#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)
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Or at least a defensive support like FCail
She got shafted again!
I think she's fine as a 1/5 support
For new players
Incase they get spooked by her
Since her competitors want sync levels to become good
she's fine by the virtue of having 1 bar and maxing offensive physical stats
and potion
She just ages very badly once the newbie's account get developed
I just read her spiky shield and it sounds stupid, if press again, it wont do anything and just cancel defense posture plus it only counter if hit by physical...what if opponent just buff and use special attack?
At least ssN press again will hit with freeze shock
it's all basically
"high skill level required, little to no return"
even Falkner has more return on using Fly skilfully
this is what she gets
and she can't get MP back too, so you can't for example use her in LG to duo with Mew
Even piers got better defense move
Piers is built different
Correct me if im wrong but is she bulkier than Piers?
2 endure and 2 obstruct at base


no really
Mini Potion All 
So she is inherently bulkier since she refeshes hp
she has a bit more spdef but piers has def
and they are def tank
also Piers has the same passive as hers
in 2 passives
but he also lowers enemy def by 2 stages
instead of dealing poop level damage
Mini potion all and buff, i wonder where i read that...oh Nita and Nita probably better than her 
and more HP than him, but Piers also has tons of endurance
she has trap in her kit for Uxie
there's that
these nerfs are just ???
why only the first time
just let her restore 1 MP every time?
Well same as SS Kris
Wish ss kris has the same complaint
ah right she has potion
But no
it's the potion that makes it only first time
But they gave it to OG Gloria instead 
they could have added Trainer Move: MP Refresh on x tho
she would be a 2022 support
if this wasn't only one time
so tldr is dont roll for her
just wait for a spook
Im waiting for her random spook
She's a kalos gen pool
Her kit at base is good imo
Just use your 200 tickets
ah right
Once pool updates in anni
i spent all of them for free 5* powerups
she will be a great spotlight tank too, but we also have Azumarill now
Tf gakon
Sucks that Kali cant buff crit
How many ex do you have?
76 atm
Lol
I stopped spending them
Overkill
Have around 90 tickets rn
Hope got hoopa unbound that's dark type on va part 2 
who
introduce Pasio region tag and more original characters wtf DeNa what are you doing
at least Team Break Admin
someone who took over the remains of Team Break

Just like Rachel and Sawyer
Yep, more original characters will be good. I will take those than lillie's 12th alt
They need to add filters to the "see other teams" feature to filter out units you dont have and even cant currently get
Or at least something that filter out the 3rd anni trio
I just want refresh button
Like other games
Filter specific characters sounds less realistic to implement
both sound very realistic
categories could be good too
but they dont really tell apart spotlight, pokefair etc
and they dont want you to know you can do stuff with only free pairs
Just a reminder that they still havent added the random song filter in the jukebox
I really dislike the non battle themes except a few
They kill my mood so fast
meanwhile me
š
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So you want a playlist?
nah i'm just used to having my apps muted anyway
Not you lol the other guy complaining
i see
Is there a way to see ur own team and not just the most used ones?
In the replay list?
I dont see my own
Don't think so
šŖšŖšŖ

Hope that i can get both shiny wigglytuff and shiny vileplume
Im having fun with eggmons lately especially that now can use full mc team
I wish I could get rid of mine and just keep the shiny ones
When I was new I just formed a team with whoever
Donāt you get 80% of the resources inputted back if you trade in an eggmon?
Or just switch to the shiny rn if resources arenāt an issue?
I would if I had their shinies 
So im just going to leave my eggmons for now and donate them once I get their shinies
Ohhh gotcha gotcha
They give like half of the materials used if you transfer em

I think I have ninetales, clefable, gengar, magmar, and a few others
Hoping I can get my shiny Vileplume soon
I used a few powerups on some of them (3 and 4*) but besides that just like 1 manual to evolve them
Oh and candies/powerups/treats but eh I have tons of those and they can only be used on eggmons anyway
*80%
I did pair with zubat eggmon before, and shiny zubat still not yet released 
I hope this is safe to post without spoilers and I am pretty sure I did not forget anyone, I made myself a bit of a pull priority list that I did order Diantha borders the first and second tier I really want her but she always reruns at the worst times for me lel the orange tier are some units I would only go after if I have like 3 pities
What if any were in selects?
F2P hype
Completely fair 

If I were to spend and were on selects I would definitely go for anyone in the orange tiers if no overlap from both tiers
but there are 2 orange tiers!
woops lel
Faves lists don't need spoilers, you're good 
skip shuana
use it on kalos tix when updated
Ye I am going to albeit its super heartbreaking to do so Chespin line is one of my all time favs and I like Shauna a lot too
I think her banner ends at the same time as either ss diantha or the anni 2 trio so gl getting her from regular pulls
If you're low on gems, definitely prioritise limiteds
Ye I will

I am guaranteed a pity this month for SSDiantha at least (I will cry if Emma happens next month with female meowstic and is limited she would be in the fav orange tier lel)
I hope after Kalos VA I get some gem rest
Same, but I still have a quite a few pairs I want, which r just zone setters pokefair supports and a few masterfairs
I rarely go for non favs but ig i do have a semi big list of wants
Hurm for now, the non faves that i did go before are ||emmet, redlax, palbea, palmarnie, marnie...oh had to add 1 more because i recently grab raihan through select to get gigalith||
I might grab cynthia if there is a select that have her but no faves that need to 3/5 in it again
I am curious to see part 2 of the VA to see if my gems will rest throughout the whole VA
My fav list is kinda short,
but my like list is very long
Reminder to everyone that you need to finish battles in the Hearts United Event 50 times in order to claim all the mission gems 
I want to pull on NY Sabrina so bad because she looks so cute in that outfit... but SS Diantha 
How much do u have
And for the first time in forever, I have saved up enough gems for pity
Good job! 

