#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)

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uneven pewter
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was on the first day

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because the game like a slot machine

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only has so many jackpots for a given time

weary spire
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I don’t know why resetting constantly wouldn’t punish you all the same inherently. It just seems incredibly moronic to run a game like this so easily exploited

tardy fiber
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It shows a higher degree of effort and seriousness than a washroom WulfricKEKW

weary spire
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When you have full power to remove that possible exploitation

fallen path
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Lol, late night overthinking

weary spire
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So yeah, however you pull is pretty much superstition as far as I can see

uneven pewter
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largely because there are laws in place that you have to payout so many jackpots

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and the probability is in the formula

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in the case of gacha

weary spire
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But why does that prevent you from resetting constantly?

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I don’t really follow :/

tardy fiber
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Too much thinking, return to being a regi....un un un bzzt bzzt un un un

uneven pewter
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because the seeds are usually qued and seeded for a period of time

weary spire
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I don’t think a gacha needs to effectively be more exploitable to be valid

uneven pewter
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before the server resets

weary spire
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It can be seconds, right?

uneven pewter
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that is usually internal knowledge only

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if we had any hope of that knowledge

weary spire
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Exactly

uneven pewter
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it was when it was AGES AGO

tardy fiber
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Man, i need to watch Regigigas scene in hoopa movie again, it has funny voice

uneven pewter
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when there was the "naughty" leak

weary spire
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That’s what comments seem to indicate, this could be reset every second for all you know

uneven pewter
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which was backdoored into the official servers

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and that has likely been changed

weary spire
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Which means the post hinges on a total guess at random that it just happens to be more exploitable for, as far as I can see, no reason

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Which seems moronic

uneven pewter
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it comes down to statistics basically

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like back when we all pulled singles

weary spire
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But none of it matters if it resets every second

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For instance

uneven pewter
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i still believe singles are statistically better odds than full rolls

fallen path
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Aren’t there better things to do than to think about something you literally can’t control anyways lol

uneven pewter
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but the issue is the free pull

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you can never out pay the free rolls you miss with single pulls

weary spire
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Nothing wrong with pulling how you want, I just don’t like the idea of convincing other people there’s an exploitable formula on essentially no basis

tardy fiber
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Cannot wait to have 3/5 registeel...tm hit and heal, impervious, +6 def spdef, two types of potions BrandonFlawlessVictory

uneven pewter
weary spire
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Not because the code doesn’t function a particular way, but because that particular way it functions is something you can’t even manipulate in the first place

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But yeah that’s about it

uneven pewter
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that's all it is

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but i will say i have historically

tardy fiber
weary spire
uneven pewter
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had my worst luck on the first days banner drops

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correct

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which we do not have any known variables

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i have always theorized on the hourly reset

weary spire
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So in conclusion, nothing is exploitable as far as anyone knows and unfortunately this means we’re at square 1

uneven pewter
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since i have experimented for my own amusement which hour is best to pull

weary spire
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But with extra coding knowledge for some

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Which is cool ig

uneven pewter
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right at reset is by far the worst in my stats XD

tardy fiber
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Embrace pity, reject luck BedeSmug

rare swan
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Luck ain't a strategy EthanGenius

uneven pewter
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oddly enough my best rates are between 3-6pm

rare swan
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Just a perk CalemRelieved

uneven pewter
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false positives but it's fune to see

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fun*

weary spire
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The next thing to experiment with is which second in the 24h of the day leads to the best rates

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👀

uneven pewter
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i don't have the gems, time nor money to do that

tardy fiber
weary spire
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WhitneySad True

tardy fiber
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Oh Tai, record some 3/5 Dana gameplay later

hard wave
hard wave
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I doubt its true, just curious

uneven pewter
tardy fiber
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My habit is that i always do 1 multi then close app PrycePain then restart, so whatever my unluckiness will pass on to another person that pull

uneven pewter
uneven pewter
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because if there is a seed reset

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it has a delay in some capacity

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i NEVER do back to back pulls

hard wave
tardy fiber
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Daym i shared my secrets PrycePain

uneven pewter
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"Save gems"

tardy fiber
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I already saved till 141k

uneven pewter
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(is the worst about what he preaches)

tardy fiber
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Enough TabithaHehe

uneven pewter
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yea I know you're doing better than me

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i'll have 75k free gems by the end of the month

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but i am skipping almost everything besides blue and the rockets

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i am leaving fate to red and leaf

tardy fiber
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Might have more later because iirc there's cheap paid gems deal

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Same value as welcome ash

uneven pewter
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ohohohohoh

tardy fiber
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I might grab the 1k

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10k still too expensive

uneven pewter
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i mean

weary spire
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If you want to experiment down to the second
||Record the exact second you pull something 1st multi, then wait for the exact second of next reset to pull again

… Except, while I don’t know anything about coding, can that not just be reshuffled each reset following some formula we’re not privy to, maybe? In which case unless the entire system is laid bare, I think we wouldn’t get anywhere (this bit is actually blind speculation)||

uneven pewter
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what was the 10k last year?

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$ cost that is

tardy fiber
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I forgot, but i doubt its cheaper than buying orb bundle EX 3 times

hard wave
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Simply get hired at DeNA and program ur account to get 5 copies first multi

tardy fiber
weary spire
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I suppose I’ll continue to save gems until I’m hired by DeNA, to be safe until then

tardy fiber
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DeNa naming it roll cakes simply because it give additional role

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Very punny

hard wave
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I would give myself 99,999 skill spheres, 200k more sync orbs maybe, and a like 500 PUs

hard wave
hard wave
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Im glad they give us free tickets for BP, I have about 5.5k BP rn so it’ll take a while before I get a masterfair ticket

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Ill use the free one for dana and that one for registeel, then save for next anni

tardy fiber
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I already grid every pair i have

hard wave
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I wish we got more 4* support and tech candies tho LarryDead Ill have 7 4 star tickets

hard wave
tardy fiber
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Oh right so i need to grid 8 new pairs today

hard wave
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Since I upgrade all pairs with EX and then max them, but the ungridded ones r 4 stars

tardy fiber
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Lodge leaf wont be today as she need some time to unlock

hard wave
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Dana
4 BPs
N
Lodge N & Leaf

