#Battle Rally

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verbal verge
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I see what you're saying lol

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No idea how they came up with these setups but there was obviously something systematic about I guess

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I updated my list of A10s WEEZing

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RNG be like that

vast narwhal
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Theres this fight where the enemy was weak to fire but had no fire dmg dealers available so I used NC Cheren

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But Kiawe couldn't tank the damages, so what did I do to help that?

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Flannery Torkoal with will o wisp

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Really fun to use pairs that are rarely used onto rally

wary cove
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does anyone happen to know if bruno is packing any fire moves? since i rolled fighting bonus i was hoping to just go ssa cynthia all the way but diantha and malva will both be a bad time with fire weakness

leaden wraith
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You can check every rally stage's info in the pins' pastebin links

wary cove
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oh we have that? sick

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my apologies!

leaden wraith
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Tho don't really recommend following your current playstyle because the point income is low. Unless you are perfectly fine with it

wary cove
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i'm mostly in battle rally for the 300 gems per week djkdhfghkf

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i might do a second one this week just bc i actually used a couple role cake vouchers but

gray kite
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If I buy another Hoen upgrade does it stack or is the effect only applied once, no mather how many I buy?

wary cove
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i currently have all of four pairs who even have an exr to potentially cake up

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and none of the ones i dont have unlocked are hugely useful wrt battle rally apart from sprint being sprint

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ig for support strike i could gun hard for penny exr before i start this cycle but

leaden wraith
wary cove
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ok im thinking redlax blue and a fighting strike for round 1, swap fighting strike for fighting tech for round 2 and blue for a water tech or support, then do redlax ssa cynthia and figure it out from there on out (either skip third multiplier for round 3 or put rika in until area 7 when i finish all field bonuses)

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mathematically i think it comes out the same?

dry ice
stiff flume
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Weatherless Anabel BarryPogChamp

simple frost
dry ice
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It wasn't anything crazy. Spent about 475 pts for alola x3, attack = debuff and debuffs = power

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My innate power up was ice upgrade

simple frost
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Impressive still

heavy fjord
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Had a lucky stage but this run felt good. MC base upgrade.

fluid mountain
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A lucky area! ...it's field/sprint bonus... LarryDead LarryDead LarryDead

urban ledge
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Perfect place to slot in your non existent Greta

oak jolt
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I Guess i could have saved 50, but I couldn't resist getting crit buff, however I think single speed buff was enough for argenta

prisma gyro
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I think i'm gonna do it

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I'm gonna apple cup anabel

prisma gyro
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Get applecupped

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Applecup so good i didn't even need to change the weather

simple frost
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Nice

muted sparrow
simple frost
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Ground...... Yikes

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Anything in shop that can help hard?

leaden wraith
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Pykuo you have 3/5 Ingo right

muted sparrow
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Yes,i’m trying him rn

leaden wraith
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Hopefully your Cerena is not used yet

muted sparrow
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Yep, i saved her just for this stupid case

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And NC Blue too

leaden wraith
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Then it's VoloStonks

sudden hull
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should i use sst and ss diantha on a3 or save them

leaden wraith
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I would save them for A9 unless you encounter lucky stage on either A3 or A6

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Saving them for A9 also allows you to reuse them for A10 if they can check/counter the UB

sudden hull
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true

fluid mountain
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Done with all areas on VH. Got an unlucky lucky area with field/sprint as bonus (no Greta LarryDead). Otherwise, it was mostly a FIELD day, with Thorton UB at A10, which sadly needed to drop a x2.0 NC Nate for a special damage dealer, plus some items to beat him.

Items used:

  • 1 Fighting Upgrade (starting)
  • 2 Champion Upgrade (200)
  • 2 Crit PU (100)
normal python
prisma gyro
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Wdym ValeriePlead

oak jolt
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Probably that the apple cup isn't worth it

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Generally is better to drop difficulty or put an off role counter

prisma gyro
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I know, i cleared hard palmer first try. I just wanted to see if apple cup could deal with anabel with sun. I've bought all the essentials from the shop this month anyway.

oblique breach
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What this for

sudden hull
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2.5 trio

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i dont think you actually need to change the weather

oblique breach
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OK

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2.5 trio, this is the one with Skyla and Tornadus, rite?

leaden wraith
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The gimmick of this battle is dealing super effective dmg, as every enemy has Tough Skin

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But with Leon Alt it is not a problem

elfin tendon
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Such an annoying week simply because x3 role boost still isn't enough DPS for lucy

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Going to get x4 next week because I'm fed up

oblique breach
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Who's this for?

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It's trap or be trapped

sudden hull
oblique breach
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ok

oblique breach
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Just forgot how impossibly tough Palmer becomes

formal gull
formal gull
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not the Piers BC

sudden heron
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Tf is this game

sudden hull
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1/625 odds

urban ledge
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No choice haha

tall citrus
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I’m hardly doing any damage with the special damage redection

leaden wraith
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That stage is infamous for reducing dmg from non super effective attacks

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You better use an ontype dmg dealer(s), or bring Piercing Blows user(s)

tall citrus
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I just dropped it to hard

twilit chasm
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A9 and still getting shittiest upgrade 💀

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Thanks game. Totally make me feel better.

leaden wraith
simple frost
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how's your johto/normal for it though?

twilit chasm
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Had to buy johto upgrade at a7 with field/sprint and xmas skyla

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This run is fk shit

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I give up i have no debuffer for anabel anymore

simple frost
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what about lucy then?

twilit chasm
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Lucy is the easiest boss so ye

simple frost
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gl then~

twilit chasm
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I swear if people really think theres any boss harder than fk anabel then they just have skill issue 💢

leaden wraith
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not until Nita and Leon join rally

twilit chasm
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Dont give them that idea

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At least i can go full bonus with lucy LarryDead

lost cliff
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still over 10k!

ebon valve
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2nd time I get strike field Lucy. 🙂

simple frost
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mix red gaming o/

normal python
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I just realized I have a mostly tech/field path with rock upgrade DianthaSmile

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And I got Kanto upgrade in A3 WeezingLFG

brisk zealot
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This week was SS Lana gaming
Alola boost + psychic terrain boost + 9/10 stages having sprint or strike

mental raft
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4 seeds possible!
Dark upgrade! HilbertHmm

leaden wraith
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Kalos upgrade and this seed. Out of 4 (soon to be 5) Field Tech only Red will be used on A10 LarryDead

