#Sync Grids
sly fulcrum
lament plaza
So why is NY Lisia rated higher? I heard that she's pretty boring, and people are going for SS Diantha
tranquil socket
any good?
sly fulcrum
So why is NY Lisia rated higher? I heard that she's pretty boring, and people ar...
She is boring but she hits hard
SS diantha is more "fun" because of rock zone and team wide buff and enemy wide debuff
icy raven
Any better route than this
bronze dragon
cunning fox
Im struggling with hin tbh. Hes Just not doing much damage
placid heart
hes not a damage dealer he helps other fairies do more damage]
gentle sun
Well he has a good Sync nuke
cunning fox
Not at 1/5 💀
gentle sun
Ah, right, Mega base power penalty. Still not terrible and he buffs other Fairy types significantly
bronze dragon
His sync at 1/5 is still good
660 spatk
But yeah he's not a damage dealer, he enhances other fairies very well
echo crypt
Yes, non EX is 40ish less of course, but still over 600 
gentle sun
Wow
placid heart
Good game design
cloud crane
Wouldn't be a bad idea to EX SS Wally at base itself
sweet parcel
i usually dont sync with him and i have other pairs to ex
so i hold off exing him until i get him to 3/5
cloud crane
oh. guessing its because of Diantha. honestly the head start 2 and the speedy entry are nice reasons to sync with him too even if Diantha needs the mega
copper verge
Zone setters have disgusting Syncs at base anyway, don't get fooled by 3/5 multipliers, 1/5 EX is already huge dmg
cloud crane
true that. just those weird sync hogging megas that come in the way.
best part is the zone setters almost all have the easiest setup for their base sync at least
except the spotlights i guess like courtney & if extending to terrain, volkner, bianca and probably a few more
shadow wadi
I think I've seen something like this before. 
Hm, yes, this is definitely Kali's sync grid.
sweet parcel
solid comet
How important is 3/5 for NY Lissia?
Is it worth using candies on her or is she good enough at 1/5?
solid comet
Okay, dang I’m piling up on striker candies lol
Have 7 now
Cause strikers are all just good enough at 1/5 from the sounds of it
gentle sun
If you like her and are willing to spend the candies it’s definitely worthwhile, it’s just that she doesn’t need it outside of Sync nuke
solid comet
Nah, it’s not about her specifically
I wanna be smart with my candies
But look at how many 1/5 strikers I have
Just cause I always ask and am told that all these units are fine at 1/5
Except summer Lyra, but she’s bad even at 3/5 so not worth it
bronze dragon
You can candy a striker you think you'll enjoy using at full potential
7 candies is too much saving 
solid comet
Ideally I use my candies on units that are great at 3/5 but suck at 1/5
sly fulcrum
She doesn't suck at 1/5 but at 3/5 she can really carry fairy
bronze dragon
There's no limited strikers like that tbh
icy raven
This is what I'm thinking
sly fulcrum
Also at 3/5 no more giga miss
bronze dragon
They most unlock a nuke at 3/5 and a couple DPS multipliers
That's why you have 7 candies
solid comet
Yup, I’m hoping Gloria will get a Cynthia level treatment with her expansion
Because then I will 100% candy her
sly fulcrum
Even then u at most need 4 candies lol
bronze dragon
I mean from 1/5 to 5/5 Gloria from all units...
bronze dragon
Power boost
solid comet
I will probably never 5/5 any unit
sly fulcrum
Besides it's gonna be hard to top mawile tbh
solid comet
I don’t have Mawile unfortunately
bronze dragon
Top? She'd want to go along
solid comet
My steel options are OG Gloria and OG Steven
Steven getting a power boost would be good too
But I already 3/5’d him so it wouldn’t fix this dilemma
bronze dragon
He's more likely to get it than Gloria
stuck compass
What sync level is cynthia best at?
unique wedge
well optimal would be 5/5
but 3/5 is "best"
3/5 is where her sync and dps become relevant for most usage
5/5 is where she gets to bring her own sandstorm and expand it, also makes Slash viable
shadow wadi
also 10% more overall damage
stuck compass
I'm currently at 4/5 and am wondering if I shld go for slash or sth
Using the 3/5 grid atm tho
vivid yoke
I think the main value of 5/5 is sand alert
Everything else is marginal
The extra turns of sand are the main tangible benefit i think
stuck compass
I pair her with hippo and exca
vivid yoke
Hippo especially is great and keeping sand up on its own
bronze dragon
I pair her with hippo and exca
The thing is maybe with 5/5 you won't
copper verge
3/5 is what you need for "optimal comps", 4 & 5/5 are only useful to open up more diversity in her comps
stuck compass
The thing is maybe with 5/5 you won't
Who are good replacements
fringe jackal
Who are good replacements
with 5/5 you can set up your own sand, but if you have ingo on your team you dont have to select those specific sync tiles
also u probably dont need both hippo and excadrill, maybe just excadrill and slap on another tank
bronze dragon
Who are good replacements
Any of the Hilbert and his copies, Bertha + Courtney, Gauge support + heavy gauge damage dealer like SS Gio or Raihan, etc
There's too many combinations now
stuck compass
I don't have courtney sadly
Will landorus work with Bertha?
That way cyn just uses Xatk and TM i guess
bronze dragon
You don't need Landorus for that but yes
bronze dragon
This is an example of a fun team you can run now and you shouldn't couldn't before
stuck compass
Sadly I only have cynthia 😔
sly fulcrum
Deoxys just there to provide speed and sync accel lol
tawny cloud
Can someone provide me with a good sync grid for 2/5 SS N?
cloud crane
Just take the accuracy tiles I guess
Pinpoint entry
And healing hail, comforting hail if using with hail
copper verge
Sadly I only have cynthia 😔
Yeah everyone forgets good old Acerola exists 
sly fulcrum
Sand team back then surviving on her
static dust
so explain to me the purpose of Diantha's new grids. Is it to...get 2 syncs in, like a support ex then her own? I really don't see much of a purpose to her new tiles and recommended grids for 4/5 5/5
bronze dragon
It's just nodes to have an easier time using her and some countdown synergy
Along SS Wally you can get an easy -3 with her TM propulsion 9
static dust
I don't think they really fixed any of her issues tbh
bronze dragon
What are her issues for you?
ancient arch
so explain to me the purpose of Diantha's new grids. Is it to...get 2 syncs in, ...