NICE!
Let the gems flow to you
The gem zen order

So I'm thinking of buying the deal which gives you 3k paid gems over the course of 20 or so days. Maybe I'll buy it once or twice. My questions are:
- Is the game profitable? Will it keep going (like Summoners Wars reaching the 9th anniversary) or is it decaying (like PokƩmon Rumble Mobile which died after almost 2 years)?
- Is it worth to buy the permanent 2 egg incubators and the +8 egg zones?
Please @ me if you have knowledge on those.
number 2 is only worth it if you like eggmons...either to get more chance to get all roles of a certain eggmon line or trying to shiny hunt.
in general eggmons upgrades are very meh
not worth
as it's pretty unlikely to miss the specific eggmon which requires 3 skills
of the good ones
for number one, the game has been stable if not in slow growth, and the amount of characters it could still add definitely makes me think there's gonna be content for at least another 2-3 years
minimum
Egg box only gets you a few extra eggs at the end of an event, but 80 gems for an extra incubator if you like collecting eggmons isnāt too bad
The game def isnāt anywhere close to dying off for years, that much is certain
from what i see from sales data, poma is still hella healthy
to reach near eos state
poma have to reduce their revenue by at least 20-30x
and its NOT worth to buy egg incubators at all
Ok. So I'll get the gems and wait for a good paid banner like the ones we have now.
important to keep in mind, the game will end one day. regardless of when, in game purchases will amount to nothing but a temporary dopamine hit in the long run. if you've made peace with that, i don't see a reason to hesitate.
$3USD is disposable for most, and that log-in bundle is pretty good value relative to this game's generally shitty monetisation
A pleasant milestone to hit before the Kalos VA ruins me š
Good luck!
no luck required because i saved gems
(but thank you, I appreciate it!)
||not enough paid to do shauna tiered pulls
||
||there will be on the day she drops
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I might need to prepare for spotlight on alola VA, there's chance that some leftover UBs become spotlight
with ultra recon squad
49.500 gems i never reached this peak
Trying Road for 100k but might be hard
I kinda wanna try diancie diantha but i don't know .....
She seems like Red pikachu
we will get two more datamines before she leaves
but worse
How many datamines will we get before Anni Lillie leaves?
Because that is another sync pair I wanna get alongside NY Sabrina
Should get 270k too before month ends
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And since you have like 27/28k, the thing you asked in general would end up being a waste.
With that amount, you gotta prioritize just one of them, since both banners have bad rates
I am bad at deciding, sadly
So realistically speaking... you are getting of them, while missing the other
NY Sabrina, I wanna get because of the trainer
Anni Lillie, I wanna get because of the PokƩmon
if you do selects then NY Sabrina should be on a 3k one eventually
that's 3$ if you buy the cheapest login bundle
I should mention that I actually did one single ten-fold on both the Anni Lillie and the NY reruns banner, like, a good while ago, which means I only need 33600 gems in either case
So prioritize Lillie
But the reason I am mentioning that now is because the latter gave me two unrelated NY sync pairs
So at least I have an event bonus for the NY events
Step 1. Wait for datamine. Even as a practice thingy for patience.
Step 2. Go for Lillie and good luck!
Lillie is the best choice in this case
...actually, now that I think about it, why do people say the NY reruns banner has bad rates? Two NY sync pairs on a single ten-fold looks good to me
you lucked out, that's it
the rate itself as a whole is like 2%, but you can't choose the unit you want
so the chance for RANDOM NY unit is decent, but for the one you want not really
as opposed to the triple banners where 3 characters have a high chance (1.5% each) and one of them is very likely to show as the 5* you roll
Im up to 60k free gems. ||spent my last 5k paid today, not buying any more paid for a good while||
I think 70k was my peak in the past so ill break that easily in the next couple weeks
14th is the next datamine?
nah
Why the 14th
oh
it's probably going to be around the 26th
thatās a fair guess yeah
Weewoo weewoo, time for a weekly checkup on yāallās goals!!
No goal atm but trying to save up for a second pity, about 10k away from that (currently at 62k)
Thatās still good!!
well, regarding the leak
I am assuming the leak will tell us the next Palentine's Sync Pairs
this will ONLY interest me if those sync pairs are gonna be any of my favorite trainers
Skyla and Elesa seem to have a good chance, so maybe it's them
Sabrina...I don't know if she will fit Palentine's
...and sadly, Flannery is guaranteed to not get any alt whatsoever š¦
For some reason i feel like my gems counter aint moving i have had about ||35k+|| for like 3 days now
Leak ā datamine btw
What leak?
err...I meant datamine
Probably but lisia and dawn were leaked to have ny alts in october so maybe maybe not
whoops
Ah.
my mind was elsewhere when I said "leak"
O
since an actual leak also happened
...I can't talk about it because it's part of a bigger leak that a friend of mine is involved
and I promised I wouldn't spill the beans
but basically, not only does that friend of mine have to suffer from leaks, but everyone who's even remotely involved with him
including bigger companies
it's some big shit, I tell you
big shit I have to keep a tight lip on
anyway, guess I have to wait until the datamine to see who'll be picked for Palentine's 2023
Iām not expecting to be impressed with their picks
Iām personally waiting for Palentineās Serena to be back.
Im just hoping next month doesnt have anything I want so I can go for ss diantha
I usually dont go for seasonals so most likely not going for any palentines alts, but || I did go for lissi cuz of rapidash ||
Iirc pt 2 of the VA usually has the interesting pairs but then again we got ss n so
well, if the new Palentine's Sync Pairs are not gonna be
Sabrina
Flannery
Elesa
or Skyla
then I'm not gonna be interested, just gonna say it right now
so...how high are gonna be the chances for any of the 4 to be the new Palentine's Sync Pairs? I already know Flannery's chances are literally 0%
which only leaves us with Sabrina, Elesa and Skyla
Who have we gotten in february besides palentines alts? For 2020 2021 and 2022
crossing my fingers for male Palentine alts even though I know it won't happen
Palentine's Burgh, got it
Bro I feel you
We had Marnie and piers in 2021, SS elesa in 2020....2021 i guess the trio counted? Not sure
If we get a zerena rerun next month im hoping I can get lillie in my next multi and then save
I would like gauntlet banner pairs (I have diantha but would like more copies) and ss diantha but theyāll be here for a while atleast
Iām waiting for Zerena rerun as well.
we just got holiday whitney, i wouldnāt count flannery out sheās one of the most popular hoenn characters
I hope it follows the trend of a character who's got an alt with a character without an alt
i hope there are some characters I want, but only in my gem's capacity
Tbh if there r pairs that I want I hope its in a combined banner rerun
93330 gems, hope i can reach 100k before kalos VA 