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So thats 8 pairs, oh and shauna if I can get her from kalos tickets

tardy fiber
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Dana, Registeel, 4 4* BP, ||NcRed and Victor from 5k fair select||

hard wave
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|| ur getting victor? For lodge jic? ||

tardy fiber
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Also because no lodge steven for me next month

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Well 4/5 N at least

hard wave
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LarryDead I thought it’d be all 6 tbh

tardy fiber
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Same

hard wave
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Oh well, I was most likely going for N tbh

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Missing steven and gloria as well

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Oh and adaman, prob wont get him

tardy fiber
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At least the other select scout is a skip, i dont think i will ever need anniraihan...only base pairs are needed to unlock lodge

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Annimay and anniskyla already 3/5

slate ether
tardy fiber
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At least i know a way now, i will 2/5 all of my non MF faves in order...fair select pool are at random so due to this, it will make it easier for me to 3/5 them via select

hard wave
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Isnt it kind of low that the ones u want will be in them tho? And they seem to happen 2-3 times a year

tardy fiber
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Yep, but if it happens like this time that there's fair select but all of my faves in it already 3/5

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So if NY select that have 2 tapus appear in 2 different select scouts, i can grab both

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As all of em are 2/5

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If i 3/5 one before moving to another pair, and suddenly a select scout appear that only have that 3/5 pair, i already cannot grab that select scout

hard wave
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LarryDead save paid gems ig

tardy fiber
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Like seasonal select, for now its useless to me because i already 3/5 smliza and smtate fast

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If i make em both 2/5, i can grab next seasonal select

hard wave
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Id like to go for || anni skyla and ss brendan || but losing my f2p status RedNah

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Also gems r expensive LarryDead

tardy fiber
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Kinda why i only buy the cheapest the 20 day orb deal

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Even that, will give me 9k paid gems every 2 months

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So 54k paid in a year

hard wave
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Fair, but it takes a while

tardy fiber
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And just like you said that select only happens couple of times a year

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So it will be enough

hard wave
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True

tardy fiber
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Well no rush, some pairs are usable even at 1/5

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For now i will prioritize MF first as MF select are not available

hard wave
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Problem is it’d end up a waste if none of them have reruns I want BrycenOTL

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Ill just hope for some good multi banners w the reruns I want SabrinaPray

tardy fiber
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Kinda why i plan to make all of my faves 2/5 first, so that to avoid select with none of i need in it appears

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If all are 2/5 so high chance i will need the select

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So i plan to make my 1/5 sshilda, sslana, eusine all to 2/5 instead of 3/5 sshilda and then work for the next one

hard wave
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Makes sense, if I was going to do a select id do for 1/5

tardy fiber
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Currently,
Striker: 1/5 sshilda, 1/5 sslana, 1/5 eusine
Tech: none
Support: 2/5 ssmina, 1/5 ssacerola

hard wave
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Ooo not bad

tardy fiber
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And this month will add more

hard wave
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Oh right LarryDead

tardy fiber
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4 more

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Thats why i just gonna 2/5 if they are not MF

hard wave
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What about registeel and regice

tardy fiber
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I can 3/5 1 via rainbow ticket and 2/5 the other one

mental skiff
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1h30minBarryPogChamp

tardy fiber
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So i only need 1 support candy

hard wave
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Oh nice

tardy fiber
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Because like this month its +2990 bp

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So like monthly its +3k on average

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So a year means 36k bp

hard wave
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I think I can get registeel in october/november

tardy fiber
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So thats 3 rainbow tix

mental skiff
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I confirm

tardy fiber
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And probably i can save 1 for next anniv

mental skiff
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I had 3 pair

hard wave
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2990 starts this reset right?

tardy fiber
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Yep

mental skiff
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it count from 26th?

hard wave
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8450 is what I should end at

hard wave
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This one starts 28th+

mental skiff
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I dunno

lapis pine
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Wait why? Was this in the dev letter?

tardy fiber
tough oriole
lapis pine
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That’s so hype

mental skiff
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WulfricKEKW free 2 rosa dupe

lapis pine
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Omg that’s amazing

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Is it most likely just gonna be story pairs?

mental skiff
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Bingo refresh and master day exchange

tough oriole
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Rosa dupe: RedNah
New clothes colour: BlueYea

hard wave
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Will we be able to get the free pokefair this reset or do we have to wait

mental skiff
hard wave
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Also blue outfit is my fav one so glad abt that

hard wave
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Hopefully not tho PrycePain

tough oriole
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And even then, you could just skip out on the codexes and stuff if needed

mental skiff
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CobalionSquint only 40

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If they make each 21 pika sticker

maiden kayak
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save and skip anni

lapis pine
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Bro does not know you can redo the battle

maiden kayak
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halloween units have better design for sure

hard wave
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1 stage is 40 pika stickers

tardy fiber
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All of that free resources lost every month

round light
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Are we getting any free gems today reset?

mental skiff
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I still have some gear that need to exchange tho so pika sticker is scarcity resource now

mental skiff
tardy fiber
mental skiff
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CobalionSquint huh really?

hard wave
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Its not poma day rn so

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And yes u can play it as much as u want on the poma day reset

tardy fiber
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I usually clear poma day shop in like 7 co-op runs

mental skiff
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I always farm only once eversince i started the game

tardy fiber
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Or is it 9

mental skiff
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Imagine how many resource i lost

hard wave
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I usually go for everything but the gear since mine r all maxed out

hard wave
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So if u dont need that then ur fine

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Oh theme and sync orbs too

mental skiff
tardy fiber
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I even grabbed the gear SophoKEK because i like to see my shop empty

hard wave
mental skiff
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Imgine spending 200 stamina grinding level cap area for 50 codex

tardy fiber
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I only farm during stamina rally and bonanza but there's none this month

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It will have bonus drop

hard wave
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I grind events for what I want then I do theme skill area

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I have like 26 left for 5 stars, and so many new pairs this month BrycenOTL