I already had her 5/5 bcs funny circumstances and yes, it's quite disappointing if compared to other upgraded grids (Raihan Cynthia ssLeaf)
Energy is the huge bottleneck here
The only move lvl that fully benefit from this upgrade is 2/5 and now it's actually worth upgrading from 1/5
static dust
for Speedy Entry 1 or On A Roll 1?
ancient arch
Spatk drop and speed is ehat she want in first place, so yes
static dust
2 speed buff doesn't help her against 3-4 gauge spam, and if you want spa debuffs you might as well go for 3/5 for Devastation and sync nodes
bronze dragon
She has recharging strike 9 too
That's why I was asking what are her issues according to you
Imo it was speed and that was addressed
static dust
plus she would struggle to -6 SpA before sync if she needs to buff herself, making her team options a bit more limited
bronze dragon
She has 2 nodes to debuff spatk
static dust
she's not fast enough to take advantage of 1 speed buff, SE2 I wouldn't have an issue with
ancient arch
She wans't able to debuff before
30% wasnt realible onaroll and snarling thing is kinda good
Plus yes, +2 speed is good but not enough, better than nothing
Brainpower was truly needed i think
static dust
and RS9 means if you want to keep having gauges, you have to use Dazzling Gleam over Moonblast which is...not helping her damage either
ancient arch
It would justify her slow kit
static dust
1 gauge for 4 gauges, still suffers from being slow. on DG you get 3 gauges back supposedly, according to what others said about the passive from SSilda
bronze dragon
Yes, it is better for Dazzling Gleam, which doesn't mean it's bad for Moonblast
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If you have gauge issues, you have:
-Speedy Entry 1
-Recharging Strike 9
-TM Fleet Feet 1 -
If you have set up issues, you have:
-On a Roll 1
-Satisfied Snicker 9
Those are her 2 biggest issues and they have been addressed
ancient arch
Then we have initial synchro healing 1
placid heart
she's not fast enough to take advantage of 1 speed buff, SE2 I wouldn't have an ...
If you ideally pair her with sswally he has team speedy entry 3 at 3/5
ancient arch
That's why i'm pissed abt 5/5
bronze dragon
Then we have initial synchro healing 1
That's just the meme corner slot, DeNa admin was feeling cheeky
placid heart
They swapped her and Sycamore’s grid so he’ll get brain power
Not very confident in my grid making skills (maybe it’s in the doc) but I’d personally run smth like this if I had swally
And run ssbrendan as the support 
bronze dragon
That's good
placid heart
I already have double hs Brendan so I’d maybe just give sswaly smth idk 
cunning idol
What’s a good grid for NY Lisia? I’ve been debating using a candy to get her 3/5, or staying with 2/5.
placid heart
Check the pins
cunning idol
Oo thanks
bronze dragon
I already have double hs Brendan so I’d maybe just give sswaly smth idk <:Hilber...
I think SS Wally always wants HS1 as LS
placid heart
Oh alr 
bronze dragon
If you get lucky with Propulsion 1 you can get sync turn 1
HS2 SS Wally HS2 SS Brendan Prop9 + Prop1 Diantha
placid heart
I see that’s funny
placid heart
Oo thanks
Forgot to mention this doesn’t apply just to This channel you may have a question that’s already answered in pins of other channels
bronze dragon
HS2 SS Wally HS2 SS Brendan Prop9 + Prop1 Diantha
Or you can grid HS1 with Diantha although it's in a bad spot
placid heart
If only double down and hs swapped places 💔
stuck compass
Yeah everyone forgets good old Acerola exists <:AcerolaPensive:60846444914108008...
My remark was purely on the team comp shared tbh
shadow wadi
He has many moves and grid tiles, next.
kindred stag
Smh where drain punch grid
jolly thicket
How to build NY Lisia for Giga Impact with Ramming Speed, TM MP Refresh and Super Prep 9 and Quick Attack: Defense Crush 9?
Best I can do is -2 energy with her with the necessary stuff
bronze dragon
That's because you can't pick them all
jolly thicket
That's because you can't pick them all
Well, can my request build be granted?
jolly thicket
Don't invest in quick attack tbh
I'm not, I'm using it to debuff
bronze dragon
That's investing into it 
jolly thicket
I'm also trying to see Lisia's largest with her Giga Impact
With 10 stacks of PMUM, fairy zone and -6 defense
bronze dragon
How do you intend to do that
jolly thicket
CCalem and SS Wally
sweet parcel
CCalem 
jolly thicket
With SS Wally having Def. Crush 2
bronze dragon
You need an absurd amount of mp refreshes
jolly thicket
And that too
243764, 246473, 249181, 251890, 254598, 257307, 260015, 262724, 265432, 268141, 270849
This would be the result with perfect luck, 3 sync buffs, -6 defense with 5 mitigation, 10 stacks of PMUN with SEUN, fairy zone and +6 speed for Ramming Speed
And also -1 fairy rebuff
Well, this isn't possible anyways because of lacking energy so yeah
kindred stag
can't you just drop quick attack def crush
jolly thicket
Well, I am trying to find the max damage for Lisia's Giga Impact
sweet parcel
and pomatools is the perfect place to find that
jolly thicket
I just hate it when full grid synergy is gated by lack of energy
Just like 
for example
kindred stag
243764, 246473, 249181, 251890, 254598, 257307, 260015, 262724, 265432, 268141, ...
what's the target
jolly thicket
?
kindred stag
on which target did you achieve these numbers
what's the defense stat of the opponent
jolly thicket
PoMa Tools
jolly thicket
what's the defense stat of the opponent
It's full set up
jolly thicket
that 78 what is it for you
Same
I put Enlightenment 5 because that's the usual stat mitigation
kindred stag
238021, 240666, 243310, 245955, 248600, 251245, 253889, 256534, 259179, 261823, 264468
best I can do with 3 sync buffs uh
jolly thicket
238021, 240666, 243310, 245955, 248600, 251245, 253889, 256534, 259179, 261823, ...
Max speed stat?
kindred stag
jolly thicket
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/team?v0=000301065802&s0=5&l0=140&r0=5&p0=0&a0=18040...
Theme skills
kindred stag
oop
255079, 257913, 260747, 263582, 266416, 269250, 272084, 274918, 277753, 280587, 283421
jolly thicket
255079, 257913, 260747, 263582, 266416, 269250, 272084, 274918, 277753, 280587, ...
Is that without stat mitigations?
kindred stag
with
jolly thicket
Hmmmmm
jolly thicket
you asked for best damage
Can I see what you did?
kindred stag
so i put weather warrior kek
kindred stag
well everuthing's on the link i shared
jolly thicket
Makes sense I guess with CCalem
248096, 250852, 253609, 256365, 259122, 261879, 264635, 267392, 270149, 272905, 275662
How come this is my damage even with WW3?
kindred stag
did you put rebuff -1
jolly thicket
Ok then
283421, 286570, 289719, 292868, 296018, 299167, 302316, 305465, 308614, 311763, 314912
This is probably the highest damage she can deal at 5/5 with Giga Impact full setup
With WW3 too
bronze dragon
Solo runs are pinned in LG channel and they have builds attached
formal abyss
kindred stag
Any gridd reccomandations for an ss lyra solo ?
don't
cursive trail
Any gridd reccomandations for an ss lyra solo ?
Don't even think about doing it
jolly thicket
torpid sluice
This grid good for aeroblue?
Focus : 2v3 CS MM, rock weak
Partner : 3/5 redlax
That 4 energy can be used anywhere else
primal wasp
Doesn’t it cost less to use the Ancient Power PU?
It’s definitely cheaper to use the Ancient Power PUs instead of the MGR
Soften Up and CS1 are pretty good nodes to hit for Nuking ontype
bronze dragon
CS1 is worse than a sync BP node
bronze dragon
It’s definitely cheaper to use the Ancient Power PUs instead of the MGR
7 < 2x4
I'd do this, it lets you sync turn 2. Only drawback is losing +10 accuracy but you're nuking ontype with SE^ next
torpid sluice
Doesn’t it cost less to use the Ancient Power PU?
Actually, no
If I remove AP MGR, I need to take the above 2 AP nodes, which cost 8 energy, while the MGR node is of 7 energy
primal wasp
No because you don’t need that HP +10
torpid sluice
I'd do this, it lets you sync turn 2. Only drawback is losing +10 accuracy but y...
