Resource Saving Support (Gem Zen)

[tardy fiber]

march will be half anniv

[naive knoll]

MFs at start of march makes sense too for anni I mean

[broken mulch]

Ending March isn’t how you say it

[naive knoll]

if they do PFs on 3.5 anni than MF mid march

[naive knoll]

Then what?

[broken mulch]

End of March

[naive knoll]

english isn't my main language so my apologies

[tardy fiber]

hope half anniv have more anni pairs like raihan...i can skip if it is only normal pokemons

[naive knoll]

I only pull for fav and broken units

I wont get any fav but broken units lets c

N is a fav but his kit is going to make me skip

[drifting dagger]

Oh ye Usman

[tardy fiber]

also hopefully Dena will rerun annilillie, anniN, annisteven

[naive knoll]

may be a new kind of event

some harder content hopefully

[drifting dagger]

Or a future tease for gen9 and hisui units?

I hope so

[naive knoll]

Oh yeah

gen 9 will take a while

till end of next year

but I think its just about time for hisui

and I hope they dont rush through the hisui stuff

better do it slowly and steadily, the way they handled galar was good

[broken mulch]

My policy is: It can be the most broken pair ever in the game and make my favorites even better. If I hate them and what they look like I ain’t pulling

[naive knoll]

If they do hisui the same way that would b nice

[broken mulch]

I’m looking at YOU INGO

[naive knoll]

I never skip an absolute broken unit

fav wise if its red or cynthia I aint skipping

But i did skip cynthia garchomp and ss cynthia just bcz they r too old now and I aint got enough gems

[broken mulch]

I skipped SST Red

Dude wore such an ugly jacket

[naive knoll]

How could u

[broken mulch]

Yuck

[naive knoll]

His normal outfit was good

EX not so much

[tardy fiber]

i skipped ash, sstred, ssacynthia

[naive knoll]

SST is arguably the best unit in the game

only close competition to him is ss steven

[tardy fiber]

yep he is good, just i chase fave and not meta much

[naive knoll]

Its hard for me to skip meta 🤣

Iris is the first zone setter I m skipping

[tardy fiber]

i gonna save gems for other electric faves...zapdos/raikou/zeraora/tapu koko/thundurus/xurkitree

[naive knoll]

I have all other zone setters, most of them r 1/5 though

[tardy fiber]

the eeveelutions are terrain and weather setters....i wonder if they release umbreon, it can set dark zone like sscyrus

[naive knoll]

its a possibility

but next eevee day is next year

so until then 🤷🏻‍♂️

[tardy fiber]

they said that it will be annually?

[naive knoll]

Only reason I went for ss cyrus is bcz someday in the future single strike urshifu will appear

And i want it to work at its best

[broken mulch]

I didn’t even know there WAS an Eevee day lol

[naive knoll]

They didnt, i just assumed

[tardy fiber]

if its like poma day, it will be monthly

[naive knoll]

Lets c what they do

I wish they made em free

atleast one of em

vaporeon is so good

[tardy fiber]

i already got ssmisty, and she can EX...so i will skip these eeveelutions

[naive knoll]

vaporeon has fake tears and weather on sync she is pretty nuts

But obviously a skip for me as well

[tardy fiber]

they are more appealing if they are 4*...

easier to upgrade move level

[naive knoll]

They r better than a lot of 5 stars

[tardy fiber]

but you are willing to use tech candies on them?

[drifting dagger]

The eevolutions are good

But not needed

[naive knoll]

Nice for new players

[broken mulch]

Eevee day is such a weird banner and event

[naive knoll]

no way

they r fine at 1/5

all thats needed of them they can offer at 1/5

But i wont even go for 1/5

need to save gems

[tardy fiber]

i dont mind, because the event give the rare yellow move coin

[naive knoll]

we r getting 4 of those this month

[tardy fiber]

yep thanks to gauntlet and eevee event

[signal halo]

This will get me dangerously close to the first yellow candy

Ironically, if I finish my support candy first, I won't have a yellow candy target

I don't know if I am in the middle of a mood swing towards the zen, but

I told here before that skipping colress feels like a sin, but the more I think about it, the more I feel like I should just save for the next pokefair

Next pokefair among my faves, I mean

Perhaps I'm meant to break the 100k threshold

[flint sparrow]

i thought colress was a spotlight tho

[signal halo]

He is

[flint sparrow]

thats the only thing stopping me from pulling hi- NICE

[signal halo]

But he's among my 3 most wanted theoretical pairs

[violet nebula]

The chances of getting colress are good in other banners

[flint sparrow]

spotlight means that he'll be added to the genpool after i think- yeah

[violet nebula]

That is how I got the sinnoh E4

[signal halo]

Which makes him the isolated all time PoMa fave

[violet nebula]

All 5/5 to

[flint sparrow]

you should totally save and hopefully get him at another time

[violet nebula]

The chances of that are pretty good

[signal halo]

Since the other theoretical pairs I have along with him don't and won't happen

[flint sparrow]

2 favs in one if you're lucky

shskdj i actually am really happy he has KlingKlang because its one of my favourite Pokemon

[signal halo]

I can say with confidence that Dena won't do them

So yeah, colress is the end all be all fave

[flint sparrow]

lots of people say pull for your favs but yeah i think its better to save- totally understand if u wanna pull for him tho and good luck

[signal halo]

I hate spotlight banners odds, however

I just remembered how annoying it is to do the free 10 pull every month for nothing

My faves likely won't appear for a while

But I, this feels really hard to process

Rational and emotional are on polar opposites on this matter for me

[grand bramble]

I been chasing Alolan Grimsley for almost a year NOW

[cunning swan]

Mine's over 5/5, I'm tired of seeing his face

[grand bramble]

[sleek whale]

Mines been stuck at 1/5 forever

[oak crest]

Mines 2/5, need just 1 more and his full potential unlocked

[grand bramble]

My luck on ticket scout is SUCH a weird one

[oak crest]

The region I have lacking the most is from Alola(not counting the recent spotlight additions)

[grand bramble]

Same

Im still missing masked royal

[oak crest]

My masked royal and kiawe are 0/5

[cunning swan]

I'm still missing Phoebe (and a lot of the newly released genpools)

[grand bramble]

whenever I pulled any ticket scout... its never a good ending

[rotund sleet]

just saw the twitter rally

[oak crest]

If there's anything I don't want to get from the newer genpools... It's probably the Lapras pair... I hate the kit alot

[rotund sleet]

we at 26k now? for the month?

[grand bramble]

So now.. Im saving my regional ticket scout... like Galar, Unova, Kalos and maybe Hoenn.. The others I fully spend

Yes I have every galar spotlight unit at 3/5

[cunning swan]

I think my Allister is still 2/5

I'm just spending on Hoenn and Sinnoh at this point

[oak crest]

Allister and Sonia still 2/5 for mine

[sleek whale]

I only just recently got my allister to 3/5 sonia is 1/5 for me also nessa

[rotund sleet]

i’m missing melony, looker, and courtney

[grand bramble]

I want alolan grimsley now... I can't believe I have Sonia before him.... Grrrr

[rotund sleet]

been relatively lucky for someone who started march 2022

[grand bramble]

wait.....you started this year??

