#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)
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PLEASE 
I'll take it if that means we get a new CS region
Johto is so easy I've been making up ridiculous challenge clears for my own entertainment 
Why don't you do that every week?
it just so happens that I'm on university break and have all the time in my hands
testing gauntlet teams stresses me out
Been doing somethin like a Champion Gauntlet
I just preset 10 teams and bail for Gauntlet...oh i havent done the other 2 uxie teams
Wanted to use more pairs that, which I've been doin already never thought I was going to use Kali 
maybe I'll do this someday
Me using two potion supports in one battle that might bite me in the back 
iirc, BP isn’t counted because everyone starts and ends at different points on it
they do tally how many points we get on BP each month though, if that’s what you mean
I thought they only didn't count coins got from lodge as not many people have those guests especially the limited ones
Also all rewards in bp are the same except for 500 points 30
and 10000 the rainbow tix, so i thought Tlim included the coins from it
idk how they’d tally the coin count unless they were just tallying off of their own point total from the inception of BP
but it’s such a long form reward system that it makes the count inaccurate for anyone who started after BP’s introduction, unless i’m missing something
Because in some months iirc, i got less move coin than what's stated... probably because i kinda have 2k bp difference than those who never misses, and if added my gap, i lack 1 of those coins for that month...but not a big problem as you will get that coin next month anyway
Also to see if they calculate bp or not:
Johto cs give strike coins (till 29th) = 4 strike
Gauntlet = 2 strike
NYLisia event = 1 strike
Poma day = 1 strike
Total=8 strike
Tally says 12 strike coins this month
I need to finish dawn, to get my reward 
Dawn is almost done
After her, it will be only Lillie left
Who by the way, just arrived from a ticket pull
Meaning I have all the lodge pairs in the game (so far)
I'm still missing most limited lodge pairs 
I don't have Cynthia guest
Might grab her if she appears in a select and all other faves in it already 3/5
Lodge banner doesn't have good value for me to attempt
I finished dawn and she was my last one, dont have N or Cynthia
Thanks to lodge pairs existence, i got a place to use my 4* candies...well bp pairs also exists but need to wait for anniversary for them to add more
Strikers im just 5/5ing but still need a few tech/support candies
I think I have marnie elesa and dawn left + rachel, bp janine ill do w tickets and maybe zinnia/erika if I still havent gotten enough tech candies
So close 

So close ||to spend it as well
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We have almost the same gem count
||but I'm gonna spend some of it on 12th
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Mine don't
I'm struggling with moltres
Since I wanna do all 3 missions with a single run (9 pairs)
head to #1009562367803261078 for help
I managed it
Used lodge Raihan, kukui and Emmet for round 1
BP clemont, Sycamore and Siebold for round 2
SS Kris, Lucian and Karen for round 3
Yes only not count bonanza and rally as some gems are still locked in it 
I just kill moltres twice because trying to clear all missions in one run is quite hard
It's one of the few challenges in the game
That feel genuine
Rather than shoehorning master fairs
Cresselia is more scary 
Ok done preset 10 teams for gauntlet later...but man, i hope they release more physical and def spdef buffer support faves in the future
27140 gems right now...
Whoooo
I forgot just how much gems I've ever had without pulling but this is probably close to it
Close to 70k...
When do the NY units leave again?
Hmmmm, will I able to acquire 50k gems before NY Lisia leaves? 
Why exactly do you want 50k? 
Because why not?
that's very specific

If only i could just win the 60k gems huh 
Mentally prepared to totally skip diantha. Now if only i could develop the same discipline in fire emblem heroes with my orbs in that game
I have olivia 3/5 but the moltress stage is beign a pain in the ass
So am thinking if my rock is good enough
olivia is good but you also ideally want sand
I dont have candy for acerola so that didn't work
Bertha might also help there for sandstorm, as the tech Kabutops
Bertha + ingo and you’ll never run out of sand
acerola works at 1/5 just for sand
she also has like 40% flinch proc iirc
with on a roll
60%
oh its on a roll 2?
Acerola doesn't even get much from 2/5+, the best thing is Focus Group 4 - and you're not using her as a crit buffer
I already tried with her at 1/5 did not work thats what i mean
I get it but she is not worth the candy imo. I would try something else
And you immediately resorted to candying instead of asking for help
You could've used a different strategy
No i did not candy i just wondering if maybe to pull Diantha to buff my rock team
This is the resource thread so you’ll get people advocating for using what you have
Well, you most certainly don't need to.
2/5 Olivia does wonders to rock-weak stages, so it's all up to the team you will construct. #1009553004350931054 can help with the specific stages.
Why would you resort to pulling as the next option
it seems DeNa dropped our gem goddess. enjoy.
just kill diancie for them
🔪
k