Will I be able to sync twice if using redlax and doing 2v3?
torpid sluice
No because you don’t need that HP +10
You need it for the sync node at mid
primal wasp
Ideally you would hit the other sync nodes
primal wasp
CS1 is worse than a sync BP node
Is this outdated then? Or is there something I am missing?
Does the bot need to be updated
torpid sluice
Ideally you would hit the other sync nodes
You won't be able to take it, you will reach negative
I tried it
primal wasp
Okay so then if that’s true, the Sync Grids for the Bots should maybe be updated
torpid sluice
What?
primal wasp
If CS1 doesn’t matter, compared to the Node, then the Doc should reflect that for accuracy
That’s what I am saying
Especially when we just tell people to reference it all the time and it’s not fully accurate
bronze dragon
The recommended doc grid is one thing
This is another
CS1 boosts hyperbeam, which doesn't have any other multiplier, so it's more generally useful
Here we are looking to finish the stage with sync
primal wasp
I guess
bronze dragon
Also remember it's recommendations, not something you must copy paste
copper verge
Is this outdated then? Or is there something I am missing?
This one gives better Hyper Beam consistency.
When someone told you "BP node > CS1" they mean strictly for the nuke itself. The nuke there is still great while giving more power to Hyper Beam, which imo is better but ofc that's personal. Those are grid examples, not universal set in stone choices ^^
primal wasp
I know, we just push it hard sometimes and without explanation, some info is lost on the player base
Like I didn’t know that CS1 < Sync Node for example
bronze dragon
That's just a matter of doing the calc
And Spark has a big chunk of text in his doc explaining everything you need to understand
copper verge
Well the good thing on pomatool is that the dmg calc is directly available with the grid. The one looking for a very specific thing can do that (ofc they're too lazy to do so), can't really include all miscellaneous informations
primal wasp
I think it can be helpful to explain somethings and that’s what I am trying to get at it
bronze dragon
It is explained
copper verge
Yeah the problem is how far you go, because there is much more than a dmg calc I'd explain in that case. Like the team comps you use and why sometimes you'd grab a "self sufficiency" type of tile vs more raw power etc..
this is at least 10 grids per Sync pair + 1 paragraph per grid to explain
I'm not doing this 
Also it's funny because the other grid for Blue is literally in the doc 
bronze dragon
torpid sluice
Hmm, so...
Racer bro, This is the way I most of the time do CS rock weak 2v3 :
Turn 1: rock smash and aeroblue's TM
Turn 2: rock smash and aeroblue's TM
Turn 3: 'You and Me' on aeroblue and hyper beam
Turn 4: 'You and Me' on aeroblue and dire hit+ all ('cause I dont have gauge)
Sync with aeroblue
Turn 5: Max Move (if MPR didn't work on redlax's TM) or 'You and Me' on aeroblue and hyper beam
Turn 6: 'You and Me' on aeroblue and hyper beam/double edge
Mid finished
Then 'You and Me'/mini potion all and double edge/hyper beam on sides as per required
copper verge
And I gotta say the main difference here for me is not some much about dmg itself (the difference between overkilling the opponent and overkilling the opponent had never mattered to me) but rather more about trading HB accuracy and dmg for faster setup (Sharp Entry and HS1) and more sync dmg. Again it's more about the team and gameplan you're going for, which I can't know for yourself ^^
torpid sluice
Ik this stuff is not meant for here, but I want to ask how will I be able to sync second time with my units, to effectively use your grid
bronze dragon
Hmm, so...
Racer bro, This is the way I most of the time do CS rock weak 2v3 : ...
Just use Red's TM twice, C Blue's TM twice and whoever in the third spot using 2 moves. Kukui Leer for example
copper verge
I don't think you can double Sync 2v3 is all mate
bronze dragon
Then you sync and stage is over or you finish with 1 hyperbeam
copper verge
thing is they wants to sync twice but 2v3 lel
torpid sluice
Just use Red's TM twice, C Blue's TM twice and whoever in the third spot using 2...
That's the thing, no 3rd spot
bronze dragon
copper verge
Again, you can't
bronze dragon
Yes
copper verge
Yes, I mean just look at it for yourself and see your gameplan
torpid sluice
Then no problem
bronze dragon
If it doesn't ko mid, one HB will definitely finish it
copper verge
it does work
bright flicker
does anyone here have a build on ash on an electric terrain? i have copied all the build from the link and just want to ask if there are other build suggestions
gentle sun
I mean, Ash only has 2 Electric Terrain tiles and they're fairly optional, so any of his builds work
pallid oak
I don’t think it is possible to grab all the sync multipliers AND Power Posture on NY Dawn’s grid. Meaning i have to sacrifice Power Posture, which is a bummer.
gentle sun
You’ll have to drop one of them if you want to do a hybrid build, yeah
sweet parcel
old niche
SSKorrina or Lear in select scout?
elfin crypt
Hmm double striker candies…
Ehh keeping them for now
Tempted to 3/5 SSHilda but I never sync with her haha
Oh actually SConia could really use them
cloud crane
SSKorrina or Lear in select scout?
wow. u have a choice between 2 snatch users. honestly both are great. SSKorrina really needs candies though at least to 2/5 or else only 3 spectral thiefs
depends on your roster. SS Korrina being physical and ghost does give her some points generally
sweet parcel
yeah Korrina is the only physical Ghost besides SSR Cynthia
oh and Morty too, but both Morty and Cynthia have some issue with their physical moves
shadow wadi
Acerola dps, Acerola dps 
sinful smelt
Phoebe
sweet parcel
cloud crane
Hope Morty includes the best one, Fall Morty
cloud crane
can't blame anyone for that
elfin crypt
Good ol’ Farty
pallid oak
You just miss one sync BP node
Appreciate this, thanks!
winter quiver
Ok, I am considering giving a tech candy to one of my units, so I would like some thoughts on the 4/5 and 5/5 grids of Ss Leaf, Marnie, Hilbert, and Wally
cloud crane
Would say Hilbert, Leaf, Wally and least Marnie. Probably leaf is higher only because she was quite dated before the grid upgrade
Depends on your roster as well I guess
4/5+ grids are usually not needed that much
And hence not recommended
winter quiver
This is my squad. I'm considering SS Leaf since I want noxious hit for that sweet sweet debuff
But then again, how much does all that debuff matter and where does it matter?
cloud crane
Yeah. Doesn't matter that much. Keeping tech candies for the next broken tech they release would be a good option
winter quiver
Ss Diantha it is then, thanks
cloud crane
Funny thing is that she also wouldn't need it but yeah save away
stark berry
Ss Diantha it is then, thanks
However 5/5 is a bit steep
Not an huge fan of getting units to 3/5 and still have locked nodes
icy raven
However 5/5 is a bit steep
5/5 to me is a highway robbery in this game now 🎮 .
zinc meadow
It’s just huge expectations if you ask me. Not many sync pairs would want it, especially when you can just do good team comps.
echo crypt
5/5 grids should be seen as luxury and nothing else
stuck idol
are there any other interesting grids for 5/5 Raihan besided the cakewalk one from the doc?
icy raven
are there any other interesting grids for 5/5 Raihan besided the cakewalk one fr...
