100% sure there was inside corrispondence of some people saying "just pair a Cynthia with a giratina, we're making her PLA corrispondent a giratina user wink"

[ashen thunder]

For most stuff

[versed flame]

man the YouTube earnings cannot be good enough to justify it

[ashen thunder]

It's patreon and shit

Those earn some fine bucks

[vestal leaf]

Poce was also a DeNa partner no

That definitely put him in neutral

[ashen thunder]

Dunno
Maybe he is

[vestal leaf]

At least

[hard wave]

does he still go for 5/5 for pokefairs? seems like some have 3/5 or 4/5

[versed flame]

i mean the increase at that point is relatively negligible (BP and stats) for the non-expanded grids right

[hard wave]

yeah

[ashen thunder]

It's 5%

Per sync level

So its whatever

You don't see noticable gains unless it's more than 10%

That's why better to stop at 3/5 for gridless

[vestal leaf]

Well it's 20% between 1 and 5/5

It's something

[hard wave]

3/5 to 5/5 tho is 10% ig?

[ashen thunder]

Yep

The 1/5-3/5-5/5 is the reason why smth like silver vs SSred argument exists

[versed flame]

oh because we get free 5/5 for silver?

[ashen thunder]

Yep
5/5 silver, 3/5 SSred and veterans that own 5/5 SSred

[sand crown]

That vet would be me. ||I get much more usage out of 5/5 SS Red||

[vestal leaf]

I have 3/5 and I've used it once or twice in last 3 years because of 4/5 Leon (don't ask)

[versed flame]

meanwhile as a this-year player i straight up don't have him

[uneven pewter]

I don’t see how considering he’s arguably the most popular oc for masters aside from the rachel fans

[versed flame]

true true

and i was definitely hoping for it

(and budgeting for it)

i was trying to temper my expectations

[sand crown]

It's still possible...maybe variety Lear

[versed flame]

but well. Paulo

DON'T SPEAK THE CURSE

[ashen thunder]

It's gonna be variety Giovanni with hoopa unbound and variety Lear with honchkrow or smth

[versed flame]

[ashen thunder]

Me waiting to see NCN steal white kyurem and nate still not get alt

[sand crown]

lol poor Nate

[versed flame]

not sure if this is the right channel for it (steer it away if not) but who do y'all think will get the unova NCs

[vestal leaf]

Nate and Rosa

Imo

[ashen thunder]

Hilda, rosa, N

[vestal leaf]

I wish it was cheren and Bianca but who am I kidding

[versed flame]

personally I'm coping that it will be rivals like galar. bianca cheren hugh and maybe N to give it that moneymaker kick (that is four though which is a lot)

[ashen thunder]

4 MFs

[versed flame]

yeah ,,

[vestal leaf]

Nate Rosa Hugh would be nice ig

[versed flame]

^^ true, fits the up and coming generation theme of the NCs

though actually cheren and bianca fit the kanto NC justification of "mentoring younger trainers"

[vestal leaf]

Well most NCs won't have a repeating theme imo

[versed flame]

ah true what was kalos?

[hard wave]

NC Rosa, Hilda, and Hilbert with Nate joining Lodge

[versed flame]

the best Nate can hope for 😔

[hard wave]

id rather have lodge hilbert tho tbh

[versed flame]

lodge cheren anyone?

[hard wave]

Well he is the only story 5 star not in lodge

[versed flame]

(i don't even need it to be an alt i just want a usable pair for him please)

phrasing it that way does make it seem more feasible!

another "free" lodge

[ashen thunder]

I hope atleast next half anni free selector has kommo-o

This anni selector suk

I don't want to roll rerun banner for super old units

[timber wren]

this past half anni we didn’t even get a select, it was that PF guarantee scout

[hard wave]

That was different, it was for golden week

I think it happened in may

We got the champ select for half anni, cynthia steven lance alder c.iris and diantha

[timber wren]

you’re right, it did happen in may

the champ select was a giveaway not a paid select tho iirc

so we didn’t get any paid selects between NY and run up to anni

[hard wave]

Oh I thought we were talking about free selects

[timber wren]

it makes sense that they stuffed so many into anni this year, it forces people to use up their paid stash and spend

rather than spread them out over the year

[gloomy holly]

Anniversary is always the biggest way for gacha companies to make them green papers

[feral vale]

Oh I know exactly who you’re talking about

[vestal leaf]

Especially since this year July and August were pretty low

They needed a strong September to inflate the Q2 results

[uneven pewter]

[gloomy holly]

Variety Nate when

[uneven pewter]

I promised the admins I wouldn’t sandbag him. But I’ll never let go his overhyping of Guzma

I’ll leave it at that

[vestal leaf]

SC Guzma?

