Sync Grids

[zinc meadow]

Not enough for Sand Shelter?

Nope

[echo crypt]

tbf I think Berserk Bunch isn't so much of a necessity

at least not for the pairs I'm thinking about

[zinc meadow]

Cause it only makes Attack go to 2 per use, right?

She normally only raises it by 1.

[echo crypt]

1 with TM and 1 when she gets hit

[gentle sun]

This is probably something that can be optimized, tank + Focus Group idea

[zinc meadow]

Oh forgot about the second thing, time to fix

Oh Cobalt did it better!

[echo crypt]

funny, I came up with almost the same thing except I took the sync tile route, but the important tiles are the same

[gentle sun]

Honestly, with the kit she has I think it's hard to justify Mini-Potion All MP Refresh/Master Healer

[zinc meadow]

It genuinely is. I’m glad I finally got a grid right for once

[gentle sun]

Maybe for Gauntlet use

[echo crypt]

potions in general are not worth paying attention to unless you want to use her for Gauntlet

[zinc meadow]

Her defensive passive buffs are really valuable if you have her at higher move levels.

And ofc the Crit

[gentle sun]

Focus Group is always nice if you can find a way to get it

[zinc meadow]

Again, nice y’all agree with a build I did something right at least 80%

[bronze dragon]

Parting from the idea that FA4 + FG9 are a must, you can have 3 presets with those and
-Freevenge 2 + sterner stuff 2
-Earthquake MGR3 + Trip Up 9 + Team Wise Entry 2
-Potion pack

4th preset you can make a specific build for units that won't demand crit

I think berserk bunch is bad, she raises +2 atk with 2 uses of tm and she will probably raise another +2 in first sync cycle from getting hit

Can't think of units that need more than +4 atk from someone else

[clever thorn]

Check the 2nd pin, there’s a document in there with builds for nearly every pair

[keen bridge]

How do u get grid expansion for Cyrus Palkia?

[merry onyx]

you would've had to been playing the second part of the team galactic event and exchange for it

they rerun every so often so, but cyrus probably wont be back for the next few months, as the alola arc is expected to be next in line

[keen bridge]

Ahh gotcha alright thanks

[primal wasp]

Nice grid

I wonder what Team I will be using him on, there seems like so many possibilities

[sweet parcel]

He can be used with any physical dmg dealers

[cloud crane]

and in desperate cases with on type special dmg dealers

[primal wasp]

Never going to be this desperate I swear

[cloud crane]

i mean its not that bad. super effective next nuke is a possibility along with the rebuff applied

but yeah. better not to be that desperate

[stark berry]

Maybe Allister may appreciate the aor restrain

But Allister had his own seun

[copper verge]

Most Sync Grids up-to-date #1008010844547842079 message
Sorry for the delay on this one guys, hope this helps

[amber tusk]

Thank you, it’s alright if you’re late. Least thanks to the wait I can finally adjust SC Steven grid.

[stark berry]

Sc Steven feels pretty busted even at 1/5, i can finally rush fairy weak with 1/5 summer Lyra

[sonic slate]

Which piers grid is recommended for most cs/ebe usage prob. Like general presync strategy or is that not his main use

[bronze dragon]

Depends on your allies

He is not a unit that enables anything in particular

[cloud crane]

Piers is kinda great in general for CS. All you need is TM MPR

I personally take even dire hit + MPR just to use less gauge

Obstruct grids for longer battles

He's quite good for pre sync since with him you can go for slightly more offensive parameters

Just hope for a TM MPR since he'll be enduring

Can even support two gauge heavy strikers due to the gauge refresh

Slightly RNG for the MPRs though

Ideally queue the gauge refresh as the third move of the turn

[stark berry]

Piers is more for hyper offensive

[round yoke]

Is there nothing for expansion WAlly yet?

[merry onyx]

Wally got an expansion a few months back

[round yoke]

was asking since I was glancing at the lysted builds and didn't see anything for higher ranks. Checked and it did hsow the expansion stuff so I'm a derp

[merry onyx]

Wally isnt a pokefair so he didnt get 4/5 or 5/5 tiles

Instead he got more tiles unlocked at 1/5, 2/5 and 3/5

[cunning fox]

Me when I get the Solgaleo grid almost exactly

Crit or sync damage both would have been fine with me me this is such a W

[merry onyx]

its a good expansion too

[placid heart]

Ooor Ethan

[cloud crane]

tank Ethan

[shrewd sparrow]

updated

[rotund talon]

nice

[rotund talon]

just some preliminary cooking/spitballing, but i like this at 3/5 for fairy weak stuff (where i'd personally be using her most)
don't have to worry about zone or crit defense running out (for shorter form modes).
can get rid of team sharp entry if not needed, leaving up to 17 energy to spend elsewhere
whipped it up just now, but it's what i'm thinking i'll keep as a base

can pair this with ad1/hs1/hh for the lucky skill

[stark berry]

It's normal that tapu Koko has a psychic terrain tile and tapu Lele an electric terrain tile?

[sweet parcel]

they are designed to use together i suppose

[stark berry]

But you can't run electric and psychic terrain together

[sweet parcel]

no need to ping

[stark berry]

Ah yes always forget that in this server people get mad if i forget to disable ping reply

[sweet parcel]

and yes, you can only run a terrain

the reason behind that is unknown, ask dena instead

[stark berry]

It's like in the main series

You can't run electric and psychic terrain in main series games

Like you can't run rain and sun together

Maybe they just messed up with the grid

Not a big deal, but is kinda weird

I don't think the tapus are meant to be run together, just like Groudon and Kyogre aren't meant to be run together

[bronze dragon]

It's just a random node, nothing wrong

May has surging sand 5 despite being a rain setter for example

Clemont has raging rain 5, surging sand 5 and charging sun 5

It could still be that the nodes are swapped between them

[sweet parcel]

Clemont is reasonable at least, these tiles are Helioisk's ability ripoffs

[bronze dragon]

It just has solar power

But the point was you can have multiple passives that cannot be co-active

[uncut vessel]

The Reddit post got it wrong. It's Critical Eye 1, not Lock-on Sync 5.

But finally, an expansion for Solgaleo.

Thoughts?

The plan for this is to get the Sync Move off then use your Trainer Move twice then go for a Sunsteel Strike.

[bronze dragon]

Furious Brain is a must

[round bridge]

You can use his TM at the first turn

[uncut vessel]

Hmm...

[bronze dragon]

On practice you shouldn't be needing Critical Eye 1 + Sharp Entry 1

[uncut vessel]

Give me a second.

[round bridge]

His gameplan can always be TM > TM > attacks

[uncut vessel]

Okay, I scraped Sync Freebie in favour of Haymaker and Furious Brawn.

This is a Sunsteel Strike grid.

Here's a Focus Blast Overkill Grid.

[bronze dragon]

What units are you using him with?

[lament plaza]

For Sunsteel Strike, maybe Marnie (Mawile). For Focus Blast, maybe SS Hop

Tho I think Wally does it better with Focus Blast?

Not sure

[bronze dragon]

No need for sharp entry 1

[lament plaza]

I think you need it for easy way to max crit by itself

[uncut vessel]

Yes.

[bronze dragon]

2 uses of TM, makes it +3 with team sharp entry 1 form P Marnie or Ch Hop's DHA+ or any decent support that gives +1

[uncut vessel]

Well what if you don't have access to those units?

Like me?

[bronze dragon]

That's why I asked you what units are you using

[gentle sun]

Oh, I see what happened

Someone else responded to the question about who you’d use Solgaleo with

[lament plaza]

On that one, you might be right.

But on any other units, Sharp Entry is nice to have

[uncut vessel]

For the Focus Blast grid, if you don't have access to Focus Group 9, SS Cynthia (Aura).

[bronze dragon]

Even if you don't have P Marnie, Ch Hop or SSA Cynthia, I can't imagine why would you not use a support with just +1 crit

[gentle sun]

I will say that Marley is just a nice option to pair with Solgaleo

Maxes Speed, gives +1 crit

[lament plaza]

Oh yeaaaah. Solgaleo hasn't fixed its speed weakness

[bronze dragon]

Solgaleo's main issue was consuming gauge on TM, that has been addressed

He still is a 3 gauge move user with double MGR nodes for Sunsteel strike

He is just called Slowgaleo for old times meta

[uncut vessel]

BOGO 9 fixes that.

To an extent.

[bronze dragon]

Haymaker now gives a reason for Sync Freebie to be useful too

[lament plaza]

Not really feeling for sync freebie tho

[bronze dragon]

It is unnecessary, just saying it's one of the many ways he has to manage gauge

[lament plaza]

Would you personally go for MGR for Solgaleo whether for Sunsteel Strike or Focus Blast?

[bronze dragon]

Last priority, I don't struggle with 3 gauge users

But it depends on your team

[lament plaza]

I guess it'll come down for personal pref for me then

[stark berry]

I guess the grid fixes solgaleo, now is fully self sufficient, has a nuke, and bogo 9 helps with setup gauges

By today standards, solgaleo is quite gauge friendly

3 gauge attacks and decent base speed

[uncut vessel]

Alternatively, if you want a more DPS build, swap out the Sync Freebie path for both Haymaker and Furious Brawn.

