#Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)
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there are always f2p 10 streak clears when new LG drops
all pinned in #1012311116778586182
Oh I didn't realize the past lists got archived, that's neat 
Damn i guess we have similar level of unluckiness
Yea i know there are f2p choices but those are a very specific use and i need lots if sync orb to build them all, the thing is my sync orb is limited
Shouldn't it be easier to grid already existing pairs instead of pull on new pairs and grid them
It isnt but i think with 30 attempat the chance of getting that 2% cant be 2% overall with statistic formula but i don't know
I mean yea for old player but like i said i dont have enough sync orbs to make a unit that specifically do well with 1 lg unit
And on the next lg become useless
me trying hard to stay zen when people dm and ping me or just share they got absurdly lucky on banners

Like guzma for azelf back then, now i never use him rip
They don't though. A lot of units are reusable for future LGs. The supports especially
I got lots of support and grided them, my main problem is the damage dealer
I need at least 10 decent damage dealer that can clear lg
not necessarily
Sorry i revised
there's lot of tricks involving lg, you'll see when videos come for this one
To clear lg 10 streak comfortably haha
even tho they're repeats so videos already exist technically
Like what i do at csmm lately,
Thank god ghetsis got an ex this month, he will be a reliable nuker for lg so i got 2 this month from ghetsis and victini
always has been a reliable nuker
So many sync nodes
Yea after i got 10 solid lg dealer for any lg i will just pull for fave
Damn how can you save for 460k gems? That's so many, yiu can pity for 12 units
The passion
Some people here have insane tenacity
Truly Zen
You never seen someone with 800k+ gems yet.... 👀
Aqua have strict criteria for faves, iirc Chest is more strict...pull clair alt and Maybunny only
How many gems does chest have

My highest also 2 pity 
Highest amount I gotten was 66k gems
i went up to 120k before Johto VA
since this time i haven't gone back above 75k
but always had a relatively healthy count
I plan on reaching 2 pities and that means skipping this month
good thing dena made it real easy to skip this month 
The new gem deals are out right? Are they only one-time or do they refresh after you finish collecting them? I forget 🤔
I'm stupid, the calculation I did earlier today was dumb as hell
So... for 2 month it's 10.47 euros for me, compared to 7.47 of the ones without the price increase
The new bundles are definitely good value, but I can imagine myself skipping the $18 once I have enough gems
What are the good physical fire strikers anyway
hilda, ss hilda, ss may, silver
Silver is great with expansion and 6EX
You need another sun setter to make use of Solar Flare 14 tho
Which of the new units are worth going for?
the ones that are favorite characters of yours, and you have enough to hit pity if needed (36.6k)
I have 2k to my name
This is a month to skip my friend 🙂
if youre looking for answers more aligned with meta and how they work mechanically then head over to #poma-questions
and yes with 2k i wouldn’t advise pulling on anything
#916852389347196958 also good for meta talk since a lot of people lurk there that aren't in questions channels
2k is nothing unless you mean paid gems 
Ahahah that was Johto VA for me
The most ive had was somewhere around 70k
Once i get to around 2 full sparks its a lot harder to convince myself to completely skip a month
I can never seem to get to 3 for that reason
i've found having more than 2 is almost never necessary
in the odd case that you have 3 units you'd like to pull in a similar period, if you get shafted on one or two, it's just a waiting game for a rerun for the remaining units
at worst
2 is a great base imo
i skipped 2 full months this year, 2.22 and 2.23, only did daily single. save close to 2 sparks and ssteven and 3 anni pairs used most of my savings
And at this point many of us are loaded to the 9s so I never feel like I have to grab everything
grabbing 4 units in less than 80k gems isn't too bad
yeah better than my last anni but still a lot
so now i have to plan carefully for the next MF
I have a bit of an anni curse, so I save as much as possible
back in dragalia i would understand waiting for anni, since the banner system was quite different, but this game's anni is just different units, nothing really worth skipping earlier units (that you want) for
ooops forget it ssteven and ssred both needed pity. 3 sparks not 2 sparks 
somehow i had better luck in DL, never miss a gala, or always manage to get them offrate 
DL was a mixed bag for me, i rerolled in that game, and got 4 reborn drags + a fav unit
so i had a good base
i think the most i had was 130k, and then the archie, maxie, and 3rd anni happened lol
This may be a dumb question but I got Hilda and wanted 3 of her.
I have about 35,000 and 9,000 paid gems and 2 strike candy. Is it better to use dailies or the strike or…
35k gems?
if u spend them all u wont have a good amount for another month
and will be struggling to get enough
save it
try hilda at 1/5 see if she needs 3/5
candy if u have to
What are your scout points?
strike candies come relatively easy too
they are the most common right
Depends on your scout points + what other units are you considering using the candy on
slightly more, but more importantly we get 1) fewer limited strikers these days and 2) they usually operate fine from base and dont need candy to excel
