Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)

[ashen thunder]

Coz powerful trainers are known for those types of pokemons

[violet nebula]

Maybe Dena don't have enough waifu

[ashen thunder]

Can only bring nobodies like hop to MF

[violet nebula]

We know they don't like the lads as they don't sell

[ashen thunder]

If they want to do fighting type dps as MF

I kinda lost the MF hype already ever since double frogs happened

Since calem and serena aren't rly "MF material" for me atleast

Now they just put that tag to sell the unit for kit

Atleast johtrio were like full on legendary pokemons

Plus protags

[unborn pier]

You also get a hefty amount of gems for progress so gen missions and that

[topaz compass]

I mean, master fairs get the extra Move multiplier and damage reduction with the passive. It doesn't mean nothing

[sturdy flower]

they do lack some build up to that status, yeah

would be nice if they made some buildup few months in advance for stuff like that

for example a scene of Calem and Serena training hard with their frogs

[opaque cargo]

Shiny greninja is good tho. So nice looking

[sturdy flower]

but as kits they are 100% MF

i'd even say C Serena > C Hop

[opaque cargo]

C Hop. He need better outfit dont ya think?

The only thing i hate about leon is that cape. Now hop wearing em too.

[sturdy flower]

he's on the level of EX SST Red

(outfit wise only)

I'm not going to list positives of his on this channel tho

[ashen thunder]

Chop kit is MF

But is hop even MF worthy

Hell

Is he even PF worthy?

[sturdy flower]

Did he win even one battle

ever

[ashen thunder]

Hugh and colress are gen pool

While no name galar people are MF

[sturdy flower]

both are cooler

[ashen thunder]

Galar already breaking patterns
First Marnie PF
Then inteleon summer seasonal while every other starter was gen pool till then (except zard coz ofc it's zard)
Now no name people get MF

Can't wait for inevitable super master fair and they make hop the first one for galar

[clever oyster]

33550 gems

[signal halo]

Super master fair sounds like 0.5% featured rate and 15% for 5 stars

[feral vale]

No more Galar limiteds, please…

[timber wren]

the rivals of a region are now no name characters?

[ashen thunder]

Yes, more galar limiteds

[timber wren]

MFs started with champions and villains (leon, archie, maxie), then quickly moved to rivals (lillie, N)

and now protags (johtrio, ash, red, etc)

[ashen thunder]

So basically anyone can be MF
Clearly

[rare swan]

we need more villain master fairs

we need more villain alts in general

I used CyruSS for the Galar EBEs and man

[timber wren]

guzma MF

[ashen thunder]

I can't wrap my mind for how hop is as significant as a character compared to Lillie or N

[sullen hedge]

gosh i cant believe im more excited for ball guy than any of the anni units

[rare swan]

villain alts my beloveds

[ashen thunder]

[sullen hedge]

archie alt where the v is deeper/wider 😳

[ashen thunder]

They can be rivals
But there are standards for it

Like Shauna MF where?

[sullen hedge]

no e4 MF

[ashen thunder]

We don't even have drasna or malva summonable

Forget MF for em

Tho if galar had E4, we'd have em as MFs as well ig

[sturdy flower]

Neo Champion Lillie, Gladion and Hau

[timber wren]

the kalos rivals and hugh are probably the only rivals i can see not getting MF someday. maybe barry and wally get cut too but all the other rival characters are pretty popular

[sturdy flower]

if DeNa follows a pattern for once

i'd rather get Lillie, Elio and Selene tho

[sturdy flower]

sadly, I'm a big fan of Hugh

but he's unlucky to be in a region with N and 4 protags

[timber wren]

precisely

[ashen thunder]

Poor Bianca

And cheren

[signal halo]

Cheren is suffering the most

[sullen hedge]

marlon

[ashen thunder]

In unova you are either train bros or N

[signal halo]

Got a grid, but can't access it

[sullen hedge]

or drayden

[ashen thunder]

Others get abandoned in railway station

[signal halo]

And the grid sucks

Doesn't Hilbert have 2 alts?

I'm unsure about Hilda, but she should have some too

[ashen thunder]

Hilbert and Hilda do

2 alts for em

Rosa as well

Poor

[timber wren]

hilda has a lot

[signal halo]

What about Skyla too?

[timber wren]

and elesa

[signal halo]

And Elesa

[timber wren]

unova has so many popular characters there isn’t really room for the rivals to shine

[signal halo]

Iris also has a couple alts

[ashen thunder]

Hilda I can remember emboar, victini, and that stupid octopus name I can't remember

[sullen hedge]

the only galar unit im waiting on is milo

[signal halo]

Grapploct?

[timber wren]

even alder, one of the champs is kinda left by the wayside

[ashen thunder]

Ah that one

[timber wren]

she has special costume with diancie too

[signal halo]

Alder was doomed by the moment Cynthia declined dinner with him

[feral vale]

Cheryl MF :0

[ashen thunder]

Oh yea
wait why does she even have diancie

[timber wren]

she and diantha swapped regional mythicals

[signal halo]

Also yeah, alder is pretty much the most forgotten champion

Followed by lance, I'd say

[ashen thunder]

Well alder was defeated by N offscreen

Lance is pretty popular

[signal halo]

Steven got psychic arceus

[ashen thunder]

Thanks to the memes about his lineup

[signal halo]

Cynthia might as well have all csmm badges at one point

Ground, dragon, fighting, ghost and the list should grow

[ashen thunder]

Well she did have a variety in her roster

[signal halo]

Iris has a couple alts

Diantha is likely top 3 in two different types

[ashen thunder]

The initial champions didnt variety in their roster aside from blue

[signal halo]

Alola is a scam

[reef river]

Do you think Alder, N, or Iris will be the champion judge for Unova Neo Champ? It would be kinda cool to get a Neo Champ Alder since he's been out of the champion seat for so long

[signal halo]

And Leon has his share of alts

[reef river]

And i just want an alder alt

[signal halo]

I want alder's grandson

[ashen thunder]

Alder and buffolaunt
I believe

[reef river]

Normal zone

[signal halo]

Because his name is an inappropriate slang in my language

Also could bring fire type shiny volcarona

[unborn pier]

neo champ Kukui when

[ashen thunder]

Normal zone before ice zone

Ngl I can actually see that happen

[timber wren]

holiday whitney gameing

[reef river]

Normal zone will hopefully come with some extra benefits

Like the unit will have zone extension and some additional buff to normal units

[sturdy flower]

normal zone and rebuff at once

[topaz compass]

They should just make a mechanic where the lack of zone means it is a normal zone by default. So your normal teams have incentive to block any zones

That is better than relying on a new unit or 2 to provide normal zone

[violet nebula]

But that doesn't make Dena monies😆

[sturdy flower]

that's broken

[violet nebula]

That to

[ashen thunder]

Miltank meta if that's a thing

[violet nebula]

With that body slam

[sly breach]

They would make a normal type zone setter with a permanent zone passive instead master fair too

[reef river]

Whitney ex in normal zone will go crazy

[ashen thunder]

Psure whitney ex with normal zone would nuke harder than terrain Lear post haze

[timber wren]

total gem count for february posted in #1010223517565976737 , thanks @thorny pelican as always. also update candy coin chart thanks to Tlim's data

[iron robin]

i currently have two striker candies that i want to spend on anni lillie (shes 1/5) but im also waiting for any potential hau and gladion alts to spend candies on. (obv not guaranteed and it's not likely they would be strikers 😔)
so im debating whether or not if i should spend the candies now or wait more

[hasty umbra]

doesn't hurt to wait, her grid is mostly QoL

I get the feeling of wanting characters you like at their full potential, but you can always candy later once you are sure, and by then you'll likely have more candies

[iron robin]

i see.. and that is true, i am close to getting another striker candy anyway
ty for ur input

[vestal leaf]

Alola VA is gonna probably be in next 3 months so I'd definitely save

[hard wave]

So does it seem like anni (2.5) pairs will be rerunning like normal PFs or just on anni?

