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[ashen thunder]

https://twitter.com/PokemonMasters/status/1698171325460672789?s=20

Pokémon Masters EX (@PokemonMasters)

Announcement ⑮

Special Event: Stop the Evil Mastermind! will begin on September 5 at 11:00 p.m. PDT!

This special co-op event marks the conclusion of the villain arc!

Everyone will get rewards based on the number of missions completed by all Trainers! 🎁✨

#PokemonMasters

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Twitter · Sep 3, 2023, 3:09 AM

4 execs but gamble

[feral vale]

Also they do not specify the rewards

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-frodo-alright-then-keep-your-secrets-smiling-gif-26462584

[deft glen]

when they don't specify we know what it means

[ashen thunder]

Watch those rewards drop after anni banners end if it's gems

[deft glen]

only 1/4 chance of Ariana

[deft glen]

If the rewards were gems they would say it

[ashen thunder]

Well it's gonna be gems but not for anni units

That's why they didn't mention

[grim plover]

honestly it's better for me than the 2 execs in the banner lol

[grim plover]

i like ariana and petrel so it's a 50% chance for me

[vestal leaf]

It was 50% already with the Ariana/archer theory

[sturdy flower]

shame Gio isn't it, also I hope to get Petrel then

[cunning swan]

Give me anyone but archer anyone but archer anyone but archer

Surely i can't lose a 75% chance? 😭

[vernal glade]

I’ll accept anyone.

Only for the free 10 gems.

[ashen thunder]

It's 10 gems

They aren't getting a single candy from me

Regardless of who I get

[vernal glade]

Same. I’m saving my candies for my faves

[cunning swan]

Same, which is why i'd rather have someone I find satisfying at base

Archer's base kit is the least interesting for me

[vestal leaf]

I would consider Ariana because she's funny and I'd love to shit on the 3 variety Agatha havers

[ashen thunder]

Ariana has great synergy with firis for what it is

And proton is special support

Others are whatever

[sturdy flower]

Giovanni and that gameboy moveset

fits a cartoonishly evil villain well

...and now I gotta do 10 streak LG

[vestal leaf]

Yeah proton is the only one that can remotely feel like a 5* native kit

Imo

The other 3 are like

Glorified 4* kits

[ashen thunder]

Well they aren't 4* kit.....

[vestal leaf]

Yeah I know

[ashen thunder]

It's just they feel like 2021 units

Big nuke and utility

[vestal leaf]

Nah Ariana and proton are fine

[ashen thunder]

Low damage

[vestal leaf]

Underpowered

But fine

After all variety is like

Gen pool 2.0

[ashen thunder]

Well Ariana is fine coz she has firis
Pretel kit is just sad

[vestal leaf]

Pretel and especially archer are just

Why

[ashen thunder]

Archer is dark speed support

Which is funny

Coz none of dark units have gauge issues

[vestal leaf]

Yeah

And none of them have cakewalk

Iirc

[ashen thunder]

If he was smth like steel

It's be god tier

[vestal leaf]

Or fighting

[ashen thunder]

Yep

He's in poor typing

[vestal leaf]

His kit is also generally awful

1/5 Ariana has niche uses

Like enabling Oleana further

Or idk

[ashen thunder]

Ariana has tech+strike nuke

[vestal leaf]

1/5 Proton is a cheap support you can slap in some funny clears

[ashen thunder]

And acid OAR9

And screech

[vestal leaf]

Ilik

[ashen thunder]

Means she works perfect with both oleana and firis

[vestal leaf]

But I'm saying at base

1/5 non role exed

She's okay

Proton is meh but I can see using him for LG or smth

The other two are just awful even at 3/5

[ashen thunder]

I like proton coz special supports that can actually take hits are pretty rare

Almost all of em are limited

[vestal leaf]

Why use Archer when Karen powerboost exists

[vestal leaf]

Yeah plus flinch + confusion is useful for most LAs

If you need interference

[ashen thunder]

Well closest thing I can think is copium kekwalk setter for a kekwalk dps if you don't have zone.....maybe

For archer

[hard wave]

Do we know the rewards

[ashen thunder]

No info other than free admin

We'll likely know within next 2 days

[hard wave]

Oh alr

[deft glen]

Coping for cake or candy coins at least

[ashen thunder]

I am coping for SSred, ssblue and ssleaf powerboost

[vestal leaf]

Like they need it tbh (jk ssleaf definitely does)

[ashen thunder]

Well they are top priority to get em to as workable as possible for me

But sometimes PB itself might be solid enuff to skip out on 5/5 grids

Like cynthia and lance

[rustic heron]

did they not already get power boosts?

[junior trout]

maybe they mean ex roles

[ashen thunder]

That's 5/5 expansion

I am talking abt powerboost

Like cynthia and lance

[junior trout]

so a horizontal expansion

blue already has one and unfortunately i dont think red or leaf are due for them any time soon

lance desperately needed it and cynthia got lucky cuz she was the first masters day pair to get it

[ashen thunder]

Red still needs it
He's so underwhelming compared to his competitors

Leaf needs some level of self setup as well

[junior trout]

i would not call red underwhelming at all

he can still hold his own being a striker when all of his competition is just techs

[ashen thunder]

He is
Outside bulu comps, he's very copium

[junior trout]

to each their own ig

[ashen thunder]

Well he's still compared to silver

No other top tier unit is compared with a free unit

So clearly he's missing smth

You don't see people tell say....lance bad coz cyrus exists anymore

[junior trout]

because lance and cyrus serve different purposes now lmao

cyrus is rarely ever used for dragon damage when he has hydro pump

[ashen thunder]

OK fine
You don't see that for lot of high end limited water units either

I actively see people argue silver > red even now without factoring in F2P aspect

So he needs a buff to stand out

Especially fire is also very physical focus these days

[junior trout]

he can run flare blitz now with his recent pb

[ashen thunder]

Yea a joke setup that needs bulu

[junior trout]

albeit needs to be 4/5 but the same claim could be made for stuff like blaziken, victini, cinder

[ashen thunder]

I don't like FB build at all

His BB still has higher damage

Only good shit he got was soften up

And maybe propulsion
But 5/5 for propulsion is ewww

Blaziken has ramp and debuffs even at base, victini has like 0 setup issues and cinderace is just busted

[vestal leaf]

Well after PB his dragon sync and DPS ain't a joke by any means tbfh

Especially alongside dialga

[junior trout]

all he got post-pb (in terms of increasing his damage) was another critastrophe 2 tho

the rest was utility or for hydro pump

[vestal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/am-ia-joke-to-you-meme-original-video-am-ia-joke-joke-to-you-gif-27389464

[junior trout]

ohh i got that mixed up with hydro pump ramming speed 💀

its so dumb they were diff tiles and not just a yellow tile ramming speed

[vestal leaf]

That was on base kit lol

It was the whole reason

Dragon wasn't used

Pre PB offtype hydro was better than ontype rend

They overbuffed his water side on grid

And then buffed dragon with PB

Critastrophe + ramming speed

[sand crown]

Little late to the discussion but whatever the worst admin unit is, that’s who the game will give me

None of them wow me to be fair

[fallen path]

I most likely won’t use any of them, although maybe for a CS stage to see how it goes

[winged fossil]

I’m waiting patiently for this reset so I can claim N finally

[dark cliff]

What’s the difference between white coats and black coats

[winged fossil]

I’m assuming kanto vs johto? Dunno if I’m wrong on that

But I THINK black is kanto and white is johto

[tough oriole]

Could be wrong, but I feel like the black suits are in the field more

[winged fossil]

Could be that too. I just more commonly see the black suits associated with kanto

[tardy fiber]

White is more for administrative tasks probably while black is more like field squad commander...as Archer handles the operation when Giovanni goes M.I.A

[naive imp]

So would giovanni be field squad since his is black?