Ftr, I've cleared a stage like that iirc with 1/5 Olivia in the past, as well as 10k CSMM (though that requires 2 EX Supports alongside her if 1/5), so the issue is probably more on how you handle Moltres' weather if anything
Acerola largely does her job at 1/5, and you can do it with her, but I understand if she's maybe a bit much for trouble if not used to using her. I'd typically ask about other weather setter options but if you've got 3/5 Olivia, it should definitely be enough if you go at it the right way
Acerola is a flinch machine, and Olivia's damage is pretty respectable
But yeah, don't wanna ramble off too much into what should prob be for #1009553004350931054, just wanting to at least let you know that what you have should be enough. This goes for almost every stage one can think of: it's more about learning to use what you have than needing to pull for something else that you perceivably lack
Well said! 
you can do Moltres with a good tank, Cyrus + Winona quite easily, after a smoll initial practice
hit rank 100 today, but will wait for another big milestone to share gem count
it's above 150k though!
I might be able to get 33600 gems before the NY reruns banner leaves, but
no guarantees
and even if I do manage to do that
I am still unable to decide between NY Sabrina and Anni Lillie...
rarity wise, i'd say Anni Lillie, because they probably won't rerun her for the next year now again
but go with your heart man
NY Sabrina is probably easier to use because support
||DeNa please introduce the Empress/Villainess Sabrina from BW2, and her alt outfit from games||
HGSS Sabrina 
Well, if I end up going with Anni Lillie instead of NY Sabrina, then I woulf have to wait for the next datamine first
waiting for datamine is a privilege and not a hindrance though
For me, it kinda is a hindrance, though
After all, until the datamine happens, I don't know who the next Palentine's sync pairs are gonna be
yes, but imagine you couldn't wait for it
would your situation be better, or would you be upset you can't get that cute new Lillie Olivia
If Lillie, may or Serena get another alt I’m gonna riot 
So before NY Lisia's banner ends, I'll have 49k gems, goddamnit
I should be at 47.5k by datamine 
I know it’s going down no matter what next month tho 
Kalos VA part 2 and 3.5 anni units
Not even that fuck kalos

It’s cause of pal rerun
||I want pal bea||
And I doubt half anni will have a fav
No Kalos slander 
They will so be ready to riot I guess
Hey, we need atleast 1 more lillie or may alt
And some erika alts too
No we don’t 
They haven't brought their 6th pokemon yet
They want to make their complete team of 6 pokemons
Let them do it
Blue and N needs 1 more mon too
Blue has brought his pidgeot, blastoise, aerodactyl, arcanine and exeggcutor
1 more, then he will be ready to challenge Red for another 1v1
Blue is probably not gonna happen cause of the VA… 
Then atleast a lillie
She too, needs 1 pokemon to complete her roster
Remember those good days when alt = lillie or erika
Alts must not have been common
im still waiting for lodge Erika

swimming in those coins, richu
I have 28 million coins and I haven’t exchanged my pearls in a while
I should just buy a bunch of those rainbow potions but never will know when we get another CElesa event
i mean that event also shat pearls out the ass so its not like it would matter
Can’t tell if this my 2nd pity or not.
Mym you're at second pity, nice!
Ah alright, excellent.
2nd pity too 
3k more retweet gems nice

34k gems this month if the gems come this month
reward distribution starts 17feb
Yo that's nearly a pity 
oh
Oh Feb?
says it in the details link in the tweet
dang
They want us to use those gems for kalos VA pairs and not ny pairs 
it’s strange since the rally period is only thru 16jan but the rewards go out a month later
Done with this month so don't have a problem with that 
i don’t remember how long it usually is
I still not done with this month 
Well at least im done with preset gauntlet teams 
10 streaks in my hand
I wonder if part 2 of the Kalos VA will be the half anni units, I'm guessing obviously not
Probably not, first half anni pair annimay last year released on 28th feb iirc so she's in feb late datamine
Not late jan
But the free x100 pulls will be on feb
Run up to half anniv
can't have us pull on anything during first half of february
imagine the nerves
Please DeNa, don't release many of my faves for half anniv...at least make one of them normal pokemon like last year's flygon 
SAME
I need to hold my hand from doing stupid decision of pulling more than 1/5 after getting the unit
These few upcoming months will be dangerous
Kalos part 2, palentine (maybe got fave), half anniv (maybe got fave), alola VA 
I can just candy them later
Furthermore VA units doesn't even rerun when their VA reruns 

Most pokefairs I want r VA pairs I think 
SS Cyrus, Lucas, SS Dawn, SS Morty, SS Brendan, Red
I understand if they didn't want to rerun ssrcynthia and johtrio MF due to MF...but whats holding them to rerun other pokefairs 
I wish we got more reruns in general, besides ss leaf/bede for expansion gauntlet and lodge I dont think we have had many reruns
Last ones I remember were the MC one and ingo/emmet
They also already rerun pokewar SC
I mean pokefairs, idk if they’ll be rerunning SCs at certain times like seasonals
They forward pokewar rerun from November to anniv month
Its supposed to be November if its yearly rerun
I think that’d still be around fall tho? Maybe they’ll rerun in a specific season rather than a specific month
Nope its month after fall units month
Oh right
Kinda mad with DeNa that time, release 4 faves on a dry gems month

Luckily i skipped fall
Wish I couldve gone for diantha but ash took until pity
Resist the temptations of fallcaitlin meta 
Ill most likely just skip seasonals/scs bcz of the bad rates
atleast pokefair favs get better rates on reruns usually
Still hoping that DeNa will give free move coins while pulling pokefair...we got free coins for pulling spotlights, seasonal, sc, master fairs...so why the difference? 
Ye never understood why they havent
Maybe cuz they have the most balanced rates? Like SCs seasonals and spotlights have horrible 5* rates and masterfairs have horrible featured rates and they r in between?
Since I think they r supposed to be a consolation prize or smth
But thats if people want 5*, i want the featured unit and not others so 2% featured rate is the same for pokefair/ seasonal / spotlight...only master fair get 1% ...so give me move coin DeNa 
watch, we're gonna get ssr cynthia rerun faster than ss cyrus and ss dawn nonpaid rerun 
True 
Luckily i already didn't have to chase any rerun
The unit that i had to chase before was N...but already got him with last year NY select
Gloria and Lysandre rerun during run up to anniv on 2021
With all of those, i already got all faves that i missed when i joined pokemas

Ig but maybe they consider the higher 5* rate worth it? 
Besides anni skyla/may ss diantha and ingo + ssa cynthia, ss serena lusamine and ethan
Hoping alot of them r in the same combined banner so I can maybe save some gems
I didn't understand your question..
Reached it before Kalos VA weee 