[tough oriole]

We wouldn’t know; we only have 1 recorded rerun

[oak crest]

Does that mean defog will set normal zone since it removes terrain effects in this case...

Sounds broken

[sturdy flower]

Lisia starts to win

[tough oriole]

Holiday Whitney would have awkward synergy

[signal halo]

A normal zone setter with rebuff might be more than enough

I kinda want it to be Lenora and cinccino

[sturdy flower]

doubt she can get anything more than a spotlight

[hard wave]

Courtney has zone so

[sturdy flower]

but let's be honest... her kit wouldn't save normal

[ashen thunder]

Whitney ex+zone would save normal

[lunar topaz]

True for both Whitney’s

[signal halo]

I could say I'm unsure if Lenora can even get a spotlight

[tardy fiber]

Make normal zone also give physical dmg up and special dmg up to make it up to par to types that have weakness advantage

[patent haven]

how many ten pulls are enough for 224 pity points

Or how many gems are needed for that amount

[timber wren]

six multis and nine singles (20,700 gems)

[patent haven]

So would i able to get that amount if i save all the gems coming soon this month?

Assuming i have No gems

[hasty umbra]

yes

[compact pasture]

Reached 2 pities!

[oak crest]

Back to zenning again

[lunar topaz]

Man saving my beloved

[tight bison]

I've done it, I've reached 100k free games

[sturdy plank]

back to saving again

[broken mulch]

Aww I won’t hit double pity at the end of the month

Not even 70k

[sweet tide]

Pls go RT the rally posts we have less than 24h

[rare swan]

Great saving everyone!

[sullen hedge]

I finally have 1 nice number

[oak crest]

5k more to go... x.x

[tardy fiber]

I already RT since the day it first appeared

[broken mulch]

Wait when is it over again?

Also by my count we still need 3,700 retweets

[hasty umbra]

it's more than 24h

wait, hmm, do I have my timezones wrong?

[broken mulch]

By my count less than 48 hours yeah

[hasty umbra]

interesting, they'll distribute rewards 24h after the rally ends, I don't recall them being that quick in recent times

[broken mulch]

Special occasion I guess

[cursive grotto]

I'm feeling a moment of weakness for the neo's. I think I'm most interested in Marnie or Hop for their pokemon (and hop's outfit!) But I'm really afraid I'll be making a mistake by pulling. Help either soothe my anxiety or put me on track?

[hasty umbra]

why do you think it'd be a mistake? also, they'll stay for a month, those banners leave on April 9th

you can always wait to see what's in store for next month

[cursive grotto]

I'm real worried they suck and I'm being blinded by novelty

[drowsy saddle]

Most modern units are good, relax

[broken mulch]

As far as Galar halfversary units go, meta wise, they’re all good

[drowsy saddle]

Check tierlists if you're worried about meta placements

[broken mulch]

Great even. Question is do you really like them

[cursive grotto]

I think so! I really like the galarian legendaries, at least.

[weary spire]

I like them (Mainly G!Zapdos & G!Moltres), but not enough to really consider them favs really

What else do you like about the pair?

And what’s ultimately most important to you?

[sweet plaza]

Marnie is good ill admit that, but you shouldn't pull for hop

Hop is really underwhelming

[uncut pewter]

Underwhelming? Really?

Serious question, not ironic

[maiden kayak]

underwhelming yes out of the 3

djgloria can do the job at lesser value

[lament hornet]

tbh hop is at least zone on demand, but yeah, niche already kinda exists in ssa cynthia

[uncut pewter]

I've cleared the Extreme Battle with SC Diantha, SSA Cynthia and Bea, it was a piece of cake lol

Zone on demand would have made it easier ofc, but who cares

[lament hornet]

ye

[grim plover]

how is underwhelming the second highest nuke in the game. And that is without rebuff

[uncut pewter]

Because being the second highest nuke in the game does not matter if that changes every month

[grim plover]

that applies to c.marnie too

[uncut pewter]

And that's why so many players are not pulling for her

[rotund sleet]

no way 😱

[vestal leaf]

Aura Cyn with 5x stats should carry most people

[ashen thunder]

Keldeo still cleankills with it's nuke after supp ex so

I doubt hop is doing anything different even with zone

It's not the gap Marnie put up with rest of the dark dps options

[rotund sleet]

ik i was joking

this EBE looks more f2p friendly than the previous one though, but i don’t wanna ex sonia

[uncut pewter]

Yeah having boost for typing instead of theme skills is really a life saver

[oak crest]

If Leon's EBE had typing its gonna be too easy

we have a notable amount of mixed fire attackers too

[rotund sleet]

didn’t have to ex her

[tardy fiber]

Hope alola VA EBE is easy as well, hopium for Main Character boost due to MC Solgaleo

[hard wave]

ash and frogs will destroy that for me hopefully

Rn my best alola dps is probably anni lillie, hoping I can get luSSa idk if she’s better

[uncut pewter]

is there anything that they can't destroy? kek

[hard wave]

Ash doesnt rlly do good w off region EBEs without red

[vestal leaf]

Kinda aged, kinda meh offtype I feel

Depends on stage tbh

[hard wave]

Just hoping its not too hard as alola limiteds arent the best

Anabel, pallow, f-acerola, sc guzma, lillie (sc, ny, and anni), luSSa I think

[rare swan]

I'm sure there will be a bunch of baity Alola VA pairs to make up for it

but we'll Save Gems

[topaz compass]

I love this game

I will be ready for Alola

Ice zone coming finally I can feel it

[timber wren]

ss lillie and avulpix

enjoy

(i will enjoy)

[topaz compass]

Yes exactly the pair I expect

[vestal leaf]

I'd skip because I'm boycotting lillies

🗿

[topaz compass]

She will be PF with B move while we get MF gladion hopefully

[timber wren]

to their credit she hasnt had an alt in a year

[vestal leaf]

Just like Marnie...ah wait

[topaz compass]

I already forgot what last Lillie was

[timber wren]

polteageist

[vestal leaf]

Marnie: mid Feb 2022-late Feb 2023

Lillie: April 2022 - may 2023?