[stark berry]

Now solgaleo should just use gauges for the 1st tm, but would still have free move next after the 2 TMs

[sonic slate]

Yeah solgaleo looks really promising now.

I might swap from Gloria kgrims hop to Gloria solga hop for my steel team tbh

[stark berry]

I guess they are trying to give units a bit of nuke with grid expansion

To make ex mure useful i guess

Ethan grid got mainly sync stuffs, but initial guard helps against random AOE attacks that will ruin eruption damage,critical eye is nice too

[placid heart]

No DPS modifiers which is what he needed so rip

[bronze dragon]

Ethan?

He has enough DPS multipliers, he got what he was lacking

[copper verge]

Everything up-to-date for April, will work on latest datamine step-by-step. Starting with Sync Grids, being prioritized over the Tier List
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[clever thorn]

[pallid oak]

any good ideas for a 3/5 Acerola/Bulu grid? Say, for LG purposes, so Green Thumb is a must. imo No Quarter a must, if you are going for Tripping Strike 4.

[sweet parcel]

Tripping Strike 4 is very niche

[shrewd sparrow]

[sweet parcel]

dont pick that tile unless you use Acerola on Latias

[shrewd sparrow]

[sweet parcel]

[bronze dragon]

If anything no quarter is useful for punishing strike

Similar to how V Lorelei has it

[pallid oak]

Shielded 1 or Team Brawn Gain?

[sly fulcrum]

Probably shielded for LG

Don't think it makes that big of a difference

[placid dust]

Is sync nuke or psychic or hidden power the best Caitlin grid

[sweet parcel]

Sync nuke

[placid dust]

@pallid oak I will probably make ab alternate without any of the top left and include first aid/safety tether/natural remedy for certain LG too

[cloud crane]

Thank you very much for reminding that Caitlin got a grid upgrade

forgot completely about that

[placid dust]

I honestly wish they leaned more into her tanking even if bad defense stats lol

Her catalytic cure being 30% chance of 20% heal on any move had alot of potential if they combo's with more

[cloud crane]

i mean she should be helpful in LGs still for tanking i guess

and her damage will help make it slightly less time spent tanking maybe

[stark berry]

Critical eye is nice so she can do decent damage while tanking

[wispy dagger]

For Cynthia and garchomp I just got her to 3/5 and was planning on gridding her but I couldn’t find any grids. Most of them were 4/5 or 5/5 grids and the only 3/5 grid is good if I have a sandstorm sync pair so what should I do?

Whenever I’m using Cynthia I use Courtney and camerupt and she has ground wish

[elfin crypt]

Cynthia really wants sandstorm to boost her damage

[wispy dagger]

Is sandstorm better than ground wish?

Or is sandstorm just rlly helpful when using the 3/5 grid?

[sweet parcel]

Yes

[elfin crypt]

In Cynthia’s case yes because almost all of her multipliers are tied to it

[sweet parcel]

Do you have Ingo or Bertha?

[wispy dagger]

I have Bertha

[elfin crypt]

Bertha is perfect yeah

[wispy dagger]

I see

Ok so I shouldn’t use Courtney for Cynthia teams and instead I should use Bertha?

[sweet parcel]

You run both Courtney and Bertha with her

Bertha is an excellent tank

[wispy dagger]

Ok bet

is there a specific grid I should use for Bertha cuz iirc I have her at 3/5

[clever thorn]

Take Sand Castle, Hit and Heal, and probably Team Sharp Entry

[wispy dagger]

Ok bet bet

[crude stag]

Does anyone have a hao and tapu grid

[icy raven]

What your using it 4

[crude stag]

Was using it for nuke

I think this grid is pretty good

[sweet parcel]

for sync nuke i would use this:

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/9801/78500?s=3&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFCREbHh8pKy8yNDU

[icy raven]

His Kit is kind of funny to me in a bad way, just pick the nuke tiles and then go from there
@crude stag you forgot to pick Power Plant

[sweet parcel]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/9801/78500?s=3&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFDBseJigpKy8yNQ

here is the one with Power Plant ^

[sweet parcel]

Power Plant is not needed in pre sync context

hence why i made 2 versions of sync nuke grid

[crude stag]

I find nice as there is so much u can do with him imo

I did pre sync

So no power plant needed

[icy raven]

Test it out for yourself and see if it's needed for you or not

[crude stag]

Did it without

Finally i have a upgrade for electric and fairy

[mystic bison]

what's the new optimal grid for solgaleo?

[sonic slate]

I could be a bit wrong on some of the extra tiles but I’m planning to go something like this for steel now https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/949078726228987954/1100481168899579954/image.png

The entire power boost I can see myself using with him

Which honestly is quite rare I feel that all 4 tiles synergize so well with what I wanted out of a unit

[sly fulcrum]

Actually will be replacing my gloria since she's only 2/5

[icy raven]

Mines

[cloud crane]

Personally thinking of a grid like this for steel content and being self sufficient

Will spare Hop then

[bronze dragon]

Y'all are sending similar grids swapping 1 or 2 nodes

[cloud crane]

That's because the important stuff is mostly in his expansion

[bronze dragon]

-SE1 is very niche having TM:CE1
-Sunsteel strike BP nodes are much more worth it than attack nodes

[cloud crane]

Does make him self sufficient from the get go

[bronze dragon]

Also I see people picking double MGR for a 3 gauge move of a unit who has 2 freebies which sounds not useful at all

[bronze dragon]

Yes but can't think of a scenario where none of your allies are giving you at least +1 crit

Every steel/fighting zone setter will give you crit

[cloud crane]

Wouldn't want to consider zones but yeah supports mostly

[bronze dragon]

I mean if you're using steel zone you can't avoid getting that +1 crit

And if you're not using zones then you still have 2 slots of freedom to put someone that gives +1 crit

[cloud crane]

Just one of the grids. Surely there will have to be many variants. Can't assume to having zone units I guess

[bronze dragon]

It's not about zone

[cloud crane]

Surely not one grid to rule them all for solgaleo I guess

As always will depend on team comps

[bronze dragon]

I'm only talking about Sharp Entry 1 right now
This node is barely useful if you already have TM Critical Eye 1

You just need to slot in a unit that has +1 crit

[cloud crane]

Yeah sure. If there's the need for those extra sun steel BP nodes might as well

Or maybe sync freebie to make him even more gauge friendly

And then there's also brainteaser which may be an option with CHop

Or even SC Diantha

[tulip moat]

Heavily struggling with a grid for fini. Any suggestions? (3/5)

Nvm I didn't think the doc would be updated so quickly

[copper verge]

Everything up-to-date for the month
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[sly fulcrum]

Thanks for the hard work spark

And the team ofc

[copper verge]

[rotund talon]

is there any reason why whimsical acceleration and rain gear are taken over sync wall for fini 3/5?

always thought those move gauge speed nodes don't make much of a difference unless they specifically trigger the actual move gauge acceleration effect-- i could be wrong about this, not sure

rain gear seems decent but i think i'd rather take sync wall just to minimise crit rng and more safely run adrenaline 1 lucky skill

idk though, i might be missing something

[sly fulcrum]

I assume whimsical acceleration is taken in the thoughts that most player would put vigilance on her

[rotund talon]

i think running vigilance is a waste of her baked in crit defense

[sly fulcrum]

In a way not taking whimisical acceleration is kinda also a waste of her fairy zone that's extended

[rotund talon]

not if it doesn't make a huge difference on gauge

[sly fulcrum]

Same argument it's really just your preference

[rotund talon]

which i'm not sure about

[round bridge]

Its because the enemies very rarely crit

The acceleration and rain gear do have a small effect, but if you die to a crit you can just reset

[rotund talon]

is the acceleration noticeable?

[round bridge]

Its like 16% increase iirc

So it might be noticeable

[rotund talon]

i see, that doesn't sound horrible

i went in with the mindset that mitigating even a small chance of dying to a crit can minimise how much you may need to reset. that's why people run vigilance right

but if accel is noticeable probably worth

[round bridge]

If you prefer the safety of crit shield then you can go for it, I think both grids will perform similarly

[sly fulcrum]

At the end of the day, the grid in the doc serves as a guide

[rotund talon]

mina doesn't supplement gauge at all without the accel so i'll try both

[sly fulcrum]

Your grid will be really good in say entei

Just depends on how u adapt

[rotund talon]

i know grids aren't ironclad and one-size-fits-all. i was genuinely putting forth mine because i thought it was a better generalist/base

but that isn't necessarily the case

as i know now

[bronze dragon]

I don't like sync wall because what you want to use it for is mainly protecting your other 2 allies, but that's something you can already do with B Protect

Normally you just want to protect them once

[rotund talon]

either way mina's 3/5 grid honestly just tempts me to opt for 4/5 for the move gauge accel lmao

so she can truly be worse ss kris but with fairy zone

[bronze dragon]

Even if MGA is better, she has Whimsical Acceleration 2 and Racing Rain 2

Wouldn't suggest candying to 4/5 just because of that

[copper verge]

Not particularly, both are valid. I'm just trying to highlight most the interesting tile as you can see those pairs have a lot of various paths and key tiles you can consider so there is no locked in "best build". If you feel you prefer the crit def over a bit of bulk and gauge that's totally fine

I'm personally never really bothered by crit, most my Supports don't even run Vigilance in the first place
Especially since Fini brings it once with the TM and then can just time B Protect for those scripted crits on LA, still a valid tile to consider once again

[rotund talon]

she's not even 3/5 for me lol. just 1/5, and i don't have enough candies to get her to 4/5 even if i wanted to

unless i use my yellow candies

[copper verge]

the only tile that really justify candying her is TSE1 tbh

[rotund talon]

and by proxy fairy kingdom

cause otherwise i don't think fairy zone lasts long enough for second sync?