Now gonna hopium for 60k lottery prize 
100,000.... Great job
Thank you 
Thank you DeNa for releasing December skip month, and only 1 fave for anniv 
Ok for 150 progress, i'm done with seasonal faves...gonna complete 150 base faves next like lear/lysandre/lucas/N/gloria
Because feels bad that all legendary adventures are base faves and they already 150 while other base pokefair faves still neglected 
Also already done lusamine, oak and gladion 150 before this
Time to 150 all base faves 
I have been actually saving gems for the first time in a few months 
After anni I struggled to hold over 3k gems at any point for some reason
But I’m finally back to it
Nice 
I currently have 18k gems with 2k sitting uncollected
Going to work hard to skip diantha
I ||gonna grab her, it's about time for a fave to release... I've been skipping frogs, ny pairs and others
||
- paid gems
One final gem update before next reset
almost time for my hard work to pay off
||not enough to tier shauna
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||there will be
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wow almost 300k
so ||gems for 3/5?||
i'm planning to ||spend a pity and see where that gets me||
but ||she'll be going to 3/5 minimum since I've got plenty of candies for her
||
Me patiently waiting for next month datamine
nice
Same
I've already decided January is a zen month for me
Now I'm just waiting for february datamine before deciding ||whether I want Bede or not||
If you're not 110% sure, always wait for datamine 💯
what if i'm 110% sure on several units without having pity 
sus
Time to save for reruns
If they are faves, set a pity aside just for them, when they come back
Well hopefully the one that you skipped is not VA units...only Lucas, redlax, cblue that reruns ...others need to select and use paid gems 
Eh, they’ll probably give regular reruns one day, some of the units will become dated and overshadowed by newer units and as they take away old poke fairs from re runs through the permanent lodge banner, space for re runs will open up
What the hell is up with VA pokefairs and rerunning in paid banners 
If I have to hazard a guess, they are trying to see how to make old limited units available without taking up re-runs space. With seasonals, they’ve settled with the big banners + tiered scouts, while old PFs will probably be gradually added to the Lodge banner + the occasional 3 way banner for gauntlet (which I hope will be updated, stop pushing SS Blue and SS Cynthia, pls).
Since they’re still figuring stuff out and sorting their schedule, new PFs are relegated to paid banners for the newer ones. Gradually they’ll come to regular reruns, since re run space will open up and they’ll be power crept and thus become less valuable as select targets
Wasn’t Lucas in a 3 way banner a while back? I may be misremembering
Oh and ofc CBlue and CRed
Only those 3, I think
from the past year the only new PFs that have had free reruns are lucas and now bede
oof
it’s really strange, you’d think the lodge banner would’ve meant we’d see more reruns not less
Dena gatekeep era
just put older pokefairs permanently into MF pool
alongside spotlights

rotate them based on MF type or something
or even better, region
because MFs are all about region boost
Rip Unova and all their pokefairs
at least Alola will be fine
@ Dreamy
Why fear it if you can prepare instead?
Hm, the list doesn't seem too big, and the rest of the month is free of faves, so you should be fine saving there.
Can't predict what the datamine brings, so it's just a waiting game now.
i do want ss diantha, but she's here for a while
She's not on the list, is she?
no, but it doesn't matter lmao
i said it before and it still holds true - i just don't really think in terms of favs most of the time, but in terms of what i want
honestly if i hold myself until datamine that'll already be a progress
And what decides what you want?
||greed||
often times the kit takes priority for me
So you have no set preferences on that matter? Sounds like getting tempted by new pairs to me
And your rules do include a rule of waiting for a new month datamine, so SSDiantha can wait not just for one, but for two datamines
i'd say her kit is like SST Red but inferior in every way
yes, that's the new ruleset
if i actually adhere to it that's progress imo
since it's not what happened
I mean, she has support at least
You can always come here to talk if you feel like you're close to breaking self-set rules.
||You say that like it’s a bad thing||


I really want to pull for anni N and anni lillie. Ughhh
N for reshiram. Lillie for her outfit.
You’d probably want a bunch for the outfit with that logic
Annilillie, fallcaitlin, schilda have dame color scheme iirc
When it comes to outfits I consider the character first so, to me if Lillie isn't really a fav then I wouldn't consider it 
Yea, this game has really good outfits in general, it’s not practical to consider every good outfit as a fav
How do yall save when there’s so many good pairs each month? (Both meta and style wise)
im trying to save until datamine before pulling for ss diantha (dont have pity rn but by the time she leaves I can reach it)
Priorities
meditate under the waterfall
jokes aside , write a list and be laser focus
you ask and answer your own question in the first sentence. there are 4-6 new units each and every month and they’re almost always good in some ways, yet we get less than a pity each month. you recognize that you cannot obtain every shiny new unit, and with the content in the game as-is there isn’t a reason to want them all anyways
so you prioritize what you find important to identify the handful of units that you want to grab
Pull faves and skip non faves, reject meta...well faves that are meta are acceptable 
It's important to figure out what makes a unit worth pulling for you
it's easiest to save if the thing that's most important to you is specific characters or mons but it is still possible to save with meta goals, so long as said goals are specific
I have quite a long list….. the only one on it that I dont care too much about is prob ingo since I just need weather supports
And also there’s usually atleast one pair I like per month, and none of the newer pairs seem to be rerunning
it might not be for a while, but every pair will rerun eventually (except maybe anime charas)
I dont think there’s any pairs I would want to see in future, I have to see the unit before I decide whether I like it or not
well, what is it about a pair that makes you like them once you see them???
Getting Ingo because he is a meta weather support 
Getting Ingo because Ingo is one your favourite character 
Well basically later there will be more pairs that have overlap kits that are similar with old meta units, so if it isn't fave...just skip 
Id get ingo if he was in a banner with other favs
But if not maybe ill skip cuz if I do end up getting diantha who I like more rock zone would be enough
Meta who?

