#Battle Rally

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simple frost
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pretty much. good luck

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if nothing else another crit power, but only cuz you've got support/field

leaden wraith
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they said they beat her

fluid mountain
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All areas done on VH
A mid 2-cycle same bonuses seed, 4 BCs, a GOD SHOP, and a solid defeat on Evelyn UB, even though I missed the NC Leaf sync nuke's crit twice.

Items used:

  • 1 Johto Upgrade (starting)
  • 1 Crit PU (50, from A4)
  • 1 Kanto Upgrade (100, from A6)
  • 1 Champion Upgrade (100, from A7)

Battles per area:
1: Blaine BC (from Larry and Kabu event)
2: Shauntal Ice-W CS
3: Hala Fairy-W CS
4: Karen Fighting-W CS
5: N BC (From Volo and Jacq event)
6: Flint Water-W CS
7: Black Belt BC (from SS Wally event)
8: Aaron Ground-W CS
9: Grimsley (Alola) BC (from Poké War Games SC event)
10: Evelyn UB

mental raft
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Evelyn is the easiest one in new UBs I guess?

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But

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Why are you tanking with NC Blue when you have his better version AS Steven by his side?

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And 8 sync buffs

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The battle was not easy

muted sparrow
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Blue: almost die
Leaf: only has 50% left
Steven: Full Hp

simple frost
fluid mountain
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Yeah, probably because I'm trying to take adventage on Kanto Upgrade, but yeah SeleneLul

mental raft
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Now I am thinking of pulling both NC Blue and NC Leaf! HilbertHmm

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NC Leaf has high utility against UBs as well

fluid mountain
fluid mountain
bronze escarp
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Thank you so much!

molten ice
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Starting bonus was bug in team, found a Rival bonus and bought it immediately, then I found Champion bonus and bought it twice.
VH was Lucy and no lucky area but still 10k+ DahliaCheer

serene spoke
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Clutch rally

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Decent rally?

mental raft
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Did you Apple Cupped it?

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The points spent are quite high!

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If this is your first rally, it's nice! ElesaJustRight

The score depends on the seed, themes and number of ExR

serene spoke
serene spoke
serene spoke
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Then 2 sp atk up power up

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2 super effective up power up

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2 crit up power up

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Around that basically

mental raft
mental raft
serene spoke
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and for most of them i got the bonus

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aside from the last one and the ones in which i didnt have a fire unit of the matching role

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(and sprint and field ofc)

mental raft
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As your roster expands and you invest in it, try to narrow down your spent point below 350 little by little every week!

serene spoke
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hmmmm

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i saw someones post about how they buy this stuff to make the rally less hectic

mental raft
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Because initially you don't have many EXRs so saving points is best!

serene spoke
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cuz they are able to do very hard instead

serene spoke
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which i did for the most part other than the ones where i didnt have on type dps, to maximise as many points as i could

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i got like 2x the points i got in my 1st and 2nd rally

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so pretty happy with that

mental raft
serene spoke
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i will try then

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ok btw

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so if i buy a 100% boost to stats

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then a 100% boost to super effective hits

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its essentially a 4x dmg buff right?

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but then if i get more stat boosts its additive

mental raft
serene spoke
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and same with super effective its

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hits*

serene spoke
mental raft
serene spoke
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but if one boosts stats and other boosts dmg by 100% each

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then technically it should be x4 over base right?

mental raft
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Oh right yeah!

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Its 4x

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Because it is double of double

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So it's multiplicative

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But the same theme boost or power up is additive

serene spoke
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alr

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so what about critical hit up and super effective up

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since both of them boost dmg

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so it would be additive?

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i just calculated i was essentially dealing 48x the normal dmg holy

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(if crit and super effective)

mental raft
serene spoke
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i got 7 of them

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cuz 400 from the theme boost

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and 350 for the others

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350/50 = 7

serene spoke
mental raft
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Umm wait I might be wrong!

serene spoke
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so it would be 6 * (3+3+1)

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6*8 = 48

mental raft
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I think you should ask either Rei hunter or Gakon tomorrow because I am not sure!

And I think they must be knowing it!

serene spoke
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alr anyways

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thanks

simple frost
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for power upgrades, just stick to 1 or 2

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any more is kinda removing the chance for a better Theme Boost (for bulk)

sweet mango
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4 mc, started with 1 fire, 1 rebuff power.

zealous jay
simple frost
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gradual healing's kinda bad

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9x Theme Boosts is very very expensive.

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5x's good enough for most battles.

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3x is pristine.

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the MG+ is also bad, D;

zealous jay
zealous jay
simple frost
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rip i guess.

zealous jay
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I was just showing that I got Instant Fissure on my end.

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I don’t really care about getting a high amount of points from Rally.

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Since I don’t have the units to do it.

rancid zodiac
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No lucky stage VolknerDed

simple frost
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10k reaching to 11k, pretty solid tbh.

rancid zodiac
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Thanks, quite lucky seed tho

simple frost
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i pray for Palmer for this week ❤️

rancid zodiac
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I see Nita = instant switch to hard difficulty, I had her 2 times in a row GretaCringe

simple frost
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funny enough, i haven't used apple cup yet or switched to hard at all.

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but eventually... apple cup usage soon

rancid zodiac
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I want practice mode, points are too precious

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I can buy more feathers and get dead rolls SophoKEK

fiery stirrup
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simple frost
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and Speed?

fiery stirrup
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simple frost
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cuz inertia and tough sync is bad.

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double kill if they have DEF buffs.

fiery stirrup
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simple frost
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they're kinda aggressive with their buffs so that's going to be difficult.