yeah do not pull more there
that’s more for your own discretion but around 33 dailies gives you a 50% chance to get a dupe, and thats 3300 paids that could go towards a select instead
i have even worse, they take the bad euro price, then convert it again into my local currency at a scam rate
ends up being 4 euro...
i could get euro at way lower at a currency exchange by waiting for a dip and only buying then
why are these services so dumb, wasting their and our own money...
best part euro and dollar are pretty much worth the same right now
Common euro L
Gordy op
By the time you will have another striker that you want to use candies on, you will have more again
on the flip side rebuff is wiped when you clear a bar
Other benefit of using candies to 3/5: you wont be tempted to spend gems to pull more
Jesus
Excellent... can wait until datamine then decide to pull these pretty good pairs
The zen is strong 💪
Still looking over the numbers but we have a number for the end-of-the-month gem count 
it's low
you mean the 26k?
For October
lookin like the lowest of the year
which is still considerably higher than last year’s low but
Tbh, I hope it means that they’re setting us up for something big in December, the last two months have been painfully mid and I’m so sour over the UnoVA, it was my most anticipated event since they revealed VAs and it turned out so forgettable
Gotta expect the low months after all the highs we had
if we had no low months the average would be like 32k for a year
I got what I wanted from unoVA and I'm ready to save the rest of the month
The 3k rally is nice at least
Well, they mentioned december has something special
We're soon going to be able to do direct comparisons to last year
and with it we can determine if there's anything that can be learned
As such, December might look like a normal average gem month
Yeah idk why unova has been so mid atm
the most im expecting for december is an SC event
It's gonna probably depend if there's gonna be a MF or SC for December imo
i was surprised to not see any new MFs for unova
but i suppose we did just get three at anni
But I also would expect a master fair
After how they ||hinted at Hilbert & reshiram|| in the VA I'm kinda scared of a part 3...
Unless ||the "..." From the bag|| was something else
||I believe the … from the bag’s just foreshadowing Kyurem||
they probably don't want to cause an outrage with 5/5 master fair grid so soon
I assumed all MF would be 5/5 the moment the expansions were made a thing
too much money for them to leave on the table smh
yeah, but they might lock a gamechanger on it, like Hilbert's rebuff is till we get other options to get it to 2/3
inb4 archie & maxie grid update add primals
the only thing i dont dislike from those updates is that steven ray could become good
Yeah, I’m at 3 pities now after Hilda, despite being comfortable with gems, I’m waiting until Datamine to decide on N. It’d be weird to skip another absolute fave, but I don’t like the play style
I haven't looked at anything, but kyurem black and N? Instapull. No question.
They did his kit so dirty ):
Im hoping special as in more gems than nov and oct 
and probably 3 MFs coming
Yeah :/ still going for him tho
But i wanna wait for datamine first maybe they redeem kyurem with kyurem white
If December comes up to a 25,000
income and a bunch of new MFs, deals, and interesting pairs come out that are on anyone's list of faves, but if you've spent for any of the current Unova VA sync pairs that are coming out for November and put yourself below a pity's rate by the time you can collect the 25,000 gems...
What do?
A fear of mine is that people are not paying attention to the long term and surging approach of sync pairs that come, one after another, starting December
From start to halfway through December, Seasonals
From halfway to end of December, New Years Deals
From start of January to end, New Years Sync Pairs
From mid of January to February, VA/Master Fairs
From February to mid February, Palentines Sync Pairs
From mid February to End of February, 3.5 Anniversary
Banner after banner after banner after banner of good deals and sync pair demands
Historically, there might be an increase and generous Gem Income from January to February
I just hope people are paying attention to these encroaching details
Since tickets are a resource, is it a good idea to gamble Unova tickets now? Getting Hilbert 3/5 would be a huge huge huge boost to my account
Would it? I don't own Hilbert, I don't see what value he would add that I don't have already, though I have heard he's a great Crit Hit+, Attack, and Speed pair - right?
Arghh... Ex ghetsis doesn't look strong... I tested it....
Looks like I have to put holiday leon in the list back again... 
The crit specifically. He'd be an offensive max out without mpr, which is unheard of in my account
His great crit buff only is accessed at 3/5 soo
Well, it's a 1.5x tech multiplier on top of his usual devastation, pecking order, and sync tiles. Literally that's the only new damage modifier he gets: tech EX
His grid just gives him quality of life stuff
I really wanna spend my Unova tickets for frickin Burgh but I might have to wait for em to be used for Colress
Not that I'm not happy with it
All I care with Ghetsis is the 1.5x multiplier cause hehe
Well, is he your favorite character?
I want a unit with one click attack and done with the content
It takes just a long-press and a click to be done with Pokemon Masters EX