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I hope october is a skip month

mental skiff
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Rally always happen on VA or weird gatcha reward event tho so i have to farm for them

mental skiff
hard wave
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They ran the rally this month for so long but at the same 4 pair up events and johto VA LarryDead

hard wave
tardy fiber
hard wave
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Sync and theme skill orbs + 5 star powerups r prob the resources I need most rn

hard wave
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Im fine on lvl cap items (need sprint and field drinks tho, but dont want any rn to use them on nor plan to get any this month), im fine with cookies and scrolls, and candies well cant rlly grind them ig

hard wave
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Then went back to 5/5 him and do the other pair up events for iSilverPowerUp

mental skiff
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I already maxed out all pair only 5 * pu and 4 * pu need

hard wave
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Oh yeah need 4 star PUs too, I have 180 now but all will prob be used up this month

mental skiff
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AgathaInhaler still need to increase protential for 16 4*

tardy fiber
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Oh right 5 new 4* this month DrakePain ...not 6 because i wont pull Tina PrycePain

mental skiff
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After that i will move to eggmon

hard wave
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I have like 26 left + 4 BPs being added + 2 lodge pairs

mental skiff
hard wave
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So I grind theme skill orbs, cant grind powerups and sync orbs, and my candy list for 4 stars

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I have a few 5 star candies but im still deciding who to use it on or save it for reruns I want

hard wave
hard wave
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Only have 3 4 star supp candies and tons of 3 star tech/support

hard wave
mental skiff
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I used to think about 3/5 rosa but now we have free

tough oriole
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Three/Five Rosa? More like Free/Five Rosa

mental skiff
hard wave
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Serperior pallosand and meowstic frames will be done soon (16 months) Hopium

tough oriole
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Lodge Cheren is ||right before EOS, trust||

hard wave
tough oriole
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Or after eos, who knows

tough oriole
mental skiff
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Cheren come next month and you will be forever in shame ClayClown

ashen thunder
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Lodge cheren

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More realistic than lodge nate

versed flame
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he is a story pair 🤔 it could happen

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(^ biased)

severe bridge
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Rallies are server side ?

round mason
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waiting for reset for val SerenaSip

mental skiff
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30 min

vernal glade
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Big gems incoming it’s close

severe bridge
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We might possibly get more than 4400 too?

mental skiff
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Yes

winged fossil
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20min to spare and i just speedran like half the 8/28 expiring events lol

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just rushed the challenge battles in like the past half hour

severe bridge
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I literally did the EBEs at 3 AM

vernal glade
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Including a free lodge scout. I definitely know who I’m choosing.

winged fossil
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shit i forgot about cs MonkaScottie

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ZOOM

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gonna do full special dmg

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so i dont have to change params at all

mental skiff
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Do strength or hp params BeaBurger

compact pasture
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Rosa 5/5 grid Hopium

mental skiff
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Cant wait to use vampire rosa and drain hp of my enemy to dead

round mason
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we get a free rosa copy right?

tough oriole
round mason
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ah alright

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one more year for 3/5 SerenaSip

mental skiff
winged fossil
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huh what, we get a free rosa dupe?

rare swan
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Hopefully the others will come as well

round mason
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for poma day

rare swan
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I want more Calem dupes so I can have 5/5

lost bobcat
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Cheren is the only one that never got a free copy

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They want us to candy

mental skiff
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calem is already good at base

winged fossil
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DEAR ARCEUS WHAT HAPPENED TO MY GEM COUNT
i swear i was at 36.6k literally yesterday and now after rushing events im at 46.8k LOL

vernal glade
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About time my Rosa turns to a 2/5

ashen thunder
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4/5 rosa time

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Now I get more shinier border

turbid sapphire
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hey trying to save until next datamine before i do anything rash

these long waits until datamine whenever i pick up the game and have someone i want is always painful, does anyone have tips?

mental skiff
ashen thunder
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Ehh idk

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I might 5/5 her

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But I want to candy ssblue and bulu

mental skiff
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IrisDerp i mean free

ashen thunder
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They both need 1 candy each and then they'll be good

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Wait

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We get more than 1 rosa copy?

winged fossil
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||time to say bye to half these gems prob.||

mental skiff
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They also refresh bingo rosa tho

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I heard that

rare swan
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Good luck everyone CalemRelieved

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And keep your pulls out of here!

latent salmon
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so uh. anni

brb gotta check if we got the 3k

winged fossil
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sooo uh, apparently the cake on pull is only with paid gems ClayClown

latent salmon
winged fossil
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they made a paid mf banner like wtf dena lmao

mental skiff
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No free 3000

latent salmon
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at least silver greeted me...

ignoring the fact i have all three of his pairs favorited and he's the only one i have favorited WEEZing

mental skiff
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Time to rally for more gems

latent salmon
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new oak bingo PoryWoke

winged fossil
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huh ok, i left that with pity still. my gems did NOT infact get thanos'd tonight, so guess im leaving the update with a pity still.

latent salmon
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no 3k for anni but at least we can hoard. like. idk 3* tech candies

mental skiff
winged fossil
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wait wheres the select ticket MarleyWhat

mental skiff
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Complete mission

latent salmon
winged fossil
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dangit have to wait another like 6 days

latent salmon
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eggmon

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ezez

mental skiff
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Gonna be a pain to switch them around

latent salmon
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when eggmon run out, you can hatch eggs for a reason.

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we have like 9 other options LanceShrug

mental skiff
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I exchange all egg for ticket

latent salmon
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i should probably get around to exchanging my stockpile of eggs but looking at this...

who has the last laugh now TabithaHehe

mental skiff
latent salmon
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i have hoarder mentality with eggmons

mental skiff
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I thought we can play bingo

winged fossil
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well, 3/5 gordie is here, but 0/5 of lapras lady still

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...how many copies of shauna is "enough".

mossy hawk
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Also 0/5 Melony hereHildaCry

vernal glade
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0/5 Gordie and Courtney DrakePain

winged fossil
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now the question becomes on if anyone else is enough fav to be worth anything or if im fully in save mode... wait no thats not even a question, everything stays till after next datamine, easy saving mode SerenaSip

round mason
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im just enjoying the free pairs SerenaSip

sweet tide
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did they just give us 1k skip tickets as anni present or am i tripping

round mason
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they did.

sweet tide
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😂

round mason
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tf did they think i was gonna do with 1k skips

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cale accumulation is gonna take long PrycePain

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cake**

sweet tide
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just focus on one role

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it will shorten the time by 50%

round mason
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alrighty then

uncut comet
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At least I discovered that not all the dailies are mandatory to claim the useful rewards

tardy fiber
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Sad not enough grass codexes to 140 bpbarry LarryDead

round mason
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new bp units are great
only using bpval and barry

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dana is what i needed 🥹

compact pasture
vernal glade
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Well, skip month next month.