I just want to snap pic
As proof that i reach 100k, due to its hard for me usually as DeNa keep releasing my faves 
It's 6 resets to Kalos VA ye?
Yep
Are you going to reach 100k ||before pulling SSDiantha?||
She's also featured in Shauna's event, so maybe that means something....
Savers rise up
the more gems i have the more i want to do a random multi
anni steven looks tempting
Then the gems you have go down and then you're just stuck at where you're at
Iād rather have one multi saved and ready for something else Iām guaranteeing than use a multi and have it be a waste.
Man i'm in a dilemma, i wonder if ||i should use candy on my 2/5 sskorrina first or give candy to upcoming ssdiantha that high chance will probably be 1/5 when i get her||
I cannot rely on pokefair select as the choices are too small compared to seasonal select
2, but i want to use 1 on my 2/5 djgloria
Waiting is always valid as well
For sure!
I find myself waiting on candies and either the desire to candy that unit passes, or i still have it and i know its the right choice
Yeah I have multiple tech and strike candies, but havenāt used them yet.
Oh next question is ||3/5 ssleon or 2/5 ssethan or 2/5 sshilda||
Oh right probably MF first
Because no MF select exists
Honestly at this point you might be better off asking in #1009587872342478908
Yeah you can go to the questions channel for these.
Because its just shifting into meta questions. ||ss hilda doesnt need grid at all||
I gonna 3/5 all of them in the future as my goal but sometimes im conflicted on whether to complete older pairs to 3/5 or 2/5 the new faves...i wouldn't have this problem if select scout choices are as big as seasonal select 
Iāve been saving for a while to the point that I forgot some units exist
Definitely worth heading to the more technical channels for these kinds of questions, if you're not candying for faves-only 
Joining gem zen felt impossible at first but now itās day to day patience practice
Kinda great because Iām a person with almost zero patience and sometimes act out of impulse
Oh right Tai, between faves...you usually complete a 2/5 fave first or you even will candy a 1/5 fave to 2/5 and forsake that 2/5 fave?
Because sometimes when I'm about to complete a fave to 3/5, the fave unit already have less usage or no usage by the time i almost complete it
itās good to hear this kind of feedback, thank you
I like my faves at 3/5 ASAP
glad to know this is still seen as a safe space to help people resist those gacha urges
The other gacha I play is shiny luck in PokƩmon violet
Also between a MF fave and a PF fave, which one you will complete first to 3/5?
Pokemon violet is a gacha?
Whoever is the biggest fave 
Okay nice i already got answer to my questions, but man...i hope they add more choices for future pokemon select
6 choices in pf select kinda not enough especially when they keep releasing pf
Nope itās a joke
Because shiny luck is technically a gacha
Instead of poke bucks itās your sanity and patience for one to appear
78k!!! Gonna hit 100k this month since I'm zenning for the whole January 
I will note that I'm in a position where I can be less meta with my candies because my overall roster is strong
For newer players it can be a good idea to check in with #poma-questions etc if you want to double check your candy spending before you use them 
We also have cookies
Mew either needs a buff or a new unit
Mew need

How many NY tickets were we meant to get by the end of that daily event? / How many have you guys obtained total?
We're supposed to get 23 I think?
Iām going to miss the daily 1K š
i only ||got 4/5 Falkner from that banner||
||All my 5 stars were maxed
||
||Got new pair, Hugh and also ?/5 Elesa
||
we can get 2 more tickets tomorrow right?
||I got Gladion||
Yea