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Dashing Team 9 is going to be tough.

fiery stirrup
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simple frost
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good luck then

leaden wraith
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SC Irida has sure flinch twice, so be sure to time it well

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Also master passives don't reduce damage from sync move and max move

fiery stirrup
dull spire
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Else, you can consider Haze user.

fiery stirrup
leaden wraith
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If survivability is the problem, it's best to bring a support with Strike/Tech EXR to absorb hits

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For bullshit areas like this, it's encouraged to not go insane and avoid burnout WEEZing

fiery stirrup
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leaden wraith
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The stage is rough without speed and defense debuffs

fiery stirrup
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leaden wraith
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ICYMI, using 4 matching roles on VH only gives you 100 more pts than using all 6 matching roles on H

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So sometimes it's not worth going insane on VH

fiery stirrup
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mental raft
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Iirc the center sync pair overrides others wtz

leaden wraith
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No, the 3rd pair in tactics will have their entry WTZ stay on the field

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It has nothing to do with being placed on the center or on the side

fiery stirrup
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normal python
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Now how the hell do I handle the AS units' BC with in the town of sprintfield? HilbertHmm

leaden wraith
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You can keep Weavile, and sets Fairy Zone later

leaden wraith
normal python
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A3

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Sprint/Field bonus

normal python
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5th anni AS units BC

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With Johto bonus

leaden wraith
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How about your theme boosts and units

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Taking a screenshot of available pairs will help

mental raft
leaden wraith
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Smh

serene spoke
normal python
serene spoke
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Where is this

simple frost
leaden wraith
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Absol's pastebin

tight escarp
leaden wraith
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Both pastebin are pinned here

mental raft
serene spoke
serene spoke
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Also what is the difference in the UB/BC and the one that shows up in the rally

leaden wraith
# serene spoke Wdym

Buying unnecessary theme boosts will reduce the chance of other themes spawn in the shop after each round, is what they meant. It's poorly worded so you got a confusion

leaden wraith
serene spoke
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Ah ok thanks

leaden wraith
serene spoke
serene spoke
leaden wraith
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For example Ultimate Battles on A10 VH have their stats increased

serene spoke
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What about E and H?

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Also do some battles like Noland only come on easy

leaden wraith
serene spoke
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Cuz I have not seen it anywhere else

simple frost
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iirc easy/normal is at 10% of their usual stats. hard is around 50% of their stats reduced.

leaden wraith
mental raft
leaden wraith
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Some theme skills are really bad that stacking them doesn't help

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How valuable a theme boost is depends on your roster

serene spoke
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Well fire is pretty good

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Cuz I believe I have the most amount of fire units

leaden wraith
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It was an example

serene spoke
leaden wraith
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And then, you might lack a Fire Field or Sprint for Field/Sprint round

serene spoke
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I lack field and sprint in general

leaden wraith
serene spoke
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Only two sprint units in all and 0 field

leaden wraith
serene spoke
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Hmm

serene spoke
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Or my definition of struggling is wrong

leaden wraith
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Having good boosts doesn't mean you are guaranteed to power through stages without trouble

serene spoke
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Is doing only 20% Dmg to side mons struggling or not?

leaden wraith
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You still have to bring gimmick checks to the stages, if there are any

serene spoke
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Cuz I don't have a great roster, and most of my units are uninvested

leaden wraith
serene spoke
leaden wraith
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And only buy boosts when you need them, don't just blindlessly purchase everything

serene spoke
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Or crit up and super effective up

simple frost
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crit power up is ideal.

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SE Up not so much.

serene spoke
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They are 50 each so they are good value as well right?

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And sp atk power up?

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Isn't that just a free 100% Dmg boost

simple frost
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depends on how often you can sp.atk your team.

serene spoke
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Cuz all units have a sp atk stat

leaden wraith
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Crit, atk and spatk up are good boosts in general. Super effective one is not really good since you don't always do ontype in BR

heavy fjord
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The easier the requirement is to fulfill, the better they are

serene spoke
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Alr

leaden wraith
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Getting 1 - 2 of them is enough

heavy fjord
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Something like SE Up is harder to use than Atk Up, so its worse as a result

serene spoke
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But then if I buy only like the crit up, isn't my team just gonna not have survivability and just die

leaden wraith
serene spoke
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Hm

leaden wraith
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Those power ups will ofc make things easier, but they don't make your playthrough braindead

serene spoke
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Like so many of the stages have aoe moves and my main Dmg dealer was getting almost one shot even when my defense was 5x

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So without them it feels like I will instantly just loose

leaden wraith
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That usually means you don't shut down the gimmicks that powerup opponents' attacks

serene spoke
leaden wraith
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Or you don't bring the units whose themes match with the boosts

normal python
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Who's BC is poison-weak Victor for again?

serene spoke
leaden wraith
leaden wraith
serene spoke
# leaden wraith Ideally

Cuz I remember the previous rallies i did before I didn't buy much and couldn't even do Hard for the most part

leaden wraith
# serene spoke I did

Just be mindful that their sync move types must match with the theme boosts. Like using Oak/Mew doesn't activate Fire boost for example

serene spoke
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Alr

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Gloria will not activate fighting / flying either right

heavy fjord
leaden wraith
serene spoke
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Cuz no theme for that?

leaden wraith
leaden wraith
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If you want to, we helpers here will gladly guide you step by step when you do the next runs, until you collect enough experience

serene spoke
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Thanks!

normal python
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Well fuck, SS Morty's BC came up just when I used him in a previous support/field area

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Actually, my only silver lining is that I have SS Kris

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Well, I also have DC Tierno

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So funny, I got MC upgrade at A10 and Noland is my VH stage

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And I have Stat Down: Power Up upgrade and my bonus is field/tech, and my field/tech units need paralyze in order to debuff, and Noland is immune to paralyze

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And my hard is Masked Royal

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Apparently, NC Cheren made this too easy albeit I got MC upgrade

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9,570 points isn't bad

wary cove
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got distracted by vacation

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can i finish br in 20 mins if i marathon easy

ebon sorrel
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Almost missed rally this week

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But take a look at this shop, i never had one as good as tgis

wary cove
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😔 got through 9

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no 300g for me ;-;

ebon sorrel
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Oh that sucks

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I'm not used to 3 time speed, but just to make sure i could guarantee these 300 i played all stages on it

normal python
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Sinnoh upgrade HilbertHmm

fossil bramble
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LMAO.