[topaz compass]

Oh okay yeah that was awhile

[vestal leaf]

I'm expecting may to be Alola va

[timber wren]

fair expectation

[topaz compass]

Maybe Vulpix could copy shinyGard and have both zone and rebuff

[rare swan]

I can't see her getting Vulpix for the VA

but maybe she'll get a winter pair too

[timber wren]

hear me out tho: ilima and drampa normal zone spotlight

[vestal leaf]

I can definitely see Alola vulpix or ninentales

Being Alola VA

[rare swan]

really?

seems a bit....underwhelming

[vestal leaf]

Maybe as gen pool

[rare swan]

for Lillie? never

she'll 100% be limited

[vestal leaf]

Variety

[rare swan]

[vestal leaf]

That actually sounds accurate lol

[timber wren]

alola ninetales is one of the most popular alola mons, i can def see it for a seasonal or PF

[vestal leaf]

I feel like it would be an easy winter unit

[timber wren]

like how we got ampharos

[vestal leaf]

But again, we had 2 years of lolz

Actually

3 years

[timber wren]

out of 4 years of holiday units we've only had two ice types

[vestal leaf]

Random togekiss & comfee

[vestal leaf]

To be fair winter deer and delibird make sense

[timber wren]

anyways ninetales is iconic enough as the staple partner for alola's most popular character, she can very easily get it for VA

[rare swan]

huh

didn't realize it was that much of a Thing

[timber wren]

mostly from the anime

[tardy fiber]

This reminds me of the past Fighting event but they released water type djgloria and ghost type sskorrina

[uncut pewter]

Man I will throw my wallet to the phone so hard for alt Lillie + shiny A9

[vestal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/trainer-lillie-lillie-pokemon-pokemon-sun-and-moon-gif-25511169

[rare swan]

ohh

i don't watch the anime, so

[vestal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-vulpix-cute-alolan-form-petted-gif-15323957

SuMo is worth watching imo

Anyway, I really hope next month is ez skip

Because this month's gonna kill my finances

[rare swan]

it is nice to have a recovery month

but it looks like I'm in the minority

glad people are getting their faves, though!

[vestal leaf]

I mean why would you save if you're not ready to spend when faves come

But it's always worrying

[tardy fiber]

Yep im happy, now only left to find more fairy/electric/poison fave

[timber wren]

you were on a hot streak for three months tai you deserve a break

[vestal leaf]

Because the future pairs are an incognita

[rare swan]

so true cami that was a wild ride

[vestal leaf]

Well to be fair

[sweet tide]

RT Rally done! summary is updated

[tardy fiber]

Normal faves probably i can keep aside, not like there's content weak to normal

[vestal leaf]

Kalos got "only" 2 MFs and in a 3 months split

I was so expecting a third

For part 2

That would've definitely been aggravating

[tardy fiber]

We missing AZ

[vestal leaf]

Yeah that was my guess

[rare swan]

I was happy for only 2 MFs

2 is enough

[vestal leaf]

Definitely

Lol

2+2 is relatively affordable if you're dedicated

My face when I like Bede and gmoltres and gzapdos

[timber wren]

alola could get the johto treatment but they really need PFs

[tardy fiber]

Still conflicted if i should collect Eternal Flower Floette if it appears in PoMa. It is kinda a mythical

[tardy fiber]

They could fix this by releasing neo champ alola

[vestal leaf]

That's definitely in my expectations

Both elio and Selene are altless

[tough oriole]

Just wait for kalos remakes first

[vestal leaf]

And they don't really fit into VAs

Imho

[sweet tide]

alola gonna get 3 masterfairs in june tho LOL

[tardy fiber]

I wonder if Neo Champs will be the platform for duplicate MF passive, well ssacynthia is a special case as DeNa is riding anime hype...but CBede having same passive with Leon

[sweet tide]

or at minimum 2, if they choose to rerun ss lusamine

[tardy fiber]

Neo Champ Hoenn probably have duplicate MF passive with Maxie Archie

[chrome nest]

Isn’t ebs just to test out baity units anyways

[tardy fiber]

Well kinda good news to me, if a MF passive stuck to a pair that is not my fave. I can hopium for duplicate MF passive to stuck to a fave

Neo Champ Leaf with Mega Mewtwo X ...let her have duplicate MF passive of Ash/sstred

[uncut pewter]

Did we really reached the 30k retweets thing? I just looked on Twitter and it looks like we are still missing some

[tardy fiber]

Japan have 20.1k
Eng have 9708

[sly breach]

Well then || 3k gems to fuel my pull addiction when is it coming||

[grim plover]

||Well i got hop at 10 pulls ;-;||

decided to go for the pity anyways

but i least i got gladion and wally at 3/5

[timber wren]

please spoiler that

[grim plover]

like that?

[timber wren]

yes thanks, we avoid talking directly about pull results in here

[grim plover]

ok

[tardy fiber]

Man, why does those that retweet JP post don't retweet at ENG post

20.1k vs 9087

[chrome nest]

I mean we’re that close

We should be able to complete it by tomorrow

[broken mulch]

Sweet less than 1k needed

[topaz compass]

You guys wouldn't have to save much for birds if you prayed at the altar asking for them like I did

My faith has been rewarded

[glossy isle]

quick question: when will the RT rewards be sent? Thx for the answer

[rancid wraith]

March 5th

A day after Bede MF scout starts

[glossy isle]

Ah, okayy, thx for the info

[buoyant elk]

Probably they will make neo champion red with shiny mega Charizard Y

With a passive similar to the ash one and blast burn hit the gas 5

Like fuel economy + hit the gas 5

[sly breach]

Lol this means dena can then sell another red alt

I thought if it would come it would be red and mega mewtwo x but this allows them sell us 2 pairs worth pulling than one

[sturdy flower]

Elaine and Mewtwo

[compact pasture]

There's an altar?

[topaz compass]

Not a physical one

We hit the 30k RT? Weeeee

Well I do have alot of bird trio tcg cards

[sweet tide]

ok now we rly hit 30k RTs distribution is on 5 march reset

[cunning swan]

[topaz compass]

Our complains about delayed payoff finally paid off

Now we know it is possible to be fast. Going forward they have no excuses

[rotund sleet]

ill hit 70k at the end of march

[cunning swan]

Road to 4th pity

[timber wren]

lotta good saving in here

[sturdy flower]

now that rally is over

we can start another one

[sweet tide]

for ball guy maybe

but i have 0 hopes

since there is a welcome rally for him already

[topaz compass]

I need moral support. Emma is tempting but I know longterm her kit is boring and lacks synergy with Nagandel

[sturdy flower]

||you were lucky and now are getting greedy, eh?||

[glass abyss]

Do you even have Nagandel?

I know my reasoning is “No Nagandel? No Emma.”

But even then she’s just not really an attractive unit in a game where meta isn’t strong and favourites are cool actually

And I don’t know anyone who would dare lie and say that Emma is their favourite character in Pokemon

[sturdy flower]

she's cute

i can't see how anyone can like Lysandre for example

[cunning swan]

Tai will be typing furiously when they see this

[sturdy flower]

the point of view depends on where you sit, is what I'm getting at

[timber wren]

i was similarly tempted by emma to have a decent partner for iris but it would just be for her kit, not her character or outfit or pokémon. so i’ll just wait for a better poison option like klara

[sturdy flower]

"i can't see how anyone can like X or Y" is not a solid argument for or against a character

[timber wren]

X or Y do get a bad rap yeah

[hasty umbra]

Imagine people liking different things

[sturdy flower]

i didn't hear the rap song in the game, maybe I missed it

[sweet tide]

wait for ms oleana in 5 mths 🥱

[topaz compass]

I think Emma is really cute. But a 3rd Crobat is the worst thing ever even if only 0 or 1 other ones would actually be on the team

I do have Nagandel

[feral vale]

He’s important to me for multiple reasons.

[cunning swan]

Plot twist, she's in NPC jail

[topaz compass]

She is cool but not sure Garbodor is exciting. I'd prefer Lusamine/Nihilego

[sturdy flower]

Garbodor my beloved money sponge in PoGo

[still moss]

Legitimate question for those who have gotten over 100k saved non-paid gems….how are you getting there? Is it purely just skipping everything?