[copper verge]

Yeah Fairy Kingdom for longer stages

[rotund talon]

no of course, there's never a best build aha, i was under the impression that whimsical accel was terrible, but it seems alright

it doesn't make much of a difference, because sync wall isn't that great either

[copper verge]

It's a pretty fine helping hand on gauge, not a huge acceleration ofc

[rotund talon]

you need it to get zone to cover second sync even on shorter modes like csmm right?

ig with fairy zone + supp ex, most fairy dps will blast through stages before needing to get their sync in, but for the weaker ones like valerie, could be nice

[copper verge]

Depends if your team include Sync accel or not

[bronze dragon]

The problem for those fairy units is how well they fit with Fini

[copper verge]

and if you really need 2 Syncs to clear the stage xD

[bronze dragon]

Like Valerie would need a crit buffer on top

[copper verge]

Yeah Fini has a bit of an awkward time being justified for now, lacks some clear abusers

Rain units will generally prefer KirSS or NC Calem, Fairy units will generally prefer Koko or SS Wally

[merry onyx]

don't wanna interrupt so i'm just gonna have this here

Is really worth the sing MGR and TM MPR in elio's crit tank build? Both are only 1 and I dont think they’d make that big of an impact when you could take SA FT and unbending + haste

[copper verge]

not particularly interesting indeed

[rotund talon]

100%, imo fini is quite poor for people with expansive rosters

i just pulled because she's a favourite

[copper verge]

That's the best reason to pull

[rotund talon]

lyrapuff is a better example than valerie

[sly fulcrum]

I'm just doing dailies for her hoping to get her

And hopefully some abuser in the future

[merry onyx]

What would be a good fairy DPS grid for hau? There isn't one on the docs, at least not that I saw

This is what I have but theres still 20 more energy

[icy raven]

I don't get why would you want to use him as a fairy DPS.
Are you trying to use him as a zone setter?

[placid heart]

Pserena if you have her is the first that comes to mind

[merry onyx]

Because I have no better fairy dps

Hes literally my best option probably LMAO

[echo crypt]

eh

you are better off sticking to bmove off type damage

[icy raven]

His Sync is electric. So I don't see the point. Just use the free fairy tech dog looking like Pokémon. That's what people are using

[merry onyx]

Thats why I said dps, not sync

[echo crypt]

again, Dazzling Gleam won't out dps bmove even being on type

so pair him with another fairy if you really want to use him for that, but don't attack with his fairy move

[copper verge]

The build you shared is your best bet for pure Fairy, it only just slightly beats the Bmove on-type, but yeah still really sketchy if you ask me you better play him normally and power-ups strong special attackers off-type tbh

[bronze dragon]

Dazzling Gleam needs SEUN to beat offtype B Electroweb

The SMUN stacks benefit much more B Electroweb

[fading gulch]

what’s the best grid for naomi

[placid heart]

there is no best grid for a unit

[fading gulch]

ok fine whats her best grid for nuke dps hybrid

[placid heart]

I only see one grid in pins for her so i'd just say that

and a variant for on type

[fading gulch]

does that use ramming speed or oar3

[placid heart]

idk

[fading gulch]

ill just guess it uses ramming speed cuz she buffs it herself anyway

[echo crypt]

you could... you know, look at the build and see what it's picking

[clever thorn]

Increasing the debuff rate from 10-40% is generally not as useful as a straight up multiplier for standard play
I could see OAR used for LG tho

[fading gulch]

oh right earth power is 10% not 20%

[cunning fox]

I need help with Appletun (my beloved)

Vigilence is INSANELY expensive to pickup on her grid cause well… her whole grid is way too expensive tbh. Everything needs to be a point or two less to make it more doable. But I was wondering if I should just give it to her as a lucky skill so I checked the guide

Guide says not to prioritize it and wise entry 2 DOES seem very helpful. Problem is.

Neither example grid has vigilance.

[gentle sun]

Keep in mind that those grids are examples and not the only options.

You can always start with Vigilance now and see what you think before getting a more "premium" Lucky Skill, too, if you want

[cunning fox]

This is doable but please behold

Screaming crying and throwing up

[gentle sun]

Can probably do without Revenge boost depending on the team

So can sub in Quick Cure

[cunning fox]

Should I keep the sync node or get two stat nodes

Poor man’s +10 speed

[clever thorn]

The way that the speed formula works means that the slowest team member’s speed doesn’t matter much, so speed tiles won’t be worth taking

If you did take stats, I’d go with HP or defs.

[bronze dragon]

If you're picking sterner stuff 2 all the time, which means you plan to face physical stage, why give up Vigilance for Wise Entry 2 as lucky skill?

Although Vigilance is a bit overrated because it used to be the only valid LS for tanks

Enemy crits are not common, so you can give it WE2, HS1, Adr1 and just keep 1 grid with vigilance, as not only the node is expensive but the path to it too while not giving much

[distant lark]

any good sync grids for clefairy lillie?

[shadow wadi]

Have you tried checking the pins?

[distant lark]

I did but which one is better for tank?

[bronze dragon]

So you didn't check the pins

[clever thorn]

In most cases, Catalytic Cure + MPR is nice as a pure tank, but the Unfortuitous build is arguably better for LA/LG

[fading gulch]

you can take CC and Unfortuitous

probably also mpr

[distant lark]

Okay thanks

[tired topaz]

Someone here has an actually good 2/5 grid for SS acerola?

I can't get her to 3 rn, so 2/5 is what I can have for now

[sweet parcel]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/701/78700?s=2&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBhcYGRobHSAiJScp

i would use this

[tired topaz]

Thanks!

[cunning fox]

SORRY I FORGOT TO REPLY

I was comparing to the suggested grids. Since the guide hinted at getting vigilance on grid, I wanted to make versions of the examples that actually attempt to do that. I think wise entry 2 is pretty decent since sidemons sometimes have special moves even when the mid is mostly physical in MM (or vise versa but that doesn’t apply here). But she heals so much that it might not matter in the long run anyways? I’ll have to think on it. I’m still running vigilence on most of her grids because I have OCD and want whoever I’m tanking with to have vigilance with very few exceptions. (I know it’s not logical. But OCD compulsions are generally loosely based in reason if at all)

I run out of blue lucky cookies on the regular…

[placid heart]

Taking brain teaser on a sun steel strike grid isn’t a bad idea if I’m using him with ssbrendan because he’s already self sufficient enough right cause I don’t see any grid take it

[gentle sun]

If you’ve got Solgaleo slapped on a team with a reliable Sp. Def. debuffer I suppose it’s doable

[placid heart]

Oo I didn’t even think that ssbrendan can give it a super beefed up focus blast for a good single burst

(I tested the grid lel)

[bronze dragon]

You'd rather use a support that debuffs defense

If you want an extra multiplier for Sunsteel Strike, tanking with him and picking PR5 is better

[clever thorn]

Yeah the boost you get from -6 Def against an enemy with Trained Body 5 is very similar to the boost from -6 SpDef Brainteaser

[placid heart]

Since I dont have PMarnie I am just using SCDiantha for that role

SSbrendan and SSDiantha is what I have been using

So I can get the best of bothw= worlds I also hate PR as a multiplier

[bronze dragon]

Then you would use focus blast instead

[primal wasp]

Does Lance want to be at 3/5? The +candy chart has him at 3/5 but I thought he improved from his Grid Expansion. Raihanni also doesn’t really want anything past 3/5 right?

Like his ability to buff himself from his TM to +6 SpAtk and Atk.

[placid heart]

Saying he improved from his grid expansion is very vague as he got both, in which he imrpoved greatly from both. If you mean you rhought he mainly improved from 4-5/5 more, he gets his multipliers at 3/5 but is more support reliant on supports like Cbede who buff both offenses. Raihan has a good 3/5 but his 5/5 turns him into a completely different unit thats incredible but becomes more weather reliant.

[sweet parcel]

You are talking about Anni Raihan right?