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Sis is cooked

mental raft
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Hehe!
I will assume I didn't got BFF! TabithaHehe

mental raft
fossil bramble
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SS Morty + Mix Red PoryWoke

mental raft
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Or Mix Blue?

fossil bramble
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Well Mix Blue can be the 3rd unit

mental raft
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Argenta will be fried! TabithaHehe

fossil bramble
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Wait no. Status Change is still needed

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SS Ethan PoryWoke

fossil bramble
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Actually. I think I already got this exact A10

mental raft
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I hope Palmer!

fossil bramble
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I may have done a full Striker/Field already

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Red, Blue, Ethan

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I may try that again

next fern
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fairy and gym leader eh? seems pretty doable

ebon sorrel
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I only really buy from the shop if the boosts are either a region, main character or crit

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On rare instances sync

twilit chasm
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Heat wave is ass EusineWhy

simple frost
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thorton?

twilit chasm
twilit chasm
fossil bramble
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I realized I have triple Sprint/Striker. Glad one is a Lucky Stage because I only have 4 SophoKEK

urban ledge
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Guess I’m ZOOMING all the time

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I don’t nearly have enough units to score high this time lol

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On the plus side both Kalos and Alola cover a lot

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Double sprintfield is eww tho

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Plus, sync power up yay

mental raft
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Fully boosted too! LucianScheme

fossil bramble
mental raft
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This is the second Kukui I got!
Does this mean MR A10? CyrusSweat

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I will know soon enough

fossil bramble
mental raft
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TabithaHehe

Champion vs Champions!

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What are the gimmicks with Giovanni?

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Just stat debuffs and wtz?

leaden wraith
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Field effects like Darach and requires you to haze buffs

mental raft
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Okay!

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Can Rei, AS Cynthia and NC Rosa do it?

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Wait no

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She is out of sandstorm

leaden wraith
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and there is no hazer there

normal python
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If you ignore his buffs, you're pretty much fucked

mental raft
normal python
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Giovanni's gimmicks are attuned for Akari and SC Zinnia

mental raft
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Don't have any of them

rancid zodiac
mental raft
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Speed might be an issue but I will still try it!

fossil bramble
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Realistically if you can survive after first sync, you can technically brute force the status buff

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But that's more on investment check and bonus tho

mental raft
fossil bramble
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You can certainly try if Rei can bruteforce it

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Needs a WTZ setter tho

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Oh btw

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He debuffs accuracy

mental raft
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Yeah sadly

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I have to try Poppy

fossil bramble
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I think that may be the reason I haven't done my clear yet

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There are times Akari is hit with crucial misses

normal python
fossil bramble
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I'll try with Acuity Akari later, assuming I don't get lazy

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I don't have Zinnia lol

simple frost
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hrm dark.

fossil bramble
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Imagine if you get Gio UB with all the talk about him

simple frost
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whoa. that's actually a nice combo.

fossil bramble
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Question

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If you buy a consumable is it an immediate use

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The only consumable I ever remember buying is appleCup

dull spire
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Yes

simple frost
fossil bramble
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Drat. I was hoping you can save those

simple frost
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Items in the H, I are one time items typically.

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A B C D are power ups/theme boosts

dull spire
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Applicable only for next battle or used up immediately (scopes/meals on bottom right).

simple frost
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E F are typically permanent upgrades from team wild vigilance, gradual healing,

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G can be those above, but can also contain Zones, Terrains, and Weather conditions.

fossil bramble
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Oh wait scope is technically consumable. Ye I buy those

dull spire
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I still rmb getting item E F G on my early days of Rally.
Not anymore!

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Unless I get above 9750 points/week.

fossil bramble
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I still remember doing x10 boost WEEZing

dull spire
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Same, I did it for 2-3 weeks.

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Before the harsh realization hits me.

fossil bramble
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Now it's majorly scope

dull spire
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I still need to get 400-500 points increase.
Hovering in 9-9.3k currently without lucky stage.

rancid zodiac
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MLG no scope in BR PoryWoke Then a nasty surprise in area 10 TabithaHehe

simple frost
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oh. oh no. Please be Sprint/Tech on A02 ....

fossil bramble
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Life is full of surprises. I don't need anymore from A10 SycamorePanic

dull spire
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Tadah, Noland VH H Easy

fossil bramble
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Although I'll probably do it once

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Inb4 it's Nemona

simple frost
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not .... bad

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i think i'll clear CS first i guess

muted sparrow
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Maybe i need May’s Tm mpr

mental raft
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I did it!

I beat Giovanni! KukuiWOO

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Lillie sync KOed him from 40%

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I bought 2 Champion Upgrades and 2 Crip PUs

simple frost
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Cheren stage 😦

fossil bramble
mental raft
simple frost
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i can use both bianca and nc blue up in A10

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so that leaves me with

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Emma and SS Serena gamin? well then

mental raft
simple frost
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aight streaming

muted sparrow
mental raft
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Great!

fossil bramble
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Bye Raihan

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Two of the three Tech/Support has HE8 passive, so I can't use Oleana here yet lol

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A1 is Victor, A4 is Geeta

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Also this is super worth right

mental raft
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Yes

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You always decrease opponents stats so it's great

fossil bramble
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A4 is the HE8 fight, and the last I can get away with no Fire unit

mental raft
fossil bramble
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Oh whoops I already bought it WEEZing

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I assumed the stat down is atk only, but it's fine

mental raft
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A3 utmost

fossil bramble
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Geeta ended up boosting Oleana WEEZing

fossil bramble
mental raft
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And that's a BC too!

fossil bramble
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I was planning to use Oleana on A1 since it's BC for Klara, and HE8 too, but had to check A4

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I know A4 is my limit but

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Okay Red is just OP. Or the boost is making up for it. Or both

fossil bramble
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A10 shop gave me perma Sunny Day. I won't buy it but the game really wants me to destroy Argenta MalvaReckless

simple frost
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gotta save geeta and mix red... but its grass weak HRM

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AHHH might as well

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@mental raft i'm back ;o

mental raft
simple frost
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Argenta was my A10

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Strike/Sup

mental raft
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You will share the sheet?

simple frost
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4x EVAPow and 3x Dark Boost

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ah wait a bti

mental raft
simple frost
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only Tierno and Anni May died

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that eva+4 and eva pow in the beginning saved me from the steven bc ;<

mental raft
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You have written Trevor instead of Tierno

simple frost
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oh right

urban ledge
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You bet your sweet patootie I picked VH Darach over H Nemona lol! Picked up Alola boost on top of my free Kalos one, and 9 sync power ups.