[uneven pewter]

Og

[vestal leaf]

Wait

What

[uneven pewter]

Oh this goes back to pre EX days

[vestal leaf]

How do you hype up Guzma

Even on launch was awful

I was more hyped about plumeria since it was the first poison banner iirc

[hard wave]

[tawny dagger]

Not really

He was like the second best physical striker at release

[vestal leaf]

Sure, for coop

Steven was released a month earlier and was way, way better

[summer goblet]

Here here

The game is getting greedier and greedier as it goes

Though part of it is kinda our fault for ignoring the spotlight unit altogether

[uneven pewter]

This is a fallacy

This is the same logic of “our game got shut down because we didn’t buy enough”

Do not let game companies get you in that headspace

[grim plover]

im so mad at that rocket banner too

rates that are practically a sure pity

no 6ex

5 characters for a total 2%

you know they're bad when the MFs are better banners

[summer goblet]

I mean that’s kinda true

[uneven pewter]

Again

It’s conditioning

[summer goblet]

Most of it is on dena

[uneven pewter]

Correct

If people would let a product fail

And let the company feel consumer control

[summer goblet]

But we the player play a part in forcing dena to i introduce variety

[uneven pewter]

Then the company would correct its behavior

[uneven pewter]

Not entirely

But players whaling fomo

[summer goblet]

if we are told to skip spotlight very consistantly

how else will Dena make money

[summer goblet]

exactly, its the fomo

so really, its kinda the player base fault for letting this happen

[uneven pewter]

Dena’s issue is they don’t make the spotlights attractive

Reality is that we have not had a sabrina level spotlight in ages

[summer goblet]

all Dena does is make money which again its the very necessary for the long term survival in the game

[summer goblet]

SS Erika and Sonia ring a bell to you?

[uneven pewter]

I say that because sabrina and maybe sonia

[summer goblet]

and Olympia

[uneven pewter]

Pfffft

Olympia is just not appealing at all

[summer goblet]

i guess they can through popular characters when they first release

[uneven pewter]

Ss erika was a striker

Which that is 100% denas fault for watering down strikers

To being pure damage dealers

[summer goblet]

i don't get that logic

[uneven pewter]

And having to compete with techs

[uneven pewter]

For the longest while, it was why bring a striker when a tech does more

[latent salmon]

olympia had too much competition + anni looming over her to really be appealing to most people imo. dena tried their best to make her banner flop with that timing

[uneven pewter]

The issue with role compression is that it saturates one role

[summer goblet]

right

[uneven pewter]

While I don’t disagree with splitting tech zone and acceleration roles

To me it’s way late

[summer goblet]

but that does not negate the fact that its not Dena's fault

[uneven pewter]

It should have dropped back at the ex update

[summer goblet]

also, gameplay has change significantly to improve the gameplay

[uneven pewter]

Well

[summer goblet]

and not make it stale

[uneven pewter]

I personally think the three man teams are horridly limited

[summer goblet]

now we are mixing striker tech and support together

[uneven pewter]

I wish it would allow us to take advantage of having three teams more

[summer goblet]

with roll cake

[uneven pewter]

Like how it is with solo co-op

[uneven pewter]

Man just wait till you see the damage creep

People have no idea the level of stupidity we’re about to witness

[summer goblet]

powercreep is inevitable at this point

its how fast or slow the process are

and if Dena willing to lock events behind meta units

which i guess most of the player base don't care

so i've heard

[uneven pewter]

Umm

That’s what happened originally with prestige

And the playerbase flipped out big

So no thankfully event gating is something we have the luxury of dodging to a degree

[summer goblet]

that was the first instance of a huge controversy

honestly, if i were to have it my way

[uneven pewter]

They’re about to piss the dolphins off with this rocket banner

I already am refusing to pay on it

If the rates were 1% per rocket

I would have bit

[summer goblet]

i would have have combine the variety and spotlight into part of a pokefair unit

[uneven pewter]

But 0.4% get the hell out of here

[summer goblet]

each have 2% in one banner

[feral vale]

I like Olympia and Drasna, I got them on the way not long after their debuts
Problem is idk if DeNA sees that or cares about it

[summer goblet]

i think the general problem is that spotlight units are not making enough money compare to limited scout units which kills their appeal

[feral vale]

Yee, and they came on a different banner (not saying who for reasons)

[summer goblet]

factor into the wait and save mode and the fomo that the majority of player base has

and we got ourselves a variety scout unit

intially, it was not too bad

[rare swan]

If you're not pulling on the actual Spotlight banner then it means nothing

[summer goblet]

but the rise of new characters like ball guy and rocket admin is beyond reach

so yeah, we kinda cause the spotlight to go extinct

but we do have the power to bring it back

[crisp oracle]

Eh Spotlight was going extinct, or semi-extinct regardless

[summer goblet]

boycott variety and start spending on spotlight

[crisp oracle]

as the game slowly shifted power away from FTP to P2W

I mean Shauna is plenty popular, and look at what that got us

eight months and no spotlights

[summer goblet]

Fomo is the achilles heels of all players

[tardy fiber]

The harsh truth, i will pull if there's any of my fave in it but unfortunately not recently...i did select scout to 3/5 my Lusamine before so that shows my willingness i guess

[crisp oracle]

FOMO is the reason we have gacha's pitfall

||when you roll when you have a certain amount of currency||

||Last time I fell for FOMO was NCCalem... did I regret it at the time, yes. Do I regret it now, hell no||

[summer goblet]

i'm still trying to mentally overcome the fomo for MF right now

i just like 99% of all charcters and pokemon from MF

[tardy fiber]

Pokefair is the most FoMo for me, it used to be Master Fair but they are rerunning 1 MF a month now. Seasonal always rerun on a fixed period and there's seasonal select that have all seasonals except the most recent ones...pokefair select doesn't exhibit same behaviour like the recent one only have emma, ingo, victor and celesa or something