I hoard all my tickets and wait to do it on the last day
better be disappointed all at once
I was too impatient tbh, and itās a free thing, not like itās my gems 
Butā¦.it also made me remember why I hate singles now.
I think youāll be fine, I mean if Calem isnāt a fav, thereās no reason you should pull.
This would be a better question in #poma-questions
The helpers there will assess your roster for you!
Like Annie said, this thread is more focused on saving gems for favourites
Ok
I feel sometimes that I should come here to ask for zen about other resources
But since the deed is done
200 stamina, 10 golden books and 38 level 5 power up tickets for 300 gems
Was it worth it?
I only buy stamina deal with 100 paid gems only during VA...kinda a ritual to appreciate DeNa giving
and power boost to my faves
...but man, thats a lot of 38
, what offer is that?
the general consensus here is that no resource is as valuable as gems
but if you're happy with that spend, that's the main thing
All the 9 ticket scout I spend today.. I only got one 5* regular unit... How's your luck goes
got 4 5* out of all tickets (not just the 9 from today)
colress, 2 plumeria, masked royal
i would've liked ss red or leaf since i have neither of them
i got 1 5* unit from tickets so far and it's not even anything new lmao
I got 2 ||one is a new pair for me, Hugh
||
Still only 3 gold powerups for me
I got 4 4* powerups all from the 9 today 
My 30/5 Olivia is gonna be so strong after the 4th grid expansion
Tbh glad I got a handful of 5* PU and my Sydney is 5/5 for the slick dark background once I decide to promote him to EX
Currently Iāve like 90 5* PU and 92 (approximately) EX units, Iāll however refrain from updating pairs until after 3.5, I always feel like I could end up wanting all Anni units and the safety tether is always welcome. In terms of gems Iām over 150k, which is great
In these few months without many faves, i just use my
to 5* 20/20 my support lodge/bp units and bugscyther 
Hey, is using those event items worth getting characters like Kali, Helena and Naomi to 5/5?
Yup
next reset should be the final new years ticket we're getting, right?
yup!
i admire y'all who can save them all up, i spend them the second i get them 
I did that last year
Going to the ticket scout and scrolling to that particular one daily is too much effort 
but this year I figured, it's better to be disappointed all at once than to be disappointed 8 days in a row
true š
ikr, it's put in the middle of the pack, it's so evil
Same š¤
the disappointment each day had the same feeling as doing dailies to me so i started doing them all at once and it helped
tbh it was a good, free lesson about how much dailies suck
(now i just need to remember it
)
i learned it the first time we had the 100 free scout and i havenāt gone back
ofc in this case with only 23 free pulls thereās still good odds iāll get nothing but better to rip the bandage off all at once
it would be super fun to do them all at once, definitely

reminder to exchange your johto VA items, i almost forgot myself
Iām at a strange savings crossroad. I like a lot of the seasonal new years units this time around & have wanted ny Lillie/sabrina for a bit but could never budget.
I had enough for 2 pities, so I rationalized Iād go for Serena frog since re run is less consistent (I know new years will happen next new year) and I want diantha with my 2nd pity because wife.
But then I got frog in 2 Multi and now Iām debating pulling for seasonals?? or save till next year when I can get them all in 1 banner bundle
I think Iāll just save but the seasonal banners are mighty tempting.
Save
the longer you postpone pulling on seasonals and waiting for their rerun, the higher chance you'll need to pity on their rerun when lumped with other units
unless you like a lot of the new years seasonals and don't mind getting whichever one, pulling them right now is still a good choice imo. but only if you genuinely like the pair though
as for diantha, she's around for a long time. we have time to see the february and march updates first
seasonal selects also something to consider if you've spent money
ny lisia and dawn will probably (?) be on the next one
just removes some incentive for pulling both of them now
I expect to have to pity with every seasonal tbh. the rates are so low
I think I will save, and keep an eye out for seasonal selects
I donāt love either of the new pairs that much
yeah true, and that's a good mentality! but if you wait for reruns and reruns, their individual rates become much smaller 
if that's the case, then save
the rates are the same as any other non MF banner
the gen pool 5* rate is the difference
outside of fair multi reruns
Oooo thereās 2 more? Maybe I still have a chance for a 5 star
We had the 4 pair winter, summer and halloween banners already, now new years and palentines next which all have 0.5%
After that itāll be 0.333% like the winter one we just got, so in total its 2% but they seem to be going for 2 pairs specifically which would be 0.666% next yr
probably at 4th anni, unlikely at half anni
last half anni seasonal selects had up thru the most recent fall units
makes sense. would still be prior to their natural reruns in jan next year
oh no the ccalem urge is back
ah, shoot
there's a problem
while the Anni Lillie banner ends on February 5th
...the NY reruns banner ends on January 17th instead
...that means the NY reruns banner will end before we get the next datamine
and I am at 24550 gems right now, too
That is correct, yes.
It's honestly a pick and choose on what you like more
But theyāll come back, probably in a select.
that's the problem: I can't decide what I like more
