#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)
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last year it was very late april I think
Yep, ssmorty released on 28th april iirc...well that late, he is considered a may unit
As his information is in late april datamine
Hope datamine is early 
Well the gem count only till 26th
So it might be early again

Wait it was? I could’ve sworn began in May.
Hold on let me search.
morty debuted april 28
Can check his release date in pomatools
If you want to double check
Its in info tab
Oh.
did you know if you use poryphone's /pair command you can check the banner's availability 
I dont know...i only know events and banners command 
not all pairs have availability dates but for pokefairs I think the info is complete already
Im not sure what happen with my discord but some # just gone
If not used for some time
Oh right next reset got a hassle event 
I hope my RNG is good
Need to trigger all 18 different moves via metronome to get all mission gems
Oh except fissure
Tri attack 30 gems, fire blast 30 gems...got 18 moves that need to trigger using metronome
So its rng
And a 1 day event
What the hell lol
Well we can use 3 pairs that have togepi with metronome for higher chance to trigger the moves
But doesn't change that its still rng
They give us level 50 MC togepi, ethan togepi and dawn togepi but can only use in this event only

What the heck? Geez this gonna be painful I think. Good thing fissure isn’t on there.
RNG is gonna be a cruel mistress lol
Like isn’t fissure a 1% move on metronome?
Yep thankfully they didn't include fissure in requirements
LG players: wow this is much smoother than my usual Moltres run
Ya thank god otherwise I be on that battle for hours.
Well fissure ending the stage abruptly does cause problems 
I don't think 1% is confirmed 
600 gems locked in missions here after clearing the event
Wait, it’s a one time attempt?
nah, i just finished the challenge in one go
just got the repeat battles left to do for gems
SS Serena priveleges
Oh ok I was like, there’s no way they doing metronome event one attempt and locking the rest of the gems.
Seeing Roxanne getting an EX is a dream come true
She has a really desirable set of buffs
already made her 5* 20/20 in anticipation
I didn't, since I have some big supports to do first
Namely Kiawe, who just got his 3/5
Red
And likely a couple more like Aaron
Saving my powerups to immediately EX Lodge Steven haha
I also now have to consider the lodge pairs, since lodge N is a massive fave
I don't have steven
Ended up picking lance
i can still EX like 20 characters
5* been sitting at 200+ ever since lodge dropped
I'm not even close to that, because I'm still in the "raising 4 stars into 5" bit of the game
that bit of the game doesn't exist!
It exists if I haven't raised all the 4 stars I'm gonna use
Oh I’m done with that haha. All my non eggs are 5 stars
I don't have a whole year played yet
So I haven't got to that point
All my pairs are 4 stars, at least
I'm pondering about what to do with my gems
Since I'm running out of objectives and that's bad
you can give them to me
I'm not running out that hard yet
If I finish the Unova collection and end up with the 17 on type teams
save x scouts and then run for anything shiny enough, simple as
I might raise the bar and have it being 17 monotype teams
Mainly fueled by this week's csmm accomplishment
I managed to clear with on type only
Even on supports
yes it does
Yes it does
I still need to 5* 35 non eggmon pairs to be done with it 
I’ve tried it with the regular parameters for on type and off type, tbh with the new super effective parameter is going to be super easy, a much smoother transition compared to the one to 2k, but it will be fun to toy around with the new options
i didn't see the new parameters

it's gonna be super easy to do 3k now
i hope whoever does max points has piercing blows.
even in duos
Standard damage reduction 8 and physical/special reduction 8 are free 400 points, basically
tough skin 8 sounds very fun indeed for someone who always offtypes
skill issue, just do duos with weird pairs instead 4Head
i mean you can just do 2.5k by using old params anyway
standard damage reduction 8 is what exactly?
isn't that the tough skin 8 rebranded?
Non super effective attacks deal less damage
Yeah, they just made it more easy to understand lol
not like im trying 6k or w/e is the new max points
these are all new additions to the choices to buildup points
This update to CS is very F2P friendly
Rewards people who know how to build parameters? That sounds nice
I always did 2.5k 2v3s but with this update i'll move up to 3.2k probably
Yeah, you’d basically not notice the difference at all
3.5k sounds still to obnoxious to 2v3
unless you have like
some perfect duo
like the frogs
vs water weak
or sskris + whatever vs water weak
you mean the rats
or rats vs electr
they can probably offtype as long as you dont take tough skin lol
but tbh all my last 2.5 electr weak stages have been sstred solos so
2.5k
he's 1/5 exed but only needs like one dodge to easily win
Tough skin can be bypassed with piercing blows
But doubt the new CS passives can be bypassed
how many amazing piercing blows users do we have, like 5?
Else they wouldn't get same name
they can be bypassed if they aren't plain stat boosts
Well solgaleo has PB effect 
Solgaleo has no damage lol
the new params cant be bypassed

they are battle conditions, not passives
Damn it 
For people that want to know about new params and the points
Huh ||I actually thought strike and tech X2 damage received is also 100 pts, not that incentive|| 
||The zone/terrain option is also free for almost all stages as well
Is Wikstrom one of the rare fights that sets zone on entry?||
I suppose so
Iirc sidney also have zone stuff
Lot of em have it
||i think opponents wont be affected by no zone change param||
A lot of newer CS stages have zones
But they use it before their syncs
But zone on entry? Only wikstrom I think. Some stages do have weather on entry though
So it doesn't change presync much
Wow that'd be shit
That's just bullying


aww, i cant add more strength
Yeah, if it’s before sync you just ko them before
Tbh, I don remember the fights too well, but to me it seems like that if you know how to build parameters, you basically have 550 points for free, which is very good for f2p people and savers in general
Not that it matters, since the rewards are kinda cheeks
Drake sets sand, wikstrom sets zone
Those are the only entry ones iirc
Most likely yes
EZ then
i will continue to offtype but 500 more even with old parameters isn't a big issue at all
also that Tipsy Turvy Summer Hilda finally has her niche
Downside up and impervious pair smiling for five stats ⬇️3 param 
I feel.smart for not expecting ticket scout update
||150 points to not use terrain thanks dena only kalos i see that as an issue||
Tbf it was absol that tweeted it, but it seemed to be just some misunderstanding about the data we got