[tough oriole]

That’s what i saw

[tough oriole]

Black with Gold Stripes is field execs I think, since Petrel/Proton have it

[tardy fiber]

Well he is the boss, he can wear any color he wanted

[earnest kiln]

"Gameboy Moveset" XDDDDDDDDDDDD

[winged fossil]

1 hour left to wait till i can rush the ticket

prob gonna go ahead and do one of the cs stages in a few mins for the other mission

[vernal glade]

I’ll do the Giovanni stage later. But I will focus on CS first before I go for the ticket. I know who I’m getting.

[hard wave]

Ill do CS last

[winged fossil]

70k coins in my giftbox... mustve forgotten to exchange something for PUs, oh well

[versed flame]

managed to claw out 3 wins on LG for the first time! (i am starving for lucky cookies i need the BV to come back quickly)

[clever oyster]

...welp, just had to find out that the datamine is prolly gonna happen AFTER the SC Rosa banner is already over

which means I will have to make a very VERY difficult decision

go for SC Rosa and risk not being able to get someone I'd want on October or wait for the October datamine and risk not being able to get SC Rosa, but then still be able to get someone like Bede or NC Leaf if the October datamine has nobody of interest?

[upbeat lotus]

you forgot to exchange items in Johto VA shop like me

i got 250k coins

[clever oyster]

...should probably also mention that my pity candidates actually changed a little due to...recent events

now my pity candidates are:

||Bede (something tells me I might still be lacking in Fairy strikers and I like Hatterene, but I don't really like Bede himself)||
||SC Rosa (I really like Shaymin, but not only do I not care for Rosa, but I also think that Shaymin should have gone to a DIFFERENT trainer than Rosa)||
||NC Leaf (don't really care much for Moltres, but NC Leaf has a cute costume?)||
whoever is planned for October (hoping for Arezu personally)

[winged fossil]

dont we spoiler pairs that are running in a given month here?

[clever oyster]

ah, shoot

done

[ashen thunder]

||If you don't like bede
He's ez skip||

Ah

[clever oyster]

anyway, would be happy if people could help me decide

[ashen thunder]

Like I usually say

Rolling for type coverage

Is not worth at all

[winged fossil]

esp since they repeat mons

[clever oyster]

I mean, in the case of ||Bede||, it's both type coverage AND me liking Hatterene

[ashen thunder]

Biggest problem with type coverage rolling is that you'd have a fav dropping in same time but it's a dps type you already have

Doesn't mean you'd skip

[winged fossil]

i personally would be hesitant to roll even a lycanroc if its stuck with a trainer i really dislike

[ashen thunder]

Then it should be more like rolling for hatterene than type coverage

[winged fossil]

and lycanrocs literally my #1 fav mon

[ashen thunder]

Yea if you dislike trainer that's a ez skip as well

Coz they are the ones that show up when you press skills

[winged fossil]

id normally be pulling ||paulo|| rn but sprint is going to take FOREVER to upgrade and im prob not gonna use him at 1/5 so im skipping

[clever oyster]

...alright, skipping Hatterene then, I guess...even though I dunno who else would be using that Pokémon

since the only other trainer that I know would use that Pokémon...is ALSO someone I don't really care for

[ashen thunder]

It's a galar mon
And Dena likes galar

They'll repeat it eventually

[clever oyster]

yeah, but I can't see any non-Galar trainers use Hatterene

as in I don't think Hatterene would, like, really fit those trainers

[ashen thunder]

There's always a chance

[clever oyster]

...I say that, and yet, SC Rosa has Shaymin

[vernal glade]

Besides, im only after favs. So everyone else this month don’t interest me. ||I got to pull for Hilda and Hilbert SS once they rerun.||

[clever oyster]

even though I am of the opinion that Rosa is absolutely one of THE worst choices for Shaymin

[ashen thunder]

Especially stuff like seasonals force random Pokemon on trainers

[winged fossil]

i could see someone fashion related getting it sometime, trin

[ashen thunder]

Like mightyeana Hilbert

[clever oyster]

it's not just seasonals either

again, SC Rosa exists

[ashen thunder]

I consider costumes as seasonal placeholders

Both are 7% 5* rate

And the kits age like milk

[clever oyster]

see, there's someone who would be much more fitting as the trainer of Shaymin

but knowing DeNa, she will never get Shaymin

[ashen thunder]

They just released shiny suicune just to give it to eusine

[clever oyster]

...then again, DeNa did surprise me with Eusine finally getting his Suicune

so who knows

[ashen thunder]

Legendaries have higher chance to get shiny variants on popular trainers

[clever oyster]

maybe Marley will get her Shaymin, too

and maybe Flannery will get her Heatran, too

...oh, who am I kidding, Flannery will NEVER get ANYTHING ever

[ashen thunder]

That's what all lisia simps said

[clever oyster]

being a Flannery fan is pain

[ashen thunder]

Till December last year

[winged fossil]

tate and liza fans till summer:

[ashen thunder]

If you wait for it, they'll eventually come

[vernal glade]

That’s why I’m saving.

[winged fossil]

im honestly surprised i exited anni with more than i went in with, especially considering there were some things this month i found too hard to resist...
||going 2 pairs with net positive i feel is pretty rare, at least for me.||

anything left is pretty easy skips thankfully, between the sprint candy reason and rest just not really interesting me

[tardy fiber]

Done with VA, now to see what is the co-op event in few resets

[ashen thunder]

This anni broke me

Hopefully next few months are dead like last year

[tardy fiber]

Still not over yet for me, 70/71 faves

[feral vale]

This is gonna be a looooooong anni for me

[tardy fiber]

Well i calculated, i will have 77k with remaining gems

So even if a pity happens later, i will still enter October with a pity on hand

[ashen thunder]

||I actually want to roll all 3 NC kanto|| but not enuff gems

Think I'll just wait for rerun

[vestal leaf]

Good luck with that, MF reruns are hell

[ashen thunder]

Yea I already gave up on payquaza

I'll likely give up anyways

MF reruns always have shit timings

[vestal leaf]

I remember the first time I skipped a unit I wanted

30 months to get it

And it wasn't even a rerun

So yeah when we say "I'll wait for rerun"

It's basically like saying "yeah 99% not happening"

[ashen thunder]

Yea
Tbf only rerun I ever managed to roll were eon duo and ssmay coz I was actively saving for em

I gave on lot of my targets already

[tardy fiber]

Good luck you guys, I'm pretty sure my no rerun days will be numbered...SV has too many faves.
-4 ruin pokemons
-20 paradoxes (might add another 2 if there's paradox entei and terrakion)
-3 kitakami heroes + 1 ogre
-1 rainbow turtle

[lapis pine]

Idk if you should go for paradoxes but up to you at the end of the day

[tardy fiber]

Well because koraidon, miraidon, iron leaves, iron crown, walking wake, raging bolt are Paradoxes

Cannot discriminate other paradoxes

[ashen thunder]

Well if UBs are in list

Might as well add paradox

[tardy fiber]

True

[ashen thunder]

Good thing I don't have much favs
Since I already got Blaziken , greninja and OG kantrio

Only want to boost my favs

[broken mulch]

I’m just hoping October is a skip month haha. I need to recuperate

[tardy fiber]

Same

I think 6 new faves this month already covered 2-3 months of my satiety

[violet nebula]

Of course rockruff came back

[grim plover]

Nice free pair ticket. It will help me resist the urge to pull.