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why do their WTZ conflict with each other EusineWhy

simple frost
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oh hell no ;-;

leaden wraith
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Electric Terrain power up the stars are aligning

simple frost
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man i wwwould've bought the bug power, bug zone

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if it wasn't this seed hrm

leaden wraith
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it's A10 too so i can't craft a silly team

mental raft
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Oh that's bad!
You can bring only two!

leaden wraith
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actually i only bring Red

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he is a great check to most UB

urban ledge
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Ugh

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Bug

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And 3 possibke paths

simple frost
urban ledge
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Yeap lol

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Alright this one right here is my route

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Not the worst at least

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I ALMOST MISSED THIS

crisp token
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Good start

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VERY good start

obsidian sentinel
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Oh no I got a field run WhitneySad

simple frost
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well goodluck

crisp token
simple frost
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my bug field is for up there haaaah

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can't be helped

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hrm kalos upgrade

sudden flower
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I got normal upgrade TabithaHehe

stiff flume
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Pain, and battle facility theme in the shop

simple frost
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i haaven't bought anyone... yet ;-;

tulip dove
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trade offer: you get 2 guaranteed lucky areas per rally but all bonuses become field/sprint

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do you take the deal?

leaden wraith
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yes, why not?

prisma gyro
crisp token
prisma gyro
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Oh wait they're all the same. Sstr time

crisp token
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Horrible deal

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Unless you mean the lucky stages only are Field Sprint

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I assumed all floors are just Sprint Field

prisma gyro
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500+750×10+300×2.5×2 = 9500

crisp token
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Right plus the starting bonus

prisma gyro
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No deal LilliePout

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Greta can shine i guess

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500+900×10+300×3×2=11300

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Downside is you have to use greta on every stage GretaCringe

simple frost
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8.8k - vs lucy at the end

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bad upgrade at the start haah

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oh wells.

fair ember
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Easy full health Very Hard Argenta

crisp token
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LET'S
FRIGGIN
GOOOOO

simple frost
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2400 points leets goooooo

crisp token
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Honestly the only downside of this week is that nasty A10 role bonus

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Where are my Water Fields, DeNA?

mental raft
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Wtf is this battle!

Looks to me like some sort of Extreme battle of some event!
Not doable, it is killing everyone one hit!

simple frost
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you need to drop their stats iirc.

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mostly ATK

mental raft
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Field sprint limiting me from doing that

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I guess I should do hard

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This seed is one of the worst as well!
It has 3 areas each for Strike+Sprint and tech+supp
I can't get much of double bonus as well!

Dang

crisp token
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Oh... Maybe...?

tawdry temple
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Is there a way to change this trash? 🥲

twilit chasm
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You can buy a different upgrade

tawdry temple
mental raft
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Yeah

tulip dove
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MC upgrade > all other upgrades

tawdry temple
mental raft
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It's okay to not get MC!
You can get another good upgrade!

Good upgrade is simply what can cover all of the seed! (Mostly should have Sprint Field coverage as well)

tawdry temple
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Cleared the first stage, this is what's going to show up next.
I have a field cake that I still havent used (returning player, it's the only one I have) and now it looks like the perfect time to give it to either SS Lyra or SST Red.
Which one? Red is 3/5, Lyra is still 1/5 but flinch spam might be God tier for rally

leaden wraith
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I would say Red

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For Lyra just supply her with a gauge suppott

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I recommend saving Red for the last 2 arenas

tawdry temple
leaden wraith
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Point wise, yes

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They don't even have matching roles with A4 and A7

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And they both want their terrain to be up

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I also recommended saving Lyra for A6

urban ledge
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Oh man

tawdry temple
# leaden wraith Point wise, yes

As I said I am a returning player so I don't have a lot of field and sprint units so if I use one of them I need to keep them alive for the other stages

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The only one I have right now are Wally and Altaria and the Ghost one that was free last year

leaden wraith
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Please turn off the ping

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You literally have enough pairs to cover for that

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For non Red/Lyra round you can just bring 3 tech

quiet tiger
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Another low-ish points run it seems with a boost I had last month

crisp token
# crisp token Oh... Maybe...?

Alright took a while but got it, needed 1 more Crit and a lucky Accuracy boost (thanks NC Silver for packing that 1 little Acc) and just barely beat it, had to get lucky with a Confusion proc too

Total: 3x Crit, 1x Acc

sudden hull
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this stage is so annoying

simple frost
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Oof. Whats the role bonus and upgrades?

sudden hull
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well i beat it

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but i had to spend 150 points for upgrades

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thankfully VH is lucy

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this is doable right

leaden wraith
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that team has no gauge and no Dragon in sight

sudden hull
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hm yeah id have to drop sst or hilbert wouldnt i

leaden wraith
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SST Red drops speed and has great dmg, keep him

urban ledge
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Final area was support sprint and I don’t see how a team full of that can beat it haha. Still managed to get 10k and finished purchasing the last of tickets, powerups, and orbs and still have 6,4k tickets leftover.

fresh holly
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Considering a tech sprint pair to invest in, only typing I am missing thoughs on most useful?

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Personal thoughts this guy^

midnight kestrel
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i mean he gives the boost

sudden hull
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isnt sprint tech still only him or am i wrong

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oh wait theres plumeria and larry now

sudden hull
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in terms of offense

karmic wraith
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holy free

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there goes all my luck here comes 100 dead pulls

fresh holly
karmic wraith
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think he meant sprint with tech exr

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not tech w sprint exr

fresh holly
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Ah its the same though

karmic wraith
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…yes but it requires different resources

sudden hull
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well i still believe that tech/sprint + sprint/tech combos are the rarest in the game

karmic wraith
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it is

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only 7

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well besides you know what

sudden hull
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greta gaming

quiet tiger
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I keep forgetting my SS Lana is EX R but it worked out in the end

quiet apex
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Well up yours too game

urban ledge
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Eesh

tight escarp
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Ok so for Battle Rally what do I do

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Do I just use the weakest units

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It’s so confusing 😭

leaden wraith
quiet apex
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Batting my usual average

urban ledge
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The goal in Battle Rally is to maximize your points gain, which you can later use to purchase items from the shop. But yeah the pins help in doing that

mental raft
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Lucy at 25% and sides are dead before my team fainted, and that's the best I could do with NC Rosa as tank (which is not even a role bonus).