Although honestly for now Galar not being expanded is a bonus for me cause I don’t even want whatsherface and don’t need dupes of gordie yet
Higher chance at 3/5 Sonia and the fact I got 3/5 Bea I gladly take over those two
I know absol was reason, but the stuff he released wasn't convincing. I knew Dena wouldn't randomly update like this so I assumed the worst
I was just banking on at least Kalos tickets not being dead for once but they still are dead till anni it seems

It seems they just edit the expire date of these banners but Absol wasnt aware of that
I don’t get the hype around sc Steven
People see the team flexibility + ability to make your damage number bigger and go nuts
He good and he's Steven 
It’s just numbers
I finally got my 3/5 Sonia after a year
It was also the general pool tickets, which is ridiculous, but I guess I have 60 more Galar tickets saved now
I’m only missing Colress and Gordie from the general pool now
I bought into the same hype for ss hilbert and got shafted, not again
The mentality is to make your favorite damage dealers do more damage
Same for C.Marnie, but still
It’s a shame SC Steven isn’t a support, but he was super fun to use with regular Elesa! Debuffs, rebuffs and SEU really help her, only missing electric terrain
I once fell to that same mindset after seeing a youtube video of redlax being a best friend for gladion so i grab him...but then i realised that i wont ever EX him and candy him so why did i pull him in the first place? 
Now my willpower is stronger
Red has other uses thankfully
Also, unlike steven, red isnt a dork
At least it worked

Why wouldn't you EX redlax for x2 sync node?
Because last time i checked snorlax isnt a legendary/mythicals/UBs
Sc steven seems like best 3rd slot for some types physical. For instance seems best for fairy NY Lisia/SS Wally. I'm sure there are other good examples
But eventually he will not be BIS for hardly any types
SCteven got a permanent spot on my normal team haha
I gonna wait for Regigigas and Arceus for more normal faves 
I’m still thinking they’re either gonna make a really Uber omnitype Arceus, or release 18 different Arceus sync pairs haha
Arceus variety scout 
Probably normal type with judgement being special damage on type thats almost the same like Silvally multi attack just that its special damage
In before support Arceus. Just a better SC Steven lmao
Him + cbede + anybody is a hell of a team comp
Wouldn't want to pity tho in a month of 24k so i am staying far away from him
Well I needed 27k for SC Steven
Better than to pity I guess
Should have a full pity ready by May
27k is the worst. Hardest choice whether to go to pity for dupe
Needless to say all my MF come at 24k-27k just to spite me into not going for dupe
Jk, I need pity for 1st copy half the time
Is Detective Shauna and TR Lyra Master Fair Or Pokefair If Yes,Which Should I Go For First
Alr thanks
Also, for future reference asking about who to go for is best not done in this channel, since it’s about saving gems
I wanted to ask about saving gems but idk how should ask this (since i actually want both)
Have you tried making a fave list yet?
How many gems do you have?
A short, less than 10 names, list of units you'd like to get in the future.
||Wish i had more gems would have pulled TR lyra|| its all Bede's fault
If you currently have a small amount of gems you need to consider if its worth going for without being able to reach scout points
But the gem count this month is only 24k anyway
Yeah it’s a trap month
~~Steven is always bait
~~
And this time he’s bait for SC Zinnia