Yes 9 lol

fossil bramble
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I bought another fire bonus as Argenta is super tanky, not remembering that I wasn't applying Trap SophoKEK

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But it has been done!

fair ember
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What the hell is this

timid oasis
fossil bramble
fair ember
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Gloria and Inteleon
Grass weak and asks for sleep

fossil bramble
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I thank the children

fossil bramble
timid oasis
simple frost
mental raft
fossil bramble
rancid zodiac
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MC upgrade PoryWoke so something bad must be waiting for me in a10

simple frost
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ultra jelly in the beginning, discounted? Cool.

tight escarp
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This is like the 3rd time I get Dragon upgrade

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Give me something new bru

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Ew first stage is sprint field too

serene spoke
simple frost
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?

serene spoke
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i only have 3 units

simple frost
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maintain wut?

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my spreadsheet?

serene spoke
serene spoke
simple frost
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tweaking and whatnot

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so i can just copy a cheat called v7 original

serene spoke
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so much effort

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i could never

simple frost
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it allows me to select which battles too

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those are dropdowns

serene spoke
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wow

simple frost
serene spoke
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if i start working on a project like this i forget about it and uhm

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leave it at 5% done

simple frost
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on PC, i'm able to type weakness or their name.

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uhm you can make a copy of my battle rally sheet, but its made for PC/Mac users

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not for mobile

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if you want for mobile, you can ask Pykuo's sheet

serene spoke
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nah its fine

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too much documentation for me

simple frost
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its a learning progress tbh

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i've even got a tally of ubs i've beaten, and points i've gotten each weak

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color coded too

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for monthly best/weekly best/lucky stage, and whatnot

serene spoke
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ig its good to see what progress u have made, but again too much effort for me

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especially when u are just playing to relax

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:p

rancid zodiac
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I did something like that, but my pc died and I couldn't restore it LarryDead

serene spoke
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rip

simple frost
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i do make physical backups though

tight escarp
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This game just loves giving me dark type VH stages

fair ember
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4 upgrades PrycePain

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In the end it was a matter of GUESSING when Giovanni uses his TM

simple frost
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if you pummel him with damage boosts or theme boosts.

leaden wraith
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Water upgrade RoxieInteresting
Crit powerup on R1 Buzzwoke
Staircase seed 🚮

stark zinc
mental raft
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This week summary!
Thanks to lucky area I was able to cross 11k mark for the first time! SkylaYay

This is my PB Perocchi

-# One week ago I got this same seed with same BFF theme, lucky area and good run made the difference! TabithaHehe

stark zinc
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What's the best Tech-Strike tanker BESIDES Anni '21 Lillie?

mental raft
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Evasion tanking

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Idk how well she will perform in A10 tho

stark zinc
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Ah fuck

fair ember
stark zinc
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1/5?

fair ember
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Doesnt matter cus its his tm

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And hes always next to NC red anyways

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Freeze to death

stark zinc
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I don't have tech/sprint unit and i only have 2 tech/field units

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This could be a hassle

brazen jungle
mental raft
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Field for Giovanni is good! HilbertHmm

timid oasis
mental raft
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Rather my luck was with me this time!

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I would say

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Luckily someone did that Steel team clear for me!
Without that I would be below 11k with Hard Argenta! SeleneLul

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But

stark zinc
tight escarp
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Noland just loves to appear in my rallies

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This time I have no guard chocalat in shop to help me

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This is the worst battle rally run I have done so far

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I just did Hard with Diantha, Arc Steven and Lodge Raihan

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I didn’t feel like suffering from Nolands wrath

mental raft
stark zinc
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Yeah sure

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Brendan dies in 2 turns

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I'm securing that 10k anyways

rancid zodiac
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Finally lucky stage after 3 runs in a row without it

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on the 1200 points stage BarryPogChamp

stark zinc
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Not bad for a fucked up Octo-Tech

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Oh wait

THIS RUN IS CARRIED BY A LUCKY STAGE LOL

rancid zodiac
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Hello there fellow a6 lucky stage enjoyer TabithaHehe

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LarryDead still beter than the recent UBs. I used Cerena...

fickle drum
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2x Hoenn upgrade, clapped VH Nemona with almost all full hp left KarenDAB

quiet apex
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Man I forget how fat HoliWhitney is.

astral path
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Mm… mhm… mhm… this is gonna suck

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The worst being that stretch at the end. I’ll almost certainly use apple cup but I’d want to somehow use my level 8 stage on level 9. And somehow get all the way to stage 10 like that.

quiet apex
#

Decent run.

rancid zodiac
simple frost
#

anabel?

rancid zodiac
#

yes, I could beat it with one less upgrade (base mc+50 points one), but I was too lazy (Red dies too often from random crits), so I bought another mc upgrade

simple frost
#

no damage upgrades i guess?

rancid zodiac
#

50 points upgrade (stat drop)

simple frost
#

so 2 mc themes + 1x power?

rancid zodiac
#

Yes

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I tried with Hilda, but she was too fragile for this, also fluid fortification didn't help either

simple frost
#

nice!

astral path
#

Why does this stage have so much hp? Am I missing something?

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I know I don’t have power boost on rn since I don’t have any 2x multipliers but this is a lot

simple frost
# astral path

my sheet says you need to drop their ATK and they have Sentry Entry x2

#

23k hp hrm

astral path
#

Is that physical or special defense I can never remember

simple frost
#

you gotta use special attacks

tight escarp
#

I’m going to make myself suffer again and waste another one of my free battle rally tickets I haven’t used

#

Um…

karmic wraith
#

i think this is my highest score with no bonus stage

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started w ground boost, bought 3 electric boosts 2 of which were on sale and a crit boost

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argenta exploded

tight escarp
#

Should I use Clemont or Volkner?