[clever oyster]

Trying to remember: who were the previous Halloween sync pairs?

[tardy fiber]

Fall iris and fall allister

[uneven pewter]

@maiden kayak but just to give you perspective on measurement points for what they look at for EOS.

Gacha companies look at content flow

-How much is the overhead cost? aka production of new content?
-What is the profitability of our product? Aka new characters (Dena is terrible at monetization creativity. They could be raking in money off character customizations and they just refuse to put a brain on.)
-What other products are in the pipeline that we could better utilize resources (Aka developers)

The saddest truth when it comes to Gachas is the content pipeline begins to slow down immensely. Most Gachas peak in terms of profitability around the 2 year mark.

Pokemon masters EX likely peaked at the third anniversary. As that was the biggest metric in terms of new player downloads and cash spent for chasing the Ash banner.

[uneven pewter]

9/10 times holiday pairs will "eventually" end up on a selector gacha

[clever oyster]

but those are paid gems

[uneven pewter]

if you're willing to spend $4 for a months worth of daily gems

[clever oyster]

and...well, have you already checked my username?

[uneven pewter]

well in that case just hard pass it

[clever oyster]

yeah, but...that doesn't answer my question

[uneven pewter]

seasonals are always terrible ROI save for favorites in alternative outfits

[clever oyster]

yeah, well

[uneven pewter]

I mean vatner already answered the one

[clever oyster]

I am trying to remember if one of them is a fave!

[uneven pewter]

was there another?

ah

[clever oyster]

err...I moreso meant ALL previous Halloween sync pairs

and not just the ones from last year

[uneven pewter]

so we have

H!Acerola
H!Caitlyn
H!Morty
H!Iris
H!Hilbert
H!Allistar

[clever oyster]

...who's Ace?

[vestal leaf]

Acerola

[clever oyster]

oh

[uneven pewter]

fixed

[clever oyster]

okay, I have who I want...I think?

[vestal leaf]

:whyareyousobad:

[clever oyster]

I mean, I like Caitlin...problem is that I dislike Sableye

[uneven pewter]

[uneven pewter]

I mean she's a fun pair

one of the few omni buffers

also has +speed

[vestal leaf]

Is that emote dead?

Sad

[rare swan]

[uneven pewter]

what defines a dead emote

XD

[vestal leaf]

I really like faitlin and she became so much better the more striker became autonomous

[uneven pewter]

yep

[vestal leaf]

If it's not on the server anymore

[uneven pewter]

i don't have nitro so it has to be

OH

[vestal leaf]

Since I hate paid subscriptions

[uneven pewter]

you mean this

[uneven pewter]

this one

[vestal leaf]

This one yes.

[uneven pewter]

i mean i say that about lyrapuff

[vestal leaf]

Lyrapuff is probably worse than mimirola

[uneven pewter]

she is

but h!siebold is also pretty bad too

[rare swan]

yeah the very old seasonals are really just. Not Good

and it doesn't look like they're getting grid expansions any time soon

[vestal leaf]

Summarnie supremacy

[uneven pewter]

this is probably why they leave such a bad taste in my mouth

[vestal leaf]

Only old seasonal that is still fine

[uneven pewter]

tbh i doubt they will

[vestal leaf]

Seasonal have the best outfits = must scout

It's that easy

For me

If I had to monotonously chase only outfits, characters or mons on "worthy" banners I would've uninstalled ages ago because I'd scout legit 3 times a year

I have a lot of faves so suffering is more related to not getting consistently shafted instead of being about meta aging

After all most of my faves can 2v3 even after ages because this game has barely any difficulty increase

[uneven pewter]

well

I blame that because the newbies are slowly replacing the vets

and if you don't think the game is difficult for them, look no further than a new account

XD

[oak crest]

once your acct has aged most stuffs arnt really difficult tho

[uneven pewter]

but in reality i have no idea what the devs are doing

none of the choices they make follow any semblance of a typical dev cycle

[oak crest]

altho this year anni's EBE they really made it difficult without the featured

[ashen thunder]

Seasonals in general age poorly
Since they add "fun gimmicks" in their kit

[uneven pewter]

i never thought they'd waste as much time as they did trying to necro prestige

but here we are

[oak crest]

whereas last year u can still rely on the new BP sophocles to clear

[uneven pewter]

[uneven pewter]

mistyduck helps a lot this EBE

[maiden kayak]

Ohhh I see

[uneven pewter]

but i agree it was a lot more challenging to do a f2p run

[ashen thunder]

This ebe favors very new and very veterans

Middle ground just suffers straight up

[maiden kayak]

seasonals are usually not meta lol

why would u chase for the sake of chasing it @clever oyster

[ashen thunder]

Most meta seasonal is zone setter
Coz there's 0 competition

[oak crest]

true

[ashen thunder]

Even then firis got replaced immediately the moment oleana happened

[oak crest]

or seasonal supports

[clever oyster]

...but I am not chasing for the sake of meta here?

[oak crest]

since most supports age well

[ashen thunder]

Eh, a lot of seasonal supports are average at best

[maiden kayak]

then what do u want

[uneven pewter]

NY!Lisia being a rare exception

[clever oyster]

...I'm not sure what you mean with a question like that

[uneven pewter]

and that was short lived

[crisp oracle]

HJasmine is a really good unit

[uneven pewter]

agreed

but most seasonal supports age well

save for H!Hilda

[oak crest]

[uneven pewter]

nothing could save that gimmicky kit

[oak crest]

i dont even like her kit the moment she was out

[maiden kayak]

tfw this year strikers are better than supports

[ashen thunder]

Wdym

Pallow was okay

[maiden kayak]

Pallow was generic support

[uneven pewter]

i mean it's true mallowton was "okay"

I still have her but she's a big puddle of "Meh"

[ashen thunder]

Special supports gated behind limiteds

[crisp oracle]

Halloween Iris is a good kit, but half of the limited poison dps dealers are physical

she's special leaning

[uneven pewter]

main reason i never grabbed her

[ashen thunder]

When best non limited special support is sycamore

Meanwhile physical eating good with Sonia, Hilbert, Shauna

[uneven pewter]

i mean he's still a damn good support lol

[maiden kayak]

actually i will argue even summer liza is meta

[ashen thunder]

Not when I have to wait 3 turns without ramp

[uneven pewter]

hey they might give us a pittance with the Scar/Violet trainers

[maiden kayak]

thats why u have supports

[uneven pewter]

tbh I forgot the two of them were a thing

[maiden kayak]

she can just giga impact the rest of the turns anyway

[ashen thunder]

