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#Sync Grids
zinc meadow
shrewd sparrow
have you used the site in the past?
or how long was the last time you enter lol
that happens mostly when someone has a very old version of the site
zinc meadow
Usually a popup saying to update it will come up if it needs to be updated.
shrewd sparrow
yeah, but I added that feature later
placid heart
I assume that is their first time opening the app
shrewd sparrow
the site not loading may be because it has a very old version in cache
there's not even the loading thing haha
sweet parcel
1/5 is fine
weak shell
Sync grid for a 3/5 lysander ?
sweet parcel
echo crypt
imagine listening to advice you were told in another channel, look at the doc in the pins, second link
clever thorn
The one right here ^
weak shell
bronze dragon
No need to 5/5 lysandre right?
More like his grid is complete at 3/5
His grid expansion is unappealing
crystal tiger
Why is Heat Wave Scorching Touch 4 recommended on SS Lysandrs's grid?
shadow wadi
His innate burn chance isn't great
crystal tiger
Hostile Environment 3 doesn't make it near guaranteed?
shadow wadi
It's 10% innate, HE3 only bumps it up to 40%. And aoe reduction drops it to 20%. Per target.
So you'll have 0.8% of burning all three targets
crystal tiger
Oh, I was thinking of using Steam Eruption. But now that you say that, I assume that's a terrible decision
shadow wadi
Well, it's simply slower
crystal tiger
I'm assuming it's slower but not better than HWST
shadow wadi
Define "better"
With ST you click Heat wave once, burn everyone, get your multipliers + full boost from b-move
crystal tiger
Better chance of burning 
shadow wadi
You have to click it three times. If you click Heat Wave three times, it has much better burn rate with ST
crystal tiger
Ah
bronze dragon
Why is Heat Wave Scorching Touch 4 recommended on SS Lysandrs's grid?
Imo it's better to use steam eruption and forget about heat wave
Burn 2 targets and call it a day
Heat wave can still miss the burn chance and suddenly you've lost 2 turns using the weak move
And that's speaking in a 3v3, if it's 3v1 then more of a reason to use steam eruption
Add to that the energy investment it requires to go scorching touch 4 route
The only scenario where I can see it viable is if you don't want to sync with him
primal wasp
Going to get 5/5 SS Lysandre for sure, although the Burn Down Tile feels a bit redundant when I am running him with Frogs
Might just stick with the B Hydro Bump Build
placid heart
Why 5/5 other than the 10% damage increase he has everythomh he wamts at 3/5
remote path
Weather Warrior 3 or Critical Strike 2 on SS Lys? one build only has rain idk
merry onyx
whichever you want
depends on the teams you'll run him in most
it really just boils down to "how many purple cookies would you be willing to use"
placid heart
I keep reading sslys as SSLyn or thinking "Lysithea" this is going to be pain for me
clever thorn
I generally only like giving 
for the utility lucky skills, people like lysandre don’t need the extra damage
soft night
is +6 BP better for SS Lysandre, or +20 Sp.ATK
Going for a B-Move grid.
^I'm guessing this applies, to 
B Hydro Pump's case
bronze dragon
is +6 BP better for SS Lysandre, or +20 Sp.ATK
Going for a B-Move grid.
It depends on how much you have before
To check just use pomatools and compare the 2 results
primal wasp
Why 5/5 other than the 10% damage increase he has everythomh he wamts at 3/5
I just think he’s neat and I want a giant ginger bf who towers over me so it makes sense to invest in him
But you are right
stark berry
I feel LySSander is fine at 1/5 (unlike Anabel)
stark berry
Every top tier striker are fine at 1/5
Cynthia is pretty terrible at 1/5
But pretty strong at 5/5 or even 3/5
gentle sun
5/5 really only matters for Cynthia in LG
echo crypt
news to me Cynthia is a top striker tho
sly fulcrum
that's why she's not top tier jk
stark berry
But 3/5 is still mandatory
gentle sun
And even then it’s just something that could potentially let you squeeze an extra run in
gentle sun
But 3/5 is still mandatory
She does really want 3/5, yeah
elfin crypt
4/5 gives dust kicker right?
fading gulch
i think thats 5/5 but i could be wrong
gentle sun
They are pretty much LG shenanigans
4/5 lets Slash actually be viable over Earthquake, but that’s never really been an issue, especially once Cynthia got her 3/5 Power Boost
fading gulch
well slash is a bit better with gauge but like i dont think it really matters
though slash dps is funny
bronze dragon
4/5 lets Slash actually be viable over Earthquake, but that’s never really been ...
Earthquake is stronger
Cynthia isn't a unit that struggles with gauge so I don't see slash being more viable unless fancy LG solo run
But yeah all this comes from top tier strikers being fine at 1/5, and Cynthia definitely isn't a top striker
rotund talon
is there any reason why the 3/5 anabel grid on the doc is this
and not this
i guess the extra stats are a bit more universal, but as a generalist grid i’d still argue for the latter, in that 10hp and 5 def doesn’t outvalue quick cure QOL.
also this is not a huge deal, but just curious
bronze dragon
Yeah yours is better polished
stark berry
still 4/5 and 5/5 seem like lg shit
Or if you don't have Excadrill, but you have Gigalith
But i guess acerola can kinda do the job
stuck compass
Qn is sslysandre really strong at 5/5? I see a lot of promising things in the grid
sweet parcel
not really
stark berry
Is strong even at 1/5
stuck compass
I like the reduction in spdef and atk
But I haven't even thought of pulling for a 1/5 because half anniv is arnd the corner
stark berry
I feel that is more useful for gauntlet
Master mode will get obliterated before he can make use of and debuff
stark berry
Super syncer 9
sweet parcel
he gets Super Syncer 9
stuck compass
True I guess it's kinda overkill atm
stuck compass
His buddymove alr does that anyway
stark berry
The only unit that wants 5/5 of this batch i think is Anabel
stark berry
1/5 is pretty bad
stuck compass
Yeah
stark berry
3/5 is ok but still crippled
4/5 is good for CS but still heavily crippled in gauntlet
stuck compass
Sadge 
stuck compass
Lol
bronze dragon
I like the reduction in spdef and atk
It's pointless because 3/5 build is killing enemies too fast to appreciate those debuffs
Especially with frogs
Both him and Emma are clear 3/5 and that's it
rotund talon
Yeah yours is better polished
cool, thought so. if anyone wants to give an editor for the doc a heads up, if it hasn’t been changed already
sly fulcrum
Finally someone that thinks a grid for themselves 
kindred stag
Qn is sslysandre really strong at 5/5? I see a lot of promising things in the gr...
