Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)

[sturdy flower]

from the ones we have in game Giovanni is a candidate

at the end of VA

[umbral meteor]

i dont think they'll do giovanni over blue tho

[ashen thunder]

They like PFs more now anyways

5/5 is ez sales bump

[umbral meteor]

Its flops so far

but yes

[sturdy flower]

who told you MFs aren't 5/5 too

[umbral meteor]

because they arent?

wdym

its fair-exclusive grid tiles

[ashen thunder]

Those that 5/5 MF now already used to 5/5 even PF

[sturdy flower]

masterfair

[umbral meteor]

thats wrong

For MF they say "master-fair exclusive"

read in game lol

its different phrasing

[sturdy flower]

we will see

[ashen thunder]

Well Leon might get 5/5 expansion
Considering how pepega his kit is for "the strongest champion"

[umbral meteor]

why do we need to see

when we know what phrasing they use lol

[ashen thunder]

Dunno abt other MFs tho

[drowsy saddle]

Fair is both pokefair and masterfair.

[umbral meteor]

yes but phrasing is different

[drowsy saddle]

Which phrasing, exactly?

[umbral meteor]

for mfs in game they use "master-fair exclusive" while for pokefairs they do "fair-exclusive" and these 5/5 grids are "fair-exclusive grid tiles"

[drowsy saddle]

Give an example of fair-exclusive being used in-game outside of that letter.

[umbral meteor]

just open any pokefair

ss hilda

in news section

and then open any masterfair

[ashen thunder]

Is Dena NA or Japanese based?

[sturdy flower]

Japanese

[ashen thunder]

Yea

Thats gonna be nice localisation errors

I already experienced this from other gachas

[umbral meteor]

even in JP wording for master fair and pokefair is diferent

[ashen thunder]

I wouldn't be surprised if spotlight count as fair as well then

[umbral meteor]

-.-

we got melony gordie hugh colress and none have 5/5 grids

[ashen thunder]

Yet

[sturdy flower]

nah, they skip spotlight

[ashen thunder]

Wasn't the initial introduction of grid itself started with PFs?

[umbral meteor]

it did

actually no

It started with flannery

[ashen thunder]

It wasn't Steven?

Hmmm

So free stuff came in first

[umbral meteor]

no

yes

[drowsy saddle]

Hm, that still seems odd.
And they haven't used term Poke-fair exclusive before?
Fair can refer to both at once, while Poke- and Master- fairs are more detailed.
Odd.

[umbral meteor]

They probably had no plans of masterfairs when pokefairs debuted

So they just used fair-exclusive for them

and didnt changed phrasing when master fairs came

Instead made master-fairs phrasing "master-fair exclusive"

[drowsy saddle]

This can be a reason, DeNa does like to keep the phrasing the way it was

[umbral meteor]

ye

but anw they can introduce "master-fair exclusive grid tiles" in future

But i dont think any near ones like for eg the masterfair in dec would have any 5/5

since its locked to fairs for now

atleast for a while id assume

[signal halo]

I started playing way after they've been gone

[timber wren]

i assume it’ll happen whenever leon finally reruns

[umbral meteor]

hence never

[thorny pelican]

Sooooo I see a lot of grids talk

Some sync pair exclusivity talk

aaaand potential sync pairs with 5/5 talk

[warm flint]

SS Blue powerup with unyielding 9 😀

[thorny pelican]

Iiiiiiiis that in relation towards something liiiiiiike

"Anticipated reasons why we should collect resources"?

And if so, what resources should we be collecting?

[spare thorn]

Yeah

Candies probably

[thorny pelican]

tfw Resource Saving Support thread is just "poma-lounge-2" but for high class society 🥂

[umbral meteor]

👀

[lofty relic]

here it is

https://i.imgur.com/FHp1vUn.png

my copium circle of SS alts

[fallen path]

[autumn panther]

serena & greninja smh

[lofty relic]

No

that happens, i quit, quote on quote, pin it

[autumn panther]

you're the mod, not me

[lofty relic]

[mental skiff]

just realized the most important jasmine pokemon havent had a sync pair

[lofty relic]

they're safekeeping it for when low income moment

emergency revenue

[mental skiff]

gonna get all jasmine alt for sure

[umbral meteor]

calem probably pretty much guaranteed out of this

unless they pull a hilbert and give both dragons to N

[mental skiff]

Doubt they give greninja to calem

seem waste

[tawny dagger]

Calem will get Chestnaught

[mental skiff]

that possible

[tawny dagger]

Honestly with Ash in the game

[lofty relic]

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Calem is Froakie's cannon pairing

[umbral meteor]

we still got red and pikachu wdym

[lofty relic]

idk if they wanna be heretics

[umbral meteor]

calem and mega charizard y confirmed?

[tawny dagger]

Calem is not Red

[mental skiff]

canon only matter for lodge

[umbral meteor]

Yes hes blue

[umbral meteor]

selene zeraora also have a TCG card right?

[lofty relic]

they do yeah

i'd be fine with Selene / Elio x Anything but Zeraora is cool

[mental skiff]

Selene zeraora seem possible

[umbral meteor]

i think they could get tapus tho tbf

[lofty relic]

yeah i'm fine with Tapus as well

[mental skiff]

she will have piss clothes on ex

[umbral meteor]

altho selene zeraora shuld happen in some way

even if not in arc

[fallen path]

CC Richu

[round mason]

goodra 👀

[lofty relic]

i can see Shauna & Goodra too also since she's pmuch confirmed

[umbral meteor]

everyone is p much confirmed anw at some point

might be shauna chesnaught actually since she gets the 3rd starter canon wise

[fallen path]

Kalos general pool units? What are those

[lean mango]

I see Shauna with a Bulbasaur probably because of the anime

[lofty relic]

how many pairs in PoMa actually respect anime stuff?

it was my understanding that PoMa was trying mostly to stick to games

i didn't bother checking so i'm curious

[fallen path]

If there’s enough dollar signs to be had, I’m sure dena will consider pairs like anime and manga

[lean mango]

They give Eusine his Crystal manga persona

[maiden kayak]

they already had surveys asking for manga canon characters

a few months ago

[timber wren]

time for green

[mental skiff]

Bruh my dream of leaf and ditto can be real

[umbral meteor]

JP doesnt rest mostly do

[umbral meteor]

huh they did?

[umbral meteor]

Depends if they have rights to use them tbh

[sturdy flower]

that fits the best electric pairs then

[maiden kayak]

yes

it was in aug iirc

[umbral meteor]

i dont remember

was there a survey?

[lost bobcat]

And Yellow

[maiden kayak]

only for the US and canadian tho

[umbral meteor]

what were the questions in it?

[maiden kayak]

forgot

[umbral meteor]

ah

But they asked abt manga?