[placid heart]

Oh because they were talking about Lance and then Raihan I completely ignored that anni part

[sweet parcel]

3/5 Lance gets all multipliers iirc, and 5/5 makes him not rely on supports anymore

[placid heart]

Anni Raihan 5/5 grid is pretty neat but not necessary but its def pretty good with that sun extension and max countdown 2

[small python]

lusamine3/5 grid plz

[sweet parcel]

Check the pins

[rotund talon]

anni raihan gets significantly better at virtually every upgrade, whether you actually get him there just depends what you want out of him. I stopped at 2/5 because 3/5 turns him into a nuke, which i don't think is a very fun way to use him--despite being effective

at 2/5 he gets sandstorm mpr, mind boggler, aggravation and self-sufficiency

exactly the type of disruptor/buffer kit i want out of him

4/5 and 5/5 do lean more heavily into utility for raihan which is cool, but that's just too many candies on one unit for me

[bronze dragon]

He still gets other very good things at 3/5 like propulsion 9, MAX Team smarts 9 and solar sync

Mine is 5/5 and I really enjoy his toolbox kit as well as not having to worry much about field durations with his 2 extensions

[rotund talon]

yeah like i said, he absolutely gets significantly better with every upgrade, but if you're candying to specifically 3/5 without intending to nuke, and just using him for utility purposes (like me), i'd say staying at 2/5 is smarter. however, 4/5 and 5/5 change things.

so basically yes, even his utility gets better at 3/5, compared to 2/5, but imo the leap isn't big enough to warrant a candy for that purpose alone

[rotund talon]

part of his gameplan for me is basically just fishing for sandstorm mpr and spamming it for smun/pmun, so i find the sand extension would be largely redundant for non-LG modes

[bronze dragon]

Many people use him as a countdown unit too, so extension can grant you leeway to spam sandstorm early on and still have it active for syncs

But yeah in MM extension is not needed

[placid heart]

Wait wth he has both?? Never boticed

[sweet parcel]

Sand Alert is 3/5
Drought Alert is 5/5

[placid heart]

Wth someone at dena likes raihan

[zinc meadow]

Secret admirer

[placid heart]

Raihan Dev

[placid heart]

In the grid doc for celebi it shows (image one) for Celibi but couldnt you instead take the +2 spatk tile instead as spd tiles dont matter to much (although this change also doesnt matter to much

[clever thorn]

Who made Celebi’s sync special

[placid heart]

Same person who made thorton

[bronze dragon]

If you already know it almost doesn't matter then you already know the answer

[foggy urchin]

Healing Hand or Recuperation

[sweet parcel]

depends on which stage you bring him to

generally Recup is better

[clever thorn]

Personally not a fan of either

Adren is preferred for CS

[copper verge]

Very minor but still better, updated, good catch

[left abyss]

In the same vein, could Silver's Solar Beam grid be changed from the first pic to the second ? Trading Overheat accuracy for 2 SpAtk nodes

[sweet parcel]

i would pick the second grid

[placid heart]

I think they were asking to change the first grid which I assume is in the doc to the second one

[sweet parcel]

let's wait for Spark's reponse

[left abyss]

Haha yes

[fair saffron]

Does anyone have SS Lana’s 3/5 grid? When I click on it in the pins nothing loads

Not sure if it’s a mobile issue

[sweet parcel]

Its fine for me,. probably mobile issue

[fair saffron]

Do you mind sharing it in here?

[clever thorn]

Which one do you want?

[fair saffron]

The one that says 3/5

[clever thorn]

Like the first one?

[fair saffron]

Sorry, sync nuke

First one

[clever thorn]

This is the “Sync Nuke” build

[fair saffron]

Thank you!

[clever thorn]

But tbh i don’t really recommend it that much unless you have no other psychics

[fair saffron]

Which would you recommend?

I have basically all the other psychic pairs

[clever thorn]

Probably the “B Psycho Cut” build

[fair saffron]

Okay let me see if that one will load for me

[clever thorn]

You can skip the propulsion 9 tile if you aren’t bringing allies with sync accel

[fair saffron]

thanks a lot for your help!

[rotund talon]

yea propulsion seems pretty nice, albeit luxurious

[copper verge]

Correct as well, edited

[cyan obsidian]

Have the recommended grids for Ethan been updated to meet with today's standards?

[sweet parcel]

yes

[magic carbon]

QQ, should I use move candy for 2/5 Emma or 3/5 Neo Marnie? 🤔

[gentle sun]

Is that getting a pair to that move level or is that the move level they are now?

[magic carbon]

Getting them to that level

So rn I have 1/5 Emma and 2/5 NMarnie

[gentle sun]

Then either 3/5 Champ Marnie or wait until you can 3/5 Emma. Neither gains that significant of a boost from 2/5

[magic carbon]

Yeah that’s why I was asking, both at 2/5 aren’t INCREDIBLE

[gentle sun]

Both are fantastic even at 1/5

But if you must use the candy now then Champ Marnie benefits the most

[magic carbon]

Lol I don’t have to, I just always like unlocking the full grid ya know?

Any of these pairs have significant changes from 1-2/5? If not I’ll just save my candy 🍬

[gentle sun]

Not really, no. Very few Sync Pairs gain their most valuable grid tiles from 2/5

[zinc meadow]

• candy in #bot-zone shows the ones that do gain improvement from 2/5

[spring belfry]

imo

cmarnie

if u candy it, nuke powerful makes b move less useful which is the main gimmick

since it works like extend range

u would rather support EX than nuke with cmarnie

[bronze dragon]

Well candying also makes her b move stronger

Her dupes aren't just for sync

[sly fulcrum]

Poma tools updated

[uncut vessel]

Guess getting Morty and Ho-oh to 4/5 was worth it.

[bronze dragon]

That's the sweet spot imo, he becomes a reliable crit buffer

[uncut vessel]

I might try to get him 5/5. The only unit I have at 5/5 is N and Zekrom.

Don't know just yet.

[gentle sun]

Eh, I’d argue his 4/5 and 5/5 tiles are just QoL

[uncut vessel]

QoL?

[gentle sun]

Quality of Life

[uncut vessel]

Well... Should I do it? Should I save for SS Morty?

[gentle sun]

If you already have him at 4/5 then skip the rerun, IMO

[uncut vessel]

I mean, Sunburst is very useful.

I mean, if I go for the rerun, I can get this grid.

[gentle sun]

The thing about Sunburst is that the vast majority of Sync Pairs you use SS Morty with will have at least 1 turn where they don’t care whether Sun is up or not

[uncut vessel]

Can I get a second opinion?

Because this is kind of a dilemma for me.

Because on one hand, I have a soft spot for Shiny Ho-oh since it was my first ever shiny in Pokémon Go. But on the other hand, I could use my gems for something else.

[gentle sun]

If you must 5/5 your SS Morty then do it with a candy

[clever thorn]

It’s your choice but i don’t consider the grid good enough to justify the candies or gems

[gentle sun]

A potential 36.6k gems for 2 QoL grid tiles is a rather poor deal

[uncut vessel]

I'll wait till I get a candy then.

But I'll wait until Spark updates the doc.

[merry onyx]

i wouldnt, 4/5 is fine. especially with crit squad, you're gonna turn one sunny day regardless and get max crit in 2 turns

plus i would want energy to get team gimme five, as i think it's a pretty important passive for him

[uncut vessel]

Hmm...

[merry onyx]

helps strikers that only get themselves to +4 atk/sp atk not need to waste a turn buffing

[uncut vessel]

Let me do some readjustment.

[uncut vessel]

Something like this?

[merry onyx]

i wouldnt really lean into the potion stuff personally

[uncut vessel]

Maybe this?

[uncut vessel]

Okay, that works, too.

[merry onyx]

that could work yea

i just like self sunbathe to keep himself alive

alternatively this if you want adrenaline

i find it useful especially when sun (most of the time) runs out when you use it turn 1

[uncut vessel]

Okay, yeah, that could be useful if I'm using Silver and Ho-oh.

Especially since I have Morty and Ho-oh at EX.

[merry onyx]

Yep

He always takes first sync in most team comps

Unless you're running him with something like mayziken or ss red who need mega for something

Mainly red for his +atk for haymaker

[uncut vessel]

I just realised. This can max out defenses after one Sync Move.

[bronze dragon]

I think sunburst is useless for him

The only reason to want sun so early is to buff crit... Which you are already doing with crit squad

[merry onyx]

He could always do that

[echo crypt]

funny little bug in pomatools I just noticed when looking at SS Acerola, well, not a bug and more a text mistake I guess?

[clever thorn]

Oh dang I’ve gotten very lucky then

[lament plaza]

Preliminary wise, where would you put the new pairs on the tier list? Silver and the Hisui pairs look really really really good

Not too sure about Eusine

[bronze dragon]

Eusine is very good, just... Boring and outclassed

[lament plaza]

I'm guessing even Archie is above Eusine?