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I feel like Volkner can do more but idk

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Nah he can’t

leaden wraith
#

Clemont is your best bet

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You can try to time Serena's sleep to sleep lock the enemies

tight escarp
#

Okay so

#

I might have to use Apple cup

stark zinc
tight escarp
#

Ok this is wack wdym Defog doesn’t clear rain

#

Decent run ig

#

Had amazing stages and multipliers but Argenta just had to ruin my streak

#

Bought 3 electric type upgrades all the way

karmic wraith
#

congrats you created a hurricane

tight escarp
dull spire
timid hound
#

It's time for everyone's favorite time of the week

#

May I get a good boost BellePray_Kyatori

leaden wraith
#

no

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i stole crit pu from your r1 shop

timid hound
#

Dammit it didn't work

#

Nvm pivoted to Champion Upgrade like immediately

leaden wraith
#

call the theme weak and Ryu will appear in front of your bed tonight

bronze aspen
#

Who is this diva (derogatory)

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Why does this stage have he10

mental raft
#

It's SS Lear BC!

bronze aspen
#

I will cry

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The bonus is sprint field and the Stage has SEx2

#

It's not so bad were it not for blue using blizzard before sync tbh

mental raft
#

It's area 3 so buy another upgrade

#

I think you have to buy another upgrade later anyways

#

But try it once before that

bronze aspen
#

Buying another galar helped

zealous plover
#

Augh Palmer...have 3 gym leader boosts and support/strike bonuses

mental raft
#

Should be doable I guess!

sudden hull
zealous plover
mental raft
#

Have you tried it yet?

#

Try it and see how close you can get

timid hound
#

I've never been happier to see Argenta

simple frost
#

Argenta gaming ❤️

fossil bramble
#

Argenta our beloved

mental raft
#

It's showdown Argenta vs Better Argenta

copper nexus
simple frost
copper nexus
#

I got darach final round with Johto bonus with as Morty 2x bonus when I still had ssdiantha so it was free!

muted sparrow
#
  • Anabel: Volo
  • Thorton: SidneyYippee
  • Darach: PoryWoke
  • Argenta: SidneyYippee
  • Palmer: SidneyYippee
  • Lucy: DrasnaDeathStare
  • Leon: FurretCry
  • Nita: FurretCry
  • Noland: FurretCry
  • Giovani: FurretCry
  • Evelyn: Volo
  • MR: Volo
  • Nemona: FurretCry
simple frost
#

3 stacks of Dark Theme Boost + 4 stacks of EVA Power. 9.7k points (700 points used)

fossil bramble
#

Strike/Field Argenta this week for me

mental raft
#

I think Giovanni is a bit less gimmicky than other new UBs!
Could it be because I used AS Steven against him? Probably yeah!

#

Wait I am wrong I guess

#

I debuff it's SpAtk, Speed, Def and SpDef

simple frost
#

he didnt really do a lot of damage

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when i fought him

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i had waaaay too many upgrades i guess

timid hound
#

Gio gimmick is linear and easily countered with a well time haze/snatch/topsy turvy/etc

#

Can't say the same for someone like, say, Nemo

simple frost
#

nemo is like

#

either be quick with 2 grass terrains or 2 psychic terrains, and do enough damage lol.

timid hound
#

Oh wait he has that?

#

I guess so

#

Just win every coinflip 5head

simple frost
#

just -1 acc

#

iirc

sudden hull
simple frost
ionic sigil
#

I don’t think even Apple Cup can save me here with Noland. No Guard Chocolat in shop either

#

This seed was also awful in general with triple Sprintfield stages

simple frost
ionic sigil
#

I think only Endure when I looked

#

Which Fissure bypasses

#

I think the play is to drop to Hard Giovanni but will be waiting for Monday anyhow

#

The lack of Wide Guard I think is actually the bigger problem here since I could use Renegade Cynthia as the tank or Max Guard from SST Red to deal with Fissure

leaden wraith
#

the lack of support role on Noland stage leads to a drop down most of time

#

because no Wide Guard, yeah

ionic sigil
#

Hopefully DeNA starts dropping more units with Wide Guard or the equivalent in the future for this

#

The only options are like Lana, Roxanne and maybe SS Mina iirc

leaden wraith
#

there are some teams that are capable of brute forcing through without Wide Guard, but i don't think it's easy to replicate those clears in rally

#

so yeah if non support Noland stage appears, you should always move down to H unless Guard Chocolat

ionic sigil
#

Given my boosts as well, not happening.

#

I just hope Giovanni isn’t horrendous now

simple frost
#

just dont let him sync.

leaden wraith
#

Tech means you can bring Hazer at least

#

the bigger issue is WTZ control

ionic sigil
#

SST Red probably for that.

#

Ideally SST Red, SS Diantha and SS Lyra for points but wouldn’t be surprised if Akari is needed

leaden wraith
#

you can give it a try first

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to see if you can clear him before he starts wiping your team out with maxed stats

#

that's why i suggested using a Hazer earlier

ionic sigil
#

I’ll experiment later. Worst case is probably like Akari, SST Red and a Haze unit

ionic sigil
#

Looks easily doable, so will do this on Monday. Now if only I could clear the standard Giovanni battle outside of Rally

leaden wraith
#

Glad to hear that a Hazer is not needed

ionic sigil
#

I’m more surprised he can be flinched

mental raft
#

Yes he can be flinched!

serene spoke
leaden wraith
#

perhaps it was because Argenta is easy to clear with their eligible units

serene spoke
#

oh argenta is an easy fight?