I like having fun with the battles, Kimono Grimsley is one of my favorite gimmiks to use
Lol.... Anyways..... yes... I put back holiday leon in my wanted list
Unless I got 3/5 Hala
Imagine having Hala
well I mean let's be honest, how many gems are you rockin'?
36k gems now
If you're going over a pity's worth then there shouldn't be that much to debate about, right?
Leon's going to be on a shared banner through and through, so you'll need that pity for him
0.5% is no joke
but at least between now and to December you'll be able to collect an extra Striker Candy
Oh... The rates of that
When going for the super seasonal banners ya gotta at least have a pity
Not by a long shot 
Ash is pretty close
Why do you feel you need a 3/5 hilbert then? Please don't tell me something silly like "Because he's 2/5 and 3/5 is stronger than 2/5" lol
I had a pity prepared soley for the Fall Seasonal banner since it's not like I'm getting all that I wanted and I was right
The longer the game goes on for, the more Seasonals are going to cramp up in their rerun banners - if DeNA keeps going this route
Hm? I never said I need a 3/5 Hilbert. I was talking about Ghetsis's powerboost not giving him much and I'm fine with that
I do hope they split the banners
3 year Seasonal Banner where all reruns are 0.33% of pulling 
Oh my apologies I must have replied to the wrong person
No lol.... It just.... give me reason to skip Holiday Leon that's all
I goddamn love Hilbert lol
Ghetsis power boost is fine, I sweeped with Ghetsis before just fine so it's a bit easier, I'm happy that my favorite character Silver got the best one
2 turns to max team attack and Crit and with luck can cap speed too
#Silversweep
Plus flinching
I liked Holiday Leon kit... One attack and BOOM....everyone unable to battle
Hilbert is nice, really like his design
Though I'm skipping SS Hilbert since I'm fine with one alt
No worries 
One of the best general pool units I dare say
I thought EX ghetsis can delete center with that.... But nope... Still weaker and disappointing
mmmm
??? He can
I would give that spot for Sabrina imo
I deleted center without his EX yesterday
No.... I tested it
Just go with an EX support for first sync
With proper quadqueue you'll get to your 2nd and Ghetsis nukes
She isn't limited with her crit buff unlike Hilbert and his 3/5 Crit squad
Just make sure the enemy has -6 on both attacks
Hell, Agatha buffed her sp attack to only -2 but Ghetsis still deleted
Ghetsis is pretty easy to sweep with if you know what to do
........ maybe I did it wrong here.... the grid... Or the playstyle...
Funnily enough I never use Sabrina outside of Kanto daily anymore whereas I still use Hilbert all the time
Ghetsis scales slowly but by the time you can consistently get Glaciates out, he's dealing 3k-4k+ damage after the 2nd sync move
And because the center opponent's being Noble Roar'd the first round rotation there's not much to worry about
you can comfortably reach Ghetsis' power scaling
good old days of beginner
having ghetsis' aoe made me feel like a pro gamer when clearing level 80 content
"Never candy a non-limited 5* Pair" I guess
Should be "Never candy" period 
save em up save em up save em up save em up 
I do this with non-support candies and I hate it
I wanna pull a pair that explicitly needs them
needs
never candy your techs, never nuke
Grims- ah, without grid
Otherwise I'll just do a war crime and pull a spotlight banner, then candy it
why tho
Yes... Ex ghetsis deleted Center!!!........... and it took me 5 attempts to do that!!!!
No... Not worth it
offtype?
Because Colress is my omega fave
are you spending money at all?
Nothing PoMa could release would match it
I still put Holiday leon in my list .... That's it
And no
if the answer is "yes" just buy spotlight scouts for 3$
I'm free to play
Yeah, I'm free to play
Which adds to the offense, but at the same time
I don't see myself finding a reason to ever pull again if I skip colress
That's just how up there the pair is
ehh you are dramatizing
I mean it, to a very large extent
There are two hypothetical pairs that sure, just as good as colress
yeah, but he came here, you will be able to get him quite easily
But PoMa barely, if ever does multiple sync pairs for the same trainer while using base outfits for both pairs
well variety sync pairs
Which is why I believe the two pairs I'd put along with colress won't really happen in the way I want
And they aren't even particularly likely to happen anyways
what are these?
these sound like potential lodge/bp pairs
who else even uses cofagrigus outside of Ghetsis
I can only think on shauntal, but even she isn't guaranteed to have it
Eh, he just needs 3 turns to max his multipliers if you grid double drop on noble roar. Shouldn't be too hard, you can even try syncing with him first instead of EX support but idk how much that'll do
Yes, shauntal and cofagrigus could happen
My ghetsis still isn't powerboosted and nuked Agatha just fine
No EX too
Right, why did I say powerboost 
She uses cofagrigus, jellicent, golurk and chandelure, all unovan ghost pairs
3 and 4* units as lodge characters would be great 
But if they're not popular enough to be a 5* I doubt they'd be in lodge 
They didn't love it enough to take the dragons away from N
either as Part 3 for real or as non VA event that is kinda like VA
That's the third dragon he gets
they love N
I could see them giving kyurem white for mid anniversary
Yes
I wish burgh would get a non-unovan bug, like uh... Heracross
Butterfree...a gmax butterfree can sell 
Oh mega heracross and mega scizor also can sell...i wonder why they didn't release yet
grassy terrain has the same issue and is a terrain
anyways, we are getting far away from saving now
But what if it is a big big fave 
My original question was if I should spend the unova tickets trying to get hilbert
3/5 would be a massive upgrade for me, since I hate Sonia for needing mpr to max crit
right, i keep forgetting you are new
I need another fairy zone or rebuff unit that is legendary, mythicals, UBs....the absence of bug zone might can be fixed by genesect due to bug rebuff....would be nice to have rebuff/zone for ground/steel that my faves have it
Would SS elesa and Bianca get big upgrades from their grids?
she likes dupes because striker
has inertia or something, mine is 2/5 so im not too familiar
Power boost grids? Bianca might have nice stuffs...but for support role sselesa, not sure how they gonna do it because closest reference is boosted glacia and her boost kinda mid
No, as in getting dupes to unlock her grids
he meant grids in general
Oh
If you don't have 3/5 Hilbert, using tickets is a good idea. You'll wait a year for pool upgrade, and even then new units aren't guaranteed, while Hilbert is great here and now.
i will be trying to get 3/5 Hilda for SS Hilda's Extreme Battle 
Only ridicure 2 looks good
So will I, it was a miss
At least unlocked a 3/5, might be helpful for gauntlet
Zebstrika
Excited for elesa joltik
She kinda good as support to any damage dealer that can easily self buff their attack/spatk
53 faves, eh?
any legendary is his "fave"
52
he's the guy who uses 6 legendaries against you in battle
Legendary, Mythical, UBs
The joke is about Joltik not being a legendary yet them being exited about it
Well its a free unit...i still use other non faves just they wont be level 140 and non EX
yes, you are allowed to be exited for something out of main focus
Will you promote them to 140 if one day you get all legendaries to 150? Theoretically
Yep but will be quite far, now im currently doing my 16/52
Almost a third, still good
They seem to be the exception and not the rule. Look at the rest of the lodge pairs
I didn't 140 them because it will mess the order when i filter by level
They're not even uncapped to 140, correct?
Yep
Silver
Me doing 49k exless second sync: ????
Seems like ||they didn't put any sync related stuff on ghetsis boosts to suggest you to sync with SSN instead as SSN and Ghetsis kinda have nice team synergy|| subtle marketing 
||but ssn is an ??? abomination||
Well.. I finally did One nuke center... But for 5 attempts?? No
Just like silver good with ssmorty...seems like they are gearing towards making a power boost unit to be good with VA units...cyrus boost with lucas...zinnia with ssbrendan...only Giovanni doesnt get the treatment
at least silver works with literally any sun
ghetsis just doesn't work with any other strikers due to being gauge hog
I wasn't interested on SS N kit..... Counter attack isn't my playstyle
i mean, works with Pryce if you want to call him a striker
SS N seems like a chore 
||SSN have free move next while debuff the stuffs for Ghetsis Nuke using his B Noble roar so he kinda gauge free that allow Ghetsis to spam his 4 gauge glaciate|| ...my hleon team is easier to make than these Unovans
Are the new purchase bundles worth getting the BP increase daily and the other new bundles??
How much increase will the Bp get 2x?
But its only the daily battle
||but he costs the gauge the first time, and it will mess up your rotation so hard||
||the first time casting free shock, just use ghetsis tm that time thats why ghetsis tm got trainer move ramp up||
||and sync with support ex because none of them are going to do much
||
Kinda depends, like csmm sometimes i just use striker or tech EX first ...like silver can work with just his sync first
Zerena, lussamine
Sssteven
Schilda
If the pair got mega, i usually use them first
thing is, both of these units cant setup their innate in time for it
and without innate tech sync is rather weak
Yeah ill just use hleon or hala
Yep tech/striker units with not good sync, i just use support EX...but got other pairs that can just sweep cs without support ex
I always pair those units with bp master units because they don't have support EX
So i miss nothing during fight
Hopium for sycamore and hop