I want to get to that level one day but that would be about 4 months at least of skipping every single unit that releases 🫠

[sturdy flower]

Not wanting much and getting lucky sometimes

if it goes too low I start to skip more aggresively

[lean mango]

tbh I didn't really like him at first, I really only wanted his Yveltal but overtime I became interested in his character and his viewpoint

I like XY what they were trying to do even if it fell a bit short

[deft glen]

~~Watch they copy the anime and give Gladion Shiny Nihilego ~~

[sweet tide]

inb4 nihilego is rock.....with b power gem

[sweet tide]

looking @ how they are putting random azz pairs in arcs now, she has a high chance of debuting w rose

[sturdy flower]

does that count as Lillie alt

[sweet tide]

lillie about to get her 2nd masterfair

[sturdy flower]

Neo Champion Lillie is surely coming at some point

there's just no way they will skip her

[sweet tide]

maybe next yr 🤷‍♂️

[sturdy flower]

next arc should have only like 1 MF max right

they wouldnt do 3 2-3 3 right

[sweet tide]

no u should expect 3 lol

because ss johto

[sturdy flower]

yeah, but half anni didnt have any back then...

oh right, it had 1 right after

[sweet tide]

well there was serena

they could do a duo + ss lusa rerun

[sturdy flower]

so I'm expecting 1 but preparing for 3

[sweet tide]

but looking @ how ss serena didnt rerun for kalos

[lean mango]

Would be cool tho, as long as they make it Poison I don't care

[sweet tide]

could be 3 new mfs, with the assumption that lusamine gets a new alt like gio did

[sturdy flower]

i just want Selene PF+

[sweet tide]

selene could be mf

with elio lillie

[lean mango]

There are 5 possible Poison units I can actually forsee

[deft glen]

maybe, his nihilego is named Lillie

[sweet tide]

gladion/hau could be the ss morty for alola
ss lusamine is the ss gio
and 3 masterfairs in june

🤷‍♂️

[deft glen]

I want Selene with Lele

[sturdy flower]

if I roll for both Hau MF and Hop MF the past me would shoot me

[lean mango]

I just hope SS Lusamine is actually a Poison type

[sweet tide]

feels like a tapu koko + dawn wings necrozma combo for alola tbh

[sturdy flower]

Selene and Zeraora

[lean mango]

Disappoint in SS Gio

[deft glen]

Oh, Dawn Wings Necrozma is cool

[sturdy flower]

i don't like how heavy he is

i didnt know it will be THAT bad

[sturdy flower]

yeah, because of that card

[lean mango]

He's a fake Poison unit

[sweet tide]

with psy terrain extension 10/10

[sturdy flower]

i really dont like the lightbulb necrozma look

its a sad legendary

turns from very cool design into poop

[lean mango]

lightbulb necrozma?

[sturdy flower]

https://img.pokemondb.net/artwork/large/necrozma-ultra.jpg

https://tenor.com/view/blind-spongebob-blinded-myeyes-sizzle-gif-4692090

[rotund sleet]

cheese dragon

[tidal turtle]

@dry lynx This channel can give you suggestion

[dry lynx]

I see thx

[dry lynx]

Imagine having gems though

[lean mango]

You can start having gems now

[past gate]

you can start!

[lean mango]

Never too late to start saving

[sly breach]

Damn ||i have a device that i just start a new game do a pull and delete the save when i want to do it again but it aint helping my pull addiction as much as i thought||

[tidal turtle]

Pulling on a banner is not a good idea unless you have at least 36.600 gems

you have to resist

[lean mango]

You really shouldn't feed you addiction even if what your pulling is ultimately worthless, best to help an addiction is find something else that is not that and resist pulling at all

[tidal turtle]

36.600 will guarantee a pity for the featured unit

but still you need to be lucky to never reach that point

[lean mango]

It's not about getting the unit what he's trying to accomplish but helping his pull addiction tho

Having another game for that won't really help in the end as you are still pulling, feeding your addiction

[feral vale]

I mean, what stopped me was a wakeup call in missing a fav because I screwed up how I should’ve used my gems.

Wouldn’t want that to happen to you

[hasty umbra]

I've played so many resource management games that I'm surprised I was reckless with gems at first lol, but I realized fairly soon thankfully

[feral vale]

I have 60k gems right now, haven’t gotten that high before~ ^^

[sly breach]

Was 61 ||then a yolo so back to 58k||

[hasty umbra]

my highest has been, uhh, like 85k or so, sometimes I go all the way down to like 1k (very rarely tho and if it happens is RNG being not so kind) but never dropping the saving habit of course, currently at 46k ||after Hop||

[sly breach]

My fear ||is if i do get back to under 5k gems that i would just go back to constant yolo pulls ||

[lean mango]

Highest I've gotten was around 105k

Took me some time to rid of my habit but it's gotten me to a high number and hopefully higher

[cunning swan]

Highest i'm at is right now, 135k

[lean mango]

Gem count, should tell that I've reached my second pity once again

[hasty umbra]

huh, funny they translated gems that way even tho there is a direct word for it

it's just one extra letter lol

[lean mango]

Swimming in jewels

[reef river]

The only Neo Champion I am 100% sure will happen is Silver

Alola and unova have too many options to guess correctly

[violet nebula]

Who would he get though?

Weavile?

[reef river]

No clue. Maybe raikou

Unova is either gonna be nate/rosa or cheren/bianca

Unless they go buckwild and do 4 master fairs at once

[tidal turtle]

yeah I get, the thing is he asked me in dm if he should drop his account cause it's very old and he has 0 gems right now, but he has a lots of good units and he was hoping to pull all 3 masterfairs

the chance that he can pull all 3 of them with 0 gems right now are very low, he can at least guarantee one if he is lucky, since he said that he wants Marnie

[buoyant elk]

Guess the only way is reaching pity and focus on one of them, then if you get it early you can consider the other 2

[sly breach]

Well i have to say i am pretty lucky that the 3 mf are not broken enough to justify pulling sad that i would be missing out on 1.2k+ worth of gems tho

Tho ||i am planning to dump gems on raihan banner later looking for redlax||

Wish the banner came sooner

[sturdy flower]

why are you going to be missing gems?

I have done all the missions without using said featured pairs so far.

And the last one will be the easiest

[sly breach]

Cant do any of the EB stages i dont have good enough pairs for them

[bleak falcon]

Have you checked the pins in #1009557516369281075 yet? There’s multiple clears that don’t use limited pairs and in some cases that only use free/low rarity pairs

[lean mango]

ah ok

[sly breach]

Yeh but dont have karen at high move level and no bea

[buoyant elk]

They aren't?

Some consider champion Marnie in the same league as Ash

[hard wave]

In terms of striker MFs ash > zerena/marnie

And I think ash is only better cuz of b-tbolt

Hop is basically a physical sc diantha w zone, and bede idk he seems like a good support ig?

[buoyant elk]

I think 3/5 Bede is one of the best supports

[hard wave]

Im not rlly sure what he does tbh, I think he’s a defensive support who can kind of buff both offenses as well?

[buoyant elk]

Buffs offenses, gives pmun and smun and if 3/5 even Seun

Can give a free move next each sync cycle

[hasty umbra]

Bede is hyper offensive, defense is actually on the slower side since it's on his bmove

[hard wave]

O alr

Isnt he rlly tanky tho?

[hasty umbra]

also, Hop is better SC Diantha, by quite a bit, not just a physical version

[hard wave]

He also has innate vigilance which is nice since u can give him smth else

[buoyant elk]

He's more an offensive buffer for rush, but he's also a good option for defense

The only thing it lacks i think is team heals

[hasty umbra]

you can even meme with a striker build

[hard wave]

Speaking or the MFs any tips for skipping them? || I already used my pity I was saving for red/lucas on marnie and did a random multi for hop, idk if I can go for them now since I have like 2.7k gems but I want to atleast try and save for brendan and may ||

[hard wave]

What striker like nodes does he get?