yeah, in a select I won't be able to run a pity on because by that point, a DIFFERENT banner will have my attention, too
Selects are always paid gems
So unless you have paid money enough for a future select then imo go for the MF that have never had a select
Or unless you're f2p 
But if you are willing to pay, the EX bundle is cheap af
oh yeah, I forgot
so yeah, for me, the next time I'd be able to get another shot at NY Sabrina would be literally next year
and by that point, there's probably a DIFFERENT banner that will have my full attention
But Anni can have seasonal selects.
but aren't those paid gems, too
I am unwilling to pay, BTW
all selects are paid gems
nonono, please don't drop the topic itself
because I am still having trouble deciding
Yeah youāre right lol
So, can you get to a pity before the 17th?
Honestly I would go for the MF first imo, who knows when they'll rerun again
It wasn't an offer, I just raised lusamine and Lana up to EX without the tickets to do so
Reason behind it is that I couldn't beat the Alola challenge from the EB
Because my Alola roster sucks
So I decided to go as hard as I could on lusamine and also give Lana ex so she could tank better
She lasted the extra turn I needed to win
Still, I dropped two raw EXes, 200 stamina, 10 books and the exp materials to raise lusamine to 150
She really could use a grid glow up sometime
...maybe? no guarantees, though
Whatās your gem count now?
I can calculate.
If want me to. I done that method ever since Summer N was announced last year.
Hi, it mentions in data mine summary you can get 31K gems this months, is that from the daily logging or do we need to pay for them?
Really well that seems too easy
Exactly.
Same here, grab the daily 80 gems including the extra 20 at the gems menu.
Im guessing most of the gems come from completing the events
Missions
Mhm. But when the events dry, only login and dailies.
The pins show where the gems come from daily
However, thereās a chance youāll forget to grab the gem deals menu to get the daily 20 gems.
Thankfully I donāt forget.
You can grab them on the way to daily scout
I check tabs so if we logging daily from now we can get 19K gems by the end of the month or is that wrong?
Currently weāre in 18k remaining.
close enough
If you clear all content, sure.
18,890
I also calculate my gem total with the pinned image to calculate how much my total Iāll have by the end of this month.
Gem count, 2 pities achieved
Congratulations! And exact number is just 
Had to do a few sync stories to get to the perfect amount
lol me spending the NY tickets so i get bad pulls as long as i dont get ssred and ssb lol
is New year your favourite season?
if it is,
i think its a banner to consider
imo
I donāt technically care if I get any of them, Iām waiting tomorrow to use all of the tickets. I barely use SS Leaf on CS. Sometimes Red on fire weak and blue on almost any stage of CS.
if i don't screw up i'll end up with like 26k at the end of the month
unless i win 60k gems which is unlikely 
should i save my gems for anni lillie instead of doing 1 multi everytime i have 3000 gems?
As long as you make sure you have enough to pity her before she leaves, I think it doesn't matter if you do mass-pull after having 36.6k or do pulls each 3k you have
Just never spread out your gems to several banners if you can't pity them
May I put in my opinion?
i was thinking about pulling for ss diantha but she's gonna be here until march so she can wait
I like to have the pity ready in case datamine comes up and someone else comes up that I like. That way I can be able to choose between them.
I did the other way with SS Korrinaā¦and well. Didnāt work out.
Walked away with her empty handed, so Iāve told myself to have a pity ready, or no pull since then.
And donāt forget this thread is about saving for favs anyway instead of being reckless with your gems 
anni lillie is my favorite
Have you ||done any pulling yet?||
no i did a daily single pull on her and she's still stuck in 1/400 because i'm saving my paid gems for ss korrina
Whatās your non paid gem count? Is it 3000 atm?
1700 gems but in this reset it's gonna be 1800
wait no
wait let me check
my non paid gems is 140
Soā¦ā¦the bot says 20k is left for Lillie.
Iām not sure youāll make it to pity.
hmmm
lillie leaves february 6...
yeah I don't think you'll have enough to pity
better not continue unless you're willing to 
Man, seeing all old seasonals getting tossed in the seasonal super scout banner made me feel like only the first release of the seasonal unit and seasonal select are the only good ways to get them. As the year passes by, the pool will become even bigger thus even harder to get the old unit unless pity.
Im lucky that i only have 2 seasonal faves for now
Gonna hopium that seasonal select later will have falliris
I want her dupe
Tech candies are always in demand, so i will jump to get copies for my faves through select 
waiting for reset to get my last two NY tickets and do all my pulls 
yep, great point
i was interested in ||getting another XBold|| but the chances were just too low for me to justify it
so it's a good thing to keep in mind with seasonal faves
yay 2 3* bronze next reset 
I have finished mass-pulling NY tickets
literally got nothing until ||the last 2 tickets gave me my 348323th copy of Hilda and 4/5 Bertha||
FEEEEEEEEELS
94,740
today
just a little more to 100k
What Iām going to start this year is behind tracking my gems spent from dec 2022 going forward if I have time Iāll do it tomorrow
i got one (1) 5* from all the tickets and it was a repeat
depresso
repeat as in a 5* ticket
||was lucky with my tickets overall, 4 of them were a 5* altho 3 of them end up as a PU but I will take those free 5 star PUs|| 
Helloo
Welcome to the savers haven!