[maiden kayak]

not specifically

[umbral meteor]

anything else noteworthy?

ah

[maiden kayak]

but they did mention manga

[umbral meteor]

oh

[sturdy flower]

i love Yellow's bug catcher outfit with the huge hat

[sturdy flower]

it was some sort of cross promotion to show off the manga iirc

[hardy creek]

They specifically asked who your favourite manga character was

[maiden kayak]

yea

now that u mention it

i thought it was only limited to spin off games/ content

didnt know it was manga specifically

[umbral meteor]

Ah interesting

[hardy creek]

Yellow in poma let's goooooo

[umbral meteor]

emerald too

[lunar topaz]

Master fairs always have the most boring kits unless you follow meta and I don’t think many here do that

[autumn panther]

hugh should've been a master fair smh

[lunar topaz]

Hugh’s kit is amazingly cool tho

[lofty relic]

hey now

don't tempt me, i don't come here for that

[lunar topaz]

He’s a Gen pool!

[lofty relic]

i know i have to be patient!

[lean mango]

Maybe wait until after his banner is gone

[lofty relic]

his kit ||is extremely fun but i'll wait for selects or such||

[lunar topaz]

I’ll have that feeling once we get shauna and Chesnaught…

[lean mango]

Because he's still scoutable

[lofty relic]

aye aye

[lofty relic]

i assumed Shauna would get Goodra

but i read Chesnaught was her game pairing?

[lunar topaz]

Ye it was

If Serena has delphox Calem has greninja and she’ll have chesnaught

[lofty relic]

that'd be really amazing

[lunar topaz]

Since Serena is like the “canon” protag of X and Y in poma

Serena*

Plz let shauna be a support with spiky shield and buffing crit

[broken mulch]

I thought Hugh’s kit was the dumbest thing I’ve seen in a long time

[chrome nest]

That looks real

[rare swan]

Prayer circle for Calem and Greninja I want to give them my hard-saved gems

Keep going for your faves, everyone!

[lunar topaz]

Praying for Calem and shiny xerneas lel

[upbeat lotus]

Watch him being even weaker than Prof Sycamore

[lunar topaz]

I want it to be a tech 🦦

[upbeat lotus]

[chrome nest]

Sycamore buff be like: crit

[lunar topaz]

If he gets focus group at all that’ll instantly fix his first 3 turns

[broken mulch]

God I really hope he gets that

Would fix my monotype fairy team lol

[lunar topaz]

Literally makes him perfect for PSerena with PDawn

[weary spire]

Maybe I'm mistaking it for another survey, but I think I got it as well

I think I am thinking of another survey where they asked about spinoff charas/whatever else

[hardy creek]

can they do another survey asking about spinoffs in general I need to shill ranger

[broken mulch]

Whenever the only valid for USA and Canada thing pops up, I’m always confused why Alberta is excluded

[tough oriole]

Because sans or something

[umbral meteor]

i dont see from where sst red , anni21 N's kits are "boring" lol

but anw i get it there are some like lillie

[dire meteor]

im gonna shill conquest

[umbral meteor]

why would they wanna promote other spin offs tho

when this game is a spin off itself lol

promoting anime makes sense tho maybe even manga altho manga gets zero promotion nowadays

[broken mulch]

Fuck yeah Conquest

[broken mulch]

Wait what’s wrong with this?

[umbral meteor]

No clue just seems a bit awkward

like they promoted anime because of ongoing masters 8 why would they wanna promote some spin off

[hardy creek]

is it alberta??? thought it was quebec

[hardy creek]

because you should never underestimate what a rich whale with an obscure fave is willing to do the second their fave gets a smidgen of content

[cunning swan]

I agree. I'm a f2p but if they ever drop manga characters... oh boy

anyway, gem update: 57k right now. I should be able to have enough for two pities by the end of the month!

[lunar topaz]

They’re just Aoe DPS with high nukes, buddy moves didn’t make him anymore interesting and N is just high DPS and fire nuke which we’ve totally not seen prior to him

Master fairs as a whole always have that lost design potential where they can be something no other unit has been before but almost every striker master fair with the exception of leon, is a one tap sync nuker which I really do not find interesting at all, and even anni N is like them to an extent Lyra and kris tried to be different which is great but at the same time they still could’ve been way more and these are two characters I love

[honest fulcrum]

I haven’t been at such low gems for a while— just summoned for a fave and I’m happy with my expenditure but seeing a low number is a bit demotivating. Tips/encouragements?

[lunar topaz]

Even the debuffs I don’t find interesting as aoe debuffs can be accomplished my many units now, and despite terrain I still haven’t been like “oh I wish I went for this uhit” like I have Volkner and haven’t ever looked at red and was like this unit will allow me to do smth j couldn’t before, anni n offers SpDef debuffs along with his aoe fire DPS but fire units are so oversatured and all very gold units so that even when j was new I had no interesting in N 🐴

[umbral meteor]

I dont know whats interesting to you then lmao

ig diff taste

[lunar topaz]

I really like setting a goal and a limit for myself if I don’t have at least 2 pities before the start of the next Datamine I make it so I cannot pull the rest of that month or you can start out smaller at one pity

[umbral meteor]

lmao that also depends if they have perm to use them tho

[lunar topaz]

I like units that don’t stick to one role even if their capabilities are not as great as others

[umbral meteor]

red sticks to one role? lol

[lunar topaz]

If a unit can do all 3 roles to an extent I like the unit

[honest fulcrum]

That’s what I plan to do too; I went balls to the wall double pity on Hilbert and now it’s saving time but I’m worried I might miss out on smth cool

[lunar topaz]

Red is just b bolt tackle the unit tk@me

[umbral meteor]

no he is not

[maiden kayak]

red has lax tho

[umbral meteor]

he can do damage , can offer utility and can tank

wdym by all 3 roles

lol

arent those all 3 roles

anni N can also do damage and provide utility

[lunar topaz]

It still feels like another one sync does the job unit to me

[umbral meteor]

??

[lunar topaz]

And I utterly detest rhose

[umbral meteor]

[honest fulcrum]

His utility is quite good

[lunar topaz]

Because if you do those other roles

You’re losing out on a lot from that unit

[honest fulcrum]

Maybe you mean his DPS is just too good so like why bother with the other roles?

Lmao

[maiden kayak]

oh i totally get that

its just click and kill

no fun

[umbral meteor]

how is sst red just click and kill

i think you mean ash

[maiden kayak]

yea those type of units

even ss hilda falls under this (kit too boring )

[lunar topaz]

It’s what makes me so disappointed in Zerena and SSEthan they’re two of my favorites and are stuck to just being strikers with meme Utility otherwise

[cunning swan]

that's just what strikers are, honestly

[honest fulcrum]

At least Ethan is slightly more interesting than Serena

[lunar topaz]

Sync -> bolt tackle you won the stage

[umbral meteor]

so you dislike complicated units which offer much more than one role?

