#Battle Rally

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timid hound
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The math didn't math

simple frost
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Currently sitting on 1 Tech Cake + 1 Field Cake, and like 4-5 omni cakes.

timid hound
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Waiting to cake anabel so I can normal zone

leaden wraith
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Watch he gets sprint

heavy fjord
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I have like 3 or 4 exrs I can give rn

timid hound
prisma gyro
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Bro did the maths

timid hound
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Still have 0 clue why ss wally got sprint

simple frost
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for sheningans.

timid hound
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Devs cooked too hard

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timid hound
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At least I have A tech sprint ig

leaden wraith
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-6 sync cd is funny tho

timid hound
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No CElesa or SSMay

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Huh

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Wait what

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He has adrenaline?

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HUH

leaden wraith
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He has Head Start 2 upon mega

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Give him Adr1 and watch he sprints to victory

simple frost
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madness

heavy fjord
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You can skip two full turns with his ex role

timid hound
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Oh

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Yeah I don't recall him having adr

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So you need to LS it

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Just qq

heavy fjord
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Yeah you need LS Adr1 but like

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Thats so worth it

timid hound
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It's worth if you can't qq

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Absolutely

heavy fjord
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You need both

timid hound
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Huhh

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Why both

crisp token
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9-6=3

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You still need 3 moves

timid hound
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-3 sprint -2 hs2 -1 adr1

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-6

leaden wraith
heavy fjord
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When you mega
-2 from HS2
-3 from sync
-1 from Adr1
-3 if you quadqueue successfully

timid hound
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Oh wait you right

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My math didn't math

heavy fjord
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Thats how you get to 9

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timid hound
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Just run with sync CD reduc support

leaden wraith
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But i already used their sync accel moves in the first sync cycle

timid hound
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Just luck mpr

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This game is a luck check

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Luck is a skill

leaden wraith
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And i have skill issue

timid hound
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Remember when we had to manually unlock skills

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And I didn't have the materials to do it

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Now that, my friend, is skill issue

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leaden wraith
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More like finance issue buddy

crisp token
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They gave them out like candy

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Well not the in game candy

timid hound
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I don't remember

crisp token
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But like candy candy

timid hound
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I only remember glimmers of light and regret

leaden wraith
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sounds like a movie's name

timid hound
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It is a line from a movie yes

prisma gyro
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Glimmers of light and regret goes really hard ngl

timid hound
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Madoka Magica

fluid mountain
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Thanks NC Serena for having support EX role!

All stages done on VH. Pretty chill run, with A2 to A9 being CS battles, until Anabel UB appeared on A10. Even with 3 Opp. Stat Down Power Up, I bought a Severe Sundae to get the max power on NC Serena sync nuke right at the start, and also for survive the Anabel's sync nuke.

Items used:

  • Ice Upgrade (start)
  • 3 Opp. Stat Down Power Up (150)
  • 1 Severe Sundae (100, for A10 VH)
crisp token
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Grats! That's a very good score

simple frost
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having CS battles aon the way up is great~

timid hound
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Excellent work

fluid mountain
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Thanks everyone MallowHeart

slow dirge
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Ok so... I'mma try a proper one of these now. How much do y'all normally spend?

leaden wraith
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100 - 300 for me

slow dirge
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I have one of the C1 patterns if that affects

simple frost
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for me 300 to 500 for me o.o

slow dirge
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Is that the balanced ones or the tech loaded ones?

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Idk which C1 it is, only seeing first round and it's tech/supp

leaden wraith
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depends on what roles are A2

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you need to clear A1 first

slow dirge
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Ok

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... Nvm idk if I can do this one, it's Hoenn upgrade.

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Better hope a better one comes up later

slow dirge
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It's not awful to bounce from your initial buff right?

leaden wraith
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not at all

slow dirge
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Good

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Hoenn is tolerable short term but I can't go all the way with specially built teams and stick to Hoenn

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Too many bad pairs

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Which leads to my other issue

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Do I use my 2x hoenn pair (SS Steven) now or save it bc there's a 50% chance I have techsupp later? Or just bc I might need his DPS for later on a tech or supp stage?

leaden wraith
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if you want to maximize your points always try use double bonus pairs on 2x stages

slow dirge
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Ok. I'm just cautious about using all my 2x pairs immediately bc my 2x list for tech/supp is like, SS Steven, frogs and NC Leaf

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And I need to keep NC Serena in case of Anabel, and NC Leaf in general for UB

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So I can do a 6x but I probably shouldn't

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Though actually... I think if I just keep NC Leaf I should be able to do Anabel without NC Serena with rally buffs

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Thoughts?

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Gods it feels weird throwing three of your best pairs in round 1

leaden wraith
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what roles does A10 have?

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if the final area doesn't have Tech or Support role don't bother saving Leaf

slow dirge
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Idk

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I got tech/supp r1 so I have C1

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But there's like four ends

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And a 3/4 chance of tech or supp

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And tbh I genuinely might not be able to do it without her

leaden wraith
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that's why you should clear A1 asap

slow dirge
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I'll bank her and 6x this with the frogs and steven

leaden wraith
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if you get Support Field on A2, you have 2 paths

slow dirge
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Supp/field

leaden wraith
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well, one of them doesn't have support or tech on A10

slow dirge
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This is getting worse all the time

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Yeah but if I need her for debuffs, I need her for debuffs

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Even dropping, I struggle with the UBs

leaden wraith
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but support tech combo repeats again

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worst case scenario you moves down to H, it's not a big deal

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with good upgrades and leftover pairs you may have a good chance to beat VH

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keep checking shop every round

slow dirge
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Atm it's being a stingy bitch and only giving me Hoenn

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But I think for supp/field I'm gonna save one of my 2xers

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Simply bc I do not have many fields

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And I'd rather use one for a 1.5 later than 2x here and miss a bonus bc I got field/sprint or something

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Ok I got field/sprint

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That should be c1b' right?

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The strike/tech end?

leaden wraith
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yes

slow dirge
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Ok good

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Might be winnable after all

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Well already dropping points

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No Hoenn field/sprints

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And this stage is a nightmare unboosted

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(steel weak anabel)

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Think the gimmick is status and physical, maybe atk downs too?

