isnt team sharp entry already really good
#Sync Grids
fading gulch
shadow wadi
It is, yes
sweet parcel
Is giving him Stoic 4 really game breaking 
fading gulch
50%
shadow wadi
Is giving him Stoic 4 really game breaking <:RosaThink:815426654955503627>
Immortal Sycamore strikes again
torpid sluice
Are these grids good or need improvement?
Top grid = sync nuke
Middle grid = water DPS
Bottom grid = fire DPS
Just a speed support will be needed if ramp up 2 is taken
gentle sun
They seem fine at a glance
placid heart
Actually it’s BpJanine grid expansion (:
shrewd sparrow
soon
placid heart
The family
bronze dragon
How do these grids look?
For Emma you need to think what team are you using
To understand if you're able to max speed and attack with an ally or not
placid heart
I was thinking of hilbert and firis as the partners
bronze dragon
Optimal team is F Iris + Ch Calem/SS Brendan
placid heart
I see
bronze dragon
Are these grids good or need improvement?
Top grid = sync nuke
Middle grid = wa...
You should probably never be needing Ramp Up 2. Ch Calem and SS Kris, your 2 rain supports, are giving you +2 spatk already
If you don't have those 2 then you still can use any other special support with gauge management
gentle sun
I found a fun all-in on Metronome grid for Pal. Elesa
bronze dragon
Well that's a grid that is working for 1/18 attacks
gentle sun
Yeah, it's designed purely for memes
This would be a more serious (probably further optimizable) Metronome-focused grid
And for an attempt at a Fly-focused grid where someone else is Sync nuking:
bronze dragon
I just think it's not worth to pick any Metronome node
Because they're all based on being super effective and that's a super small chance
gentle sun
Fortuitous isn't, but it also doesn't give a whole lot of benefit, so it's understandable
bronze dragon
Fortuitous 9 but no Rising Tide or any way to profit from it
Super Interference 1 but no Interference Sync 5 or any way to profit from it
gentle sun
Metronome is definitely more for slotting her into a team where you already have a strong duo
bronze dragon
Metronome is just to stack pmun and use a big Fly
gentle sun
Wait, would the stacks not get consumed by another Metronome?
gentle sun
Interesting
fading gulch
Wait, would the stacks not get consumed by another Metronome?
metronome is a status move so it wouldnt
shadow wadi
Because they're all based on being super effective and that's a super small chan...
Resetting in LG joins the party 🎉
gentle sun
I didn't realize it didn't count the called-up move
I just assumed whatever move it called would behave the same as if it were directly selected
shadow wadi
I didn't realize it didn't count the called-up move
Huh, neither did I.
Does it not consume se up as well?
bronze dragon
It does but SE up next is for any kind of attack
shadow wadi
Fair
bronze dragon
pmun and smun are for special moves and physical moves
gentle sun
That's an interesting bit of tech
bronze dragon
And metronome isn't either
gentle sun
I'm gonna have a lot of fun with that
shadow wadi
Wait, what's the point of special move next then?
gentle sun
Probably just a blanket passive so they can give it to someone else (assuming it wasn't originally on someone else)
vivid yoke
Counterpoint metronome is funny and thats the only move you should click
bronze dragon
I'm gonna give pmun and smun to sburgh to check
Ok it actually consumes them, I thought it didn't
So P Elesa is even worse
gentle sun
Not terrible since she can slot into tons of teams, at least, but definitely not someone you go for if you're focused on getting only the strongest pairs
shadow wadi
Phew
bronze dragon
More like she doesn't fit in any team
shadow wadi
if you hate fun maybe
fading gulch
fun is steamrolling anything i come across
bronze dragon
Literally Nate with a power boost
gentle sun
Depends on what you mean by "fit", I guess. She's not the optimal 3rd teammate for anything, but she also can slot into any team that has a flexible 3rd slot
shadow wadi
Nate with that passive wouldn't be too bad
fading gulch
isnt nates problem just completely fucking up sync timer
his nuke is pretty alright and fly can hit hard
bronze dragon
But the passive working only on metronome is like if Nate only had it on aerial ace
fading gulch
its just your sync timer is in absolute shambles
shadow wadi
But the passive working only on metronome is like if Nate only had it on aerial ...
I meant fixing fly countdown
bronze dragon
Depends on what you mean by "fit", I guess. She's not the *optimal* 3rd teammate...
That's... Exactly what not fitting anywhere means
Having a flexible 3rd slot = just put whatever, the other 2 units are carrying the team
The only move you can have control with is Fly, which is a very bad move in sense of mechanics
Metronome is fun and all but it's not a move you can base your striking on
gentle sun
Having a flexible 3rd slot = just put whatever, the other 2 units are carrying t...
Forgive the typing time, I am bad at words
I do want to mention that I more mean "this damage-dealer's necessary buffs are covered by this Support, so the 3rd slot can be a lot of different things", stuff like Hilbert + basically any physical damage-dealer
But yeah, I don't plan to recommend her to anyone from a mechanics perspective
bronze dragon
Well you know, Crasher Wake is also very self sufficient and that's not helping
gentle sun
Fair
I should see what that guy does and try to shove him on a team for the lols
Wow, he's actually not bad as a flinch-bot, but that's beside the point
Just thought that was neat
bronze dragon
For me P Elesa is a mix of the moves in the wrong direction: bad mechanics, ontype exclusive kit, bad refreshes
gentle sun
Fair enough
bronze dragon
At least Nate can refresh Fly consistently, this unit needs 3/5 and sync to do so
Otherwise you're stuck with metronome
fading gulch
At least Nate can refresh Fly consistently, this unit needs 3/5 and sync to do s...
he can?
gentle sun
I'll still be trying to find ways to use her for random stuff for obvious reasons
bronze dragon
Nate has quick combo 3
bronze dragon
To any attack move
fading gulch
ok thats decent ig
but i still think not having any sync accel on fly is whats holding him back
bronze dragon
At least Nate can refresh Fly consistently, this unit needs 3/5 and sync to do s...
And the bad part of syncing with P Elesa is... Her multipliers are only on-type
gentle sun
On another grid note, it's unfortunate that you're 1 energy short on getting all of Maylene's MP Refreshes + other Trainer Move upgrades + On a Roll
Standard DeNA, I suppose
Also unfortunate that there's no Master Healer tiles for Drain Punch
Overall decent grid though
bronze dragon
I think you shouldn't be using Maylene with the idea of her maxing both attack and crit
gentle sun
Yeah, that's where my mind went seeing that too
bronze dragon
That's 6 turns of clicking TMs even getting MPRs
You want to use rock smash to debuff defence and drain punch to sustain
So it's not wise spending too long with buffs
gentle sun
I am 100% certain this can be optimized further, but this seems decent for Attack buff-focus
vivid yoke
Im using maylene with sc guzma to control when dpunch hits
bronze dragon
I think I would use this in general
gentle sun
That seems good for crit buffs, yeah
Probably generally since Attack buffs are so common
vivid yoke
Im going with this. She'll have crit support so im going max damage+utility
Got 4 energy leftover
gentle sun
I’ll probably be using my Fly grid alongside A. Skyla and a Sp. Atk. + crit buffer most of the time
vivid yoke
Ill have a fly grid too but metronome spam sounds too fun not to use
I like super interference bc if you cant control the move you use, you may as well get the most out of whatever effect comes with it
zinc meadow
Cobalt tell me your secret of getting the grid image 
gentle sun
Yeah, I’ll goof around with Metronome and see what happens.