[lunar topaz]

Not all of them are like this

[maiden kayak]

yea

[umbral meteor]

ash is hardly a striker anw

[lunar topaz]

There’s Clair Karen etc

[umbral meteor]

hes almost a tech

since he can also tank

[umbral meteor]

how are they interesting

[cunning swan]

I think we can't compare clair karen etc to master fair strikers

[honest fulcrum]

Btw random q Jass does your gem count include the rally bonuses from this month or nah

[umbral meteor]

it includes everything

[lunar topaz]

Karen can sync nuke offer DPS flinch Utility and Clair working with a bunch of my favs makes me really like how she plays

I’d use Clair over Zerena any day if the week

[umbral meteor]

whats the point

red can also nuke dps flinch utility what

if thats interesting then how is red not interesting

[lunar topaz]

I wouldn’t call one button winners complicated

[umbral meteor]

??

[lunar topaz]

If you’re using him for flinch Utility you’re losing out on the DPS he does offer 🐴🐴🐴🐴🐴

[umbral meteor]

lol

looks @ him soloing 11 LG's

idk how is that not interesting

[umbral meteor]

well ignore flinch then

can just say dps utility nuke

[lunar topaz]

I already don’t like that mode i find it a lot more repetive than CS

[maiden kayak]

my definition of fun striker is hugh

[lunar topaz]

Same

And I’m completely indifferent on who he is as a character

[honest fulcrum]

Hugh is the silliest serious boy I’ve ever seen

[lunar topaz]

And he’s a Gen pool I really want

[honest fulcrum]

His kit is humorous

Me too

[lunar topaz]

They made a. Normal type unit extremely comedic

[umbral meteor]

if ur logic of fun is dps utility sync then saying sst red is not interesting doesnt make any sense lol

[lunar topaz]

I never said that

[umbral meteor]

hes also kinda meta when normal zone comes tbf

along with being fun

[honest fulcrum]

Normal zone real?

[umbral meteor]

yes

[lunar topaz]

I do not find units that are primarily sync techs or supports interesting

[maiden kayak]

hated strikers that rely alot of SE up

cos it applies to 1/18 types only

unless gladion

[umbral meteor]

hugh has nuke

[umbral meteor]

anni lillie

[lunar topaz]

But hugh has a lot more to his kit

[umbral meteor]

ny volkner , leon

[maiden kayak]

and ss gio

[honest fulcrum]

I’m a big fan of tech nukers, striker nukes I only like to use if I’m running out of time with MM for the week lmfao

[umbral meteor]

red doesnt? whats the logic lol

[maiden kayak]

his grid full of se multipliers

i hate it

[umbral meteor]

thats 3/18 types

not 1/18

lol

[maiden kayak]

only 3

[lunar topaz]

Red still is just the meta unit and I don’t like those lel

[maiden kayak]

but

[umbral meteor]

havent you seen how strong is he off type

[honest fulcrum]

Rich do you like SS Steven?

[lunar topaz]

That’s probably my least favorite designed unit in the game actually

His kit was so boring

[umbral meteor]

ah now that makes a LOT more sense

[honest fulcrum]

Ah then that checks out lol

[lunar topaz]

Outside of 2 forms

They’re all just memes

[honest fulcrum]

I find him fun since he’s whatever I want him to be

[lunar topaz]

And not good ones

[honest fulcrum]

Hey sync countdown stuff is kinda nifty

[umbral meteor]

speed form is literally p nuts

[honest fulcrum]

Yea

[umbral meteor]

speed/normal are used in LG solos

attack is for MM

[honest fulcrum]

Defense is… there too lol

[lunar topaz]

I think a couple of the early techs set a co@foreground but then dena never expanded on units like that and are moving a lot of techs to just be striker part 2

[umbral meteor]

they just made them more interesting

techs do everything now

[honest fulcrum]

Which techs are you talking abt?

[lunar topaz]

Misty is still@one of my favorite designed supports because she can nuke she can do DPS she heals the team and offers Utility

[umbral meteor]

literally many do that much better now

if you dislike meta pairs thats fine tho

[honest fulcrum]

I haven’t used misty in a hot minute

[umbral meteor]

but doesnt mean they downgraded their kit designing? lol

[umbral meteor]

last time i used her was pre 2nd anniv

[honest fulcrum]

Lmao

[lunar topaz]

I really love holiskyka design wise same with mallow I’m not even a fan of Wallace but I think his kit is neat

[honest fulcrum]

Ahhh nice

[lunar topaz]

I used misty this week 🦑

[umbral meteor]

you are basically liking most non-meta units

which is fine tho

[honest fulcrum]

I want Skyla so bad lol now that we’ll somehow be able to use pairs w same trainer together

Anni Skyla might be my fav unit to play

[umbral meteor]

hol skyla gets flying zone

[honest fulcrum]

Ayyyy

[lunar topaz]

Skyla is already a fav but I love what does

And she’s still like the only unit with super interference

Oh and clemomt isa. Nice designed tech as well I find him very funny

[umbral meteor]

is nice designed = non meta

lol

[lunar topaz]

No there’s some meta pairs I do like

[honest fulcrum]

“Balanced” might be the less harsh word for that lol

[ashen thunder]

Did someone say ssgio is only 3/18 types?

[umbral meteor]

balanced means doing as much as possible and most meta techs do that so

[lunar topaz]

I might’ve been harsh on SSLyra but I do think her kit is a great exemplifier of what other techs should be minus the perma flinching

[ashen thunder]

275 BP move says hi

[umbral meteor]

but ig by balanced you mean

Not too strong not too weak

[honest fulcrum]

Well yea I’m tryna understand Rich’s definition

[ashen thunder]

How is SSlyra fun but red is boring?

[lunar topaz]

She helps dawn happy face

[umbral meteor]

coz red is stronger

[ashen thunder]

[honest fulcrum]

They’re only like

[umbral meteor]

exactly

[honest fulcrum]

Top 2 units in the game

[lunar topaz]

SSLyra helps 2 of my favs and she is a fav as well

[ashen thunder]

Tbh
I wouldn't even say SSlyra top 2

[lunar topaz]

And 2 of them are electric rats

[umbral meteor]

i think steven does overall more than lyra

[ashen thunder]

Coz SSsteven is 2nd best

[honest fulcrum]

Oh yea true

[ashen thunder]

Lyra is 3rd

[umbral meteor]

ye

[ashen thunder]

Or even 4th

Coz SSmorty is dumb

[umbral meteor]

id say 3rd

[honest fulcrum]

I would love to see someone’s top 10 including all roles

SS Morty is craaaazy

[lunar topaz]

Bertha also has a really cool kit but her not having pecking order irritates me

[umbral meteor]

so far it just seems any non meta = cool kit

[ashen thunder]

100% flinch isnt rly amazing in grand scheme of things
When 60% flinch can be proc'd reliably enuff

[umbral meteor]

[lunar topaz]

It’s not even that

[ashen thunder]

Which a lot of units already have

[umbral meteor]

100% flinch is amazing if thats not mostly ur own appeal lol

[lunar topaz]

I really love PSerena and SCdiantha

[ashen thunder]

I mean
You reset anyways

[lunar topaz]

They’re kits are extremely fun for me to use

[ashen thunder]

She just lets you not reset

[umbral meteor]

ah

[ashen thunder]

Wow

SCdiantha fun

When ssgio isn't

[umbral meteor]

one tap kill

[ashen thunder]

I see sync nuke bias

[lunar topaz]

I love what her kit is and I also never made a comment on Gio

[umbral meteor]

aqua said abt gio.