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This is gonna be awful

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Oh and I have to swap out rika bc she's half dead from last stage and might just die immediately

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At what point do I have to sod it and accept that I need to buy the Hoenn buffs?

leaden wraith
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that stage is bullshit, you need to debuff theit atk, deal physical dmg and inflict a status condition like paralysis

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if you don't want to plan to stick to Hoenn theme, it's not ideal to keep buying the boost

slow dirge
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I don't plan on it but if nothing comes up like it has been doing I'm going to need some for the UB

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And I need to figure a cut off point

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Bc I will need boosts, and while Hoenn isn't ideal, I'll take it if it's all it gives me.

prisma gyro
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Did you get this seed? It's the one i got this week.

slow dirge
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Yeah

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Round 3 is steel weak anabel.

prisma gyro
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🤝

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You got poppy?

slow dirge
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This is my sprint/field list.

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It is... Grim.

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Rika needs bouncing out too bc Weavile does just kill her first action

prisma gyro
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Well geeta can deal phys damage and debuff

slow dirge
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Not Atk

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Which is what needs debuffing

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I can bounce to SSAC bc sprint is the next two

prisma gyro
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Slap her cookie on and pray SabrinaPray

leaden wraith
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Rika, Geeta and Nemona can work, both Geeta and Nemona can help with flinch

prisma gyro
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Geeta can last 4 rounds too

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If she's caked

slow dirge
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I don't have geeta's cookie

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She's caked so yeah probably

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Geeta/SSAC and I'll leave SS Steven in there

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Bc middle doesn't have wise x2

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And I don't wanna waste good hoenns

prisma gyro
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Steven has disarm on grid

slow dirge
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There's no hoenn with field or sprint, so...

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Yeah but I don't have that grid I don't think, and I cba to go regrid him for this one fight

prisma gyro
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There's another sprintfield later

slow dirge
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And I will suffer there too

leaden wraith
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you can brute force this without Hoenn, but note that SS Steven is useful on A6

slow dirge
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Or hopefully have a better fething bonus to work with

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I used SS Steven on A1

leaden wraith
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ah

prisma gyro
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Mix red can debuff atk no?

slow dirge
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he was unlikely to make it all the way through to A6

leaden wraith
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yes he can

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you have plenty Field Sprint to work with

slow dirge
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You said to push 2x where possible so A1 was SS Steven/NC Serena/NC Calem

leaden wraith
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no worries about Mix Red being spent here

slow dirge
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Tbh one here, one later

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And I have NC Leaf on the back to help Geeta through the ending

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Well, through the UB

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Red can handle his own debuffs

prisma gyro
slow dirge
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Yeah. I kept NC Leaf back bc I figured I'll probably need her to make the UB doable

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Whatever the bonus roles were

prisma gyro
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Oh wait you're on a02? There are still 2 possible seeds

slow dirge
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A3 now

prisma gyro
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Oh so it's set

slow dirge
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A1 was tech/supp
A2 supp/field
A3 field/sprint

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It's c1b alt

prisma gyro
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Bottom one

slow dirge
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Yeah that pattern

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... Should I go Defense SS Steven to save SSA Cynthia's TM for next round?

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Steven is probably getting cycled for bonus next round anywsy

prisma gyro
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I'd use ssac right away and fish for mpr

slow dirge
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I don't think I have that tile, I'll check

prisma gyro
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If you need tanking right now

slow dirge
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Let's try it and see.

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Worst comes to worst, I retry

prisma gyro
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Ss dawn can also buff defs

slow dirge
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Yeah but I don't wanna tank all my supports and/or sprints this quick

prisma gyro
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You'll have to use some sprints now and some later anyway

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I wouldn't save all the sprint tanks and then only be able to use 1 later on

slow dirge
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Yeah it's an awkward balance

prisma gyro
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Does ssac have her mpr? If so she can last from a6 to a9

slow dirge
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It's more not burning all my good sprints now and being stuck with shite later

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Bc I have this pairing again in round 8

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Which I am saving SS Morty for the round before at least

prisma gyro
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Ssac is easier to fish for mpr since it's just a single move to max out both defs

slow dirge
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I'd have to regrid her for that

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I didn't get it bc I don't use her outside of like, Fighting CSMM

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And you don't need MPR for it outside of rally

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... Just realised this team has no status

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Looks like Geeta is in after all

leaden wraith
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SSA Cynthia can handle that, with Numbing Blow

slow dirge
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Again, regrid

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... Maybe I should just regrid her

leaden wraith
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i don't see it as an issue

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you are given 4 presets to work with

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also, it's still better try bringing 3 Field/Sprint pairs instead of using SS Steven

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it's only R3 and you can take advantage of flinch to stall

prisma gyro
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You can have 4 grids saved for different uses

slow dirge
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Yeah I'm just lazy and this new grid is whack

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TM MPR, gobsmack/numbing, both potion MPRs

prisma gyro
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For BR i usually take mpr for tm and potion on ssac

slow dirge
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It's a bit niche, but hey ho

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I'll stick Nemona in for some more output

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She'll probably stick to round 4 anyway

leaden wraith
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get her Staggering tile, it will come handy

simple frost
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dang its a 3/5 grid.

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honestly i've used Nemona twice or thrice depending on spread of sprints in a run.

leaden wraith
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looking for who asked

slow dirge
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I have 3/5 nemona

leaden wraith
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yes, that's why i suggested Staggering

slow dirge
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Ok Nemona now has a paraflinch grid

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Need to remember to switch back after

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She was on sync nuke before

simple frost
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how's her DPS / Nuke at 3/5 though? o.o

slow dirge
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That stage fucking sucks

slow dirge
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Haymaker/Static Shock kinda redeems it

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Plus you get a second shot of the buddy move after your first sync

simple frost
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her innate Inertia is nice 😮

slow dirge
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Which really does make up the losses

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Yeah she has a few sync multis

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Static Shock is the most awkward one bc you can't always grid for HE9 on tpunch

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So she might need support getting the status up

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But she's fine syncing first bc you can go ex speed+, tpunch, buddy, sync, buddy

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And the sprint keeps you ticking for an AoE to mop up

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Like she's not obscene but she's a solid unit

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Anyway, finally through that shitshow

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And it gutted these two, I might need to replace two if not all three

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gives me another upgrade option finally
Ice.