Didn't know he got cakewalk
zinc meadow
are there any other interesting grids for 5/5 Raihan besided the cakewalk one fr...
I don’t see any other recommended ones.
zinc meadow
Didn't know he got cakewalk
5/5 tile.
stark berry
So wormadam really has on a roll 4 for struggle bug
shadow wadi
Yup, and it does absolutely nothing
stark berry
Next lodge unit, rotom fan with Swift: piercing gaze
shadow wadi
I'm surprised they're not on it already - it's much easier to spot than vague-ish Genesect passive
stuck compass
That said I love wormadam's kit tho. 1st spa spe buffer after alakazam (I think)
merry onyx
mespirit 
stuck compass
I think you're gonna need to include blissey and arcanine if u include Mesprit
merry onyx
you didnt* specifically say spatk and speed max-er
and i personally wouldnt pair marley with them since it's only a 40(?)% chance w/ flamethrower
while blissey can guarantee at least +2 speed with pep rally and mespirit has it all in base
stuck compass
Mesprits TM raises 1 speed btw
But it does get team fast track4 on confusion too
I guess the statement abt Marley is fair, I valued her 6speed in 2 turns a bit too highly I guess. It will take a decently long time to get to +2spa with 40%
sly fulcrum
Yup, and it does absolutely nothing
Wow an actual tile that's worse than accuracy ceiling
bronze dragon
There's people who want to use SC Guzma raising his accuracy
They should have made accuracy ceiling a base kit passive to deny those people
copper verge
Sync Grid Doc update: #1008010844547842079 message
We're done for the month 
zinc meadow
cunning fox
Thoughts on my silly latias grid? (I saw stat leech 3 and couldn’t resist)
copper verge
You can specialize in more debuffing with BB OAR : https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/65300/18400?s=3&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBggLDhATFBcZJScqLQ
stat leech alone won't really be enough to handle Latias gimmick, and it's not like you need Smart cookie so yeah ^^
icy raven
Thoughts on my silly latias grid? (I saw stat leech 3 and couldn’t resist)
I recommend using this ass a base then add on more grids that you like
bronze dragon
That's better
zinc meadow
Like this maybe?
I like this one for sure.
copper verge
Just like what I shared with a slight change in path, which is fine since you don't need Quick Cure against Latias
sonic scroll
For Dawn SS,
Which sync grid setup should I use for champion stadium? I see a lot of choices on there.
merry onyx
test them all and see what you like most
i know one has sync countdown so pair her with other partners who can shave off turns
stuck idol
wrong channel oops
sly fulcrum
Slap hs1 on ss dawn and grid her with the 2 crisis countdown 9 tiles
She can skip a full cycle herself that way
merry onyx
is it worth to get vigilance in lodge dawn's grid or is it better to just lucky skill it
sweet parcel
i would say yes
merry onyx
what should her lucky skill be then? mind games maybe?
merry onyx
gotcha
stuck compass
Tbh I rather just get vigilance as the lucky skill and give her more energy for other nodes
cloud crane
I guess she doesn't have much useful stuff especially with that meme on a roll tile
They would fix it eventually though
sly fulcrum
I just went with mind games 2 since it synergies with what she's buffing
bronze dragon
Yes, there's no real value in extra energy for her
stuck compass
I actually took a lot of nodes at the btm and top left for lodge dawn I feel she is kinda short of energy with just those
But I guess mind games 2 is good too since it gives you an additional chance to debuff spatk
sweet parcel
*spdef
bronze dragon
I actually took a lot of nodes at the btm and top left for lodge dawn I feel she...
Like this you're done with her grid with 7 energy left, anything extra is just whatever
stuck compass
Like this you're done with her grid with 7 energy left, anything extra is just w...
Yeah I skipped vigilance and xspatk mpr for sync regen, evasive rush and fail fwd 1
bronze dragon
Why would you sync with her
stuck compass
I'm mostly just using her in LG
vivid yoke
I dont really see any need to go for other nodes besides the left side unless you specifically run her with the proper terrain/zone
I tried for mind games but i ended up getting healthy healing which, sure why not
bronze dragon
They wanted to keep the trend of on a roll 4
torpid sluice
I still dont understand how does struggle bug on a roll 4 works
Has anyone used her with it?
shadow wadi
It doesn't.
torpid sluice
So why is it in the grid?
Hasn't the game noticed the blunder?
Like, instead of that, it would have given double drop or satisfied snarl
Or another passive
shadow wadi
So why is it in the grid?
Soon to be fixed and moved to the passive skill spot 
echo crypt
it's a joke
shadow wadi
If you don't like it being in the grid, why not make it a passive instead?
torpid sluice
But what will it do as passive again
echo crypt
still nothing...
torpid sluice
Giga drain doesnt reduce any stat
shadow wadi
Same thing
echo crypt
point is, it was likely a mistake, and requires a fix
whether they do it soon or take ages it's to be seen
shadow wadi
me, helping? Heresy
dry glen
Where is sync grid for kali?
gentle sun
If it’s not in the pinned doc then you can screw around on pomatools and find a grid you like
stuck compass
Hasn't the game noticed the blunder?
Tbh they prolly just aren't doing anything with it, similar to lugia's grid node
echo crypt
huh? they did fix that
the problem was a +2 Aero tile costing 10 energy, the fix was lowering the cost to what it should be, rather than the solution people speculated of it being actually a passive or whatever
elfin crypt
Man, Lodge Dawn’s grid is barren
bronze dragon
She already has good passives in base kit
quaint sleet
Why does the suggested grid prioritise Harry and sync nodes for blue instead of smell ya mpr since he has brutal clarity and hurricane is his best move than sync
There's very few accuracy buffing supports
cloud crane
he goes well with the few gen pool ones such as Sabrina and SS Elesa i guess
quaint sleet
Hmm but i wouldn't waste Sabrinas potions for like 1 accuracy and SSElesa also gives only 2 (if you get the mpr she's good i guess)
Yeah with pinpoint entry i think he'll be viable even without mpr ss elesa (but i don't have her 
)
torpid sluice
Hmm but i wouldn't waste Sabrinas potions for like 1 accuracy and SSElesa also g...
Then use blue as tank, so that his evasion can be put into use, while if he gets hit, the potions will help him meanwhile buffing him
shadow wadi
torpid sluice
Whenever there is flying weak stage and opponent is not koga/venonoth, I use pidgeot as tank
shadow wadi
Evasion tanking with a striker, that's fun
torpid sluice
He works well surprisingly
sweet parcel
shadow wadi
Hmm but i wouldn't waste Sabrinas potions for like 1 accuracy and SSElesa also g...