[ashen thunder]

Ah right

But red is not even as brain-dead as SCdiantha

[lunar topaz]

Stat leech si probably my favorite passive and they rarely use it

[umbral meteor]

ye coz red does a lot more

he has more roles

kinda

diantha is more focused

[ashen thunder]

Diantha has flinch builds as well

[umbral meteor]

ye

[ashen thunder]

But I don't rly see how it's different from red

[umbral meteor]

ig coz more straightforward

[ashen thunder]

If anything his nuke and damage both less than diantha

[honest fulcrum]

Idk if you have her rich but how do u feel about Celesa

[lunar topaz]

I am not a big fan of buddy moves

[ashen thunder]

Oh yea celesa pog

[umbral meteor]

whats the issue in buddy moves tho

[honest fulcrum]

I don’t have her but I heard she’s fun af

[umbral meteor]

well ofc b thunderbolt is boring

[lunar topaz]

That’s unfair I like elesa, a lot but I also do love her kit I think it was super well designed

[umbral meteor]

b volt tackle is p normal tho

[honest fulcrum]

Mmm interesting

[lunar topaz]

I think wally was a nice designed and recent tech

if he buffed crit tho I’d be happy

[honest fulcrum]

Wally’s buddy move is kinda annoying but it’s less annoying than N’s lmfao

[umbral meteor]

basically mainly
Doing only tech stuff = nice designed tech

where it comes to damage on tech it becomes a bit boring

[lunar topaz]

Well diantha is a damage tech

But I do have fun using her

[umbral meteor]

i said mostly

[honest fulcrum]

How about Candice

[lunar topaz]

I love using candice lel

[umbral meteor]

candice also no damage mostly

[honest fulcrum]

Me toooo

Instant EX for me

[lunar topaz]

But I really want to use holiday nessa

[umbral meteor]

[lunar topaz]

Seeing a 3* reach a 60K nuke at base made me love techs a lot

[umbral meteor]

but you said

you dont like one tap kill nukes

[lunar topaz]

I also have severe character biases

[umbral meteor]

[lunar topaz]

That I am never going to hide

[umbral meteor]

ah understandable

[lunar topaz]

lel

[honest fulcrum]

Fair that is what this channel is all about for example lol

[umbral meteor]

ss n trailer in 2 days

[ashen thunder]

Should have said that first

Smh

Clearly someone doesn't like red

[umbral meteor]

lol

[lunar topaz]

That is like the thing with me everyone knows lel

[umbral meteor]

Ah

[honest fulcrum]

Besides Calem lol

[umbral meteor]

ss n trailer in 2 days

[lunar topaz]

Calems kit is my beloved

[umbral meteor]

[ashen thunder]

I only know calem

And kris

[lunar topaz]

His grid makes me so happy

[ashen thunder]

Also richu gonna enjoy double Kris in 3 weeks

[honest fulcrum]

Kris’s grid expansion makes ME so happy

[lunar topaz]

I don’t care what they do as long as they don’t give him SP3 I’ll be happy

[lunar topaz]

Very happy

[broken mulch]

Sp3?

[umbral meteor]

kris has ss serena level nuke now

[ashen thunder]

Ontype*

[umbral meteor]

and almost ss lusamine level dps

[lunar topaz]

I did try and go out of my way to call kris bad because I have reverse copium

[broken mulch]

Wait what? That good?

[ashen thunder]

It's only ontype

Coz SP5

[umbral meteor]

dps is okay but nuke is insane

[ashen thunder]

Offtype she's alright but not anything spectacular

[umbral meteor]

huh off type is also almost 800k+ dps tho

[lunar topaz]

She’s like right in between Zerena and SSHilda

[ashen thunder]

Ontype she's like best water dps

[honest fulcrum]

Isn’t SS serena highest striker nuke?

Or is Hilda higher now

[umbral meteor]

ss hilda is

[ashen thunder]

800k is smth most units do in like past 2 years

[umbral meteor]

with rebuff

[honest fulcrum]

Makes sense

[umbral meteor]

thats why i said its almost as much as ss lusamine whos 900k+ lol

[honest fulcrum]

A lot of teams will enjoy SS Morty + SS Hilbert for the rebuff support

[ashen thunder]

Actually SSserena team can run ssbrendan/SSAcyn
So there's debuff/master passive abuse compared to rebuff locked

[honest fulcrum]

[umbral meteor]

u mean gordie

hilberts rebuffs are only on type

[honest fulcrum]

Oh damn I forgot

[ashen thunder]

Gordie can also set sun

[honest fulcrum]

Oh yeah Gordie exists for fire lmfao

[ashen thunder]

So he's very slot efficient

[honest fulcrum]

That’s neat

[umbral meteor]

ye you can use gordie lillie ss hilda and get guarantee crit aoe sync also

[ashen thunder]

Nah, I'd run smth that drops defenses

[honest fulcrum]

I hope I get him at some point before my stack of galar tickets has to take over next year lol

[ashen thunder]

Than run Lillie

[umbral meteor]

ig colress for debuffs then

[ashen thunder]

Yep

Tho
Zerena's team is stronger

Coz lucas shits out big damage as well

[honest fulcrum]

Lucas is just nuts

Yeah

[broken mulch]

Who to run Kris with? Hilbert and a rain setter?

[umbral meteor]

no

[ashen thunder]

You run Kris with Kris from December

[umbral meteor]

if on type then hilbert yes

[honest fulcrum]

True

[ashen thunder]

3rd slot is flex

[honest fulcrum]

Before December who to bring for rain, May ig?

[umbral meteor]

for off type you can do hilbert kris archie anw

[honest fulcrum]

Oh Archie

[broken mulch]

No Archie

[umbral meteor]

why may over archie

[broken mulch]

[umbral meteor]

ah then may

[ashen thunder]

May is stronger
Psure abt that

[honest fulcrum]

I forgot about him too

[ashen thunder]

Archie only stronger than may when he gets to stack master passive

[umbral meteor]

nah

may's dps is lot lesser

esp without dizzying power

[ashen thunder]

May has bigger sync

[umbral meteor]

and when you dont mega

[ashen thunder]

So you see bigger damage

[umbral meteor]

dont you wanna sync with kris

lol

[ashen thunder]

No

[umbral meteor]

huh

her nuke is so insane

[ashen thunder]

In May team atleast

[umbral meteor]

even has sure crit

its aoe tho

[ashen thunder]

Oh if you want aoe and sure abt one shot then Kris is better

[umbral meteor]

ah

[ashen thunder]

Well it doesn't matter after a month anyways

Since it's Kris with Kris

[lunar topaz]

Kris was free off type side denial prior to grid now I wonder how over kill it is

[umbral meteor]

idk abt kris w/kris i would still use hilbert+kris+archie lol

since she likes hilbert anw

[umbral meteor]

She shuld be a boring striker for you theoretically

[broken mulch]

I'm still pretty sure same person teams is only for Coop haha

[ashen thunder]

Kris, Kris , Cyrus

[broken mulch]

So not sure about double/triple Kris teams

[ashen thunder]

Best water team

[umbral meteor]

why kris kris tho

use hilbert

[ashen thunder]

Rain

Master passive

[umbral meteor]

ye thats why you use archie

lol

but ss kris doesnt buff atk or speed

[honest fulcrum]

I think this’ll change next update

[ashen thunder]

Wait
Kris doesn't have aoe spd?