[rotund sleet]

yeah

why?

[grand bramble]

oh nvm... btw.. you missing quite lot of master fair

[rotund sleet]

yeah i don’t pull on units that i don’t like

and most of the MF are lame to me

i only own like 3 MF

iirc

[grand bramble]

Well.. that's good for not spending

||so.. You also skip Ash?? ||

[flint sparrow]

i wish i skipped ash lol

[sleek whale]

Same

[cunning swan]

They'll continue pumping out master fairs on an absurdly high rate. Missing a lot doesn't matter

[flint sparrow]

at this point only get fav MF
battle pass already gives you great f2p mf

[grand bramble]

So.... What do you think... 26k...... is it alright good?

[rotund sleet]

yes

i skipped all 3 anni MF

||which enabled me to comfortably afford the (cooler) halloween units this month ||

[grand bramble]

You got TO BE KIDD-..... oh nvm

[cunning swan]

Eh, in terms of kits, the 3 anni MFs are great but the pokemon, not so much

2 pikachu, very creative

[rotund sleet]

me personally, idgaf about kits

if they’re cool i pull

[grand bramble]

....

It's ASH.. cmon

[cunning swan]

And of course if you don't play for meta (and why should you), no point in pulling the MFs unless fave

[cunning swan]

So?

[grand bramble]

... fine

[cunning swan]

This is gem zen and we encourage pulling for favorites

[grand bramble]

I know..... Ash is my one my biggest fave.... or everyone knows that

If he comes with a sygna suit...

[tardy fiber]

Same 🤝 although ||i did grab scrosa and falliris||

[autumn panther]

I skipped Ash because he is Ash

[vestal leaf]

🤝

If only it was any other ash...

I might've considered

But it's journeys so

[autumn panther]

I would've skipped every single ash

[vestal leaf]

Nah sumo or xy ash would've been cool

Or even og og design

Journeys is literally the bottom of the barrel

that and BW

[chrome nest]

Sad

Bw is my favorite season

[hard solar]

hello! ive got 26ish k crystals atm, new account -
i plan on pulling for both N and Colress - which one is worth prioritising first?

[chrome nest]

Bw season is the main reason why I like unova

[rare swan]

whichever one you like better this thread focuses more on favourite characters rather than power/meta

[hard solar]

ah yeah

[rare swan]

if you'd like a recommendation based more on meta, head to #poma-questions!

[unborn pier]

I’d say N but whoever you like

[hard solar]

i just know colress is a perm

[autumn panther]

colress is a spotlight soooo

[rare swan]

From that perspective, it's probably better to focus on N, yes - especially if they're equal levels of fave to you!

(i pull on spotlights that have my faves )

[hard solar]

i heard colress's model was added to the game and came running

[vestal leaf]

it's one of the lowest from a popularity standpoint

Ofc everyone can enjoy whatever they want, I won't judge

[hard solar]

after 3 years of waiting for crumbs on him

[rare swan]

sounds like he's a pretty big fave!

[autumn panther]

I despise all of them

[rare swan]

we're going to get roughly 26k this month, so you won't have a pity for both but you'll have a healthy balance

[maiden kayak]

raining gems

[hard solar]

yeah - and i dont mind doing what i need to to get both LOL

[unborn pier]

if we get another rally then 29k possibly

[maiden kayak]

imo

[rare swan]

😌 i wish you luck, they both look fun

[maiden kayak]

if u wanna get corless as a big fav just go for 1/5

no dupes

[unborn pier]

you should have over 55k by the time both banners end due to them being after datamine

[maiden kayak]

unless u have copius amount of gems

[hard solar]

yeah ill only get him 1/5

do perms get added to the ticket pool shortly after spotlight

[vestal leaf]

I think it's still better for you to focus N

You might get extremely lucky and pity colress

[hard solar]

or do i need to hold on to my unova tickets for a few months

[maiden kayak]

no such thing as luck here

[vestal leaf]

Or get another fave soon and get spooked by him

[maiden kayak]

its a pity or go home

[unborn pier]

you’ll probably need to hold them for anniversary

[vestal leaf]

Next anni

[hard solar]

ahhh okay im fine with that

[unborn pier]

depends on how long you can resist colress

[chrome nest]

Aqua

[daring citrus]

[chrome nest]

Because genesect and victini are favs but I need 12K more gems till pity

[vestal leaf]

Well if they hard focuses N and gets 3-4-5 copies prepity they could pity colress if it's that much of a fave ...

Over splitting banners

[hard solar]

okay last banner question

[chrome nest]

Rn I’m having a bad mind blow because I don’t know what to choose

[hard solar]

if i get a character early, can i still spark?

[maiden kayak]

skip

i dont suggest sparking

if u get 1/5

[daring citrus]

depends

[vestal leaf]

Depends when you get it

[maiden kayak]

if u have low amount of gems

[hard solar]

ahh

[maiden kayak]

dont bother with dupes

just candy

[unborn pier]

if you’re over 300 on pity points I’d say its fine otherwise candy

[maiden kayak]

no

imo

[unborn pier]

though you also need to decide if another copy is worth three multis

[chrome nest]

Every gems is valuable

[maiden kayak]

<150k gems 1 multi away from spark

150k gems 2 multis

[chrome nest]

Even if it’s 1 gem

[vestal leaf]

1/5 very soon (1/4 of pity or lower) it's a save
1/2 pity? Depends on kit
Past that? Might as well go in

At least that's my policy

[unborn pier]

which is mostly (or entirely) no

[hard solar]

i mean my current plan is to pity N and see how many dupes i can get in the meantime, then pull for colress
and then just save until nate exists

[maiden kayak]

u might think 3 multis away from spark is nothing

but its actually close to 10k gems

its alot if u think about it

[chrome nest]

Update I have victini and genesect In my shield game

[daring citrus]

Nice?

[chrome nest]

But I want to use one of them in pomas

What should I chose

[daring citrus]

How many gems do u have

[chrome nest]

Eh I look at my types

24K

[rare swan]

remember this is the thread for favourites

[daring citrus]

Wtf didnt u has 50k

[unborn pier]

I wouldn’t know for that reason

[chrome nest]

Long story

[rare swan]

so whichever one you like more is the better choice

[chrome nest]

I didn’t yolo I’m not an idiot like before

[daring citrus]

Don't ever depend on yolos.

[tardy fiber]

Tai, i almost 150 sycamore...i gonna make you proud

[tawny cedar]

Should I get kris and Lyra,who i can't guarantee but are super big faves?
Or save for xbold who i can guarantee but is a low tier fave

[chrome nest]

I don’t

[vestal leaf]

Yeah but if you get to 300/400 for a 1/5 10k for a saved candy + 3 multi chances for another saved candy is really nice, especially for roles as stacked as techs

[daring citrus]

No. Of gems?

[chrome nest]

You don’t have them?

[tawny cedar]

The new ones

[chrome nest]

I thought kris and Lyra are perma

[daring citrus]

Still pissed that Kris Lyra & Lucas didnt got new outfits for Eevee Day

[chrome nest]

No

They suck

Don’t

[maiden kayak]

this is ALOT if u only have 1-2 pities

its not easy to recover 3 multis

[vestal leaf]

Sure, but we talking big faves

[tawny cedar]

I'm a johtomaxer

[chrome nest]

You said you gave up

[maiden kayak]

still would not recommend

just candy it

[vestal leaf]

If a unit is a big fave, why not invest a tad extra if you got so deep in its banner

[tawny cedar]

When

[maiden kayak]

lol

[chrome nest]

Liar

[daring citrus]

Can u show me your JohtoMax in the ||flex|| section?