I will use sycamore more if he got EX because his kit kinda like need to use him first sync
Yep hope so 
And hope they release magearna or enamorus that are tech or striker
Because i gonna sync with sycamore anyway if he got ex
So i hope other fairies faves are damage dealers
Same with hop
, he gonna be a big boost to my gloria
enarmorus could be possible, but im expecting hisui by next year january
if it is january, i hope i can hold my gems by december 
could be triple MF
There's a criteria?
i mean ||it would be weird to make only Dialga or Palkia a MF, and not both||
and ||Arceus seems like a given, but for all we know it will be Eevee instead||
||DeNa could never make a questionable decision, right?||
I feel like ||arceus would be reaaaally hard to implement without power creeping everything if its just gladion 2.0||
You mean ||it will sell better due to powercreep||
||just make it change to the type that has the biggest rebuff and then it's money printer instead||
Just make 18 Arceus sync pairs
Different trainers with different type Arceus
In a completely new banner type with rates worse than Master
No pity
Arceus variety scout 
omg 
18 arceus pairs
Absolutely late ||but yeah it was probs foreshadowing for Kyurem, but what I do see is an RR arc with SS Ghetsis and Kyurem-White since Team Plasma stil has Reshiram. Having a Part 3 would just be shitting on Hoenn cuz no way they give Unova a chance to explain itself and Hoenn to get shafted again
||
Paired with all protags and rivals from every generation 
Yep they might ||save for later, they need some mats to make Paulo VA appealing...they already talk about hoopa unbound form, so white kyurem will be another thing to be added
||
||if Ghetsis gets an alt with White Kyurem dena should make Anni N & Reshiram unplayable /j||
||I'm just in hopium cuz I can't fuckin believe the recent villains have no alts||
Well it will already be messed up with next month's update...not sure how they will do it, all 3 in same trainer team but some trainer have fused pokemons
I was going to say more gems saved but you have a lot already
||Not after Halloween
||
DeNa stopped doing this after heard you no longer collect all villains 
And I'd rather have villain alts and zero gems than 300k gems and zero villain alts
They keep releasing legendaries because i keep collecting them 
Nop am back to collecting villain leaders!! Do it again Dena plz 
Lussamine and scguzma as well?