The only support I can use is Iono, which is not doing much!

I tried to tank with Rei / DC Marnie for theme boosts, but they can't tank!

So I don't be able to fit an Dark/Fighting pair for this battle, and I don't think I can beat Hard Thorton with this line-up! HilbertHmm

What should I do?

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This seed is cursed!

leaden wraith
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Iono Geeta NC Cheren might be able to clear H Thorton without spending any points

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tho clearing VH with Rei, NC Cheren and Iono still gives more pts

mental raft
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Hmm I will try Lucy with Rei first! RosaThink

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Thankyou Gakon! MallowHeart Perocchi

leaden wraith
pearl lion
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amazing seed and psychic boost in the shop on round 1

sudden flower
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I sometimes use nonsense teams in 10th hall

twilit chasm
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looks more like a braindead comp rather than nonsense lol

sudden flower
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Yea u can say

sweet mango
timid hound
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Best of luck you'll need it

mental raft
prisma gyro
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Oh yes PoryWoke

simple frost
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1 drop of opp stats, damage upgrade ;O

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crrit power is still the best though

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but if you know your roster, and you can drop stats + managing your rrolee bonus, could be good

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on the way up i mean (seems to be area 03 or 02)

prisma gyro
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stat down pow up and inter opp pow up are always must buy for me. Such easy power ups. Second only to crit boost for sure.

simple frost
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interference is kinda bad though. ;-;

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unless you have multiple that can flinch/confuse/bind

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aand most a10s clear interference

prisma gyro
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nc blue and ssac are solid supports that can apply interference for me

simple frost
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status is probably better than interference power o.o

prisma gyro
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oh yeah that too

simple frost
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poison/paralyze/burn is permanent, most of the time.

prisma gyro
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yeah bulbapedia this is readable

crisp token
simple frost
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Ew thats bad

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Horizontal lines need thicker lines

prisma gyro
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find all the 5 matches

prisma gyro
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Yesssss keep buffing and not attack me you silly monkeys

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blizzard WILL oneshot emolga GeetaTired

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(I need to clear this sprintfield stage without theme boost, johto, and reuse them for the role bonus, sprint tech, on the next stage)

sweet mango
sweet mango
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Which tech/support should I save?

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Thinking about giving exr to nc calem

prisma gyro
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that's a lot of techsupps

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ncerena is probably a good option to save. in case of anabel.

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3rd week with lucky area in a row MonkaScottie

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But i burned both ncalem and ncerena earlier EusineWhy

leaden wraith
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That's why i usually save double bonus pairs for the last rounds

prisma gyro
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i usually do that but this week i forgor

sweet mango
sweet mango
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Which of 3/5 exr ss wally, 3/5 exr ss may, 3/5 exr archer, 3/5 exr larry should I keep for a10

sweet mango
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should I keep ss wally for a10?

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i have a sprint cake

sweet mango
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man, elec weak lance has x resist all

sweet mango
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Thorton boss with 2 kalos, 1 battle facility foe, and 4 crit power up

simple frost
sweet mango
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I caked 1/5 ss nemona and 3/5 nc calem

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had adaman irida bc at a9 with only 4 crit power up as applicable bonus

tight escarp
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Will the villain things stack or

leaden wraith
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same boosts will stack

tight escarp
leaden wraith
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with 2 boosts, yeah

stark zinc
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If it was Thorton UB instead of Lucy UB, then it would have been 10k

rancid zodiac
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Is she quite new or was I lucky enough to avoid her that long? Acute senses 8, double haze from the sides, it's all I ever wanted (Gladion says hello to stat drops PoryWoke )

leaden wraith
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you are quite lucky then

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i still have yet to encounter some specific stages

timid hound
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One od the most evil stages

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SS Gladion poops on her but he is the exception

glass patrol
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Bound to happen eventually

leaden wraith
glass patrol
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But hey number still big

thin bison
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Is move mg worth on sale?

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Never messed around with any powerups other than theme upgrades

sudden hull
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its one area only

lost cliff
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on the dot

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my boosts suuucked the whole time, started with villain and only got a rock upgrade at the end. did hard argenta with alt elio and paulo

simple frost
sudden hull
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oh wait it is u right

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but either way it doesnt help with damage so meh

simple frost
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if its on sale, if you have a lot of sync pairs that eat 4 gauge, on the way up... maybee.

crisp token
twilit chasm
slow dirge
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Tfw your rally run is saved in round 4 by fecking thorton

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In other news, I really wish the game would give me a useful powerup

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I've been stuck with facility foe

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And the only offerings have been Normal and Electric

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Useful stuff pls

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trial giver
The game is mocking me

prisma gyro
verbal verge
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How do y'all do these with less than 5 upgrades SophoKEK I couldn't make it

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Just barely. If I had caked Blue or gridded some offensive tiles on him I would have done it

frail raptor
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You can always reach battle 10 with 0-2 upgrades and then use the apple cap

prisma gyro
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If you use both theme upgrades and conditional power ups you can get a bigger boost

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1 theme upgrade and 1 conditonal power up both active gives you 4× attack for example

wary kayak
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If I get a good freebie theme upgrade, I end up budgeting 350pts (2 more stacks of theme, 3 stacks of a good dmg multi) to deal 16× damage

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Is that what you mean by 5 upgrades or were you actually trying to stack five copies of a theme upgrade

verbal verge
verbal verge
verbal verge
static arch
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Upgrade and power up are each separate multipliers

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So yes always good to do 3x3 for easy area 10

twilit chasm
verbal verge
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Wdym carry debuff?

twilit chasm
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anabel requires heavy debuff

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if she has any buff she becomes very tanky

verbal verge
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Now that I know it's multiplicative the easy way out for me is just paying up 50 for a damage multiplier and I'll easily beat the stage

verbal verge
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So I'm good 👍

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Unless you have a better idea

twilit chasm
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as heavy debuff i mean more than -1 per turn

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honestly i dont even rmb how much debuff nc blue can do

verbal verge
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It's worked out ok I think? Do you have another idea?