[maiden kayak]

theres no point investing in extra

[chrome nest]

Doing 3rd Anni

[tawny cedar]

Aight gimme a min

[maiden kayak]

when most of the units are functional at 1/5

[daring citrus]

3rd Anni was so skippity skip

[chrome nest]

True

[maiden kayak]

its either u sacrifice gems or meta

of cos opp cost for losing gems is higher than meta

[chrome nest]

I can ungrid my Cyrus and palkia and bear dragon weak

You’ll see

(Dragon weak when)

[maiden kayak]

your first optimal satisfaction gets from first copy

2nd and 3rd dupe your satisfaction goes down compared to first copy

[vestal leaf]

Eh, personally not really

[maiden kayak]

u rolling rng for a fcking dupe

[chrome nest]

I’m gonna question myself rn

[maiden kayak]

which absolutely makes no sense

[chrome nest]

Because my plan is on my bday I would pull a sync pair and hope to be lucky but remember luck is an illusion

[maiden kayak]

lets agree to disagree

[chrome nest]

Eh maybe I’ll pull a bp pair

[hard solar]

hmm i am the type of guy to go for completely useless dupes in other games of my favourites LOL
having dupes of a favourite character, even if theyre useless is fun to me

[maiden kayak]

i think my way works and better for long run saving

[daring citrus]

Oh also Aqua, did you had any changes to your favourite list?

[rare swan]

LOVE this energy!

[maiden kayak]

no change but i did add paldea units

[chrome nest]

Vantner on his way speed running level 150 every legendary sync pair

[vestal leaf]

If you like a unit that much you'd go to pity for 1/5 I don't personally find a reason not to invest 2-3 multis more after 1/5 at 300-330/400 to save a candy for another fave that I'll get more early in the banner and will need 2 candies instead because I won't bother rolling 2/3 of a pity for copies

[tawny cedar]

Vantner can probably obliterate all content in the game

[vestal leaf]

It's a matter of perspective imo, but ofc anyone can save how they want

[maiden kayak]

this is true if u have more than 3-4 pities

by then 3 multis are miniscule

[vestal leaf]

Why tho

[chrome nest]

Should I make a wheel of Names to determine my fate on which mythical I’m gonna ||Pull||

[hard solar]

alright current plan is to grab both, and then sink everything else into colress dupes -> N dupes

[chrome nest]

Or just bang my head suffering

[rare swan]

pull on the one you like the most

[hard solar]

theyre both great

[chrome nest]

Victini is cute and genesect is cool

[vestal leaf]

Colress is gen pool so id definitely prioritize N

[tawny cedar]

Alright I'm gonna difficulty skip Lyra and kris eevee alt so i can guarantee xbold

[vestal leaf]

If you miss N who knows when he'll rerun

[tawny cedar]

They will rerun right

[maiden kayak]

they will rerun anyways

pokefair

[vestal leaf]

Colress could spook you at any point from November onward

[maiden kayak]

MFs are much rarer

[hard solar]

at this point i can 100% spark both atleast so its just a matter of dupes

[vestal leaf]

Yeah but then again some fairs don't

Very often

[chrome nest]

By rarer you mean once every 2 years

[maiden kayak]

yea

[vestal leaf]

Look at rahian, SS Gio, the Sinnoh VA duo

[rare swan]

i have a better idea

save for the Kalos arc

[maiden kayak]

suspecting dec is mf

[rare swan]

[vestal leaf]

They're only in selects

[chrome nest]

Origin Palkia and Dialga

[vestal leaf]

And it's almost been one year

[compact pasture]

Could be November too

[chrome nest]

Very suspicious that palkia got a bit of attention

By attention I mean this

So they’re telling me there’s a chance

We’re getting another palkia sync pair

In that case scrap the Birthday pull plan I need to save for palkia alt

[compact pasture]

Wait, Sync Move animation changes?

[tardy fiber]

15/49 now

[chrome nest]

I’m speechless

When origin Palkia comes you bet I’ll 5/5 it immediately

[tardy fiber]

Not sure what they changed, the one they mentioned Giovanni...i noticed mega mewtwo y is floating a bit higher

[chrome nest]

Mewtwos psychic attack now has its arm just ✊ ✊ instead of 👏

I noticed it in my dual strike with sssteven

[tardy fiber]

1 of hoopa animation changes as well iirc, he now punch

[chrome nest]

Palkia spacial rend know looks like bdsp spacial rend

It bends forward instead of roaring

Kyurem glaciate now it roars when it attacks

[tardy fiber]

Neat

I didn't notice what changes with evelyn and cobalion

[chrome nest]

Me too

Ho-oh sacred fire now roars

[thorny pelican]

And...

This helps me save resources...

how?

[grand bramble]

[tardy fiber]

It made legendary adventures units and bp units cooler

They are free

And doesn't cost gems

[lean mango]

Doesn't Colress get added until after his banner ends? Colress' banner doesn't end till Nov

[lean mango]

Sycamore lfg

[tardy fiber]

Kinda excited that after this Unova VA shenanigans, we will get sycamore on the next VA

[lean mango]

2x sync wooooo

I wonder how they'll do his expansion

[warm flint]

any type of crit buff is ggs honestly

[tardy fiber]

Kinda hope that one of his power boost grid will be synchro healing so that i can unlearn my recuperation

Recuperation only heal self

Heal teammates would be neat

[lean mango]

Ye his only way of healing is his TM with regen

[tardy fiber]

Or fairy zone sync so he can be fairy ssacynthia

[lean mango]

Fairy zone ooo

didn't think that

[warm flint]

got my pity back 🙏

[lofty relic]

congratz!

[drifting dagger]

Not really

With the loads of spotlights we have, the chance is very low to get a particular spotlight

Which is why for veterans, if it's someone you really love, getting spotlights is fine

[timber wren]

and if you have access to paid gems, the new tier scouts can be considered a decent value for a big fave (7.5k paid). that or waiting 2-3 months for them to enter the select scout pool for 3k paid

[drifting dagger]

Yup

[unborn pier]

I’m lucky to get two other Courtney copies but I still don’t have Looker

[drifting dagger]

Colress is on the list of my most wanteds, and was one of the peeps I voted for in this year survey, and jesus...

I'm legit so torn between pulling or not

Spotlights being in general pool doesn't mean you will get them soon, since it might take actual years, like...

I'm a day 1 player, and I only got my first sceptile and midnight lycanrock this year, AND...