Will not be pulling for Colress but hope he spooks me in some other pull
Yeah I pray they come on a better time and a better banner for sc guzma but that aint happening
Only admins I would pull immediately would be Petrel, Ariana, Plumeria, and Oleana, the rest I'll just wait for spooks if they're spotlight
I'm probably gonna do the same thing if they release spotlight faves for me...i'm getting them via general select scout, as it gives ample few months time for bunch of spooks also cheaper than 7.5k paid gems tier
I know I was trying to make it slightly better 
But man, the only faves that i can see being spotlights are the ultra recon squad with bunch of UBs
Oh the frontier brains looks like a bunch of spotlights as well
Well do you have a legendary fav tier list
I’d kill for a pokefair dahlia or smth
I dont have tier for them, i just have candy priorities MF>SC>Seasonals>PF>BP Master units
I dont like to place my faves on tiers, just if its spotlight... I don't mind getting them months later
I will do the same if i didn't have enough gems for pokefairs

I'd put Seasonals on par or greater than Special Costumes
Mainly because Special Costumes get rerun at odd times now (November of last year, 2.5 anniversary this year, then during 3.0 Anniversary of this year-ish)
But maybe you have a favorite who is an SC?
Because seasonal select does happen...sc select need to spend 10k paid gems on tier
Aha that makes sense
Sc select scout never happen yet
Like pf select happens on new year, half anni, anniv...i think, i forgot if they happened on run up month as well
Seasonal only on half anni and anni
Sc not yet happen but i already got all of them 3/5 so that saves my gems even if it happens
i can see dena being more strict with the 3k or 5k paid banners like when we had 3k paid banner but it was literally every single seasonal lol. a lot more choice
I hope they give more choice for fair select...like they keep releasing pokefairs these days, and we probably have new players that target old pokefairs like me when i chase zekrom before. Hope they increase to 10 choices per pokefair select
Before this only have 3 units...ssdawn, ssmorty, ssleon
N and zekrom is an actual question for me, now that I think about it
I am an Unova collector and the next lodge banner will be the one of his rate up
In theory I shouldn't spend on it because I can't go for multiple pairs in early December if I need to, in case I do spend
And he's always available
He's in a weird spot where I don't urge for N and zekrom as much as I do for N and sigilyph
There's also the extra that he isn't my only fave among the lodge banner exclusives
I not sure if N ever been chosen as gauntlet pokefair choice...but this time got tornadus gauntlet and DeNa pick marnie instead
I feel like if the unit will be there for the lodge banner you can afford to wait a bit
The main gist of pulling him during the rate up is that the high overall odds of getting him early would allow me to get a 2 for 1
I was a Unova banner also… until this year.
Why
Every month. Almost every month it been harder, and harder to save for those Unova units they kept pumping out, by October, I given up and decided to hiatus my pulls.
I have a strict pulling rule that helps me out
I don't pull on alt costumes
Except game canon ones, so it's really just N, CIris and Celesa
if you didnt have high gems count u defo will have to skip afew
Exactly, and that’s what I’m doing next month.
at least none are MFs tho, and 2 of them are spotlights
PFs generally has a higher chance of rerunning in future compared to MFs
He was, in LG 3 I think. Electric/Dragon/Steel three type scout for Tornadus/Latios/Regirock LG. The featured pairs were N, SS Cynthia, and Gloria
Oh so if Highlander doesn't have enough gems for this month lodge banner, can wait for Gauntlet pokefair
Although gauntlet only happen once every 2 months and not sure which bosses that they will select next
This gauntlet pokefair banner doesn't include N I think?
Marnie is chosen for electric
Ss blue for water
And uhhh Lysandre for flying wasn't it?
Will have to check the past datamines to be sure.
Yep so if they chosen N before, they probably can choose him next time Tornadus Gauntlet appears again...rotates with Marnie
honestly hes fine at whatever move level
my hilbert was stuck at 2/5 for quite long
most dps dealers can max crit anyways
Does anybody knows how much boost is the Bp bundle in the store? Is it 2x of daily Bp?
yep just make your daily battle bp from 60 to 120
so you will have extra 1200 bp in 20 days compared to peoples that didnt buy it
oh and 1500 paid gems
I think I might reach 850k at the end of the month 
This gem decline is hurting the economy
fans self with Gems 
i gonna hopium that we get a second twitter rally on part 2 Unova VA 
Condition or interference?
Interference
Yes... It is SOOOO useful against uxie
But since Uxie isn't included in LG.... I decided to pass him completely
Yes... Im completely underestimate him... but still I skip him
Ah interference makes more sense then, okay...
#1010223517565976737 have been updated for the october monthly gems and november candy coins (ty to chest and tlim for the counts)
gems per banner has also been updated
I was checking the rates on the N banner
And I dont think melony or gordie are available on it...
Even though theyre on ss hilda
How strange
Huh
I guess dena forgot to update the pool between changing the featured
Send feedback and they'll probably fix it next month
So apologems 
We also got the damage bug right? My csmm damage is behind enemy HP bar
That happens all the time 🤷♂️
Missing general pool unit happens all the time? There goes my chance to get apologems 
You won't get apologems for it no
Probably just a copy and paste job for that banner and nobody noticed to update the pool 
They once give us 3k apologems for false advertising in a banner from twitter post...sad 
Well they haven't advertised they're in the banner 
Oh right is our third lodge team expired next reset?
I wonder if i should claim the chests before reset to avoid any errors or just wait and see what happens if the team expires while collecting chests
I guess they'll give you the rewards
The third lodge team expires on Nov 3, along with Fall Iris/Allister's banners
Oh neat, i can collect more lodge stones lets gooo 
man, elesa acting like silver now
1st day and she left literally on the 3rd interaction

(and max vibes did not trigger on the 3rd altho I chose the correct topic)
My N already have bad RNG for 2 days, his friendship level still in 10+ range 
first day with n and he leaves on 90% 💀
it costs MYR21 for the 3k paid bundle?
MYR13.90
MYR 89.90 for the one with yellow coins
Yea.. It's the same price.... wait till my Google opinion reach that amount
My google opinion already stopped giving me survey for 2 months...not sure why 
300 monthly gems today 
Im happy that i able to convert
to 20
today ...a step closer to 5* all bp units 
I wish we could convert more
s per month
Ive long since brought all of the 3*s to 4 so every one i pull is useless
SS Calem in January
11 techs…can get Darkrai to 3/5 with two candies in that case but I kinda want to hold…the struggles of being a saver
I have issues with support candies
Striker and tech are candies that I don't even know why I have
Because every time I think I could have an use for them, I'm told it's not worth it
Really though I'm in that situation too which is why I hoard them
I'm like... not in a position where I would need to use any candy for any reason since the flags/milestones of challenge in the game can be bypassed easily
I've completed so many missions and EBs with 1/5 base units
So I keep asking myself what even is the point of hoarding candies if I never have an ideal target for them
Hopefully DeNA giving new emphasis with 5/5 sync pairs are going to provide a solution towards our candy hoarding crisis
I feel like it's going to be a while though
i suppose if you know you'll use it at its 3/5 capabilities, you should spend the candy. imo, if you research what upgrades it has, along with the potential combinations you can envision with that specific, then sure candy up
but you need to know what you using and how you using the unit
We need a new game mode or goal in the game to give incentive beyond just "small impact utility features"
If I were to use candies, it would be to solo gauntlet with either ss lyra or SST red
its all about the ROI
ROI in this game is atrocious 
Or have a solid aoe nuke with ash or emmet
Virtually 0
ROI?
i have both 3/5, i can answer you in #poma-questions if you want
Return on Investment
Sure
The tangible value you receive from developing and investing in resources on features within the game
just ping me there if you want lol
If your ROI is 100% from a handful of sync pairs such as Mewtwo, Sycamore, Sabrina & Alakazam, Olivia, Skyla & Swanna... And are being constantly given new sync pairs for free that allow you to already overcome Extreme Battles, CSMM, Legendary Gauntlet, and Themed Missions...
Then you're basically already at your limit of reasonable ROI
the only resource we have to save are gems
Anything further is a loss of return on your part and done out of boredom
i mean, i usually candy pairs not out of necessity, but because I like the unit and want it to be even more flexible
pairs like Silver or Cyrus can duo their respective type 2k csmm with little effort
and free or 3* 4* techs with EX have respectable nukes on type
in Nanu's case he doesn't even need EX
man, as a f2p player, this new 3kgems for $3 deal is very very tempting
that's how they get you
will just make it that much easier to save on free gems
yeah, but the great thing is .. is that it's time gated so you can't overspend! lol
As a f2p player dolphin, ...
as a self proclaimed big spender (bought one bundle in half a year)
well haven't bought it yet so, i'm still 100% f2p .. *so far
just dont fall too deep and whale
I might just use google rewards for this
Woah now don't go crazy
google rewards... in all the time I have the app i got 0.1 euro
i've gotten about 28$ or so total
- checks pin*ugh, i forgot to exchange my blissful tickets ..
Always fun to bully blissys for gems 
which country do you live in?
i think we can bully them again soon
ah, no, special rally and training area boost but no blisseys
That’s the best we can do. In this case I use Dark for zone and sleep, so I’m holding.
It’s more of a want. But techs are hard to come by
-3k for a bunch of 3/4* 
it's "sorry daddy i did an oopsie uwu, child"