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-_-

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I see you game

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You thrice begotten womble botherer

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... I don't even remember this stage but I think it's villa

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So hopefully free

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Oh no, acute senses 8

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Fuck me running

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Welp, strike bonus so lodge calem gets a run

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Super Interference 4 Psybeam should help clear the stage up

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Ok no it didn't

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Back to the drawing board

leaden wraith
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who is the middle opponent?

simple frost
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is it an ace trainer? o.o

prisma gyro
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If you still have ssac she can confuse

slow dirge
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Middle is some generic with a Tyrantrum

simple frost
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SC Steven BC. yikes.

slow dirge
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Steel weak, acute 8

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Also def crush I think

leaden wraith
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SSA Cynthia is the perfect tank

slow dirge
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I'm gonna pull Solgaleo in I think.

prisma gyro
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I hate that dinosaur. It hits like a truck

leaden wraith
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grid her with gosmack and Impervious

slow dirge
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SSAC is half health with 1 potion and no TM.

leaden wraith
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Solgaleo is a good pick yes

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should have resetted for TM MPR back then, that's what fungi meant when they suggested gridding TM MPR

slow dirge
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I didn't notice it didn't pop, and I was sick to shit of anabel so I was glad most of it had worked for once.

leaden wraith
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at least she still has Initial Guard

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you just increased the difficulty of this battle

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please be mindful next time

slow dirge
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Yeah this went to hell

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Cynthia can't tank it

prisma gyro
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I usually press ssac's tm first thing, and if it doesn't refresh then i reset

slow dirge
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Nobody can do any damage even if she lands the confuse

leaden wraith
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what team are you trying to do rn?

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Cynthia, Solgaleo and...?

slow dirge
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Lodge Calem/Solgaleo/SSAC

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Calem is burn fishing

leaden wraith
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no Hoenn pair, that's why

slow dirge
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Yeah, I have no good ones

leaden wraith
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no point of fishing for burn either

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you should still try to slot one, even Norman works

slow dirge
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I can scrape out brendan maybe but

leaden wraith
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just use a Hoennian

slow dirge
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Feth it, hoenn boost is on sale, I'll grab another

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Guess I'm committing 50 to this shitshow

leaden wraith
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50 is not that much, and 2 Hoenn boosts will help you fighting against later rounds while finding better boosts

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not a wasted investment at all

muted sparrow
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50 for double stats -> triple stats is a very price

slow dirge
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It's the first I've spent lmao

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I did anabel with no boost active

prisma gyro
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What's your hoenn roster like? Anyone decent aside from ss steven?

slow dirge
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Steel weak anabel not entei but still a crap stage

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Not really

prisma gyro
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Try to always activate at least one boost. BR is brutal without it.

slow dirge
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And the usable ones on bonus are gauge hogs

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Just like solgaleo is

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And SSAC is a crap gauge support

leaden wraith
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i assume you used both of her B Move

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Solgaleo can be gridded with TM BOGO and Sync Freebie

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grid Brendan with Amped Up so he slowly carries the gauge

slow dirge
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I have 1 b move left

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And I'm going NY Lisia, she gives herself speed at least.

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Just gonna pray that Lucy isn't the finale

prisma gyro
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Noland can spam fury cutter for free with mgr 9

muted sparrow
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You can try noland here

prisma gyro
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Can flinch and debuff def too

muted sparrow
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He has 1 gauge move, def debuff

leaden wraith
slow dirge
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Scraped it

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I haven't given anyone antitoxin, the cookies are somewhere

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But I also couldn't do her UB anyway

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Argenta, Thorton and Darach are the ones I've done

leaden wraith
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it's different in UB, you have upgrades to help you out

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*BR

slow dirge
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Thorton was easy though so I hope it's him again

leaden wraith
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you should not be negative like that

prisma gyro
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Worst case scenario, apple cup

leaden wraith
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or go to H

slow dirge
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Apple cup is not getting me through triple anabel

leaden wraith
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Tech role still allows you to bring a rain setter

slow dirge
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Yeah but only like, winona

prisma gyro
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Eggmons

slow dirge
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And I'd need mpr probably

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Again, still probably need mpr

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And Winona gives the hoenn buff at least

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My real issue is I don't have any supports with strike or tech left.

simple frost
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dont think she has MP Refresh for Rain Dance.. but can bring the rain on sync.

slow dirge
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Yesh she doesn't

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Which is the problem

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But ah well

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Onto my main issue

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I have one support/tech, I used him r1

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And no supp/strike

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So... To the upgrades screen

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... Wow this is a grim options pool

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Proton, Penny and Elaine

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All 1/5

leaden wraith
slow dirge
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If it comes to it fair

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I'm hoping I don't get the triple anabel that would force that

leaden wraith
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Besides with good pairs you only need some upgrades to pull it off

slow dirge
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So... Yeah. I need to scrape in some more EXRs for these supports

leaden wraith
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I think you used May already? If not save her for potential Anabel jumpscare

slow dirge
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May is spare

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My issue is my support listings

prisma gyro
slow dirge
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Lucy would not be lucky

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I do not do well vs lucy

leaden wraith
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You won't enjoy this game if you keep pessimistic attitude like this. Just saying, not try to be rude

slow dirge
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Anyway, supports. SS Dawn can carry the next sprint/strike and I hope SS Morty can carry the fields, so it's just the strike/techs and tech/supp I struggle with

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Ik

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Pessimism is my default sadly

leaden wraith
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Doesn't mean you lose all your hope

slow dirge
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But anyway. I think I might need to EXR all three of these folks

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Idk if Penny can do 2 stages

leaden wraith
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If you can beat way harder UB it means beating Lucy is cakewalk

slow dirge
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And I probably want Elaine for the UB

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They tend to drag and that's her forte

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Fuck

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1 cake coin short of Penny's

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If I come back on Sunday I can have Penny's EXR.