Assuming I get her because I was blindsided after having gotten NY Lisia
gentle sun
Cobalt tell me your secret of getting the grid image <:ZinniaSnapped:67476883524...
The triple dots on pomatools, then “image”. Might not work on mobile, but on PC that downloads an image file of the grid
vivid yoke
It sucks on mobile i had to try like 4 times to get it to dl
zinc meadow
The triple dots on pomatools, then “image”. Might not work on mobile, but on PC ...
No wonder I can’t do it on my phone 
echo crypt
Interesting, I can do it just fine
It takes a couple of seconds tho, but it does generate the image
gentle sun
It used to work on mobile for me, but it didn’t when I tried recently
zinc meadow
IT WON’T SHOW THE POKÉMON IN THE MIDDLE 
gentle sun
I think that is a limitation of mobile, actually
zinc meadow
I’ll just screenshot like normal ig lol
echo crypt
Nah, works like a charm
gentle sun
I know that when I used to do the mobile image-gets it didn’t show the center pair
echo crypt
Ignore the not so optimal tiles I grabbed, it's just an example 
gentle sun
Like this one
shadow wadi
Ignore the not so optimal tiles I grabbed, it's just an example <:WEEZing:732044...
Boo
Who even picks hp +5 to test it
echo crypt
Hmm, you guys are using what? iOS? I like to blame that apple with as much as I can
zinc meadow
iOS here too
echo crypt
There you go, rotten apple right there 
zinc meadow
echo crypt
Or maybe my phone is special, idk tbh
placid heart
Lorelei stuck in grid expansion jail you hate to see it (there’s no fixing her$
gentle sun
Next month
placid heart
Jessie grid hype
It’s only her and MChu left there’s no 3rd for three new ig they don’t have too
gentle sun
And they’ll make Lorelei’s grid absurdly good because half-anniversary 
shadow wadi
I wonder if they might do four at once. Or just four in one month. Would look better than next month with "Here's Torchic".
shadow wadi
I don't know, too many factors they can use differently. Will they? No idea.
Just a random thought, let's wait and see.
placid heart
I’ve not been this excited for a poma day in a while where’s siru I bet they’re happy about maylene grid
What if they don’t give MCTorchic TM MPR
gentle sun
Shauntal grid and Elesa Power Boost have me very hyped for Masters Day too
placid heart
I’m happy about all the grids this time around
Can’t wait to see Roark still combust with 1K hp and standfast 14
gentle sun
Worst case scenario Roark can just build for Sync nuke
He’s actually kinda great come grid release
placid heart
Ye
vivid yoke
Lorelei gets grid expansion, extra grid expansion, EX, and lodge support next datamine
shadow wadi
Can’t wait to see Roark still combust with 1K hp and standfast 14
Standfast isn't additive, in case you don't know
placid heart
Ye ik lel
placid heart
Lorelei gets grid expansion, extra grid expansion, EX, and lodge support next da...
And I thought me wanting Calem to get a power boost was copium 
fair saffron
What’s our thinking on the new pairs tier list wise?
zinc meadow
What’s our thinking on the new pairs tier list wise?
I don’t think this is the right channel? #916852389347196958
fair saffron
I just go off of sparks sync grid tier list that’s why I asked in here
echo crypt
well, then ask them
discussions here about that don't really have any weight in where they place units in that tier list
zinc meadow
And the tier list does not have anything to do with a sync grid question…
They just put it on the same doc, that’s it.
fair saffron
Okay…. Just asking a question sorry everyone didn’t mean to bother you
sweet parcel
is this a good grid for max nuke Elesa?
i wish i could get Paralysis Synergy 3
but energy short
echo crypt
yeah, that looks good to me, funny how she goes over 1k health when EX'd lol
sweet parcel
Roark has 1032 HP at 5* 
sweet parcel
you pick Wild Charge BP over Attack +5 tile?
bronze dragon
It's a more noticeable difference for wild charge
Doesn't matter either way
Nvm wild charge nodes are 4 energy, thought they were 3
clever thorn
This a good 4/5 Alder grid? Maybe Dismay is bait tho, since you’d bring a SpAtk debuffer anyway if you’re using Devastation. Brain Sync is probably better
echo crypt
imagine not picking a free tile, smh
bronze dragon
Dismay 2 is not too good for him but there's nothing much better you can pick
clever thorn
Dropping Dismay lets you take both sync tiles and brain sync ig
bronze dragon
You can try to play around to get overpower
clever thorn
imagine not picking a free tile, smh
5 
tho
bronze dragon
Ok you can't pick overpower without dropping a more relevant grid so yeah aim for Brain sync 2 if you're pairing a reliable spatk dropper
clever thorn
echo crypt
Winston just wants to make our blood boil 
bronze dragon
clever thorn
I guess if you’re clearing the entire stage with his nuke, SpAtk is better than a HB node
clever thorn
Winston just wants to make our blood boil <:CobalionSquint:727233291241127987>
Someone I know always says I’m really passive agressive 
bronze dragon
I guess if you’re clearing the entire stage with his nuke, SpAtk is better than ...
It's always better
clever thorn
Oh ofc, it’s hyper beam lol
placid heart
DeNA and their consistency, same Struggle Bug tiles with different energy costs
Pretty sure Calem has psybeam toles all the same bp but range from 2-4 energy
bronze dragon
+2 BP for 4/5 hyperbeam is around a 0,7% boost
+5 SpAtk is over a 1% boost
dry glen
Does Janine's hostile enviroment 1,3,5 ensure poison?
sweet parcel
yes
sweet parcel
winter quiver
Regarding alder grid, is it better to go hyper beam or struggle bug? Cause I saw a lot of multiplier for struggle bug
sweet parcel
Hyper Beam is a lot better than Struggle Bug
SB is not worth using unless you want to setup his multipliers
elfin crypt
Pinpoint entry and brain sync tiles are 2/5 Alder only right?
sweet parcel
yes
elfin crypt
Sweet, me grabbing a second Alder copy from the free ticket last time wasn’t a waste haha
stark berry
Now i feel that the candy for 3/5 alder was a bit of a waste, since the only thing I really cared was hyper beam accuracy, at least i still have devastation and overpower
bronze dragon
Well candying only for accuracy was already a waste 
Now candy to 4/5 for furious brain 
vivid yoke
Idk what champion ill grab when we get the free ticket pull
bronze dragon
If you have them at 3/5 already then it's a matter of who's expansion do you have more faith/hype for
Alder's 4/5 is pretty good
vivid yoke
I have cynthia 5/5 (daily luck) alder 4/5 (got an extra copy randomly), steven 2/5, c.iris 3/5, diantha 1/5 and lance 1/5
Diantha's 2/5 expansion didnt impress me
fading gulch
she got a 2/5 expansion?
vivid yoke
And i think Lance has the most potential
fading gulch
i guess its the oar node for moonblast
vivid yoke
She got the 2/5, 4/5 and 5/5 nodes
bronze dragon
If I were you I'd go for Steven
vivid yoke
4/5 nodes tend to be pretty good so its tempting to go for iris
Whats he get at 3? Iron head agg?