[lean mango]

Probably will be powercrept by pokefair units

[topaz compass]

I forgot about his 1 time SE next to whole team. Will definitely make 1 grid version using it

[hard wave]

Not rlly pulling cuz of meta tho

[hasty umbra]

nothing really, was thinking just for the 4 bar move and master passive, should be decent with terrain

and the move up stacks

[topaz compass]

The fact Bede maxes the main 5 stats is pretty unusual for a unit already, let alone +1 phy/spec move per sync cycle and a 1 time SE next for whole team

[hasty umbra]

and that seun from syncing

[hard wave]

But brendan, may, lucas, and red were all on my list of pairs to get on reruns however masterfairs take almost 1.5 years to rerun but then again idk when these pokefairs will rerun again, especially in banners with others I want

[hasty umbra]

4, he doesn't max speed

[hard wave]

Ah ok

[topaz compass]

The only thing Bede lacks is stat reduction of enemy, meant to pair with Zapdos

[timber wren]

theyre all extremely good for their roles, near the top of what we can get in the game right now. but we get units that break that ceiling every 3-6 months so go for the ones that you like, not the ones that everyone tells you to pull

[hard wave]

Is his b move infinite use? Ik marnie’s can be used once after every syncing

[topaz compass]

Crit, 2 attacks, 2 defenses is the main 5 to me

[timber wren]

its one MP but it refreshes after every sync

[hasty umbra]

oh, ok, that makes sense

[hard wave]

Ah so like marnie’s then

[hasty umbra]

nvm me then

[topaz compass]

We are supposed to talk down the pairs though in Zen

Bede sucks. Hop sucks. Marnie sucks.

[hasty umbra]

you don't need to undermine a pair to make someone understand why they shouldn't pull them

[timber wren]

i mean we cant really lie and say they arent good units. they are. but we get really good units all the time

[lean mango]

Then option is to choose which one you find in more priority, sometimes you just have to let some units leave, especially if you don't have a pity and grt shafted you're left even more under prepared

[timber wren]

and pulling for every really good unit will leave you broke, constantly

and a roster full of "meta" units that dont end up seeing much use after you get bored of them

[hard wave]

Marnie has aoe moves so not as much damage, bede has no healing unlike the other 3 support MFs, and hop has slow debuffs

[topaz compass]

Bede heals himself but not team, yeah it is unfortunate

[hard wave]

The pokefairs were higher priority but they come mid/end of the month so I just lost patience ig but ill try and save now maybe get lucky w enough gems before it leaves or I can go for brendan

[hard wave]

Better to be able to heal teammates as they r frailer and wont be as good tanking syncs and aoe moves

[topaz compass]

I agree

Thankfully for Zapdos you could use Bede and aura Cynthia if you wanted lmao.

[hard wave]

I dont have zapdos or cynthia but wouldnt that be gauge heavy?

[topaz compass]

How is 2 supports with Zapdos gauge heavy?

[hard wave]

Nvm, I read it as Bea

Does Bede have a way to control his gauges tho? Unless u just plan to spam confusion

[topaz compass]

B move gives team free move next

[hard wave]

Ah alr, so unless u have FMN just use confusion ig?

[topaz compass]

If you want his heal you need to use it too

But maybe better to give up that grid corner for more stuff elsewhere

[tough oriole]

This convo is more for #916852389347196958 if it has nothing to do with skipping bede

[sly breach]

Oh wow ||bede actually looks good but while i am not a fave pull person i don't really like him tho still probably going to the front of best supports in the game||

[topaz compass]

Yay Owen Wilson plays this game

[sly breach]

Who?

[grim plover]

if you dont like X character dont pull for them

the powercreep is strong

[feral vale]

Trust me, a better one will come around.

[rancid vale]

im getting closer

[uncut pewter]

|| not gonna lie doin daily pulls with paid gems really helps a lot to fight the urge to pull with free gems ||

[hasty umbra]

nice ign lol

[crisp oracle]

GLORY GLORY

[crisp oracle]

||While it may be a good way to cope with gacha, it’s not a great usage of your paid gems imo||

[uncut pewter]

||I know, but somehow I've always been pretty lucky with daily scouts and if it helps me cope I'd say its a win win situation lol ||

[topaz compass]

You didn't get my joke huh? You said "oh wow"

[rancid vale]

i cant be bothered to change it

my brain a year and a half ago still agrees

[topaz compass]

Your avatar has eyes closed too

[sly breach]

Oh shit i almost went to sleep forgetting that i aint done with daily missions

[smoky stratus]

Does anyone know how many gems we getting this month my gem bank account took a massive blow

[sturdy flower]

piiiiiiiins

[tardy fiber]

How many gems left?

[sturdy flower]

(27k)

[smoky stratus]

oop

[tardy fiber]

27630 already added twitter rally

[smoky stratus]

it says 37k in pins doh?

am i missing something?

[tough oriole]

That’s from feb 27 to march 30

We’ve already gotten 10k (ish) of this months gems

[smoky stratus]

ah

[tough oriole]

If there’s a particular banner who’s running rn, you can use /banners is #bot-zone to see how many gems are left until they leave (that we know of)

[tardy fiber]

If you cutting it close, this month's banner will be gone after first week of april...to be exact 8th april reset is their last day, so can hopium for first week gems as well

[smoky stratus]

my lucks really trash for anniversary stuff banners so i need to try to spark if i do actually try

but i dont need another fighting one and bede is like, well hes pretty good but not something id go crazy for

[tardy fiber]

Anniraihan banner doesn't last till april

[nocturne spade]

Did tlim gem count go up recently

[timber wren]

yes from the rally gems

that we’ll receive in three resets

[nocturne spade]

Ah

[lunar topaz]

Oh we achieved goal

[rare swan]

We take those!

[upbeat lotus]

[lunar topaz]

I got worried when j saw tlims message earlier today

[hard wave]

Just curious, what is the likelihood of having to pity on a triple and double banner? Iirc on a masterfair its 26% and pokefair/seasonal/spotlight etc. its 7%?

Or is this the wrong place to ask

[timber wren]

dual rate banners are usually 2% total so it’s the same (7% chance to pity for one copy of either unit, 26% to pity for one of the two units specifically)

triple rate ups at 1.5% each shared (4.5% total), so the chance of having to pity for any of the featured (none in particular) would be around 0.2%, but if you’re aiming for one of the three rate ups in particular then your chance of having to pity for one copy of them is around 13%

[hard wave]

Thx

[atomic oar]

This is how many gems I have saved for anni may I should have around 20k gems

Around that time

Actually should I have enough to pity her

[hard wave]

She leaves mid april

[lean mango]

You should always have a pity whenever you're pulling

[feral vale]

I legit do not get how people cannot understand it is 10x easier and less painful to save a pity before pulling, so you’re not agonizing for days about not having this pair yet because you were impatient.

Not to mention if datamine is near the time you get to the pity, you can make your decision when it comes.

[fierce dust]

It’s mainly cuz they are confident that they can pull without pity cuz others are

[feral vale]

That’s another problem. Comparing luck doesn’t do anything

Its called RNG for a reason.

[fierce dust]

Yeah

[feral vale]

And for anyone that does not get the abbreviation, it means “Random Number Generator”.

[fierce dust]

|| Honestly i shouldn’t even be talking cuz I literally scouted for C Marnie without having enough gems for pity 😭😭 ||

[lean mango]

maybe uh spoiler that

[feral vale]

Yeah spoiler actual direct pull mentions.