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Because who knows when my favs will reappear.

maiden kayak
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wait a min

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anni has no more 3k gems present?

ashen thunder
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No

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Enjoy 1000 skip tickets instead

vestal leaf
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They gave 4k logins instead of 3k

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And instead no gems

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As present

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I think? Or lower

maiden kayak
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dang ok

tardy fiber
maiden kayak
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so total still 28k ?

tardy fiber
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30.7k if we clear twitter rally

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Oh wait the rally gems are given on 29 so it will carry to next datamine

past gate
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Do we have any missions for 3k gems?

lost bobcat
grim plover
vale ivy
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do we need to do extra battle for cake coin? or, is it under the regional daily battle?

uneven pewter
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Wow

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Dena i am impressed

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That is next level stupidity

broken mulch
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Err what is

uneven pewter
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Just saw the new masters fair banner

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I really hope the whales don’t indulge this crap

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This is a genuine insult

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To paid gems

maiden kayak
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||but they get a chiffon cake||

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|| much more expensive than macorons||

uneven pewter
broken mulch
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Let them pay for their cake

tardy fiber
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At least cake is obtainable in 1 and a half month, therefore I didn't get tempted TabithaHehe

uneven pewter
crisp oracle
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I just realized, if you get shafted by the cake banner you spend more gems on one new 5* unit then if you did all of the seasonal and pokefair selects

tardy fiber
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Yep that's why its kinda stupid

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Not like it has higher rates

ashen thunder
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The banner makes sense

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Coz they didn't give enuff gems

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So people just bought gems

tardy fiber
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If i got extra money, i would rather buy the coin bundle instead

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7k paid + 1 omni candy every 20 days TabithaHehe

ashen thunder
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Between the shit SSred and ssblue expansions and the paid MF banner

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Gotta love Dena for that SophoKEK

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Seems like only paid MF banner we are getting is whatever the fuck they are giving us rn

maiden kayak
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btw

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is anni 1k worth it

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is it same rate as daily bundle?

tardy fiber
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I buy 1k but not 10k

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As 3 daily orb bundles are cheaper than 10k offer price

maiden kayak
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cos 1k for me in 100 gems/10 cents my currency

tardy fiber
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1k paid for me costs the same as 100 paid gems + 200 stamina offer

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So i grab because its cheap enough

ashen thunder
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So did we get any info abt the admins selector?

maiden kayak
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nope

ashen thunder
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I am not in twitter so can't rly check stuff on that 👀

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Aite CaitlinSleeper

wind coyote
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hey

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i was here a while back

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used to be here

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then quit the game to focus on exams

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now im back

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skipped the johtrio i wanted cause i fell in love with champ red

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now im on 600 gems

sturdy flower
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Today I got a reminder how important having pities is

wind coyote
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now im on 600 gems

sturdy flower
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(i have 4 still)

wind coyote
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red shafted me

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but im happy i got him

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now i dont care abt johtrio

sturdy flower
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||me and you brother, took an L but i have him, still didn't 3/5 tho||

wind coyote
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im keeping him on 1/5

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he's a monster

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i love him

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i have all reds now

maiden kayak
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….

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u are not supposed to brag it here

wind coyote
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oh hey i remember u

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u were the guy on 500k gems

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u taught me abt pities

maiden kayak
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yes

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lol

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did I? i dont remember

wind coyote
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also thanks to u i reduced my rerun list by a lot

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Now im getting back to saving

maiden kayak
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save

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yes

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very good

wind coyote
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I dont want any other units this month

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Blue and leaf dont appeal to me at all

sturdy flower
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save because the free gem forecast is not promising

tawny summit
#

So no coin today from daily battle?

mossy hawk
#

5 daily tickets = 1 cake coin from your choice

dreamy onyx
wind coyote
#

well i am disappointed in one thing

#

My rerun list is huge I know
But i'm gonna get anni skyla through the 3k paid, i cant get ss diantha cause i just got emma and removed her from the list, and from seasonals im only being able to get palmarnie

#

so thats 2 more units scratched off the list

#

probably gonna remove johtrio as i dont much care abt them anymore

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and therefore dont wanna pull them

#

removed zerena cause cyrus suffices all my dragon striker needs

mossy hawk
#

Kinda ironic how Johto MFs were your ultimate favorites before

wind coyote
#

im just pulling the units that are ultimate in my opinion

#

like from now on ill probably on pull master fairs

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and some broken pokefairs

mossy hawk
#

At the rate that the powercreep is currently going, I am not sure how achievable that is

wind coyote
#

ill just go mfs then regardless

#

only master fairs

tardy jolt
#

So you’re pulling meta, which is a way worse criterium to follow, since the powercreep never stops and there are always going to be MFs every three months and broken PFs almost every month

mossy hawk
#

It doesn't have to be that bad, as long as you stay realistic in your wants

unkempt vortex
#

Gacha powercreep funny

#

Have fun pulling every month

wind coyote
#

ok fine ill only pull units i like

#

simple as dat

mossy hawk
#

In the end, you decide what you like and what not

wind coyote
#

yep

mossy hawk
#

And whatever makes you keep playing

unkempt vortex
#

Or not

#

No one is forcing you to play

oak crest
tardy jolt
# mossy hawk It doesn't have to be that bad, as long as you stay realistic in your wants