bronze dragon
If you like Lance then up to you, mine is staying 1/5
vivid yoke
I think no matter what ill wait for the march datamine before i pick just in case any of them get expansions
fading gulch
steven is a meme
vivid yoke
Lance and steven are both just ok for me, i just see them buffing lance more since his grid is so nothing right now
fading gulch
probably the worst possible choice you could pick
imo
if you’re one to care about grid expansions
vivid yoke
Stevens been decent for me at 2/5
gentle sun
Lol, what
vivid yoke
I dont think i agree totally...they do different things
Like yeah lance has higher dps but
gentle sun
You mean in terms of what more move levels give, right?
vivid yoke
And yeah with the grid lance has almost nothing useful
Steven gets haymaker, recuperation, iron head agg. just off the top of my head
fading gulch
well i was more so referring to their base kits yeah i remember lance isnt great grid wise
gentle sun
Steven is definitely a more valuable choice than Lance, there's no less than 4 free Dragon damage-dealers with at least half of them being competent or better
vivid yoke
Me picking lance is a gamble that his expanded grid will be worth it down the road
gentle sun
Yeah, if you're picking based on hope of good extra grid tiles it becomes an absolute toss-up
vivid yoke
I think both lance and steven deserve the cynthia treatment
bronze dragon
It's not the same being better than getting more from dupes
Lance is borderline gridless for what he cares right now
bronze dragon
Well good news is their 4/5 and 5/5 are worthless
Aside from that they're both great at 1/5 but their 3/5 makes them all-round monsters
unique wedge
How do these grids look?
i had a similar thought lol
but why not pick the Toxic Power 1 while you're there?
the issue is Anabel 
icy raven
https://i.imgur.com/5luDkon.png
Why people not choosing super toxic 4
unique wedge
because we play off type
but it's a bit far
and it's rng and niche
even on-type i wouldn't pick it
placid heart
but why not pick the Toxic Power 1 while you're there?
J didn’t see the tile@lel
bronze dragon
Why people not choosing super toxic 4
You're choosing to defeat your enemy with a spiky meteorite instead of with a flat meteorite
zinc meadow
Emma doesn’t need it anyway, she’s a beast without it.
bronze dragon
for Lysandre leaning toward this
i like the idea of more SMUN even if 30%
Why drop raging rain 2
bronze dragon
Debut damage reduction looks like a bad skill imo too
unique wedge
shortcut not to press reflect but otherwise yeah it's useless
you probably can make do with 3 reflect uses
and she wants to press status moves too i agree
bronze dragon
Too much energy investment for no practical reward
You can just pick defense buffing nodes at top left quadrant
placid heart
Anabels grid feels all over the place
bronze dragon
Yep, those ones are the good ones
unique wedge
yeah...
placid heart
unique wedge
for sure
twin hill
I’ve heard that dialga and Lucas can be a solo unit, what’s the best 3/5 build for that?
zinc meadow
I’ve heard that dialga and Lucas can be a solo unit, what’s the best 3/5 build f...
Did you check the pins?
twin hill
I did, the build in there didn’t last too long or deal as much as I was hoping
zinc meadow
What stage are you struggling with? Lucas has real good damage, I don’t see how you have trouble.
LG is a different story tho 
twin hill
Lg’s what I’m looking for lol, particularly Latias. My dragon team is too good to waste on only one round, but I need both dragon units, but they don’t do anything against the fairy ones, and my fairy units can’t get past round one lol
shadow wadi
So what were the teams you tried?
zinc meadow
Should we redirect to #1012311116778586182 tho?
shadow wadi
Might as well
echo crypt
Yes, besides, Lucas alone cannot debuff Latias enough
shadow wadi
I don't think anyone recommending Lucas as solo dps meant literal solo clears in LG.
sonic scroll
What’s setup for 3/5 Lille Anniversary for CSMM ?
elfin crypt
Hmm
Been tinkering with a no weather buster Annie Steven build, but not sure what multipliers are good for him
zinc meadow
You called?
elfin crypt
Not sure if syncing with him is worth it haha
Anybody have a weather clearer Steven grid to compare?
placid heart
To be fair clearing weather/clear sync 1 is very easy to do
Your grid seems good tho maybe I’d grab hesdyart instead of weather wipe
His stats are low but clear sync 14 seems really good on paper
elfin crypt
Head start is start of battle right?
If it was adrenaline I would have picked it up haha
placid heart
Head start is useful depending on who you pair him with like for example if you use CCalem and aniSkyla if they both have head staff (or you use Calem TM prop 9) it is a very good combo
elfin crypt
Ah good point thanks
sonic scroll
Does anyone setup for Lillie anniversary 3/5 for Champion stadium or Legendary arena ?
quaint sleet
Does anyone setup for Lillie anniversary 3/5 for Champion stadium or Legendary a...
There is a suggested grid with mokngeist beam + sync boost in the sync grids document in the pins please use it
stuck idol
guys is this a good grid for 2/5 blastoise or should I change something
bronze dragon
Go for adrenaline 1 instead of hydro cannon stuff
You need a very good gauge team to use hydro cannon with SSB, and normally that's rain team where you'd pick racing rain
stuck idol
Go for adrenaline 1 instead of hydro cannon stuff
so should I ignore hydro canon and use adrenaline & racing rain??
stuck idol
ok i will make changes on his grid
regal crane
I know this probably isn't the right place to ask, but I can't find the "Who to 6*" and Who to candy" infographs anymore. Not sure if they were moved or deleted.
sweet parcel
You can type +6ex and +candy in #bot-zone for the infographics
regal crane
You can type +6ex and +candy in <#651488063821709322> for the infographics
Thank you@
stuck idol
is this grid good for Giovanni & Mewtwo??
gentle sun
Yeah, that’s fine
sweet parcel
is it the same as the one in the pin?
stuck idol
ya it's similar as i changed something little bit
anything should i change or should I go with this now
gentle sun
That grid is fine, combined with Bianca + Sabrina there should be little to no issue clearing Psychic weak content
stuck idol
That grid is fine, combined with Bianca + Sabrina there should be little to no i...
so i have to make a Sabrina tank or Bianca tank , a little bit confused ??
gentle sun
Either can act as the tank depending on the situation, I personally use Sabrina as the tank almost every time I run Sabrina + Bianca + Psychic damage-dealer
If not every time
sweet parcel
I prefer tanking with Bianca if she has Vigilance, since most Psychic weak stages usr physical attacks
stuck idol
I prefer tanking with Bianca if she has Vigilance, since most Psychic weak stage...
so should I give Sabrina and Bianca lucky skills - vigilance and is this grid ok for her
sweet parcel
Its 1/5 grid, so its def the best grid for her lol
Do you have many units not having luck skill? If so, give Vigilance to Sabrina only
gentle sun
Bianca can run Critical Strike 2 if you don’t plan to use her as the tank with high frequency
stuck idol
so if i make Sabrina as a tank is this a good choice for physics weak stages and should i give CS2 to bianca
stuck idol
Do you have many units not having luck skill? If so, give Vigilance to Sabrina o...