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Fuck.

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Cba to wait, I'll get hers for next week

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I'll just have to forfeit a 2x

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And hope I can make do with Proton next round

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... Which stage was rock weak Leon

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Was this galar NC

leaden wraith
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Yes

slow dirge
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Oh fuck.

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What were the gimmicks again

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Were there any

slow dirge
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Nice

simple frost
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(Also, ET too lmao)

slow dirge
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Also should I use my 2x here or on UB? The 2x is ALillie.

normal python
simple frost
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NC Blue gaming? NC Blue gaming.

slow dirge
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Here is NC Galar Leon fight, idk the gimmicks.

normal python
leaden wraith
simple frost
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i think Opp DEF Down Power is much more manageable, but up to you.

normal python
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I mean, I can buy all 3

simple frost
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oh that is true. but i think one type of power is enough

slow dirge
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Ok so... He's debuffing my speed and buffing his spdef every attack?

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Sounds manageable

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To hell we go

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... Fuck me that was rough

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Why did I get the worst layup on the day I decide to do rally properly

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Steel weak penny? The fuck stage was thi?

simple frost
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uh

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Grass weak sides?

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If so, thata should be Elaine's BC.

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Basically, you need to inflict negative status change (Flinch/Confusion/or w/e) and have Impervious units.

slow dirge
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Looks it

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... Impervious is a problem

simple frost
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what's your role bonus?

slow dirge
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Tech/supp

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Elaine is my only 2x but if I use her here, I have no bonus support for r10

simple frost
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I think you'd want to use her here, its made for her.

slow dirge
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But it's a 2x and her stage, yeah

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Fair, and it gives me leeway on the UB

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Probably just have to sod it and drop some bonus

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R10 is strike/tech and elaine is my last one with bonus

simple frost
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If you still have access to Flannery, she's Hoenn + has Impervious.

slow dirge
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Unless I wait till Sunday and use Penny

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Bc 2 daily tickets and I can get the last roll cake coin for her

prisma gyro
slow dirge
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Fair

leaden wraith
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Just saying that some tech is capable of tanking really well

slow dirge
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I was gonna do Penny last, Proton here and then Elaine UB

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But miscounted currencies

leaden wraith
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Especially with some stacked upgrades

slow dirge
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Flannery might be able to but I'd need potions somewhere

leaden wraith
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Elaine is the healer

slow dirge
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I think I'll be better off bringing out Elaine here yeah

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And just go for it

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Does everyone need impervious or just the hit taker

simple frost
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the sides do Haze

leaden wraith
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Defeat or stun the sides first

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They will erase every positive stats on every allied pair when you allow them to sneak Haze

slow dirge
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Ok

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How often do they try that

simple frost
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a lot. .-.

leaden wraith
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From my observations, they use haze whenever they have the chance to move

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As long as your side has at least a positive buff

slow dirge
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Ok that's gonna be awkward

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I have no good AoEs

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Ok wait, maybe lodge volkner?

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Hope between flinches, confuse and para that they can't do shit

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I don't have enough Impervious to do anything

leaden wraith
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Tech role means you can bring a sleeper or flinch bot

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That's way morr reliable than your strat

slow dirge
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Ok nvm

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Forgot I had SS Serena.

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Her exr coming in handy for once

simple frost
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she only gets impervious after she syncs.

leaden wraith
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Be aware that she only gains Impervious after transforming

slow dirge
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Yeah but I can hold her TM

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And she gets infinite crit off Elaine anyway

normal python
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Do we have a water unit that gives crit shield?

leaden wraith
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No but Variety Lyra has Team Rain Coat

normal python
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Yeah, useful against Palmer

slow dirge
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Phew, an easy round

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Ground-weak Bruno

leaden wraith
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You better focus on dmg tbh

slow dirge
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It's field or strike from here out, Geeta has damage till the UB

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And Morty has tanking

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My only thing is, can I do this one buffless

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Fairy weak Bruno

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Sprint/Field

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So I either cut a bonus or lose my buffs.

leaden wraith
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Resetting for MPR is always an option

slow dirge
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I meant without rally buffs

leaden wraith
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You havent got any boosts in the shop?

slow dirge
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No Hoenn sprint/field.

leaden wraith
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At this point not getting any theme is weird

slow dirge
#

I got Ice upgrade once

#

And then committed to Hoenn

#

It was on sale twice so I bought both and I haven't noticed any other upgrades, though I didn't look too close last round

#

I'm debating buying +4 speed to offset the gauge issues.

leaden wraith
#

It's not worth at all

#

With SS Morty you never worry about gauge

slow dirge
#

You do when you can't get sun up first round

muted sparrow
#

SS Morty’s gauge is one of the best gauge in the game

leaden wraith
#

TM is always available

slow dirge
#

Bc Geeta took the starting gauge

muted sparrow
#

Unless you use all Tm

slow dirge
#

I thought the mga was only in sun

leaden wraith
#

No

slow dirge
#

And otherwise it's just def/res/spd

leaden wraith
#

Even if he doesnt setup mga TM is still the best first choice anyway

muted sparrow
#

His Tm under sun just give + 1 crit

slow dirge
#

I don't use him much outside of fire

#

Normally my rally team is skyla, ss steven and whoever ticks the bonus box

#

And then I one team it like villa

#

But yeah back to this

#

Either I miss out on a multi

#

Or I miss out on my hoenn buffs

leaden wraith
#

Just click his TM and hope for MP

slow dirge
#

But it's a pisswalk of a stage so it might be doable

leaden wraith
#

R

normal python
slow dirge
#

Yeah no

#

Not doing that boostless

#

Geeta was barely chipping and then they wiped me on the sync

#

Oh fuck me running this run hates me

simple frost
slow dirge
#

Round 9, Sprint/Strike: NC Leaf.

normal python
simple frost
#

1 of each? hmm

#

NC Serena available?

normal python
#

Oh I've used her even before A6

leaden wraith
#

Show me your Water roster

#

For now it looks impossible to beat Palmer

normal python
#

And how do you think SS Kris and Eusine will fare?