[bronze dragon]

As a damage dealer eusine is much better

[primal wasp]

Adaman has some juicy utility nodes I would actually probably rather hit though like the Drought Extension

[bronze dragon]

His tank build is actually good

He's a good physical tank

You have 8 energy left in that grid

[primal wasp]

I honestly don't care much for Haymaker when it's so out of it's way but that might just be wanting to get Critical Strike 2

If I remove the +25 Sync Power, I can go Drought Extension and another B Move PU

[placid heart]

Can’t you do smth like this

If not grabbing drought alert

[primal wasp]

This is a funny Grid for Tanky but missing out on Haymaker so not sure if he still out Nukes SSErika

[placid heart]

Why crit confuse

[bronze dragon]

Mighty Physical Boost 9 is right there

[primal wasp]

Oopsie

Forgot about the B Move PU

There we go

[bronze dragon]

Now it's good

[primal wasp]

Solved it for me, thanks

[placid heart]

Yw

[primal wasp]

I assume Solar Flare 5 doesn't add too much to Adaman's modifers

[placid heart]

It’s just that haymaker is 100% whole solar flare is 50%

[bronze dragon]

You can drop that quadrant for CS2 as Richu did, which is a small difference for sync but a noticeable boost for dps

[primal wasp]

For some reason I am still getting SSErika as out Nuking Adaman

Okay I got what was wrong

[copper verge]

Everything up-to-date with June datamine. Tier List coming soon
#1008010844547842079 message

[placid heart]

That was super fast

[copper verge]

Sometimes takes a few hours, sometimes a few days, sometimes a few weeks

Just depends on my time and motivation 😛

[clever thorn]

Common Spark W

[copper verge]

[sweet parcel]

thank you Spark

[short heron]

Archie simply does more

Biggest downside to archie sadly is he’s extremely fragile

When he released the stat downs weren’t so bad but…recently it’s a lot more noticeable especially when cleave damage happens

[merry onyx]

i think i ask here, correct me if i'm wrong

Whats the general consensus on ss morty after his expansion? I have 2 support candies and was thinking about bumping him up to 4/5, since 5/5 doesnt seem too worth it imo?

[sly fulcrum]

Reliable crit buffer

Depending who u use with could be worth i guess

[merry onyx]

usually use anni raihan and anni n as partners for him, to get funny sun stacked blue flares

[rotund talon]

speedy gonzales

[bronze dragon]

Sunburst is pointless, critical squad is useful for units like Serena or Leon

Endurance is nice but not worth a candy

SS Morty so bulky you probably won't make use of it

[merry onyx]

Lmao yeah

I'll throw a candy in for 4/5 then, thx

[sweet parcel]

Critical Squad makes me tempting, but idt 2 candies on him is worth it or not because im fine with 2/5

[zinc meadow]

That’s why I hate using him

[short heron]

I make him work because i love my villains

[zinc meadow]

Fair and based

[copper verge]

At 4/5 Crit squad is nice for guaranteed/faster max crit
At 5/5 Sunburst is nice for smoother/faster rotations

Adrenaline and Team Gimme Five at 3/5 are still the focus tbh. Higher lvl, none of the tiles are really mandatory / game-breaking but they are great QoL still so up to you.

[merry onyx]

Yeah I decided to candy for 4/5, i dont really think 5/5 is all too worth it

Ty tho

[copper verge]

[thick latch]

What I managed to work with, hope it helps people out!

You can also ditch Speeding Sun and go for Sunscreen 2 or Criticonfuse 9

Still experimenting with it

[austere mirage]

Is critical strike + Sync boost better than having haymaker?

[thick latch]

No idea yet, but my build has been working insanely well

I like CS2 better cause it also applies on the normal moves

[sweet parcel]

no

[thick latch]

Might try more builds later but for now this one will do for me. I love the idea of having the strongest Nuke of every type possible so I might convert him to Sync Nuke

[sweet parcel]

he is better focusing on sync nuke anw

his dps isnt too great compared to other Grass dmg dealers like Victor or SS Erika

[thick latch]

I haven't used these two at all so that's fair

I don't even think I have Victor at all, the only free 5* I don't own

[sweet parcel]

he is a PokeFair

[thick latch]

Ohh, always thought he was free. Thanks!

[sweet parcel]

[thick latch]

So yeah, I do got 1/5 Celebi, might candy it up at some point and use it more

[round yoke]

Sonething is wrong with the link to Acerola's Banette grid builds

it just gives blank builds.

Catalyst list seems to work at least.

...Huh, the others are working now.

[rose burrow]

I'm trying to build a 2/5 Cynthia and Garchomp for the new extreme battle and thought to use her with a sandstorm based team. Is Surging Sand 3 fine for her Lucky Skill or is it necessary to have it as Critical Strike 2?

[echo crypt]

Surging Sand doesn't apply to sync moves

CS2 does

[rose burrow]

That is good to know. Thank you!

[merry onyx]

her best lucky skill would ideally be weathered warrior 3

as that does count sand in her sync

[rose burrow]

I should really get myself those Lucky Cookies. Don't like how they're locked behind a single event but I completed the part 2 of the extreme battle by a smidge of HP. Thank you both!

[echo crypt]

well, the difference between CS2 and WW3 isn't as big of a deal so it's not the end of the world

[merry onyx]

[placid dust]

I really hate how they made Adaman and Irida's grids mix sync and dps nodes behind each other

I know adaman needed nerfs like that but why Irida

[sly fulcrum]

She's not doing big dps anyways with icy wind

Her sync is ridiculously easy to set up too

[gentle sun]

Irida is more utility-focused than Adaman anyways

[sonic slate]

Which irida grid would probably be the best one for the ebe? Assuming I manage to get 3/5 on her when she comes

(Or 2/5 +candy)

Leaning toward summer Steven for the time being as a partner or ghetsis if that doesn’t work out.

Although my ghetsis doesn’t have powerup

(For ebe I’d prob just use whoever I can out of sinnoh with her tho, maybe ssr)

[sweet parcel]

nuke grid ofc

her dps isnt too great outside of B Ice Beam

[sonic slate]

just got 2/5 may after over a year and a half of being on 1/5

any other tiles i should take?

all i can think of is dire rain for some niche scenarios

[merry onyx]

hide and sync and muddy water pus

[placid dust]

Wow units used to give their main sync multiplier on 2/5 sometimes? Imagine a gacha unit now doing that

[clever thorn]

OG Steven has Haymaker at 1/5

[sonic slate]

I’m still surprised by 1:5 invigorating hail on irida

Not used to seeing a 1:5 grid being a 50% mult or even 30%

[gentle sun]

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one

[sonic slate]

Yeah esp since she got stuck with icy wind

[gentle sun]

Not that big of a deal when B Ice Beam has the same base power as her non-EX Sync

[sonic slate]

True. Speaking of, how good is her 1:5 nukes? I assume you’d use one on mid and one on side if it’s good enough

[gentle sun]

Should be fairly strong since B Ice Beam will benefit both from her innate passive and Invigorating Hail and her Sync has an extremely easy to set up innate modifier

Just need Hail to be active

Stack Zone on top of that, and she should be hitting fairly hard

[placid dust]

Well according to the stat crunches they think her dps sucks regardless

[bronze dragon]

It doesn't suck it's just "good"

[clever thorn]

Even if her DPS is just “good”, Spirit, SpDef drops, and SSOH will help her allies out

[fair saffron]

I know it’s not make or break

But is pryce better with weathered warrior or cs2

Same with SS Brock

Just lucky skilling all my pairs that haven’t been done yet

[gentle sun]

No reason to give Lucky Skills if you’re not using the pairs given how RNG it is

[fair saffron]

I’ve been playing since 0.5 anni so I basically have enough to lucky all my pairs 😂

Just was always too lazy

[clever thorn]

How many do you have?

[gentle sun]

Well if you’re dead set on giving Lucky Skills to all your pairs just give Pryce/Brock CS2 if you aren’t planning to use them, given how much less common/accessible Deluxe cookies are

[fair saffron]

Yeah nvm just used 400 2* cookies and didn’t get CS 2

They should create a pity for skills

[bronze dragon]

Just farm 3* cookies in LG

SS Brock is directly better along master passive supports than weather supports

SS acerola can be the exception

[fair saffron]

Been farming! Only need 27/228 left to lucky skill

Where we thinkin Eusine and SS Silver will be on the tier list?

[sweet parcel]

#916852389347196958 for tierlist discussion

[latent warren]

how should adaman sync grid look like at 1/5

[sweet parcel]

There is no 1/5 grid since you can pick all tiles

If you are new, dont grid him atm

[fading gulch]

what should lodge silver focus on for his grid

im thinking he1 for the 40% freeze chance

and enfeeble

[merry onyx]

eh, you wanna focus him as a water nuker/dps

if you're using ice punch it's either for ice weak or to activate freeze syn or freezer burn

and even then there are other pairs who can do that better like ghetsis

[fading gulch]

hmm wouldnt lodge rosa unironically be a good pairing for him cuz you get guaranteed def drops for silver?

[latent warren]

im not, but i wanted to raise him

[merry onyx]

Yeah I use them together on the occasion

Since they both guarantee drop defense with liquidation (with extra oar1 on grid) and razor shell

[latent warren]

in any case i cant seem to find a good sync grid for him anywhere, at least for the leafeon one

[gentle sun]

There really isn’t anything worth getting at 1/5 for Adaman

[untold owl]

Adaman & Leafeon

<:GRID_SYNC:967786997982830712> __Sync Tiles:__

(3) Accelerating Time Razor Leaf: Power +25
(3) Accelerating Time Razor Leaf: Power +25

<:GRID_MOVE:967786997265629195> __Move Tiles:__

(2) Leaf Blade: Brawn Gain 2 - Has a chance (30%) of increasing the user's Physical Moves ↑ Next effect by 1 rank when its move is successful.
(2) Leaf Blade: Move Gauge Refresh 3 - Has a chance (40%) of charging the user's move gauge by one when a move is successful.
(2) No Time Like the Present!: MP Refresh 2 - Has a chance (30%) of restoring one MP of the user's move when that move is successful.
(2) No Time Like the Present!: Shielding Strikes 2 - Raises the user's Defense by 2 stat ranks when its move is successful.
(2) Synthesis: Master Healer 1 - Increases the amount of HP restored by the user's healing moves.