Sure, but when a list has 10+ reruns, it’s not realistic at all
Just being honest, this list is never getting completed and will become bloated beyond repair.
Tbh, everyone can do whatever they want with their resources and time, but if someone posts in a thread that’s specifically for advice on spending and after 50 minutes of saying that 2 units are not interesting to them adds them to the highest tier of their list, there’s very little input that can be given, except for a critique

oak crest
#

cos i did go for months without pulling sometimes

wind coyote
#

im sorry

#

didnt mean to offend with my list

#

but considering i took 5 units off it in just three months i think the goal is achievable

#

ill keep it to myself from next time

oak crest
#

uhh.. if you are lucky that's possible ig, cos worst case scenario that's 5 pities

tardy jolt
#

No offense taken, but there’s a difference between asking for advice and validation.
Only thing I’m adding is that on that list there are 5 units running this month, good luck

oak crest
#

3 months - that adds up to about 84-90k in average, so yeah, you definitely need a decent luck to cross out 5 faves with that amount

#

while there are moments i get omegaop pulls, there are also moments I needed a pity

wind coyote
#

i need to get this straight

unkempt vortex
#

With how things are going now it’s gonna be like 75k for 3 months

wind coyote
#

and play on terms that are acceptable to the game mechanic, not just based on luck

oak crest
#

yeah

wind coyote
#

considering i just pitied champ red

oak crest
#

things dont really look good with that trend

#

probably have to brace for terrible gem counts for the months after anni

maiden kayak
maiden kayak
#

maybe and dead month shows little to no commitment to your list

#

those units are added for the sake of filling the list

wind coyote
maiden kayak
#

maybe as well

wind coyote
#

cross out anni skyla cause im getting her within the next 24 hrs

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and palmarnie i will get too in this month

maiden kayak
#

just remove the rest

#

remove clutter

wind coyote
maiden kayak
#

imo

wind coyote
#

ill wait 2 yrs for their rerun

#

not pulling them rn

maiden kayak
#

calem

#

might lose his value as weather setter when field units are coming

#

i dunno about cleaf but her kit suffers from " my moves all need to be in turn 1" syndrome

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and her dmg is largely dependant on her rebuff and sun

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which explains why she has shit offense stats and bp

wind coyote
#

i havent read lead and blue's kits yet so i might as well go into them
i just love the kanto and galarian birds

hard wave
maiden kayak
#

yes

mossy hawk
#

Not that it is appropiate for this channel, but CLeaf does have a very straightforward rotation in fire teams

maiden kayak
#

even flare blitz

#

because u wont full utilise her sun

hard wave
#

But u cant even unlock that until u use leer?

maiden kayak
#

once u sync with her and thats her 2nd sun

#

Thats duh point

hard wave
#

Oh I see

maiden kayak
#

flare blitz has that sun mechanic

#

but its wasted if u sync with her

#

especially when u gonna have her support EX role

#

overall i just find quite abit of contradictions on her kit

hard wave
mossy hawk
#

I am sure it will look smooth in practice

maiden kayak
#

true but personally not a fan of units that wanna depend on ss acerola which most ppl recommend , then if thats the case whats the selling point of the unit without that support

hard wave
# wind coyote done

Also, u could just keep ur list but it’ll take a while to complete it and u may have to compromise if there’s new units u want

But also if ur willing to remove whole rows immediately, idt u want them enough

broken mulch
#

Wait what’s the problem again

#

That NC Leaf needs support?

hard wave
#

Champ Leaf wants to use everything turn 1

maiden kayak
#

the rerun list should ideally be like less than 3

#

thats it

maiden kayak
hard wave
#

Ig for now it doesnt matter too much unless u plan to give her support EX role

oak crest
wind coyote
mossy hawk
#

NCLeaf does max everything she wants herself with ease, full self sufficiency

#

But still, Gem saving channel

unkempt vortex
#

When does that ever stop people from having full discussions on units

ashen thunder
#

Having discussion on units is fine

#

Diss on that unit

#

So that people don't roll

hard wave
#

All units r mid, dont use ur gems except for stamina

mossy hawk
#

I feel like a villain defending some pairs here sometimesCynthiaSmug

unkempt vortex
#

There have been ones about units who aren’t even running

maiden kayak
#

what to do\

unkempt vortex
#

and then there are times where this is just lounge

mossy hawk
#

It's my fault, I am too objectiveCyrusSweat

maiden kayak
#

true

unkempt vortex
#

This is the real lounge

timber wren
#

it is not

ashen thunder
#

Don't need more than 10 teams anyways CaitlinSleeper

maiden kayak
#

well ppl dont spoiler it responsibly sometimes here

ashen thunder
#

People be out there rolling zone, rebuffer and 200 BP dps for each typing and still not doing more than 2.5k CS WulfricKEKW

hard wave
#

3k CS when

ashen thunder
#

4k CS when

#

3k is weak af

oak crest
#

probably after we get Galar CS

#

we might be seeing 3k after that

ashen thunder
#

4k offtype is "somewhat" challenging

hard wave
ashen thunder
#

3k is a joke

#

Since they added more params

hard wave
#

Tho they’d just add more params to choose from

oak crest
#

its also a "good time" for them to start dropping those cake coins by then

hard wave
#

2.5k would prob be hard without the standard damage reduction param

oak crest
#

i'll say give em 3-6 months

mossy hawk
#

Solution is simple, pull ||Regigigas|| and offtype every content
I have to stop with Palmer propaganda

ashen thunder
#

Well S+ and above stuff can do 4.5k consistently

#

And outside offregion ebe, CS is the hardest content

oak crest
ashen thunder
#

The content scaling compared to units is just PrycePain

oak crest
#

i love overkills

#

imagine doing 100k on pomas day pikachu stage

ashen thunder
#

I mean

unkempt vortex
#

That’s just gacha games sometimes

#

Content doesn’t equal unit power

ashen thunder
#

A modern tech unit does 100k on 3.5k MM

#

Doing 100k on Pikachu stage....dream bigger

#

999999 the yellow rats

oak crest
#

maybe 999,999

#

needs all them buffs

ashen thunder
#

Here that shit almost never happens

oak crest
#

uhh some will design the stage that it's almost impossible to clear without the featured unit tho...