#

My only two relevant water units for the fight

leaden wraith
#

Then rip

#

How about one time use items

#

If Guard Chocolate spawns you might have a chance

normal python
#

Double Countdown Gelato and Attack Jelly

leaden wraith
#

Move down to H difficulty then

normal python
#

Also Palmer

slow dirge
#

Oh ffs this game

#

You need weather for nc leaf fight?

simple frost
#

double palmer? hrm.

normal python
#

Hmmmmm, do I spend 300 points?

#

Actually, it's 200 excluding the water upgrade

#

Because I want Gloria for Defense Crush 9

slow dirge
#

Oh gods my weather options are grim too. It's BP Candice or Paulo.

simple frost
#

Dojo Gloria 3/5 ? 😮

normal python
#

As if

simple frost
#

i dont think you can drop their defenses fast enough with base Gloria.

slow dirge
#

Ok... Is Paulo any good at tanking?

normal python
#

Maybe I'll sacrifice Zerena then

leaden wraith
#

He is decent at it, but can you just bring a weather setter?

slow dirge
#

Or failing that is Lodge May capable of pulling solo DPS duties

leaden wraith
#

No need to stick to ontype

slow dirge
#

And it's NC Leaf

leaden wraith
#

Yeah mb i misread your statement

slow dirge
#

So ontype is... Not needed but my damage is all over the shop and I need a Hoenn somewhere

#

So I need lodge may, I need Paulo

#

And then if Paulo can't tank I'm locked into SS Dawn

#

If he can tank I might be able to keep Geeta

normal python
#

I'm uncertain if Ash will OHKO Palmer with his B Move

leaden wraith
#

With 3 Hoenn boosts and NC Leaf dpsing you shouldn't struggle with dmg

slow dirge
#

I'm not fielding her yet

#

NC Leaf is the stage I'm facing

normal python
#

Maybe if I replace Zerena for SS Kris I can

slow dirge
#

Her neo cs stage

simple frost
slow dirge
#

So I need weather off the bat and I doubt I can get away with halfassing any of this

leaden wraith
normal python
#

I wonder what's worth not getting among my power ups

slow dirge
#

Then I have to hope may/paulo can DPS it

normal python
#

I'm thinking of Defense Down: Power Up

leaden wraith
#

They can

simple frost
#

DEF Power up == dead in the water since you dont have def debuffer.

leaden wraith
#

Save May's TM for her sync

simple frost
#

Rebuff just means NC Blue is gonna be nice.

normal python
simple frost
#

that meaans, Ash's BMove willl hit hard.

normal python
#

And Blue has his -2 Def./Sp. Def. on sync

simple frost
#

(Assuming you managed to slap 2 Electric Rebuffs on Palmer)

slow dirge
#

Do I have room to double sprint/supp sync before may or will she need second?

leaden wraith
#

Yes

slow dirge
#

Yes to which

leaden wraith
#

If Dawn is 3/5 you get 2 support syncs in no time

slow dirge
#

Yeah she is

#

Fsr

normal python
#

Surprisingly, I almost got Palmer

#

Without buying any upgrades whatsoever

simple frost
#

with your current upgraes?

#

how much HP?

normal python
#

12% before he synced

simple frost
#

Rebuff Power then o/

normal python
#

And Ash had 0 SpMUN stacks too

simple frost
#

what team did you run with though?

normal python
#

NC Blue/Ash/Gloria

slow dirge
#

Ok this is awful, lodge may has no fething output

normal python
#

Ok I've done it even when Palmer synced

#

Totally worth the 150 points sacrifice

slow dirge
#

Well done

ebon valve
#

I now have Larry, so I can start BR this week.

slow dirge
#

Ye gods that was an arseclencher

#

May barely survived the sync

#

And then SDE5 Brine is a good cleanup tool

#

Anyway, now the real nightmare

#

Which UB is it

#

Oh ffs

#

It's Lucy

#

Guess I'm giving Courtney, SS Gio and Skyla antitoxin.

#

Actually to save the pain... Might scrounge for someone I'll use for the actual UB

leaden wraith
#

With 3 Hoenn boosts you dont need to bring Skyla whose role doesnt get matched with bonus roles

#

Replace SS Gio with a good tech and let NC Leaf tank

slow dirge
#

Oh right NC Leaf

#

I need to antitoxin her then

#

SS Gio is my only output here

#

It's only failing because there is zero gauge

#

But without SS Gio there's no damage

#

... This is problem.

#

Actually...

#

Do I drop 150 on the mg 2 on move

#

That should solve the gauge issue

#

And I don't have a better option for shoring up gauge

simple frost
#

if you buy that, you'd be better off just running Hard with 3 matching pairs.

slow dirge
#

I've spent 100 points all run.

#

And I'm already running triple 1.5s, it's strike/tech

#

So nobody has any fething gauge

#

Courtney is needed for the hoenn buffs
NC Leaf is debuffs and tank, though she tanks poorly

#

SS Gio is the damage source

simple frost
#

any other items in shop?

slow dirge
#

Not beneficial

#

Another hoenn up, mg 2 on move, apple cup (lmao)

#

... Or the double cooldown gelato

#

That might help

ebon valve
#

course it's one of four GeetaTired

prisma gyro
#

omg same

ebon valve
#

please don't be one of two middles

#

and don't be C1-a... cause that one only has tech+support once...