It's cute when people come in here with 1 pity or less thinking that counts as saving
(But really cute without the e)
||I haven't done any type of pull for 8 days probably a new record ||
everyone starts from somewhere and we’re not here to shame people in this thread
I always like him more than what he's trying to bait us for 
of course it counts
Good for you, you actually don't have to sweat bullets second guessing yourself "is this bait?"
Like I said a couple of days ago, It's not bait if you like the bait more than what comes after 
This isn’t a competition, it’s a place to help people save gems (generally so that they can guarantee their favorites whenever they arrive)
Ya, I always say it's never too late or too early to start saving
As long as your goal is to save, that’s what matters 
I’m sure a number of us have been broke at one point.
When we started the game
What’s with the shaming
Can he tank?
I'm guessing he can't
Anyone here do tiered scouts?
I would if the value was there, but it isn't imo
I'll pretend I'm muted since my gatekeeping has been worse lately
I only did one.
i did one on the war games quartet
||got shafted on every scout, only got 1/5 sc jasmine after everything because of the guaranteed ticket||
so uh. don’t recommend em
How far were u guys willing to go on it? Like we’re you prepared to spend the full 20k for guaranteed or did you stop at a certain tier
If you aren't willing to go to the guaranteed ticket it seems pointless to do any tiers at all, except the very first one if it only costs 100 per pull like a daily
In principle yea, but there’s a unit coming that is making me want to ignore that
Basically every tier you do is 3k paid gems you could spend in the future on a select scout
Its not worth it unless you are willing to spend regularly on bundles, very often
I did the ||Palentine’s rerun and had to do the whole 7.5k. Was going for Serena, got Marnie on the way.||
||But that’s not enough to guarantee her, so you still took the risk. So you pulled serena on the 25% ticket?||
||This is the rerun tier from this last Feb. There was no ticket.||
Ohh I see, those must be cheaper then
Yes
Lmao I guarantee we will never get another 3k limited select scout. I'm doubtful we see any 5k select scouts more than 1 or 2 times per year either
They are changing the costs after offering us the cheaper gem bundles, effectively making our buying power equal or worse than before for anything except dailies
You have no concrete proof of it.
Wasn't last 3k scout less than a year ago?
Around anni yea
If they do that, then all that changes is any paid route is no longer worth it
Before the daily gem bundle update
guarantee is a big word. don't speak in absolutes lol
They’re funneling people with paid gems towards variety scouts or tiered imo. Selects have always been rare
As soon as they did not give us any selects for 3.5, you should have accepted they changing the rules
Just because there's one case of something not happening doesn't mean the whole structure will change.
You can assume so, you can state your theories, but you can't say anything for sure.
Have selects only happened on anni?
Itll probably be like
Once for anni, once for new years
And those will probably be the only limited selects
Which, im more or less fine with
*limited selects that are 3-5k
#1006618823123800106 has a list of dates
Oh right, looks like its just anni and NY
I'm just saying it is safer to be on the pessimistic side for a company's money making decisions
Your wording made it seem like the only possible outcome.
99% is safer to treat as 100%
No it isn't? And your assumptions have no percentage value.
By that logic you could say that we’ll never get another seasonal select
It's eos next reset btw
Okay keep your copium going. But if you waiting for 3k and 5k selects while slowly accumulating Paid gems with the $3 bundles, you may end up with 60k gems and nothing to spend on but tiered and dailies.
How hard is it to accept that your predictions don't create reality? You may be correct, you may not. No specific proof, no data to base them on.
Anyway, it's pointless to continue this.
idk i find it weird that people are against assuming the worst about paid selects when this channel's whole premise is to be ready for the worst in terms of favs
Paid gems are different than non paid.
People can either pay or not pay. But for non paid, everyone is on the same level.
I seriously doubt that the common person is willing to do a tiered scout, but 3k/5k scouts are more reasonable
Preparing for the worst and saying that only the worst can happen are two different options.
Show me an example of a company making stuff cheaper over time. Foolish to think they would drop the cost of gems without compensating in the amount to pull
Dragalia Lost dropped the summon cost without significantly changing wyrmite income early on. We really only got a bit of a drop once they added the scout point equivalent way later
it's out of our control anyways, it's pointless to think about it lol
Multis used to only give 10 pulls
Well we were pulling 1 by 1 for efficiency until they added 11
By pulling 10+1 at a time we are using our gems faster too in the cases we get unit early in the multi
Gonna be honest, that seems like a bit of a reach given how much of an edge case it is
using gems faster?
U never know tho, the featured could be #11
Wouldn't have it been faster still if players were still doing singles cause a 300 price is faster to use than a 3000 price use if you're talking by the efficiency of the players spending gems
They’re saying that technically a multi burns through your gems stash more if you happen to get the Sync Pair early in a multi
But IMO that’s just…such an edge case
well that's kinda a stretch for DeNa to think about
I mean, us asking for an 11th free took awhile before they did. But the fact they listened means most people were doing 1 by 1 to save gems
Amount of times i get 3 and 4 stars and the 11th is the featured unit is what 4 times now
ig, but they were still paying gems
Tbh I’d prob still do multis even if it wasn’t +1, cause multis just generally are more hype to me than some single. Plus it lets me gauge how much I’ve gotten from a banner better
The reason singles used to be better I think was bcz u could stop as soon as u get the unit
Like if u did a multi and it was the first unit thats 2700 gems gone
Yeah Multi didn’t used to have an extra 1 unit. Just 10
So even though it was more time consuming you’d be saving gems on average if you single pull
Exactly, they made it cheaper to pull in bulk
Other gatcha games i play wouldn’t do such a thing
Ya because back in the OG days it was at 10 which wasn’t worth it back in the day if I remembered correctly.
I only do singles to fill pity points 
I keep forgetting to claim my daily mission gems since i’m trying to save the stamina for the next day, so I should stop doing that
Yeah I never save my daily +200 stamina for the next day
Most I’ll save is just the naturally regenerating stam
I usually do all my missions then wait for a full stamina before i claim my daily
Time to collect gems by random luck
oh my god we have to use every move
Thankfully we can repeat the stage to get it all.
Also the event only lasts a day so better do it all.
yeah, i just did it all
guess the #datamines thing tho was a april fools joke, figured
I still havent proc rock slide...
Pity! 
great job!
took me 6-7 battles to get all the metronome missions done. that was fun
11 battles it took me. Bug Buzz refused to come out.

i think this is as far as i can go at this point

I'm now the 4th known saver to reach the 400k milestone
if only for a brief moment
What is an eternity of torment when compared with the infinity of delight😜
well said
That French romantic was onto something 🤣
Who?
I just try and save as much as I can so its not full but almost full
Aye that’s what I did
@summer goblet congrats!
What's the gem count till the month end ... I want to start saving for master fair ... Only 100 gems left😭
My goal is mostly to maintain 100k so I'm always ready for triple MF
Pins are your best friend. 📌
How long until Detective Shauna and TR Lyra releases (i wanna see if i can save enough gems for them in the mean time)
#1012256199128915968
Alr thanks
The metronome event is funny… If you want gems you have to be patient, and you can’t assume that you’ll get something specific out of a certain amount of rolls
Hopefully it’ll teach people something
There should have been a 10k gem reward for rolling fissure
Its nearly impossible to
Itd be a funny way to make people waste their entire days trying for it
The chance hasn’t even been datamined, so we’d have no clue
That would have really been an April fool joke
i wonder why not
we clearly have the tools to
Hey, is the Spring May and Burgh banner still gonna be full odds? I have almost enough for a pity but just wanna be sure.
For example, we still can't datamine banner info such as rates and available units.
Gets we can do is guess
I feel like asking that question opened way for you to give this example. Thanks for indirectly answering tho!
Actually I just got distracted and sent my message later, it was a lucky coincidence)
Most likely 1.5/1.5
It actually only took me 5 battles to get all 18 (3 battles for 15, 4 battles for 17)
i think it took me around 10 battles
Idt I did my dailies yesterday I am so sad 💔
I should stop leaving lodge for the last thing I do but I did fall asleep at 10 abd didnt wake up until 10 today
✨
but aren't battles client-side?
You can ask dataminers for details.
All I know is: there has been no info about Metronome ever since Voltage stated "The specifics of getting Fissure are currently unknown" when Burgh was released. Nothing in this discord, nothing from Absol-utely.
should be 1.5% each
but we won’t know until it’s live