[honest fulcrum]

Team swift rxn

[ashen thunder]

How does her team even sustain gauge

[broken mulch]

Yeah that's what I'm talking about

They said same person teams are only for certain modes

[umbral meteor]

mga

[ashen thunder]

Ah right

From rain

[umbral meteor]

also thats way slow you aint getting max nuke first sync

[ashen thunder]

Shit then it's still Archie

[umbral meteor]

They clearly said its for battles meaning you cant use it in TL expedition teams

Battles means all battles

[honest fulcrum]

I think it’ll be allowed in all single player battles though, yeah?

[umbral meteor]

Lol ye if you want max nuke first sync u have to use hilbert and 3rd is a rain settler which obv can be anyone

[umbral meteor]

They said its for all battles ye lol

to differentiate it from TL expeditions

[lunar topaz]

Also Whag you said about me thinking reds kit was linear was exactly jt lel I know Diantha also is a bit linear but I like memeing her into any team she shouldn’t be one it’s just how I play this funny game

[broken mulch]

Oh yeah just read the september dv letter, I misread this line lol

[umbral meteor]

red + sst red + ash

strongest team in december

[honest fulcrum]

I wonder what the strongest team will be with 3 of the same char

[drowsy saddle]

Easy, the fav team

[honest fulcrum]

The Skylas work well together

Precisely because Skyla is one of my favorite characters!

[broken mulch]

UGH me without Santala

[umbral meteor]

lmao

2.27 is on server now

quite early this time

[umbral meteor]

3 leons tgt

Yikes 0 synergy

[broken mulch]

Hmm

Triple Hildas?

[umbral meteor]

eh

not really

[broken mulch]

So weird that we can't sort by name lol

[umbral meteor]

hilda ss hilda summer hilda

lmao

[broken mulch]

Not Hilda

SCHilda

[umbral meteor]

maybe we can

by next update

[broken mulch]

Ah true

[umbral meteor]

fire type skill tho

triple reds

[broken mulch]

So many blues… don’t think any of them work well together though

Oh hey

[umbral meteor]

sc lillie + anni lillie + OG lillie

[broken mulch]

SCLillie and Annie Lillie

[umbral meteor]

[umbral meteor]

not like sc lillie gives her anything but anw

works

OG sonia + sc sonia gonna be good

[broken mulch]

The 10% ghost zone chance LMAO

[umbral meteor]

lol isnt it 5%

idr

[upbeat lotus]

its 5%

[broken mulch]

Even worse haha

[umbral meteor]

Ye

[upbeat lotus]

finally Holiday Skyla can have zone

[broken mulch]

Stevens… might actually work

[umbral meteor]

steven + anni steven + ss steven?

[broken mulch]

One of them can be support haha

[umbral meteor]

ye use defense form ss steven

can be decent

[broken mulch]

Thinking of a lol Cynthia theme

Lodge SSR SSA?

[upbeat lotus]

Kukui and his idol - The Masked Royal can be in the same team! Kukui is not shy anymore

[umbral meteor]

altho the most synergetic ones i think are

hol skyla + anni skyla
ash + sst red + ash
OG sonia + sc sonia

skyla because she gets zone

[broken mulch]

Two ashes

Ugh wish I got holiday Skyla

[umbral meteor]

shes our worst skyla anw

[upbeat lotus]

but her nuke is funny

[umbral meteor]

yes

anni skyla nuke more funny tho

[upbeat lotus]

60% flinch is also funny

[broken mulch]

Triple Elesa is funny

[umbral meteor]

joltik + rotom + emolga

pog

[upbeat lotus]

how about

triple Morty!!!

[umbral meteor]

pog

[broken mulch]

Haha that crossed my mind but lol

[umbral meteor]

raihan gets to use anni raihan finally

[broken mulch]

Triple Ns just don’t work

Ooh triple Hilbert

[upbeat lotus]

triple Erika too, most of her alts synergize well with each other

[umbral meteor]

ye

hilbert only male mc with 2 alts aside from red

[broken mulch]

Too bad Techno Blast can’t rebuff Dark

… it can rebuff water tho

[upbeat lotus]

too bad Genesect isnt Dark type

[umbral meteor]

lmao

samurott dps

[broken mulch]

[upbeat lotus]

Samurott nuke

[umbral meteor]

2.27 is on server now btw

Probably 18ish more days

[broken mulch]

Lyras… well SS Lyra helps Lyra survive hits haha

Do any of the Mays work well?

May and Lodge I guess

[umbral meteor]

wailmer and swampert

[upbeat lotus]

Maybun can work as a tank

[broken mulch]

Oh Anime can give buffs, but not sure about her tanking

[umbral meteor]

N's best thing is

Zekrom and reshiram on same team

[broken mulch]

The three dragons United at last

[upbeat lotus]

and they fight for gauge

[broken mulch]

Man drawing a blank of sync pairs with multiple units

[broken mulch]

Haha yeah triple N team gonna be a nightmare

Brendan… works

[upbeat lotus]

triple Red

[broken mulch]

Double tank Dawns

[umbral meteor]

the fact that same trainer on same team could mean in future we get same characters for master fairs but with diff master passives tbh

like for giratina and lucario they repeated flag bearer

altho they could have done pride

[weary spire]

I think personally, it’s easier to rationalise skipping units like these when I can accept what they’re fully capable of They do more than just AOE DPS, but does that mean I need them? The answer’s still no

Because what about everything else? Do I base what I skip on whether a unit has more than AOE DPS, regardless of anything?

That said, it’s fine to consider the meta perspective if some wish to do so, but you need to be v specific with what you’re going for ofc

[umbral meteor]

meta perspective is only way if you have no favs

[weary spire]

Yeah, but need to be more specific with what you’re after & what isn’t as necessary to you

Almost every new unit nowadays does just a bit more, just a bit better

Or maybe they do something a lot better, but they still feel unnecessarily overkill for something you’re already more than covered for

I feel more comfortable skipping when I can acknowledge what they do and come to terms with the fact that they’re still unnecessary

[umbral meteor]

well we are 3 years in

its likely we dont need anything now

if we are playing from the start

you either pull for favs or overkill at this stage..