[fierce dust]

I got scared cuz I also got 3 dead Multis on that banner

[lean mango]

Can you spoiler it?

Please spoiler it

[feral vale]

Dude. We just asked to spoil pull mentions.

[drowsy saddle]

do you know how to spoiler a message

[fierce dust]

Ohhh

[drowsy saddle]

Put double | on both sides to ||spoil|| it

[feral vale]

Discord formatting, am I right?

[fierce dust]

Wait is that the absolute value symbol?

[lean mango]

double |

ye

[feral vale]

||

Copy that

Um, those are not spoiled.

[fierce dust]

There we go

[lean mango]

There you go

[fierce dust]

😭😭

[feral vale]

|| https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/jM8jOcvD-ZJaNUtKcnK_9yM7n5h6JVkmB99_uTs415I/https/i.imgur.com/GFn2z69.png ||

Basically

Sorry Dreamy, stealing your meme

[lament hornet]

in my case it was wallet helping so that you could always be ready without agonizing month during which you can't get anything new, especially when you're given multiple pairs you really want and they're both mfs (this half anni or last anni for instance)

and no, i wouldn't say it's 10x easier to save a pity before pulling. just because saving in a game is easy for you doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else.

[ashen thunder]

Tbh I have no idea how people even tend to roll every banner

It's not like they drop your favs everytime

Even by just rolling favs, it should be like only once every 2-3 months of gambling

[lament hornet]

making people feel like shit because they can't control themselves is unwarranted as hell

[ashen thunder]

Unless it's VA
Even then they only do 5 VAs per year at this rate

And not like every region is a fav

[lament hornet]

it's not always a fav

[ashen thunder]

The funniest thing you see in every gacha help channel

[oak crest]

Probably fomo
That's how gacha games get pple to whale I guess

[lament hornet]

one reason would be the pair's kit for instance

[ashen thunder]

Is when people roll featured

And then say it's not their fav

And still ask Is this good?

[oak crest]

[ashen thunder]

It's not just Pomas, it happens everywhere

[oak crest]

I tend to do some self research on the pair kits and grids before committing that I wanna pull for it if I like it, I don't want to pull smth that I ended up never using after event ends

I had an unit like this and it's Lucas, I never used him at all to date

[lament hornet]

thanks to LG such situations are rare

[oak crest]

For LG I probably run out of support/tankers/potion supplier first before I run out of raw dmg units tbh

[ashen thunder]

Only non fav Ive rolled is leon and ssleon on their initial release coz MF and dmax fomo

Till now used em like only 3 times and 2 of those is for event bonus

So yea rolling non fav is pointless, even if they are excellent units

Coz your favs even if trash tend to be used more often

[lament hornet]

not true for everyone

just because this is something you end up doing doesn't mean others think the same

i really dislike this "if i can do it so should you" attitude as if every single change can be done with snap of your fingers

[ashen thunder]

But
What's the point of rolling favs if it's to not use em

[lament hornet]

*pairs

what if you don't feel too attached to anyone in particular

or your fav is someone with negative chance for an alt, maybe even for their first pair in general

[ashen thunder]

Most people just roll meta if there's not much favs

Also the franchise is big enuff to have enuff characters, there's always going to be someone that you like

And if your fav have less chance to get alts, best is to roll units that would make your favs work

Like zone, debuffers, supports etc

To assist your said fav

[lament hornet]

sure, but liking someone isn't the same. like sure, i like marnie, but i'm not going to pull for this mf because i feel like i'm set on special dark damage.

[ashen thunder]

Doesn't sound like Marnie is a fav

[lament hornet]

well yes, i literally just said that

i like her, not a fav

[ashen thunder]

Yea the point being rolling for favs

Not for type coverage

Especially when offtyping is easier than ontype these days

[lament hornet]

lillie is among favs but i still wouldn't pull for her if her kit offered me nothing

whole reason i don't bother with ribombee alt, not worth the cost of pity

[ashen thunder]

But the cute costume

[lament hornet]

cute costume to look at is also on gamepress site

[hasty umbra]

everyone has different reasons to pull, big deal, it's just that simple

not everyone lives for the favorites thing, not everyone is a meta slave

[lament hornet]

yes

[hasty umbra]

whatever reasons you pull, it doesn't change the fact you should save to ensure you get whatever you want, and sure, just because it's easy for some to do it it's not gonna be for others, but that has nothing to do with saving being a good thing to do or not

it's just using your resources in a smart way

[lament hornet]

i agree

but acting like people who can't are inferior is shit and original message i responded to imo fell in that category

[hasty umbra]

yeah, I can agree on that, you shouldn't look down on someone having a hard time, especially because in some cases addiction is a legit issue they have

others are just reckless and uninformed I guess, and it's a matter of learning they can take advantage of gems in a better way

the former is obviously trickier, it's not easy to overcome FOMO

[ashen thunder]

Well tbh, I have no idea how to approach people falling for fomo other than looking down on em

Don't "Don't fall for hype" doesn't help often

[hasty umbra]

tbf it's not your responsibility

or anyone's here for that matter

this is more a support group, we are not therapy

[lean mango]

I hate when people shame others for not saving, tbh if that happened to me I would've not saved at all , you can't pressure people to save, doing that kinda a leaves a bitter taste. In the end it's the person themself that should decide if they wanna save and be helped

I wanna leave it to the person with "hey, there's this option you can do"

[tardy fiber]

True, some people need to experience something before they started saving like my triggers are the first time i had to resort to pity and almost missing my fave and gets it via pity 3 days before the banner expires. So since then i said to myself thats enough, its such a close call and it gives a demoralizing feeling to me, so i dont want it to happen again next time.

[lament hornet]

my trigger was dropping too much money to pull for stuff

[rare swan]

We can encourage people to not spend without being rude/looking down on them

Like the others said, at the end of the day we can't stop people spending if they truly want to

We can just offer support if they come back here, disappointed about it

[lament hornet]

unless we live nearby

[oak crest]

I think so far I have seen 2 sides of the extreme, the shaming side and also those who complains, other players provide advices, person disregards the advices and continue complaining

[tardy fiber]

I like this NC Galar event, all items in the exchange shop use the same event vouchers. Iirc last year's annimay and the gang have 3 different vouchers

I wonder if i should still keep claiming these upgrade drinks, will be quite a while before i leveling up non faves to 140

[maiden kayak]

i honestly think rolling meta is fine

but u have to be smart about it

[lean mango]

Alot of the times going for favs is easier than meta, but as long as they are able to be sufficient go on right again do what you want to do

[maiden kayak]

like u cant be saying oh the kit is cool looking and pull pal elesa

like wtf

this is what i LITERALLY hear ppl say here

[lean mango]

cool looking

[tardy fiber]

probably due to metronome

[maiden kayak]

ya but they are meta ppl who always complain they dont have enough gems

[tardy fiber]

pretty sure fly aint cool

[maiden kayak]

EVERY SINGLE TIME

damn contracdictory

[oak crest]

Pal elesa

the moment i see her kit

skip

im those who go for meta

didnt even hesistate

insta laughed at the kit and said skip

[tardy fiber]

i would grab a fave with bad kit, but palelesa aint a fave so i skipped

[oak crest]

she would have been fun as a support

[ashen thunder]

Rolling meta is ez
They rarely release actual high end stuff back to back

[oak crest]

as a striker/tech, nah

but then that will clash with spring burgh

[lean mango]

A rolling code can go south in anyway, if you're falling short of gems everytime theres a unit you want then something needs to be done, this can go for faves and meta

[oak crest]

[hasty umbra]

I don't see what's wrong with liking PElesa's kit, some people enjoy that kind of meme unit

[maiden kayak]

as i said meta rolling is fine, just kinda annoyed some ppl complain shit aboyt insufficient gems and roll meme units like pal elesa

[ashen thunder]

Pelesa kit is fine

[maiden kayak]

like pal elesa is opposite of meta

[ashen thunder]

But for meta rollers it's a waste of gems

[maiden kayak]

and they claim to be meta chasers

[ashen thunder]

Tbh I want an answer now

What even is meta

[hasty umbra]

of course, whenever people showed up asking about her, I was not gonna actually recommend her

[ashen thunder]

[maiden kayak]

they can roll whatever they want but they better accept that consequences

[maiden kayak]

meta is a unit that ages like wine

[hasty umbra]

as in, what meta stands for?