How many gems usually come within the first week of a month?
You can check previous month totals and day-by-day gems by searching for messages like pinned one.
Also #1010223517565976737 exists.
I doubt someone keeps tabs on weekly gems.
Thank you
My gem count.
Symmetrical gem count. 
That’s oddly satisfying gem count 
Palindrome
ima just ask here since, tried asking earlier today in the general questions chat and dont think anyone answered...
is it ok to... ||use yellow candy as strike candy if ive got more strikes wanting candy than techs?||
asking the question since, im really close to a yellow. ||and have two more strikes coming that'll be arguing over who gets candy first probably
||
strike coins are the most common to come by but if strike candies are on demand for you then i dont see why not
You better keep your eyeballs open!
Yellow candies are there to be used - if there is a unit (especially a fave!) you really want to candy then go for it
I used one the other day and have no regrets
omg tai you're yellow 
Omg exile hiii

Definitely. I’ve always just seen
as a substitute for whichever one is in most demand
Imagine candying units and not just jealously hoarding candies
thanks, i just wanted to make sure. the only limited one i see myself going for in near future unless VA brings one i have interest in is CSerena, and i dont foresee her rerun being anytime soon.
feel like ive caught up on the other two already fav wise. for candy, ill prob have 2 techs by time cserena rerun would happen.
I always think “what if a unit comes next month that I really want to candy”
And then I never use my candies
true.
i only dont hesitate if i know its a fav thats getting a big upgrade, like when i 1>3'd my sc lillie the other week
I’ve been holding out on triple candying SSN
Because what if another fav comes or I decide to 5/5 anni raihan
So instead I horde
Lol i feel ya
the only tech ive got left that id consider candying i think is ssrynthia, and honestly i dont think id care enough, her damage feels fine as is and id prob more so use her to set zone for my lillie instead.
I can save tech and specially striker candies
But I can never save support 
I use my yellows on Supports
support wise im out of limiteds i want to candy rn, so if i reach 3 candies and havent used one yet, ill just give ingo his sand mpr for the lulz (2>3)
Oddly en
enough
I think that the units I'm most likely to actually candy and not hoard are strikers
Supp and Tech I can agonize about the demand then tell myself "it's finneeee at 1/5"
Strikers to make it interesting I feel I want to upgrade
cmarnie, ss ethan, lussamine, and summer n are all going to be fighting for 1>3 most likely over the next few months... hey, does anyone know if last NY reruns were separate or combined banners for the rerun people?
i wanna know if theres a chance Summer N and Summer Gloria might share a banner despite separate years
I have so many techs that would like 3/5 but they're good enough at 1/5 so I just don't candy
Combined
they will but with other summer alts so way lower rates
oh shit, i might be able to get summer gloria when i go for summer n then
not like I have many, I just have one cuz I used two on || Anni May ||
Hmmm I think it's possible. Probably like a 50/50 chance
cause i missed her rerun last year due to a variety of reasons
They probably will with a .333 chance each
save those gems
Something like that
idc if its .333 chance, im prob going to pity for N so if i get him early the pity can be for gloria

I feel like I need to have two pities in reserve but it's tough...
spring is the only duo rerun for seasonals anymore
because theres literally no other springs to rerun right?
@lean mango nice! I just got back to 100k after a small time dipping under
I usually find that since 90% of strikers just get a nuke at 3/5, I end up candying less strikers waiting for ones that get more
I’m considering Lance 5/5
This is the first time they will give us 1.5% x2 for spring I think. Still not sure it is worth pulling. Togepi lost alot of appeal since release with recent support powercreep
If you want them, better get them while they're still a-round!
Lance 5/5 is a completely diff unit eh
Yeah I want to get the most value from candies rather than just “clears stage faster because of nuke”
Isn't lance 5/5 just more self buffs than 3/5m
But that’s hard because that’s what strikers usually do
Yeah but I like it when candies open up new team comps
I always prioritize MF for candies because they aren't feasible to spend on reruns even when they do finally come back
Well more lately than I used to
I don’t think I really ever pull for dupes
I don't pull for dupes. I meant I pull reruns on stuff I skipped first time
hm... speaking of reruns, think the last rerun that I pulled was back on Anni (Kyogre & Groudon's rerun banners) 
But this implies you’re willing to pull for dupes on rerun banners
Thanks 
I meant to respond to this
But I don’t think I’m ever willing to do that so I don’t think master fairs want candies any more than other units
Well for instance I got anni Raihan on rerun only because he also had good odds for dupes of other good units I hope get grid expansion
Fair
Going forward I plan to skip as many pf/seasonals as I can with plan to pull double or triple banners later
Only super meta stuff like unique zone would tempt me probably or a really rare fave
Like if May datamine sucks I would probably pull Steveland because he is so flexible and doesn't really need dupes. But otherwise I could skip all SC and pull an eventual quad banner hoping for most of them by pity
If you want them, better get them while they're still a-round!
man this bot is annoying 
Ball Guy bot should be disabled in this chat lol - he is telling us to pull
Is ball guy bot an ai?
ye
an annoying 1 too apparently
he reacts or responds to specific words
L
L moment
cooldown moment
I think they mean they pull on rerun banners for pairs they dont have and dupes of others on the banner
Yeah yeah I get it now
I dont pull dupes on rerun, i get dupes via fair selects 🐬
Still looking for sshilda, ssleon, falliris dupe
Definitely a good strategy if you're comfortable spending
(That being a big "if", of course)
Yep because if bad luck, might need pity to get a dupe on rerun...and i think 36.6k free gems is more than 3k or 5k paid
Fair selects.... remember those.... 
||I have Karen, I must save for LuSSa and avoid CMarnie!||
||Me and my 50505 gems can do it!||
can't really ever go for rerun dupes 
I'm trying to maintain a high gem count
and no paid gems 
I have never bought a paid gem.
I only have 3 limited supports
CCalem, HJasmine, and RedLax
Im thankful that DeNa made BP Master units all legendaries and supports. Cheap faves for me 
I got 6 limited support faves
Gem update 
i just wish theyd give them their exs.
They seem to have an allergy to mc ex
You better keep your eyeballs open!
how do we make ball guy be quiet.
I think you meant to say that in #poma-lounge ? Perhaps
Otherwise, hello mod controlling BG Ball Guy!
Automated message Ball Guy 
How many gems are in Ball Guy’s outfit? 
It's a shame we didn't get any selects at half anni 
We'll have to find out 
Ball Guy react has a cooldown
Shame that this game doesn’t have a CDR mechanic, huh ball guy
Isnt it kind of a waste to pay for a dupe tho?
A new pair maybe but a dupe, idk
Tolsan, when do you drop the Goh stuff
Ye ik, but is a select rlly worth it for dupes? Esp if they only have those 3 it shouldnt take too long to candy them
I'm in a weird position when it comes to saving
Not much to save for and some things to consider pulling for
But I'm not sold on either things
If you save your gems you’ll always have enough for your faves, like your pal Ball Guy!
im sorry ball guy, you are not a favorite for me.
but thanks for the words of wisdom.
...what the, he responded with a whole gif this time
the bot is getting smarter
That was scary to look at
was ball guy successful in taking over pasio 
Also, ball guy is somewhat tempting
It has a pokemon fave
I didn’t mean to scare you Im just so excited to be here!
|| yes ||
Mainly amoonguss is a big Unovan pokemon for me
WHAT
HE DIRECTLY RESPONDED TO HIGHLANDERS OTHER MESSAGE THAT WAS MULTIPLE MESSAGES AGO
ball guy really kidnapped trinnia huh
But I haven't played the main game where ball guy is in
This has to be an April fools thing at this point
well of course
||i mean, yeah, i think thats obvious||
ball guy I'm gonna miss you when trinnia is back!
||just like parker was a prank||
Ball Guy is invading Gem Zen 
nowhere is a safe spot
Trinnia is going to crack me open like an egg when the clock strikes midnight 
i still prefer the team break invasion last yr
he needs to stop tempting us though here.
Ball Creep kinda annoying now tbh 
NOOOO
yeah that was...something? i dont have a great enough memory to remember it that well