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-1 ATK and -1 spatk every turn I use discharge

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Barry has 50% chance to speed drop with every bubblebeam

twilit chasm
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blue cant debuff defensive stat?

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that's the major issue

twilit chasm
# verbal verge Unless you have a better idea

the better idea is always not spending anything (or ~100-200 pts for more comfortable run) and clearing hard stage SophoKEK which actually gives you 500 points at least, meaning more than spending more than 400 points for 4+ theme upgrades just to get back 750 points from the very hard stage

verbal verge
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Ye it's a 250 point tradeoff eh

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I've come this far tho CyrusSweat

twilit chasm
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anyway what's your theme exactly

verbal verge
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Electric

twilit chasm
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uhh so you really have no better damage dealer than that barry?

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i thought you brought him just for the theme

verbal verge
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Barry is good wdym

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I could use 3/5 Ash

twilit chasm
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there are way many better choices than him

verbal verge
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Lol

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Idk his nuke is so strong, and he debuffs too

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He seems good for all that

twilit chasm
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that so strong sounds like C tier to me

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in current standard i mean

verbal verge
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On type Barry vs offtype Ash, I think Barry wins out

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I could try Ash tho

twilit chasm
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i would rather pick another defensive debuffer

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a tech with strong debuff while also has great nuke works better than a striker

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...unless your bonus is strike/support

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Entei requires debuffing defensive a lot. So nc blue cant really help, and barry’s speed debuff is unneeded

fresh holly
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2 2.0 shown

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Maximize 👍

fresh holly
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Trainer move gone on red and leaf from prior rounds

prisma gyro
prisma gyro
kindred seal
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Get Ground type boost again. Open with the detestable Field/Sprint combo. There are no Field or Sprint Ground units. Buy Fairy type boost. Spend the only Field Fairy unit. Run into this combo again.

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What do I do here? Just literally get no points?

leaden wraith
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Just run a non matched Fairy or Ground type

kindred seal
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Oh I guess so. Then I can still match one of the roles with someone else

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Besides Volo/Togepi, are there any other Sprint/Field Fairy types, maybe from Role EX? Any for ground? I need to fill this critical gap considering I've gotten ground type three times already

sudden hull
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volo is tech exr

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only sprint field is greta

leaden wraith
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Ground: Rika has Field EX, V Giovanni is base Field pair
Fairy: SS Wally, SS Gladion and SS Nemona have Sprint EX

kindred seal
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Great, all the limited Fairy units I don't have

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SS Wally already in mix scout? If so, I may get him eventually

kindred seal
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I don't think I've done this battle before. Mandatory Stealth Rock setter, of which none are in the selected roles? Is this even winnable on Medium?

leaden wraith
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the gimmick of Darach is keeping at least a WTZ or a dmg field active on the field

kindred seal
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Oh so not just damage field

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Of course there's a kill screen too. Okay, so I can't do Very Hard. Maybe Hard though

mental raft
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If Rika had a field ExR unlocked, you would have more duration for ground zone and very hard should be possible.

You have 6x boost, it has to be doable! RosaThink

timid hound
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Kinda funky combination tho

verbal verge
verbal verge
elfin tendon
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Rally: You have 3 choices for Area 10, please consider carefully.
The "choices" in question:

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Excellent week with no lucky areas BlobAww

kindred seal
ebon valve
heavy fjord
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this was an interesting run. If i can almost get 10k with this run then idk

simple frost
ebon valve
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I got Electric Power later KEKW

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Oh and I'm stuck on Palmer LucasFLOOSHED

simple frost
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Ou youve got it

ebon valve
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I dun wanna buy another johto powerup

simple frost
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Hows a10shop looking?

ebon valve
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sp.atk and speed jelly, and free lollipop Doffylmao

simple frost
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Ooof

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Im assuming electric pow and johto at 1 each?

ebon valve
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I think I just need Diantha Tm MPR for more sync accel

simple frost
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Honestly. Palmer really needs like 2 or more power ups .-.

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Especially if you only go into a10 with only 1 theme boost

ebon valve
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yeah he does have a lotta hp

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damn it, even afterwards sides one shot me Rico_cry

simple frost
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almost there o-o;

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feelss like damage rolled

ebon valve
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I grabbed attack to the max 3 :3

bronze aspen
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TIL Anabel sucks when your bonus is neither tech nor support

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I can't use les grenouilles LarryDead

timid hound
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New role: Multi

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I wonder if Rally will now get an update

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Who's ready for Multi Sprint?!

leaden wraith
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according to the dev letter, Multi activates bonus on every role, but with slightly lower bonus

timid hound
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Oh...

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Eugh

leaden wraith
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that means a Multi pair can activate double bonus on Field Sprint stage, but with lower multiplier

timid hound
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Idk how I feel about that

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I guess that's good

leaden wraith
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middiversary

timid hound
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Mixed feelings so far all around

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I want them to do something with Rally tho

simple frost
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25% damage with sync nuke, -1 / -2 sync accel, 25% damage boosts, aoe sync... etc? o.o

leaden wraith
#

the only good things are EX Chatelaine and free Anni Lillie reskin

timid hound
#

Arc Suit? EX Cynthia did it first

fluid mountain
#

Glad at least saved both NC Serena and SST Red from A9 and A8 respectfully to A10 Anabel. The weather setter tho...

fluid mountain
#

Done, but did an oopsie that costs me 150 points, oh well

#

All stages done on VH. Gladly I got good pairs for the BCs on the way. On a bittersweet side, got Anabel UB at A10 with NC Serena and SST Red carried from the last 2 areas, but the main problem was the weather setter unit, which I decided to use a rare W thanks to the starting Ghost Upgrade: Base Acerola! And as a mistake, I spent 150 points on a Move: Stats Up, assuming would tank Anabel better, but that wasn't the case, so I spend on offensive items to beat her.

Items used:

  • 1 Ghost Upgrade (starting, rare Acerola W)
  • 3 Opp. Stats Down PU (150)
  • 1 Move: Stats Up (150, only for Anabel UB, and oops!)
  • 1 Sp. Attack Jelly (100, for Anabel UB)
timid hound
#

NCSerena last one standing, nice

simple frost
#

oh okay. o.o

#

what kind of bonus though?