As much as I appreciate salt posts…same rules apply as flex posts
Cannot wait for 3* fire gear 
fire units go even more brrrr
+60 atk on my silver's 294 atk stats...thats a hefty 20% increase 
Currently leveling up MC solgaleo with lodge N mats...its a pain, i got 2 consecutive bad RNG with lodge N 
Definitely wasn’t expecting Fire anytime soon lol
Thought the starter trio was gonna be last
Waiting for grass gear
for SC Sonia
Waiting for bug gear
pretty sure 3* gear will help lusamine defense more than 140-150 that only give 2 def spdef stats increase
Definitely
Is there a gem count for November out?
Pins
Sorry didn't see it
waiting for ice gear 
it's no bother
may i know why is this shit here ? 
theres no need to post pics like this when u have words to describe it
I understand the thought
I know they didn’t intend anything bad by it, buut yeah, it can still push people
?
I agree with the sentiment at least, image not as necessary 
Scare them straight tactics
Yeah I get that in theory, it’s just that the act can be enough to influence people
You are 
Oh right, why i got plenty dead pulls on 25 gems multi pokemas day? Am i just unlucky or it got bad rates like dena free x100 pulls on run up to anniv?
Seasonal rates I believe same as the 100 pulls
So a 45% chance it’s dead
Although I feel I have far more dead than 45% 
Yep even the 100 paid gems also i think not really good but it at least have 1 guaranteed 5*
How valuable would be a fave if he's a lodge pair?
I feel I'd be happy having all of the exclusives and getting one early would allow me to get some more upon hitting pity
Since I like Cynthia and Raihan too
While not minding marnie
Held villa off till very last minite
you procrastinated on villa 
It’s better than me completely forgetting about it
I will grab non fave pokefair if its lodge equivalent have fave legendaries, mythicals, UBs
So
N is a specific case
Sigilyph is my favourite psychic pokemon
Because he's something the language filter would block me from saying
and you only pull on "canon" right? so no poma-exclusive outfits
Yes
Context
I played a match of randomized pokemon teams with a friend and I had the so called sigilyph
Lodge pairs kinda canon, N does have sigilyph so in your case...if you want to chase canon, you need to pull all lodge pokefairs
I swept through Arceus with it
6-0
And she rage quit
Having a moment so glorious made me particularly attached to sigilyph
Arceus was really the worst offender through sigilyph's rampage
N have sigilyph in the game, he used during Nimbasa city fight
So seeing it there made me keep wondering when I should get it
Since much like colress, it's technically always within reach
Assuming 0.1 odds when the next lodge fave banner appears, since colress and Hugh will be in the pool too
Lodge would have likely 3% chance of landing on a fave
And that's the thing that puzzles me
How much to spend, if I'll still be happy if I fail the 95% odds of getting N early
Well if i got enough gems, i will chase my fave that is available that time, if not i just wait for rerun
if N and Sigilyph is a fave, this month's a good time to grab him (with Cynthia and Raihan as potential bonuses). if you don't get N until pity, maybe make a decision between pitying Cynthia or Raihan because N has a shot at appearing in future gauntlet banners (Raihan does too, but he hasn't ever been in one)
Are you Malaysian?
True, especially this month Tornadus Gauntlet rerun but they didn't rerun N and instead they rerun Marnie...plus cannot trust Gauntlet rerun much because the lineup of bosses are random every 2 months
Nope. Msia’s neighbour
Im Malaysian 
You and me both
i think i saw another Malaysian @uncut fern iirc
Og Hilda can clear Colress with proper support. Meanwhile Rosa is rather pushover damage wise
Yes.... You don't need SS Hilda to clear it... I think colress stage is the easiest one
even with accuracy debuff... The powerful nuke can clear it
Cringe..... the Spotlight Select Scout costs 3000 gems
They used to be 1500-2000 iirc
Courtney isnt even on the select list
What a weird banner.... Just leave it
Oh dw I'm not touching a spotlight select
But it's bad omen... if paid gems got cheaper but selects are more expensive
yep.. I noticed... its the same for pokefair select and seasonal select
everything i suspected is coming to fruition 
Sadly same
We'll see in 4 weeks with the next datamine if they do seasonal/PokeFair selects for December.
Like on one hand they literally made paid gems like 7x cheaper. On the other hand it still feels dirty.
Sure. So we'll see next datamine if there's any selects or not too 😛
neat more selects is good for me, especially value-wise a fair/seasonal select is cheaper for getting dupes than buying the coin bundle for dupes
hurm but can grab 2 3k selects with coin bundle so 3 dupes