Guaranteed stat drops on a striker is great
Because it means you dont have to waste your precious tech candies 
bronze dragon
Well no it's not sad lol
stuck idol
Hi guys what should I pick from xerneas expanded grid?
shadow wadi
You can adjust grid depending on what you need for specific stage.
Team Sharp Entry is likely to be often used though.
stark berry
I think all 4 tiles are useful (but depends on scenario) quick cure helps with flinches or confusion that can ruin the run (even trap to a lessen extent) freevenge 4 is helpful with gauges, beef up helps boosting horn leech faster and team sharp entry 1 helps if you don't bring +3 crit support
clever thorn
Because it means you dont have to waste your precious tech candies <:FlanneryBur...
Instead we waste our slightly less precious strike candies 
ashen bough
I'm using sycamore's horn leech grid but i think sharp entry would do fine for my new sycamore
But i have no places left unless i give up mpr on tm, and i kinda like it despite it being situational
So my question is, is it worth giving up mpr for sharp entry?
Or adrenaline for sharp entry?
Or skip sharp entry altogether and use it in another sycamore build?
shadow wadi
What do you need tm mpr for?
You can change grids for any stage anyway. Need TSE -> swap out mpr. Need tm mpr -> swap out something else
ashen bough
Yeah sounds good
ashen bough
What do you need tm mpr for?
I use sycamore primarily in villa. The mpr doesn't activate much but it's a boon when it does
shadow wadi
You click his TM in villa?
elfin crypt
You could switch sycamore out for boss fights with different supports haha
bronze dragon
For BV you can run gridless 
distant lark
Best grid for Sycamore in Extreme Battle?
quaint sleet
Best grid for Sycamore in Extreme Battle?
Check pins for the horn leech build
You'll need tm refresh
crude stag
What does + Impervious and
- Recuperation mean on sycamores sync grids
In the google docs
quaint sleet
In the google docs
It's additional tiles including the main role you're choosing
shadow wadi
What does + Impervious and
+ Recuperation mean on sycamores sync grids
You can click the links to see suggested grids
copper verge
i guess the extra stats are a bit more universal, but as a generalist grid i’d s...
I've adjusted this as I agree with you, highlighting the Quick Cure tile makes sense as you're not giving up anything else than extra stats 
Just missed that path I guess ^^
copper verge
Finally someone that thinks a grid for themselves <:BarryPogChamp:71817342619956...
Exactly how the doc is supposed to be used yeah, take the example and toy around with it, you might find something you like better or that is straight up more polished 
sly fulcrum
I only sometimes refer to the doc since I usually center my striker around a csmm team
rotund talon
I've adjusted this as I agree with you, highlighting the Quick Cure tile makes s...
yeah i assumed it was just a mishap, didn’t seem like a deliberate choice. it happens
amber tusk
Best antitoxin grid for calem EBE?
placid heart
That’s vague who are you referring too
amber tusk
Janine or BP Janine.
placid heart
Oh
merry onyx
This is what I used for BP janine
Team sharp entry isn't needed if your striker already maxes it and you could swap it with somethin else ig
crystal tiger
Is this a good Villa grid for Sycamore?
gentle sun
Why bother with Dazzling Gleam MGR?
Especially when you can get another Master Healer tile
crystal tiger
Gauges at the start of the Battle can be an issue
bronze dragon
Is this a good Villa grid for Sycamore?
With that team this already is a good grid for BV, pick whatever you like with the remaining energy
bronze dragon
sly fulcrum
Oh I ran the exact same team back then
Just run RB4 and whatever
Starting gauge u can barely squeeze out the DG so it's fine
Lillie runs RB9
Everything else is whatever
sly fulcrum
Just run RB4 and whatever
Actually u don't need a grid for sycamore now that I remember 
I remember running this for ethan
Start with whirlpool always
bronze dragon
Nit-picking but just pick piercing gaze instead of accuracy nodes
It serves for both moves and it's same energy cost
sly fulcrum
Yeah that's definitely better
crystal tiger
I remember running this for ethan
Ah, my Ethan is 1/5 
stark berry
Ah, my Ethan is 1/5 <:WulfricKEKW:725004521377497109>
Mine too, but still destroys flying weak
silent dragon
3/5 ethan is so fun probably my fav unit rn
civic solstice
<@924938135111102464>
thanks!
stuck compass
3/5 ethan is so fun probably my fav unit rn
Which Ethan?
If it's Lugia how do you use him? And with who
silent dragon
If it's Lugia how do you use him? And with who
been running a sync nuke build with him recently
its fun
why?
cunning fox
I don’t care if the grid would be good. I need to know. Would it be possible to pick up all of Tates entry passives in one grid
I really want to make a silly goofy mood grid where I just get to see his stupid sun rock plop onto stage and it’s stats rise the dawn
Wait
I think this is the best I can do
stark berry
Or this if you want sde5 instead
stuck compass
been running a sync nuke build with him recently
Ah cool. Who do u use em with?
silent dragon
Ah cool. Who do u use em with?
anni skyla and darach is what i ran him with last
elfin crypt
Do either LySSandre or Emma really want further copies or is 1/5 fine?
sweet parcel
1/5 is fine for both
echo crypt
remember need =/= want
elfin crypt
Aye
cunning fox
Or this if you want sde5 instead
Glorious thank you so much
Also how’d you turn up the contrast? It’s so much easier to see that way
stark berry
Also how’d you turn up the contrast? It’s so much easier to see that way
Select dark theme
cunning fox
I was on Dark theme. I turned on the “darken at energy limit”
stark berry
Ah yes, that darkens the unusable tiles when the grid is complete
old niche
Do we know when Gloria expansion is coming?
sweet parcel
1st March
opal sun
Currently have my Gloria have 3/5 and no plans to expand to 5/5, is this good or can you guys suggest some stuff to change?
sweet parcel
You can check the pins to compare yours vs suggested grid
opal sun
I already have the doc but it hasn't updated to reflect the new changes to Gloria & Zacian
opal sun
Hope I can still get the 2 MGRs in B-Blade with the grid, Zacian really eats a lot of Gauges
sweet parcel
In my experience Zacian is really gauge friendly
She has high speed + innate MGR4
I think only one MGR2 tile is enough
opal sun
I guess I have a different experience with her... I'll have those suggestions in mind
Thanks for the help and suggestions
umbral juniper
Hi people, 1 question:
When's elesa/zebstrika's expanded grid coming?