#

oh the rrole bonus modifier. i see

oblique breach
#

Who I need vs Lucy

#

support and field

leaden wraith
#

How can we recommend options without knowing full context?

oblique breach
#

More coming soob

leaden wraith
#

At very least, give everyone poison immunity skill and debuff her speed

oblique breach
#

Should I use Hop or SS Blue vs Lucy

#

SS Blue I have Natural Remedy gridded on hin

leaden wraith
#

That won't be enough

#

You have DjGloria, she debuffs speed quickly

oblique breach
#

What should my ground options be

leaden wraith
#

Cynthia is the gauge friendly dmg dealer, while Ingo helps with sustain. Pick your poison

oblique breach
#

and make them resistant to it

twilit chasm
#

i finally have a lucky stage when my units are unworthy to invest PalmerPathetic

normal python
#

I got a lucky area, support/field, not bad since I have 2 of them

normal python
#

Eh sure

#

Would've been 9150 if it weren't for that lucky area

mild notch
#

New hs

dusk eagle
#

SS Morty, NC Blue, and SS Lyra all 3/5 exr should handle Argenta fine fight?

sudden hull
#

destroys

dusk eagle
#

Awesome! Thanks!

#

Finally get to use Lyra for this

sudden hull
#

just make sure not to sync with nc blue until 50%

#

to reapply rebuff

dusk eagle
#

Right

#

1 Kanto boost should be enough right?

sudden hull
#

probably

#

argenta is the second easiest rally ub

heavy fjord
#

Idk about that tbh, I find Palmer to be quite nerfed in Rally, while dealing with everything Argenta needs while dealing with Rally's restrictions is at least annoying

dusk eagle
#

Palmer is still annoying. Never beat it offtype

dusk eagle
daring peakBOT
#
Group Afflicter’s Advantage 1:

Raises the Attack, Defense, Sp. Atk, Sp. Def, and Speed of all allied sync pairs by 1 stat rank the first time the user's Pokémon uses a status move each battle.

Team Sunbathe 9:

Restores the HP of all allied sync pairs when the user uses a move while the weather is sunny.

Sync Damage Guard:

Applies the Damage Guard Next effect to the user the first time its sync move is used each battle.

Themes:

THEME_TYPE Fire | THEME_REGION Johto | THEME_TRAINERGROUP Gym Leader
THEME_FASHION Sygna Suit

sudden hull
#

try tanking with morty then i guess?

#

maybe you arent ramping defense fast enough?

dusk eagle
#

Really wanted ly a to get this done but I might have to bring SST Red in

#

Lyra's sync move drops it to like 70% but it takes ages with grassy glide to deal damage

sudden hull
#

and grid mind bracing infliction for morty

#

since this fight is 90% special

#

that should help

dusk eagle
#

I have a sniket not overwhelm set

#

But Morty is actually 2/5

#

Might 3/5 but that's when I get a support coin and if I choose him

#

Waiting on datamine before I upgrade some atuff

sudden hull
#

oh

dusk eagle
#

I either need to get that sync higher damage or I need to get grassy glide stronger

#

Just trying not to combine everything where it hits 50 and I don't get sun or rebuff up

#

Might try to find some Johto upgrades so he and Lyra boost

sudden hull
#

the problem is that argenta clears interference every time she attacks so its hard to get debuffs

#

since lyra relies on interference for that

dusk eagle
#

Yeah I'm think of just going with red instead

#

He's always clutch

sudden hull
#

might be easier

#

is it tech field for area 10

dusk eagle
#

Field support

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Meaning I'm keeping Morty in

#

Does she get stronger without terrain or weather too?

#

Cuz like second sync third total hydro pump deals insane damage

sudden hull
#

if she has rain she gets boosted attacks and damage reduction

sudden hull
dusk eagle
#

It's because I took vigilance off blue then

sudden hull
#

yeah if ur going past second sync which it sounds like you are vigilance is required on the main tank

dusk eagle
#

I swear sometimes 3 lucky skills isn't enough

#

See like some of these I get away with crit strike 2 and don't even need it. Now I do

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Had to give flameproof for I forget what

#

Hopefully it doesn't happen again

leaden wraith
#

Are both your Red and Lyra 3/5?

dusk eagle
#

Yes both exr

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Just not Morty. 2/5

leaden wraith
#

2/5 Morty is fine

#

Give everyone Vigilance

dusk eagle
#

Nkay

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I will if my current try faild

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Give it to her cuz Argentas third sync crushed Lyra

dusk eagle
#

Thanks guys

#

I'm convinced this game hates me and doesn't want me to get over 10k points My last 6 rallies:
1 with 8 strike
1 with 8 field
3 with 5 sets of roles repeating
1 with 8 support

obsidian sentinel
#

I wish I had one with 8 support! My last two weeks were 8 sprint and 8 field

mental raft
#

Flying Upgrade

leaden wraith
#

Flying is rough

mental raft
#

A low scoring seed

leaden wraith
#

wait Anni Lillie 2024 is a Sprint Field

urban ledge
#

Yep

mental raft
#

I think I should wait!

leaden wraith
#

(the cake is not given out for free)

urban ledge
#

Also Arcs count as every role but with less modifiers I think

leaden wraith
#

yes

urban ledge
#

We’ll see tomorrow how much lower they are haha

mental raft
#

1.2x is not that bad for sprint field!

#

Wait or it is?

leaden wraith
mental raft
#

It is bad! MortySigh

urban ledge
#

So they’ll count as 1,2 or 1,4?

austere cipher
#

behold XD

normal python
#

Dark upgrade with strike/field for A1 HilbertHmm

urban ledge
#

Not the worst combination but ugh still don’t like it

obsidian sentinel
#

Elite 4 upgrade and field sprint opener LarryDead

urban ledge
#

Btw I’m waiting until tomorrow for ASynthia haha

stark zinc
#

What if you
Got Kanto upgrade
But God said:
BAD SEED + ANABEL

quaint star
#

Guess I'm waiting for Wednesday to play Rally now that Lillie is sprintfield

urban ledge
#

Oh wait yeah Wednesday

mental raft
#

I stopped at a sprint field stage too

simple frost
#

i think i'll start mine once anni lillie drops o.o

leaden wraith
#

I don't like waiting because I'm broke af 💀

#

MPizza is funny against Darach

mental raft
#

Haven't used mpizza in a longgggg time, but can it replenish B moves too? I forgot!