I miss Trinnia 
I know a safe spot! #plaza-stream-chat
No one goes there!

ngl, I didn't even know it existed
Worth it especially when i have a lot of pairs to candy...but now only these left
Techs: FallIris 2/5
Strikers: SsLeon 2/5, SsHilda 1/5
Support: Mesprit 1/5
But Mesprit will be done in this month
candy SS Hilda, she's cool 
FIris 
for units like ss hilda with 5/5 grid, are you aiming to unlock her full grid or stick to 3/5 only?
I will but not sure if i should finish ssleon first or start on her...because if I'm done with ssleon, if a fair select that have him appears, i wont need to pull it
Nope, for me 3/5 already enough for that unit to do what DeNa intended for it to do
5/5 is just overkill

Better that i spent that extra candies on another fave to make it 3/5
It does save my paid gems sometimes like the select scout before this that have ssdawn and ssmorty, i skipped it because i already have both 3/5
Is Sabrina’s DPS grid overkill
Ah ok, personally I have quite a few pairs I want so if I were to buy gems id prob just use it when one of them is on a select
Now we can see who’s really under the mask
You better keep your eyeballs open!
ball guy's got 20 more minutes of freedom or so if its till midnight... or what timezone is ball guy going off of? 
ballguys, like that acclaimed game with eggs racing?
Alright, gunna challenge myself to save until the next data mine. Sorry Steven number 5, your summer form and I'll see you later.
You better keep your eyeballs open!
Ball Guy no 😭
It's getting sentient help
Ball Guy yes
We are losing control of him!!

Gakon has been banned for speaking against the rule of Ball Guy.

what are we doing in this thats going to give us so many gems and literally nothing BUT gems, whuh???
...oh, its like that riddle one where we get new missions daily. ok
Can’t remember if last years riddles will make a return or not, I need to check the datamine.
Ya I guess no rerun riddles for the gems.
If it reran we would have 30k+ gem count 
Oh right.
Guys i need your all motivation to save gems please
(i dont Need any unit,im at the point i can pull for fun any unit)
Im getting tempted pull Lance Dragonite or Escavalier,Accelgor banner i have 47k gems atm
I like Escavalier costume EX,and lance looks fun to use now but prob need 5/5
Butt i have Volcarona 1/5 and genesect 3/5 hm,also bug zone could be cool to have,no?
Do you have any faves you'd like to get in the future?
But last month i pulled a lot,pulled volcanion and i regretted later,this the reason i wanna skip this month
Hmm as faves i would like Cynthia+Arceus butt wonder when,or Aqua Shelly too
Kris Suicune Pair Also i would like to have
And Gloria Urshifu another pair i want Just cause of character fave
I like her Kung fu outfit looks cool
Kris suicune btw yeah atm one of my highest priority i regret i didnt pulled her for example
Or you can, y'know, save now
This month +20k more gems in 24 days Is low or good amount?
If i save i reach 67k op
You how many gems do you have atm?
There are ~21k gems left this month
Oh nice
also keep in mind May+June should start Alola Villain Arc, so expect new alola pairs soon (including most likely due to her being milked a Sygna Suit Lillie of some kind)
like id be SURPRISED if she doesnt get a SS in her regions arc
Definitely a good time to start saving if you're an Alola fan
her, n, and serena seem to be three of denas "pet" pairs in terms of printing new versions of them
You better keep your eyeballs open!
which unfortunately also are my top 3 favs 
who else are contenders for most alts these days anyway? wondering who else contends for that role from dena... seems like theres a decent number of Gloria, but i can only think of like 3 of her excluding lodge

basically wondering who else has 4+ versions
(again excluding lodge)