unkempt vortex
#

Shit gacha game then SerenaSip

oak crest
#

ik some games that does that

unkempt vortex
#

Ofc

#

Make players pull

oak crest
#

yeah

ashen thunder
#

Iirc those games allow friend units as borrow

unkempt vortex
#

Also like those games there are ways to get around those unit specific gimmick stages

ashen thunder
#

Unless you are talking abt raids

#

Then yea

unkempt vortex
#

Depends on the game

ashen thunder
#

Raids are hella competitive

#

Which I doubt we are ever getting

timber wren
#

there’s a delicate balancing for these live service games to create new stuff that’s harder for veteran players but also brings in new players and doesn’t make them feel left out

#

but it does make our job in here easier, since newer better units aren’t needed to clear the same old content

ashen thunder
#

Yea
At most the content needs a gen pool unit due to the mission limitations

#

But ig it's better to skip that 1 coin/300 gems instead of potentially dumping 36.6k gems

vestal leaf
#

Bps are also actual great freebies

oak crest
#

yea they are

hard wave
#

Well 180k isnt so bad

hard wave
ashen thunder
#

200k is only 40k per stage

#

It's not even hard even if you are doing 2 ontype, 1 offtype

#

That's why the medal score bumped up higher than that

hard wave
#

I meant its kind of hard if ur going for the medal, but 180k is pretty easy

ashen thunder
#

Raid would be super fun
I hope if they do implement raid it doesn't allow same unit as other people in raid room

#

I don't want to see reds everywhere SophoKEK

hard wave
#

Rlly? Didnt know that

#

I havent played swsh nor sv, raids just seem fun LarryDead

ashen thunder
#

Nah I am mostly referencing what other gachas do for raid

unkempt vortex
#

Ye

ashen thunder
#

I never played anything past XY

hard wave
#

Oh

ashen thunder
unkempt vortex
#

In most cases it’s giant boss in big arena take it down with other people

#

Usually has multiple phases

#

Some games have a list of bonus units that deal more damage or give more rewards after defeating it

hard wave
#

Maybe friends will now be useful WeezingLFG

ashen thunder
#

I doubt it's ever getting implemented
Co op already lags like hell

unkempt vortex
#

Coop is the worst thing in this game SophoKEK

#

Imagine a raid with 3 or more people

hard wave
ashen thunder
#

Well leaderboard and raids are the only way to still force people into rolling "meta" stuff

#

So Dena just picked former as the route to go for

#

And leaderboard has no rewards so we can CaitlinSleeper

hard wave
#

I hope 10k is easier this HS, I didnt get the medal during the water one LarryDead

#

Preferably id like to not have to re do it SophoKEK

ashen thunder
#

Well 10k won't be hard

#

It'll likely be easier than before

#

Top 100 tho CyrusSweat

hard wave
#

Does top 100 give anything? Idc abt being on a leaderboard if it gives nothing

ashen thunder
#

Nothing

hard wave
#

Ok good MortySigh

uncut comet
fallen path
#

Whales are gonna support the whale banner lol. We will just get the cakes later as F2P and dolphin players

dreamy onyx
#

yeah whale pulling for 3/5 and 5/5 always use paid gem anyway

#

it's just 1 cake, people really thought it's gonna be 5

ashen thunder
#

Cakes are the new powerboost anyways

#

And seems like they are focusing on limited units first

#

So no reason to rush for those CaitlinSleeper

tardy fiber
#

True, i just gonna give cakes on my MF faves

#

Well because if there's plenty of alternatives, usually i will use MF faves than others just because they have MF passives

hard wave
#

Personally, just like move candies, idk who to use them on so ill just hoard MaxieChad

tardy fiber
#

At least its cheaper than candies, as each pair only need to use 1 cake while candies usage range from 1 to 4 candies for move levels

dreamy onyx
wind coyote
hard wave
#

Oh the cakes have a rarity?

dreamy onyx
#

no but they should

tardy fiber
hard wave
#

I have some options to candy, however idk who

#

Im at 59 coins for strike, so almost 3
Like 56/57 for tech iirc?
45 maybe for support
32ish for general

#

I havent even exchanged them cuz I dont want to accidentally use them LarryDead

tardy fiber
#

Even if 3* 4* pairs got cake treatment, it probably uses the same cake...as cake role need EX

#

So Oak and BP Master pairs wont get cake for now DrakePain

oak crest
#

kinda wished they released the new daily stage earlier

#

apparently we dont get them until 6 resets later

indigo kernel
#

are roll cakes used based on the units role or the ex role

#

i cant tell

hard wave
#

Yeah hoenn starts this reset but they r waiting until sinnoh PrycePain

oak crest
#

its decided by dena

dreamy onyx
#

the ex role

tardy fiber
#

Decided by DeNa

hard wave
dreamy onyx
#

red ex role is tech so you have to use tech cake

hard wave
#

So for example they gave red a tech EX role so u need a tech cake

indigo kernel
#

OKAY thank you

oak crest
#

dena will decide what 2nd EX role that unit can get and we can use that type of cake on that unit

#

unfortunately we dont get to choose

lost bobcat
#

Fair, we'll create monsters

hard wave
#

We get to choose who to use it on, not what cake to use LarryDead

oak crest
#

yeah

#

if you dont like the EX assigned by dena, then skip it SophoKEK

tardy fiber
#

Like zerena, palmer, ncred are all strike pairs but zerena got support while other 2 got tech cake role

indigo kernel
#

oh could you imagine like

#

support sprint role

tardy jolt
#

Tbh cakes take so long that I’ll be saving all of those that we get until 5th Anni

compact pasture
#

Support Support role

oak crest
#

yeah think we need 3 months to form 1 cake

tardy fiber
#

As each month give 6 coins for each 5 roles and you can buy 6 of your desired role coin from daily ticket shop

#

So 12

oak crest
#

so average 3 months if you didnt focus

#

hmm

tardy fiber
#

Yep 100 days to form 1 cake of each roles

tardy jolt
# tardy fiber Only 2 months if you focus on 1 cake

Yeah, which is quite long, unless they release a busted Diantha/Cynthia/Nemona, I’ll be saving them. If they are going to be used for meta reasons, I’d rather wait until I have at least 1 per type to spare. So I should have the materials for 5 cakes saved up for anni

tardy fiber
#

But in that time gap maybe you can build 1/2 cakes from daily ticket shop

hard wave
oak crest
indigo kernel
#

...