#

and it's... C1-b or C1-b' GeetaTired

slow dirge
#

It'll do

ebon valve
#

Dragon Upgrade and Perma-Dragon Zone. thinkies

prisma gyro
ebon valve
stark dawn
#

yeah good luck WEEZing

timid hound
#

idk what sages is cooking but you go king

#

who needs gauge when we have unlimited flinch works

ebon valve
#

darach has too much health

#

by the time I have 5 sync buffs he's still at 80% hp lol

stark dawn
#

imagine when we get nita

ebon valve
#

shop should offer area 10 counter SabrinaStraw

stark dawn
#

it's called the apple cup

ebon valve
#

even if I buy this double gelato, still lacking damage

#

:/

stark dawn
#

git gud

timid hound
#

What are your boosts Sage?

ebon valve
#

I've got Infinit Bug Zone wow

stark dawn
#

waw

ebon valve
#

Strike Field stage

timid hound
#

Oh dear

ebon valve
#

shop: Dragon Upgrade, Infinite Bug Zone, Countdown Ice Cream, Double Countdown Gelato

#

or I could bring in ncSilver and lose a double score bonus

timid hound
#

Who is your H?

ebon valve
#

H?

timid hound
#

Hard

ebon valve
#

also Darach

timid hound
#

Drop one of them for NCSilver and see how you fare

ebon valve
#

damn you BR, making swapping more point effective than shop items

timid hound
#

oh dear

ebon valve
#

gonna retry with DC9 selene

timid hound
#

Good luck king

daring tide
#

ground upgrade head in hands

slow dirge
#

could be worse, could be trial giver.

#

but yeah, oof

ebon valve
simple frost
#

4%
ooof.

rapid notch
#

That's kinda low

formal gull
#

A3 lucky stage Poger strike/tech too

#

free points

formal gull
timid hound
#

The 75 irks me but excellent work

simple frost
#

Prolly a half off power up

elfin tendon
#

Bouta get 9k even with all this spending damn

#

Currently on 8350

#

no lucky areas too

zealous plover
#

Struggling a bit against Anabell, I have 4 hoenn boosts

wary kayak
#

Got a damage multi?

#

Without one, I can see that team struggling

leaden wraith
fresh holly
#

Slipped and candied skyla instead of tornadus zzz had it on tech strike flying

#

Rip

#

I mean cake

timid hound
#

Another rolex for your roster

wary kayak
#

~~I mean that's still a tornadus isn't it ~~

#

It's the whole point of the Sync Pair Story and everything

leaden wraith
#

Well both Tornadus are Tech/Strike GladionSip

craggy helm
#

SON OF A—

simple frost
#

Damage'd Rolled. o_o;

oblique breach
#

This is NY Volkner, right?

leaden wraith
#

yes

oblique breach
#

well crypes

#

Any good NY Sabrina alts

leaden wraith
#

i assume one of roles is Support

#

Marley is a good pick

#

wait it is not

#

well you can cheese with flinch or sleep

oblique breach
#

ok

oblique breach
#

gym leader or facility foe

leaden wraith
#

for long run, neither

#

unless you got enough Field and Sprint with these theme skills

#

Gym Leader is the better theme between these 2

zealous plover
leaden wraith
#

Think about the point loss

zealous plover
#

before I commit to doing a hard stage instead, can I net more points by doing very hard with a different team with this roster?

#

like, maybe with NC Red replacing SST Red? I mean I'd still have to use May but would that give me more points than a hard stage with 3 on-role pairs?

leaden wraith
#

I assume A10 roles are strike and sprint? How about your theme boosts and upgrades?

#

Ah 4 Hoenn boosts

zealous plover
#

I also have 4 Trial Captain boosts

leaden wraith
#

Hmmm

#

TC doesn't help much

zealous plover
#

yeah

leaden wraith
#

Who is the H stage?

zealous plover
#

...Also Annabell

leaden wraith
#

Is any Sprint/Support of yours caked?

zealous plover
#

Yeah I included caked ones in the poma tools roster

zealous plover
leaden wraith
#

This is rough. I don't think Riley is enough to even beat H

#

Anabel is cruel

zealous plover
#

yeahhh

#

I was screwed over by RNG

leaden wraith
#

In this case i suggest tackling VH stage, with NC Blue, NC Red and May

#

Lodge Volo could be useful if you got Sinnoh boost

zealous plover
#

yeah looks like my best option. Thanks for helping me out.

#

I do have Lodge Volo but no Sinnoh boosts

leaden wraith
proven matrix
#

Palmer VH and Darach H, Support sprint

Am I cooked?

leaden wraith
#

No you are Arzen

#

But yeah you are cooked

bronze aspen
#

Another rally tomorrow but i already used up all my cake tickets 🫠

leaden wraith
#

You can start saving for next month

bronze aspen
#

But yeah

#

I buy a bit of sync orbs this and there to keep things exciting because you can't have too many sync orbs lul

leaden wraith
#

or just like me and exchange for feathers

bronze aspen
#

I don't use skill gears gakon

leaden wraith
simple frost
proven matrix
simple frost
#

Wut the. Why does H Darach have 400k hp

proven matrix
#

Because he's just like that

#

rock upgrade my behated

simple frost
#

Whose ur normal a10??

proven matrix
#

Palmer

#

skull emoji

leaden wraith
#

No point of clearing Normal

#

If H is not possible just apple cup VH

proven matrix
#

grrr

leaden wraith
#

Telling people to clear Normal is either trolling or stupid

proven matrix
#

Fine I'll try h

simple frost
#

Gl

proven matrix
#

guard chocolat is silly tho

#

but it can't bypass max

leaden wraith
#

It can

proven matrix
#

can it?

leaden wraith
#

The problem is dmg tho, but it's 3/5 Rei so you still have hop3

#

I would recommend trying H first

proven matrix
#

Fine

proven matrix
#

H was a little too easy

simple frost
#

Noice

proven matrix
#

could probably replace raihan with nc rosa for the 2.0x and it would be a little longer but the same outcome

#

Done

#

9750

#

always a little off 10k again

#

Sadge

timid hound
#

Next week for sure

lost surge
#

...should i go with SST Red all the way from stage 1 ?