lol, true, steven does have a lot
yeah alola va makes it inevitable
i hope its snowy 
although i assume it wont be
since, idk if she actually had a vulpix ingame
having a lillie to help me with ice type weak would be fun
but i can always get SS N in the future for that need if not
i prob should look up what other pokemon shes had in the games... or been associated with
...huh, the only ones shes had ingame i think have already shown up, excluding nebby
Lillie and Cosmog would actually be kinda cool haha
Cynthia, Morty, Erika, marnie
May
Blue
Blue has 4 right
Bluegeot, bluecanine, ssblue, cblue, lodgeblue
Right lodge
N, ssN, anniN, summerN, lodgeN
problem is lillie told us in anni lillie sync story that she gave Nebby to a friend in exchange for her lunala or someth like that
so unless they address that in VA, cosmog/etc isnt happening.
as much as id like that pairing
honestly the TL story for lillie makes me sus on if the MC might get a sygna for the finale arc whenever that happens, but... thats a huuuuge longshot.
they dont seem to want to give scottie and bettie anything aesthetic change wise
Yeah I don't think we can count on these very often going forward
This game enables my bad choices. I was almost back up to 8k but the spending Demon decided it wanted to ||summon a Bede||
How does one exorcize a demon of such devastation?
i dont think there's a "in exchange for a Lunala" part, but she gave it to a friend (aka protagonist)
Read her sync pair story
My friend, bede is wearing wizard cosplay. What are you doing wanting that guy
Go to a medieval fair instead of pulling for him
That's part of the appeal tbh
||Little beet academia||
This is the real problem. Different methods work for different people. Some like having a faves list and then they don’t value any pairs that aren’t favs which removes temptation. A good strategy is just closing the scout screen or closing the app. I personally think knowing the odds is really helpful, if you know that you’re not even gonna have a probable chance of getting something like a master fair until you have 24-36k gems, then it becomes a lot easier to not spend that 3k because chances are it’ll be a waste and you’ll feel bad afterwards
But spending time in this channel lets you see other people’s strategies and you can find what works for you
||instead of pulling a dude in wizard outfit, go play Hogwarts Legacy instead. Nearly all people wearing wizard outfit there ||
doesn't imply "exchange"
she gave Nebby away and got another Cosmog from the same person later on, at some point

Its called trading 
She did the SuMo event where you go in a parallel universr
If you like negative reinforcement I can provide that 
satisfying
Satisfiving
as much as it is, i think i can agree with this point
mostly those 3k selects are now reserved for reg pool only
limited selects have increased to 5k
and i believe they will continue to do that
they make the gems cheaper so that they want us to think that paying for 5k or even 10k paid gems for a select is less painful and ok to spend
plus they are now adding 5/5 shennegans
Aye
Luckily i dont chase 5/5 move level, i will be poor if i need to 5/5 all of my limited faves...well 3/5 already enough for the unit to do what DeNa intended for them to do so i dont think i need more QoL...well i dont mind power boost grids and 2/5 grids though
its included in 3/5 move level package
If i do go for 5/5, it most probably has to my fav and if the grid is worth the 5/5 powerups
And it won’t be solely from my gems
||Ngl i kinda want to 4/5 SS Wally. Maybe 5/5 SS Leaf too ||
Gotta keep my gem reserved intact
||I do kinda want 5/5 SS Diantha ||
But gotta look foward the future
|| I still have the goal to 5/5 FIris and Ball Guy but it's probably through candies||
Aight, i still believe Seasonal select scout will come so i can get a hand on some of my seasonal fav
Just not to Dena’s expected pattern of release
Same with Pokefair select scout
the only ||3 3+/5 I have are
- 4/5 SSLeaf from her banner + free copy from champ road
- 3/5 cyn from her first run + recent champion ticket copy
- 3/5 Gloria from prestige + a candy||
No regrets
I don’t have a single 4/5 or 5/5 Limited||, but I feel like I’m probably going to end up with Lillietea’s 4/5||
|| I only have 5/5 SS Blue, I gave him one candy and got 3 more pulling for marnie and lysandre, got one lysandre and 2 marnie but from her lodge banner in december ||
||Hopefully his 5/5 is good for your sake||
|| hopefully, but if not he works well with his current grid anyway ||
My only 4/5 is Cynthia haha
||i got 4/5 ssdawn and lucas, both got while doing fair select scout multi, iirc ssdawn while making ssleon 2/5...forgot which select scout i got lucas||
||I met my goal last year to 5/5 Summer N. Took like until September to get him 5/5 I think.||
I think I thought of one of the few cases where I’d consider ||pulling ||for gameplay reasons at this point rather than the trainer/mon now that I’ve got enough aoe damage dealers generally.
A physical aoe that bypasses passives at 4mg
Like a physical anni n
But tbh doubt we’re getting anything like that unless it’s a full anni