She can just giga impact from start

[maiden kayak]

tate is just whatever

[ashen thunder]

Coz physical supports just set up instantly

[uneven pewter]

but we'll have neutral god palmer ready to save the newbies of all ages

[maiden kayak]

yea actually

i think ||palmer is the best unit in the datamine||

[uneven pewter]

which let's be real, palmer gets worse in terms of ROI the longer you have been playing

[ashen thunder]

Palmer and hugh together making top 10 comp in the game

Not rly

[uneven pewter]

we can agree to disagree

[crisp oracle]

Palmer is a Hugh that won't recoil itself out

[maiden kayak]

just because ||he offers great offtype unit in dmg||

[ashen thunder]

Palmer+hugh > zygarde+ lucas imo

[uneven pewter]

|| Zapdos ||

[ashen thunder]

For offtype

[maiden kayak]

offtping is the trend now

[ashen thunder]

It's disgusting damage

[uneven pewter]

Literally the dumbest thing i have seen in pomas to date

[maiden kayak]

SE up is stale and outdated

[ashen thunder]

Like if I were to arrange top elemental comps
Normal would be in ez top 10

[rare swan]

off-typing meta

[crisp oracle]

Zapdos?

[maiden kayak]

units like that aged like sour grapes

[rare swan]

[crisp oracle]

With Zapdos being a support it's gonna be a log ass time before someone is better than him

He's SS Kris, SSA, and SS Morty rolled into one

Healing, SMUN, Defensive Tank, etc

[uneven pewter]

with a damage weakness typing that is not common in any content unless it's a specific trainer

[maiden kayak]

high score

[rare swan]

Anyway reminder that you don't need those birds

[ashen thunder]

Wtf

I need ccalem

[rare swan]

[ashen thunder]

Else I cant play the game

[maiden kayak]

Ohhhi like this team

[ashen thunder]

[uneven pewter]

curious team

[uneven pewter]

i mean there's not really a need for anything

[rare swan]

a fun team made up of 100% faves

[uneven pewter]

that's sorta my biggest lament

[crisp oracle]

Hey, tank in center!

@ Dreamy

[ashen thunder]

I love how ice went from worst typing to best typing in just 2 months time

[rare swan]

now you know they don't put them in order

[uneven pewter]

is that they haven't put out new content that takes advantage of a wider roster

[maiden kayak]

very true birds are unnecessary

[rare swan]

[maiden kayak]

so does ccalem

[uneven pewter]

hold up

[rare swan]

yah maybe i'll try with a free support

[uneven pewter]

WHEN DID THIS EMOTE ARRIVE

[ashen thunder]

Should have used Shauna

[uneven pewter]

oh -.-

it's not a server emote

and it NEEDS TO BE

[crisp oracle]

how good is spiky shield damage for ontype

[ashen thunder]

Shit

[rare swan]

i can ask the graphics coord who made it but for now it's from a private server, yes

[uneven pewter]

bleh

that's right up there with

in terms of hilarity

[clever oyster]

alright, so...from the top of my head, I already have, like

3 seasonal alts where I really REALLY like the trainer, but don't particularly care for the Pokémon attached to the trainer

[uneven pewter]

well

this is a classic case of not being able to have your cake and eat it too

[clever oyster]

one in Halloween (Caitlin), and two in New Year (Hilda and Sabrina)

[rare swan]

same artist

[rare swan]

well you're likely going to be tested with Caitlin next month

[crisp oracle]

||I assume Caitlin is gonna rerun next month... in a six-featured pair hell banner||

0.33% what the hell

[uneven pewter]

For free gems yes

[clever oyster]

...yeah, come to think of it, when it comes to whenever I should focus on the trainer or the Pokémon in PoMa, I always get different answers every time I ask the question

[uneven pewter]

Otherwise suffer the paid gem tax those are your options unfortunately

[clever oyster]

sometimes, I get told to focus on the Pokémon I like, some other times, I get told to focus on the Trainers I like

[uneven pewter]

Everyone has different opinions

[rare swan]

that's a personal decision that no one else can make for you

[crisp oracle]

For me I focus on the trainer but if you hate a Pokemon so much I wouldn't pull for it regardless of trainer

[uneven pewter]

Mine usually is a balance between faves and what does the pair do for you

[ashen thunder]

If you are F2P
Don't have more than 2-3 rerun priorities in first place

[clever oyster]

oh, I have more than 2-3 rerun priorities

[ashen thunder]

3 pity itself takes 5 months to save

[clever oyster]

[uneven pewter]

I mean

That depends on spike months

December January February all tend to be heavy in terms of gems

Then march and may tend to be dry

June gets a bump

Then july is usually dry

[maiden kayak]

now that isnt the case anymore i feel

[uneven pewter]

August and September got a bit gipped this year

[maiden kayak]

dena is sneakily reducing the gem count

[uneven pewter]

Wlel

[ashen thunder]

Well I usually assume average 23-24k gems

Per month

[maiden kayak]

actually tho

as long as u follow 1 banner a month , generally u should be able to save imo

provided u have avg luck

some ppl just choose 2 banners in a month, thats why they cant save gems

[uneven pewter]

I haven’t had much luck at all sadly last couple of months

Burnt it all on rose and oleana

Bottom line is i am already setting savings goals

[maiden kayak]

thats the problem

[ashen thunder]

This year was painful for me

[maiden kayak]

2 banners in a month

[vestal leaf]

I mean that's true for most gachas

[ashen thunder]

Last year after rats, I pretty much didn't roll till December

Then now I had almost rolled every month

Only skipped half anni

[uneven pewter]

I’ve somehow managed to keep up with the masters fairs

[ashen thunder]

And now I want NC trio and no gems
So will likely roll reruns

[uneven pewter]

Well

[crisp oracle]

||I'm hoping NC bede reruns soon, his kit seems cool||

[uneven pewter]

Nc trio will likely rerun at next years NY

[uneven pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[crisp oracle]

I've gotten to the point I'd ||rather pull a support for a character I don't like rather than a striker for a character I don't like||

[vestal leaf]

To be fair they've been making kits more enticing lately

[crisp oracle]

I've regreted pulling strikers, I've never regretted pulling on supports before

[vestal leaf]

Way more gimmicks that didn't monopolize the overall integrity of the unit

[ashen thunder]

I hate Dena for giving Anabel and pelesa shit kit

While entire year was a massive powercreep

[vestal leaf]

I actually like pelesa kit loo

It's funny

Shit but funny

[crisp oracle]

but content isn't powercrept so

old units can still clear content

[ashen thunder]

Yea well

Counterpoint

Kanto ebe

[tawny cedar]

You can't call that content powercreep

[dreamy onyx]

checking my roster I don't have any new striker except for the MF, they released too many tech and supports, and striker most of the time age pretty bad

[tawny cedar]

Its designed with only 3 fucking units it mind

[crisp oracle]

Supports age really well

Techs, it depends on the kit

pure strikers age horribly,

[tawny cedar]

The point of the ebe is to make as unclearable as possible to sell you the units

[ashen thunder]

Strikers age well if they are serena or red

[uneven pewter]

Next masters rerun i am betting after zerena will be either calem or sereninja

[vestal leaf]