[weary spire]

I mean yeah, true, but even when considering meta factors, you only have so many gems to spend

Too much is “good,” so what’s actually relevant for you?
But yeah, nothing is needed ultimately

If you went for every DPS with utility in the past year, you'd be so far back in the negative for gems

[umbral meteor]

lmao yeah

[umbral meteor]

i personally like pairs like deoxys genesect tbh ngl who offer quite a bit

[umbral meteor]

Obviously cant go for every

since too many meta units in past year esp lol

have to choose

[autumn panther]

Smh Serena & Greninja incomming

[umbral meteor]

technically no one in game yet has 2 starters

may does but we know she has 2 starters in oras trailer anw

unlikely serena gets any more starter imo

[spare swift]

SS Cyrus too

[spare swift]

If you are talking about PoMa, then Rosa too has 2 starters (serperior and dewott)

[spare swift]

Well, if we remove Maxie out of the picture, then for ground weak stages, she is the most powerful unit available (and meta too)

[sturdy hatch]

Leaf only has starters!

[spare swift]

You cant count eevee as starter

Starter will include the 3 type pokemon = fire, water, grass

[sturdy hatch]

I can and I will

[spare swift]

Then pikachu will also become a starter

[tawny dagger]

So Red has 2 starters

[umbral meteor]

hilbert was first to get oshawott so im not counting repeats

[umbral meteor]

since when was maxie most powerful for ground weak lol are we talking abt 2021

[umbral meteor]

pikachu is also obtainable in wild

i didnt really mean to include pikachu and eevee

[upbeat lotus]

all starters from gen 1 to gen 4 can be encountered in the wild too in the grand underground

the middle stage of Kalos starters are in friend safari

[umbral meteor]

pikachu is even obtainable in viridian forest of frlg

[cunning swan]

I count pikachu and eevee as starters personally

[broken mulch]

Same

[umbral meteor]

they are more like side starters

like side legendaries

[spare swift]

Uh.. then who is the most powerful ground type pair?

Zerena?

[upbeat lotus]

Naomi

[umbral meteor]

ss giovanni?

zerena is not more powerful ground than maxie what

[ashen thunder]

Answer is clearly ingo

[vestal leaf]

Zerena is not bad but nowhere close to groudon or nidoking iirc

Even just because

not ground sync, but wants sync for multipliers and stats

[umbral meteor]

her dps is not as much as them

nidoking also has max move and ST dps

obviously hes strongest rn

[timber wren]

#916852389347196958 #poma-lounge

slow time of the month for saving resources but we still out here doin it

playing the long game

preparing for ss jasmine and amphy, green and mega kanga

[umbral meteor]

green and dyna blastoise

[lusty prism]

Sup zenners

[timber wren]

also good with this

[cunning swan]

Green at all

[maiden kayak]

Yellow

[spare thorn]

Purple

[signal halo]

So, I was looking at base N and there was the whole discussion about the risk of pulling for a pair that could spook me later while pulling on lodge, but

Since N has a 5/5 grid now, would that even be a bad thing?

[thorny pelican]

I might be interpreting this wrong, but look at it this way;

A car you don't currently own, was suddenly given new features and made more expensive to own and improve under your ownership, and you're asking if that's a bad thing.

That's the simplest way I can put it, especially if you're currently saving up for a different "car" and knowing that december and january will currently get a lot of different new "car releases" and your income from your "job" is going to be "low" for the next two months, so that you can only afford potentially just "one or two cars"

Then you might be asking yourself

Why do I need all these vehicles?

"Wait" you might say

"Wait, I already have a car"

"Wait... I already have several cars"

"In fact, I own a whole convoy of cars"

Dost thou needeth so many modes of transportation?

[unborn pier]

Honestly I don’t think he’ll spook you with like a 0.01% rate but if he’s a fave and you have the gems that’s the decision for you to make

[sturdy flower]

Hope DeNa lets me travel by train at some point

[signal halo]

So, N is on the very very very select few pairs in the game that fill all my pulling rules

Limited canon Unova pairs

Having N is, to a very large extent, an effort towards getting his lodge pair and having him on a rate up also allows for me to chase for Cynthia, in case I don't get completely shafted by the banner

5/5 N won't ever hold a candle to the electric pairs I have, yes

But I don't think Celesa could be as flat out powerful as SST red is, being an electric tech

And champion iris won't ever be needed in a world where power boosted Cyrus and Zinnia are in my account

I'm not even sure if lodge N is all that interesting if Serena is already acquired as well, but through all that, when it comes to car analogies, what I could say is

I have cars I can drive, but as a say, vintage car collector, I'd rather be able to drive that collectors mustang than taking a Bugatti to shop for groceries

Colress, Hugh and N are in a delicate spot where they will always be available technically at the same banner, starting by January, I'd guess

But are also faves

[ashen thunder]

If you have patience you can just wait for a free N from some event
Like the one before anni

[willow pollen]

I believed the same thing but Cynthia decided to spook me.

[weary spire]

I guess if you’re pulling for a fav, there’s less concern over a future dupe or 2 being wasteful, but you still need to be comfortable committing to the pity for a fav in the first place ofc

[sturdy hatch]

Joey please don’t encourage 0.01% pulls here

[tough oriole]

I still don’t have Masked Royal or Kiawe and it’s been over a year, with hundreds of thousands of gems. You have a high chance to go to pity

Who knows, maybe N will rerun as the Monthly Fair Focus

[rare swan]

I'm also still missing Kiawe he avoids me

[vernal glade]

It’s been a year and no Grimsley (Alola)

[tough oriole]

Point is, you can never trust the gatcha. I have 5/5 Krimsley and Bertha but none of the aforementioned ones

I hope I get a third copy of lillie soon, she’s a spotlight fav

[lunar topaz]

I I’m missing at least 10 Gen pools

[signal halo]

So, hitting the full pity for N would be a bit sad unless I get at least a decent 5* out of it on the way

My gem count can comfortably fit it

If I get a full on shaft, spending 36.6k for no value beyond the pair I'm pulling for would be painful, yes

But I'd be happy getting even random stuff like kukui

And I still have plenty of pairs that would be helpful for me

Getting N before pity would be a massive plus, since it would kill any need for me to go back to the lodge banner until they release another fave there

Since then I'd commit and get Cynthia, if close enough to pity

Or just save my way back up to 73.2k, which would guarantee me the rest of the Unova pokefairs I want

My priorities are really scrambled because this month has 3 faves, 3 of the highest priority pairs I could ever conceive

And be it due to meta or saving advices, all 3 would be, using logic alone, skippable

Two spotlights and a lodge pair

[weary spire]

If it's not worth the pity to you, I wouldn't do it tbh. I wouldn't count on extra bonuses to make up for the feeling of not getting the value you wanted in pulling for anyone

Nobody wants to hit pity in a worst-case scenario ofc, but you have to come to terms with spending for just the fav alone imo. If it's not worth it to you, leave it be

[timber wren]

this requires a bit of a mindset shift. ultimately you have to go into a banner with the expectation that you will go to pity and get nothing else good on the way, because that can and will happen. if that character isn’t worth that to you, then maybe you shouldn’t pull the trigger

[weary spire]

You may feel more comfortable going for it in future, because there are other favs that have greater value to you which you would prioritise

[timber wren]

oh ron said the same thing

[weary spire]

Agreed yeah

[timber wren]

[weary spire]

Nah, you put that quite well, in a different way

[tough oriole]

What’s the lg banner for this month?