Aside from basically exactly that I think I’m safe from non favs at this point
Cause that’d be a solver for wise entry x2 with annoying passives
sst red doesn't use 4 gauges but b volt tackle is close enough to what you're describing
if you want a physical single target piercing blows unit, victor
you can use it infinitely as long as electric terrain is active
Dang that sounds crazy lol
Ya, if have 3 users that have electric terrain then that’s crazy.
idk in what scenario you need three electric terrain users when sst red wipes CSMM and LG in roughly 2 uses of terrain thanks to his terrain extension
Hoping for playable tapu koko with elec terrain stuff to buff my N Zekrom 
Volkner has ET tho.
Yup just luxray aint a legendary, mythicals, UBs
Hope either elec terrain, elec zone, elec rebuff will be at zapdos/xurkitree/zeraora/raikou/tapu koko/regieleki 
Ah so your faves are pokemons that are legendaries mythical and UBS.
Also will add Paradoxes 
I’m just chilling on my next fave to arrive.
My faves keep me strong to avoid pairs like scsteven that i know is kinda meta...but i cannot imagine myself having fun playing with shiny stoutland
who do you even use with N? don't think your fave only policy does him any favors
Thats also how i skip pikachus, frogs
Screw meta, go for faves
I use with ssdiantha and hop
Defense down, atk+crit buff is enough
Or i can go NCBede + N + sshilbert
Plenty team variations with just my faves 
Sometimes i just put cobalion, nita and N also can clear cs
The good news is that my faves won’t arrive for a very long time, making me have enough time to save.
Zeraora might come on alola VA
You also want it too right?
Hope there's elec fave on alola VA, im fine with either xurkitree/tapu koko/zeraora 
I probably will have 100k when April's over
Still waiting for the inevitable SS Lillie/Magearna
I would love magearna too
well if include May's gems i might can get 3 pities
I only have 1 fairy fave currently, sycamore 
I am growing afraid of skipping some of the available pairs, namely Marnie
Every time they do a master fair trio, I get two pairs and skip the third
Then come to regret it later
Lugia sounds like the kind of offensive pair I like to play the most
And Marnie has a similar vibe, although simpler
Do u have the gems? And I thought u dont have many favs rn anyway
I'm nearing two pities
Oh
My Unova collection only needs classic elesa to be finished
That also includes colress and hugh
For other regions, I guess I don't have any limited pair I'd want to collect besides Steven, at some point
Beyond them, I'd just pull for types I'm uncomfortable with, like flying
Flying, fire and ghost, most likely
Ur uncomfortable w fire? Silver is pretty good iirc
Mainly the units around him
Ah
He's fine, but I'd like SS Morty at some point to boost him up
Oh right ssmorty appeared on golden week last year so he might rerun this year on late april or early may
I'll save gems for him
Same, but for vilda
Victini hilda
have there been sygna suits where the trainer has no past association with the partner alot of the time? or do they usually have some past association?
cause if it is based on past association i have 0 clue what SS Lillie could be
other than nebby coming back somehow
Nebby who?
she called her cosmog Nebby
and we have confirmation from anni sync pair story that lunala is not Nebby
didnt find any other pokemon that she doesnt already have that lillies been associated with in the games on bulbapedia, rest that ive spotted are anime exclusive teamups
as much as id like it to happen i just dont see it happening tho bc mc got solgaleo and they already gave lunala to lillie. doubting theyd redo a legendary without it being shiny and nebby sure as hell aint shiny.
basically trying to theorize what the hell they could be planning for lillie, cause of how inevitable a sygna suit will be for the arc
Sslillie nihilego or magearna
Ss lillie alolan vulpix
That's really stupid I just read up on that
"This specifically isn't Nebby but I just happened to be given another Cosmog"
Ss korrina marshadow
Totally unrelated
But become a ss pair
it's a gacha game, they're free to do whatever
they didn't explain how a shiny ho-oh just descended from the heavens and made a pair with morty
or how Steven got the black worm
Yep, at least zinnia's rayquazza and ssleon eternatus got backstory
Oh right at least ssmorty event keep emphasis on Ho-oh will appear to strong trainers or something...but no background on how steven get shiny rayquazza
he just did ok
Victini + Hilda
well yeah but I can still find it stupid lol
Because Nebby will come in Alola VA with one of MCs
doubt it
unless we get lillie with cosmog I don't think Nebby will get in at this rate
(I get that wouldn't make any sense either because it would have had to been evolved by now but)
if the MC gets it that would be just insulting
why
Lillie gave Nebby away to mc tho
I think they already stopped with giving MC pairs with events...they will still do it with bp master pairs though
Nebby is a key character in the Alola story so its very likely it will come back
hm okay fair
but even so
Maybe MC will get 1 of the tapus as this anniv bp master unit, we still don't have any playable tapus
probably Alola MCs, not Scottie and Bettie
i just want black haired evil Lusamine
this
if they go halfway and give her nihilego at least I'd be okay with that
Oh about alola protags, i hope so that they can relate nebby with current selene and elio...because its not like lillie or alola protags being ported to pasio in their backstory so not much issue to give one of them nebby
yeah I meant selene and whatshisname not scottie and bettie
elio
Iirc the ones ported by hoopa are giovanni, cyrus, ghetsis, zinnia's rayquazza, Maxie's groudon, archie's kyogre...other legendaries came to pasio without any mention of hoopa rings
scottie bettie will probably appear but just get an EX and expansion
Hope MC got EX, then i can hopium for BP Master MC having EX 
i wouldn't mind neo champions from Alola, but that's quite early for a double+ MF again
if anything i could see them break the pattern and make the next neo champion event about Unova with Ghetsis being a menace
Yep, unova still missing 2 master passives...so probably they will get neo champ next 
I hope Nate will get it, I don't care the other one because rosa already have plenty alts so no difference between her/hilda/hilbert
I'm also wondering if they will cram Galar VA before anni or not
even Nate?
Yes, give Nate Meloetta or terrakion 
Ghetsis Ultimate Villain, Nate Neo Champion
They still haven't address the missing N's Reshiram 
"if you forget then it's not important"
New milestone achieved: 5th pity
Getting close to halfway to pity ||…and closer to lussamine stealing it all!
||
Really really hope this fav doesn’t leave me empty handed gem wise for va but she probably will.
How long do va pt1 pairs normally stay for?
they last longer, typically. all the way until part 2 leaves
Figured I’d ask to get a general idea if I might be limited to pt2 pairs if I have to spark or might be able to pick pt1 pair if pt2 doesn’t interest
Cool that’s great news for me then
Was scared if sygna suit Lillie landed in part 1 I might miss her lol
ima rest easier now that I know if a Lillie alt does drop I’m unlikely to miss it as long as I hold strong!
||if a gladion alt drops and not enough for two pities plus summer pity tho I might be in trouble.||
Either way I guess I’ll have to judge my budget estimates next data-mine, would be glad if it dropped early for budget knowing sake ||but lussa banner makes me think no early datamine Gonna happen, so I’ll have to hope I exit her banner unscathed.||
I wonder if we will get another Alola MF for VA, at first i thought they won't run a MF due to lussamine banner is running and then i remembered, Leon banner runs alongside Galar Trio just fine
If they do it’d prob be Pride
Yep
I don’t think we have Pride yet for alola
Hope it goes to Gladion
Gladion with his badass lycanroc would be hype. Or like, guzzlord would be cool too.
That thing could throw down real hard in fights it looked like in the show, and I’m pretty sure he had one ingame too?
(In terms of lycanroc)
Idk if there’s a specific ub that’d really suit him
I do hope one of these next two months though might be gladion grid expansion if he somehow doesn’t get an alt
Gladion deserves something for once
I just hope we wont have 4+ MFs for every region like galar and sinnoh 
We are inevitably going to someday assuming game doesn’t go eos by then let’s be honest
It’s a matter of when rather than if I feel
Sinnoh has only 2 MFs tho
Bcz it has 2 FBs its going to have 4 eventually
I mean all regions are going to have 4 eventually
Why?
because they will keep running master fair scouts
Tru 
Because talking in eventualities doesn't get us anywhere
I mean they’d have to make a sinnoh pride and spirit so it would be 4 atleast
Yep i can see 4+ MF every region happening especially now i think Neo Champions are one of the gateway for units with duplicate master passives...another method is anniversary pairs.
Plus we are getting multi master fairs per anni and even half anni at this point. We’ll probably get there pretty fast if something like 3.5 anni becomes the anni norm
~~or we could get more reruns
~~
Something like Johto trio in between too
Reruns print less money for dena than new ones usually
Dena is only going to increase the number/frequency from here