Kanto ebe was developed with 3 insanely powerful units in mind tbh

Most EBEs aren't designed like that

Also, that's "only" 600 gems

Missing an ebe won't change your account's economy

[crisp oracle]

all three gimmicks rolled into one

wtf

[uneven pewter]

I mean

[tawny cedar]

Too early tbh

[uneven pewter]

They got cheap instead of trying to give us 1800 gems

[tawny cedar]

I think it will be lussa

[uneven pewter]

She ran in may

[ashen thunder]

Well they can do similar ebes

[tawny cedar]

Oh

[vestal leaf]

We'll see

[ashen thunder]

The recent galar ebes were also fairly harder than ebes before

[vestal leaf]

Ehhh

[crisp oracle]

Galar EBEs were cake compared to this hell

[uneven pewter]

I am just going by who all has ran

[crisp oracle]

at least that had a good gen pool support and damage dealer

[ashen thunder]

I had to shove in rats
Pure galar run felt like hell

[vestal leaf]

Karen powerboost, Bea and mew2 were able to clear iirc

[crisp oracle]

Galar EBE at least had typeboost

[tawny cedar]

Galar was pretty easy if you had betha and sonia

[crisp oracle]

this one is only Kanto

[upbeat lotus]

its funny that the easiest EBE and the hardest EBE are both Kanto

[uneven pewter]

Unless they break tradition and rerun one of the anni masters fairs

[vestal leaf]

Oh you mean the VA ones?

[crisp oracle]

the hardest Battle Challenge is Alola

VA

[ashen thunder]

I said recent
Why would you assume NC ebe

[crisp oracle]

change my mind

[ashen thunder]

Even NC ebe, piers was a beast

[clever oyster]

...I should probably get back to the "Pokémon Focus vs Trainer Focus" question closer to the end of the ||SC Rosa|| banner...

[ashen thunder]

It was only doable coz they allowed another typing

[vestal leaf]

Because last 8 months flew by

[crisp oracle]

ah yes Lyra EBE considered the Latios of EBEs

[tawny cedar]

Ethan didn't really have any gimmicks

[crisp oracle]

rain

[ashen thunder]

Ethan sets sun

So you remove it

[tawny cedar]

Ethan as in the unit

[vestal leaf]

Dude it's easy

How much of a fave is the Mon?

How important is the Mon compared to the character for you?

Do you like, hate or don't care about the character?

Balance the answers and decide

[tawny cedar]

He didn't have any gimmicks for the Lyra ebe to abuse

[vestal leaf]

It's not something we can decide for you lmao

[uneven pewter]

Literally the only pairs that haven’t ran this year

[tawny cedar]

He's just a nice flying striker

[uneven pewter]

In terms of reruns

[clever oyster]

and yet it's hard for me to decide myself, too...

[uneven pewter]

Speaking purely 2023

[maiden kayak]

forget reruns

[vestal leaf]

It's never easy for anyone lol

[maiden kayak]

reruns are bottlenecks of saving

[ashen thunder]

Watch it be Archie rerun next month

[uneven pewter]

Well that was more me speculating october and novembers reruns

[vestal leaf]

Again?

[oak crest]

seasonal reruns are a pain to get ngl since their rates are abysmal

[crisp oracle]

The Favourites/Pokemon Favourites is a decision you have to make yourself. It's not easy, but if you are having long, long debates over it over several days it might be time to reduce that list down

[uneven pewter]

Since i am assuming it will be anni red and anni cynthia in new years

With no ash rerun

[maiden kayak]

thats why forget reruns

u running at high opportunity cost for reruns

[oak crest]

yea

[tawny cedar]

I only need to get 2 reruns and I'm done

[maiden kayak]

its like a debt

[ashen thunder]

Reruns in general are hard to chase

[maiden kayak]

u pay more to get the same thing later

[uneven pewter]

Well yea

[ashen thunder]

Seasonals and costumes are the worst one to go for

Even at that

[uneven pewter]

Because you’re always competing against the latest shiny new thing

[upbeat lotus]

just like me save a pity for their rerun
||i was able to get all past Palentine units in a pity||

[vestal leaf]

Only Rerun copium that is worth it is for triple fair with 3 faves/highly liked units

[tawny cedar]

I think farty will be the last rerun ill have to get

[ashen thunder]

If you have a seasonal fav, better to forget they exist

[crisp oracle]

how self sustainable is Raihan at 1/5

[uneven pewter]

Not very

[tawny cedar]

I can never forget farty and scjasmine

[uneven pewter]

He’s actually pretty dook at 1:5

[ashen thunder]

+4 spl atk, +2 crit
So yea bring your best gauge support

[crisp oracle]

so im getting him just for lodge rewards

[uneven pewter]

I know because mine is at 1:5

[crisp oracle]

that's fine with me

[clever oyster]

I don't think i can do that, I'm afraid 😦

[vestal leaf]

He's autonomous and sustain himself decently, just meh damage

And bad gauge

[ashen thunder]

You are not buying paid gems

[crisp oracle]

is there a special version of Hilbert

[clever oyster]

Yeah

[ashen thunder]

Without paid selects, seasonal rerun is hell

[crisp oracle]

Special Attack, Crit, Speed

[tawny cedar]

Sabrina

And like 5 other supports

[oak crest]

||NC blue||

[clever oyster]

Yeah, but sadly, they are a necessary hell for me...

[oak crest]

[tawny cedar]

Lodge morty

[crisp oracle]

oh I have Lorty

[tawny cedar]

falkner

[crisp oracle]

also is there a time when you would ever use Rock Slide or Dragon Rush on Raihan

[oak crest]

if u can go without crit buff, lodge dawn

[tawny cedar]

Falkner could be very op if he had more speed buffs

[oak crest]

i use her pretty often tbh

[upbeat lotus]

well we have a decent amount of SpAtk Crit Speed supports, but the only one who has the same buffing speed as Hilbert is only ||NC Blue||

[ashen thunder]

Yes rockslide at 5/5

[tawny cedar]

+4 Atk +4 SpA +3 Crit +2 Speed and Flinch 60%

[vestal leaf]

Based

[tawny cedar]

I need sc rerun so bad

If i get farty and jasmine I'm free of reruns

[upbeat lotus]

good news ||we have sc selects coming up||

[ashen thunder]

I pretty much removed all my rerun priorities except MFs

[oak crest]

its a big question mark if they will rerun pokewar banner

[tawny cedar]

Bad news || I spent my last 3k on the other jasmine ||

[oak crest]

☠️

[tawny cedar]

Trading jasmine for jasmine

[vestal leaf]

I never skipped a MF I wanted so I don't worry about those for now

Depending on how Palmer goes I might skip blue for now tho

[tawny cedar]

I think I'll have to skip farty again if blue takes me to pity

Even if he reruns in mid oct I can't pity him

[ashen thunder]

Well I am only rolling the ice bird this time coz I hate ghetsis face

Tho I am just waiting to amass gems as of now

[tawny cedar]

I think we might get a free sc rerun this year

I really got to save for that chance

[lapis pine]

I do not think so

[ashen thunder]

Maybe next half anni selector is SCunits

Free selector*

[upbeat lotus]

||SC Rosa also reruns this month ||

[lapis pine]

Lmao forgot about that

[ashen thunder]

Who were the first SC batch?