‎

(3) Synthesis: MP Refresh 2 - Has a chance (30%) of restoring one MP of the user's move when that move is successful.
(3) Synthesis: Mighty Physical Boost 9 - Increases the user's Physical Moves ↑ Next effect by 2 ranks when its move is successful.

<:GRID_PASSIVE:967786997215264808> __Passive Tiles:__

(1) Headstrong - Attack cannot be lowered.

‎

(2) Criticonfuse 9 - Leaves the target confused when the user's move is a critical hit.
(2) Insult to Injury - The more the target's Defense is lowered, the more it powers up the user's moves.
(2) Solar Shield - Status conditions cannot be inflicted on the user when the weather is sunny.
(2) Speeding Sun 2 - Quickly charges the move gauge when the weather is sunny.
(2) Sunscreen 2 - Reduces damage when the user is hit by an attack move while the weather is sunny.

‎

(3) Critical Strike 2 - Powers up the user's attacks when they become critical hits.
(3) Drought Alert 5 - Extends the duration of sunny weather when the weather turns sunny while the user is on the field.
(3) Enfeeble 2 - Lowers the Defense of all opposing sync pairs by 2 stat ranks when the user enters a battle.
(3) Haymaker - The more the user's Attack is raised, the more it powers up the user's sync move.
(3) Solar Flare 5 - Powers up the user's sync move when the weather is sunny.
(3) Sync Damage Guard - Applies the Damage Guard Next effect to the user the first time its sync move is used each battle.

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[fading gulch]

use the first grid for nuke

[bronze dragon]

He's asking for a 1/5 grid

If you aren't new you should know there's no builds for 1/5 grids

Pick everything

[fading gulch]

i dont see much point to 1/5 grids but if thats what they want then yeah ig

[bronze dragon]

It's free

[clever thorn]

If they’re new and don’t have many sync orbs it’s far from free

[bronze dragon]

They said they're not new...

[clever thorn]

Oops

+reading moment

[mystic forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855438548684374045/1069103333429747752/image-2.png

[sweet parcel]

So just pick anything

[fossil dock]

So, would love your opinion guys: what do you think of this grid?

Granted, you miss out on Haymaker, but in general I think I prefer sets that help damage of regular moves over a sync move…

[sweet parcel]

its okay if you go for fully dps route to let other Grass dmg dealers sync. But investing in dps route is not worth it because he has the best Grass sync

[fossil dock]

I feel like with this set though you almost don’t need the sync with Haymaker as he’ll be hitting very hard as is. That being said, perhaps I can make a sync nuke grid as a secondary grid….but tbh I don’t see myself using it very much

[copper verge]

Just build grids you think you'll use

[bronze dragon]

You could just pick solar flare 5 instead of speeding sun 2 and he'd be generic

[copper verge]

Yours is a perfectly fine non-nuke one, if you literally only use him this way that's fine

Well might as well use preset feature in that case

[bronze dragon]

SF5 + CS2 and rebuffs is a very good sync, it's sure crit too. He has permanent freebies so you shouldn't need help in gauge

[copper verge]

Adaman is busted without any tiles picked tbh so yeah lel

[fossil dock]

Yeah, that’s my plan. Speeding Sun doesn’t really offer a lot of benefit since Leafeon will almost always be able to attack with a free move

[fossil dock]

Adaman and Irida are both pretty solid. They are both pretty good for immediate use, but they both want 3/5 as well

[fossil dock]

It’s just depending on the fight (especially co-op) you don’t even get to your sync move and I’d rather have multiple normal attacks that are buffed than one single attack that is really buffed. Besides, with the defense drops and attack stat maxed and the sync move relying on the attack stat, it’ll still hit plenty hard anyway imo

I kinda feel the same about Irida’s grid as well. But, eh, that’s just my take. I was just curious as to which opinion was more popular around here

[fossil dock]

Would I be right in guessing that Glaceon and Leafeon want Weathered Warrior 3 over CS2?

[clever thorn]

Generally yes
I think Adaman wouldn’t have sun up for his sync without another setter/drought alert tho, much like Silver or SSA Cyn

[sonic slate]

Is the main thing for mays 3:5 grid the sync bp nodes because of mega? In terms of stuff not had at 2:5
I already use ss Serena for ground stages so

Also what makes ssn higher move levels such a big deal, since he’s on the 4:5+ list of +candy and might grab him if July is dead enough

[bronze dragon]

Peak Rediness 9

It's a 40% damage boost and his only way to buff his dps

[open halo]

its ideal to have adaman sync grid to haymaker+cs2?

if main damage?

[sweet parcel]

If you want to focus on sync, Haymaker + SF5

Otherwise Haymaker + CS2 if you want some boost in dps

[open halo]

ignore the cs2?

[sweet parcel]

You cant pick all Haymaker, SF5 and CS2

[open halo]

which is better?

[sweet parcel]

Haymaker and SF5 makes sync stronger than Haymaker+ CS2

How about making 2 presets ?

[open halo]

is SF have recoil?

[sweet parcel]

No?

[open halo]

will do sf5 and haymaker then for better nuking maybe.

since i cant depend on Razor leaf.

in long run.

[copper verge]

I disagree for Adaman, 3/5 is basically more dmg which, as you mentioned right after, he doesn't need as it already hit pretty hard lol. At least for the content we're facing it's mostly overkill.

Irida however gets ton of utility option at 3/5, so yeah I can agree that she wants it. Once again though, both very good at base anyways.

[fossil dock]

Yeah, that sums up what I was thinking pretty nicely actually. Irida really benefits from 3/5, but Adaman likes 3/5 for extra damage mostly.

[fossil dock]

Adaman does have a drought alert tile that can help with that, but I digress. It would seem as long as you can keep a weather condition on the field that they prefer Weather Warrior over CS2. Just wondering if there is a reason to run CS2 over WW3 at this point is all

I imagine WW3 will do more damage overall in this case

[bronze dragon]

It's simply a stronger version of it

[fossil dock]

So really no reason to run CS2 on them then when WW3 is an option?

[bronze dragon]

Yep

[fossil dock]

I’ll give it a shot then. I have more than enough 3-star deluxe candies to make that happen

[bronze dragon]

This gauntlet's cookies are WW3

[fossil dock]

I had 100 3-star deluxe cookies, so I decided to use those. I want to save the guaranteed ones for when I really need them

And honestly, I’m thinking Groudon/Kyogre may want those too

Maybe Raihan/Flygon as well

[merry onyx]

if someone here does happen to get 5/5 ssilver; please record a showcase of the 'strike x4' build i just made

[bronze dragon]

Not him

Anni Raihan first wants HS1, and if you were to give him a damage lucky skill, it would be CS2 because it buffs max moves too

[fossil dock]

Ah, forgot about Max Moves…well I think Archie/Maxie will want it anyway

[mint orchid]

Is this a good grid for Brendan as a general csmm support

[fading gulch]

yeah

[keen bridge]

Which sync grid is optimal for when Red isn’t my main nuker

[placid heart]

Idk smth like this replace sync tile with smth else

[copper verge]

When working-off a Sync nuke build and not wanting to Sync with the pairs, just grab the pomatools, remove all the Sync related tiles (multiplier and +25 tiles) and then seek for what might be useful to you (and/or the main move BP nodes to fill out the grid), honestly that's pretty much it. I often have one preset like this on Sync nukers for scenario where I don't plan to Sync

[placid heart]

Same lel

But k feel it also leads to strange looking grids to others lel

[sonic slate]

I decided to candy redlax to 3:5 since I’ll have another candy or two by time I get a new support anyways

This grid look fine?

Saw he gained adrenaline and a few other things like flag

[fading gulch]

personally i use this

[violet yacht]

Where should i start?

[sweet parcel]

Please click on this link. Since your Sycamore doesnt have power boost

[violet yacht]

This is hop…

[violet yacht]

Whats that

[sweet parcel]

No need to ping

[violet yacht]

Mb

[sweet parcel]

Go to the sync grid doc, find Hop & Zamazenta grids, click on these links, and copy the grids

[violet yacht]

Ok thx

Wheres the doc

[sweet parcel]

You can make up to 4 grid presets, so change between them depends on your needs and/or stage gimmicks

#1009587872342478908 pins

[violet yacht]

Thx

[sweet parcel]

Literally the doc you got access earlier...

[violet yacht]

I selected it and it didnt show me the grid

[sweet parcel]

Did you click on these links?

click

[violet yacht]

Yes

[sweet parcel]

Thats strange, it should redirect you to sync grid site

[violet yacht]

Look

[sweet parcel]

Just close the pop up menu

[soft night]

Tap x on the information and help notice on the PomaTools site

[violet yacht]

Oh

[soft night]

Alternatively you can view the links in #bot-zone by searching the sync pair.