1-2 MF between now and Anni are safe expectations
Dena is wanting profit so of course they’ll print more as we go
I wonder if galar will get more MFs for the VA, since its close to anni but they already have 4
Yep, i guess i kinda happy because it helps me as i can skip non faves MF and instead hopium that a MF with same passive but with fave will appear later instead
So i can skip non faves like pikachus, lucario, frogs, leonzard
Idrc for the masterfair title, but if I miss one that I like it seems like it takes ~1.5 yrs to rerun
im already waiting for 4 including lussa
Ngl more than masterfair i hate 5/5 pokefair tiles
And the fact that they gave us 6 limiteds in a month with 24k gems
True
same, i have to pity both anyways 
The only good thing abt 5/5 tiles is when they give it to older fairs they’ll rerun them
Like masterfairs have good 1/5 and 2/5 grids generally
But 1 per month…. 
maybe not good 1/5 grids, but all essentials tend to be in passives and moves
Also some stupid tiles like shelters or unbending and stuff
i dislike when superb stuff is at 4 or 5
100%
I’m glad they’re giving more candies?
because I'm sure as hell not going to invest and sometimes the unit just doesn't feel cool enough without it
All 5/5 expansions should be like Anni May
they don't though?
4/5 and 5/5 is fine if the pair was already great at 1-3
what constitutes as great
I mean like they were already pretty OP without their expansion
for me it's relative
But if they were already terrible (like lysandre I think) and only become good after 4/5 then it sucks
if the pair is good but a lot of the possibilities is locked further i will be unhappy
like, with 5/5 changing all the choices in your grid like Gloria
Yeah her too w dc9 and steel rebuff

I hate it as well, that's why i treat them like they didn't exist...i still grab the 2/5 tiles though 
I hate dena because I love zacian but I'm not pulling a 2% banner for 4 more copies
Hopefully she appears with 2 good units I don't have to make a road to 5/5 possible
I just be content with my 3/5 gloria. Her 2/5 grids are also already a nice upgrade from before as it's cs2 and sharp entry 1...i just gonna wait for power boost grid expansion like the ones that cynthia and lance get 
Well they dont do it for gloria as well...maybe they alternate it, Caitlin is the one that gets horizontal expansion this month
I think they only care to horizontal free unless a limited unit is way outdated in power
Well steven and gloria are kinda outdated, N as well
But lance and cynthia are the one that got it early 
Thats what im hoping for w gloria steven and N
need them for lodge but dont rlly want to pull for them
I mean the characters r cool but eh
next month
Have to be consistent with the fact that the first three versions of Steven all have to be the most mid possible
BTW, the new Champion Stadium parameters have all been a great addition and they require 0 investment for players with knowledge of the game and a deep rooster
They have however highlighted the need for more supports on my end, mostly for efficiency reason. Unfortunately, the only big support name that I’m missing is HJasmine, which I aim to get as a select down the line.
So in the next coming months I’ll be on the look out for new strong support units, especially with incorporated weather and/or zone, which may be a good addition to my teams. Hope to see Alola VA deliver some of my faves in this role, since as of right now I feel like I’m okay with all my striker and tech needs, and am currently working on 3 units of each type to candy to 3/5
I wouldn't call metagross mid tbfh
It's a pretty fun unit with sustain, autosetups and flinch spam
It just does meh af DPS
But sync and utility are way above mid
yeah, it's really more of a utility unit from the way I see it. I like the nuke though
I'm struggling right now with a really big want to get Anniversary May, but my gem count is too low while preparing for Alola VA which is my favorite region
I'm worried they might not rerun or select her due to being anniversary tied
She'll cone back eventually
Would you be frustrated if you were too short to pull on an Alola unit because you went for Anni May? Does she mean that much to you?
why would you want her? collection reason?
mainly Latias because of childhood memories from the movie
you're right i probably would hate myself
then you might have your answer 
i'd also examine your thoughts for May herself
i had 130k on Feb but ||Galar trio sadly||
if you're meh on her as a character, I'd also recommend skipping
Just noticed that "g" is different
since PMEX is more focused on humans than 'mons
she might rerun at 4th anni
Think its discord
that's my own hopium anyways, since that's how i convinced myself...
Ok, well i guess for the greater good of the alolan va then
do you think you'll want every Alola unit that drops? or is it only specific characters that will tempt you?
||You got burnt almost 100k on galar birds what were their scout points||
what are the scout points on the duo banner?
honestly probably most of them
whatever drops, it's Alola
Aether family? Amazing
Elio/Selene? Best case scenario
Lana/Kiawe gang? Great surprise
Kahunas? Unbelievable
||237/400|| i'm leaving that as a loss i cannot be tempted to continue
yeah you gotta dip
it definitely sounds like you need to stop, yeah
if you'll want all the Alola units, it's time to knuckle down
if you want all of alola va thats 3-5 units easy
||After my bede pity i just gave up on pulling the other birds ||
aye at this point it's far from guaranteed i get most of them, so i understand
which is already going to be rough
yeah...
well in any case i appreciate getting it out so you can hold me accountable if i dip
but having said it, i now feel more comfortable not dipping
to not let you down and myself