yes more than 70% units do not have lucky skills
gentle sun
Sabrina + Bianca + a Psychic damage-dealer is pretty much the OG Psychic team
Bianca’s Lucky Skill depends on how often you plan to use her as the tank as well as personal preference
sweet parcel
yes more than 70% units do not have lucky skills
So hold off giving lucky skill to Bianca, she doesnt need luck skill that much
stuck idol
So hold off giving lucky skill to Bianca, she doesnt need luck skill that much
last Sabrina also at 1/5 so is her grid good now i got to what to choose at sync grids due to u guys. so any changes i have to do
gentle sun
Since your Sabrina is only 1/5 the grid is fine
Once you get more move levels on Sabrina and Bianca you can check out the document in the pins, it has grid recommendations for every Sync Pair
stuck idol
Once you get more move levels on Sabrina and Bianca you can check out the docume...
how can I say to u guys, due to u guys really enjoying this game now thank you again
gentle sun
No problem, this channel is for grid advice
stuck idol
thank you gakon mate , thank you cobalt ☺️
icy raven
I'm sorry but I she CS worthy?
fading gulch
i mean if shes your fav just get her and use her
sweet parcel
She is a the kind of "only pull if fav"
gentle sun
Pal. Elesa is an “only go for her if favorite” Sync Pair, sadly
She has yet to find a major niche
zinc meadow
Dude she legit sucks, I will be utterly shocked if you pull for her for reasons other than fav.
gentle sun
Also, if you’re gridding for Sync nuke you’ll probably wanna go for this grid instead:
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/10602/17600?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFERQeISMkKCosLw
Metronome MGR is nearly useless for a Sync nuke grid
haughty turtle
What are some good grids for pal mallow and elesa?
gentle sun
Pal. Elesa has a few grid options ranging from “probably most effective grid centered on Fly” to “all-in on Metronome meme grid”
haughty turtle
The non meme one would be fine
haughty turtle
Ok thanks
bronze dragon
Accuracy +5 and Precision 1 is redundant
You can have energy enough for a sync BP node or Sync Quickening 3
gentle sun
Ah, true
gentle sun
Oh, I was building that grid with the assumption that someone else Syncs
Like A. Skyla
For a mixed grid that one works great though
bronze dragon
Imo if you just want to use Fly you would stay at 1/5
gentle sun
That’s fair
I’m personally 3/5ing her either way because favorite, so I guess I’m coming up with grids via that lens
gentle sun
I’d need to look into her grid more, personally
I haven’t done much checking with her kit since I plan to skip her
gentle sun
I would argue you’d wanna focus on Apple Acid, personally
placid heart
Fair
gentle sun
Rather than Staggering on Dragon Pulse
haughty turtle
one hand I want to focus on mga but i want to see what general use grid would be
haughty turtle
I see
placid heart
Oh alr
bronze dragon
This is what I consider the core, then you have 17 energy left for trip up 9, flabbergast 4, impervious, revenge boost 9... whatever tool suits your team
It's just very unappealing for me to build her grids because I keep getting reminded this is "we got SS Brendan at home"
bronze dragon
Except it's not budget 
vivid yoke
Ss brendan with a cooler mon
bronze dragon
sly fulcrum
Except it's not budget <:T21_PepeLaugh:878359528872230932>
True
echo crypt
it's ok to be wrong
bronze dragon
Check the pins and compare to the ones in the recommended doc
stuck idol
Check the pins and compare to the ones in the recommended doc
only shows 3/5 there are no examples of 5/5
bronze dragon
Silver doesn't have 5/5 nodes
stuck idol
but it doesn't show some tiles that's why it's a little confusing
bronze dragon
There's 4 grids, one of them is without the power boost nodes in case someone looks for a grid having missed the event
The other 3 have them
stuck idol
ok let's see again'
sweet parcel
Dude she legit sucks, I will be utterly **shocked** if you pull for her for reas...
Pull for meme
icy raven
Dude she legit sucks, I will be utterly **shocked** if you pull for her for reas...
Mhhm....what about the on type nuke though ?
gentle sun
It's not very strong, only modifier is Double Down (Edit: also SE Up, but those 2 things alone aren't enough to boost her by a significant margin)
placid heart
They released a year 2 unit in 2023 lel, why did they do this to her 
gentle sun
Currently Pal. Elesa lacks a major niche. If, hypothetically, they release a form of Metronome RNG manipulation in the future, things might change
icy raven
It's not very strong, only modifier is Double Down (Edit: also SE Up, but those ...
What about Super-powered 5 as well
Ehh....at this point I'll just watch a video on her or something before a make a decision
slate widget
Its a fine nuke
Its an SS N kind of uniy
Not like unusable but not great for todays standards
gentle sun
She's very much a "only go for her if she's a favorite" Sync Pair
zinc meadow
What about Super-powered 5 as well
Ehh....at this point I'll just watch a video ...
My guess is she isn’t a fav, I wouldn’t bother
gentle sun
On the bright side for Elesa fans, her regular version got a stellar Power Boost
primal wasp
Currently Pal. Elesa lacks a major niche. If, hypothetically, they release a for...
Did she get Grid Expansion or something?
Oh cool
cloud crane
as they've mentioned, Pal Elesa is great as a secondary striker. that is kinda fun ngl
placid heart
Great is an overstatement
cloud crane
ok. good i guess
placid heart
that’s pushing it too I feel
cloud crane
guess she's a secondary striker
bronze dragon
Dev letter even states she's a good secondary striker lol
I mean they're not going to try and sell you a unit by being honest and say "she's a pretty bad unit! You should scout her!"
timid marten
Yeah no exactly, simp for her "please"
cloud crane
i thought they'd at least keep the Fly -1 countdown not dependant on super effective
placid heart
Her outfit is on point at least
timid marten
I just find it funny "secondary" was the way to advertise her
bronze dragon
Well actually you do
She can be dodge tank herself, or you can use someone like Lysandre as tank striker
placid heart
I see
bronze dragon
Anni skyka can somewhat tank too with Barrel Roll 2
cloud crane
was thinking that Elesa could dodge the centre attacks with fly at least. could probably tank the side attacks
stark berry
I don't think p Elesa is that bad, but definitely far from top tier
It's an unit that i would definitely use if she was a spotlight and ended up getting her, but isn't an unit i would commit gems to actually get
In CS, she can easily nuke the mid with Fly while something like SS Ethan obliterates the sides, metronome is pretty useful in gauntlet, where most of the times you have to offtype, but she can still use fly against tapu bulu, or to dodge scripted AOE attacks like Entei heat weave or regirock rockslide
If Nate could do this, p Elesa would do much better, since she has multipliers and a much better attack stat
Btw it's without ph↑ since Regen screws my fly tactics if i don't get a bit of sync acceleration
bronze dragon
I mean that's a 2 turn move on-type
That's basically 3k hit off-type, which is very weak
Every damage dealer is supposed to be able to clear on-type content
sly fulcrum
It's an unit that i would definitely use if she was a spotlight and ended up get...