They're not potions, healing is just a bonus effect
torpid sluice
Better than Sab, she gets hits wayy hard, especially in CS against bruno and others
shadow wadi
You can use Lillie if you want
They have the same defence/hp
And evasion tanks aren't reliable enough for that to matter
Plus you can easily run sentry entry 2 on Sabrina
quaint sleet
You can use Lillie if you want
Oh yeah she's also there (don't have her either)
Anyway my blue is still 2/5 so he'll still be running mprs and mgrs
bronze dragon
Also don't focus on maxing accuracy
2 TMs + double pinpoint entry 1 is a +4 total
If you can, sweet, but not game changing
In fact you win more by dropping 1 stage spdef than by maxing accuracy
kindred stag
Man, Lodge Dawn’s grid is barren
?????????????,
that's a good grid
innate vigi + sync regen + dodge component
shrewd sparrow
depends on what mode you're focusing
yeah
LA/LG, Dawn's grid is good
CS, Dawn's grid is over the place
I'd go something like this
for non LA/LG stages
bronze dragon
That's what Natwaf said above
For other units you'd be choosing what to pick because you're short on energy
With L Dawn you find yourself spending waste energy on defense and HP nodes
But her best traits are in base kit
echo crypt
you guys all deserve to be in jail
shrewd sparrow
bronze dragon
Lodge Dawn? Lawn! Pal Dawn? Pawn! NY Dawn? Yawn!
Don't give space for people who give goofy nicknames to run wild
kindred stag
CS, Dawn's grid is over the place
CS, lodge unit are bad anyway
gentle sun
Some are pretty great
zinc meadow
Like Lodge Dawn
shadow wadi
You might have better
echo crypt
Arceus forbid someone wants to actually use them for CS, you know, for fun
Spoilers: they can
stuck compass
Man, Lodge Dawn’s grid is barren
Her TM with barricade buddies and mpr are great tho
It's like a mini caitlin
elfin crypt
… dammit I’m out of Tech candies
echo crypt
they sure love spamming tech
placid heart
Idk what to do with 7 Extra energy
sinful smelt
Clearly you need to unlock a 4/5 node
placid heart
Ye
quaint sleet
Idk what to do with 7 Extra energy
Why not trip twice
snow fox
Kinda excessive with Trip Wire 2 procing twice
bronze dragon
But you debuff speed to buff your sync
A second Trip Wire 2 implies you're using a half buffed sync to buff your next sync
placid heart
It doesn’t seem like I have enough energy
Should I not take the bottom most sync tile?
Like this?
icy raven
It doesn’t seem like I have enough energy
Why didn't you go this way?
sly fulcrum
Why even need more than 2 rock zones
echo crypt
No nuke and no dps boost? Why even have a grid?
sly fulcrum
Why didn't you go this way?
There's no point to debuff speed for with that grid without cakewalk
Rock wish mpr is also not needed because it never drags on for so long
old niche
3/5 SSDiantha or SSKorrina?
sly fulcrum
Which type are u struggling with
atomic lodge
should i candy ssdiantha to 3/5?
bronze dragon
Yes
atomic lodge
okay ty
obsidian scaffold
Should i candy ssdianth to 5/5?
obsidian scaffold
2 yellow candy
vivid yoke
What is she at right now
obsidian scaffold
How many other techs you got that need candy
1 tech candy
obsidian scaffold
What is she at right now
3/5
vivid yoke
Id wait at least a month
3/5 is fine for her
You get rock zone mp refresh which is good enough
sly fulcrum
I would say high no
Rock zone extension 3 isn't needed
Unless u just doing 5/5 for fav
obsidian scaffold
Damn ss dianth is op
sly fulcrum
Extension isn't what made red op lol
For diantha's case she can melt a lot of contents with just 2 rock zones
obsidian scaffold
Extension isn't what made red op lol
Yeah, but still, you can move so many times with the B move
sly fulcrum
If u can clear with just 2 rocks zones why the need for mpr or even extension
In red's case it's overkill
Might as well go for more power to clear quicker
Rock zone extension or mpr is really only useful in long content like LG
primal wasp
Extension is useful for not missing Sync Nuke
bronze dragon
Then just don't use rock zone turn 1
primal wasp
It’s not needed but helps
For some reason I am finding myself losing Zone earlier than I want
bronze dragon
Because you use it too early + b move animations
Rock tomb, rock wish, b DS
That ensures zone for sync
Also queue rock wish as last member of the team that turn
primal wasp
Yeah I have been doing that
Maybe it’s just because of the animation/other passives activating?
bronze dragon
It will reach your sync if you do that
primal wasp
?
I was saying that Extension guarantees Zone for Sync not that I have problems with the Zone leaving before I can Sync
I was talking about it seeming to disappear sooner than other zones
Like with Pal Marnie
sly fulcrum
Zones are 40s iirc
placid heart
Also queue rock wish as last member of the team that turn
(Also applies to any field effect always try to queue it last)
bronze dragon
Extension is useful for not missing Sync Nuke
You said this
sly fulcrum
Timing it as the last is best
bronze dragon
The solution is to use rock zone turn 2 and not turn 1
sly fulcrum
Extension isn't needed for not missing it
bronze dragon
bronze dragon
If anything, extension is useful to be able to use rock wish turn 1
So you start spamming b diamond storm asap
placid heart
I really want to grab it but I cant make energy for it lel
bronze dragon
Every 5/5 grid problem
uneven wyvern
Every 5/5 grid problem
This
placid heart
If I tried to not focus her sync and try focusing more on helping Olivia/DPS is this grid okay?
I grabbed sync tile as it’s the cheapest way to propulsion
primal wasp
I am not that big of a fan of Propulsion but I get that it enables a lot of skipping the need to quadque
Normally Scholar’s Sync 5, Extension, and Rock Wish is what I would personally aim for.
But it makes sense if you have someone else on Nuke Duty
placid heart
Idt I’ll beeger need more than one zone use outside of gauntlet especially with how good Diantha is
placid heart
Ye
primal wasp
Chalem is the optimal partner for SS Diantha Teams?
bronze dragon
Among them yes
icy raven
If I tried to not focus her sync and try focusing more on helping Olivia/DPS is ...
This is the route I would go
placid heart
I feel like if you are taking zone extension it is redundant for Zone MPR and debuffing Spd does not exactly benefit Olivia and if you're not syncing with her theres no point in taking trip up and MGR on rock tomb as it is not a good move and if you want to focus on her DPS you want tough cookie
echo crypt
tbf we already told this person earlier how bad that grid is, but seems they didn't listen
gentle sun
Yeah, there are zero damage modifiers taken with that grid and Lithic Healing/Acceleration are more niche as passives go
If you really want Rock Zone Extension (which is a huge investment anyways at 5/5 and not something I recommend), then you probably want something like these for Sync nuke and regular move damage respectively
Oh, whoops
Hold on, lemme fix the regular move damage one
placid heart
I dont plan to sync with her and going to focus on Olivia synv for now despite mine being 3/5 ex
gentle sun
There we go. Accidentally left a tile active when I was redoing the grid for a hypothetical regular move damage one
Probably can optimize them more, but those 2 grids are far better if you really want Rock Zone Extension
For a 3/5 grid this one looks solid
Again, can probably be optimized further
gentle sun
Can just take that + some random other stuff that sounds helpful instead of her Trainer Move tiles then, easy enough swap
placid heart
woops i confused muse;fl
gentle sun
Oh, Zone Propulsion. Largely the same thing then, though IMO it’s not all that helpful unless you’re waiting to set Zone until after 1st Sync
Unless you’re running other forms of Sync accel
placid heart
Oh, Zone *Propulsion*. Largely the same thing then, though IMO it’s not all that...