I do think it's still possible to save for meta reasons, but you'd have to specify what exactly you want them to do. "I just want any good pair" won't help you save, but something like "I want a poison striker with an AOE move" or "I want a rain-setting support that can also heal allies" or whatever (just made those up off the top of my head). The main thing with saving is to be specific enough that you have a clear goal, so you can look at future pairs and right away know if they fit said goals or not.
Usually the outfit or pkmn
Well if you can already clear rock weak in csmm just fine before this, its fine not getting ssdiantha.
Tho I like alot of mons so 
Outfits and Pokemon are a secondary factor for me unless it's a Poison unit
for pokemon, make a list of mons you want, maybe create a tier list so you can have different tiers of priority. Like a "must pull no matter what" "only pull if they're fair" "only pull if I have more than x gems" "only pull if I also like the trainer they're paired with"
ye that
Like lodge marnie? 
Unfortunately 
outfits are a bit harder tho. tho I know aqua has written out some criteria of what makes an outfit worth pulling for
Still planning on when is the perfect opportunity
I would at least try to narrow down what kind of outfits you like and use that as a basis for trying to form outfit criteria
The most balanced tier 
What does it mean
I know for me when it comes to outfits, boyish formalwear (think SS Wally), sweets themed clothes, obnoxiously bright and colourful clothes, and clothes that are a reference to my other interests are generally must pulls for me
so if you can narrow down outfits like that, it can help a bit
Look like a shade to me tbh, looking at people in that tier 
Wdym?
My list so far and reasons besides nice outfit/nice mon:
LuSSa and Zerena; good strikers
SS Ethan; could use a better flying striker
SSA Cynthia; fighting is one of my worst types
Lucas, SS Cyrus, SS Diantha, Anni May/Skyla; zone (ik there’s bianca for psychic terrain but may isnt for meta reasons)
Cynthia/N; lodge (least priority)
Redlax, SS Brendan, SS Dawn; good supports
SS Morty, Ingo; weather supports
I rlly just have to see it to decide whether I like it or not tbh 
No specific genre rlly
There are some units that fit on the line of fav that I'd only consider if their alt outfit is something I really like
Drip drake? That's gonna be hard 
okay so idk much about SSAC since I didn't pull for her but she's a support, isn't she???? is she really gonna help your fighting coverage much if she's not really meant to be dealing big damage?????
Hoenn Elite 4 privilege 
Drake Nate Ethan have bad drip to me
She’ll help bea alot esp since she’s 3/5 and I cant get sc guzma/diantha
So I don't understand what the tier is trying to say
EXCUSE ME, what did you say about Drake

The tier is for alts that I would consider getting if I love their outfits
Oh ic
Hmm ill have to think about it
Sidney drip, i can see it happening as fall seasonal 
And lemme say that Drake has one of my favorite designs in this franchise
It's perfection
Oh also in general she’s a good support
Fall wins again 
chasing this many old units leaves you precious little budget for any new units unless you’re doing select scouts
Ethan has good drip 
I mean by alt outfit criteria 
Summer as well, especially because Shiftry is a tengu...and summer sidney with kimono with it will be grand 
Well ig I could narrow it down to the ones I want most out of all of them
The Dark type E4 wearing kimonos 
SS Brendan, SS Morty, SS Ethan/Zerena/Cynthia (aura)
that would be next year New year
I do still want the others but not as much
But man, hard to imagine Drake...glacia, sidney and phoebe easy to give drip
Need the Hoenn E4 to have their spotlights
Still waiting for that Glacia alt 😔
i would understand falkner since hes ikemen
so what would you be looking for in a new unit? will you save enough to guarantee that over spending on one of your lower priority rerun units? how do you resist pulling for them when you have less than a pity saved?
but sidney its like 99% impossible alt
Just give sidney a tengu mask, just like summer N

Give him shiftry
Another Sharpedo alt 
Sharpedo will be good for Matt
Sharpedo for all 

I like tentacruel, but not sure if it will ever be pair with someone...if none, i just gonna hope for tentacruel eggmon shiny 
Tentacruel unit but it's a Water unit 
I’m well prepared to suffered some envious thought when friends ping me if they win 60k gems
Water unit but has poison moves 
Still not a Poison unit 😔
ss giovanni moment
uses a pokemon thats poison ground
has poison move
is ground sync