#

Like Geeta's

leaden wraith
#

it can refresh any moves with MP

#

it's really op

simple frost
#

best chocolate pizza ever 😮

mental raft
#

I missed a Sinnoh Upgrade today considering the A10 role bonus, I hope I don't regret it! LanceShrug

half sonnet
#

What upgrade should I go for?

leaden wraith
#

imo Dark

bronze aspen
#

TIL there's a stage with 2 sprint field

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I thought the max was one

leaden wraith
#

There are seeds with 3 sprint field even

simple frost
urban ledge
quaint star
#

Well speaking of Springfield...

twilit chasm
#

Sollie will save u

quiet apex
#

Maybunny > EBurgh

quiet apex
#

It’s late and I got lazy. Had area 10 had a better combo I could have hit 10k.

eternal nebula
#

Still better than 7k points

simple frost
eternal nebula
#

More like, the more I invest, the more I get points

sudden hull
#

ugh im like hard stuck at 8k points

vocal spade
#

If I buy the same type upgrade multiple times, does it stack with the others?

simple frost
vocal spade
#

Okay, so the 2 fire theme boosts do work, and not just 1

simple frost
#

If the other theme boost is not present in your team, it will be inactive.

vocal spade
#

I'm about to empty out the shop then, I need the stats

simple frost
vocal spade
#

No, I just started, it's my first time doing this

#

I couldn't beat the first stage with my meh pairs until I switched to flying and ghost supports to use the theme buffs, then it was trivial

#

The second stage is water advantage but also sprint, and I have a grand total of 2 sprint pairs and 0 fields

simple frost
#

I dont suggest buying multiple theme boosts

urban ledge
#

1 more reset until I do this haha

#

Gotta remember to do it

mental raft
#

If you visit this channel you will remember! TabithaHehe

vernal vapor
#

im planning to use ss steven defense form to buff atk without mp, is there any other pair that could do it better?

leaden wraith
#

You cant use 2 different supports?

hasty marlin
#

Is Lenora good here?

#

Also figuring out what sort of third unit to bring into the fight. Using cinderace gloria probably for dps

mental raft
#

What are the role bonus, theme boost and available sync pairs?

hasty marlin
#

Ended up clearing with bp Olivia third by time got an answer. It was tech/support with like three mc boosts

vocal spade
#

TFW my 3x support team was having trouble on area 10 even with apple cup, outstanding

vocal spade
#

Suicune

simple frost
#

which supports? o.o

zealous plover
#

So I have Field/Sprint bonuses round 10 with Lucy as the ultimate challenge. I have 4 Sinnoh boosts and 2 Unova boosts. What can I do?

#

also do i need to slap antitoxin on everyone?

zealous plover
#

I'm thinking that maybe Volo would be helpful here but Fairy Zone would override Akari's Dark Zone and I would have to put Antitoxin on him too, and Unfortuitous 4 is pretty nice to have.

urban ledge
#

I usually slap Antitoxin on everyone when Lucy shows up and I don’t have status protection

#

But I have like a bajillion of those cookies lol

zealous plover
#

i mean same

sudden hull
#

archer and sst both have speed drops

zealous plover
#

yeah

#

Archer is a bit squishy though. Should I tank with someone else?

sudden hull
#

volo could work

mental raft
# vocal spade Suicune

Try replacing a support with some attacker having support ExR if you have someone left!

#

And if you have Hop use him, he can attack too

timid hound
#

Time to try Rally with Multi units

austere cipher
#

@simple frost gonna debut arc cynthia XD

simple frost
austere cipher
#

nowae

#

yea it's fine just ss

#

excited to try her bud XD

simple frost
#

ye

timid hound
#

same

simple frost
#

csmm first letsee

#

i'm still doing ticket scouts

#

like so

timid hound
#

First time I used yellow candy in this game

#

Today is a historic day

#

My prestige battle candy is finally gone AmePray

quaint star
#

So they literally throw in Multi on ALL stages now? Hot damn

timid hound
#

More like Multi can go into all stages

#

(albeit at a lower multiplier)

#

I guess the tradeoff makes sense but it does feel kinda lazy if I am being honest

simple frost
#

truth

mental raft
#

Arc (Multi) role!

timid hound
#

I hate how they slap arc into every single one

#

Feels forced

simple frost
#

yeah

#

should be x1.5 😦

mental raft
#

The seed is not so good for scoring!

A10 VH was Lucy but she was not doable so i moved down to Hard Palmer! Rei

#

This was the team I was using against Lucy!

urban ledge
#

Thinking of doing it now… but nah waiting until I get ArCynthia’s sync orbs

#

I’m stingy lol

leaden wraith
timid hound
#

It’s so clean

#

It’s the real arc suit

mental raft
#

I dont remember how I found it! SeleneLul

sudden hull
#

eufhaldjskfjelr

timid hound
#

Just brute force

#

It’s Area 1

vagrant oar
#

Wait

#

There are new stage combinations now?

timid hound
#

Nah

vagrant oar
#

Is there any resource that has all the new stage combinations

timid hound
#

They just slapped Multi on everything

vagrant oar
#

No like, even disregarding the Multi

timid hound
#

I don't think there were any new stuff added

vagrant oar
#

Shouldn't the only Sprint/Field Stage 1 lead to Sprint/Strike Stage 2?

timid hound
#

idk

#

I guess they did add new Rally stuff

#

I defs didn't see that on datamine overview

mental raft
vagrant oar
#

I guess my resource is outdated

mental raft
#

Check the pins for all possible seeds

vagrant oar
#

I had this saved

#

And it didn't show other possible combinations SucornDead

mental raft
#

Pins has a better one

vagrant oar
#

Oh it does

timid hound
#

No Rally updates?

leaden wraith
#

Good

#

Stay away from me, Nita and Leon UB

mental raft
vagrant oar
#

I'm pretty sure I got it from this channel, although granted it was a long time ago

#

I guess it got updated afterwards

simple frost
vagrant oar
simple frost
#

;<

vagrant oar
#

The pins have this which looks to be an updated version of what I had earlier

#

It just has one more seed which is the exact one I landed today

mental raft
#

Lol

#

Maybe it was added later

vagrant oar
#

I really hate Sprint/Field seeds though

#

Actually wait

#

Something is wrong with the pinned version

#

The bottom half with the possible sets are completely mismatched

#

Yeah okay I can kind of tell what happened, I definitely have an earlier version of the same thing

#

The later version rearranged the set numbers but didn't update the area matchings at the bottom

#

So now they point to the completely wrong sets

timid hound
#

Good thing I use PomaTools' very handy Battle Rally function

vagrant oar
#

I kind of liked the readability of this excel-like image

#

Which is why i had it saved

#

I want to see all possible seeds with that initial stage so I can see the likelihood of later role combinations

#

But with the pomatools one you kind of have to manually input everything stage by stage right?