hard wave
#

He’s a sprint with support EX role

oak crest
#

im skipping him so idrc

indigo kernel
#

well!

oak crest
indigo kernel
#

good for him

wind coyote
oak crest
#

the only reason he came back crying is cos ||he got cucked big time by giovanni||

tardy fiber
wind coyote
#

i must say i was proudly able to predict that paulo would have dusk form... along with 500 other ppl

dreamy onyx
#

yeah you can get cake faster than candy

oak crest
tardy fiber
oak crest
#

uk, they should have 6 types of cake...

oak crest
#

the 6th being GENERAL cake

#

can be used for all 5 types

compact pasture
#

Lisia should get a field role

tardy jolt
tardy fiber
#

Sprint and field coins are still cloudy, only 1 coin each on September SophoKEK

#

40 months to 3/5 field/sprint pairs from 1/5

oak crest
#

hmm

tardy jolt
#

Tbh, I don’t like the new roles at all. Fields can be interesting, if they are going to make them more support like, but sprint have a mechanic that gameplay wise doesn’t interest me at all. Unless it’s going to be tied to a fave, I’m fine with not expanding my rooster that way

wind coyote
#

if i had a nickel everytime red was used as an anni unit, i'd have 3 nickels, which is weird cause there have only been 4 annis

#

and 3 of them have had red

tardy jolt
#

I’ve recently remade all my teams and optimized them and I’ve realized that I’ve only like 3/4 gaps in them before having 34 teams for special and physical variants of each type and the units that I’m looking for don’t exist yet, so I’m really quite chill with what next year is going to throw at me. I am going to be looking forward for those units coming into the game and for the rest, I’ll be saving up more than before, since the F2P gems are declining fast. Selects will be ore than enough to experiment with new stuff in between saving and MFs drops

wind coyote
dreamy onyx
#

they release those 2 new roles to justify adding the ex role tbh, and avoid making every pair a tech

tardy fiber
#

The only way i can see myself using sprint EX sync maybe for gauntlet as it can make sprint followed by support sync faster so fast 3 sync buffs

deft glen
tardy fiber
#

Im just happy to finally have a Red that can fit my faves category

wind coyote
#

Ok great

#

Got Palmarnie, Ny Lisia and Anni Skyla

#

3 units off the list thanks to paid selects

#

i love august 28th

#

the list is much much shorter now

wind coyote
#

because ive run out my quota of paid gems for the year 💀

tough oriole
#

I suppose there won’t be many selects left in the year to use paid gems on

wind coyote
#

oh right

#

perhaps next year

#

august is the month i can really delete half the list thanks to selects

dreamy onyx
#

I hate that they throw every select near anni LarryDead

wind coyote
#

yea

#

should spread out over the year

dreamy onyx
#

save some for new year or half anni

wind coyote
#

regardless my list is just 8 units now, i wont pull any of them rn and ill pull on their rerun

#

so im off to a few months of saving

uneven pewter
#

They just don’t want to pull the trigger

#

3 teams just like when we had to do ex battles with carries

#

Go with friends or go solo

fallen path
tough oriole
dreamy onyx
#

prestige rewards are great tbh, just the execution was bad. but f2p will complain regardless, you aren't supposed to get everything

ashen thunder
#

Prestige is okay

#

If it wasn't for the blatant x5 boost

uneven pewter
tough oriole
#

I fundamentally disagree with giving a MoveCandy , the most valuable item in poma, to only the top players

ashen thunder
#

I was gemming pretty much everyday except 2 days and still missed rewards

#

Coz my Steven was only 1/5 back then iirc

uneven pewter
#

I absolutely despised the first prestige

ashen thunder
#

They pretty much stopped giving full candies at this point

#

Remember when random events used to give full candy

#

Now we get 2 coins max

unkempt vortex
#

Remember when we got stuff

#

Now we get skip tickets

ashen thunder
#

The weather duo release is the peak content we ever got

unkempt vortex
#

Aren’t skip tickets pog?

ashen thunder
#

Oh ye

#

We got 1000 skip tickets for anni

dreamy onyx
#

how about the top get a full candy and lower ranks get like 3 coins, 5 coins... rather than high score rewards now when everyone get 1 coins of each, and prestige gave gems too

uneven pewter
ashen thunder
uneven pewter
#

And it’s all about consumer behavior graphs

ashen thunder
#

Well it was

#

Back during that time

#

But not in current days

dreamy onyx
#

but yeah people are mad about the medal from high score so i don't think they can ever add rewards like prestige again

ashen thunder
#

Especially when we have 8+ new limited units in single update

#

And they give 1000 skip tickets

tough oriole
#

I think the 1k skip tix are designed for new players, so that they don’t run out?

ashen thunder
#

They already give excessive amounts from dailies

unkempt vortex
#

This

ashen thunder
#

200 would have been fine for anni

#

That doesn't mean they have to reduce gems to give 1000 skip tickets

unkempt vortex
#

You could easily start getting an overflow within about 2 weeks or so

dreamy onyx
#

new players need more tome codex and sync orbs tho, skip tickets WEEZing

unkempt vortex
#

Even then orbs aren’t a problem now either

tough oriole
ashen thunder
#

Newbies roll NCred anyways
Just ohko the stage with Blizzard CaitlinSleeper

unkempt vortex
#

They’re in most exchanges and lodge gives a lot

ashen thunder
#

We only getting 28k gems this update

#

Rally rewards are dropping on 29th

#

So that counts for next update

#

They gave the usual anni 3k gems last month itself during nemona release

#

And last month gem count including that 3k wasn't spectacular either

unkempt vortex
#

It was funny when people were coping anni would be 30k+ WEEZing

ashen thunder
#

Also the rocket admin ticket looks like a variety banner tiered scout thing

#

So we are also only getting 1 shitty selector with only 3 choices

unkempt vortex
#

Wow variety paid gems

#

Def worth

ashen thunder
#

Coz I am trying to find sources for if it's a selector and there's no sign of it

winged fossil
#

It feels weird that anni is so low but I somehow still left the banner I went for this year with more gems than I came in with so I call that a W either way