This sentence alr tells u how bad she is
Literally wanting her to be a spotlight
elfin crypt
I want all units to be added to spotlights honestly
stark berry
That's basically 3k hit off-type, which is very weak
I mean for offtype Elesa can just spam metronome
Plus Elesa fly should be much stronger than Nate fly
bronze dragon
Spamming Metronome isn't any better
stark berry
I mean for offtype, metronome Elesa can still work well in a 2 striker comp and on type fly should be enough to nuke the mid
In gauntlet gauge can be an issue so metronome spam is a decent option
Not saying she's top tier however
fading gulch
i think the issue with pal elesa is that her damage is inconsistent because metronome can consume the smun and pmun from her passive and fly as a main dps is eh
she doesnt suffer from ruining your sync countdown like nate but its not much better
stark berry
I mean for stadium in double striker comp i feel that fly is good enough as a gauge less strong flying attack that you can charge before the support ex sync and land post support ex sync
For offtype, metronome is fine, 1/18 of landing super effective is better than 0/18
What's the weakest move metronome can call? 98bp at 1/5?
vivid yoke
I keep saying this but if you want elesa you accept you are doing it for the meme
Fly being better than nate is major cope. Lean into metronome and have fun with it imo
fading gulch
i mean objectively her fly is better
its just that fly in general is not a good offensive move
stark berry
I mean she's weak for a 2023 limited unit, but not atrocious
fading gulch
metronome is worse though
stark berry
The real end game i feel is high streak gauntlet, and i think she will perform well in gauntlet
vivid yoke
Metronome is fun. You can just go on a stage where you only need 2 pairs and bring her along for fun
stark berry
I feel like I would have an easier time using p Elesa in gauntlet than SS lusamine
Even the more busted SS Lysander and Emma i feel will have a worse time in gauntlet
Emma falls apart if the stage gets poison immunity
SS Lysander in the long run may have gauge issues
fading gulch
i mean both are reliant on status
lg gets resistance to status
and after second application outright immunity
stark berry
SS Lysander can still kinda work if the stage gets burn immunity
Emma just can't if the stage gets poison immunity
I mean if the stage gets poison immunity later on i guess she can still finish the battle with the sync nuke
bronze dragon
The real end game i feel is high streak gauntlet, and i think she will perform w...
In a mode where you majorly off-type and you have to use a non-multiplier sync to keep using your MP limited move or stay with Metronome...?
I'm going to scout her but...
There's no sugarcoating this is a clear bad unit
bronze dragon
I feel like I would have an easier time using p Elesa in gauntlet than SS lusami...
And this is just...
sweet parcel
I dont know why are you defending her so much. She is only good ontype and Metronome is literally a meme
vivid yoke
Its cope but tbh let them cook i wanna agree
Pal elesa IS better than the kalos pokefairs
sweet parcel
vivid yoke
I mean, im pulling for her, and skipping them, so
sweet parcel
Well favs over meta i would pull her if i didnt have higher priorities this month
bronze dragon
Even the more busted SS Lysander and Emma i feel will have a worse time in gaunt...
"Oh no! My enemy cannot get burnt! Guess I'll have to stick with my 4 gauge Furious Brain Raging Rain 2 with smun Steam Eruption, man I wish I had Metronome instead!"
stark berry
"Oh no! My enemy cannot get burnt! Guess I'll have to stick with my 4 gauge Furi...
Problem with 4 gauge users in gauntlet is that you run low on gauges
bronze dragon
Unless you use support
stark berry
Yes but for high streak, gauge supports are limited i guess
bronze dragon
But why wouldn't you pair it with one of the best damage dealers in the game
stark berry
How is the damage against an opponent that can't be burned, compared to other high damage units?
bronze dragon
"Oh no! My enemy cannot get burnt! Guess I'll have to stick with my 4 gauge Furi...
This should give you an idea
shadow wadi
Lysandre doesn't set up rain, does he? Raging rain is out of the question
bronze dragon
It's a water move, and rain is the most common weather to set
gentle sun
Completely unrelated to viability, but I’m curious at how many solos besides just Latios and Bulu the Guantlet folks come up with for Pal. Elesa
bronze dragon
But even then, ok, remove rain and raging rain, how is it having a worse time than P Elesa
stark berry
It's a water move, and rain is the most common weather to set
But in gauntlet even rain isn't that easy to set
bronze dragon
Wdym it isn't easy
stark berry
I mean that rain options are limited, and rain abusers are a lot
Plus most rain setters can only do it twice
bronze dragon
It's the most common weather to set
stark berry
Yes but in gauntlet even the most common weather is still limited
bronze dragon
stark berry
That's the reason why most eggmons are useful in gauntlet, despite they are outclassed by other units
bronze dragon
Yes because weather is that powerful
gentle sun
“Useful” is maybe a slight exaggeration, unless you’re shooting for an extremely high streak you’re still better off bringing the standard weather setters
stark berry
Even for something like 40 streak, eggmons are valuable
gentle sun
Tbh most players probably aren’t going past 20
stark berry
And I'm not talking of just weather eggmons, but most eggmons are kinda useful for decently high streaks
stark berry
Tbh most players probably aren’t going past 20
I mean for 20 streaks you can probably just use your better options without doing much economy
The higher the streaks the more you have to split your resources
So if you use a good unit, you probably have to pair that with 2 not so good units
shadow wadi
Three pairs in a team? Heresy
stark berry
I'm talking about 40-60 streaks
Ofc if you aim to 100+ you need to play solo or duo too
Personally i prefer to still slot something like an egg Arcanine than going duo
sly fulcrum
While I do agree pal elesa can pull off some funny LG clears that doesn't mean she is automatically a good sync pair
Just because she specialise in an end game doesn't mean she's Uber tier or... even top tier
stark berry
Just because she specialise in an end game doesn't mean she's Uber tier or... ev...
Never said she's top tier
sly fulcrum
Or even average honestly
stark berry
I just said that isn't that bad
sly fulcrum
This is truly
stark berry
I mean isn't something like liepard, that is only good at snatching cresselia and that's it
sly fulcrum
We have alr see how nate perform and she's just a slightly better nate
Metronome is a fun move that's it
We aren't putting her as low as liepard no
stark berry
We have alr see how nate perform and she's just a slightly better nate
Nate doesn't even reach 300 attack and has basically no multipliers for fly
sly fulcrum
But u seem to be overselling her
bronze dragon
Nate doesn't even reach 300 attack and has basically no multipliers for fly
Same for P Elesa but 400 instead of 300
sly fulcrum
All we are saying is that she's a clear bad unit and a true test of pulling for your fav sync pair
Or funny LG clear I guess
stark berry
Don't get me wrong, she's still the weakest unit of the batch, I'm just saying isn't Nate level bad
bronze dragon
It's pretty close
stark berry
I don't Think she's close to Nate, at least p Elesa has decent multiplier for flying weak stages and usable attack
stark berry
Doesn't p Elesa have a sync nuke multiplier too?
bronze dragon
P Elesa uses her multipliers in 1/17 content, Nate uses them everywhere
bronze dragon
Inertia I meant
I do agree she is better than Nate, but it's close
Put Looker in the equation and she starts to struggle
stark berry
Ok i guess Nate has a better off type sync nuke
stark berry
Put Looker in the equation and she starts to struggle
I don't really think she's worse than looker
Looker too only has on type multipliers
Poison jab isn't the bestest
sly fulcrum
Idk why they gave her strengthening status 9
bronze dragon
Both ontype Looker does a better job than P Elesa
stark berry
I think the point of Elesa is to use her in dual strike comp, since she's super cheap on gauges
bronze dragon
What dual strike comp tho
Your zone setter is Anni Skyla
You need a striker that hard carries
sly fulcrum
More like evasion tank in flying
stark berry
Ok maybe I'm biased because I'm less restricted for flying weak since i don't have anni Skyla
bronze dragon
And yes, you can use her as dodge tank, but that's just dragging down the setup of the main damage dealer by not using a support instead
fading gulch
if you want dodge tank why not use nita or falkner who are like actually designed for that
bronze dragon
Ok maybe I'm biased because I'm less restricted for flying weak since i don't ha...