vivid yoke
Tomorrow
merry onyx
Is it now worth candying lance to 3/5?
merry onyx
I thought his sync was now on par with zerena's
vivid yoke
2/5 is all you need if you want to bring a support to buff him and spam hyper beam. 3/5 is for sync nuke. 5/5 is if you want his trainer move to be functional
id rather bring support ex and sync with them and spam hyper beam
merry onyx
Thats fair
vivid yoke
But its fine. I havent looked at the numbers. Im sure his sync is plenty strong if u wanna go that route
I know im making mine 2/5 for sure
merry onyx
Yeah same, i've had him 1/5 since i got him since his 3/5 grid was just so atrocious
I'm a huge dragonite fan
vivid yoke
I just need to decide if i'm using the free champion select on him to 2/5 or if id rather use it on c.iris to get her 4/5 and gamble that her future grid expansion is worth it
Tech candies are at a premium compared to strike candies for me
tired topaz
Lance grid is amazing btw, he went from being just ok, to being actually crazy, which was needed.
Anyway, asking this again since I got no answer yet, how good is the 3/5 anabel grid in the doc?
spring belfry
Anyway, asking this again since I got no answer yet, how good is the 3/5 anabel ...
just general support
i go for 4/5 for the PMUN stacks as an incentive for all those extra effort to set her up
stuck compass
is it just me or does ball guy have a very nice grid?
Like even 2/5 is really nice
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/28200/59100?s=2&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFERMWFxobHB8gISMlJigr
merry onyx
Do we have a date for lance and gloria's grid expansions?
kindred stag
is it just me or does ball guy have a very nice grid?
yeah ball guy is goated
kindred stag
Do we have a date for lance and gloria's grid expansions?
the moment their banners rerun
stuck compass
the moment their banners rerun
when is lance's banner out
merry onyx
that is what i wanted to know yeah 
uncut vessel
Hey, uh, not to be "that guy", but when is Spark gonna update Kris and Feraligatr's Sync Grids?
quaint sleet
Hey, uh, not to be "that guy", but when is Spark gonna update Kris and Feraligat...
I'm pretty sure they've been updated long ago
stark berry
How good is the 3/5 one?
As good as the 2/5 one
Gloria got nothing new at 3/5
And her current grid doesn't have much at 3/5
The 2/5 tiles are pretty good
Sad thing that even at 5/5 play rough is still stuck at 90 accuracy
At least now she has sharp entry 1 at 2/5 so at least Aaron is a reliable crit+accuracy buffer for her
sly fulcrum
Honestly questioning myself how did my gloria got to 2/5... I probably wasted a candy on her back in the days
bronze dragon
Not wasted anymore 
stuck compass
Qn is it worth it to candy lance from 2->3/5 just for haymaker and that crit thingy on the right
merry onyx
it brings me great sadness how lance cant get all 6 sync tiles and haymaker
vivid yoke
When we get the champion ticket, I want some advice on what to pick. I have all 6 of the options already, so its a question of which one to get extra sync nodes
Cynthia 5/5, alder 4/5, c.iris 3/5, steven 2/5, diantha 1/5, and lance 1/5. Cynthia and Alder are not in question obviously.
The real decision for me is, do I pick Lance 2/5 because i know i want him at 2/5, or should I pick Iris 4/5 and gamble that her expansion in the future will be worth it
Striker candies are easier for me to spend, compared to tech candies
Which is really the only reason i ask. I know its hard to speculate on if iris 4/5+ will be worth it
silent dragon
When we get the champion ticket, I want some advice on what to pick. I have all ...
whats a champion ticket?
mb for the ping 🫡
is it free or buyable
sweet parcel
whats a champion ticket?
#poma-questions message
copper verge
When we get the champion ticket, I want some advice on what to pick. I have all ...
Your fav honestly. I'm sorry if it sounds like eluding the question but this is how the game is and it's great, you don't really need to focus on meta as content is pretty weak so what makes you happy is the most important
echo crypt
this tbh, like, I'm picking Alder (assuming he is confirmed present in there) solely to easily stop HB from missing lol
sly fulcrum
I'm picking diantha for collection
echo crypt
I want to blast people in the face happily and without lame misses!
copper verge
Yeah and as mentioned in the question, what candies you can afford also plays a role so there is no definite answer
echo crypt
that's some wild mistyping right there in the end
echo crypt
vivid yoke
Your fav honestly. I'm sorry if it sounds like eluding the question but this is ...
I literally like iris and lance equally
They are both "pretty neat" for me
copper verge
Then your case is relatively easy cause your iris doesn't change with an extra lvl while your lance gets a lot with it
So probably just pick it and enjoy your time
clever thorn
Assuming that iris will get a lot at 4/5 specifically is also a bit of a stretch
copper verge
It's more than a stretch, it's pure speculation and by that time you don't even know what state of the game, your account, your enjoyment etc..
fading gulch
honestly ciris’s base kit is still fine
she just needs like uh
the atk version of satisfied snarl
and she’d be nicer to use imo
cuz you’d have to dedicate yourself to one atk stat at a time
fading gulch
wait she does?
echo crypt
Breaking Swipe doesn't work for you?
copper verge
4/5 won't change anything atm
copper verge
Except a little extra BP which is whatever and doesn't deserve a scout
fading gulch
sorry if that wasnt clear
copper verge
Again speculation is worthless here
clever thorn
no i mean the passive
But why point out an attack version specifically and not a spatk version
fading gulch
But why point out an attack version specifically and not a spatk version
i mean yeah ideally she’d get both
but its just what came to mind first
copper verge
Play for today, maybe in one month you're not playing the game anymore or it is EoS
Pragmatic > hypothesis
distant lark
does anyone have bp janine antitoxin build?
placid heart
distant lark
thanks
placid heart
Ye
merry onyx
How worth it is TSE1 really on melony? Her tm already buffs +1 crit and all the grids in the doc pick up MPR for it so is it really worth all the energy it takes to go its route?
bronze dragon
Depends on your team
If you need her to give +3 spatk then just use TM MPR
If not, just pick TSE1
merry onyx
Ah gotcha
uncut vessel
Can't wait for the new Gloria and Zacian grids.
bronze dragon
It's pretty much this and pick whatever you like with remaining 7 energy
bronze dragon
Then what grid are you waiting for? 