tough oriole
#

So you’ll get petrel or archer, whichever one is less useful

ashen thunder
#

Ye, and it's likely tied to variety banner tho

dreamy onyx
#

imo variety pairs should've been 4* in a fair banner like rachel, sawyer and tina

ashen thunder
#

I am not having high hopes on it being free for everyone

dreamy onyx
#

people will pull for those

winged fossil
#

Ew it’s not even a select of them

unkempt vortex
#

Scam anni

dreamy onyx
#

variety is just blatant cash grab

unkempt vortex
#

It’s the an easy lazy cow that will be milked

#

Remember all these characters we haven’t released at all yet? Now get them for a limited time or never see them again

ashen thunder
#

People see Giovanni and rhydon

#

And will instantly pool

#

Eventho it's no costume or EX flavors

tough oriole
unkempt vortex
#

Hey

#

People pulled on that eevee banner

ashen thunder
#

Only selector mentioned is the shitty lodge PF one

tough oriole
#

Absol said clearly that he was confident that it’d be free

ashen thunder
#

Variety scout is mentioned

#

Free admin is not

#

There's no way they wouldn't mention free admin
Considering it's the only somewhat decent thing we are getting this anni

tough oriole
#

I just think its weird to have 2 separate tickets if one of them isn’t attached to the variety scout

ashen thunder
#

Weird

#

Knowing Dena, they'd brag so hard abt free stuff

#

Like how they are glorifying the current shitty selector with just 3 units

unkempt vortex
#

It’s dena

ashen thunder
#

Throwing in electric HS with such a selector is just pure evil

unkempt vortex
#

They changed after what happened

ashen thunder
#

Coz raihan is the only actual decent shit and other 2 are electric units

hard wave
fallen path
#

I’m just saying, since DeNA are on the stock market they have to ensure their shareholders are happy

hard wave
#

Makes sense

fallen path
#

So I suppose they have been looking at more ways to streamline revenue and be more like other games where they care about 10% of their customers who are whales vs the other 90% who are F2P and light spenders

hard wave
ashen thunder
#

I'd have preferred them just put all lodge PFs instead of blatantly making newbies pick for electric HS

#

I am missing Marnie and other 2 are already 3/5, that doesn't mean I actually want to pick her

vestal leaf
#

Don't you wanna take care of the 1.5 Anni tickets?

mental skiff
#

DawnNom new player is so lucky... I joint the game and only wish for OG marnie and it took me a year now they get her free

uneven pewter
#

Little by little

#

They give you less pretties

tough oriole
uneven pewter
#

Until they are starving you

uneven pewter
round mason
#

||gotta hope rngesus gives me giovanni...||

vestal leaf
#

Execs = no gio

unkempt vortex
#

Gio is clearly not the leader of team rocket

sturdy flower
#

he's the janitor

#

with how often he has to clean up

round mason
#

is he?

sturdy flower
#

we don't know

hard wave
#

When is the ticket anyway? Sept 6th?

vestal leaf
#

The difference in quality between his kit and the admins is so wide I don't see DeNa giving us a chance to roll him, considering how stupid his 1/5 already is

tough oriole
#

Yeah, minors have monthly paid gem purchasing limits

hard wave
#

…may want to delete this too then

unique ivy
#

Yep thank you

#

It’s stupid

unique ivy
deft glen
#

Next gift will be music coins SophoKEK

tough oriole
#

There is 3k gems, just over 6 days i think?

deft glen
#

Is this new?

#

Or was it already in the previous gem count

#

I'm lost

tough oriole
#

Even better Elesayaya

vestal leaf
vestal leaf
#

Iirc

tough oriole
#

Dont we also have rallies going on rn?

vestal leaf
#

Only a JP one iirc

#

We'll see how it goes

#

But it's way later

hard wave
#

We havent gotten anything new except that JP rally, and we dont get it until 9/29 ColressLook CourtneyBruh

#

Coping for more rallies AcerolaPensive

deft glen
#

Better quit the cope

#

Too late

hard wave
tardy fiber
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Im coping the Villain co-op event will give gems or move coins or villain admin ticket Hopium

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Need to wait till 6th sept to see what's it about.

lapis pine
tough oriole
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Lillietea Field SabrinaPray

hard wave
broken mulch
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Give me Field Cynthia for hilarity

pure arrow
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Sprint EX SS Wally + Adrenaline 1 Lucky Skill FlanneryBurn

deft glen
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I'll use cakes on every Serena alt possible SabrinaPray

wind coyote
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August 28th just sorted my flying type needs, poison type needs and ice type needs

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And steel cause of palmarnie

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And fairy cause of ny lisia

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Now my only type which i cant ontype is bug… and probably rock

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Beautiful day

uneven pewter
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If the rockets share a drop rate then i am not bothering

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If they each have individual chance drop rates I’ll try my luck

mint zephyr
crisp oracle
mint zephyr
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3/5 ex it is

crisp oracle
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It's not just his damage though, its freeze off on B Ice Beam that is crazy

mint zephyr
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By the end of the month if I get nothing imma just do it

crisp oracle
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and no, you don't need to run him at 3/5. 1/5 is enough.

maiden kayak
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hes not worth it period

crisp oracle
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Truly yes

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he doesn't need crit thanks to his passive

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he maxes his special attack

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even at that point, with guarenteed freeze they aren't gonna hit you back

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so you don't need to one shot

maiden kayak
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||i get that he has SMUN stuff, but still feel artificially inflating it is kinda whatever when supports wanna stack it||

crisp oracle
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does he honestly need SMUN?

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he's already powerful enough as is with literally everything in his base kit

maiden kayak
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i just feel his dmg is kinda artificially inflated

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instead of innate grid multipliers

crisp oracle
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with the rebuff? oh yeah

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||and if you have irida it's inflating it even more||

maiden kayak
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same case for ||cleaf||

crisp oracle
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||honestly CBlue is the best one of the bunch||

maiden kayak
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||cleaf is even worse cos of sun and rebuff and she depends heavily on it||

mint zephyr