#

Like if there's multiple seeds with the same initial stage, it'll have you keep entering the combinations of later stages instead of just showing you all seeds in one go

stoic citrus
#

Use this instead

#

They grouped the initial stage together so you can see the different paths

vagrant oar
#

Oh that's convenient

mental raft
vagrant oar
#

I'm not that hard-working

#

I appreciate the help though

vagrant oar
#

From what I can tell this seems fairly accurate and it's organized well to find the initial stage easily

simple frost
#

damnit. hmm

#

are there any strike/ex strike or sprints thaat can set zonee?

#

argh , aakari time ssigh

mental raft
#

Anni Lillie can

#

Steel zone

simple frost
#

she's 2/5 atm... hmm

mental raft
#

With her b move

#

Though you can use her in area 5 or 10 for more points!

simple frost
#

There we go

simple frost
#

are there any ice type with sprit/ield? ;-;

timid hound
#

No

#

The only one I can think of is Training Gladion with Field

#

But no ice type pair with sprintfield

simple frost
#

guesss i'll just take thee 750 L

#

oh wait

#

i do have an ice field

#

;o

#

coool

timid hound
#

When SSteven rolex 😭

simple frost
#

wt

#

ohhhh

#

i forgoot to give dc gladion a grid lmao

timid hound
simple frost
#

there we go 900 points o/

timid hound
#

ReiGOD

#

Funky team too

simple frost
#

nooooo it had to be a sandstorm stage

#

yeah its aaurorus

timid hound
#

WHAT THE FK

#

I-I kneel

simple frost
#

Ahahaha

#

ohko! (SS steven got flinched too. rofl)

#

Paris. ... area 9 is bertha. ;<

timid hound
#

What is your role bonus

simple frost
#

support/field

timid hound
#

aiya

simple frost
#

field sprint in the end

#

bertha ice weak

timid hound
#

Owhhhhhhh

simple frost
#

this rrun has been despair

timid hound
#

You got a2024 Lillie build up already?

simple frost
#

2/5 atm

timid hound
#

Villain lmao

simple frost
#

Sending them to hell lmao

timid hound
#

Your box so stacked

#

I mistook it for Alt Elio

simple frost
#

lol

#

hum

#

asn't too hard, justs get lucky with flinch lol

timid hound
#

Yeesh

simple frost
#

died too a smun+5 bmove by gardenia

#

lol

#

(i did ssync first)

#

okay letsee what kind of despair i a10

#

thorton

#

hm

#

ooh guard choco is available too

simple frost
timid hound
#

An ugly clear is a clear, and a beautiful wipe is a wipe!

simple frost
#

damnit

#

leono is too squishy

#

guard chocolat then

simple frost
#

i forgot, mix blue doesnt buff his atk on entry. lmaao

#

no wonder ii thought flare blitz was kinda.. potato damage

timid hound
leaden wraith
simple frost
timid hound
#

Very funky team too

#

A song of ice and fire

simple frost
#

didnt have any other physical ice types

#

i used dc glad too early i guess

#

alsso

#

i had multiple sandsstorm fights.

#

why the heck d;

#

i couldn't even use arc cynthia ;<

timid hound
simple frost
#

oh wells

#

better than last week at least

#

nothing too bad

timid hound
#

I like teams where you need to mix things that you wouldn't otherwise

#

The beauty of team building in PMEX

simple frost
#

ye

#

and just brute force power upgrades

timid hound
#

Haha yeah

simple frost
#

they hit harddeer? i hit harder ;D

rancid zodiac
#

I don't even remember how long ago I had 11k+ score, one lucky stage

hasty marlin
#

Choices? What are those?

urban ledge
#

Oof

hasty marlin
#

Who to use…

#

tms all used up for the two mfs in my party rn

#

full box, but my strike fields are used up

#

same with tech supports

#

(havent finished farming lillie event but plan to max invest her asap)

#

im thinkin ArCynthia might be my best bet even tho i lose a bit on points from using her...

#

bleh, just gonna do it and go next run

#

cant think of a higher scoring solution

hasty marlin
#

Stage… one.

hasty marlin
#

didnt wanna use my actual sprint strike units till a6

simple frost
hasty marlin
#

dont own ssmorty, nope

hasty marlin
simple frost
#

ArcCynthia + ss serena i guess

#

Ss serena has sand shelter.

hasty marlin
#

zerena this early feels wasteful, same with arccyn when a10 is sprintfield

simple frost
#

Err against the argenta battle

#

But eh youre in next rally

hasty marlin
#

yeah i ended up using arccyn + sst red

#

for the argenta

hasty marlin
#

Why do I struggle on this even when it’s my first stage of the run oml I hate Roark

#

what even…?

tired wagon
#

what are some supports i can use for the rally?

leaden wraith
#

It depends on the stages and theme boosts you have

tired wagon
#

sometjing like this goos?

tired wagon
leaden wraith
#

To maximize point gain, you have to change pairs between stages often

tired wagon
#

wait u can change

#

huh

#

im so confused

leaden wraith
#

I meant you have to replace your team with a new one to adapt to match the bonus roles of each stage

tired wagon
#

i thought u had to stick w one team

leaden wraith
#

For example, you want to retire NC Marnie if the next stage is Tech Sprint, because she doesn't match with any roles

leaden wraith
#

Have you looked into the pins?