#

Is it SST Red time to shine?

leaden wraith
#

you literally can but that limits your point gain if you have more than 3 of EXR combo like Strike Tech

lost surge
#

SST Red is Tech tho

leaden wraith
#

yes ik

lost surge
#

i'm not planning triple Strike+Tech. Let me check

leaden wraith
#

imo save SST Red for A10, and let your A1 - A9 teams be flexible

lost surge
#

I only have Lunala and Articuno for Strike+Tech but i'm saving Articuno for Stage 10 just in case

#

i never use SST Red for A10 tbh

leaden wraith
#

he is a great check to most UB

lost surge
#

like who?

leaden wraith
#

basically everyone

#

but he needs some help depending on each stage

#

NC Red is great too, but honestly with SST Red carrying idt saving him for A10 is a good idea

lost surge
#

I save Victini, Moltres, (Serena) Greninja, (Kris) Suicune, Keldeo, usually Articuno, usually (Cynthia) Lucario... and Diancie.
For the UBs.

leaden wraith
#

that's a long list and 2/3 of them don't have matching roles for A10

lost surge
#

Oh yes obviously Zapdos

leaden wraith
#

you are losing plenty of points

lost surge
leaden wraith
#

no i meant Field and Tech

#

and you are missing Grass

#

and Ground

lost surge
#

i don't care about A10 bonus, as long as i can beat it

leaden wraith
#

you do you then

lost surge
leaden wraith
#

just offering some advice on improvements

#

if you are totally fine with it, it's okay

lost surge
leaden wraith
#

no reason to ping me tho

lost surge
#

i forgot who's ground for A10

leaden wraith
#

Lucy

oblique breach
#

How did I ever clear VH Thornton

lost surge
#

oh right, that's easy off-type with anti-poison

oblique breach
#

2 attempts and slpw death

lost surge
#

Lucy ez clap

oblique breach
#

NC Leaf, SS Morty

#

And SS Red

#

The original

leaden wraith
#

what are your theme upgrades?

oblique breach
#

And for some moronic reason I can't search within forum posts on mobile

oblique breach
leaden wraith
#

Morty has Gym Leader

#

when did you get wiped out?

#

was it due to crit?

oblique breach
#

Couldn't get down to 60% in time

#

Should I get another upgrade

hexed crane
#

what's the team?

oblique breach
#

There's a Gym Leader boost on sale

leaden wraith
#

i would recommend doing so

#

remember to save SS Red's TM until he mega evolved

#

so he can get max atk for Haymaker to nuke Thorton to 60%

oblique breach
hexed crane
#

who many gym leader boosts do you have currently?

leaden wraith
#

2

hexed crane
#

yeah a third will make it easier

oblique breach
#

I can TM twice

hexed crane
#

I'm assuming rotation is morty then red then leaf for sync?

leaden wraith
#

ah with these team you don't need to worry about Red's sync nuke

hexed crane
#

no but you need the sync to unlock flare blitz

leaden wraith
#

grid him with Standfast 9 to make Flare Blizt usable

oblique breach
#

I'm going to sleep soon OK

leaden wraith
oblique breach
#

Gonna get 5950 points

#

Just 50 away from 6000

hexed crane
#

I know wasn't syaing it was needed

oblique breach
#

I don't like ending with nn50

lost surge
#

after thinking about it and checking my units,
imma save SST Red for the first stages and use him aroung A5+

hasty marlin
#

left or right frfr
anyway im finally getting around to doing my rally and stuff. so far it lead to supp field so

#

hoping its b' cause then i get to use cheren for a10

#

if its b then i gotta use two VERY gauge hungry units for points which is spooky

#

...oh god i just realized

#

both of these might lead to caitlin tanking an a10...

#

ice shauntal... i think i use my eggmon here.

cobalt furnace
#

Oof, no Supports with Strike EX? PrycePain

hasty marlin
#

ncblue, but ive got to fit a psychic in bc i already got 2 psychic boosts

#

im really hoping the striketech final so i can just save ss steven and use his defense mode if it turns out bad enough

#

b' seed

#

i think i go with rebuff = damage here...? RosaThink

#

cause prob ncred or ncblue +cheren+psychic finale

#

or do i just... save and hope for crit...

#

hmmmmm

#

rebuff i can do from a7 onward... a6 onward...

#

...i think i can do rebuff well enough.

#

...i just realized what battle this is.

#

uhhh

#

how the fuck am i gonna kill the bc for the toxtricities

#

time to update my tracker...

#

bonus: psychic x2, galar x1, rebuff x1
passives to answer apparently
Passive 1: Grassy Terrain Debut & Extension 5
Passive 2: Sentry Entry ×2
Passive 3: Healthy Advantage 8
Passive 4: Lessen Poison 7
Passive 5: Trained Mind 3
Passive 6: Lessen Paralysis 5
Passive 7: Team Pinpoint Entry 2
Passive 8: Brute Wits
Passive 9: Wise Entry 1
Passive 10: Smart Cookie
next stage: sprint strike

hasty marlin
#

ye

#

the toxtricity one

cobalt furnace
#

I feel like geeta’d still be your best choice, even with sentry entry x 2

#

Is this A3 or A6?

hasty marlin
#

so like geeta+victor+something?

#

its a3

#

the first sprintfield on the map

#

i tried nywallace + victor + riley randomly and i did like no dmg bc i didnt realize it was HA8 lol

cobalt furnace
#

Just a bit worried about not being able to use geeta from A7-9

wary kayak
#

Freebie upgrade: Grass
In shop: Rival upgrade, Any Status Condition multiplier

SSLeaf is the only meaningful grass pair I've used up so far (I used an eggmon for round 1 and then plowed through the next few without a grass pair at all)

Mix Red can carry me through the next two rounds, but I worry about being able to take down a UB with the Grass req. Also wondering if Any Status Condition is one of the good multipliers to pick up

#

(I have exactly one Tech+Sprint: Mayziken. Hoping she can hold out for all of the last three rounds)

daring tide
#

the first couple rounds of battle rally are actually the worst
youre worried about using up your best units too soon and end up failing over and over bc you refuse to use someone stronger

wary kayak
#

Depends on role spread. The Rally I just had, was Sprint Support Paradise. So my plan was to leave Neo Rosa and Aura Cynthia in the team until round 6. Only had to worry about one slot swapping in and out.

half bone
#

Alright, tech/support start with Hoenn boost. Advice?

#

Not sure if Hoenn is good enough for a whole run.

#

I don't think Battle Facility works well either though?