#

every time i see someone talk about it thye are usually sad

#

(perhaps also cuz i couldnt do it)

#

tbf i cant do most UB

leaden wraith
#

for UB's standards, she is on the easier side

#

ofc the difficulty of each UB bases on one's current roster

#

it's natural for newcomers to not be able to beat UBs

serene spoke
#

the reaction of most people to a given UB as their A10 VH

prisma gyro
#

Why cry at leon? Just rat his shit up

fossil bramble
#

Imagine if you didn't even get his roles at A10

leaden wraith
prisma gyro
#

I've actually never tried not ratting him

fossil bramble
prisma gyro
#

Priorities

muted sparrow
fossil bramble
#

Yes Leon that role is not saving you

prisma gyro
#

Oh UB, not rally

rapid notch
#

Unova,champion or rival?

mental raft
#

Think about it like which category double bonus fits your seed the most!

rapid notch
#

Not available on r1 sadly

mental raft
#

For maximum points

rapid notch
#

Well since i can't see it,what do I do?

#

If i clear the stage I lose champion and rival

mental raft
#

Champion is better than others I think!

serene spoke
#

Poison boost :/

#

Tech sprint first stage hmm

#

Alr good it's tech the entire way

#

Nvm

rapid notch
#

What the hell is this stage

heavy fjord
#

Elaine event battle challenge, one of the worse in the pool

rapid notch
#

How do I even win

#

I have champion boost equipped

sudden hull
#

cry until you kill the sides before they use haze

#

i guess

rapid notch
#

They use haze in the first sync cycle

#

Retire?

sudden hull
#

no

#

never retire

#

it doesnt count towards the weekly and it also gives you only 20%

ionic sigil
#

Flinch chaining them should be easy enough with SS Lyra

digital otter
#

For opp rebuff item, if I have both ground rebuff and steel rebuff on, does it apply the bonus for each?

sudden hull
#

Doesnt stack with unique instances

digital otter
#

oh no.

#

so x2 or different type buffs wont do anything.

sudden hull
#

Correct

serene spoke
kindred seal
#

So uh, how to win this? Sure Crit is a lose condition and that happens around 40%

leaden wraith
#

have you considered giving everyone Vigilance

#

and then you still have to think about rushing to 0% before Giovanni wrecks you

kindred seal
#

The part where he +12 all his stats is the beginning of the end

leaden wraith
#

he uses his TMs when his HP reaches certain thresholds

kindred seal
#

I don't think there's enough time to rush through all the checkpoints

leaden wraith
#

well you can time your sync right in order to sync nuke him before he uses the second TM

#

wait, how much HP he has left before he destroyed you?

kindred seal
#

35%

#

Or 40%. I just don't have the means to get those attack stats down in time

copper nexus
#

Who do you sync with?

#

I think your issue lies in using dark cerena when you’re not syncing

#

It’s way more important to debuff his stats with the multi debuff and penalty doubling of ncleaf than it is to deal 1% to the sides. Focus on center and debuffing using water shuriken for damage and debuffs and when it’s time to sync switch to dark mode

kindred seal
#

Serena, Leaf, Serena, then it's game over

copper nexus
#

Also do you never use hyper beam?

kindred seal
#

That's what I tried this time. It was working well until that sync came up and wiped me. 1k across the board

copper nexus
#

He doesn’t appear to have spdef debuffs

kindred seal
#

He had already +12 his stats

copper nexus
#

With how many fire upgrades you have if you’re properly debuffing him, ensuring rising tide isn’t going off, his sync should definitely not kill you

leaden wraith
#

sync with NC Leaf first

#

wait nvm Leaf needs to preserve her sun

copper nexus
#

Is her penalty doubling only when suns up?

leaden wraith
#

nope, the doubling is tied to her B Move

#

you need WTZ to deal full damage to Giovanni

copper nexus
#

I see

kindred seal
#

This battle is evil hard

leaden wraith
#

i think replacing Arc Lance is a better option

copper nexus
#

Could we replace Lance it’s less of a bonus but you could use someone as a backup to a wtz for Gio

leaden wraith
#

yeah it seems he is holding the team back

copper nexus
#

Also I can’t double down enough on ensuring Gio doesn’t have rising tide up for his sync +12 is close to max rising tide and even with a a bigger bonus you’d still likely die to that sync. Do not use dark mode outside of cerena syncing and primarily focus on the water debuffs also for damage

leaden wraith
#

also Tech role allows you to bring a Hazer which is very helpful, or an on demand WTZ setter

kindred seal
#

The accuracy drops make things even more difficult than they already are

leaden wraith
#

the sides are going to be painful to deal with once the mid dies so you should be well prepared

copper nexus
#

If you use an acuity tank they’d prevent your Allie’s from being debuffed when he’s not using an aoe

leaden wraith
#

the accuracy debuffs come from the sides and they have a couple of aoe moves

copper nexus
#

I see

leaden wraith
#

SS Misty comes handy in this case because she can handle 2 gimmicks at once

kindred seal
#

I literally did 999,999 damage for the first time. But those HP stops prevented it from actually clearing the center

copper nexus
#

Well are you timing your syncs so that they are either after a certain threshold so they’re damage won’t get blocked/so you can get maximum value of damage from the sync

kindred seal
#

It's really too random to predict them precisely all the time

copper nexus
#

How do you mean, the hp thresholds at least for Gio are 80% and 40% ensuring you’re meeting these damage requirements before you sync isn’t that difficult to ensure

kindred seal
#

Each run is too different. I'll go over sync just to counter something or time something else and it gets really unpredictable very fast.