I still don't have typhlosion

So that's why I'm so torn between pulling or not

[ashen thunder]

I'd rather use a spark in a future MF/PF for colress than roll in spotlight rate up

[unborn pier]

That’s still situational even

You could get them too early or have to pity the featured

[livid rover]

im always a spotlight pull enthusiast tbh cuz. I may have gotten Looker immediately on SSA Cynthia's banner but I still don't have a single Lusamine

[tardy fiber]

Spotlight fave is in a rough spot for me but as i have access to a small amount of paid gems...i might pick the paid select scout route after a few months and they got added in it

Cheaper than 7.5k also give me some ample time to try my luck of getting the unit when pulling other fave banners

And usually there's no EBE associated with spotlights other than kanto VA ebe

[warm flint]

off topic but dang candy coins have been amazing lately

[sturdy flower]

spotlight fave = choose triple 1.5% banner with decently fun stuff and go till pity for me

unless i get them before such a banner appears somewhere else

the triple white day banner is probably one of the best for that (for me)

[lime hill]

I'm shocked you haven't pulled all the old pairs until recently, but if you want Colress that much, I'd say go for him.

[drifting dagger]

I pulled Courtney, Cynthia and Red

3 pities

And by then, full zen mode

[lime hill]

It took me over a year and a half to pull May, and I remember pulling for Lillie, Gladion, and Lusamine when they came out

I had waited for those 3 since day 1, too

[drifting dagger]

Oof

[sturdy flower]

I'm going to zen and hope Hugh comes sooner than later

[lime hill]

Also this

[sturdy flower]

he wants 5/5 for maximum gamble anyways

[sturdy flower]

grats, breached 100k few days ago

[lime hill]

That's awesome. Keep it up

[lime hill]

laughs in candies

[sturdy flower]

i do have 6 striker candies but saving them in case we get a fun striker turning into tech at 3/5 that gets some utility

[lime hill]

I think I have 4, but I have so many strikers to put them in that I don't know who to give them to

[tardy fiber]

Im cutting it close, i finally can claim all the good stuff from fall event rerun exchange shop next reset...right before unova VA starts

[cunning swan]

I've grabbed all the things I want from the fall events and now I'm just grinding cyrus's event for power ups lol

[tardy fiber]

I still need 2 more codexes

[deft glen]

how many candy coins are we getting without pulling on any banner?

I assume we can get all the 13 support candy coins cuz there are no support units this month, is this right?

[sturdy flower]

these never take banners into consideration

[deft glen]

oh, thanks. I wasn't sure before

[sturdy flower]

they do include bp rewards iirc

[broken mulch]

I got all the event rewards this reset haha. Just had the Sinnoh VA part 1 left

I think I finished both Halloween yesterday?

[tardy fiber]

I can afford if its 18.99 usd

[spare thorn]

They're putting a high price point on candies

[tardy fiber]

I already checked the usd to myr rate

[spare thorn]

3k with sync orbs about 6x cheaper than 7k with a candy

Also you have to complete the 20 days before you can buy again

[tardy fiber]

Yep the basic bundle price is kinda a steal

Can we buy multiple bundles?

Like basic + bp pass

[spare thorn]

I guess so

Over 20 days

[tardy fiber]

Still cheaper than coin bundle if i buy the other two combined...and get 4.5k for 20 days

[spare thorn]

Doesn't really help if you need gems for a banner but otherwise yeah

Bp pass seems kinda bad in comparison

[tardy fiber]

But can almost clear 10k bp in 2 months

[spare thorn]

Main appeal of BP is candy coins anyway lol

[tardy fiber]

Rainbow voucher

[vernal glade]

The yellow coins are the rarest to get.

[spare thorn]

But if you get a single of each you can just use the candies to level up

Hard pass for me at the moment anyway

Got a lot of paids left from each pass

Candy is not worth that to me rn

[tardy fiber]

I can afford a coin bundle...but for the next one after cleared 20 days i might get the basic instead

[spare thorn]

Sync bundle seems the value one for gems

Candy bundle is a candy

Bp pass seems kinda useless to me for the price point but each to their own

Wonder if we're gonna see select costs go up

It makes spotlight tier more enticing I guess

[tardy fiber]

I guess i will grab coin bundle later...that chunky 7k gems in 20 days might help

And that yellow coin can help reduce the gap of tech coin demand i need currently

Oops tech candy

Like this month also 2 techs 1 striker

Striker not a prob, even in MF banner they give 3 striker 2 tech 1 support coin in 5 multis

[sturdy flower]

3 dollar to do dailies for a month...?

[tardy fiber]

I kinda did regret using my yellow candy on striker pair before this...i underestimated monthly income of striker coins

[fallen path]

Oh interesting, they’re one time payment

[fallen path]

I haven’t used my yellow coin yet

[tardy fiber]

Probably 3k can be used for 30 days of daily discount pull

I kinda hate single pull, i only do it when filling pity points

Like 396/400

[fallen path]

Yeah

[tardy fiber]

Thats a good move by dena...well compared from before...1500 gems but only 500 of it is paid gems

Paid gems and free gems are not equal in value especially when we can buy selects using paid gems but not with free gems

[drifting dagger]

@tardy fiber 20 DOLLARS

WE WON

3 DOLLARS FOR 3K PAID!??!!?

[tardy fiber]

I still need to wait for official price on my currency ...but from google currency rate, the coin bundle is affordable for me

[drifting dagger]

https://twitter.com/absolutelypm/status/1586387863142137856?t=vk-45Hzx_b4KmbgNyJ1X3Q&s=19

👁️‍🗨️ Absol-utely 🔍 (2.26.0!!!) (@absolutelypm)

This is the selling price (USD only)
In sequential order from top to bottom

Twitter · Oct 29, 2022, 4:01 PM

[vernal glade]

Best deal ever I supposed?

[tardy fiber]

I wonder if we can buy multiple bundles at once

[lunar topaz]

I’ve only focused favs myself as well and it’s made me very happy with the game

[tardy fiber]

3k paid for 3 usd is kinda a steal as well

Also as they are timegated

Maybe its good to buy multiple at once

Multiple different bundles

[vernal glade]

Eh, I’m a F2P player. Besides, I can still get yellow coins outside from those deals.

[tardy fiber]

Current move candies needed:
Strikers: 6
Techs: 6
Supports: 6

If November faves all achieved:
Strikers: 8
Techs: 10
Supports: 6

Maybe i will grab 1 coin bundle

To make 2 techs

[spare thorn]

As ever, it's only value if you actually have a use for the gems

[drifting dagger]

Yeah

I'm legit considering getting it for colress

[steel gazelle]

Holy shit if those prices are true

[drifting dagger]

They are

[steel gazelle]

Might be a bit more for euro currency but still

ngl it's really attractive

[tardy fiber]

I guess what we discussed was true, can just buy the basic bundle everytime its available if lack with money....not like master fair deals appear every month, this at least available every 20 days

So will be able to get 9k paid in 2 months

With basic

[spare thorn]

Are you likely to need about 4.5k a month

Dena doesn't even put a select up every month

[tardy fiber]

Well its good to have for preparation...when urgent need appears, you willing to spend for this price?

I rather buy basic for few months ahead

Then buying this pic

Because its timegated 20 days

[steel gazelle]

People might use it for dailies

[spare thorn]

Seems like buying for buying sake

[reef river]

Ok thats... kind of stupidly good

At least the 3 dollar one is

[spare thorn]

You will always have 20 days notice if a select appears

[reef river]

The 19 dollar one is decent

[drifting dagger]

Yeye

[tardy fiber]

If its like last January with 2 5k paid select...but basic only give 3k

[drifting dagger]

Spotlight select is just 3k?