#

Skipped it, Rock boost now on offer. Take or skip? Because i think I'll need to use some sprint and field pairs soon...

#

Current lineup.

half bone
#

Anyone on?

simple frost
#

what's your potential line up of role bonuses?

#

if you get field/ssprint a03, you get another fieldd/sprint int A08. Thiss ends with Strike/Field on A010
Otherwise, you only get 1 field/sprint in A07. This one ends with Strike + Tech on A010

half bone
#

Pointed it out above. Still can't tell until 3.

#

I have two options for Sprint for Rock Boost, Paulo and NC Silver

simple frost
#

You get Strike/Sprint on A06 and A09 for the one with 1 field/Sprint on A07.
The other one Strike+Sprint on A09

#

so you can drag NC Silver from A09 to A010 if you dont get Sprint/Field on A03.
The one ith 2 Sprint/Field, you can drag NC Silver A08 onwards

half bone
#

I would be using it for role bonus, not max points. Either way, Rock good or is there better to look for?

simple frost
#

how's your hoenn roster for Sprint/Field?

half bone
#

0

simple frost
#

hrm if you're fine with Rock Upgrade, i think you're good for it. You could look for a better Upgrade. Up to you though.

half bone
#

I'll try for better.

#

Okay, thank God.

simple frost
#

hrm only 1 Sprint/Field

#

how about upgrades in shop?

half bone
#

Trial giver

simple frost
#

that bad 😭

half bone
#

Psychic upgrade now.

#

Worth?

simple frost
#

do you have any Sprint Psychics?

half bone
#

NC Rosa.

simple frost
#

huh you could theorethically drag her to A06 to A09 hrm

half bone
#

I would rather use something like Silver or Gladion

#

She wouldn't fit thr final battle anyway.

simple frost
#

how's your current useable exrs ?

half bone
simple frost
#

i suppose you can skip Psychic if you think you can get a better upgrade.
Up to you though.

half bone
#

I'll skip.

#

New shop has nothing good.

#

Okay, help getting though this one.

hasty marlin
#

so ive got geeta in the pocket for the later stages KukuiWOO

simple frost
half bone
#

Yeah

#

But healthy advantage.

simple frost
#

SST Red is available, tech/field too.

#

unless you want to save him for A010

hasty marlin
#

bonuses:

  • 2x Rebuff
  • 2x Psychic
  • 1x Galar (starter)
simple frost
#

NC Red or NC Cheren eh

hasty marlin
#

yea

simple frost
#

I think NC Red for A10

hasty marlin
#

both champs are 1/5 btw

simple frost
#

Oh. HRM.

hasty marlin
#

if i had one 3/5 id save it for a10 for sure but i dont and idt i can form a candy today to 1>3 either

simple frost
#

oh NC Zapdos for A010 couldd also wwork for the Rebuff Power.

hasty marlin
#

both also provide rebuff, and yea

#

if i need more than 1 rebuff i can use ncblue i imagine

simple frost
#

Up to you if you wanna doubledown for points on A05.

#

ah wait

#

I think NC Red'ss probably better for A010

#

i dont know too much about NC Cheren thou

half bone
#

Oh for God's sake, SRILL no good onrs.

#

Great, now I have to take a point dock because of this STUPID SHOP SETUP

simple frost
#

If you're struggling, just buy a Hoenn Upgrade, that thing will never ever change.

half bone
#

Now it offers me Kalos.

#

I swear to God, it's mocking me.

timid hound
#

Yeah fk Trina

half bone
simple frost
#

Kalos?

#

pretty bad, considering the role bonuses left.

half bone
#

I swear to God, this mode has me at wit's end eight now.

#

Struggling to get theough.

#

You've gotta be kidding me, THIS IS EXAXTLY WHY I DIDN'T WANT HOENN

#

Shop is trash tier again to top it off.

hasty marlin
#

...UM

half bone
#

What?

hasty marlin
#

i got the oops all anabel

half bone
#

At least you have usable boosts.

hasty marlin
#

bro my team gets her only to like 80%

#

im buying that sale guard choc

#

theres no way without it

half bone
#

I have no chance of pre-Syncing him.

hasty marlin
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HOW DO YOU ALMOST LOSE WITH FUCKING 4X STATS AND DAMAGE AND DAMAGE GUARD EVERY ACT

half bone
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Gonna have to go down to freaking hard and pray THAT boss doesn't screw me

hasty marlin
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anabels craaaaazy

hasty marlin
half bone
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With a ball and chain boost?

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And your best method of boost ing fighting type moves being killed by role boosts?

hasty marlin
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just offtype

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i have enough offtype nukes

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Anyways uhhh

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The game really wants me to use sinnoh next week.

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a region i barely pull for

simple frost
hasty marlin
half bone
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Any advice for Palmer with NO WAY TO BOOST UP?

hasty marlin
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pray ultra jelly is there

simple frost
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^

half bone
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...They're garbage.

hasty marlin
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whos your hard mode

simple frost
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VH Palmer, then whose Hard?

half bone
hasty marlin
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cause if ya dont got rei or someth then youre fucked for vh i bet

half bone
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I must remind you.

simple frost
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UHhhhh

half bone
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I cannot boost up.

hasty marlin
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argenta h isnt too bad, i beat her with gordie of all things on vh on like the first week

simple frost
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wwhat do you mean?

leaden wraith
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Do you have rebuff pairs usable?

simple frost
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you've got 3 Rebuff + 3 Hoenn

half bone
simple frost
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oh that was rhythm's

tidal valve
half bone
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I get that, I'm sorry, I'm just running out of time and this run has bee frustrating.

hasty marlin
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i was focused on my own run when you posted it cause like you i was finishing it last minute

simple frost
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Post your shop, and your A010 fight(s)

leaden wraith
half bone
leaden wraith
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Great, just bring a Hoenn

hasty marlin
half bone
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Nice to know this entire run just sucked...

hasty marlin
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oh wait strike field

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may wouldnt work

half bone
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Tech support starting roles is a freaking curse, I swear.

simple frost
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they have SS Morty too i think.