But it costs so much more lol
Coin bundle is a low-key scam imo, the value for $ is not there
but overgro it's cheaper than buying gems from the shop!
Yeah but not like you need huge amounts of paid gems stockpiled anyways
Unless u big whale
i need to see new master fair gem bundles first, need to see if the offers are worse than daily bundle's value
the new event gem bundle kinda bad although they increase amount of gems
i only have 6.6k paid gems currently, so i gonna stock up more so that i have enough when the situation demands it as these bundles are time gated while other gem offers that are instant addition to your amount are way more expensive.
2k october event gem special 6 costs me MYR 59.90, daily gem bundle EX for 3k paid over 20 days only costs me MYR 13.90
But ideally you'll never need such a huge immediate influx of gems... if you do it's probably better to wait than waste real money
well if what you said in here happen, a nice big influx of gems are welcome
especially when multiple selects happening in same time
as it needs more than 30 days of daily gem bundle EX to afford 1 5k pokefair select
I don't agree with the candy package being a scam honestly
It definitely is good the first three times or so don't quote me on this it definitely depends acc to account but I think it genuinely has value for players
Selects is not a catch all solutions
Since MFs don't appear
Especially for newer players who didn't farm the previous events
BP is definitely a scam
yep agree, bp is a scam
Imagine gacha game being consumer friendly or any major corporation for that matter tbh

well but i can understand that some players that didnt have much units to candy might think the candy is bad value...i also probably just gonna buy it for just 2 months, to complete my MF units that are still 1/5 and then back to just basic bundle
It is a niche playerbase I agree tho
U have to be like mid game?
Ppl who play for long alr got alot of candies stockpiled
Vs newbies who don't have units that need it
Is the middle group
true especially because i joined right after team magma aqua event ended, and i heard they they got move candy for free
...and that prestige event as well
I do think it depreciate in value quickly though
So buy that when u know when u actually can use it
Unlike the other deal
Where there is not much downside
Outside of ya know paying
yep, thats why i gonna grab to just complete my MF units...pokefairs and seasonals can just grab the selects using paid gems that come with the bundle anyways
Buying both in tandem is overkill imo
7000 is 2 select alr
Or top up 1k for a 5000 for if you need it
and i think its way better for me to do it like this than pulling continuously in the banner for dupes, the second copy might costs 33.6k even if you got first copy in first multi
I just gonna buy coin bundle three times then stop
well whales and youtubers pull continuously to get 3/5 and some even 5/5 
i just gonna stop at first copy, and then candy or selects for dupes
My guess is dena plans on a subscription model
And these bundles are to assess what should be in it
And pricing
i like this current one, like you can just stop after 20 days end...no strings attached, subscription i need to search at google playstore settings to stop auto renew 
Idk what a subscription could have to entice me besides more gems. 3 dollars for 3k gems is enough for any deal chaser who only wants to use paid gems on selects
Like as long as they have this sync orb bundle
Maybe a sub only select banner
Or a sub-only scout points cap of 200 instead of 400
Certain exclusive units locked behind battle pass...like genshin have exclusive weapons, here might have exclusive pairs
but we might be approaching eos soon if they did that...i cannot imagine the backlash
Not like we have customizations here if they want to lock certain outfits behind subscription, so only exclusive sync pairs can be offered
Only point of comparison i have is with feh
Which locks quality of life changes behind its sub
Isn't the sync orb thing the subscription model alt
Bruh saving gems is hard for someone like me :v
Will december has good gems count... They say good things come in december
not much to gain from rolling SS Hilbert if I already have 3/5 Alder right?
Last time got Master Fair Lusamine, and Christmas units...not sure if that are good things.
rosa EBE was a pain but got both done without feature units
hope a mediocre MF come like Leon MF so i can skip... But they still give massive gems
Hope ordinary pokemon MF like Leon, Ash, Ssacynthia and sstred comes 
I will skip happily
I won't even mind cannot clear EBE
Clear EB was never a problem
although sometime it trigger frustration and we do stupid things tho 
Do hope no cute Christmas unit
because cuteness is nemesis
I hope there's no regice or articuno unit coming on Christmas 
Oh xurkitree and blacephalon also looks like festival esque pairs
Im happy with what DeNa did to UBs...not all UBs are alola...only pheromosa and buzzwole are alola
Hope they come with something like Santa Leon
will prevent me from losing gems
Share the UBs love to other regions 
Good tho all alola seem redundant
Yep, thats why im happy with what they done
I would love it if they make it poison typing 

being rock type is also a win, since we dont have any special rock striker
unless dena fuck up and make it a support
Yup im desperately need rock
even better
Never have enough support

also you wrote Hilbert name wrong 

I already got 2 rocks, regirock and diancie ... there's still terrakion and stakataka that may come as my rock fave
is bundle ex+ worth?
yes
will buy it in like 3 month later
oh wow thanks for that i was rushing because i thought it might disappear 😄 thanks for that!
3000 gems tho enough for a seasonal selected scout
every 20days? damn thats a lot of money for candies but I can improve my units lol ive been struggling finishing suepr hard contents 😄
That bundle is the best fit for those who are used to accumulating gems too since u need 20 days to collect all 3k gems
hmm i thought its 1 time 3k then 4k gems for 20days
total of 7k gems with gold candy? am i wrongg on that?
Oh i thought first bundle
personally feel the EX bundle is the highest value since you get more paid gems per unit currency but i’m also not hurting for candy
yep i bought the orb bundles since I need some to see if it will greatly improve my units to clear hard contents..
do we have calculator
for the orb btw?
The orb pack doubles your orb income from the stage
So if you clear the hardest stg 10x it's 1800 orbs a day for 20 days
ayt ayt thank you! 😄
If people weren't so loose and fast with their candies they wouldn't be getting baited by the candy paid bundle.....
Not sure it's that
We acquire a pity faster than two candies
If you have multiple favs of the same role it is understandable you end up needing extra
Nothing wrong with wanting to max your favs
Especially true, now its tech master