[maiden kayak]

in my definition

[hasty umbra]

or what kind of unit qualifies as such?

[ashen thunder]

What unit qualifies

For this game

[maiden kayak]

for strikers , 4 actually fufils that criteria

[hasty umbra]

oh, hmm, big numbers, press one or two buttons and win? idk, something along those lines

[ashen thunder]

Coz y'know
If we look CS, you only need 5 teams
For ebe you just roll rats
LG you roll everything that's on rate up

[tardy fiber]

i wonder what is the ceiling for meta unit, like if say damage....those old pairs were meta before, so wont it end up with keep on pulling as the damage ceiling keep going higher and broken every few months

[maiden kayak]

zerena, lear , ss red ,||cmarnie||

[ashen thunder]

I haven't heard lear in like ages

[maiden kayak]

all those ppl i mentioned have not moved much despite old units

[ashen thunder]

He got the biggest shaft in name of lussa and ssteven

[maiden kayak]

and there are similarities in their kits as beibg straightfoward af

[ashen thunder]

Tho I spoke with some JP players

[maiden kayak]

same for their grid

[ashen thunder]

They say anything with sync Accel is top tier unit

[tardy fiber]

lussamine being left in the dust she's not mentioned

[ashen thunder]

They legit love sscynthia

As a meta unit

[lean mango]

Which

[ashen thunder]

While our standards are different clearly

[maiden kayak]

yea but before them, he actually holds one of the top for quite awhile

he never move much just basing of from spark list

[ashen thunder]

They basically even roll headstart on everything, even dps

[maiden kayak]

she aged like milk

not even half a year already another tier

[lean mango]

Lear still does great, it's just there are newer units that say "pizzazz"

[maiden kayak]

and extend range is cleverly designed to be powercrept

[ashen thunder]

But lucas also moved down

[maiden kayak]

imo lucas is just a zone bot

[hasty umbra]

I mean, there is a reason you can pull for whatever you want in this game, content just doesn't scale fast enough to keep up with the power of new units

[maiden kayak]

i never consider him meta because any dragon zone with better perks can just powercreep him

and dragons like zerena doesnt need him

[hasty umbra]

Lucas going down doesn't mean he is worst, it's just that many new pairs ranked higher

[maiden kayak]

yea

but what im saying is that is my defintion of meta imo

going against the common meta perception

[ashen thunder]

Meta different for different people

[tardy fiber]

but yeap so doesnt that mean, people will keep pulling as the damage ceiling goes higher just like her case in which she drop tier...so people that chases meta will keep on pulling.

[ashen thunder]

I am quite certain lussa does outdamage Lear even in single target

But lear has -3 Accel himself

[maiden kayak]

just dont like the fact its extend range

[lean mango]

Meta for me has always been, can be sufficient in any case

[ashen thunder]

Accel does keep unit relevant

[maiden kayak]

cos its a very cleverly designed trap to be powercrept

same for lugia

u notice lugia isnt exactly top either

[ashen thunder]

Well lugia was obvious

Dmg wise loses to anni Steven in minimal setup

[maiden kayak]

i definitely think “extend range “ plays a part

because when it comes to ST

[ashen thunder]

But people bash anni Steven for 300 atk bad

[maiden kayak]

the dmg is inferior to other aoe moves

which happens most of the time

the dmg doesnt scale

so they can put an excuse to put lousy sp atk

for extend range compensation

[ashen thunder]

Most cases you fight 3 mobs

So ig it makes sense on paper

[maiden kayak]

but boss comes , u need dmg scale

[ashen thunder]

But aoe striker nuke moment

[maiden kayak]

THIS

[tardy fiber]

well extend range just a waste of passive slot if only have 1 enemy, same can be said with type shift...yep change hyper beam/giga impact typing but still waste a slot that can probably be cs2 or something

[ashen thunder]

Well the trend is low atk units age badly

[maiden kayak]

if its anni N it makes sense but striker aoe EX like lugia and ss lusamine are scam slots

[ashen thunder]

I don't see a unit with low atk be praised as a good unit in long run

[maiden kayak]

except fall iris

just cos she has zone and also hyper beam

[lament hornet]

hop kek

[ashen thunder]

Eh....I think firis gonna become a joke as well

Her range is basically Archie

[tardy fiber]

she will get boosted this month, thanks to poison gear...gear have more visible boost to low stats pair like her

[maiden kayak]

hyper beam still saves the day cos the sheer bp amt

[ashen thunder]

Archie also kinda potato
My friends say may is better slot than Archie in frog slot since Archie and may do same dmg and may sets up -1 acc

[maiden kayak]

i mean

look at lance lmao

[ashen thunder]

But lance is 500 atk hyperbeam

[lean mango]

Honestly didn't even know FIris was considered a joke

She always was sufficient

[ashen thunder]

Coz poison is ass typing
Her range is basically Archie

She loses to koga nuke , koga doesn't even have ex

[hasty umbra]

she's not, it's just people expecting too much because Lucas exists

she doesn't lose to Koga

[maiden kayak]

even lucas has meh dps

[hasty umbra]

FIris EX is stronger than him

[tardy fiber]

people make joke of her sync damage before, but not a problem, use support EX sync instead and spam her hyper beam

[maiden kayak]

i dunno why ppl hype on lucas dps

while his dps is whateva

[lean mango]

People keep bringing up her Sp Atk when I don't even notice it

[ashen thunder]

Yea lucas is mostly for nuke , his dps sucks

Zygarde does his dmg on all 3 sides

[maiden kayak]

yea exactly

[tardy fiber]

i use my lucas just as zone bot

[maiden kayak]

see lmao

that proves my point lol

[lean mango]

Using Lucas to power up Lisia lfg

[tardy fiber]

with zone mp refresh, roar mind games and roar propulsion

assist build

oh draconic accel for speed

[maiden kayak]

the only few zone units i know that age really well as hybrid is pal marnie

[lament hornet]

imo being zone bot isn't bad

[ashen thunder]

Think the peak meta powercreep was like

SSred -> weather duo -> hoops -> zygarde -> doa -> rat -> frog -> bird

Anything in between is just second rate

Atleast for DDs

[maiden kayak]

isnt bad but another zone bot with better perks can just powercreep in easily

[tardy fiber]

actually i aim to make all of my zone units as zone bots if i have other same type damage dealer, heck i even use sslyra as zone bot+debuffer

[ashen thunder]

I just use zone for bigppnuke

For dps I always go double dps

[tardy fiber]

Even ||CHop is a zone bot now, sync with scguzma for physical fighting weak coverage with his SE buff after sync gimmick and sync with scdiantha for special fighting weak damage||