I'm thinking about pulling for NY-Lisia since I don't have a good Fairy Striker
But I also want SS Diantha
I'm trying to have at least 1 strong striker+ zone per type for all 18 in the game
I have the zone for Fairy but not rock, hence SS Diantha
You have SS wally?
A lot of the zone techs at 3/5 delete stages.
How about rebuff units? Like i treat rebuff as a replacement if the zone unit is not a fave 
Rebuff+another damage dealer can clear stages too
What do you mean by rebuff?
SsWally have rebuff, it increase damage taken for a certain type move
That's true...
Most strong damage dealers also can clear without zone nor rebuff if you bring a secondary striker and a good support
Ohhh right right
Example:SS Wallyās B-dazzling gleam inflicts 1 stage fairy rebuff, making enemies take 30% more from fairy damage.
Ah yes I remember
Realize that a unit like Lisia is very prone to power creep, since sheās a very basic (albeit strong) striker. Theyāll certainly release other strong units like her or even stronger, so Iād say that if sheās not a fave and if the criteria that you listed arenāt the only based on which you tend to pull, she may be an iffy investment
Zone and rebuff are overkill unless you're trying to carry bad units
How many units have rebuff?
I'm trying to carry a bad player

Even just a good striker can carry a new player.
I know you can clear basically every stage F2P but I'm not built for that life
Like scIngo is not a fave to me so i skip although he have bug zone, but thankfully dena release gilbert genesect that have bug rebuff
I'm not a quirky YouTuber
So mint, the question is to you value favourites or damage?
Do you currently have a good rock striker?
Yup, SC Hilda
SC Hilda is a bit dated. But definitely should get the job done.
The benefit of this game is power creep only means higher numbers, not whether or not a unit can clear a stage.
Itās not like the other rock striker options are new, though, CBlue and Emmet released around the same time
You mean Emmet right? Ingo is a support
So pulling for Diantha May lead them into the predicament of seeing a stronger rock striker release soon
Thanks, fixed
Well zone units fix older units, I don't need the strongest unit per type, just a good DPS
Emmet. Cblue, and Sc Hilda might be old but they still very much get the job.
So my SC Hilda seems fine
Olivia is still fine tbh
If youāre looking for a recommendation between diantha and Lisia. Both will resist power creep for some time. But I think Lisia will give you more value based on timelines and gems.
I hope they give her a new unit though, she's a cool character
But let me consult with some others first, make sure Iāve got all my facts straight.
Ooo I was going to pull SS Diantha no matter what since she has zone and I'm a zone collector
It was more a question of whether to get NY-Lisia regarding that
Okay, this seems like a better criterium to pull on. Depending on your gems and your willingness to spend Iād say that you should evaluate what brings better value to your roster
Like if I'd have enough time/gems/if it'd be worth it
I don't need a fairy striker, but I'd be nice to have one
SS Wally is insanely strong
So thereās your answer. If youāre a zone collect. the zone. Sticking to your goals always yields results.
||as someone who has NY Lisia, Iād say sheās fine, currently 2/5 and gets the job done easily, but nothing special and quite boring. My two cents on the unit||
But you still have until the 18th to decide.
Is that when Lisia leaves?
Yep.
Thatās why Iām waiting on datamine incase I want Lillie or not.
Who would be better bede or ny lisia?
While i want to just save i am really lacking a good fairy type
Just save and wait for something better then
Donāt forget Mina.
Na mina just doesn't cut it for me couldn't do piers stage with her so i need something strong enough to do it
Because i am sure any other fairy weak stage that comes around would be a struggle
You got SS Wally?
Sycamore is about to get his EX and power boost, but sadly NY Lisia will be gone by then
Sycamore kinda pops off for me ngl
Sycamore EX is gonna be the goat
No passed on him
And I don't really use him as a support anymore but still 
Lodge Lillie can nuke on type harder than Mina
That's true, I do use her for a nuke
Those 2 have prob been my most valuable free fairies so far
Mina not too far behind ig
I find it crazy that even 1/5 ashchu doesn't do that stage
Hey @sly breach
I just did it.
Mina, Sycamore and EXād SS Blue.
If you want to counter with me, or get help on how to attempt it, better to move to #1009557516369281075
Mina has better kit
Lodgillie has better nuke
I prefer mina because she can actually do something other than nuke
Also Sycamore and SS Blue are patient enough to let Minaās nuke come out after both their syncs ^^
Play rough hits decently hard with proper setup
Cause they still last.
Like with a screecher

lodge lillie is so good lmao
I still need to finish her. I just keep saving her for last.
I only left dawn to work on at lodge. Kinda happy, lodge units are kinda strong 
Decent units for sure!
Cannot wait to get lodge dawn, she's kinda rare bug support
Well bugscyther also exists but not many people have him
Hopefully i can make all of my 3* 4* units into 5*, i kinda underestimated them before but their stats are way better than eggmons and they can even catch up to base 5* unit stats...feels worthwhile to see them having gold frame
Also they have grids, something that eggmons didn't have 
I definitely believe the free units are better than any Eggmon tbh
I even put sp3 on my striker eggmons to make them that bit more usable
but still cannot match grids
Well at least they have uses for gauntlet
But 3* 4* pairs can also be used for region specific contents
As they have regional tag
Gyarados exists
I need to hopium for Jessie James rerun
kinda want them... James's poison gas, and Jessie's toxic power 5 looks nice...and even better if they have grids
The free units have a lot of utility which is amazing. Plus theyāre likeable.
I also gonna do more 5* 20/20 free units in the future, it does help curb the temptation to pull during skip month
Gave sentry entry 2 to cheryl and 5* 20/20 her... she's not that weak to physical damage anymore 
||I was trying to give Mind Games 2 to her and accidentally ended up with Sentry Entry 2
||
Sentry entry 2 kinds good for survivability...both her and scjasmine got sentry entry 2, normal jasmine have wise entry 2 
Trying to get wise entry 2 for dawn but still no luck
I almost done with 150 seasonal faves, not sure which route i will take next:
-Base character faves (lear, gloria, N, lysandre, lucas)
-Anniversary faves (annimay, anniskyla)
-SC faves (scrosa, scdiantha, scguzma, schilda, scjasmine)

Not sure who would benefit more from 150 stats
Imo mega evolving pokemon
Their stat gain on sync is % based so having a higher number to start with gives a higher gain
So i prioritize my favs who have mega evolving partners
Form change that's left schilda, sssteven, ssdiantha, ssbrendan, annimay.
Iirc
Others all 150
For faves 
hopefully for a triple banner of the 2.5 anni units
i had to pity zerena and ingo last year during that period
When does the .5 anni units usually drop? Cause I completely forgot about them
March mostly, well anniMay released on almost end of February
So most stuffs on march
RIP my gems then, Iām most likely getting anni Steven and Lillie at the end of January (already have anni N) so gonna probably miss out on the .5 anniā¦.
So I kinda had a really bad streak of spending gems. And I'm upset with myself because I threw them all away and am kind of restarting my count. 
Mind if I ask some questions? ^^
Don't be sad if the gems went to a fave and you got that fave
Thats what we savers here saved for, for faves
I'm going to be honest, they just went to shiny new characters. A couple got favs but I really just spent more than I should have.
I was not very disciplined with them.
Ouch.
So you have favs running right now? ā¢.ā¢
Me? No.
This game is not that hard that it requires constant pulling on shiny new banners so you can save and pull for faves when it reruns or released
I don't even know what I would consider favs anymore. Lol
Can you name some trainers or PokƩmon?
The one that you won't regret pulling
We have one such person, i wonder if Chest already reached 1 m
Because DeNa doesn't release Clair alts and other faves of him Nita is free
I have a couple that I regret because I can't find a use for them, but that's really not here nor there. I just need to really get back to saving up.
Can you name out their names? Or just write your list to yourself.
If you keep pulling for damages, high chance that a shiny new unit will dethrone the current damage king...so that's why better to pull for faves, well at least we can learn from it...like i also did a couple of non fave pulls before this
Only recently around early last year, i changed
Shaymin and Keldeo have been very disappointing investments that I wish I was more zen with.
Watch em release another fairy striker that beats NY Lisia next month 
AZ tho
I will grab eternal floette... its a mythical in my book 
Someone with 0 gems is about to break 60k gems
12nd Jan
Oh. I assumed cause the period to be eligible ended this reset
Hopefuly the implementation is better than last time
Guess weāre gonna have to see

12rd
Havent do battle villa, but im at 9k8 now. Next goal is 12k gems
Noice!