It helps cause with CCalem TM prop and him having head start get to skip a turn with little draw back
sorry for ping I love discord!
gentle sun
Ah, yeah, there’s the other forms of Sync accel
Makes total sense to get the propulsion once you 4/5 her then
placid heart
Ye
She has been a lot of fun butr havent been able to use her as much as I want to cause of time
sinful smelt
Sharing my appreciation to SS Steven for having a nuke tile at 1/5. What a champ.
distant lark
any 2/5 grids for cerena?
sweet parcel
She doesnt have anything meaningful at 2/5 so grab the yellow tiles
distant lark
Aw
icy raven
any 2/5 grids for cerena?
Wich Cerina?
bronze dragon
Better don't worry about it 
icy raven
Better don't worry about it <:gp_riceBOYE:624793072122724373>
I see
distant lark
Wich Cerina?
champion serena
icy raven
champion serena
Is just the MGR at 2/5
bronze dragon
gentle sun
Huh, she gets more than I thought at 2/5, didn’t realize some of her Brutal Swing tiles were there
If you’re running a Dark-focused grid Brutal Swing Flabbergast/Foul Fighting are worth considering, but overall it’s better to wait until Champ Serena can be 3/5d before you candy her
chrome lava
Can someone post an optimal 3/5 grid for Looker?
gentle sun
Should be grid recommendations in the document in the pins
chrome lava
Where is that?
gentle sun
In the pins. The pin icon on top right of your screen
zinc meadow
Any of you recommend Rock Wish MP Refresh for SS Diantha at all?
bronze dragon
Only in LG
zinc meadow
Fair.
gentle sun
Yeah, pretty much just LG since you’d have zero issues clearing with just 2 MP in CS
zinc meadow
Even with the Extreme Battle, I didn’t use the second one for long.
zinc meadow
For a 3/5 grid this one looks solid
Btw is this a grid for her as a utility supporting a DPS?
gentle sun
That was me slapping together something that looked good for her doing regular move damage while someone else Sync nuked
I’m sure it can be optimized better
zinc meadow
That’s what I figured lol
I can always wait for recommendations too ^^
Plus I’m waiting for an extra candy before I decide whether to bring her to 3/5
gentle sun
Always a good decision
zinc meadow
Yeah it’s nice the second came from scout despite it being a pity, saves a candy.
bronze dragon
I'd heavily suggest 3/5
She's a toolbox with multipliers
Her 4/5 and 5/5 are also very good, but of course investment
I'm leaning towards syncing with her first always, so those 3/5 multipliers make a big difference
zinc meadow
I'd heavily suggest 3/5
Yeah I’m almost to another tech candy.
wraith inlet
may i get a SE9 grid for silver pls? ontype fire nuker
placid heart
This is what I usually run for my F2P runs (skyla Blaine silver)
wraith inlet
ty!
patent sierra
any good diantha 5/5 builds?
placid heart
any good diantha 5/5 builds?
Check the pins
haughty sierra
What grid does celebi use for soloing LAs?
shrewd sparrow
read the pinned document of solos in #1012311116778586182 , there's a link to the grid
solid comet
Who should get my 5* support candy between 2/5 SC Lillie, 2/5 Holiday Jasmine, and 1/5 Champion Calem?
bronze dragon
Either SC Lillie or Ch Calem, the latter only if you will 3/5 eventually
solid comet
I would like to eventually 3/5 all three
bronze dragon
Then up to you
warm magnet
is cresselia fine at 1/5 or need 2-3/5?
bronze dragon
Needs 3/5
warm magnet
i see, under which build is the best for her
bronze dragon
warm magnet
i noticed couple of them, but in general which one is the best? is it the one with -countdown
bronze dragon
shadow wadi
yes-yes, very interesting, but which is the best?
sly fulcrum
i noticed couple of them, but in general which one is the best? is it the one wi...
There's actually no 'in general which is the best' grid, it's a matter of who are you using it with and their synergy between one another
warm magnet
There's actually no 'in general which is the best' grid, it's a matter of who ar...
yeah im aware about that. Most units I have no problem in deciding which grids to use but cresselia's kits is a little confusing but no worries I got it all sorted out after watched some of her 3/5 showcases from youtube. 
sly fulcrum
Her main gimmick is mostly sync accel, slapped with hs1 skips an entire cycle with 2 TM in
Also can pick ramp up for spatk top up if needed
Someone like SS wally will appreciate both her spatk top up and sync accel for example
warm magnet
👍🏼 ty for the input
zinc meadow
Can this be pinned actually??
keen bridge
:(^
zinc meadow
Or maybe…should I do a version that also states it takes no extra sync orbs or something?
clever thorn
What’s the best grid for maylene 
echo crypt
do you mean what would be a good set of passives or what? because she is still gridless
clever thorn
Sorry, that was a bad joke, playing off of the whole “what’s the best grid for x unit” 
placid heart
Are you from the future 
clever thorn
Cuz this
echo crypt
let's ban Winston
gotcha, fair lol
but, since people hate to read these days, it'll continue happening
placid heart
Plz gib maylene team sharp entry and berserk bunch on TM
clever thorn
Precision Pals would also be nice, since she was originally (probably) supposed to pair with low accuracy units for Sure Hit
Aaron who?
echo crypt
they seem to be allergic to giving other pairs Master Healer on draining moves these days, hopefully they do for Drain Punch this time
placid heart
bronze dragon
Catalytic cure 2 
elfin crypt
New tiles for Diantha only start at 2/5 right?
elfin crypt
Welp doesn’t matter to my 1/5 haha
kindred stag
What’s the best grid for maylene <:HapuStare:658771706680311835>
What's the best grid for Striker Blastoise 
icy raven
What's the best grid for Striker Blastoise <:PoryWoke:748413447015759884>
He is a tank
gentle sun
They’re aware, they’re memeing
sweet parcel
actually there is a meme striker build for tank Blastoise
sinful smelt
Striker Blastoise is a striker, the meme is that eggs don’t have grids
Striker SSB is easy he has a four bar
gentle sun
Ah, eggmon does make more sense with the context, yeah
stuck idol
this is my first time trying to make a grid for any unit pls be kind thousand waves zerena, any thoughts/changes? i just wanna see her ground dps
round bridge
^ her ground and dragon builds are basically the same
You gain far more damage by investing in sync, compared to getting the Thousand Waves base power tiles
stuck idol
thanks guys
quaint sleet
Does bp soph not need standfast 3 from grid?
sweet parcel
he doesnt need it
shadow wadi
No, it's 90% reduction
quaint sleet
Oh
shadow wadi
You can pick sf3 if you want 93% reduction
quaint sleet
Wait what
I thought sf3 was 30% or 40%
shadow wadi
It is 30%, correct
quaint sleet
Then won't it be 90% + 30%
Or 30% reduction to whatever is left after removing 90%?
shadow wadi
It's left at 7%
placid heart
Then won't it be 90% + 30%
It’s multiplicative not additive
bronze dragon
latent warren
wasnt there a google doc with all the sync grids?
placid heart
If you’re running ash and red on the same same team why would you take nuke tiles for SSTRed
And why get nuke multipliers without Bp up for nuke
wispy dagger
So I should unselect all nuke tiles?
placid heart
If you plan to sync with ash I would it seems very redundant
placid heart
I would check the pins cause if you’re not really using him for nuke idk what you do with his grid lel
wispy dagger
Alr
icy raven
Is this the way 2 go for Melony and Lapras?