#

They should have explanation on playing this gamemode properly

tired wagon
#

oh shoot

#

when it said removing a pair removed them i thought it meant only one tram

#

ok thats nice

#

its only level 10 so i can just use some trash pair and be fine right?

leaden wraith
#

You encountered the lucky stage area?

tired wagon
#

nope this is just the beginning

#

if the rslly

leaden wraith
#

Where is the lvl 10 part? I'm confused

tired wagon
leaden wraith
#

Okay, first of all, do not touch Normal difficulty at all cost

#

It gives very little points

#

With 2 or 3 good theme boosts, you can clear Very Hard comfortably most of time

tired wagon
#

oh i didnt see the difficulty thing

#

can i use 10 dif teams to clear the rally? bc if so it shiuldnt be too hard

#

i have way too many dos

leaden wraith
#

Only drop to Hard if you can't beat VH or buying items to beat VH gives less points than beating H

leaden wraith
tired wagon
#

ohhhh

leaden wraith
#

Make sure all your team members match with each round's role bonuses

tired wagon
#

do u have to match this for every stage at all costs?

leaden wraith
#

The pins have every resource you need to understand the mode, once again

leaden wraith
tired wagon
leaden wraith
#

To know which theme boost is good. Look at your roster to see if the theme has a wide variety of pair and/or it covers your Field Sprint pairs

leaden wraith
#

Check the point calculating chart for details

tired wagon
#

i have a total

#

of 2 field units

rapid otter
#

How do Multi units work in battle rally?

tired wagon
#

and one arc unit

leaden wraith
leaden wraith
# tired wagon of 2 field units

You will get more of them eventually. The #1255888121648644197 exchange shop has variety of accessible Field and Sprint units

rapid otter
#

At the cost of activating what?

tired wagon
#

wait r there any bp field units

leaden wraith
# rapid otter At the cost of activating what?

It always gives you 1.2x boost to rally points, and 1.7x total if the Arc Suit is caked and there is a stage with that AS's EX Role. For example caked Arc Suit Cynthia has 1.7x boost total if you bring her to any stage with Strike bonus

leaden wraith
tired wagon
#

bruh

#

i ran iut then

lost cliff
#

we love crit upgrade

tired wagon
#

whats the move that resets opponent buffs

leaden wraith
#

Haze/Snatch

tired wagon
#

thanks

quiet tiger
#

I do NOT like Multi being present here RaihanBoi

urban ledge
#

WHAT THE

#

Oh wait nevermind lol

tired wagon
#

how the fuck am i supposed to beat this?

urban ledge
#

Who are you fighting?

lost cliff
#

looks like darach?

tired wagon
leaden wraith
#

first and foremost, your comp lack a Dark type

lost cliff
#

yea

tired wagon
#

i dont have any more good dark types

leaden wraith
#

that's the problem

#

did you keep checking the shop every round?

tired wagon
#

no

#

i thought those meant u lost pts at the end

leaden wraith
#

no

#

if you don't buy anything, you lose nothing

#

but purchasing good themes is a good investment

#

the pins literally taught you about that

tired wagon
#

og

#

well i bought one item so far and it was for this stage

#

im assuming ur supposed to use beryha here right?

leaden wraith
#

again, i highly recommend giving the pins and #1232035765954019338 a careful read if you want to maximize the point gain

leaden wraith
tired wagon
#

should i just do hard then

leaden wraith
#

you either have to step down to Hard difficulty, if you can't beat H, you have no choice but use Apple Cup to beat VH (but it will kill your point gain)

tired wagon
#

id there any free unit with mpr on hail

leaden wraith
#

there is Candice

tired wagon
#

if i get that i basically win

tired wagon
leaden wraith
#

the base one

tired wagon
#

i dont see mpt

leaden wraith
#

i don't think you can win unless you have like 3 - 4 Dark upgrade with a Dark type in the same team and answer Darach's gimmicks properly

tired wagon
#

mpr

#

i brought a dark thpe

#

umbreon

#

instead of brendan

leaden wraith
#

Hail MPR2 is located on the lower left quadrant

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btw which item did you buy?

tired wagon
tired wagon
leaden wraith
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you are checking the wrong Candice

leaden wraith
tired wagon
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oh ehoops lol

tired wagon
leaden wraith
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debuffs don't help much due to opponents' mitigation in general, and in VH all of them receive 100% stat buffs

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i don't see any chance of beating VH here

tired wagon
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wait wtf he cleanses his rebuff

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thats so dumb

tired wagon
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i have 5.8k pts

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can i just clear normal and call it a day

leaden wraith
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do not touch Normal at all cost, remember?

tired wagon
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wouldnt applr cup cost more

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esp since i can only use 2/3 of the multipliers

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bc i dont have another arc unit

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ig i could try using nemona and not red

leaden wraith
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this is your first Rally run, just get it done rn

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i don't think Nemona works either

tired wagon
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lmao alr

leaden wraith
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given how bad your upgrades are

tired wagon
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could i beat vh w apple cup

leaden wraith
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yes, ofc

tired wagon
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alr thanks for the help

leaden wraith
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it's a solid start, keep it up

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for future runs i hope you can apply what you have learnt to improve your scores

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if you have some rally passes left better use them before the monthly reset

tired wagon
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yea i will lol and thanks

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also when u said pins i thought u meant the pins in this channrl

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not thay other channel

leaden wraith
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yes, ofc

tired wagon
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ill actually read them now lol

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What's the BR bonus from arc pairs' multi role? 1.2 or 1.3?

leaden wraith
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1.2

prisma gyro
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Hmm that's quite a bit lower. So the best strategy is still matching full role bonus.

leaden wraith
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yup

tired wagon
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if the arc thing is a bonus in every battle, would it be smarter to save the unit for a future battle to get more pts?

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i only can use cynthia twice unless i get one of the other sandstorm setters

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sk would it be smarter to save her for later since shes a strong unit

leaden wraith
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if you want to maximize points, spend double bonus units on their corresponding areas, like using NC Red (Strike+Tech EXR) on Strike/Tech area no matter which round it is

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altho if there are two Strike/Tech area in the same seed, save the stronger unit(s) for the later one

tired wagon
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can u explain wtf this means pls

leaden wraith
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basically whenever you start a battle really run, you get a randomized 'seed' from known pool

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each seed consists of 10 areas with double roles + Multi roles

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the chart below shows every known seed

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+pomatools Battle Rally menu helps you determine which seed you got, but do know that some seeds require roles of Area 2 or even 3 to be known to reveal the whole seed

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tired wagon
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ok thanks

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isnt the pool dif now tho

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with the multi thing

leaden wraith
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no, Multi does not change anything

leaden wraith