3/5 is terrible
I guess the CS2 at 2/5 helps
uncut vessel
For Spark to update the 3/5 Grids.
bronze dragon
uncut vessel
Also, hypothetically speaking, if I were to run Leon as a Hurricane User, what grid should I run for him?
bronze dragon
Pick all Hurricane BP nodes and Burn Synergy 3
There's nothing else related to Hurricane
stark berry
It's pretty much this and pick whatever you like with remaining 7 energy
For on type I would pick super preparation instead of defense crush, 1st sync should clear the stage regardless if 6ex (or the mid if not)
bronze dragon
Yeah I just dont like ontype based skills
I dont think its smart to make units 5/5 just to massacre hard that 1/17th part of the content you already massacred
stark berry
Yes for offtype that grid is fine
However i don't think there's an universal grid
But for 5/5 i would say it depends if on type or offtype
bronze dragon
The grid I posted is universal
Super Preparation 9 is not universal
You can change Sharp Entry 1 if you need the energy and your team is giving you +3 crit anyways
tired topaz
@spring belfry your 4/5 anabel grid also has the infinite field stuff?
stuck compass
Torchic's grid feels rather meh. Anyone has a suggestion on what to use?
I was thinking of this but it's more for LG than anything else
bronze dragon
It's what you said, it's mainly a LG support grid
stuck compass
Ah
placid heart
Mchic isn’t bulky enough for 2K I think
stark berry
I was thinking of this but it's more for LG than anything else
Maybe quick tempo may be useful for MM
Maybe def and spdef +20 to increase bulk
The rest is gauntlet utility
bronze dragon
Quick Tempo kills your quad queue
stuck compass
I find quick tempo kinda bad imo, it starts too early for most teams. Catalytic is nuch better imo for csmm
clever thorn
It’s good if you plan to start attacking really early on
If you have adren or denial or whatever, quad queues are unnecessary
stark berry
Quick Tempo kills your quad queue
Gauge acceleration kills quad queue?
echo crypt
like any other field effect expiring right when you are about to sync
fading gulch
it lasts for 45 seconds meaning it expires right as you sync which means the enemy queues a move
echo crypt
it's the same reason you ideally shouldn't use a TM with MGA turn 1
unless whoever is going to sync has Adrenaline
stark berry
You could still extend MGA on turn 3
echo crypt
sure, if you have someone to do so in that particular team
stark berry
However if my support is ex i Don't care much about quad queue
I generally clear stages way before my second sync
At least for MM
fading gulch
it's the same reason you ideally shouldn't use a TM with MGA turn 1
but what about champ calem
thats a bit of a conundrum isnt it
stark berry
I feel like c calem is one of those units that really appreciate 3/5
fading gulch
he really does
echo crypt
you can also just wait until turn 2 to use his TM
stark berry
At least he will max crit at 3/5 if used as a general support
bronze dragon
Entry field effects run out at the time you usually sync, letting a time gap for opponent to queue
You need -2 or -3 countdown to balance
fading gulch
yeah i know why that stops quad queue im just saying i cant manage it atm because i only have one support candy
and idk if im so keen on using an omni candy on him
echo crypt
again, use his TM turn 2, you can attack turn 1 to advance the bmove unlock
bronze dragon
For Ch Calem it's not a problem, just TM turn 2
stark berry
I feel like supports are the ones that need their grids the most
fading gulch
for me its techs
literally every tech ive candied just felt underwhelming at base
diantha is like the first one that has a mostly coherent kit that doesnt miss anything besides even more nuke
oh and i guess ss steven
but i also really like having soften up
stark berry
SS Steven and dojo Gloria i think are the only techs that i have candied
And anni N too
stark berry
Wanted that pep rally on anni N
fading gulch
ssrc debuffing is so goddamn slow
without oar on shadow ball
and ss steven has soften up
like i mentioned
stark berry
I just use renegade Cynthia for DPS and ghost zone
fading gulch
yeah i do have lucian for spdef debuffs now
but i didnt have him when i first got her
stark berry
I'm thinking of giving candies to t bolt red
He's still op at 1/5 but at 3/5 will be busted
Ash is fine at 1/5, his b tbolt still obliterates anything
stark berry
and ss steven has soften up
Yes that was crucial for me
Plus furious brain was a nice multiplier
Only sad thing about his grid is that it lacks vigilance
Defense form would have loved vigilance on grid
Ok that i mostly use attack form and sometimes speed form
primal wasp
So what are the thoughts on Bede? Since he has Vig innately, I was wondering if it's an idea to give him Revenge Boost 4 or if that's less valuable than something like Head Start 1 since he might want to confuse the opponent
Maybe Impervious since that seems like a good strat too for a Tank
fading gulch
So what are the thoughts on Bede? Since he has Vig innately, I was wondering if ...
head start to access his b move faster imo
primal wasp
Currently what I have
primal wasp
Cool cool
I don't think Entry Freebie is what I want with a confusion Tank Build
Maybe if I changed it up to be focused on freeze instead
bronze dragon
So what are the thoughts on Bede? Since he has Vig innately, I was wondering if ...
Please don't give him RB4...
That's borderline a nerf
HS1 is the way to go, HH or an Immunity if you're going underdog
placid heart
Youd also only use confusion to prock another units multipliers and not for the chance of the enemy hitting themselves as most stages have lessen confusion 9
bronze dragon
Well Bede himself has other benefits from confusing opponent
Heals and gauge recovery
placid heart
I see
stark berry
I guess headstart 1 is probably the best
Guess i will start using deluxe lucky cookies until i will get a good skill
Healthy healing may be a decent option too
primal wasp
I wish I had any Deluxe Cookies but all I did was throw them at my SS Erika
clever thorn
10% extra damage (bit less actually) OP 
shadow wadi
10% extra damage (bit less actually) OP <:LucasFLOOSHED:778475360190464011>
aka 5/5ing pairs with 3/5 grids
fading gulch
cant wait for the feh crossover with edel
bronze dragon
~~playing to much fire emblem I’m forgetting Pokémon characters~~
I've seen things like this happen before fire emblem release
@shrewd sparrow in pomatools B Fiery Wrath is getting split as an aoe in calculator when selecting 3 targets
bronze dragon
sonic scroll
What’s sync grid expanded setup for sycamore?
sweet parcel
near jolt
Good grid? With status immunity lucky skill?
clever thorn
That would make sense
You could also grab propulsion and use hs1 as ls
near jolt
He looks like a fun unit
clever thorn
If only he wasn’t limited
rotund hatch
is it possible to get a zebstrika grid with ramspeed, standfast 9, brawn sync and all the other wild charge stuff?
placid heart
tired topaz
Infinite field on anabel is at 4/5 or 5/5?
bronze dragon
Check pomatools
ashen bough
Is it imperative to get all steadfast for roark?
stark berry
Infinite field on anabel is at 4/5 or 5/5?