Not tiered

[reef river]

Or 2k if its a type spotlight

[spare thorn]

Sure but that's not buying 4.5k a month

[steel gazelle]

7k + 1 candy is really good too

[reef river]

Theres a poison type spotlight select near the end of november right?

Looker should be on that right?

[spare thorn]

Not necessarily

[reef river]

Itd be very dumb if he wasnt

[tardy fiber]

4.5k a month is good, so november get 4.5k, december got another 4.5k...january got two 5k select like last January...so you have enough paid gems...if you start to buy the basic bundle when got January dev letter, your paid gems wont be enough due to timegated

[uneven pewter]

Well

Arguably october was an easy skip month

Aside from wally none of the new pairs were big game changers

Wally is only a big game changer at 5/5

And that’s solely because fairy is a very scarce damage type for whatever reason

[ashen thunder]

Firis tho

[uneven pewter]

Everyone else is just nice to have

[uneven pewter]

Ss Giovanni does it better

[reef river]

This feels similar to a subscription

[uneven pewter]

Plus allister is free

[reef river]

The bundle deals

[tardy fiber]

Like battle pass

[ashen thunder]

But for fairy as well

[reef river]

20 days of dripfed gems that you pay for

[ashen thunder]

Every other limited option does better

It doesnt have to be wally

Just like firis

[uneven pewter]

I mean I plan to nab her from a selector

[ashen thunder]

Also my beloved 0/5 allister

[uneven pewter]

Just because naganadel

[spare thorn]

If Looker/Sonia is the select banner image then he's in

Otherwise who knows

[lime hill]

However, as far as I can remember, this is the most value we’ve gotten from a gems bundle

[spare thorn]

The flip side is how does dena plan to make people spend these gems

[lime hill]

3000 gems for $3.00 USD is a better deal than even the champion stadium bundle

[vernal glade]

I’m nabbing her in a year or two.

[reef river]

The idea is since you only get 200 per day

Is that you waste them on dailies

[tardy fiber]

Champion and story bundle are still the best probably

[uneven pewter]

Wait

[spare thorn]

Don't think that's the overall idea

[uneven pewter]

Is this live yet

[spare thorn]

Monday

[uneven pewter]

Because I don’t see this bundle

[lime hill]

Don’t think so

[uneven pewter]

Ah okay

[reef river]

Imagine if absol jebaited us

[spare thorn]

Lol

[reef river]

And theyre twice the price

[tardy fiber]

It starts on 31st iirc...its in in-game letter

[uneven pewter]

This seems like a mistake on denas part as that’s the most value centric bundle on the planet

[spare thorn]

I'm sure there's a monetization strategy

[reef river]

Probably more regular select scouts of older units

[spare thorn]

Already have 7.5k tiers

Selects probably don't cut it

[uneven pewter]

Obviously it’s to target value oriented customers that care about value sensitivity

[reef river]

We have a lot of seasonals and pokefairs backed up that are hard to rerun

[lime hill]

That does make me wonder how many people will start buying only that specific bundle

[uneven pewter]

Aka turning f2pers and penetrating resistance to make them payers

[spare thorn]

Even then you can't really spend 4.5k a month rn

[uneven pewter]

Statistically it’s genius

[lime hill]

Like a gateway deal

[reef river]

Thing is this targets my poor brain impulses and ill probably spend a decent amount on dailies

[spare thorn]

For that reason I emphasize, these are only value if you have a use for paid gems

[uneven pewter]

That’s what the “welcome ash” bundles were

[spare thorn]

Dailies are not a use

[uneven pewter]

The biggest bait

[spare thorn]

Ya

[uneven pewter]

Second only to paid steps

On the step up banners for seasonals

[spare thorn]

Don't feel compelled to buy these and just spam the "free" daily

Because it's value

[uneven pewter]

What this is telling me

They are priming to make selectors more frequent

Since selectors are “profitable”

[spare thorn]

Probably more creative selects

[tardy fiber]

I just gonna buy to prepare for future needs, like sometimes i use paid gems if my fave banner almost expires

[spare thorn]

Gen pool selects aren't that great these days

[uneven pewter]

Meanwhile premier banners usually only have so many players that will buy into the fomo

[uneven pewter]

They’ve also decreased recently

[spare thorn]

Fair selects, more tier options would be my guess

Maybe the mooted 10k MF select

[uneven pewter]

Notice there’s more of those “element” specific banners

[spare thorn]

Some kind of paid tier banner for MFs wouldn't shock me

[uneven pewter]

Just saying

[spare thorn]

That would be a money spinner

[uneven pewter]

You know the leon master fair buff is coming now

[tardy fiber]

Gauntlet weakness select is good, only cost 2k

[uneven pewter]

With the 5/5 grids

[tardy fiber]

But there's no unit i want now, before this i did select may

[spare thorn]

Yeah I got a Sonia the last time Tornadus was in gauntlet for 2k

[uneven pewter]

For some of those gen pool units

That are very good but elusive

It’s great value

[spare thorn]

They could also lock a MF combined banner behind paid gems only

Would get a kicking for it but it's plausible

[fallen path]

I’m curious if they gonna increase the price of select scouts..

[spare thorn]

I doubt it somewhat

[maiden kayak]

i doubt

[tardy fiber]

Its their plan, because they keep releasing new spotlights lately...and later they want us to do select for them

[spare thorn]

Gen pool selects aren't that great

Fairs are already 5k

[maiden kayak]

dena strategy has always been f2p to paid player

rather than capitalising lov of existing paid player

[spare thorn]

Something like a 15k total tiered MF banner

The ultimate hustle

[tardy fiber]

Gordie Melony this month, and Colress Hugh next month...dena ramping up new spotlights

[spare thorn]

Well it's in context of just 9 spotlights so far this year

[tardy fiber]

So that they can rope us to buy general pool select

[lime hill]

I bet DeNA also makes some the best offers the cheapest so that parents and minors are more likely to spend a little rather than none at all

[maiden kayak]

which doesnt really increase avg purchase price

sweetening the deal is little bit diff

but they are definitely focusing more on customer conversion

[tardy fiber]

Well they did tweak gem limit purchases for minors recently

[maiden kayak]

i mean look at the candy per 20 days

that easily can convert some players to paying already

[lime hill]

Are they omni candy coins?

[maiden kayak]

yes

the yellow ones

[lime hill]

I still can’t see myself buying that bundle

[fallen path]

Yeah that bundle a little much for my budget

[maiden kayak]

how much is it

[fallen path]

The 3k paid gems one sure that’s easy lol

[maiden kayak]

i forgot

[lime hill]

If I ever spend money, it’ll be for gems only

[tardy fiber]

18.99 usd

Coin bundle

[fallen path]

That’s like $27 in my currency

[maiden kayak]

what do u get

[maiden kayak]

sgd?