Weee break 2 pities ...also close to 100k if add both of them 
I was dumping stamina into the wrong Hearts United event stage
Whoops
I donāt need any drinks either which is the worst part
So you got wrong event item? Hearts united got 3 coupons right? 
I still got unclaimed items on ny events, but it's just drinks...not sure if i should claim it or farming theme skill orbs while training area rally currently ongoing 
Still many pairs to max theme skills
When is the give away gems coming?
for the uncertain future, my friend
After clearing battle villa im at 12k1 gems rn
the next goal is 15k
|| I got lillie || so I can start saving now
trying to save until datamine but rlly want to try for cynthia for lodge, ss diantha, or the gauntlet banner
Just don't think about these banners running rn
My plan is saving a pity for Palentine rerun banner, then a pity for Diantha / one of anni banners
Villa is good for gems š
Trying
|| But if there isnt anything interesting in datamine ill prob pull diantha atleast ||
Just try to keep any talk of pulling in this chat under spoiler tags
People here are trying to resist, so 
How much more gems until Kalos VA?
So, I checked my characters, and I can finally conclude that I don't need Diancie, 'cause I have aeroblue, who just needs 2 striker candies to do what I want to. So, my gems will be on rest for the rest of the month.
Finally
Lisia unless ur willing to pull on a select scout + diantha stays longer
If u dont pull on anything else u can still pity her
no worries, I barely have any seasonals 
makes me struggle in seasonal events with bonuses but oh well
Me too, I only have 3 seasonals (does anni 2022 pairs count?)
That's not struggle, that's just less boost to rewards
And once again, I'm using SS Diantha's banner duration as an excuse to pull for NY Lisia
You still are able to get all the rewards you want
mhm, but it's just painful to see 1.2x
I'm used to it at this point though
Wait for the last day of the banner
To pull
You will have plenty of time to decide then
Uh, that makes it 1.6Ć, which is just 0.4Ć less than double
I have || spring may, ny lisia, sc sonia, anni lillie, and anni raihan ||
So that makes me optimistic
Seasonal events in general r just slow
I had 2.0 for both NY events and it still took forever
which is why my lack of bonuses make it all the more annoying 
part of me wishes a mega fave can drop for seasonals
Ye, I only have it for 2/6 of them and one is spring which I skipped last yr so hoping to get the medals this year
but in general I'm not a big fan of seasonal units. the outfits are hit or miss, especially for christmas, and they really need to put more effort into the sync animation 
Yes, I am tired of seeing the regular sync impacts and beams
They have stopped using moves in sync move animations
I have a few seasonals id like but not rlly must haves, HLeon would be nice but the rates are horrible and cant get him on a select cuz im f2p
Seasonal Outfits are for sure a hit or miss type of situation
Did all the event bonus rounds & their missions, the EBs, Moltres missions, BV, weekly gems & pretty much everything at once today
Huge explosion of gems for me today ngl

54k GEMS š„ im in record as saved gems xD
74.3k Gems. First time with two pities saved
||36.6k of those will go away with the Palentines rerun banner||
Great stuff both of you!!
Love it when this happens
||36.6k will go away once SS Cyrus reruns||
Close to one pity again 
I have so much regret
||For reason I pitied for NY Lisia even though I know I will never use her. I wish I wasnāt so numb. ||
||I need to make sure I donāt spend gems on a unit I donāt like especially when there is a unit I like coming out this month. ||
||Like I will be fine pitying for SS Diantha, just would have been nice to not throw those gems away you know? ||
||Felt like I did it just for the sake of it, leaving me feel bad and hollow ||
DR that was painful 
Im sorry to hear it 
But I'm glad we have this space to share those reflections
At least this can be a learning experience and will make it easier to save in the future
Best to look towards the future now, can't really do much about it since it's in the past
I just don't want to make the same mistake twice
Hoping that I able to learn from this and know better next time
I skipped nylisia for my hopium future magearna and enamorus pairs 
Magearna is cool af tho
Hope one of them have fairy rebuff
As i skipped sswally due to gardevoir isn't legendary/mythical
Fair.
Today is the day I go F2P and save until Anniversary.
I fully expect to relapse but I might as well try š„¹
Gem count, nearly did all of BV except for the final battle but oh well
ok i have decided to start saving for anni rai. but i need to get more discipline in general :(
My motivation is to believe a fave of mine will come around 
I'm very scared of Alola VA
kalos va is near, so there's still some time till alola
yes, thank goodness. saving opportunity
I cannot get succumbed to ||pulling a fave to be more than 1/5 in the banner|| because half anni and alola VA are next so every gems matters 
1/5 is enough this game is piss easy
ik the feeling of wanting to max a favourite
via gems
I dont want to max, just 3/5 is enough...i cannot stomach investing to 5/5 
Better to not pull dupes anyway.
i want anni raihan because he scrunkly 
It's hard enough for me to commit to 3/5. I doubt I will ever 5/5 even for faves
i meant 3/5, since that is still the max for 99% of units
i'm never 5/5ing a limited unit
id want 5/5 anni raihan
my compassion for pixels just does not go that far
I won't say never, because my lucas and ssdawn become 4/5 from select scout multi 
it's overkill as you said...game is too easy. hell 1/5 on newer units is overkill
yea these new units are coated in a thick layer of powercreep
can just candy depending on what is more fun atp
can't go wrong
These guys are fun, cannot wait for them to add more 
howād you get them so fast
Regirock rock tomb on a ripple 
vantner candied some of theirs iirc
hence the move levels
ok that makes more sense 
Im not fast, i kinda lack 2k bp than those that never misses bp
Because i like all legendaries, mythicals, UBs...and DeNa only release 5 limited
supports faves
So i spend support candy on them
It's possible if you don't have a bunch of faves and are selective
But definitely not a great thing to do in terms of resource management, no 
Ssdawn, ssmorty, scjasmine, ssbrendan, sskris are all already 3/5
So bp master units it is
Also pairing them with striker/tech pairs that benefit with sync doesn't make you missing support
much
it's very possible, just not a particularly wise decision objectively. but the heart wants what it wants, and the end goal is enjoyment, so if people know the risks, i can't critique the decision
We will all get 5/5 Kantrio eventually lol
Or unless you've been hording a bunch of candies 
I doesn't even have ssred and ssleaf ...so how to 5/5 
Same
Gotta 5/5 my top favs to show I'm a stan 
Love my SSB though
I should remebmer to pull the tickets later. We have them all right?
Not sure, that ticket only gave me 1 hugh
SSL is the only one I don't have and seems like I won't have her for some time
Didn't even get a single 5* from the tickets
Me last new year, let's hope this year is better
(I did get a Rachel though)
I will never have SSL either and thatās okay
im so glad i got rachel and sawyer
At least I have 5/5 Lysandre
I hope to get Rachel, only have Sawyer