[timber wren]

we have LG this month?

[weary spire]

I think I saw bot say 14 days from now

[tough oriole]

Yea, Torn, Entei, Bulu

But its marnie in lg banner
With SS Blue and Lysandre (the latter is coinciding with his grid expansion)

[timber wren]

that’s a pretty tame set

[weary spire]

Maybe I'll actually grind it a lil probably not

[weary spire]

Oh yeah, Tai's counter in their nickname

[weary spire]

Also wait, in response to this, doesn't the pity reset monthly?

[tough oriole]

14 resets? Are they grabbing lysandre

[weary spire]

I figured it did, as a monthly banner. Not carrying over

I'd be pleasantly surprised if it did

[drowsy saddle]

It does

[timber wren]

i don’t think it carries over

[weary spire]

Yeah, figured

[drowsy saddle]

The banner technically ends and starts anew each month

[weary spire]

In which case even if they did release another fav there, you would have to start from scratch

[timber wren]

to expand on this a bit more: they really aren’t adding a whole lot of new spotlight units these days so eventually you will hit a point between normal banners and ticket pulls where you have the majority of the gen pool, and most of it above 3/5. this ends up meaning that most banners will give you “nothing good” until you hit the featured unit. it becomes a new normal and helps you understand if that one unit is worth the full price of 36.6k

[weary spire]

Tai's waiting for the grid expansion They have him 5/5

[tough oriole]

Makes sense

[weary spire]

1000% true... I've always seen tickets as my best shot of getting particular gen pool units anyway, especially as the gen pool gets bigger and bigger
I only started over a year ago, it was already kinda getting there tbh

[tough oriole]

Alola tickets are unfortunate tho (and unova to a lesser extent)

[weary spire]

I mean yeah, but I appreciate little things like VAs pumping out a lot of a particular region's tickets for those that still lack a lot of dupes or gen pools entirely, especially 'cause you can hold onto them when you're already covered

I wouldn't expect a gen pool you want, but still It's a lil more likely than plunging yourself into the expansive banner pools entirely

Waiting for Alola VA for a better shot at Hala

[summer goblet]

despite missing some spotlight units like Masked Royal, I fully given up on pulling spotlight banner knowing I can get them in a later time no matter how long it takes.

whether its through daily pulls, select scouts, mf pulling, or even ticket scout, i get them one way or another through the iron will of patience

the only way the plan will fail is when EOS happens to this game

[sand crown]

Went from 0-3 Allister in one single master fair. Killed spotlight scouts for me

[summer goblet]

which won't happen for another 10 years

[sturdy flower]

if eos happens you don't have any reason to care about them tho

game I used to play is EoSing soon, but it struggled with players for like 3 years and never improved on the issues

[summer goblet]

you mean the sync pairs i wanted in my wish list, well i would grab them before the game shut down just to play with them for a bit

[sturdy flower]

at that point games often give lots of gems tho

the aforementioned game is giving 100 select scouts basically

[summer goblet]

oh that make sense

[thorny pelican]

This has been the one redeeming factor for me despite the boredom and singular focus a region's VA has been

it's been nice to collect these regional tickets - shame we can't get them in any other way than VAs and Daily Battles

I see them as particularly valuable

[drowsy saddle]

regional tickets for Lodge when

[tardy fiber]

I cannot control myself from pulling region tix each time i collected 30 of them

[vernal glade]

That’s a perfect idea! I should send that idea to dena as feedback.

[signal halo]

So, with this mindset, I feel like I'd rather just quit the game

My account is new, so any full pity where every pull along the way is useless, to compensate, wouldn't be simply a fave, unless said fave was a gamebreaking pair

I tried to set my fave list around novelties instead of meta, but the only thing that would make me go happily through a pity without anything else along the way is uh...

Meta

And that excludes some types altogether, as well, since poison doesn't even have a ceiling high enough to feel worth it for me

But the whole time I've been here, I've tried to pull myself away from my natural steering towards meta while playing gachas

[signal halo]

Like, to this day I haven't pulled on a banner that didn't have a stupidly strong featured pair

And I'm trying to get away from that mindset, but then, what I get are 3 faves in a month that the most advisable choice would be to skip them all, no mercy

From a resource spending angle

I like playing weak fave pairs for novelty, like shauntal

I'm not so sure if I like spending gems on pairs that would end up being weak at the end of the day, if I second guess myself too much about it

So I feel like I'm swinging between going happy go lucky pulling pairs that even my current account has substitutes for, even if just for collection's sake

Or not pulling anything that doesn't make it to tier 0 on power tier lists

Going for the novelty road allowed me to save pulls much easier, but if the novelty is also something that isn't super advisable going for, then I don't really know how to set objectives in this game

[tardy fiber]

Hope DeNa improve lodge like if the pair is level 150 friendship and it will increase move coin rate by few percent

[lost badge]

[sturdy hatch]

Why are you posting that here?

[oak crest]

Wrong section to talk abt that

[cunning swan]

[tardy fiber]

Also pulling just for 300 gems and not 600 gems

[maiden kayak]

Please delete that or spoiler it

u are not even supposed to talk about pulls here

[thorny pelican]

Regular Hilda EX at 1/5 could beat Colress Part 2 with just a Skyla and Critical Hit booster

Someone committing themselves to a loss of 36,600 Gems for an "answer" to a single Extreme Battle course, during a time when we are receiving one of our lowest gem income months for the year, right before the month of December when there are going to be deals, seasonals, masters, and celebratory banners that most likely could include someone's favorite, is extremely poor oversight

[tardy fiber]

Cannot wait for ghetsis power boost

[rare swan]

This isn't the right forum for this comment - I'll be deleting it

[spare swift]

The thing is, there is no fixed way or plan to save, everyone has different likings, different goals, different objectives. Savings should be done according to that. Taking advice from others is nice, but at the end you have to assess whether the plan is good for YOU or not.

Like people save for favs. I have no favs (literally), so I save for meta. Those who want to have all the pairs go for the banner irrespective of the gem count or future planning.

Everyone's savings plan is different. Just follow your mind. If you feel like you want that pair, go have it.

Like when I was a rookie, I didn't know about the savings stuff and the different types of banners, so I just used to go after every banner available as soon as I get 3k gems. I have spent months being broke, not being able to get what I want. But still, there was no reason to quit, because I was happy with pairs I have. Then I started saving, I started assessing units offered and units I have, and eventually learned a lot about the pairs, savings and the game.

For now, just follow your heart and mind, do whatever you want to. Soon, you will find your own way to save. If you will ever need help, tons of people are here to help.