5/5
tired topaz
Ok
stark berry
They hired EA devs for Anabel
signal saddle
near jolt
How does it give infinite field?
silent dragon
They hired EA devs for Anabel
😭
hidden dagger
Is there any grids that make use of Emma's 4/5 and 5/5 tiles?
hidden dagger
I see, thank you!
bronze dragon
That's the standard
placid heart
Alr
copper verge
All grids added/updated 
#1008010844547842079 message
stuck compass
Good grid? With status immunity lucky skill?
I go a very diff direction tbh
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/28200/59100?s=2&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFERMWFxobHB8gISMlJigr
This is what I'm planning for 2/5
sly fulcrum
@copper verge might want to remove vigilance from bede lucky skill since he alr has it in his kit 
clever thorn
Also ball guy has Head Start 2 as recommended LS (if only 
)
sly fulcrum
this is what happens if u rush for grids
echo crypt
I'd love another month of struggling because people refuse to make grids on their own
lament plaza
Curious to see where Hop and Marine place among the Ubers. Dunno what will happen to Bede tbh cause all great supports do the same thing: support lol
sly fulcrum
Will marnie be in Ubers tho
echo crypt
all 3 will likely be T0/Uber
cloud crane
Yeah probably
echo crypt
well, not likely, they are, where exactly is the thing to be seen
cloud crane
hop's competition is a bit more stiff but still seems top tier
stuck compass
Bede is definitely Uber
Is ball guy an Uber too
bronze dragon
stuck compass
Wait the heal isn't added to the rando effect?
Btw is there a list of the rando effects
stuck compass
Where tho, I think I missed it
bronze dragon
I think you didn't look #datamines
stuck compass
How else wud I know about ball guy 🤔
bronze dragon
Literally the first thing you see clicking the channel is Ball Guy's TM details
stuck compass
Thanks you could have said its a new post
echo crypt
well, doesn't hurt to just visit again and see
bronze dragon
So you didn't look 
stuck compass
I didn look at it after the 1st day of the datamine yes
cloud crane
Just overwhelmed enough by seeing ball guy
stuck compass
Ikr
cloud crane
Does he have an EX?
stuck compass
If master healer works on ball guy, wud it be a v good tile? Esp if it affects the mini pot and self miniheal
It's still v rng I guess
bronze dragon
It's a good tile, it affects both the base healing effect and the random one
cloud crane
no more Hau for f2p clears now
placid heart
Haus still better and in aoe meanwhile surge is just better with bigger hp bars
stuck compass
Is surge that good
placid heart
Without ETerrain not really
cloud crane
with the grid itself before the EX
bronze dragon
He's good for LG that get checked by paralysis
placid heart
Surge isn’t self sufficient has a semi low nuke and bad stats outside of Spd
So Ex won’t change a lot
That’s not impressive on any scales
vivid yoke
It sort of is if u squint, its about move levels
distant lark
any good ss erika 2/5 grids?
quaint sleet
any good ss erika 2/5 grids?
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/802/47000?s=2&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBgcICgsMHR4fISMlJyor
Basically whatever's available
copper verge
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lament plaza
Not a surprised considering their kit. Like holy moly. They're crazy.
signal saddle
Only Bede in highest subgroup?
stuck compass
how do you use zapdos at 1/5 vs 3/5
sly fulcrum
I'm guessing Bede is top 3
stuck compass
im thinking bede from 1->3/5 just gets extra bulk from heals etc?
stuck compass
im gg for 3/5 for marnie because of aggravation 2 but im not sure if its a good idea
signal saddle
From what ropalme mentions, Bede is higher than NCalem, so I guess top 2
CMarnie around SSteven, Chop around SS Diantha
stuck compass
whats the reduction for flinch chance on aoe
signal saddle
Half for 3 targets
stuck compass
From what ropalme mentions, Bede is higher than NCalem, so I guess top 2
CMarnie...
could you share why pls
sly fulcrum
Constant PMUN and SMUN, free moves team wide
Those are just the 2 powerful things in his kits
There's more obviously
signal saddle
Also sync accel
lament plaza
I don't think any of them are gonna overcome Ash, Morty, and Red. But they're all very close imo
signal saddle
Chop is pretty comparable to SS Diantha, zone setter that can debuff and nuke.
Idt Chop is close to Red at all, not sure if he's above Lyra even
stuck compass
Constant PMUN and SMUN, free moves team wide
sorry what provides free move next teamwide
sly fulcrum
His B move
signal saddle
His bmove
signal saddle
This is good summary about Bede
sly fulcrum
His B move and TM despite limited use gets refreshed each time a sync happens with his unique passive
I've been convinced to just go for 1/5 for everyone this datamine
Wish me luck
stuck compass
its quite cool that this is the 1st tm that costs 4 gauge
signal saddle
Also, he has very good sync accel, better than some supports in top subgroup afaik. I appreciate that a lot personally.
stuck compass
that's good for using with the b move that also gets refreshed?
signal saddle
Yeah
sly fulcrum
I still think marnie is a need 3/5 kinda
echo crypt
Bmove gives free move next, so his TM can be used "for free" after
signal saddle
Bede is least reliant on grid for sure, but idt Marnie needs 3/5
sly fulcrum
I guess it's not need but feels like it's a lot to miss out without 3/5
sly fulcrum
That juicy aggravation 2 tho
signal saddle
It's nice that she has bmove, so even without nuking, she can still clear sides
stuck compass
Bmove gives free move next, so his TM can be used "for free" after
is the TM considered a move that can regain an MP?
echo crypt
Yes
sly fulcrum
Oh also he has built in vigilance
stuck compass
i kinda like zapdos' catalytic kick but idk if i shld candy 2x just for that
sly fulcrum
So lucky skills is flex
signal saddle
Trainer "move" 
echo crypt
Basically it depends on the wording of a passive
Trainer's moves, pokemon's moves, user's moves. All 3 mean a different thing
stuck compass
ah user moves are everything the sync pair has
vernal slate
copper verge
Only Bede in highest subgroup? <:HilbertHmm:625860604347023360>
You can't really compete Ash and SST Red groups yeah, but they're more of an "anomaly" right 😅
copper verge
I still think marnie is a need 3/5 kinda
You never need Sync lvl when you're that busted at base really
sly fulcrum
Yeah I know no 3/5 is really needed
maybe I'm just bored of using SS cyrus always for dark
pale garnet
Once I get Iris to 3/5 I’m going to use the sync nuke with full boost grid. I was wondering what lucky skill would be best for her. Specifically want to use her in LG
cloud crane
Would personally say defense crush
The CS2 loss will be more or less compensated
And you will be furthering the stat drops for her innate nuke
pale garnet
Thank you!
primal wasp
I am looking into this as the Carnie Grid?