I wanna at least complete the duo
Yoooooo
Hope to get Jessie and James 
Honestly I only got him at 5/5 because of my own stupidity
When I first started playing and didnāt know what Gen Pool was so I pitied for May on his and SS Blueās banner
oh that hurts
Then I had to do another full pity and thatās how I got him at 5/5
at least may is a good pair
Yes, itās a funny story too and also a teaching/learning moment
We all have those early moments
True
I once got tempted by non fave zone unit, but i learnt the lesson and now have more willpower to skip non faves zone units and rebuff units
i'd love rachel, if i didn't have to pull on a lear banner to get her š
i hope she gets an event like sawyer or something
That's me with Lucas actually
Got shafted on him since took a pity to get him
I ended up hardly even using him

Yep i pulled palmarnie because i was swept by the zone meta and thinking that she will be a good boost to my hop/solgaleo/gloria
But then i check unit roster
I aint gonna
and put candy on her anyway
And more faves like djgloria have steel move appears
So i ended up not using her anymore
Units to go for that I consider are more worth are the ones that even if you don't use them but seeing them in your roster makes you happy
hi guys dopamine number
it won't last long if feb has what i expect it to have
DOPAMINE!!!!!
but it's nice to look at
Mine lasted for a few minutes 
Oh that's a SATISFYING number
am late but 5/5ing a unit isn't really smth anyone in here can reasonably suggest you do, but if it's something you really wanna do, you understand the risks, and you the gems (or candies) to do so, then we can't really stop you. as someone who personally has 5/5'd a few units, I'd generally say save 2 pities and 3 candies for it. you can use 1 pity, see how far that gets you. if you had to pity the first copy, u can use your second pity, but if you got more than 1 copy within ur first pity, u can just candy the rest and save the extra gems
This tbh 
I feel like despite my unfortunate shaft on NY Lisia felt a bit more painful because of how I didn't really get the amount of copies I wanted and had to candy the rest 
yeah, getting shafted when trying to hit 5/5 can be a humbling experience, to put it lightly
Going to keep 4 *5 candies of each type just in case of a really big fav 
Is there a breakdown of all the scout tickets and candy coins we get each month like there is for gems?
yeye that's definitely a smart idea. I try to stay above 4 of each candy but still tend to set 2 pities aside for charas I wanna 5/5 (since I feel like gem gain is quicker than candy gain)
i think it depends on the events and whether theyāre reruns and what class is associated with the event
#1012256199128915968 message
Have 2 candies of each so far so at least I can 3/5 em
Not the total, just where u get them
oh, I don't think so???? not entirely sure though, sorry
yeye
annie 
the candy coins they count are generally always CSMM + LG + Event Shops + Event Missions
not sure if missed anything
Me with Lear, I don't know where to use him...other than cresselia LA...but I'm happy to see him and hoopa in my roster 
you can get more via BP/Lodge, but those aren't counted obviously
š¤ Lysandre
||bede has been benched since I got lisia but still love seeing him in my game||
Thx
Need 6 coins to 3/5 my CCalem, I think ill be able to get them this month
Good!!

Oh right, he is also in a tough spot...i will replace him with a proper future dark fave like guzzlord/galar moltres/single strike urshifu 
||SS Marnie with Galarian Moltres pls||

Still waiting for Lysandre to get an alt 
Lysandre alt will be rad af tbh
YEEE

I thought BP counted
This is his perfect time
Pyroar normal type striker
There's not really many characters on the VA poster so really hope it becomes real
Unless Sinnoh VA shenanigans
Kinda sad with Ghetsis, he is in the VA poster but no alt
Instead we get N with heels
(It has to be Lysandre and I am VERY excited
)
š

After i read shauna kit again, i think i could use her...just not gonna use that spiky shield move 
Will probably get her when ticket pool updates
Hope they add more spotlight in part 2
Kalos CS next month 






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