[lapis pine]

Most forgettable rerun ever

[upbeat lotus]

PokeWar set

[oak crest]

pokewar

[ashen thunder]

Ah

[upbeat lotus]

Diantha, Hilda, Guzma and Jasmine

[ashen thunder]

OK so those aren't getting free selector for another 2 years

[oak crest]

[vestal leaf]

Especially now that he even has a freebie to enable him if you're missing irida

[ashen thunder]

Well I have irida

[vestal leaf]

Me too

[tawny cedar]

I love my sssilver

[ashen thunder]

I was waiting for hisui units for a while so I didn't miss em

[tawny cedar]

Wonder when we'll get paldea

[vestal leaf]

||Can't wait to try irida red Dana for the first ice weak offregion Ebe tbfh||

[ashen thunder]

Good thing I am not interested in paldea units so they are ez skip

[tawny cedar]

I have no idea about sv at all

Ive not even seen a playthrough

[vestal leaf]

I refuse to get another leafeon + I like irida more than adaman + grass is oversaturated+ L + ratio

[hard wave]

There’s still a few units id like from 2020/2021 so im fine w pokefair ones; cblue > redlax > gloria/steven for lodge

Older seasonals would be nice tho

[ashen thunder]

I doubt them putting cblue

[uncut comet]

I would like do have some 4stars units from Paldea, so I could address eventual missions with a little gem cost

[hard wave]

[ashen thunder]

I don't see any selector crossing Lear batch

[hard wave]

I want a non olivia rock striker

[vestal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-the-misery-enemy-cat-sprigatito-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-gif-26114833

[ashen thunder]

Just use

Well actually

[hard wave]

[ashen thunder]

They can put cblue in selector

[oak crest]

Cblue is a non Olivia rock striker

[ashen thunder]

But I doubt Lear and ssleon would be in there

[tawny cedar]

Cblue feels too good for them to put in the select yet

[vestal leaf]

Oh thanks @ashen thunder I wanted to test run him against sentry entryx2 malva

I forgot

[tawny cedar]

Cblue still has some insane rock damage with hb

Doubt they'd give it up for free

[ashen thunder]

Well cblue has mediocre nuke and alder level dps pre sync

[hard wave]

Wait kanto VA is post lear

[ashen thunder]

He's not as strong if you are minmaxing comps

He's good when you throw in a 2nd dps striker

But otherwise ehh....

[tawny cedar]

They waited until raihan and Marnie were completely obscured from the meta before giving them for free

Cblue is still holding up slightly in meta

[ashen thunder]

Raihan isn't completely obscured lol

Hes still higher ST damage than rose

It's just extend range is dumb passive

[hard wave]

2020- lance, steven, gloria
2021- champ iris, the bros, lear, ss leon, cblue, redlax, and celesa

Id like cblue > redlax > the bros > steven/gloria for lodge

[ashen thunder]

I can see cblue, redlax and train Bros in selector

Lear and ssleon has insane gimmicks so I doubt em putting in a free selector

Also
Rose outperforms cblue in rock dps as well

If you consider raihan as obscured

[vestal leaf]

My alder still clears 2v3 bug weak presync so that's not bad DPS and his nuke is decent

[ashen thunder]

It's not bad
But it's not busted either

[hard wave]

Wait I could use raihan for rock dps he’s 3/5

And if I need to sync ill use ss diantha

[ashen thunder]

We got higher level power
Eventho it's irrelevant for most content

[hard wave]

Hmmm….

[vestal leaf]

Yeah but tbh alder is super nice for a 2020 unit

[ashen thunder]

Well alder is nice for a free selector in general

I still can't believe they tried to give him twice

and I still don't have him

[hard wave]

I chose him, cynthia, and N

[vestal leaf]

His 1/5 is solid and his 2/5 basically gives what his 3/5 used to give

[hard wave]

But once || I have SS Hilbert || ill prob ditch him

[vestal leaf]

Me, using them together to 2v3:

[ashen thunder]

I picked 5/5 cynthia instead of him

Since I already have escavalier

[hard wave]

Fair

[vestal leaf]

I got SS Hilbert just as a future proof enabler

[ashen thunder]

Well I don't rly care abt ontype much either

[vestal leaf]

For multi types

[ashen thunder]

[hard wave]

I hope he gets into lodge one day, bcz free selects r good for lodge pairs thats why I got cynthia and N

[ashen thunder]

If I considered ontyping, I'd have picked him

This time I had to pick Marnie

Since both my zekrom and raihan are already 3/5

I rly didn't want to pick her

But 4/5 is ugly number

[hard wave]

I want to 3/5 my marnie bcz she’s my only 2/5 limited

[ashen thunder]

If only ticket had gloria

Why Dena

[vestal leaf]

I mean we got a Gloria freebie some time ago no

[hard wave]

But free lodge unit > dupe besides her everyone is either 1/5 or 3/5, and my 5/5 ss blue

[ashen thunder]

Yea but I wanted 5/5 cynthia more

[hard wave]

Another one

[ashen thunder]

[vestal leaf]

What does 5/5 cyn get?

Over 4/5

[ashen thunder]

I just did it coz cynthia

[hard wave]

Free quarterly selects plz biannually is too little

[ashen thunder]

She doesn't gain anything useful

I still use whatever grid I use for 3/5

[hard wave]

This was like 3 months before 5/5 grids unless they mean the 2nd select

[ashen thunder]

I missed first select

Coz I didn't login for few months due to internship

That's why I didn't have ssmay for a year

[vestal leaf]

I got 4/5 just to get footage of all her slash multipliers proccing

[vestal leaf]

Like come on it's so funny

[ashen thunder]

Wtf
Not WW3

[vestal leaf]

Yeah I had cs2 since 0.5

Not changing it just for a minuscule extra

Plus cs2 helps since I did ran her sandless for 2v3 CSMM sometime

With zone

[ashen thunder]

Well I just threw in WW3 on her since I don't rly run her without sand

[uneven pewter]

|| NC blue is probably the most egregious power creep support we have ever seen. Even Morty Oh and bulu rola don’t come close to the absurdly quick buff cycle he has. Omni buff defenses, speed and maxing crit and spt attack while also having two charges of full restore is pretty bonkers. ||

[ashen thunder]

We already had ccalem doc

[upbeat lotus]

NC Blue is on another level tho

[ashen thunder]

It's not surprising at that point

[uneven pewter]

Cc calem wishes he even came close to || bluedos ||

[ashen thunder]

You never rly need full set of offensive buffs for most units

[uneven pewter]

I mean I thought cynthcario was a good unit

Not too crazy

Did a lot

Omni buff defenses

Crit support ramp

Potions

[maiden kayak]

anyways

why are we even discusssing kits here

doubt its appropriate here in the first place

[uneven pewter]

Not sure I’ll be quiet now

[versed flame]

fun little gem zenning project i came up with. before pulling for a limited pair, i have to do an artwork of them first. this ensures that i only pull people that i actually like + increases my investment/hype

||did one for NC blue!||

somewhat solves situations like a few months ago when i was tempted by Tate and Jirachi solely for Jirachi (successfully avoided but it was hard)

[uneven pewter]

Not a bad idea

I just play other games

That’s the best cure for fomo

[versed flame]

true lol, i just like drawing anyway. it's not really that hard to skip pairs so it's half an art prompt list too