Hey guys long time vet and I’m new to the savers mentality. I have enough to pity SS Diantha and want to get her to 3/5. I also have 2 tech candies to get her to 3/5. However, I always hear the saying that if ur not going to pity that’s gems wasted. If I get her early is it best to go to pity regardless and save my candies? I have other techs on my wishlist but that’s the johto trio and they won’t be rerunning for a while. What approach do you guys think is best long term?
Need more overpowered Poisons tbh 
How not going to pity is gem wasted? I will be happy if i got the unit before pity...and use my remaining gems for next future fave
Because in general that’s a guaranteed copy and ur saving yourself a candy
It is only wasted if you got the unit at 360/400 and didn't reach pity ro get 2/5
If you get her early and not in like the vicinity of like lets say, 366 scout points then I'd say it's not worth going to pity, need to save as many gems as you can
Yep if 366/400 better go pity to save a candy
Okay I see so gems > candies
As long as you get the unit is what matters to me
Don't really care for copies ||unless it's a very big fave that I want to have 5/5||
Because you get average 10 coins of each type a month, so you will form 3 candies every 2 months...its good rate
Had no idea that was the rate. That’s dope
That’s what I always thought but I wanted to hear from others so ty
Gym Marnie and Arezu
That's perfect
i dunno why u think that way tbh
bea is one of those units who can nuke and dps without zone very well
in csmm context
thats even with
sinnoh and hoenn
csmm
I mean she isnt 3/5*, she can take one hit and thats its
like i just need dump atk buffer , maylene and her
Cynthia has healing and maxes both defenses iirc
err so?
And just generally a good support
this is coming from me who tried both
bea still gets the same outcome
zone is just too overkill
she cant?
without inertia yea
Not unless you have good sync accel, but usually you don’t
i mean isnt her dps with meteor strike pretty alright
Nah like Cynthia’s zone doesn’t last until the end of the sync cycle
I mean I do like the pair itself too, but gon asked how she’d help w fighting as a support
u can dish out an additional metoer assault befor her nuke anyways
skill issue just spam tms and u get zone on bea sync
That just feels like lost damage. Also inconsistent
dont do bs stuff like attacking moves and u are fine
She prob wont be rerunning for a while anyway so I have time to think about if I do want her or not
This is very true
Hello, I'd like to ask really quickly.
So I dunno who I would want to pull for this time, Anni Lillie or SS Diantha. Meta-wise, who's better?
Here are a few things I want to note.
I have SSR Cynthia for Ghost.
Classic Blue and Emmet for Rock.
Ingo for Sand Support.
Nice 300 gems gift
||600 gems gift
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Damn, I only got 300 gems from the New Year's raffle Event thingy
She's the weaker SST red.... Her outfit looks kinda.... bad....
yeah i kinda dont like diantha all that much
There ya go... Happy saving!
Dang, I was planning on getting the 60,000 gems to pull on Diantha. 300 gem gang.
welcome 2 the club
||600 gems gang?
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I punted like 15k gems over the last like week and a half after saying i'd save and talking to people here and agreeing and now i have nothing i need to stop
spent 9k on Champion Calem after getting Serena from pity and bringing my Calem to over half pity in hopes which was a waste
and then just dropped 6k on Diantha because I like mega diancie and have and use Hilda and thought it'd be fun to have both together
im so bad at saving 😭
then start by dont talking about it here
fair my bad i should've come here before i wasted gems
I know it can feel easier said than done, but you’ve gotta remind yourself of that pain you feel getting shafted whenever you feel the urge to impulse pull
Whew, I got the units I wanted with over 25k gems to spare
You’re never guaranteeing yourself anything which is one of the biggest things, you’re throwing gems into the void and praying the void decides to spit something nice back when it never has to, and often won’t
That makes sense
the impulse rarely ever pays off
and more often than not just hurts
i like that mentality thank you
Try to look at it this way: you’re going to maximise the value of your gems. You’re going to make every amount count
To do that, you’re going to make sure you have the pity and so when that happens, even in worst-case, you’ll never really experience that again
You’ll only be winning
Ofc, to do that, you’ve gotta skip and determine what it is that you truly want
Don’t mean to put a lot on you at once, but if you’re gonna combat impulse spending, you’re going to have to break down what it is that pushes you to impulse spend
I think it's just the feeling that like "oh i haven't gotten anything in a while maybe this time i'll get lucky, that would be so cool to get lucky this time to compensate for all the other times"
so like sunk cost fallacy + feeling like getting lucky would be exciting
but either way it's not worth the usual trend of not getting anything out of it
I def figured there was that sunk cost fallacy aspect to it no doubt yeah
Well the best thing to do is do daily missions and throw the phone away
At least until 36k gems
That makes sense
Getting lucky being exciting, well, how long does that feeling of luckiness & excitement last relative to feelings of disappointment being shafted, then all the time building those gems back up again
I think I should also try to avoid checking my gem count so frequently since it's harder to want to pull if i don't realize i'm at 6k or 9k or 12k or whatever
Nah I appreciate it that seems like a pretty reasonable way to think about it!
Alright back sorry
Yeah I hear ya, that’s one method if you feel it works for you
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prehaps this might help
For some, setting goals works, but you can still set goals without paying too much attention to your gems rising consistently
Like hey I’m at 10k now, great! Now I stop looking at it for a while, until I see hey, I’m at 18k! Halfway there 
gem milestone are always very helpful
But yeah, if there’s something you reckon you’d like to have more than most pairs, maybe you can give some extra consideration to those pairs over everything else
So you know you can skip the rest to guarantee the pairs you really want, whether in the game yet or not
yay half a mil 
and then theres chest
GG Aqua
you just reach the absolute zen level of Chest
i can only name 2
just finished reading this that was really helpful thank you!
meanwhile, ||I took huge gem damage last month and it was painful||
makes sense i would hate to waste gems on a pair i can't guarantee and/or don't REALLY want and then miss out on a new N alt or one of my fave mons
DANNGGGG CONGRATS
that's like a retirement fund lmao
you very welcome, it helps if you can read and reread a bit and save it in a file
i can crush pasio if i want 
giovanni who
and if you need any kind of personal coaching/advice
i only know 500K highroller aqua
you can come dm
chest is at 900k
i'll keep it in mind, ty :)
i help people all the time
appreciate you being so supportive
I think I know/have heard of 3? 3rd one I don’t know but I remember seeing a screenshot
interesting
i plan to be the 5th then
There was that JP player I saw with around the amount of gems that Chest had tho I wonder if it's legit
first go back to 400k gems and then to 500k
though i think others will beat me to it
Exactly!! Imagine the feeling of being able to guarantee every new N pair or fav mon that drops, and now live it 
Never too late
man do wish Chest write out more saving guides
it def would be very helpful and easy to remember
Welp, time to zen now until Kalos VA part 2
Saving till Lysandre alt 🙏
oh yeah, i'm suppose to be on my self-imposed exile
as i've commit my greatest sin by ||dumping 69k gems for both Jasmine and Serena||
Thank you lodge sycamore, you fulfill the mission requirements of grass kalos 
Bulba power
I'm done with January, saving mode on 
nice
you welcome
Me too
you know.. that's the last unit i ever wanted in 2022...but whatever... Its finally done
Anyways... Im back.... Im back again
After 1 year
honestly, i want to stop at 500k gems so i don't feel too stressed out needing to save anymore
Gem count, got to 80k so far
30190 gems now...I only need 3500 more gems before I can do enough pulls for a pity on either Anni Lillie or the NY rerun banner...and I am STILL unable to decide between the two 😦
Do you have Silver's expanded grid?
10450 gems left...i probably can enter February with 106k gems 
N won't be necessary with Silver
And for ghost, we have Fantina
yeah, but I am not getting Anni Lillie for viability
I wanna get Anni Lillie because of Lunala
meanwhile, I wanna get NY Sabrina because of Sabrina
so because of that, it's a very difficult choice
Ok, if Lunala is your favorite then go get her
do I choose for Lunala or for Sabrina?
NY Sabrina is easier to rerun than Anni Lillie
well, it's one of my favorite Alola mons specifically, at least
MFs will prolly take years to rerun again
well, the biggest reason why I am asking now is because if I choose for Anni Lillie instead of NY Sabrina, then I'd have to wait for the datamine this month instead as well
because who knows, maybe Palentine's 2023 will have sync pairs I care about
you can wait for a year for NY Sabrina rerun, while it might take a few years for an Anni Lillie rerun
yeehaw, I got consolation prize from the giveaway 
I honestly havent really found out what Im trying to save for, are like any of the units coming out good for stuff?
No favourite characters/pokemon?
New shiny units are released each month, at least some direction would be nice.
alrighty seems my mind does not instantly want to get the new shiny thing for once
Don't want to use paid gems?
Until January 31
Well, January 31 UTC+8 time
Yup not gonna make it
I started at 1st january.
And to pay hundreds of rm is a stretch
Well, she'll probably rerun soon
how to save till 110k gems i have 25k now?? i don't want to waste unnecessary banners but mostly looks tempting
Probably in 3-4 months
U plan to 3/5 a limited unit?
You can set smaller goals - like a pity first, 36.6k.
50k afterwards. And so on.
for ash/Pikachu, sst red / Pikachu & serena / zygarde
that's why I'm gonna save 110k for them whenever they come back
That's what they're saving
Three pities, 3x 36.6k
When they come make sure have at least 36.6k?
Yes
And just dont pull except what u want
You pull if you have a reason to pull
You can't guarantee they won't rerun in bulk. Ash and Red likely will.
For ash and red maybe 72k then
Whether they are your favorites, you lack a unit for that type and such
73.2k
Yeah around there i just use simple math
Good, and how will you handle SSerena if she reruns next month with no gems?
Use her banner duration to save up
Oh i think i can get her. If not im unlucky
If you want to guarantee multiple pairs, save a pity for each unless you want to risk.
Don't rely on luck, it doesn't go well
Well i play enough gacha games. It wont go well.
So just suck it up and post on salt channel
Don't spread your methods in gem zen then 
But this game can clear without limited character, right?
Yes
So can do well without pullinh
But some battles requires some "specific" units
Well, 36.4k if you have 100 paid gems
So its a goal that can be achieved
If cannot do it, then just leave it. No choice. Cannot enjoy the game that way.
When I meant by specific, I don't mean the unit meant for that fight
Gotta remember to not spend and that even if I really want a pair, it’s the beginning of January and there will be Gems throughout the month
I really need to make good decisions
Like what u guys said in champion arena. Didnt have to spend anything. Just good strategy.
Yes, plan your team
yes i have 25k now gonna save for 3 of them and after i have 110k will use above for others
Good plan. If they come earlier just pull if have 36.6k.
That's a good plan, make sure to come here if you get tempted
U tried to have multiple copies of each or just gonna have base?
With the rates maybe u can get em before pity. And save the gem for next
The rates here not bad
It's 1% rates, what are you talking about
Getting units before pity is nice but nowhere near guaranteed
Thats why i said maybe
Hmmmm, I have SS Diantha, but after I candy SST Red, I still have SS May to candy and she's 1/5, and my nickname is my current gem amount and I've done 4 multis into SS Diantha's banner.
It wont be exactly 110k u only have 3 of the wanted unit
the battle challenge missions made me appreciate SCDiantha even more for the rock/grass mission since I'm using off region and have to tank with SCDiantha