[violet yacht]

Is this the one?

[sweet parcel]

Yes

[violet yacht]

So i just copy

[sweet parcel]

Basically

[sweet parcel]

Note this

[violet yacht]

Done

[fading gulch]

well if i were you id get adrenaline and the second mh1 node

[sweet parcel]

There are more alternative grids for him as well. Make more presets and copy these grids

[violet yacht]

And this for sycamore

[sweet parcel]

Also dont copy the "minimal" grids

[fading gulch]

you cant do that

you dont have his power boost

[violet yacht]

Whats that

[fading gulch]

its from a villain arc event

[sweet parcel]

You dont have his power boost, so copy the links without his power boost

[violet yacht]

Oh

Bet

[fading gulch]

basically what im saying is that you cant get the 4 tiles on the side

[sweet parcel]

In his case PB gives him additional tiles

[violet yacht]

This then?

[sweet parcel]

Yes

You should copy other Sycamore's grids as well

The ones without PB

[violet yacht]

Where do i see that

[sweet parcel]

Just go back to the doc

[violet yacht]

Its the ones next to the +?

[keen bridge]

Certain lucky skill for eggmon shiny tech ninetales?

[placid heart]

Vigilance/def crush/mind games/MGR

[stark berry]

I gave mine headstart 1

Speedy entry 2 could be also an option

However i gave most tech eggmons vigilance so they don't die in gauntlet from guaranteed crit AOE attacks

[bronze dragon]

Not recommended to use deluxe lucky cookies on eggmons

Unless it's your Fav pokemon or idk WW3 for egg gyarados

[latent warren]

hey, what should my sync grid for new year lisia look like

mine's 2/5

[placid heart]

I’m sure there’s something in the doc 2/5 Lisia

[crystal bay]

Is Lana better with Defense Crush 2 or Wise entry 2?

[bronze dragon]

She is flexible in that regard (mainly because she doesn't make much use of any) but I prefer wise entry 2

It lets her tank anywhere

[crystal bay]

Ok.

[sweet parcel]

check the pins

[old niche]

Hi guys. SS Silver or Adaman 3/5?

Who would get the better benefit?

[copper verge]

Imo SS Silver.
Adaman is already pretty broken at base

[sly fulcrum]

And u get pinpoint entry so u don't need to run an accuracy support

[foggy urchin]

Does anyone have a bullet seed grid for Brendan

[fading gulch]

why arent you taking charging sun

staggering 1 is a 20% proc which sucks tbh

[gentle sun]

Bullet Seed MGR is basically worthless

It's a 2-gauge move

It can probably be optimized further, but if you really want to switch to a Bullet Seed grid this is something

[sweet parcel]

Atk+10 is basically next to sync tile lol

[gentle sun]

I personally don't recommend trying to shoehorn Brendan onto Bullet Seed though

[merry onyx]

it's too inconsistent

[fading gulch]

more like without no quarter and like at least 50% damage buff its losing to dauntless leaf storm

[placid heart]

Not for gauntlet

[dawn cape]

Lol

[foggy urchin]

Is this grid ok?

[gentle sun]

I would personally argue that you can do without the Mini Potion All tiles, or at least the MP Refresh one

Depending on the situation and if you’re doing 1st Sync with her you may not need any of the MP Refreshes

[icy raven]

Mines

[gentle sun]

Brisk Bulwark is way more valuable than Spiky Shield MP Refresh

If you’re gonna use that move at all it’s borderline required, in fact

[icy raven]

Don't see the benefits in my opinion because it's only 1 time per fight

[bronze dragon]

She recovers MP on sync, no need for tm mpr

If you want to pick Spiky Shield mpr2, pick team Def posture physical 9 right next to it

Brisk bulwark 9 is for CS

[placid dust]

Yeah Sceptile only relevant for LG now, so imo sync nuke with 20% flinch and no dps modifiers is the best option

[gentle sun]

An LG grid should be marked as such, loads of people still use Brendan for general content

[elfin crypt]

Brendan relegated to LG only is one of the hottest takes around LMAO

[bronze dragon]

The main thing he got is a stronger sync, which is more noticeable in CS

[sweet parcel]

@copper verge the grid in Sync Nuke and Sync Nuke / Utility link of OG Grimsley got messed up

[merry onyx]

Yeah I was gonna point that out felt weird the nuke build didnt take either sync tiles

[copper verge]

Noted I'll check on this later, thx

[cloud crane]

Was thinking of a Karen Houndoom Bite only grid but am not sure to go with crisis countdown or toxic chance dirty fighting

Tried them both

[clever thorn]

Probably take Critical Countdown, since if you get a flinch and the sync accel, you get a free turn ahead (but it does take a ton of energy)

[cloud crane]

Yeah. True that

[clever thorn]

Toxic Chance is only good if an ally benefits from it

[cloud crane]

I liked that more even though the toxic thing had higher damage chances in many cases

[bronze dragon]

In a Karen Bite grid you have plenty of energy to pick all Crisis Countdown 2, Toxic Chance 4 and Aggravation 1

[fading gulch]

you mean critical countdown right

[bronze dragon]

Yeah my bad Critical Countdown

[placid dust]

If you are a day 1 player then he is absolutely not a top 3 attacker for a Grass roster

[gentle sun]

I mean, I’m a day 1 player and technically I think he’s exactly #3 for me since I’ve skipped most of the limited Grass damage-dealers

[bronze dragon]

Having Brendan accessible as a day 1 player is a reason itself to skip the other grass damage dealers

[icy raven]

When did this happened? 😳
I wonder why they never gave him EX aswell.

[clever thorn]

March 25th, 2023

[elfin crypt]

… and why does that make him only suited for LG? It doesn’t matter how many more units are better than him if he still clears content

[placid dust]

Well I always tell myself I will use lesser used units as a switch up for CS but it doesn't seem to happen much because I'm lazy

[icy raven]

When are they going to give Blue and Pigeot a Accuracy, Evasion, Crit, and or Rain Nuke?

[merry onyx]

dont give him a rain nuke 😭

he already raises accuracy… dont be out here giving him unnecessary shower power

[icy raven]

Was not asking for all three. Just great Nuke. The dude needs it's. O shoot. Forgot Double Down 5 and 9. Really a off type Nuke. The dude needs it. He's my only Flying Nuke I got. They shafted him and not give him a Nuke at all and has his base Nuke stats at 192 😭

[icy raven]

Barely won with this team because of Evasion at the end of the fight. FYI, Morty is for move gauge acceleration.

[merry onyx]

i figured but still, he shouldnt get a rain multiplier when he already has accuracy buffs

i could see him getting locked on sync and maybe blind spot

[icy raven]

I probably should not have asked for accuracy and Evasion Nuke seeing that it's only 1 Stat up each instead of 2 each. Most definitely a High Crit Nuke, Rain Nuke, then maybe Double Down 5, or 9. I say rain Nuke because of Hurricane never misses in Rain.

[merry onyx]

but he already buffs his accuracy…

[bronze dragon]

+3 accuracy makes it 100 accuracy

[merry onyx]

with crit in the same move no less

yeah

[bronze dragon]

Which he can easily get by entry and 1 tm

Don't give him ontype locked multipliers...

He can get multipliers that are only requiring 1 stat rank buff like mentioned above, locked on sync

Powerboost tend to make it easier to use so I wouldn't be surprised to see brainpower or critical strike/critastrophe

[merry onyx]

inb4 he gets cs9 on air cutter

because why not

[icy raven]

I think I went with special attack mpr and used rain for 100%
Woops. 😅 he does not have one

[sweet parcel]

doesnt he need accuracy for multiplier?

[placid heart]

May with SSMorty conflicting weather my beloved

[icy raven]

Morty is just for move Gauge acceleration with potion

[placid heart]

then use a different support E

[icy raven]

All I use in another set team

[placid heart]

skyla or ssb wouldve fufilled almost the same role

[icy raven]

Yes, for Brutal Clarity. (Whish it was plus 2 esch though)

[icy raven]

Wait, so with plus 3 Accuracy. I don't need rain at all 🤔

[gentle sun]

You at least have Kahili

[sweet parcel]

thats the point

[gentle sun]

And I’d be surprised if you didn’t have Darach

[merry onyx]

preferably you want to max accuracy for brutal clarity

but yes +3 is enough for hurricane to not miss

rain is redundant

[icy raven]

You talking a about Starptor 🤔
If so, I don't see how he fits.