#

Especially with Serena from switching. Easy waste of a turn there depending on the situation. Or essential recovery or things like that which disrupt the typical move order

#

Okay, my game has frozen twice, so it's clearly a sign I've been at this too long. I'll try again tomorrow.

copper nexus
#

But you control Serena’s form switching, additionally the only sense of RNG that should be involved is whether you’re getting the proper debuffs from water shuriken. I’m not sure how you’re being burst down by Gio when a x4 fire bonus and based on your the first screenshot you sent you’re able to get Gio past the hp thresholds really fast assuming that was gios first sync

kindred seal
#

Sure Crit is an instant lose. And he puts that out at the last threshold. Usually when weather runs out

leaden wraith
#

also i don't think Serena disrupts the move order that much, even when changing to Dark form lands flinch on every enemy

#

because in that case you could tap quickly to sneak the next move in

copper nexus
#

I feel like as long as Gio doesn’t have Rising tide or brain sync up you shouldn’t be dying to even a sure crit sync

#

With a 4x bonus you can survive that with even 1 bonus if his sync isn’t setup

leaden wraith
#

also i think it's better to lower Dark rebuff on the sides, one for each so you can deal with them easier later

leaden wraith
kindred seal
#

Misty is neat but didn't get me any farther

#

Because again, the sure crit sync at 30% is an instant lose, even at no stats raised. 1k+ across the board

leaden wraith
#

have you tried sync nuking from 40% to 0% after hazing the stat buffs? or by that time Giovanni is about to use Sure Crit All?

kindred seal
#

I got as far as 3% once probably because I pulled that off somehow. But there are too many variables that late in the battle to try it consistently

leaden wraith
#

if you are able to record your gameplay it will be very helpful for helpers to pinpoint your mistakes and give feedbacks

quaint star
#

This upgrade is busted WEEZing
||"You're Champion. He's Champion! She's Champion! I'm Champion! Anyone I don't know who's Champion!?||

simple frost
#

delicious bulk upgrade!

kindred seal
#

Came in super clutch. Somehow managed to survive the sure crit sync

mental raft
#

Incredible

#

RNG save lives

stark dawn
#

That's a new item right?

kindred seal
#

Not sure. It's a real lol item if you're gonna run an Arc Suit for the whole thing

mental raft
stark dawn
#

That's the generic type theme skill image

mental raft
#

Not that!
I mean similar green Power Up

digital otter
#

Eat it Leon you and your sides sleepers.

#

Why didn't I think of lucky cookies to counter that earlier...

#

Wide awake

copper nexus
stark dawn
#

Really

copper nexus
# stark dawn Really

Ye I remember Annie posting a screenshot of it and I didn’t know what buff it was a very long time ago

slow dirge
#

ok this rally did not want me to finish it lmao

#

it's given me some fucking brutal fights

#

round 8 was the kris fight that was legitimately oneshotting ss acerola with 2 buffs behind her

#

and now the finale?

#

VH Nemona, H Leon.

#

I do not have anything that works for either of these

#

I will have to drop to normal

urban ledge
#

Not even with Apple Cup?

simple frost
slow dirge
#

strike/field

#

but it didn't matter bc I had nothing useful left

simple frost
#

ah rip.

slow dirge
#

the two arcs can't do shit on Leon and I had no terrain for nemona

simple frost
#

can just clear the terrain then

slow dirge
#

I didn't have anything to clear terrain with

simple frost
#

with misty or something .-.
But no role bonus. ;-;

slow dirge
#

yeah absolutely nothing on bonus

#

actually wait no I literally used mix red lmao

#

but double arc/mix red missed all the powerups I had

#

hell ss morty/arcyn/mixred would've been feasible but probably would've collapsed bc morty's electric weak

sudden hull
oak jolt
#

Nothing good in the final shop, and Nita was kinda brutal ,even if I spent 150 for extra stats I wasn't sure that I could have won against Nita, there aren't much units that can constantly AOE debuff speed and get rid of standstorm

serene spoke
simple frost
#

no more poison tech or supports?:o?

serene spoke
#

I have lucy

#

But I wanna save her

#

Cuz like look at this

#

Poison is like the worst for me

#

I only have 4

#

Nvm the 2nd worst

simple frost
#

You can employ a poison support eggmon if you have any.... but that's worst case scenario.

serene spoke
#

Mhm

#

What should I do

leaden wraith
#

You don't have any Poison pair left beside Lucy?

#

I don't see Koga in your screenshots either

serene spoke
#

No I dont have koga

serene spoke
#

None that match the boost anyway

leaden wraith
#

Koga is literally free to obtain

#

You should finish every story content asap

serene spoke
#

Ok

#

But still

simple frost
#

you'll really need everyone you've got available tbh.

formal gull
#

That was quite a gamble of a last round

#

Vs Lucy btw

tribal sorrel
#

I got a 2,100 points lucky stage, but the final battle was Nemona, so I had to spend 150 points on stuff lol. I could have gotten closer to 12k points earned if I got a better luck on the lucky stage, and if Darach was the final lol. The lucky stage I got was Field/Sprint lol

#

I think this is my new record with a lucky stage nevertheless

fluid mountain
#

All areas done on VH.
Just 1 BC, plus 1 PSS Champion, and the rest CS. Masked Royal UB at last area, which used two ice-weak pairs, and luckily beat him before sync with low spending.

Items used:

  • 1 Steel Upgrade (start)
  • 1 Champion Upgrade (100, from A2)
  • 1 Opp. Attack Down PU (50, for A10)

Battles per area:
1: Cynthia Dragon-W CS
2: NC Leaf Water-W PSS
3: Alder Rock-W CS
4: Janine BC (from Iono event)
5: Agatha Dark-W CS
6: Hau Bug-W CS
7: Aaron Electric-W CS
8: Glacia Fighting-W CS
9: Cynthia Poison-W CS
10: Masked Royal UB

sweet mango
serene spoke
simple frost
serene spoke
#

tech field'

#

i have only just reached A3

leaden wraith
#

What team are you using

serene spoke
#

Wait does the Battle rally reset today?

timid oasis
#

So if you haven't beat it, you should hurry up

serene spoke
#

Alr

#

I also have to do the CS :/

timid oasis
serene spoke
#

What should I do first

timid oasis
normal python
#

Hmmmm, rough really for me. I have Nemona as my VH stage and support/sprint as my bonus roles. I still have NC Rosa retained, but since I have Sinnoh boost, I need SSA Cynthia

#

I wonder if I should say fuck it and do Hard Lucy instead with full bonus HilbertHmm

leaden wraith
#

If you don't have caked SS Lana it's a good idea to drop to H

normal python
#

I don't even have SS Lana

#

If you're wondering what's in my shop

leaden wraith
#

Not having SS Lana is enough reason to avoid Nemona UB

normal python
#

Is that so?