[vestal leaf]

Yeah sure but bulurola actually gives 2 environmental multipliers plus a ton of pmun, while blue gives a fuckton of general utility but only elec rebuff

||I find him less stupid than red ||

[uneven pewter]

|| Red goes brrrrrrrrrrrrt ||

I looked at that kit and went

|| Whelp this is going to age like a fine wine, those are mechanics that even nc marnie would drool over ||

[crisp oracle]

Strikers age like milk

Other strikers get better

[vestal leaf]

Some strikers will never be bad because powercreep was only really noticeable 5-6 times since launch lol

And so even ssred stays decent

After 3+ years

[idle shard]

Speaking of damage dealers
I have made a realisation that SC Steven and Argenta work well together
Attack buffs, crit buffs, defence debuffs, +10 PMUN, SEUM, and -1 rebuff
But I don’t think that’s a good enough reason to pull on the Special Costume Select banner

[vestal leaf]

Tbfh with SC Steven you can run dual strike and stage just dies

[ashen thunder]

Strikers only age well when they have good all around stuff

Someone like NCred would age like milk if they release more smun supports

< 400 atk and 200 BP moment

[idle shard]

Well looking at Argenta I wouldn’t be surprised if they eventually added a Nasty Plot unit that buff ally SMUN

[ashen thunder]

It's also part reason why SSred never seems to fall down

Man has 550+ atk 220 BP

And you can count with fingers for how many units actually cross 500 atk and 200 BP

Coz they rarely release that level stuff

[idle shard]

Yeah, which is only making it more difficult for me to decide if I should pull or skip

[idle shard]

Indeed, usually they release that stuff for somewhat special occasions (anniversary or Neo Champion event)

[ashen thunder]

I mean even anni and NC events are hit and miss for those stuff

Looks at anni 2

NCs are recent and only has 2 strikers
And I am psure carnie will age better than NCred

Coz busted stats and BP to scale well with future smun supports

[idle shard]

Indeed, I would have to agree with you on that

[vestal leaf]

I hate his outfit and his Mon so

Ez skip

Even if he was the most broken unit ever

[vestal leaf]

I think both are silly because of protect and staggering capabilities

Sure red damage cap is lower but his sync compensates

[ashen thunder]

Eh idk
Units with low stats don't tend to stay around unless they drop a buff

[vestal leaf]

Well to be fair S&P moves +50% in hail + irida is already enough to carry NC red for at least 2 years

Imo

It's not like Anni N

[ashen thunder]

Well it's also far into future
Considering the pacing of how often they release rebuff and zone stuff, red would remain meta for atleast 1 year

[vestal leaf]

Yeah minimum

[ashen thunder]

Well anni N was the sad situation
He was good on release but he didn't keep up with increasing power level due to low stats

Same for smth like Archie

Which is part reason whenever I see < 400 atk its kind of a questionable unit

[idle shard]

Right, there is probably three forms of broken
Broken in general (NC Blue, SS Lyra, SST Red)
Broken for specific niches (Ingo, NY Lisia, SS Hau)
Screenshot fodder (impractical but can help produce impressive damage numbers for screenshots)

[ashen thunder]

Too bad ingo not broken anymore

[vestal leaf]

SS Lyra isn't "broken" in general imo

It's just a silly infinite stun unit

[idle shard]

So SS Lyra is more specific niche of flinch stalling rather than broken in general

[vestal leaf]

But her damage and sync are kinda meh

[ashen thunder]

I generally find flinch in itself meh

Coz best way to clear content is dpsing down

Not staying up several minutes with sweaty hands

Ig LG people would disagree but idk

I just feel staying long to clear content is not good

[idle shard]

SS Lyra and SS Acerola is a great combo
Lyra flinches whilst SS Acerola provides grassy terrain every sync

[ashen thunder]

Why do that when you can bring SSErika with bulu and sweep

[idle shard]

We need V Leafeon with Green Thumb then

[ashen thunder]

Bruh
Not another variety

I hate variety

[idle shard]

Yeah, Variety banners are terrible

I find it interesting how my gem spending habits have changed over time from launch
At the start of launch I mainly pulled damage dealing units (mainly strikers)
Then slowly went on to pull support units such as Ingo and SS Morty
And now about half the previous couple of new limited units I have pulled have been debuffers (V Agatha, V Kiawe, Oriana, NC Leaf)
Sometimes I have to ask myself “am I pulling this unit because it will be helpful for future team builds, or am I pulling it in the hopes of getting a high damage screen shot to brag about”

[sand crown]

They really do change over time. It becomes less about team building and more about faves that may not necessarily be the best at what they do. Easier to save with that mindset

[ashen thunder]

It's more like they didn't release much supports at the start

They only started tech infestation like past 2 years and supports infestation like 7-8 months

[idle shard]

Well luckily for me I got my fav since launch if my username didn’t already hint at that
But I did have a list of units that were on my “to pull” list
4 units (preferably support), each setting it’s own weather on sync every sync (3/4 complete)
AoE debuffer for each stat (complete with NC Leaf and V Kiawe being amazing AoE debuffers)
Enough support units that I could be able to max out any 2 specific stats on a team using 1 unit pre-sync (complete)

[ashen thunder]

Cant wait for inevitable sprint and field infestation

Field should start with paldea

[idle shard]

Just give V Lyra Support EX Role and I will have completed my “weather on every sync” quadruple set
Unless DeNA decide to give SS Hau Support EX Role and I will feel compelled to want a Weird World support unit that is more gauge friendly than SS Lana ^^;

[sand crown]

There will be more crossover between other roles, especially with EX roles now a thing

But ultimately it’s easier for longtimers to say “well I already have units that can do that job”

[idle shard]

The best combos are likely
Tech and Strike
Field and Support
Support and Sprint

[bleak falcon]

Any damage-dealer who wants to take 1st Sync will hope that DeNA gives them Support EX Role, though

[uneven pewter]

|| i mean… nc red has 394 special attack at 150 so with theme bonuses and self buffs it will never be a real issue especially with self buffing special attack up even with the low bp moves. x He also has multipliers on his grid unlike N and Archie who archie especially just has terribad nodes everywhere. N at least gets some decent nodes and utility. ||

[idle shard]

So mainly damage dealing units that mega evolve

[uneven pewter]

Strike and tech id argue would also be pretty fire

[vestal leaf]

Tech with strike ex
Supp with field ex or opposite
Supp with sprint or opposite
Sprint + field all sound fun

Supp ex on most megas is also nice

[idle shard]

Yep, all my tech cakes will go straight to compatible striker units

[bleak falcon]

SS Lusamine and SS Serena as well. SS Serena is fortunately getting Support EX Role

[uneven pewter]

Oh is she

[idle shard]

SS Kris or SS Morty with Field EX for the lols

[vestal leaf]

SS Lusa would be also fun with field lol

[bleak falcon]

That’s probably her best option though, since she needs to take 1st Sync

[uneven pewter]

I am curious what maxie and archie will get since they already have nodes for weather on sync

[idle shard]

I suggest that all units that set sun, rain, terrain, or zone on sync should get support EX

[uneven pewter]

Not disagreeing just already lamenting the slow grind to cakes

[vestal leaf]

Maybe sprint or tech.... Or supp role with primal update

[uneven pewter]