[tardy fiber]

Coin and 7k paid

[timber wren]

7k paid and a candy

[maiden kayak]

basically

[fallen path]

CDN. I pulled that number but maybe a lil less than that

[maiden kayak]

2 selects and 1 dupe

[timber wren]

the 3k paid for $3usd is equivalent to the welcome ash deal ($1 for 1k paid), which was the highest value deal we’ve ever received

[maiden kayak]

so i count as 3 selects + 1 k gems

[tardy fiber]

I probably just gonna buy coin once and then just basic

[maiden kayak]

i just take it as 10k paid gems for 18.99

[fallen path]

If you’re gonna get the coin one you definitely have to use it lol

[tardy fiber]

That wont be much burden

[timber wren]

so theyre making all of the gem deals much higher value than previously

[maiden kayak]

is it anni rate or nay?

[timber wren]

it blows anni deals out of the water

[spare thorn]

It's 10k paid for like 23 dollars

[maiden kayak]

oh so its better ?

[spare thorn]

If you got both good bundles

BP bundle is pretty bad

[timber wren]

i haven’t input them in the spreadsheet yet (i’ll wait till its live)

but it seems theyre upping the value of these deals across the board

[lime hill]

I’ve wanted to buy the champion stadium bundle, but I’ve also had a hard time compelling myself to spend so much for gems I may not spend all of in one year. If I ever spend now, that’ll be what I buy

[timber wren]

the event gem specials got marginally better

[maiden kayak]

oh

[fallen path]

So it’s better than the story/champ bundle

[maiden kayak]

lower priced? or higher gems?

[timber wren]

yes

[drifting dagger]

Ok was thinking of something

[fallen path]

Jeez

[timber wren]

higher gems per unit currency

[maiden kayak]

thats considering 3 selects and 1k gems?

[fallen path]

And it’s repeatable with a cooldown

[drifting dagger]

Prices will be the same or different for countries that got the price stuff?

[fallen path]

Idk mate I’ll let others do the math lol

[drifting dagger]

Since those are new

[fallen path]

Too much OT at work lately lol

[maiden kayak]

i still think champion bundle is better than the coin bundle for sure

altho slightly

[lime hill]

How much is stadium bundle?

[drifting dagger]

23?

[fallen path]

Different countries might have digital sales tax, I know I do

So it’s not just the amount listed in the game

[lime hill]

I don’t think my country does it, but I haven’t checked

[fallen path]

And I believe EU might have tax included in the price

[oak crest]

so... the coin candy bundle costs around the same as story bundle? dam I might actually consider buying it when I run out of paid from pulling selects

[timber wren]

check #1010215980175208468

[tardy fiber]

Oh right i want to ask US people here, does the story bundle cost near 18.98 usd?

Because mine in myr

[timber wren]

$21.99

[tardy fiber]

Oh neat

So the coin bundle is 18.99

[timber wren]

for 13k paid

[tardy fiber]

So it will be cheaper

[fallen path]

That amount plus whatever tax there is based on state lol

[timber wren]

vs $19 for 7k paid

plus the candy

[uneven pewter]

So wait

What is in the candy bundle

[tardy fiber]

Yep i already got the story bundle before...i just want to check the new price

[timber wren]

7k paid and a candy

[uneven pewter]

Hold on i need to read up on this

[tardy fiber]

After these apple stuff

[uneven pewter]

Just one?

[timber wren]

takes 20 days to get it all

20 yellow coins

[uneven pewter]

Still pretty good value

[fallen path]

20 candy coins so yeah just 1 yellow candy

[uneven pewter]

Interesting

Given the 5/5 push now

I figured we’d be having higher candy income

[tardy fiber]

So the coin bundle will be lower than myr 104.90 (story bundle) value for me currently

[timber wren]

thats not unexpected since you also get the value of the candy

[tardy fiber]

Nice so its in my budget...but i might only buy it twice...and just buy the basic going onwards

[tawny cedar]

Oh colress is spotlight

[tardy fiber]

So 40 days of coin bundle

[tawny cedar]

Free klingklang

[grim plover]

The first bundle is so Good im afraid im now able to afford gems 😂

But dena is still releasing 5/5 grids so I will only buy gems for my absolute favs

[tardy fiber]

DeNa plan is working, we are seeing more becoming dolphins

[fallen path]

Eh I’m spending the money anyways lol

[tardy fiber]

Good move by DeNa

[slow hare]

Honestly it is a good move

[fallen path]

Bad financial move by us

[slow hare]

I've always said that I'd pay like $3-5 for a select, better than $30

Go figure i got my wish unless they increase select prices lol

[tardy fiber]

Even if buying basic, we can get 9k paid gems in 2 months...its good

[fallen path]

Overgro Wish

[slow hare]

It would be really annoying if they get rid of 3k selects and only do 5k now tho

[fallen path]

Don’t do this, don’t give me despair

[oak crest]

[tardy fiber]

Hope they remove 5k select, I don't appreciate x25 pull with non boosted featured unit rate

[slow hare]

That being said the entire value conversion rate of gems to dollars is now totally shifted

[rotund sleet]

with the new deals, they seem good from what i’ve heard, but the number of things that are worth spending paid gems on are so severely limited, it’s almost negligible

like selects realistically show up 2-3 times a year

[slow hare]

It used to be ~100gems/$1, now it's ~1000gems/$1 (USD)

[slow hare]

Totally agree wo$$

[fallen path]

So you can hoard till they show up. And it’s usually more than one at a time

[tardy fiber]

It will still be good for me, sometimes i consider paid gems as my emergency reserve fund like i only lacking 3k gems before the banner expires

[fallen path]

Last time it was a 3k and a 5k

[maiden kayak]

wtf

[slow hare]

But is a 5k select worth paid gems.... I'll need to reflect but I think the answer for me might still be no

[maiden kayak]

1st deal is so worth it

[rotund sleet]

if it’s a limited time deal, sure i guess, but i personally need to see if dena are going to pump out more actual uses for paid gems

[maiden kayak]

2.99 for freakin 3k paid gems

thats insane

[oak crest]

[fallen path]

Unlike free gems which you can hoard..ideally you use the paid ones lol

[oak crest]

wow

[slow hare]

GOOD uses, not 10k tier scouts and 5k selects

[oak crest]

that is really tempting ppl to whale for sure

[rotund sleet]

implied

[oak crest]

[unborn pier]

the 1st deal is so good

[fallen path]

I mean $3 a month isn’t exactly whaling

That’s like half a Starbucks

[slow hare]

$4.50 a month USD lol

20 days

[tardy fiber]

4.5 usd because its 20 days

[oak crest]

dammm

[fallen path]

Okay that’s one Starbucks I forgot my currency lol

[maiden kayak]

and also its recurring rate after 20 days is finished

which sounds absolutely insane to me

[slow hare]

One bubble tea

[oak crest]

its actually worth af

[maiden kayak]

for a select

[slow hare]

[maiden kayak]

its worth it

[rotund sleet]

no word of whaling or not whaling was spoken, the deals are objectively good, i’m just sceptical on how they’re going to handle the uses for paids from here on out

[oak crest]

since u get just enough for 1 select

[maiden kayak]

i rather have select than drink bubble tea

that shit is unhealthy

[oak crest]

i dont even drink bubba

[slow hare]

Gambling is unhealthy

But you do dailies

[grim plover]

Inb4 they increase the daily pull gems

[maiden kayak]

bubble tea is sugary tho

[slow hare]

[fallen path]

hides bbt I’m currently drinking from aqua

[maiden kayak]

best h2o brand

[tardy fiber]

Select scouts are not gambling

Can select the unit

[oak crest]

if you get anything extra from the multi its a "bonus"

[fallen path]

Eh it’s more expense than gambling. Just make sure you can afford obviously

[unborn pier]

Any selects this month btw?