Combined with troublemaker
placid heart
with accuracy +10 and troublemaker it is 100% iirc and who do you want to use her for that you are taking precision palls it is not exactly a good grid
I would likely just run this which might be what is in the pins
gentle sun
Yeah, I’d definitely recommend All Ramped Up over Precision Pals at minimum
placid heart
Hmm her tm does buff crit already I did not know
stuck idol
somebody pls help me to select blastoise 2/5 tanky sync grid, any one have pls share
sweet belfry
There's a doc pinned or you can use the bot, it can list out a sync pair and their example grid
icy raven
somebody pls help me to select blastoise 2/5 tanky sync grid, any one have pls s...
Here
bronze dragon
Here
You always seem to focus on just MPR and MGR
You have 24 energy left and very valuable nodes like adrenaline 1, which balances quad queue because of Blue's reactive passive, pep rally 1, quick cure, natural remedy
Bad help sometimes becomes spreading misinformation 
icy raven
Please do not send shitty grids to people asking for help, read the recommends.
He ask for 2/5 and that's what I would have picked
zinc meadow
That does not mean you should show that to someone.
Read the damn recommends.
We have them for a reason.
You legit did not pick what makes SS Blue good at 2/5
And with the remaining energy, if you’re intending to stick to 2/5, I’d even do Adrenaline 1
merry onyx
tbh y'all are being a little too hard he made a bad grid, oh well, it can be fixed
zinc meadow
tbh y'all are being a little too hard <:RileyHaha:612408184669470730> he made a ...
Trust me, this is not the first time
gentle sun
It’s moreso recommending a bad grid to someone who doesn’t know any better
merry onyx
oh 💀 nvm then
bronze dragon
He's done this several times, he has been told and he doesn't listen
zinc meadow
All good bro
merry onyx
He's done this several times, he has been told and he doesn't listen
ohhh
i take back my stance then 💀
zinc meadow
Don’t feel bad, its all good.
merry onyx
nah i dont feel bad 
zinc meadow
Trust me, I used to have shitty grids, but that was before coming here
Now I strictly follow recommends, but I’ll sometimes experiment.
~~Except I suck at using PoMa tools for the multipliers 
~~
gentle sun
These days I’ve got a somewhat decent sense for grid basics
I can usually figure out a grid that’s good-but-can-be-optimized fairly quickly
Exact routes are what get me
zinc meadow
gentle sun
The broader point being experience is helpful
zinc meadow
Sync grids are not my strong suit tbh, I should study up and do the thing Sages sent me
echo crypt
Exact routes are what get me
figuring out cheaper paths is tricky yeah, it's nice when you can change them and end up able to pick an extra tile here and there
bronze dragon
And it's also frustrating when you realize you're 1 energy short to pick all the good stuff you want because DeNa designed it that way
gentle sun
SO MUCH THAT
zinc meadow
Y E S
gentle sun
@fading gulch this could be an option. If you want Head Start you can swap the 2nd Potion MP Refresh tile and Quick Cure for Head Start and some stat tiles:
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/pairs/1901/38100?s=5&l=140&r=5&p=0&a=0&g=AAECAwQFBggLDRATFBcYGhwfIg
Probably some sort of optimization that can be done there, but that’s the basic gist
placid heart
If it’s for CS in my experience you don’t really need more than 2 potions
fading gulch
honestly with how my team works i dont even need to use potions that much
cuz i can just kill before they do much
and may is naturally kinda bulky
gentle sun
Fair enough
Can just undo the whole Potion arm and allocate the energy as you see fit, then
If you want I can try and come up with 1 or 2 options
placid heart
Sides get cleared out so fast with him man what a great support I wish lister purge was that good main series 🐴
echo crypt
Well, battling in main series is a whole different beast
fading gulch
luster purge hits surprisingly hard for a support mon yeah
placid heart
Well, battling in main series is a whole different beast
I know pain
fading gulch
oh
my
god
i gridded adrenaline for him already
i just forgot
its not possible to get adrenaline HS and sharp entry is it
bronze dragon
It is
gentle sun
Nope. I think you have to choose between Impervious or Team Sharp Entry as well if you want to keep Adrenaline
fading gulch
yeah ew
sharp entry is the whole reason why hes so great at 3/5
so ill just go sync free for all and sharp entry head start
gentle sun
Wow
placid heart
Oh I run a way more convuluted version of that
gentle sun
Nice
fading gulch
now i need to find a stage to pulverize with water
gentle sun
I was wrong about energy cost conflict, dang
placid heart
Oh I forgot I ran that cause of psychic terrain/bianca
bronze dragon
Impervious isn't doing much in CS
fading gulch
well i wanted sync free for all cuz lol lets just make gauge even more nonexistent
anyway i think i just speedran entei in like a minute with my team so that was an experience
placid heart
Struggling with gauge with ssbrendan is an extreme rarity and why overkill gauge
fading gulch
Struggling with gauge with ssbrendan is an extreme rarity and why overkill gauge
because origin pulse is 4 gauge and muddy water is 3 gauge
im going for hoenn rain go brrrrrr strat
placid heart
After a support Ex sync wouldn’t those two just have the stage dead alrwady
At least they do from my experience
fading gulch
At least they do from my experience
yeah but gauge economy
echo crypt
Gauge is a non issue when you finish the stage fast, don't be silly
I'd understand if the idea is a long battle like gauntlet
bronze dragon
Archie and May carry gauge with Accel passives
placid heart
And if you’re really low on gauge may always has her MGB on TM
fading gulch
well my goal of tenderizing entei is complete
sonic scroll
Wally 5/5 setup?
echo crypt
Wally doesn't have 5/5 grid tiles
in any case, for the new tiles he got, check the pins, builds for him are up to date
uneven wyvern
I am waiting…
icy raven
I cannot believe they did rapidash dirty and not give him sunny day refresh 😮💨
bronze dragon
You always seem to focus on just MPR and MGR
sly fulcrum
I cannot believe they did rapidash dirty and not give him sunny day refresh 😮�...
The same happened for winona u know
Winona got shower sync and blaine got solar sync
bronze dragon
At least no mpr reduces the chances of him recommending wacky grids
sly fulcrum
The only special one is acerola but it was way back when sand support was so terrible
By terrible it was really terrible u had to run acerola kukui and cynthia without her grid expansion/boost
bronze dragon
Kukui?
echo crypt
Tbf even SST Red has no terrain MPR, granted that's not a good comparison
sly fulcrum
Yeah kukui
sly fulcrum
This was like way back when BV got introduced not long ago
fading gulch
leer spam maybe
sly fulcrum
The go to sand team
bronze dragon
Breh battle villa who cares
sly fulcrum
bronze dragon
Also not the best idea to run a sandstorm team in BV
sly fulcrum
Well way back we had so limited choices and people even struggled to floor 30
Now it's just whatever
bronze dragon
That's over 3 years ago
sly fulcrum
echo crypt
When PotionChu was meta 
sly fulcrum
When normal guard was viable to block some giga impact from bewear
bronze dragon
One month after release people were already doing 25 stages day 1
Because it was 25 stages by then, not 30
zinc meadow
Tbf even SST Red has no terrain MPR, granted that's not a good comparison <:Soph...
Honestly, Max Conductivity is better.