Well if you want to justify P Elesa and don't even have zone... I don't know what to say
sly fulcrum
Just use an actual support that buffs skyla and ethan
stark berry
However my Cs 2k is already fully covered, so i guess gauntlet is more of a priority
sly fulcrum
Her whole power lies in being able to pull off high streaks solo LG
Because of evasion stuff and fly
Also the SMUN and PMUN when she dodged
bronze dragon
I don't think she's a particularly good gauntlet unit
fading gulch
Also the SMUN and PMUN when she dodged
wait does she get this even
sly fulcrum
Yes
fading gulch
i know she gets smun and pmun from using metronome
bronze dragon
Lacks heals, tanking passives, limited moves
stark berry
Fly is useful to dodge scripted aoe
Metronome is 1 gauge so you don't need gauge support
sly fulcrum
She's not gonna be able to clear some LG for sure
But can do some funny ones
And she never runs out of fly technically
bronze dragon
Metronome is 1 gauge so you don't need gauge support
Yes but it's still a weak move
I don't understand the emphasis on it being 1 gauge
stark berry
Still 98bp minimum i guess (at 1/5)
stark berry
Without multipliers nor field effect
In gauntlet you rarely have field effects
bronze dragon
That's your choice
sly fulcrum
She could've been better if they gave her some sort of debuff with fly
Or just unfort 9
Well at least pal elesa looks good
stark berry
However I'm not saying she's top tier or anything, i just said that i would have been happy to get her as a general pool pull
Like I said i don't want to pull her in a limited banner, i just said that she's not useless, but not good enough to justify a limited pool
sly fulcrum
Bet dena is just water testing
stark berry
And that she may be useful for gauntlet
bronze dragon
Well she's pretty useless, she doesn't offer anything to any team
If at least idk she had specific status, interference or some niche debuff
She could justify being a setup unit for someone else but not even that
Best you can say is 1 more clear against Tapu Bulu
sly fulcrum
Yeah the solo bulu clear is gonna sell well
bronze dragon
I guess Latios too but god knows how many units bully Latios
stark berry
I mean i used marshall tank in gauntlet, so my standards i think are pretty low
bronze dragon
Marshall has defense buffs and leech attack
stark berry
Too bad he as atrocious stats
bronze dragon
P Elesa can only dodge
stark berry
I mean except attack
Even defense is pretty low
But the thing that i missed the most was unflappable
Damn regirock flinches
echo crypt
It's a bit funny for me to defend a unit this hard just because they can be "useful" in one battle you do only once every other month
stark berry
I never said she's strong, it's just that it seems like she's liepard level of bad
bronze dragon
Not Liepard, just Looker tier
stark berry
I think a bit more than looker tier, but definitely not that high
Looker i guess is only a bit useful agins second bar of tapu bulu
(talking about gauntlet)
For CS maybe they are the same
bronze dragon
Well in Spark's tierlist the 3 units on top of Looker are Summer Steven, Lusamine and Clair
P Elesa isn't close to any of them
bronze dragon
Looker i guess is only a bit useful agins second bar of tapu bulu
Yeah funnily enough both are only useful for the same LG
rotund talon
what are people’s thoughts on anabel’s grid? i’ll be pulling for her but candying for grid is another issue
stark berry
what are people’s thoughts on anabel’s grid? i’ll be pulling for her but candyin...
I feel like she needs the whole grid
fading gulch
what are people’s thoughts on anabel’s grid? i’ll be pulling for her but candyin...
i think she really wants 3/5
stark berry
At 1/5 i think she only sets screens/shields and buffs spdef
Not a bad unit at 5/5, still ok at 3/5 not so great at 1/5
Personally I'm super dry on support candies, so she's an easy skip for me
Synchro healing and catalytic acceleration are at 5/5 so not that great even for gauntlet unless 5/5
5/5 is pretty good for gauntlet, constant healing and gauge acceleration
rotund talon
just pulling because she’s a favourite
by the looks of it i feel like i should either go all the way or leave her at base and accept her relative mediocrity
round bridge
She's quite good at 3/5, giving atk+crit support, better move gauge, flinch, defense buffs, all while being very tanky
rotund talon
her TM being 1/1 stifles that a bit
you’d be fishing for 2 resets to max atk and crit
round bridge
The max move refreshes once
But yeah you do need an mpr and to quad queue the max move
With the opportunity cost of losing the refresh on protect/refresh if you maxmove early
round bridge
I suppose one niche is that she buffs spdef during that, whereas others buff physical defense
bronze dragon
She buffs defense too
rotund talon
She buffs defense too
only with grid right
bronze dragon
Same as crit yes
bronze dragon
I disagree, I don't think I'd even click headbutt
Not until you don't have anything else to click
rotund talon
hmm it’s tough, max and main tm do siphon a lot of turns
maybe aggravation is more LG
this makes sense to me, but HP40 and Enduring nodes are probably divisive
bronze dragon
You also need to consider gauge
Defense, crit, gauge... Team dependant tools
This is the most generic 3/5 grid imo
rotund talon
i generally make grids based on what i think the unit does best and then implant them when it’s appropriate, of course, they are malleable
and i do change it up at times
bronze dragon
A unit this bulky shouldn't be getting close to dying so endurance is not good for her
rotund talon
even units like ssb get good use out of safety net
though she might be bulkier
and has protect
bronze dragon
This is competing with SSA Cynthia in bulk
rotund talon
This is the most generic 3/5 grid imo
yeah this is agreeable
+2 (3 with refresh) crit + 3 def, and some gauge support is a tough case for candy
but it does catapult her into firmly good territory
imo
just maybe not good relative to investment
bronze dragon
And her 4/5 is also very good
pmun + gauge accel 3
It's a complex toolbox support
rotund talon
think you’d have to forgo either crit or def to nab both pmun and gauge accel
but both not always necessary
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fringe jackal
vivid yoke
Idk about syncro cure on a non-ex support
zinc meadow
I agree, I don’t see myself sync’ing with him.
stark berry
Idk about syncro cure on a non-ex support
For gauntlet is great
Or at least for gauntlet that status
However Anabel is one of those units that can be really good the more you are willing to commit candies/gems
Personally the kind of unit i hate the most, not so great base kit, limited but great grid up to 5/5
I could let pass stuffs like holiday jasmine that at least caps at 3/5
But Anabel caps at 5/5 and even if 5/5 is not needed, isn't negligible either, 4/5 isn't really needed too, but still an improvement, 3/5 i feel is needed and i don like to commit to 3/5 just to still have the unit at like 70% of the potential
cloud crane
personally agree. synchro healing is very good for gauntlet and anabel has no means of healing allies other than that unfortunately.
quaint sleet
Has a grid been discussed for Lodge Morty?
cloud crane
not sure. but his key universal node to be taken would be TM MPR
then could take healthy healing as well.
the rest would be more or less situational imo
like flabbergast is nice if needed. synchro healing is good for LAs
ominous wind swag bag as well for longer battles like LAs
cloud crane
there's not much that is necessary to be taken on his grid other than the TM MPR
can go for ridicure on the way then
maybe something like this?
quaint sleet
Yeah i was debating between synchro heal, healthy healing and ow mgr
cloud crane
synchro heal only for gauntlet
cloud crane
for gauntlet u can even avoid the TM MPR if the striker is self sufficient
quaint sleet
Speed
cloud crane
he gets speed if he evades somehow
quaint sleet
But he needs the tm fir evasion lol
shrewd sparrow
you don't need healthy healing
cloud crane
for gauntlet u may or may not require flabbergast as well
or need defense buffs quicker, so it depends on what u r using them for
that's why the recommended grids doc doesn't bother with gauntlet grids
there's just so many variations
bronze dragon
personally agree. synchro healing is very good for gauntlet and anabel has no me...