[rotund sleet]

no lmao

that’s the issue

[slow hare]

Anyways I agree one select scout is preferable to one bubble tea lol

[tardy fiber]

We got a couple last January...as it is timegated might as well buy early to prepare

[slow hare]

For me anyways xD

[unborn pier]

I’m not going to count the Unova genpool ones

[maiden kayak]

the deals are so dope that im throwing away anni deals for good

[fallen path]

Mango bbt in shambles

But yes I will agree

[slow hare]

Gen pool select doesn't count yes

[rotund sleet]

yeah, when people say select scout, almost always referring to limited selects

[oak crest]

(unless they come up with an even more insane deal on future anni)

[slow hare]

I moved away from the local bubble tea places so now my bbt is too expensive and I can't even afford it lol

[maiden kayak]

bbt here cost 5-7 bucks

its insane

[rotund sleet]

bbt is a gentrified ripoff here

[maiden kayak]

just like starbucks

[oak crest]

never liked bbt since the "tea" taste turns me off

[tardy fiber]

Thats 40 days of basic bundle

[rotund sleet]

well liking tea is a pretty large prerequisite

[maiden kayak]

exactly

[slow hare]

I was saying this. There's no reason to buy gems any other method than this paid daily gem thing

[fallen path]

In all the Hoopa, when are these bundles being released again? Nov 1?

[maiden kayak]

yes

[fallen path]

Noice

[slow hare]

Noice in rancers bubble tea

[round mason]

🤔

[slow hare]

Noted 🗒️

[crimson nebula]

im@happy that i no longer have to spend a fortune on tiereds but rather to stack up gems with 3 dollars a month

[rotund sleet]

are these one time deals?

i thought they were

[crimson nebula]

each 20 days

[rotund sleet]

i see

[unborn pier]

refresh after the logins yeah

$3 selects is actually insane

[slow hare]

I do feel like I wasted money on that ash bundle now but oh well

[fallen path]

So it’s like $9 a month in my currency if I keep buying every 20 days

[rotund sleet]

im very sceptical, i feel like they’re going to raise the required paid gems for stuff going forward

[crimson nebula]

at least for me its quite affordable to put 21 dollars a month if i also buy the candy ones for a good amount of gems

[slow hare]

Sad but probably true

[crimson nebula]

although i will only get the 18 dollar one occasionally

[unborn pier]

Probably true but if they turn more people into buyers that’s a huge plus

[crimson nebula]

i mean still its crazy to have 3k paid this cheap, the increase has to be abornmal for it to become unfair

[tardy fiber]

Same i also gonna purchase coin bundle once just to make another tech fave 3/5...then i just only gonna buying basic

[maiden kayak]

the catch is u have to log in everyday

[unborn pier]

Oh wait wrong reply but I don’t think they’ll increase selects costs

[maiden kayak]

which is no problem for long time players anyways

[tardy fiber]

Thats easy, i always login

[crimson nebula]

i always login for 10 minutes and leave

[tardy fiber]

I only miss doing daily villa co-op

[maiden kayak]

but im guessing they really want ppl to log in often so to enter gacha page to tempt spending

[rotund sleet]

the fact that it is this cheap is what makes it suspicious to me

but i hope i’m wrong

[tardy fiber]

They just want to help Japanese people...iirc they are the one that have the most price increase

[rotund sleet]

we’ll see what they do to select prices in due time

[tardy fiber]

Mine only 28% something

[crimson nebula]

oh yeah gotta factor in other places got a price increase

[maiden kayak]

so technically

[fallen path]

If I get apple gift card deals which I do every now and then that cost is lowered too

[maiden kayak]

1 month u get around 3k + 1/2k depending on the month

[grim plover]

I think its because of the 5/5 grids complains.

[rotund sleet]

apologems

[slow hare]

Paid gems is not a bandaid for 5/5

Sadly it's just predatory

[grim plover]

Ye

[slow hare]

Like hey we know we increased the requirements but why don't you just pay us to make up for it

I hope they still increase the monthly gem and candy coin counts

[lime hill]

They might, but I wouldn’t expect them to by much since they will want to make the coin bundle more appealing

I can see them increasing the number of coins from subsequent pulls on spotlights

[slow hare]

Sigh

[fallen path]

Gacha games are predatory by nature so yeah

[crimson nebula]

very much

[lime hill]

And I’m sure DeNA would have become this aggressive a long time ago if people only bought the best offers

[fallen path]

People like deals, it’s human nature lol

[drifting dagger]

Yeah lmao

Those deals are legit amazing

[drifting dagger]

Nah, most likely for the price increase thanks to apple

Feedback for the 5/5 stuff might be implemented later

[vernal glade]

5/5 is optional tho.

[mild spindle]

It's not distributed to you all at once. So, it's obviously going to trap people who spend on dailies or people who used them for a scout, who then need an immediate amount of gems for whatever they want at that moment. (Selects/fave/etc)

[spare thorn]

You will have 20 days notice usually though

[mild spindle]

This is a $526.49 (before taxes) annual subscription if you use all 3 bundles continuously.

[spare thorn]

If you have that much to burn on poma you either have cash to burn anyway or need help lol

[fallen path]

Or a Pokémon masters YouTuber lol

[spare thorn]

I guess lol

I just fall back to the value is horrible if you have nothing to use the gems on

So while we talk up the value, just the value is not a reason alone to buy gems

[mild spindle]

Let's do 3 months, since that's nearly 60 days:

$92.91 = 34,500 + 3 + 3600 (additional) [actual 7200 gained over 60 days total]
3600 Extra equates to about 3x each from tier rewards

Okay, it's double from the daily battle.

So 60 becomes 120 daily.

[spare thorn]

That one is pretty bad tbh

[fallen path]

Yeah not really worth

[spare thorn]

Wouldn't the gems be higher

Like 34,500

[mild spindle]

Yeah. Forgot to triple that value.

[spare thorn]

It's not great still

Though bp bundle is tanking it

[uncut comet]

I'm very surprised about that prices, do anyone knows how were they discovered?

[mild spindle]

The 3600 equates to 3x additional coins of each type:
Since you get 1 per ~1000 .

[spare thorn]

It's in the datamine somewhere

Absol got it

[uncut comet]

They should be server side I'm guessing some api that has been published today

[spare thorn]

It's also a bunch of scout tickets

[mild spindle]

Pretty sure absol has methods for looking at server side only things.

[uncut comet]

Yes but they have to be published, maybe they did it earlier since tomorrow will be sunday

(in Japan)

[mild spindle]

Yeah, but it goes live in every region at the same time.
But I mean, we are only ~33 hours away from it.

This is expected on <t:1667196000:F>? or was it coming at tonight's reset?

[spare thorn]

Monday

[uncut comet]

Sunday night in us, Monday in the other regions

[spare thorn]

Only one timezone in the US too

Its a very weird choice

[mild spindle]

I used the timestamp so it would reflect your local times.