#

Ok

sweet mango
#

Should i go with elec or ice

normal python
#

Electric definitely

sweet mango
#

Nc blue is strike/support and a10 is tech sprint

normal python
#

Well, electric has overall better units

normal python
#

That's hella juicy

sweet mango
#

i'm on a7

#

a8*

#

i have 3

leaden wraith
#

Tech Sprint on A10 allows Irida, NC Red and Fall Shauntal who have gimmick checks for various UBs to be usable

normal python
#

But if you do get Masked Royal as your VH, you have electric as your backup

leaden wraith
#

Since you are already late into the progress i think focusing on UB is the priority

normal python
#

But wait, ice has SS N anyways to counter Masked Royal

#

To counter all of his gimmicks in general

sweet mango
#

ice ice baby

#

i find that i do comfort clears at the expense of role bonuses and I still get 10k+

normal python
#

I sorta pinged you out of desperation

leaden wraith
#

Even without terrain setter who must have multiple terrain settings? Absolutely a waste of points

normal python
#

Alright then

#

And also, among the sprint/support units, who deals the most damage?

sweet mango
#

tech/sprint a8 vs rock zone raihan and I have 2.0x archer vs 1.5x ss lyra

#

do i wanna suffer

normal python
#

I'm pretty tempted to do Nemona with Bianca

simple frost
#

Oh and they have wise entry x2

leaden wraith
leaden wraith
normal python
sweet mango
#

they're evasive and bite flinch chance is 60%

#

cradily last one alive and archer misses bite twice

leaden wraith
#

It's up to you to bite the bullet. Seeing is believing, after all

normal python
leaden wraith
#

Tell me something new

normal python
#

Alright, I'll try Nemona first

#

Ok, Nemona is hella weak

#

For now

sweet mango
#

man, this is worse than hse. I have ss wally's fairy zone, ss may's accuracy +1 and phys damage and 60% flinch from archer

#

sides are evasive

normal python
#

Well, that was closer than I expected it to be

half bone
#

anyone got advice for taking on Masked Royal's fight?

#

never did it before

normal python
#

And seen

#

Final results

normal python
half bone
#

It's Sprint/Support bonuses.

normal python
#

The fight is attuned for Oleana and Geeta

half bone
#

Well, I don't have Oleana and Geeta can't fit the role.

#

lower difficulty is Anabell.

#

SHould I just go lower dificulty?

normal python
half bone
#

Yeah.

normal python
#

Do you have SS Kris?

half bone
#

Yeah.

normal python
#

Caked?

half bone
#

No but I have plenty of resources for that.

normal python
#

Well, SS Kris is one of the units made for Anabel

#

And you need strong debuffers too

half bone
#

NC Blue work?

normal python
#

He can

half bone
#

I'll use Rei as the boost unit (fighting boost)

normal python
#

He can work too since he can debuff defenses too

#

So you have 3 sources of constant debuffing

half bone
#

I'll go for that.

sweet mango
#

a10 nita vh

#

with less than an hour left

half bone
#

8300 points, even with a hard finish.

#

I think that's pretty alright.

sweet mango
#

Hey, i beat nita with 3 ice, 4 crit up

serene spoke
#

I don't think I can do a good rally so should I just do all easy?

#

So I can get those few points and 300 gems

normal python
dusk eagle
serene spoke
#

Yea I will

dusk eagle
#

Welcome to my world of doing rally last second half the time 😅

serene spoke
#

WAIT MY RALLY DIDNT RESET

#

Let's goo

#

Well rip 300 gems tho

#

I even got a lucky area :D

fossil bramble
#

DARACH MY BELOVED (?)

#

Maybe I should hold off? I'm planning to pull for Adaman RosaThink

mental raft
#

Trial Giver

And Tech Support 4 way seed! DrasnaDeathStare

fossil bramble
#

I got Gym Leader

serene spoke
#

Bruh i accidentally did this while doing the rally

fossil bramble
#

So I can Larry + Adaman + someone

serene spoke
#

Giovanni is easy right

mental raft
#

Not easy, but doable!

#

Easier than MR too!

serene spoke
#

Hmmm

#

But I don't have Dmg field

mental raft
#

You need a WTZ!

#

Works fine

serene spoke
#

Ok

#

Might just get apple cip

mental raft
#

Apple Cup alone probably won't be enough against new UBs!

sudden hull
#

its a tech bonus

sudden hull
#

giovanni should absolutely be doable

#

hard mode is a massive drop in difficulty compared to vh for a10 and tech allows you to use haze

serene spoke
#

Hmm but I need wtz

mental raft
#

Many tech has wtz!

serene spoke
#

I don't have a wtz with haze

#

Ima just do easy

#

I don't have enough brain

urban ledge
#

Oh eww

tender hollow
#

uhhhhh now what

urban ledge
#

Go easy I guess lol

tender hollow
#

is that the best way to do it at this point

#

or is it worth replacing a 2.0 with 1.5

fossil bramble
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Let's see...

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do have SS Hau but only 1/5

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Leon needs status condition. Bonus if ET is present for anti sleep?

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even then that wont status

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Nita needs non-sandstorm weather, and agressive -spd debuff

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What's the shop look like

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What's the one on the right

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speed jelly

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Also what bonus is that

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Sinnoh

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was kinda banking on Palmer to show cuz Rei and Riley

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and the only other 2.0s I have are SS Gladion and Lysandre

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Oh. Also I meant on the upper right. The one above the jelly,

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ah

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rebuff

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Oh huh

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100% power up if opponent has lowered rebuff

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which wont help cuz none of my 2.0s can rebuff

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For the meantime, try to see where the full bonus takes you on hard

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Full bonus on hard = 750
Full bonus on VH + appleCup = 700

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not far

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no one can tank or deal with sand

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yep

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Gladion and Riley are dead by first sync

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and sync takes out Rei