Thats terrible luck
WDYM?
my priority for those 3 first then gonna think others f2p units also good for few months
Well lets say u got ss serena and only use 15k gem. The other 11k gem can be save for sst and ash pikachu right. So the next save is 73.2k? I know my mind wont be sane to gather 110k gem
Gathering 110k gems will take at least 4-5 months
my luck in this like cow dunk so not gonna risk 😹😹😹
Unless there is a way to disable scout window
Ok ok.
tried for serena only one copy able to get after pity
same with ny lisia one copy after pity 
One of my gacha trick but it cost money. After top up always got the unit i want
Didnt try in this game yet tho
Anyways, what I was saying a while ago is that:
Should I try to pull for 3/5 SS Diantha so that I don't have to worry about candying my SS May?
Ss may, what is her pokemon?
Blaziken
Tech
Hmmmmm, Kalos and Hoenn are what I want right now, but I think Kalos gets the slight edge
Yes
IDK, ask DeNA
Dena
Why can’t Brendan’s sceptile mega? Ask dena
Anyway I am finally back to being at a single pity
All downhill from here baby 
Welp, I've burnt out my gems for SS Diantha
and now back to saving 
I'm sitting at 83k right now
road to 100k for sure, and then I'll decide what to do
Welp, this time, it's back to saving for Kalos VA part 2
Damn, opening the flex channel is very risky
People getting SSDiantha AND dupes both in a multi tempts a lot
I avoid flex channel like the plague
What ways are you all trying to kill the temptations
I was about to flex my 19995 gems
But then seeing the surroundings filled with that black rock, I just fled away
By not caring about diantha at all