[gentle sun]

Darach has a very strong Sync nuke

[clever thorn]

You stated you had no flying nuker, and darach is one of the best around

[sweet parcel]

Lodge Serena erasure

[gentle sun]

Heck, Nate has at least a passable Sync nuke if you’re dead set on Strike EX

[icy raven]

Oh, I don't use tech as nukes at all. Mhm.....except for Deoxys 😅

[gentle sun]

Techs are kinda the Sync nuke role, so definitely should be considered

But like I said, even if it's Strike EX or bust Nate has at least a passable Sync nuke at 3/5

[icy raven]

NATE out DPS blue with Pegiot 😱

[placid heart]

thats not what they said

[gentle sun]

I said nothing about regular moves

And Blue is definitely stronger than Nate when it comes to regular moves

[placid heart]

theres also kahili for a nuker who is stronger than nate

[gentle sun]

I already mentioned Kahili, I only brought up Nate in case it was a "Strike EX or bust" situation since Kahili doesn't have EX yet

[placid heart]

o didnt notice

[icy raven]

I was talking a about all together. Nuke and normal attacks. I swear when he came out people on YouTube was laughing at him

[gentle sun]

The differences are so vast in Sync nuke vs. regular move damage that they're very close to equal, since Nate completely screws up Sync countdown in order to even approach Blue's Hurricane

[icy raven]

What you mean by "Screw up Sync countdown" 🤔

[gentle sun]

Fly is a 2-turn move

The 2nd turn does not tick the Sync counter

So Fly screws up Sync countdown

[icy raven]

Oh, I don't use 2 turns moves at all. Mhm....exept for morty 😅 Let me make sure.....Yup, I grided him with Aerial Ace.

[gentle sun]

Then Nate doesn't even begin to approach Blue in terms of regular move damage

[icy raven]

So, blue us still the way to go then 🤔
They should have gave Nate Haymaker instead. Just saying....

[gentle sun]

Assuming you don't run a Brave Bird Darach build or have A. Steven, Blue would be one of the best options for regular move damage, yes. For Sync nuke there are multiple much stronger options

SS Ethan and Holiday Skyla are other alternatives for Flying damage-dealers if you happen to have them

[icy raven]

@proven copper
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/2100/1800?s=3&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFERQVGBoeIiQoKy0uLw
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/14802/25001?s=2&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBggLDQ8RExYXGhwfJSg
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/14003/5300?s=3&l=140&r=4&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBggRExYXGBocHyEmKCst

[gentle sun]

What even is this for

[icy raven]

He/She ask for my grids because I am getting on shot on R1 CSMM. On his F2P Video. He does not get on shot

[clever thorn]

Are you using the same params?

[icy raven]

@proven copper
The Video does not show all his Parameters
The Parameters I am using is
Physical Dmg. Reduction
Defense & Sp. Def 1
Strength 1
No Stat Reduction
Physical Damage Reduction 8
Gradual Healing at Start
Strength 2
Max HP 4
Strength 3
Standard Damage Reduction 8
Strength 6

[clever thorn]

It shows the params at 3:19 of Memoschprehen’s video

[gentle sun]

I have to ask, why are you even trying to do an f2p run? You almost certainly have plenty of non-f2p options

Actually, you’re not doing an f2p run anyways, so why even bother trying to use Blue when you probably have better options?

[icy raven]

For flying type. I have Nate and Blue. I already passed it while back using thegamingeevee version on R2. I am currently stuck in R5 fighting type.

[gentle sun]

No Darach?

[icy raven]

Yes, I have Darach. 😮‍💨
I don't use tech as DPS unless it's Deoxys.

[gentle sun]

Why?

Techs are a sliding scale of damage and utility, a significant portion of Techs are basically damage-dealers with bells and whistles

[icy raven]

Why you say. LoL
In short. Don't like DPS tech without AOE.

[gentle sun]

Damage-dealer =/= Sync nuke

Strike EX isn’t even required anyways

A team of Darach + Kahili + an Attack/crit Support will outperform a solo damage-dealer Blue everytime

Unless the stage has Sentry Entry x2

[icy raven]

Is this even doable 🤔
Big LoL

[gentle sun]

I would legitimately recommend off-typing over using Wulfric if he’s not a favorite

If you do insist on using him there’s better grids

Since Avalanche is…not great, to say the least

[fading gulch]

avalanche is metal burst but shit

just focus on his sync

[sweet parcel]

They wanted to make Wulfric work but didnt bother picking multipliers

[gentle sun]

If you had to use Wulfric something like this where he’s alongside a proper damage-dealer is among his better options:

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/2200/71300?s=5&l=140&r=3&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBgcJDA0OEBEUFxooKw

Invigorating Hail can be replaced with other stuff if he’s not under Hail

[icy raven]

Y0, I can't even test it on CO-OP. I keep getting people with the new ice tech. LoL

[gentle sun]

I mean, that grid is literally only for if you have to use Wulfric due to losing a bet or something

[clever thorn]

Connect with friends and start the battle and you’ll get paired up with NPCs

[gentle sun]

Like I said, unless Wulfric is a favorite you’d be better off doing off-type, his damage is unfortunately extremely low

[icy raven]

2.2K Damage lol

[gentle sun]

I fail to see the comedy in this situation

Ah

And therein lies the reason I say off-type is a better plan unless Wulfric’s a favorite

[icy raven]

He needs a Kris type buff with EX, tomorrow hopefully

[placid heart]

he needs peak readiness and too prepared to be semi competent

[icy raven]

What do they do?

[fading gulch]

so you want him to be ss n but still shit

[merry onyx]

just use ss n lol

or, even better off: don't use wulfric (unless your name is zinfogel then you make it work)

[placid heart]

or your name is tai

[icy raven]

I say give him Haymaker & Super Powered 5
Same thing that Kris has, then use with an EX support. Should be nuking like kris

[gentle sun]

Just slapping Towering Force or Haymaker on him would probably do enough to make him properly usable as a damage-dealer. Not much of a reason to even bother with his regular moves unless they wanna make him super gimmicky

[fading gulch]

-8 countdown when he goes into a counterattacking position

[icy raven]

-8 what?

[gentle sun]

Sync Countdown. It’s a joke suggestion that he’d ready Sync Move immediately when using Avalanche

[icy raven]

After every avalanche?

[gentle sun]

Idk, it was a joke suggestion that they made

I wouldn’t put much thought into it

[icy raven]

Wouldn't that do the same thing as giving him stronger Nuke

[gentle sun]

No, because a stronger nuke would actually improve his damage

This would offer him an absurd amount of utility

[icy raven]

Don't know if it's the right place to put this. But I didn't know firs aid 6 was a thing

[bronze dragon]

Well this is a helping channel

Don't know what help or comment do you expect from discovering First Aid 6

[zinc meadow]

Reading base kits are certainly helpful

[shrewd sparrow]

reading is helpful

highly suggested, as some would say

[echo crypt]

challenge: impossible

[mystic forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855438548684374045/1069103333429747752/image-2.png

[elfin crypt]

Wulfric was sort of ok as a flinch bot but yeah

Wasn’t the worst unit I had to drag along to the hall of fame though, that was Brycen

[jolly thicket]

Imagine reading

[soft night]

I recently watched Zinfogel use Hala as the primary target, since he had that heal. Was an interesting choice.

[icy raven]

On Marine ?

[soft night]

https://youtu.be/qE6iwP5Vyhw?t=768

[foggy urchin]

Should I get head start on blue's grid

Or does he not need it

[gentle sun]

Since Blue's getting extra grid tiles this month here's a quick-n-dirty grid for him making use of the new tiles, Head Start and Trainer Move Ramp Up can be swapped out for other stuff depending on the team

There's probably room for optimization

[fading gulch]

no ppe?

[gentle sun]

You could definitely grab that instead of the left side new tiles if you wanted

I made that under the assumption his Trainer Move combined with Supports would handle his accuracy needs

[icy raven]

Finally, what date though?

[gentle sun]

25th

[icy raven]

Of next month? 😱
Wow, these as holes game him power Flux Sync. 😡

[gentle sun]

July 25th

[icy raven]

I wish they just simply put the Nuke in his dam Mega Passive

[gentle sun]

And Sync Power Flux combined with Brain Sync 5 is ~116% damage modifier when gauge is only 4 bars. That’s a similar modifier and similar attacking stat as Steven before he got Tough Sync, and Steven’s always been considered to have a solid Sync

So since Blue’s grid was honestly kinda all over the place it’s a fine upgrade

[merry onyx]

Blue would actually outnuke steven im pretty sure

Since he can pick up all 4 sync tiles and has a higher sp atk at ex 20/20

While steven has slightly less atk compared to blue's sp atk with only 2 sync tiles

[icy raven]

Did they change the values of his TM to +2 each 🤔

[gentle sun]

No

The only change is extra grid tiles

[icy raven]

What's your Summer Liza choice 🤔

[gentle sun]

This is an extremely quick thing (literally just threw it together) to try and get a lot of damage modifiers, there's a lot of customizability depending on what you may want out of her kit

It may be possible to optimize that some more and adjustments could be made if you wanted something like Piercing Gaze

[fading gulch]

that second protect tile is in such a bad spot

[icy raven]

So your not going to use her TM then 🤔
B4 Sync I mean or are you doing it after support sync

[sweet parcel]

[icy raven]

Her TM Max crit

[fading gulch]

why would you not use her tm

[icy raven]

I am asking based on the grid

[fading gulch]

because she has one tile for her tm which is mpr which is a inconvenient to get to and b not really needed

[sweet parcel]

grid doesnt affect if she needs to click TM or not

your logic is questionable

[fading gulch]

^

[icy raven]

What. 3 moves then sync

[sweet parcel]

explaning to you is hard

[fading gulch]

iron defense once support buffs defense use tm to max atk and crit giga impact sync protect giga impact

its not complicated