I gonna grab the bundle 3 times to cut my tech units candy demand
Or use 2 on techs and 1 on striker
Then back to just basic bundle
Saying people should only candy units with good grids is getting very meta-y 
no prob if your faves are meta...well gloria, lysandre, N and the like already 3/5 anyway so its not like i chase meta 
I think im fine with support candy demand for now especially rainbow ticket = fave support dupe for me
when your fav is spotlight... No need candy bundle
I did select scout for lusamine before this to 3/5 her
...now she is kinda like 11-13/5 move level
2/5 Bea Banner now she 6/5 hope more will come
Hope you can get him, super seasonal scout is rough... got 6 Christmas units in it 
Pity means chances don't matter
Is it gonna be separated... Or 6 in 1.....btw I got 2/5 Hala
So close.... One more copies and Holiday Leon will be a skip
Hleon is hard to use when 1-2/5...i only have fun using him when 3/5. If not, Ghetsis is better
His glacial spear ramming speed help boost his dmg a lot
Yep his 1/5 grid kinda sad...also sometimes you stack tm alot and die before casting it also missing cold snap grid for higher chance of freezing enemies...and missing ramming speed
All of his best stuffs lock behind 3/5
Then you should grab him, his atk stats is very high
I think it's not about lacking type anymore...
I actually like this sync pair......the playstyle is perfect for me
Theres always a desire to have not just sufficient coverage for each type, but a bazooka where you press 2 buttons and the stage is beaten
I pair him with djgloria and they work wonders
I use freeze build on him, doesn't need to pair with hail teammates
I tried out ghetsis EX for MM and my team probably wasnt great but it was a struggle. So i feel a small desire to get a better ice type. ||then I remembered SST Red is my better ice type and i destroyed the stage with that offtype lol||
Cannot wait for ghetsis power boost, now kinda still gauge consuming
By the end of the month, I'll get around 56k gems.... that's good.... this is perfect!
Btw, what power boost does kyurem gets?
Sharp entry 1,MGR 9
He can buff himself pretty well
Oh free move after sync
he still needs at least speed support
Hmm
That sharp entry 1 and ramp up 1 can save a lot of trouble
Oh btw, I have set my limit to 15th of this month
Till then, N will also be released
It's fine, but on the low end of power ups imo
I didn't have a lot of trouble with pre-EX pre-boost ghetsis
Ghetsis is a fave. Not the ideal pair with him, but a fave regardless
So if I can use him, I will
He’s just my best option rn
I guess thats why they did that, he already got strong nuke so EX boost is enough...other power boost is just to help his gauge management and shorten preparation with sharp entry and tm ramp up
More than does the job
This make it interesting, how they gonna improve sycamore...i already think he is great now
One of the thing that i will be thankful if they add synchro healing so i can unlearn recuperation
Also heals team
They could also give him dps tools, since fairy is painfully underrepresented
If they give him vigilance grid as power boost, i can give him sentry entry 2 lucky skill instead
If they give him crit buffing, however...
So that he is tanky from both physical and special damage sources
I wouldn't expect much if Ghetsis only got some qol stuff
Especially given he's getting support ex
Yep thats why i only suggest mid stuffs like vigilance and synchro healing 
I’m entering the unova “Battle unovas best” breakdown again
Why is Rosa stupid tanky
Why can’t my serperior be this tanky
Try ghetsis.... That's your only best hope here
When your only super effective bug damager is burgh
Best I can do is wreck Nate
Either they really want you to pull hilbert or give up
It’s much more vicious than Bertha that’s for sure
The only upside is the seperior does basically no damage
Leaf storm
It’s Wally on steroids
Ghetsis sync only wrecks Nate not Rosa or hilda
Guess it’s the reason why it’s called “Battle unovas best”
It's designed for SS Hilby to super effective everything
Which I’m not pulling
Yep....i think.... you also have N here.. so pair with him if you can
That's why it's annoying
Piercing blows works
But sentry entry x2 no
This is Aaron electric weak
But painful
I'd rather go for decently cheap paid gems and buy selects even for dupes rather than pay more and have the coins
Oh... Its sp atk
but as i said before, not buying anything till we get more content
Also Regular N should’ve had reshiram to begin with
Their color scheme match’s perfectly
His ex is black tho
I doubt myself to beat this forsaken stage
did both, they were quite easy compared to hoenn
Look at it
What did you use for Rosa
Imagine having alder
there's a setup that requires only Burgh 1/5
My honor is more important than gems!
all this info and more just a hop skip and a jump away in the wonderful land of #1009557516369281075
Okay, did very well for this Month
Pulled the two Pairs I wanted
So saving my gems now
Hoping for some good stuff in the next meta
At this point eb don't even tempt me anymore
Just slap ssmorty into everything and you win
I wish I had him
Is it too bad of a deal to EX a pair with 5* power ups only?
Was considering to EX burgh so I have an easier time with the EB
just do CSMM and EX in 2 weeks
Depends on how many u have
EXing burgh shouldnt make the stage much easier aside from the stat boost for him, aoe sync isnt going to do much to the sides since they have tough skin
EXing in two weeks means I won't have it up for EB
EB lasts till the end of the month doesn't it?
huh, shorter than Hoenn
Last round I didn't get any MPR
Not on Skyla or Ingo's TM, not on Skyla's potions
I really hate doing this kind of grind
I had to get few Skyla pots, but I used a different team
finally I don't regret getting Alder
It's the one thing that makes me want to simply go and dump 36.6k for the 300
Just because I hate not being able to beat challenges
there is a clear with ghetsis (ex) skyla (ex) and burgh in #1009557516369281075
idk how rng reliant it is
Skyla used more MPRs there than I got in my last five tries



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