[spare thorn]

Let's pick a timezone that confuses 95% of English speakers

[uncut comet]

It works in Japan so it's good 🙂

[lunar topaz]

PST

Because it’s not real

[mild spindle]

DST is ending here (USA) soon, on November 6th.

[lunar topaz]

For what is that for?

[uncut comet]

The reset is at 2pm in japan

[mild spindle]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgP7Ti1VIAAQzWF?format=png&name=medium

[fallen path]

EST is the only sane timezone in this continent

[lunar topaz]

So true

[fallen path]

I was waiting all month to change clocks and it’s not even this month lol. Welcome back 1 am resets!

[timber wren]

im so ready for 12am datamines again

[lunar topaz]

Same

[uncut comet]

What about moving to Japan?

[lunar topaz]

With all the merch they get I should

[fallen path]

One day I’ll visit Japan

[spare thorn]

Oh yeah reset moves back to 6am

[weary spire]

[uncut comet]

Greece?

[spare thorn]

Uk

[weary spire]

so... it's just better than the bundles

the story & champ bundles I mean

I mean, right?

[spare thorn]

Yeah

Has optionality

[weary spire]

I lowkey regret buying the story & champ bundle ngl

I don't spend paid gems enough

I only rushed in buying them recently bc of stuff surrounding potential price changes which I later realised wouldn't affect me, anyway

I didn't need a chunk of paid gems in my balance rn, which makes it feel like I wasted some money

[spare thorn]

I'm fine with it, ive got a bank left for NY/seasonal selects

Probably won't do much paid after that at this point

[weary spire]

I mean true, my thing is just that I have so few units I actually want that I end up skipping the overwhelming majority of those. Only ever done a select once so far, and it was a 3k

It's not a big deal for most I reckon, just feels a liiil bad in my case

[fallen path]

Are you planning to use them eventually, it’s not like it’s good value to bank them until EOS unlike free gems..

[weary spire]

Ofc lol

I would've made them last an extremely long time tho, I wasn't going to buy paid gems beyond that

[spare thorn]

There's some units I don't really want but will grab to play with in some team comps

Like palbea

Or ingo

[weary spire]

but if that's the type of player you are, you're honestly better off with the new bundle than getting a lot at once
this is an addition to my previous message*

[spare thorn]

SS Morty was another

I wonder if we'll get some surprise limited selects now

Not in the datamine and lasting like a week

[weary spire]

yeah, the one I selected was SS Morty, but even then, I already kinda liked the pairing & his design

[spare thorn]

Obv if you see in the datamine you can buy in advance

[weary spire]

1 last thing I wanna add tho just to kinda make the comparison clear:
story bundle according to spreadsheet = 591 gems/$1USD
champ bundle is 685 gems/$1 USD
daily gem bundle EX is essentially 1000 gems/$1USD

🅱️razy

[mild spindle]

Not sure if everyone is aware, but I did compile all the rerun dates for Fair Units over in #1006618823123800106.
So you can quickly glance when the last time X reran.

Aside from Lucas, no other 2022 Fair unit has had a rerun (with non-paid gems).

[timber wren]

its a very nice resource ty sages

not even celesa has had a non paid rerun yet

almost a year of PFs with no nonpaid reruns

[spare thorn]

Best unit in the game

My lodge units lined up perfectly to level 100 sycamore tomorrow then start elesa

Then silver and I'm out of lodge units

[weary spire]

I'm just thinking about it, and I feel one can argue the 1st gem deal over the 2nd many times for the purpose of, well... selecting dupes rather than candying them

You're saving the candy for $3, so long as you have the patience and there's not someone else in the select fighting for the 3k. Considering the 2nd bundle values a candy at $12, which is 4x that

Anyone else think so?

[reef river]

It really depends on how badly you need candies

You cant paid select master fairs

[weary spire]

That's true, it's different for Master Fairs

[mild spindle]

The candy bundle is $19, so more like 6.3x more.

[weary spire]

I meant specifically the candy, not the gems

[mild spindle]

Well the next limited unit select scouts are due in new years. i guess we will see if they remain at 3,000 / 5,000.

[weary spire]

The daily gem bundle has 1k gems for $1, the candy bundle has 7k gems + 1 candy for $19. So if you take the gems away, the value of the candy is $12

Still, 3k or 5k, that's $3 or $5 for a dupe of a limited pair (with the exception of a Master Fair) rather than the $12 you're putting into the candy with the 2nd bundle

It's generally greater value to do so, but selects only show up once in a while with a limited pool of options and exclude Master Fairs, so those reasons are why you'd take the 2nd bundle as well if necessary
Or if you just need even more, then that's another reason to take the 2nd bundle

Otherwise, take only the first and potentially consider selecting dupes

[reef river]

The candy coin bundle is a "sometimes" thing if u are spending. The other one is a "probably always" if you choose to spenf

Is there any value consideration for the BP boost? I feel like thats not worth at all

[weary spire]

Pretty much yeah, it all depends on you & your circumstances at the end of the day, but I did wanna emphasise the fact that selecting dupes sounds like a lot more of an option than it was before with these comparisons

[slow hare]

Actually this math is kinda interesting because it says the price for a 4/5 or 5/5 unit (if youre unlucky) on a banner is ~$100

[slow hare]

Lol Ron same, I feel silly having bought the Ash bundle but oh well. All the paid gems in my account but nothing to spend them on means I'm not going to jump into this new paid gem subscription service until after DeNA gives me something actually worthwhile to spend on (which in my case means more 3k paid selects, cuz the 5ks are still not worth to me)

(I don't do dailies cuz that's still throwing away money from my perspective.... even if now 100 paid gems is only $0.10 USD.... is one worth 10 cents when I'm still swimming in them lol???)

To me they're literally worthless, maybe 1 cent tops xD

[weary spire]

I 1000% feel you

I think I may start to consider 5k paid gems a lil more if the pair has enough appeal to me, and maybe consider taking more 3k selects bc I skip so many as it is

But I'm not going to switch up and start spending my paid gems like crazy, I'm still going to keep them in my balance for a long time, which is what dissuades me from buying more paid gems in a similar way it does for you

Dailies are a no-no unless topping up pity, I just need more selects

[thorny pelican]

The actual value per resource needs to involve the essence of time too

Like you're not really paying for candy coins and gems and bp

You're paying for a time skip

BP and candy coins and gems come naturally and, in essence, Gem Zen is about accepting the flow of income and building a level of acknowledgement towards what it is you want and can obtain

[slow hare]

Yeah I agree ron

For me there's no pairs I can think that would be worth 5k other than perhaps MFs

But they'll never do that

[fallen path]

MFs would be 5 figured if they ever wanted to go the paid gem route

[spare thorn]

Idk the amount of money they're pumping in

They could do a MF banner

[slow hare]

I was gonna say "maybe I'd drop 10k paid on a MF select" then I realized nah I wouldn't lol

Still not worth

10k was the heckin' SC tier scout

[tawny dagger]

Most gachas have insane value monthly passes

Poma was an outlier until now

Since monthly passes promote daily interaction with the game

Games don't mind them making the packs better value than even anniversary deals

Since the rewards are spread out

[sturdy flower]

i wouldnt mind a 3$ pack better than the 1$ mf ones

[tawny dagger]

Their "subscription" based nature also helps with monetization