[oak crest]

Reminds me of my newbie days, went for classic blue instead of kantrio banner

[sturdy hatch]

I dumped my gems on Clemont Serena spotlight

[spare swift]

I never summon in seasonal banner, while my first ever summon was in a seasonal banner (NY lance)

I never summon in spotlights but the highest success I ever got in getting featured pair is in a spotlight banner (4 wallys in single scout in wally, lisia and glacia banner. I was not even aiming for wally, I wanted lisia that time. I was very much frustrated over wally and dumped it, for around 5 months, until I learned about crit moves and powerful strikers and saw wally as powerful)

[tardy fiber]

I ||pulled emmet because i thought people would hate me in 3* rock gear co-op event||

Also i got 0/5 olivia and 2/5 brocknix back then

[upbeat lotus]

I got ||3 Wally and 2 Nate in LuSSamine banner||

[broken mulch]

Pulled for spotlight Serena and regretted it to this day

I don’t even like sleep cycling

[upbeat lotus]

The only spotlight I pulled were Lisia (didnt know that she wasnt limited), SS Erika and Sonia

[ashen thunder]

I rolled eleSSa in her rerun banner coz I missed her due to hiatus
Still don't regret it

||Tho I got like 2 SSgrims before her who shared the banner with her||

[oak crest]

ngl i dont even use classic blue much nowadays despite rerolling on that banner instead of kantrio back when i jst started

[tardy fiber]

Compensation

[unborn pier]

Which bug

[tardy fiber]

SsHilbert passive description bug

[unborn pier]

Oh

[tardy fiber]

I read it and i still do not understand whether it is a buff or not

[rare swan]

apologems

[signal halo]

I feel like if I were to be completely honest about what lures me into pulling without remorse, meta still plays a large part on it

There isn't a sheer need for a pair to be tier 0, but solving areas I feel I'm lacking is a big plus

[umbral meteor]

Its apoloresolution

[signal halo]

On that end, N doesn't solve anything, since I have SST red and ash, which makes him just another LG pair at best. His banner was mainly due to collecting purposes and would, yes, be risky, since I'd be counting on hitting him before pity to get full enjoyment from the outcome

[umbral meteor]

They buffed hilbert

[rare swan]

I think meta is a perfectly valid reason to pull if it's important to you and you can manage your gems

the problems start when you feel the need to pull on every new pair because The Meta™️

but if you're picky, I think you're fine

[maiden kayak]

||i dont get ss hilbert buff||

[signal halo]

At first, what made me try and steer away from meta was anniversary

4 meta pairs simultaneously

Then the colress datamine kicked in

[umbral meteor]

By end december ss hilbert will be able to do rebuffs on each target

He wont be locked to only be able to rebuff the mid

[maiden kayak]

lol

i think spark had to change tier list again lol

actually that buff

is

quite op

[umbral meteor]

-2 rebuffs at 5/5 for each target

[maiden kayak]

but cs kills sides fast anyways

oh 5/5

[umbral meteor]

Altho you gotta use 3 techno blasts

[maiden kayak]

wtf 2 rebuffs

[umbral meteor]

-1 at 1/5

2nd rebuff is at 5/5 no?

[sleek whale]

Yes

[umbral meteor]

well either way it can be on each target now

[maiden kayak]

that means he can solo LA easier

i forgot which LA hes applicable

[umbral meteor]

Idk if it will count different bars as diferent targets tho

[umbral meteor]

Latios/latias?

[maiden kayak]

does he have debuff other than metal sound

[umbral meteor]

Ye in grid

[lofty relic]

Hey everyone please remember to be mindful of strategy talk when discussing recent pairs as to keep this space a safe environement for those tempted by current banners, love y'all
however feel free to use #916852389347196958 or the likes as much as you want if you wanna go in-depth.

[maiden kayak]

oh ok

[umbral meteor]

Mainly only metal sound rest is condition based like being super effective etc

[maiden kayak]

oh

[umbral meteor]

[signal halo]

If I am to give in to my meta chaser instincts, how do I become more selective around pairs?

Just so I don't run back into having my gem count never reaching 40k due to pulling over and over

[oak crest]

for me, it depends on whether the pair can help me fulfil a role(mainly in CS) that my current roster can't or struggle to do

[broken mulch]

Can’t tell ya man, I don’t chase meta

In other games Gachas I had the advantage of future JP content knowledge so it was much easier to determine meta and non meta units

[signal halo]

Would pursuing strong teams for all types be an excessive goal? I can do 10k csmm consistently

[oak crest]

it depends on u pretty much tbh

[broken mulch]

Well discounting Normal there’s 17 types and further divided into physics and special

[oak crest]

if u want to steamroll thru csmm every week, it's a good-to-have

[broken mulch]

That’s a tall order honestly

[sturdy flower]

you read that incorrectly, it's just description being altered to match what he does currently

[oak crest]

if not u can go for pairs with kits that you like

[sturdy flower]

it says he rebuffs all targets, but he can rebuff only one

[oak crest]

cos diff ppl has diff playstyles

certain unit's kit may/may not appeal to you

[broken mulch]

Yeah like I loathe using sleep cycles haha

So even during Serena is meta days I never use her much

[oak crest]

i can never uds how to chain sleep lol

[signal halo]

So, I dislike offtyping, that's a thing I've learned by getting SST red and Ash

[oak crest]

always have to pair it with flinch for perma turn denial

[drowsy saddle]

They plan to change the effect

Not just description

[sturdy flower]

ah alright, this is so confusing

so tldr they made an error in the description, and since that's grounds for full reimbursement they will instead buff the unit

[signal halo]

There are some types I feel like I'm already covered by, like water (with may and SS kris), dragon (Cyrus and Zinnia), psychic (Giovanni), dark (MR and capped off Sydney)

There are types I'm on the fence, like fire, since technically, one day silver will hit harder than ash saving Pikachu from the spearows

[drowsy saddle]

Seems that way, yes

[signal halo]

And types I'm outright miserable with, like fairy

[sturdy flower]

there are no truly op fairy units

[signal halo]

Yes, but fairy is in a completely different depth for me

I have sycamore, mina and the Sylveon lady

I don't even have Lillie

[sturdy flower]

Mina and Sycamore are enough on type if you know what you are doing

[signal halo]

Does mina have EX?

[sturdy flower]

no

but Sycamore will soon(ish)

[lofty relic]

Mina needs no EX to do all fairy stages btw

she's the most accessible fairy pair out there for fairy content

[sturdy flower]

she will really appreciate fairy gear

[signal halo]

Fairy will appreciate a lot of things

I feel like skipping iris was a huge mistake in that regard

[lofty relic]

Iris is poison

[signal halo]

Also a type I'm lacking

[sturdy flower]

it's just because her attack stat is kind of low

[lofty relic]

grid your Lucy and Koga then

[sturdy flower]

the trick to making low attack units much stronger is basically to equip gear or have same type teammate for the type boost