Wonder if she works with Cede
But I don't remember if Confusion can work with Flinching?
fickle surge
Wrong person
zinc meadow
@bronze dragon Mind helping this person out? 
bronze dragon
I saw a ping but deleted post so I don't know if they want my help 
fickle surge
I saw a ping but deleted post so I don't know if they want my help <:RileyHaHa:7...
Sorry I typed someone else but I wanted to ask you do you think I should change this nuke grid I have for her
Got her to 5/5 from the ticket still experimenting with the 5/5 tiles
bronze dragon
I wouldn't pick MGR4, she's fast, going to be speed buffed and 3 gauge move
I'd change that for an extra sync BP node, as she has low BP sync
Other than that the grid is good
fickle surge
Ok
blazing pawn
proper spade
3/5 Champ Calem or SS Morty
copper verge
Yes
foggy urchin
How's this grid?
bronze dragon
Well if you have 2 different kind of damage dealers, good
Otherwise just focus on one kind of MUN stacks, either physical or special
sweet parcel
at 1/5 you can pick anything
if you are new, dont grid Marnie
grid other pairs at higher move level first
vivid yoke
I ended up going for marnie and making her 3/5. With propulsion and her passive, she can shave off a turn of sync countdown by herself with Head Start lucky skill
Do you guys think thats worth it over crit strike
merry onyx
yeah, she does not need crit strike at all imo
she already does bonkers damage and has several bonkers partners
dense eagle
moltres bonkers
muted gust
Any good Marnie grid around?
gentle sun
If it’s not in the pinned document then you can try out putting together something you like on pomatools and asking about ways to improve it
muted gust
I mean, premade grid, examples to use.
bronze dragon
Then it's in the pins
gentle sun
The pinned document has example grids for all pairs
muted gust
Can you pinpoint me where they're in the document, please?
muted gust
Thank you 🙏
gentle sun
Should be able to ctrl + f if on pc as well
sweet parcel
Ctrl + F on PC or search bar on mobile
fading gulch
is this best for kris assuming full dps mode
unique wedge
for on type yes
placid heart
Why no free 0 energy tile
unique wedge
ah yeah the ATK +20 on the left
echo crypt
Doesn't matter much, she'll wreck stuff regardless
fading gulch
can she do more than archie may ss brendan :’)
unique wedge
unironically yes
fading gulch
i still havent really used her because i like may that much
fading gulch
shower sync on archie is just lg stuff right
i got super rain 4 for dps but besides that idk what else
echo crypt
Archie sync in general is definitely a gauntlet thing tbh
fading gulch
actually he gets one multiplier
lol
but i cant go into the thunder dps shit either
without reworking the entire thing
echo crypt
Yeah, so does Maxie, both have meh syncs
placid heart
Use her with May
This combo is so fun
fading gulch
im running out of orbs
placid heart
Me too
I went from 90K to 36k from poma ray
Day
Idt the math adds up but oh well
echo crypt
How are you not done with grids? 
placid heart
How are you not done with grids? <:CobalionSquint:727233291241127987>
I’m very close funnily
median bluff
Anyone know good grids for the new sync pair marnie champ?
gentle sun
Should be some examples in the pinned document
median bluff
Oh okay thanks I didn’t know if it would be up yet ig I should’ve looked😅
gentle sun
Nah, you’re good. I wasn’t sure myself if it had been updated until earlier today
stuck compass
~~can she do more than archie may ss brendan :’)~~
Imo best team for Kris is sskris and sslyra
stuck compass
Ah no worries
placid heart
i dont have those though
If you have champ Calem he works as well
stuck compass
onyx sage
anyone got a 4/5 zacian grid 🙏
placid heart
Pretty sure the doc has been updated
stuck idol
Anyone pls suggest roark grid pls 🙏
echo crypt
stuck idol
<:CheckThePins:770547479446814730>
Is this gonna work for him
Who should i use with him as f2p
placid heart
Nanu and@hop are Great partners for him and yes that grid should work well
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wispy dagger
Does champion marnie need 3/5 grid or is 2/5 grid good enough?
placid heart
If she’s already 2/5 I don’t think she gets a lot from it and would prefer 3/5 if you have a spare stroke candy but she’s perfectly fine as is at 1/5
stuck idol
Does champion marnie need 3/5 grid or is 2/5 grid good enough?
At 3/5 she is killing machine for any stage
As i have at 3/5 got one copy and used 2 candies on her
As per my experience
wispy dagger
Ok so should I just candy her cuz I just got her to 2/5
short geode
i dont understand why the pin guide recommends to pick cs1 on lana who is just a support with poo poo attack move 💀
short geode
heh
echo crypt
with a support every bit helps
short geode
funny how leech life has expensive gauge
echo crypt
same as Horn Leech
old niche
You guys gridded your gloria?
bronze dragon
wispy dagger
Alr bet
copper verge
Not sure if joking or just standards' difference 
echo crypt
not to mention they are omitting a bunch of info
stuck idol
That's my hoo sync grid
wispy dagger
For C Marnie do I want the sync grid buff grid or the utility grid? I’m trynna go for making my moves powerful which is why I already gridded the utility grid but the reason on why I’m asking is because I do start syncing with Marnie after I sync with an Ex support. Just to get that double sync buff
So I’m wondering if it’s necessary
copper verge
You don't really need anything in particular then, most classic content will end through EX Support into B move honestly
clever thorn
Wait, you used the utility grid to focus on damage 
copper verge
For longer stages / self-challenges, just see if you need a bit more of Nuke power to end the stage or extra utility to ease the clear
Well both grid are dmg grids regardless tbf
I think he meant No Nuke Vs With Nuke
which well, only depends if you need/plan to nuke or not right 😅
bronze dragon
Wait, you used the utility grid to focus on damage <:MarleyWhat:6098885874707333...