They won’t
Please dont break my hope.. I really want a zygarde
Be it Zerena or any new pair with shiny zygarde, idc
They likely won’t
I really want to complete my aura trio, that empty 3rd spot feels bad
I’m only hoping next month doesn’t have any pal units I like
I do my daily scout by swiping through the thumbnails at the top of the pokecenter screen. I don't go to Sync Pair Scouts and swipe through the big banners themselves
Cause I’m likely gonna pity on rerun
Ooh, nice idea. I will do that too
for me, every new unit from a datamine always feels so good and shiny for the next 24 hours. it's like my "honeymoon" period. I let my thoughts sit after 24 hours and most of the time I'll feel indifferent about most units
if after 24 hours after datamine I still feel like I want the pair, then I'll consider
Hold on
very rarely I find units that I know I want without waiting for the hype to die down. usually only happens to my big faves for my collection
Same, I felt like SS Diantha is the unit that will take my rock team to next level. But a week ago, I realised that double candying aeroblue will do the job, so no need to go behind her
I swipe through the small thumbnails from pokecenter only. I don't swipe through the banners themselves because for sure the different music of master fair and seasonal scouts are going to tempt me
Don’t most rock units get by with sand passives
I usually do daily by clicking on sync pair scout tab, which opens on the kalos special scout (for f2p players, special scouts are useless). So I just go left and do daily
Aeroblue doesn't really require sand, and I rarely use sand teams. I dont even have ingo, and Gigalith I use rarely
The only time I use all my pairs is LG
Oh btw, 19995 gems
For the 2nd time I have saved more than 15k, 1st time when I saved around 33k for annilillie

Thanks bro!
You all help me keep motivated, by your talks (and your super high gem counts)
you can do it 😌
I actually just might save the rest of the year after next month
Ik I can do it, but I really want POWERFUL units for my 2v3 streaks. They aren't easy these days, with hoenn and sinnoh bringing weather gimmicks
There’s a low chance anni or seasonal will have a fav
And probably won’t care about reruns
I just want a Lysandre alt in VA, I will be happy 
Unlikely
He is someone whom you will call "a fav"
males don’t get alts 
Giovanni and cyrus got one
Keeping them as examples, give me SS Lysandre and Zygarde/Landorus
He is a free person
So are the others
The first few days are the hardest. When i try to skip a unit like ss diantha the hardest days are the first few, and then the last few before the datamine
That boredom itch happens of "well, i have plenty of gems and i kind of want X, it sure would be nice to have," etc
Not having pity is not plenty of gems
Cyrus was free and he got an alt for his VA
I think Lysandre will get an alt, just because there are very few Kalos options anyway
I have almost 2 pities
Ghetsis didn't get one, imo, because no way could he compete with freaking N, plus Unova roster is stacked with a lot of characters who are more popular than Ghetsis who would sell more
mhmm
i genuinely cannot think of any characters that make sense for the P2 limited alts other than Lys and Syc
Cause kalos has literally no memorable characters 
I really don’t remember anyone from those games especially not the little group you start with
So.. SS Lysandre possible.. ||
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no, it's because all the major characters either just got an alt (diantha) or had one the month before (serena, calem)
The kalos villain arc doesn’t interest me
Kalos literally has serena, sycamore, diantha kind of, and if you squint you can say calem and lysandre
day 23 of being stupid and hoarding for suit submas
Korrina too i guess
kalos has the detective guy too
Really its only 1. I think serena is really the only broadly popular kalos character
looker? he's sinnoh
Sinnoh
No
but i guess not as special as . not ''obligatory'' characters in other series
sycamore didn't get a merch line to be forgotten like this
Other regions have gym leaders that are actually popular
And that people remember
i like sycamore a lot
I think viola is great ||hot|| but she sadly isnt popular broadly
Mhm. So limited will be either lysandre alt, sycamore alt, or gasp both. Then maaaybe some spotlights? Malva? 
Id love an ss or seasonal viola

I don't mind tierno and trevor staying in NPC hell
it'll have to be at least one of them, yeah
I kinda like tierno
we've only gotten one limited so far and most VAs have had at least 3
Just a happy dancey chubby guy
I remember nothing about him
isnt clemont important on the anime
tierno is great
Or the other 2
i dont like tierno
Cmon Kalos. Pick up your game
shauna is the most tolerable
I don’t like any of them
Johto be like
I wonder what lysandre is up to this time
Here, 3 master fairs and 25k gems
MF MF MF 
No
why
Dena
dena is against children?
if she's a fave it's not a bad idea to have some gems set aside
ah i totally dont care LMFAO
but it would be cool
i like clemont so that makes me like her too
The only thing dena is against is old men

We're due for santa wulfric alt. If only he was popular
You guys think when SV characters come to the game, Larry would be very very popular and get alts despite being designed to just be Some Guy ™️ thanks to fandom influence? 
Same hat
Who
Bruh ortega's official art looks like that? 
Wow. Wow. The disrespect
Whoops
I guess I decided I already made a bad decision, I can’t make anything worse
Apparently I have a complex if it ain’t perfect, it’s broken
Fun
What