Max Move instead of sync
echo crypt
Yeah, and the guy ends stages so quickly you likely never touch ET even once
zinc meadow
Why tank when I get sync in literally two moves with my team?
sterile hinge
Did the intro message with the links get deleted?
unique wedge
it's in the pins
zinc meadow
lone sun
This grid sucks lol
Literally how are you supposed to set up cakewalk other than low sweep
No room for Glojo with SSA + a buffer
placid heart
If you grab ferocious moves instead of critical eye you can run ssmay / Glojo
And then youbtank with Wally for prohaste
:^)
icy raven
Literally how are you supposed to set up cakewalk other than low sweep
You have this Team
sly fulcrum
No fighting zone tho
sweet parcel
You can bring SSA Cynthia for zone, and SS May for setting up Cakewalk and debuff Def
icy raven
No fighting zone tho
From what I can see no room to fit it if your trying to use both sync nuke tyles. And unfortunately for me I don't have fighting zone.
bronze dragon
You can simply swap F Caitlin with SSA Cynthia
zinc meadow
From what I can see no room to fit it if your trying to use both sync nuke tyles...
Do you have SSA Cynthia?
soft night
If you're trying to setup Cakewalk Wally in fighting zone.
You need a full turn of sync acceleration. Dojo Gloria with Tripping Strike 9 is the best for this. Since she has 2 uses of her TM.
ssMay helps with 1st sync thanks to HS2, but you won't be setting up much of a cakewalk due to Wally needing to buff and SSA cynthia having no offensive buffs. You'd need to rely on TM MPR proccing for post-sync.
stark berry
If you are playing on type, just use se up instead of fighting zone
Fighting zone is really inconvenient for sync nukers
It you are off typing then fighting zone is the only boost
However even partial sync acceleration can be enough for keeping fighting zone for the sync
soft night
we had ♾️ field effects this week anyway, but I made use of it even though I didn't need it:
#1011736960701829191 message
lone sun
If you're trying to setup Cakewalk Wally in fighting zone.
You need a full turn ...
But then you don’t get ramming speed… god Wally is a mess
icy raven
Do you have SSA Cynthia?
If your talking about fighting zone, the nope
zinc meadow
I’m mainly asking in general, wasn’t sure if you knew she even possessed Fighting Zone.
Cause the in-game filter doesn’t filter passive effects
stark berry
But then you don’t get ramming speed… god Wally is a mess
I'll just ignore his mega and sync with aura Cynthia
icy raven
I'll just ignore his mega and sync with aura Cynthia
That seems what poce is doing
stone chasm
What do yall thinks better for Zinnia's Rayquaza ??
Lucky Skill Dauntless for Draco Meteors
Or
Lucky Skill CS2 and Clearheaded(GRID) for Outrage
stone chasm
what, Weathered Warrior 3 is better than CS2 in a non Dauntless build?
stone chasm
Huummm, nice to know
shadow wadi
Damage passives are usually X *10%
stone chasm
I think I'll take advantage of cookie farm to change it, lol
shadow wadi
It's deluxe exclusive, might take a while
short geode
is there any log showing latest updated grids? including units just getting a grid and the ones getting upgraded
unique wedge
yes
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damn that message is old but i got notification just now
idle gazelle
Any suggestions? As you can see the grid I would prefer to use costs 2 energy too much
idle gazelle
Right will remove revenge boost
shadow wadi
You already have +6 speed from his sync, and freevenge
idle gazelle
Fair point
My gut was saying “remove revenge boost”
But my brain was telling me “using zero gauge for your next move is different from gaining 1 gauge from being hit”
gentle sun
Yo, Team Sharp Entry on Sycamore is nuts, even if it’s only 1
elfin crypt
Half chance is better than the base 20% after all
shadow wadi
It's not 20% at 0 crit buffs, around 5-10%.
idle gazelle
My final decision
fading gulch
My final decision
just take the defense node instead of freevenge
and if you could go for impervious
elfin crypt
It's not 20% at 0 crit buffs, around 5-10%.
Really? Huh
idle gazelle
just take the defense node instead of freevenge
That’s your choice
elfin crypt
Definitely explains why I thought it was lower than 20 LMAO
fading gulch
good to know
gentle sun
Dang, P. Elesa actually has a pretty great 2/5 grid
idle gazelle
Which gives more sync damage boost?
Brawn sync 5 (with max attack) or Sync Move: power +25
shadow wadi
Bs5 is a 50% multiplier
idle gazelle
Cool, thanks
My current grid has power +25, just to use up the last 5 energy I had on my current build, and it costs the same as Brawn Sync so good to know that I can swap
merry onyx
So how good is roark looking now? How much does his 3 standfast nodes lower his recoil? Would he need all 3?
elfin crypt
Does Elesa nuke harder now?
gentle sun
Yes, her Sync nuke is better now
elfin crypt
Noice
gentle sun
Brawn Sync 5 + Inertia is +150% Sync damage vs. just Inertia being +100%
elfin crypt
She’s always carried me through electric weak content
gentle sun
Yeah, I'm excited for PMD this month
Speaking of an updated Elesa grid, here's one that should work well for both Wild Charge and Sync nuke
This assumes you have an Attack/crit buffer though. You can make some alterations to grab Critical Eye if you don't have a crit buff source
trail dawn
is this good?
gentle sun
I was just contemplating that myself. I kinda feel like Shauntal should focus on either Sync nuke or Shadow Ball damage considering her grid
Here's a Shadow Ball-focus grid that assumes you're teaming her up with SSA Cynthia
trail dawn
oof i think endurance paired with SSB might be better? i think safety net's bit more advantageous
gentle sun
You can easily swap Endurance for Shadow Ball OaR
gentle sun
Yeah, that's part of why I think her Shadow Ball focus grid is better than Sync nuke
fading gulch
Here's a Shadow Ball-focus grid that assumes you're teaming her up with SSA Cynt...
hot to the touch referencing flame body? pog?
gentle sun
do you have any suggestion on Roarks grid?
Here's a wacky "All Standfasts + Haymaker" grid, but it's probably not the best one out there and I think it might be better to focus on either Head Smash or Sync nuke, idk
gentle sun
hot to the touch referencing flame body? pog?
Yeah, but you don't want Shauntal to get hit, so it's kinda just there
fading gulch
double down is super effective sync damage up right
gentle sun
Yep
fading gulch
you think he could outdamage olivia
hay maker and double down 5 is equal to inertia and sand blaster 5
gentle sun
With Sync nuke? Would have to check the Attack stats on both of them, but the modifiers equal the same
Olivia still has the advantage due to EX though
dry glen
What of this for him
trail dawn
Here's a wacky "All Standfasts + Haymaker" grid, but it's probably not the best ...
idk if standfast 15 saves him?
fading gulch
it does
idk how standfast works beyond 9 but its at least letting him use head smash more than once
shadow wadi
idk if standfast 15 saves him?
Stadfast isn't additive, it's multiplicative
fading gulch
so how much recoil would it be then
shadow wadi
Standfast 7 removes 70% of recoil, and so on
bronze dragon
Correct
Imo standfast 3 is not worth it having picked standfast 7 and 5 as that's already 85% recoil removal
gentle sun
Seems ok, though I’m reasonably sure that +20 Speed tile is no energy cost
sweet parcel
Idk why they give him so many gauge related tiles
He is already one of the best gauge battery lol
gentle sun
They had to take some measures to ensure he wouldn’t break the game
shadow wadi
Buffing anything else would make him even more broken