Well Anabel maxes your teams defenses, gives them crit shield and light screen/reflect
Your team shouldn't be needing much healing
Sometimes it's easy to forget how weak most LA hit if they don't have crit or hitting a unit with buffed defenses 
cloud crane
I guess with a TM refresh she can be quite sufficient for longer runs. just need to time the TM appropriately
i think the field multiplier is going to be interesting in practical usage. she may be a better offensive support. contrary to Master passives, that would affect the sync move as well right?
bronze dragon
Yeah master passives are only for attack moves
static dust
I’m thinking Vigilance might not be worth it on Pallow’s grid, most other grids it’s either not far in or it’s got other useful tiles around it, but none of hers are imo. Dire hit mpr is pretty useless since nothing debuffs Crit and sync cure is niche.
static dust
Why are all of her tiles so expensive wth
Just realized she only has Triage Tank and not Team Triage Tank 
sweet parcel
Team Fist Bump 9 is already op lol
bronze dragon
Well maybe healing allies every single turn is a bit too much
Not just your turn, but any turn
I think it's fine
Just that triage tank is better than fist bump
static dust
Tbf SC Lillie has both, with a 1 gauge spammable move too in addition to Potions
sweet parcel
Lillie's Team Fist Bump is only 20% to balance out
bronze dragon
Tbf SC Lillie has both, with a 1 gauge spammable move too in addition to Potions
Yeah SC Lillie is a noticeable better unit
P Mallow feels slow paced even in her support
She needs to spend 8 turns to do what SC Lillie does in 2
round bridge
Mallow's grid improves her a lot more than Ingo's grid improves him
bronze dragon
It's just a matter of if you want P Mallow to work
I'd say if you want P Mallow yeah she has to be 3/5
old niche
So I guess Ingo is good at 1/5?
bronze dragon
Yes
stark berry
for gauntlet u may or may not require flabbergast as well
Flabbergast i think is only useful for uxie, but for 1st bar Morty can only buff and can't touch ominous wind but If your unit has confusion or interference multiplier, flabbergast may still be useful
muted stag
How does this look? I struggled with her grid
sly fulcrum
That looks like a very specific grid
For LG?
I would just go with this.. 8 free energy
icy raven
How does this look? I struggled with her grid
This is mines
placid heart
She really does not need MGR especially with her tm and catalytic kick
bronze dragon
And if you just want mgr you'd go for apple acid, not dragon pulse
echo crypt
bad grid? what a surprise
sly fulcrum
Why would u even tap dragon pulse lol
placid heart
Staggering 4
placid heart
🐴
sly fulcrum
Genuinely curious how this dude didn't end up taking Apple acid mgr and went so far up for dragon pulse mgr
zinc meadow
This is mines
Can you please not show a grid that doesn’t work especially if you did not compare it with the recommends? Please?
placid heart
So like this?
gentle sun
You can save like 3 energy by grabbing the Speed or Defense tile instead of the Sync base power tile
sly fulcrum
So like this?
Yeah how can someone just miss the apple acid mgr 9 and decide dragon pulse is better
But honestly I wouldn't go for triage tank 4 since it's only half the time
zinc meadow
I like grabbing synx tiles on my supports
Really? I’m more of a utility gridder.
echo crypt
Richu is built different
placid heart
I always grid for utility as well but if I a sync tile is close to what I want to grab I'll definetly also get a sync tile lel
echo crypt
It's the copium to want support syncs to hit as hard as techs
sly fulcrum
I think quick cure, stern stuff, catalytic kick 9 form the core of the grid
placid heart
Its funny seeing stuff like hilbert hit 3K syncs against a side if I am using him to support Kris + May
sly fulcrum
The rest of the grid depend on your team imo
placid heart
It's the copium to want support syncs to hit as hard as techs <:SophoKEK:6819165...
Dawn my beloved
merry onyx
Is wide open not recommended for darach's DPS grid? It isn't in the pinned docs
gentle sun
Probably because of how long it takes to set up
echo crypt
between debuffing attack and then having to take care of evasiveness, yeah, you end up attacking very rarely
tranquil raven
Well maybe healing allies every single turn is a bit too much
Laughs in SC Lillie
Yeah Pallow's grid feels really awkward it always feels like I'm 1 energy short
From something I really like
I think I'll roll with this for the time being
merry onyx
team sync cure is a little situational
stuck compass
How good is appletun? I'm imagining that catalytic kick and hype up9 makes it decent as a support for special tech/strike unit, as an tanky alternative to sabrina
But it's kinda harsh to need to 3/5 another support
Still wondering if I shld pull it
tranquil raven
Pallow's whole kit feels situational so I figured to make her grid like that
Just in case "oops my unit got hit with the 10% burn"
bronze dragon
*Laughs in SC Lillie*
That's every opponents turn, that's why it's just team fist bump 1
bronze dragon
I think I'll roll with this for the time being
That grid is VERY stage specific
sly fulcrum
Just that triage tank is better than fist bump
Hard agree on this
sweet parcel
Im sure you asked this question before
cloud crane
Mallow gains more at 3/5. Ingo is great at 2/5 onwards
sweet parcel
He is already great at base
bronze dragon
I also like the couple defense buffs he gets from 2/5
But not really a candy reason
zinc meadow
Nah I think he’s fine staying at 1/5
glossy birch
How necessary is SSDianthas 3/5 grid?
cloud crane
Not very necessary. She's great at base but gets top tier at 3/5
young sparrow
Im using bea nanu and phoebe for the last E4
@gentle sun
But they both are squishy
They work or do i change?
gentle sun
There’s no need to ping me specifically, there’s lots of people on the server who can assist.
For Hard mode those 3 can work, but you can definitely replace Nanu with a 2nd Support to help with Attack buffs, move gauge, or survivability
placid heart
Crying irl
I swear I play a diff game than everuone@else at times idt I’ve ever recorded a video for someone and it’s worked for them
echo crypt
Well, that's not in any way a you problem lol
quaint sleet
Anybody who records a video for someone is a saint in my view
I wouldn't have known using presync silver or Maxie+BpSurge without Joey
placid heart
Well, that's not in any way a you problem lol
It feels like it and I really like helping lel
young sparrow
I swear I play a diff game than everuone@else at times idt I’ve ever recorded a ...