Can you actually avoid doing damage with Ch Marnie? 
signal saddle
wispy dagger
I think he meant No Nuke Vs With Nuke
Yeah sorry I didn’t know how to word it 😭😭
copper verge
In your defense I did word them "move / Sync" and "move / Utility"
prisma dawn
bede
copper verge
Can you actually avoid doing damage with Ch Marnie? <:gp_monaks:6985021243753759...
You're only allowed to press 2 buttons and not touch her again 
primal wasp
Oh Gloria got a grid expansion eh?
Time for me to see if this makes her better
Oh wtf she has Steel Rebuff but it only works once?
I mean it’s a Rebuff but it’s not stackable and also it can only be applied to one target?
bronze dragon
It's a striker
It's already surprising a striker applies rebuff, all the previous ones have been techs
signal saddle
There is Alister
gentle sun
That’s true, we do have 1 Support who applies rebuff
bronze dragon
True true, forgot about him
sweet parcel
primal wasp
His rebuff is good too
This one is not as good so they must plan on adding more Rebuffs down the line
bronze dragon
It's your standard rebuff appliance
I guess he doesn't lower speed like Gordie does for example
Gloria is a striker so it makes sense she doesn't excel applying rebuff
stuck compass
Qn does Brodie have any meaningful 2/5 build? All those multipliers on a st 2bar attack feels v meh
bronze dragon
Who's Brodie?
stuck compass
Oh Gordie yes
stark berry
Gordie 2/5 grid is pretty useless, he gets good stuffs at 3/5 but his 1/5 base kit is still serviceable
You won't use him as a DPS regardless
With 3/5 you can run a sync nuke grid (and is a pretty strong nuke too)
At 1/5 or 2/5 you can still use him for the rebuff and eventually for sun or max move nuking
But at 3/5 he gets +100 BP on max moves (and that's a nice buff)
stuck compass
Ty, yeah I'm having a hard time finding a place for him
fading gulch
me when fire rebuff + sun
stuck compass
+Leon field
fading gulch
ironically enough being a rock type he works best to support a fire team
cuz his rebuff has unlimited uses i think
and sun is always good
stark berry
cuz his rebuff has unlimited uses i think
2 mp, no mpr
stark berry
Nobody has infinite rebuffs
echo crypt
well, not really, it caps at -3 anyway
stark berry
It still caps at -3 and -3 isn't much stronger than -2
stuck compass
And I guess 2-3 isn't that big
fading gulch
its a 10% damage increase from 2 to 3 anyway i dont get why they just uncap it
echo crypt
the one pair that has it "infinite" is SS Hilbert
stark berry
the one pair that has it "infinite" is SS Hilbert
Only once per target
echo crypt
as in, he can apply it to everyone without MP restrictions
that's what I mean
hence the quotes
stark berry
Infinite for villa i guess
stuck compass
5x on latias/latios I guess? Or does it need weakness
stark berry
As long as the units have those weaknesses
bronze dragon
its a 10% damage increase from 2 to 3 anyway i dont get why they just uncap it
The damage increase is 6.6%
1.6/1.5 = 1.0666
fading gulch
oh so effective increase
stark berry
5x on latias/latios I guess? Or does it need weakness
Needs the weaknesses, ad for legendary arena i still think is only one time
fading gulch
i just meant it went from 50% to 60% more damage taken
echo crypt
yes, only one bar, once a boss changes bar the rebuff goes away
stark berry
However i find that Gordie 1/5 is still a really strong utility unit for fire teams
Sun + 2 stacks of rebuffs is very useful
bronze dragon
Imo it doesn't justify a spot over a top fire damage dealer like SS Hilda, SS Red, Leon, Anni N
But yes his base kit supports fire types well enough
stark berry
I mean you run it alongside one of them
fading gulch
is anni n really top tier still
bronze dragon
I mean you run it alongside one of them
Yes but you sacrifice one too
echo crypt
you'd definitely not use Gordie in the slightest if you have SS Morty
stark berry
Gordie has headstart 1 In grid
Leon has -1 sync on tm
Add a support with headstart 1 and you can sync 1 turn earlier
stuck compass
is anni n really top tier still
Idc what they say, hes still my goto with burgepi and daddy
bronze dragon
is anni n really top tier still
His DPS in MM is very efficient
fading gulch
ig but isnt that because of piercing blows and extend range
his nuke is annoying to setup without ghetsis imo
bronze dragon
You mean extend range?
bronze dragon
his nuke is annoying to setup without ghetsis imo
It is, that's why I think the best way to use him is DPS spam
stark berry
He's really efficient at clearing the sides of you don't run striker ex
fading gulch
well ss red go brr
stark berry
His nuke is strong but not the easiest to setup
fading gulch
if only he got whatever the special equivalent of relentless was
bronze dragon
Why would he
stark berry
AOE spdef debuffs on top of great AOE DPS is really nice
fading gulch
mind games 9
stuck compass
He's kinda strong as he is
stark berry
And at 3/5 he gets pep rally too
fading gulch
would at least be easier to set up than devastation and power posture
echo crypt
if only he got whatever the special equivalent of relentless was
Smarty-Pants
bronze dragon
if only he got whatever the special equivalent of relentless was
Ketsuban was talking about SS red
stuck compass
But I feel MR does a similar amount of DPS for some reason.
fading gulch
Smarty-Pants
i meant that mg9 helps with smarty pants
echo crypt
right, my bad
fading gulch
while also doing damage
bronze dragon
SS Red's sync is not easy to set up, unless you run a less synergistic support
stark berry
His tm gives MGA so if you add the team speed buffs it becomes a good thing for gauges, considering he's a 4 gauge user
fading gulch
noble roar just forces him into a passive role
stuck compass
Solve it by bringing his daddy
bronze dragon
Then his daddy is the one going passive
fading gulch
like
i tried using champ iris
a bit with him
but then i realize it just sucks as much because iris only debuffs one stat at a time
bronze dragon
The debuffs are only worth doing on one target
Sides are dying inevitably by Blue Flare
fading gulch
yeah thats also true
i swear people overrate 1/5 ciris so much
i have had her for an entire year and like besides latias shes useless
stark berry
The nuke is single target so not really worth debuffing everyone
stark berry
Guess she may be useful for stuffs like Alder 1st nuke
fading gulch
her base kit isnt that good though
spatk and atk drops arent that valuable imo outside of setting up multipliers
because its better to just buff defense
bronze dragon
I don't know what you've seen around but pretty sure most people think C Iris needs 3/5
fading gulch
I don't know what you've seen around but pretty sure most people think C Iris ne...