Official art cam out?
Restraining for a dupe is a pain also. And someone here says dont pull for dupes even tho i really want to
I really dont need ss diantha at 3/5 right?
Just grid for the b diamond stat move is enough right?
I would rather not waste gems just for copies
Please hold me from getting dupe. There so much more i wanna pull
not recommended to pull for copies unless you’re 1-2 multis from pity
Tbh I haven't even looked at SS Diantha's kit 
Used her and i love her. Tempted to pull for dupes
If you love her at what she is now why do you want more? She does the satisfactory
Yea true. Ok ok hold it me.
Tier list for ss diantha not here yet? How much time before they update?
Visiting salt channel instead flex channel might also help with gambling addiction.
Sina and dexio when?
And i still dont understand if its the same multi pulls i do, that others who get dupes of 5 star in the same multi do
That has never i mean even before i lost my old account, has never happened to me
it’s just a rare occurrence
looking in #gacha-and-flex is an exercise in confirmation bias; you’re only going to see the very lucky pulls from a handful of people in this 27k member discord
at a 2% featured rate you have a 2% chance to get two of the featured unit in a single multi, so expect it to happen around once in every 50 multis (150k gems)
While I pitied Deoxys 🤩
if part 2 has more spotlights (it will), they wont be available in free half anni rolls unfortunately right
oh, but Shauna will! Nice!
For physical fairy damage, should I spend my gems on NY Lisia, or am I good enough already with summer Marnie?
plenty fine with marnie
Oki
Wait until Datamine, she is here for February
Crying she left me !

Kalos will do a total turnover in VA part 2, just like Johto
Johto was weak, VA changed everything
Kalos will throw so many units in VA part 2, that people wont be able to get enough of them
And that too, quality units
and all spotlights
i just hope Drasna gets in somehow
technically they could throw spotlights as part of "Kalos CSMM"
Nah they’ll all be pokefairs
Didnt we get ss gio and ss morty (a little before but he still left w all the johto units)?
And SS Morty is still one of the best supports and SS Gio had 3 types that didnt have many options
Unless u mean style wise?
Cries in didn't play during the event
||DId not have to pity Diantha second Kalos unit I pull I didn't have to pity of the bunch I have went after lel|| Aftermath: 20,986
If next month has no favs I might aim for Shauna Chesnaught is a huge fav I do not want to wait for lel
Man I love using SS gio all the time lol
Especially now that he has 3 zones to play with
Same, tho I dont have firis palmarnie or courtney
Uh I guess I usually go for Rosa units, and a Sylveon would be cooll
Well, that's something. We do have two limited Rosa alts, have you gotten them already?
You know thats copium
I have the Shaymin

Jasmine tinkaton support pair when?
I just realized I’m able to get base Diantha as well this month nvm hype 
You can save for Holiday Rosa then
write a list of favs
Palestine Jasmine 2024
i dont think ash is coming back ever tbh
just like jessie and james
those are really one time anime exclusives
jessie and james were like 2020 and until now they havent even come back at all once
Tbh I want Tinkaton to be a strong physical Steel type, Steel needs something besides Marnie
I know that Raihan exists, but I really don’t like him nor can I stomach Duralodon and despite Steven being a thing, he’s almost 3 yo
Kimono Grimsley cries in the corner
Going to try and save now in case anything I like comes next month, I should be able to get 1 pity next month right?
barely
Gloria, beating sentry entry x2 steel weak glacia: 🗿
Oh, well ig its atleast one
Yes, my steel core is Hop, PMarnie and Gloria, I still want Tinkaton because it’s my fave Pokémon in the new Gen (and if it goes to a trainer that I like, even better)
Dual strike gloria?
That’s just the term for 2 DPS on the same team
Ohh nvm
Wait is that the name of one of Urshifu forms?
Single Strike/Rapid Strike (?)
Comedy
Dont think so
Ig I’ll stick to “double strike” term alveit both are missleading 
The rest of this month is going to be a snooze fest, hope the datamine comes on Masters Day at least
Content ends on the 29th so I’d say 28th is the latest we get
it could go as late as the 30th but most likely by the 26th
I just realized how dry this month will be, we got like 27k since datamine-first 2 weeks and 8k in the last 2 
Looks like we have an ebe, gear event, 2 events (shauna and bede), as well as pmd
Oh and gauntlet
Well, good thing that as my interest in the game drops, I’ll be more able to save and get back to 4 pities before the second part of the VA
guys I have a dilemma
||ss diantha black dress is starting to grow on me||
what im afraid the most is
it would be like sc diantha case
where i totally regret ||not pulling her and instead use 6k paid gems for her which is more expensive||
Considering your position, doesn’t hurt going for a unit you like, maybe wait until the datamine for March? Idk, with 500k I think you’d be safe, but half Anni and Palentines are dangerous months
i dont want to sound like a hypocrite saying i have 0 urge to pull her || but i just realise shes under the majestic outfit condition||
should i just wait for a select instead
My personal rule for selects, is having one unit per category that would make me pull for them, if you’re not aiming for any other select targets and are comfortable waiting until Anni, it’s not a bad idea
oh i see
your threshold for 3k select per month?
since the bundle really does boost the paid gem monthly count
I get the 3k bundle every 20 days/ once a month
The select rule is more so because you can’t be sure you’ll be able to get two or more units of the same category if they happen to be in the same pool
Hence why rn my only select targets are Glojo and HJasmine, if Half Anni as one of them, then I’ll slot in another unit
Depends what you use selects for,
For me they are a way to boost my rooster, since I tend to only pull for faves or 10/10 units, so selects become targets for luxury units that I’d not pull otherwise, like PBea, for example
IIRC should have been 25 units so 5k
Yep, checked the one starting on 31/8 was a 5k select
there was one of each at 3rd anni



That’s huge