U helped me clear the first one lol
I learnt how to do it from ur vid
placid heart
I’m not just saying you I’ve recorded tons of vids for the past year to help and it’s almost never worked or it has but it was extremely frustrating for them when for me it’s easy lel
young sparrow
LoL
I just got the lucky skills u had and i was golden
Did invest in grid for blue a bit
Now i need help with the last E4
placid heart
We should likely move lel
vivid yoke
So, I ended up getting Mallow. I know she wants 3/5 badly
Is it better than holiday jasmine's 3/5 or ss brendan? I didnt really plan on candying ss brendan since his base kit is sufficient for me
bronze dragon
No
vivid yoke
I think i'll do what i do for the majority of supports I get and make her 2/5
And decide down the road if i get extra candies
zinc meadow
Huh, I would think candying SS Brendan is better than worrying about Mallow being 3/5
echo crypt
considering she is kinda discount SS Brendan, absolutely
vivid yoke
Huh, I would think candying SS Brendan is better than worrying about Mallow bein...
Ss brendan is fully functional at 1/5
3/5 ss brendan might be better than 3/5 mallow but i think the amount of improvement mallow gets is bigger
zinc meadow
Huh, she gets Impervious too?
vivid yoke
Right now im gonna rock 2/5. I have a lot of 2/5 supports
zinc meadow
Same but tbh, that was a dumb af move on my part
vivid yoke
Summer hilda, ss kris, fall caitlin, and holiday jasmine
And now pal mallow
Pallow? Are we calling her Pallow?
zinc meadow
I guess you can lol
sinful smelt
Mappletun
zinc meadow
But yeah, my 2/5’s are SS Kris, NY Lillie, Teapot Lillie, and Pal Bea.
placid heart
I’d def choose between SSKris and Millie
sinful smelt
Are they good 2/5s? My go to 2/5 is Faitlin, as 2/5 is when she gets mpr.
sinful smelt
I've just discovered 2/5 SS Kris, haven't seen if 3/5 is substantial for her
placid heart
It’s a very amazing 3/5
zinc meadow
So I’ve seen
placid heart
I had her 2/5 for a bit and it’s like an okay one not amazing but there’s some neat stuff to play with it
Like staggering
zinc meadow
Yee
vivid yoke
I always ask, is it worth the extra candy for 3/5? Or do i get more value making someone else 2/5
vivid yoke
And with pokefairs getting expanded grids, 2/5 is getting more value nowadays
Since they get nodes at 2, 4, and 5
zinc meadow
Summer hilda, ss kris, fall caitlin, and holiday jasmine
If we’re going off this, they prefer 3/5
WAIT
Not Fall Caitlin tho lol
The others do
vivid yoke
2/5 has enough passives to work for most of them
Ive been strongly considering 3/5 for jasmine tho
elfin crypt
Which Jasmine
placid heart
Holiday
clever thorn
Steelix
glad bramble
I need a sync grid for Mallow and Apple
I got her 4/5 from whaling out on the Tiered
sweet parcel
you can scroll up a bit to see some examples
placid heart
Summer hilda, ss kris, fall caitlin, and holiday jasmine
I thought they said holiday wooos
final bloom
Would vigilance be the best lucky skill for appletun
sweet parcel
Yes
stark berry
Would vigilance be the best lucky skill for appletun
Since is too costly to get in grid i would say yes
summer hawk
No
summer hawk
Is this decent so far?
zinc meadow
The document is right there…please go compare it.
summer hawk
Which one tho
zinc meadow
zinc meadow
There’s no best one. Just grid the 3/5 ones and switch depending on your needs.
The game has preset options.
zinc meadow
PoMa Tools.
summer hawk
What do I even read?
zinc meadow
You know what a sync grid looks like, right?
echo crypt
They are hexagons...
zinc meadow
You see the lit up tiles?
echo crypt
And not all grids have the same shape
zinc meadow
Tap the X…….
summer hawk
I did and it have settings
zinc meadow
Then exit out of those
summer hawk
Ohhh now it’s showing
zinc meadow
clever thorn
primal wasp
How viable are Evasion Based Builds anyways?
It would probably need something that lowers Accuracy and Boosts Evasion, but Sync/MAX Moves don’t check that so I think this strat is pretty low?
bronze dragon
How viable are Evasion Based Builds anyways?
They're not, that's why NY Lillie is bad
Evasion buffs and accuracy debuffs are the same in regards to dodge and they use the same counter, capping at 6
placid heart
50% chance to get hit 100% of the time
bronze dragon
Explanation is pinned in #916852044692856834
placid heart
I was thinking of running this with shauntal and have someone else nuke how does this seem
Didn’t realize the bottom part wasn’t conmecyed
bronze dragon
First, it's not connected. Second, pick Shadow Ball BP nodes instead of SpAtk stat nodes
Rest is fine, critical eye 1 is an option depending of team
placid heart
Oh alr
Haven’t even thought of a team yet lel I’m very excited about the grid tho lel
stark berry
I think is a pretty solid grid, but BP is better than spa +10 since her base spa is pretty high
Spa/att + 10 over bp is better for units that have a low base stats (like anni Steven or SS Erika) or for units that have really high BP moves like hyper beam
placid heart
I was told lel
stark berry
I was told lel
I meant that there are cases where stats are better than BP
Ofc not chandelure case
placid heart
Oh
stark berry
Otherwise it may seems that BP is always better than stats
Critical eye is great if you plan to use her with power boosted sycamore
stark berry
Evasion buffs and accuracy debuffs are the same in regards to dodge and they use...
They aren't the same, debuffs are affected by mitigation, but there's no mitigation against buffs
Against the center generally accuracy debuffs are half as effective as evasion boosts, while against the sides it should be the same
At least in champion stadium, generally the mid has 50% stat mitigation while the sides have no mitigation
However i feel like this kit should have been Drifloon kit, since in the main series he has flare boost and is generally used with a flame orb, while chandelure is immune to burns
primal wasp
I really don’t think that Sycamore gets anything too worthwild in his grid expansion
Which is sad
gentle sun
Team Sharp Entry is great though
Even just TSE 1 is huge, and that’s not even considering some of his other buffs
zinc meadow
I vibe with Freevenge and Team Sharp Entry
Too bad he can’t max Crit
I would’ve loved Focus Group more tbh
primal wasp
Even just TSE 1 is huge, and that’s not even considering some of his other buffs
Does it trigger after he Syncs too?
zinc meadow
Does it trigger after he Syncs too?
That only applies if he changes form. In this case, no.
If it was a Mega or a different form like Zygarde or Necrozma, yes, it would apply.
primal wasp
Yeah that’s I thought, just double checking
zinc meadow
sweet parcel
Still cant buff Defense or has something to counter Steel weakness
stuck compass
How viable are Evasion Based Builds anyways?
As amazing as Liepard is in PM I guess 😌
The best way to not get hit is to flinchlock the enemy instead
primal wasp
Damn
I was so excited by Lodge Morty being Evasion Based
Was thinking of some kind of team around that
ashen bough
The best kind of evasion in poma is ||invulnerable moves like fly of Falkner||
soft night
I think he works best with NY Dawn.
stark berry
I was so excited by Lodge Morty being Evasion Based
But he's bulky enough to actually sustain some hits
Evasion is just an extra
primal wasp
Oh yeah he some decent stats
stark berry
Is better to trigger ominous wind to buff his defenses
Then dodging something will still be nice
He has flabbergast 4 too in grid
Confusion and paralysis proc still count as misses
open halo
is there a text type to open the sync grid info?
maybe internet/phone cant handle the app or idk
zinc meadow
is there a text type to open the sync grid info?
Did you try reloading the page?