That said DeNa please make one of my upcoming fave as electric terrain bot

Miraidon/Tapu Koko

If hard to do that at least make it a rebuff unit

[lament hornet]

isn't ss hilbert an electric rebuff

[hasty umbra]

yes

[tardy fiber]

Yep but he mainly bug

I want pure elec fave

[lament hornet]

fair

raikou pair

[ashen thunder]

Why would you want rebuff ontype

SShilbert is most overkill unit out there just coz of that

[tardy fiber]

To carry lusamine

[lament hornet]

to make the weakness even stronger

[ashen thunder]

I am waiting for tapu koko to improve my zekrom offtype team

[tardy fiber]

Bug coverage already good enough with both pheromosa and genesect, hope they release more electric/fairy/poison...i guess i could discount normal due to no content weak to normal

Also if normal zone or rebuff exist, my gladion cannot press tm

[hasty umbra]

well, the only normal that fits your criteria is Arceus

oh, and I guess Regigigas

[tardy fiber]

And regigigas

Hoping for palmer Regigigas

[lean mango]

Palmer & Regigigas

[tardy fiber]

Just give his heatran to his son barry for sygna suit

[lean mango]

Barry alt

[tardy fiber]

Barry and nate alt

[ashen thunder]

Regigias starts with -6 speed on a 150 base speed coz slow start

Or even worse, slow start makes initial sync CD as 12 instead of 9

[tardy fiber]

And dena give him downside up 5/5 grid to make +6 speed and bait people to pull more copies

[drowsy saddle]

It overflows and you get sync move turn 1

[compact pasture]

[broken mulch]

You know, it’s weird that we haven’t had an enemy that slows down our sync countdown

[vale ivy]

Then another MF that counters that

[oak crest]

Sync cool down increment

[cunning swan]

I think it's just because of the game mechanic stating that using moves = decreasing sync countdown. so one way to "slow down" our sync countdown is if the opponent denies us from moving completely. Serena EBE has go viral hypnosis to do that

[lament hornet]

passive named Team Wide Awake:

[oak crest]

who knows, they might implement opponent teams with passive that increase our sync cd counter in the future...

[lament hornet]

when this pokemon takes damage, next move of the attacking pair does not advance sync move countdown

[oak crest]

altho if they really want to make our lifes difficult they can just simply use the passive that reduces non-SE damage...

[cunning swan]

piercing blows has gotten more popular lately

[tardy fiber]

Paldawn already has it

[oak crest]

for EBE, using pairs with those abilities might be tricky if they aint boosted

[lament hornet]

i know

[ashen thunder]

Useless coz can't sleep in electric terrain
Rat Infestation as usual if that's the only gimmick

[topaz compass]

Randoms on the internet are the perfect people to make you feel like shit for not controlling yourself

[timber wren]

we dont do that in here tho

[chrome nest]

Even if I can’t fully beat all the ebs stage at least I tried

[chrome nest]

I’m sorry if this comes out as rude but isn’t that just twitter

[smoky stratus]

How come never use dragon zone?

[oak crest]

never seen the need to...

Zerena can easily dismantle any dragon-weak stage... cyrus as well

[smoky stratus]

Just put him to the side

It makes it faster

Doesn’t even cost bar

[tough oriole]

I personally get more satisfaction when I don’t use top tier units to clear content, but that’s probably just me

[rare swan]

clearing content with faves is the best

i only use kalos units for CSMM now 😌 it's a fun challenge

[smoky stratus]

I just use whatever I like/ want to

Like some weeks it’s a ss red week some weeks it’s leon and maybe I’ll use N one day

[tardy fiber]

Legendaries, Mythicals, UBs csmm run...i even use them for Gauntlet streaks run

[topaz compass]

Are you another post-sync CS2k clearer like me?

More rewarding to do longer battles imo

[lament hornet]

i was happy to see colress devastate content once, after that... not so much lol

[sly breach]

Someone here was trying to get Colress any luck yet?

[lament hornet]

i have him so not trying to get

[oak crest]

got him when I was pulling for other units, can't really said i was trying to get him back then as well

[tardy fiber]

Still missing Colress, Melony, Shauna

[oak crest]

Lacking Aaron, Gordie, Shauna for mine

[reef river]

Just gordie and hugh

[oak crest]

most ironic about aaron is that my other gen sinnoh pool units are all 5/5

[violet nebula]

He will come, patience

[upbeat lotus]

Bertha, Gordie and Shauna for me

Got really unlucky on Sinnoh tickets

[dusty oyster]

Exactly!
Catching up, but speaking of themed gauntlet runs, with Bulu as one of the three for the next gauntlet I think I'm gonna try and get a 10 clear using only birbs

[robust shore]

I think I'm just missing Shauna from the general pool at this point
[which ofc I am because she's the one out of all of them that i want most but--]

[topaz compass]

I think I only completely lack Melony and Colress

[ashen thunder]

I am missing Shauna, Hugh, Melony, Looker, Gordie

Hope there's a worthy banner to gamble next month, then I can hope for spooks

[topaz compass]

Courtney dupes where are you?

That 3/5 nuke looks solid

[maiden kayak]

||hows your chop pulls?||

[ashen thunder]

I wasn't playing for like 3 months so my roster can never be salvaged

Last year shouldn't have been on hiatus

[maiden kayak]

rip 3 months worth of gems

[ashen thunder]

I also missed anime select

Came back only to see ssmay leaving in 1 day so I didn't want to spend 20k I had on hand

[dusty oyster]

||Had to go to pity, same as Carnie||

[maiden kayak]

||oh my thats painful||how many gems left

[dusty oyster]

21k unpaid

[maiden kayak]

ohhhh

dang

from almost ||100k to 21k|| this is brutal af

im assuming u never go for gen pool birds right

[dusty oyster]

Yep yep, very glad I chose to skip PalElesa at this point

[maiden kayak]

since u are in quite a pinch

Palelesa might need to seasonal select at this point

[dusty oyster]

Probably not unless it's Talonflame I can pick up for 7.5k paid, because that's literally my #1 fave mon

[maiden kayak]

yea i think best not to touch non paid

until u are recovered

[maiden kayak]

or u can actually wait for gen pool select

which is much more cheaper

[vestal leaf]

^

[dusty oyster]

That too

[vestal leaf]

And they've been

Extremely common

Lately

[maiden kayak]

7.5k paid gems isnt exactly cheap

[vestal leaf]

The 7.5k paids meta is now for variety

[maiden kayak]

and with influx of its not worth the rewards

[maiden kayak]

really gross

i dont think ball guy banner will do well imo

[vestal leaf]

We'll see

I still think he's a step up compared to first variety

That one was just one of the biggest moneygrabs ever

[timber wren]

hes got four different events its really strange

[reef river]

Ball guy was probably the most requested new trainer besides anabel

(Because it was me, i requested him)

[cunning swan]

meanwhile Victor, Gordie, and Melony all got shoehorned in one solo event

[sly breach]

What are the chances that dena employees are lurking around here

Cause honestly i tought there was no way ball guy gets a sync

[timber wren]

impossible to know, and hard to divine since they probably have stuff roadmapped 6+ months away

ill still holler about Green and Klara for anyone listening tho

[cunning swan]

hey uh dena spy hear me out

Silver and Sneasel

[smoky stratus]

Green is just leaf

[lean mango]

He DeNa, put Eusine in the game

[smoky stratus]

Who’s klara though

[timber wren]

[lean mango]

[dusty oyster]

From Isle of Armor

[lean mango]

I wait for Klara soon

She'll be perfect for my Poison collection