i have seen like 10 different people say ciris is the best at 1/5
and i violently disagree
because she debuffs
also alder also has debuffs and actually has damage
bronze dragon
because its better to just buff defense
Most supports can buff some defenses, you can combine them to play control
stark berry
Ciris debuffs faster i guess
bronze dragon
i have seen like 10 different people say ciris is the best at 1/5
If it was in #poma-lounge it doesn't count
bronze dragon
Then it doesn't count either
stark berry
Karen can do her job for special aoe
fading gulch
satisfied snarl yep
bronze dragon
She is valuable because of role compression, but in practice her debuffs are not much better than a f2p level unit because most times you only make use of half of her debuffs
And she doesn't debuff fast enough for power play units
stark berry
Her DPS is usable but there are better f2p options
Her debuffs are usable but there are alternatives in the general pool
The only extra thing she has is the 3/5 nuke
fading gulch
also the other thing i see is people recommending 1/5 cynthia for lodge
fading gulch
yes and they say favs over meta
which is just
what
i have said multiple times that you are picking someone who has 0 worth at 1/5 for lodge is insanely stupid
echo crypt
well, that's the zen mentality fully cranked
bronze dragon
If it was a fav reason they'd tell you to make Cynthia at least 3/5
fading gulch
yeah they just say pick her for lodge and im just
💀
its not like lodge cynthia is that good either
bronze dragon
I don't understand why someone would have Cynthia as fav, scout her 1/5 to use her and be extremely disappointed
echo crypt
like, I'd only mention 1/5 Cynthia if they happen to not care for absolutely anyone in there, regardless of what boost they get with more copies
fading gulch
isnt naomi just deadass better than 1/5 cynthia
echo crypt
yes
bronze dragon
For sure
fading gulch
insane
stark berry
Cynthia has 0 value if not 3+/5
But lodge Cynthia isn't bad
bronze dragon
Ok but she's not good either
If you're gonna recommend something like:
-try multis on her because you can get lodge Cynthia!
-use your champion pick instead of expanded alder or Lance
Then idk what to say
stark berry
Personally i prefer getting extra limited units over saving a candy
bronze dragon
It depends which ones
I'd rather go from 3/5 to 4/5 Anni Raihan than get a new F Morty you know
And a 1/5 Cynthia is F Morty levels of useless
stark berry
Yes 1/5 Cynthia is pretty bad
stark berry
Probably she's still usable with 6ex ingo
bronze dragon
If by usable you mean you can click her moves then yes
stark berry
I mean better than hapu
echo crypt
I'd rather not be forced to carry a bad unit
bronze dragon
I mean better than hapu
Amazing
stark berry
Most good ground types are limited
fading gulch
yeah cynthia is limited and still sucks without move levels
stark berry
But the champion select doesn't have other ground types
bronze dragon
Zinnia, f2p ex striker, does a better job in ground weak stages than a 1/5 Cynthia on-type
So I can't take the type point seriously
stark berry
Personally i picked Diantha because i Was missing her
Not the bestest, but at 1/5 she's still probably my strongest fairy DPS
bronze dragon
Well that's more of a gem resource management thing
stark berry
It was a free scout so gems weren't involved
bronze dragon
But for me it's better to have a selection of units at 3/5 unlocked at full potential and fully satisfied than having most at 1/5 being all restricted
stark berry
But still you save a candy not 2
Plus i guess you will get like a free 6ex from lodge
And some candy coins too
So not even a full candy saved
And lodge Cynthia isn't as useless as regular 1/5 Cynthia
bronze dragon
Yeah but the point is the alternatives, the options you're not picking by doing that
You could go from 2/5 to 3/5 Lance, or Alder from 3/5 to 4/5
I prefer those over the Cynthia route
stark berry
Or maybe you can save 2 candies and get a really solid ground type unit
bronze dragon
That's the select part, if someone is telling you to spend gems on Cynthia banner to get a lodge pair then that's madness
fading gulch
Not about spending gems
the fact that it was raised as an option at all genuinely disgusts me though
bronze dragon
Then Lance and alder dupes are better than getting a new Cynthia
stark berry
Depends what's the point of the game
If it's just for meta then probably she's worthless
If it's to collect new units then is worth
fading gulch
most people asking are asking for a meta reason
in which case cynthia is complete ass unless you are candying her 3/5 asap
bronze dragon
Pretty sure whoever is just looking to collect her they already had a chance to scout her in these 3 years of permanent reruns
stark berry
I mean lodge Cynthia can help in gauntlet
fading gulch
gauntlet
echo crypt
I mean, the percentage of people that actually cares is not very high
Gauntlet is fairly niche
stark berry
I mean for most people everything is a cakewalk
bronze dragon
Most people do 10-20 wins
stark berry
(everything but lodge Ed ebe)
fading gulch
you get new units to make shit easier
cynthia really doesnt help that much in that regard at 1/5
bronze dragon
1 support per win, I can name like 40 supports better than L Cynthia easy
stark berry
Depends even on the roster
bronze dragon
She doesn't even fulfill any particular checkbox to counter LG, she just debuffs speed
stark berry
I mean if someone has SS serena I don't thinking really needs 3/5 lance
bronze dragon
You're too focused on typing
Lance is a brilliant damage dealer that can carry any stage
Tank + gimmick check unit + Lance beats any LG
Lance helps more towards content than L Cynthia
stark berry
But lance to be really strong needs 5/5 not 3/5
bronze dragon
Fake
fading gulch
3/5 already has multipliers
5/5 has self buffs
but even so he has ramp up and critical focus
iirc
at 3/5
bronze dragon
Critical eye 1
stark berry
I mean for gauntlet you won't use his tm if you won't recover the hp
bronze dragon
The only reason to use his TM is if he's 4+/5
To get his self buffs
And he has potion, so you don't even need to worry
If you have a good support then the upgrade from 3/5 to 5/5 is rather meaningless for Lance
stark berry
But still, few people have 2/5 lance so you still need to use a candy regardless
bronze dragon
2/5 is already giving furious brain
stark berry
Yes but still needs Sabrina to fix his kit
bronze dragon
Huh?
stark berry
He needs accuracy, spa and full crit at 2/5