At least cakes will be more consistent than candies

[idle shard]

Archie any role besides Field
Maxie might get field for ground zone so Maxie could get anything

[uneven pewter]

Especially with the new bp dailies

[bleak falcon]

Ah, my bad for misinterpreting then

[crisp oracle]

Would Sycamore get field ex role

[uneven pewter]

Ehhh

Or sprint

[vestal leaf]

Sprint probably

[idle shard]

I like how Paulo’s banner can give support cake coins

[crisp oracle]

Fairy Zone or Grassy Terrain for Horn Leech

[idle shard]

Fairy Zone became sync is Fairy

[uneven pewter]

They had make people somewhat enticed to take the bait

[vestal leaf]

I think field ex is tied to type

[idle shard]

Imagine Sycamore getting striker or tech EX

[bleak falcon]

Field and Sprint are basically Sycamore’s only options, yeah. Unless they wanna give him another Support so he gives 3 Sync buffs instead of just 2

[crisp oracle]

Im giving my first support cake to Zerena

[idle shard]

Yeah, I am holding out hope for V Lyra getting Support EX

[uneven pewter]

Id bank hers will be field

[crisp oracle]

SS Lyra striker

SS Ethan tech

[idle shard]

Ah yes, give rain on sync to the unit with rain on sync

[crisp oracle]

SS Kris Support

[uneven pewter]

We talking about the same lyra

[violet nebula]

Double the support

[uneven pewter]

I meant lyra and celebi

[violet nebula]

4x

[vestal leaf]

Nah I really doubt we're getting double roles

[idle shard]

V Lyra and Vaporeon

[uneven pewter]

Oh the variety

[idle shard]

Oh, yeah, her getting field would be handy

[idle shard]

Not my fault she is the only Rain Caller unit

[vestal leaf]

I hope variety never get shit tbh

[uneven pewter]

I couldn’t care less with varieties, stick them in gen pool or ill never pull

[crisp oracle]

Imagine SS Steven got support cake

Now his Defense form is usable

[vestal leaf]

Same

[vestal leaf]

Or sprint

[violet nebula]

Who is even pulling varieties to keep Dena doing them?🤔

[idle shard]

Tech units I hope get Strike cakes
Challenger Gloria
Any really good Paldean damage dealers

[vestal leaf]

Sprint on defence form would be pretty nice

[vestal leaf]

Ehhhh challenger Gloria sync would be meh spread because no side rebuffs

[idle shard]

Imagine SS Steven gets multiple cakes
But which cake is active depends on the form he is in

[vestal leaf]

Nah

[idle shard]

Agreed

[crisp oracle]

SS Lyra with Field Cake

[idle shard]

For the time being I will treat all Sprint Cakes as “extra adrenaline 3 lucky skill”

At the very least, Strike Cake will open up options for me when more Paldean units get added

[idle shard]

From the cake coins I want most to least would look like so
Support
Strike/Field
Tech/Sprint
Strike and Field would depend on the types of units get Strike or Field EX Role

[deft glen]

Me too

Haven't had a lower gem count ever since ||Johtrio|| first released

I just pray no Serena alt next month

Everything else I'll just skip

And also, my rerun list is now empty - For free gems at least.

Some I might pick in a select, but just that

[uneven pewter]

It’s why even against them being faves i am boycotting the rocket banner

Those units never should have been limited

Let alone varieties

[uneven pewter]

Big doubt of a serena alt

Halloween has thus far given a lot of underrepresented characters

I expect that trend to continue

[deft glen]

Me too. I want to at least build up my savings stash back to at least a pity

Hopefully back to 2. My favorite number

[uneven pewter]

I know i am hard limiting myself going forward on what i pull on

Basically villains or bust

Or grown women

I am already this deep with Cynthia and Diantha

[tough oriole]

Like ||Lillie. She hasn’t gotten a new gacha alt in over a year ||

[idle shard]

I am back to thinking about Argenta and SC Steven
Thinking about if I should even pull either of them or am being influenced by the idea of “+10 PMUN with stat buffs and debuffs to create a huge number for screenshots”

[vestal leaf]

You know single striker with +10 pmun is not better than dual strike with +4/6 team pmun

Scouting just to get funny numbers with broken units ain't worth

[idle shard]

I know that the “+10 PMUN” is impractical and in mainly there for screenshots showing off big damage numbers

[vestal leaf]

I mean yeah

It's funny but how practical is it

[idle shard]

Exactly, and I am not 100% sure if I am wanting Argenta for the support itself or just for the “lol big number”

[vestal leaf]

I don't see her kits appeal much

It's basically skyla with pmun and more buffs

[idle shard]

Yeah
I am not even sure if she works as a better sandstorm tank than Jasmine

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/916852389347196958/1148363843920199810/image0.jpg

Ignoring the screenshot bait, Argenta can buff Attack, Crit, Defence, Speed, and Accuracy

[idle shard]

||I think I have decided to pull Argenta
Just to have a second support unit besides Hilbert that can buff attack, crit, and speed
That way I have two good physical supports for gauntlet||

[tough oriole]

Please spoilertag that

[idle shard]

Ok?

[tough oriole]

||You aren’t supposed to talk about pulling for new units in here ||

[idle shard]

Ah, ok, apologies ^^;

[fallen path]

Yeah just general rule here

[idle shard]

Yeah, don’t want to peer pressure anyone unintentionally

[robust plaza]

Gem count. How much gems will I have by the end of the month?

Or how much gems left to get

[idle shard]

Around 17k presumably

So 29k by the end

[robust plaza]

Plus the 3k rally on 9/29 so 32k

||I really regret accidentally doing a multi to pity nc blue when i was only a single away from pity. ||

[feral vale]

/gems command can tell you. That’s what we have it for.

[sturdy flower]

then 4* units tend to be spoiled on release

[sturdy flower]

she can only buff 3 stacks most times though, the skill will fail once her stat is maxed

[maiden kayak]

dang the paid gems

[torpid prawn]

Argenta & Skarmory

Stat Share 9:

When a status move used by the user's Pokémon raises its stats only, raises the same stats by the same amount for all allied sync pairs instead.

Use Status P-Move: Team Physical Boost ↑1 9:

Increases the Physical Moves ↑ Next effect of all allied sync pairs by 1 rank when the user's Pokémon uses a status move.

Use Status P-Move: Team Accuracy ↑2 9:

Raises the accuracy of all allied sync pairs by 2 stat ranks when the user's Pokémon uses a status move.

Themes:

Steel | Sinnoh | Battle Facility Foe
Grown Woman

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[rancid vale]

wrong its every use it does not specify successful

[lofty forge]

I have a question before going to invest to the game , what date does Daily Gem Bundle EX reset monthly?

Like 30 days per reset or?

[violet nebula]

Resets whenever you buy it

[clever oyster]

Oh yeah, you know what's funny?

[violet nebula]

20 days

[lofty forge]

like after 20 days you can buy it again or?

[clever oyster]

This month actually has a sync pair where I like both the trainer AND the Pokémon attached to the trainer

[violet nebula]

Yes

[clever oyster]

...but he's a fucking Normal-type Strike

[violet nebula]

So... Palmers kit looks pretty solid

[clever oyster]

Still, being a Normal-type Strike is enough of a turn-off for me