Battle Rally

[quaint star]

I spend 300 at most

[simple frost]

there we go

oh shoot 4hit combo dango hmm

[hybrid abyss]

jesus christ I'm halfway through the Rally shop's valuable stock

I regret not buying the powerups earlier when I had the chance

[formal gull]

Lmao I got the same seed as last week's

[simple frost]

nice

kewl

[bronze aspen]

Is palmer doable with frogs

[simple frost]

how much upgrades you've got?

cuz they do have a clear iirc

in #1009557516369281075

[bronze aspen]

I have champion x2

Also speed

[simple frost]

how much Speed? x3 iirc right?

[bronze aspen]

Interference (which is irrelevant)

[hybrid abyss]

Got B1 order, and was wondering if I should impulse cake someone, especially since I have 15 tech coins. The options for a tech cake are:

SSRed: He really doesn't need it...
Archie: TL;DR, debatable.
AnniLillie:
SSLysandre: no.

Lenora: Could work to add versatility for future runs..?

Volo:

[bronze aspen]

Just 2 lol

[simple frost]

what's your uh

Role Bonus?

ssupport?

[bronze aspen]

Tech and support!

That's why i saved the frogs for last

[simple frost]

outside of the frog(s), who else you've got?

[bronze aspen]

It would be nice if it was anabel but alas

I have also ssteven and velene for x2

[simple frost]

oh dark zone hmm.

[bronze aspen]

For notable supports i have ncrosa ss mina and bede

[simple frost]

tbh, you want damage/dps/nuke

he doesnt really do enough damage before he syncs so

[bronze aspen]

I found that palmer buffs everytime making cerena nuke weaker

[simple frost]

you should be fine.

3/5 NC Rosa?

[bronze aspen]

I'll try once more thanks

I should physical right

[bronze aspen]

Oui

[simple frost]

err NC Serena rather

[bronze aspen]

Yes as well

[simple frost]

what's the move level for Velene?

[bronze aspen]

3/5 i think?

Lemme check

Nvm just 1 haha

[simple frost]

but she has sup exr?

hrm tbh, i think NC Serena needs speed up immediately

[twilit chasm]

i wish i get palmer

[simple frost]

• her offensive stats

[twilit chasm]

cuz im sick of anabel

[simple frost]

to trigger the Speed Power x2

[bronze aspen]

Yup

[simple frost]

hrm yeah try it first, othewise, if you have NC Blue, should help with debuffing Palmer hard.

[bronze aspen]

The only kanto champion i have is red sadly

[simple frost]

oh. is he 3/5?

could work too, you need every body that can deal a lot of damage + max debuff for NC Serena's nuke

https://youtu.be/LyMQfIpPqdo @twilit chasm @hybrid abyss xD

[dense latch]

Second ever lucky stage 😍

[quaint star]

Noice. Sad about the Sprint tho

Oh wait nevermind

[dense latch]

Eh it's OK I got 2 at least

[simple frost]

sprint strike 😮

[twilit chasm]

you use cerena that early?

[simple frost]

probably doesnt have tech/support for A010 maybe? 😮

[quaint star]

Personally I have been doing that often since there's still NC Leaf

Hoarding pairs is also bad since you don't know what your area 10 is gonna be

[dense latch]

Well I got nc leaf. Adaman. NC red. NC Blue. All waiting in the back.😂tech strike a10

[viral loom]

Worth?

[simple frost]

i wouldn't buy it. 😮

[rapid notch]

Shit

[simple frost]

if you have tht Stat Up Upgrade

[simple frost]

ohh almost.

[rapid notch]

Lemme check the shop

[simple frost]

NC Serena team didn't work ? with SS Steven?

[rapid notch]

What

[simple frost]

Oh wait

[muted sparrow]

SS Wally will have cake tomorrow right ?

[simple frost]

i thought it waas Frost's fight

[muted sparrow]

[rapid notch]

Perfect

[simple frost]

sync with NC Rosa first -> NC Gladion -> SST Red -> SST Red for the finish kek

(if he's still alive before SST Red's 2nd nuke hrm)

[rapid notch]

Should I disregard gladion's first bmove

I'll only have -1 on palmer when it's used

[simple frost]

oh you could Sync with SST Red on the 2nd one, then Gladion's

sso you can drop his bmove after SST Red's 1st sync

[brisk holly]

can anyone access the revealer tool for me to see what my area bonuses are? for some reason, the poma tools have been taking years to load on my end and i can’t access anything. first area is tech + support bonus

[simple frost]

?

tech + support?

or support + tech?

@brisk holly cuz yeah

[brisk holly]

yeah, it’s like that for me 😭

[simple frost]

gonna have to ssee your seed i guess

[twilit chasm]

you need to beat 1 (or 2) more stage to see the pattern

[dense latch]

Who should I bring for Lucy 😂

Prob nc red and dahlia

[brisk holly]

area 2, support + field

[leaden wraith]

You got a rare seed that requires beating A3 to know the rest

[brisk holly]

oh wtf aight

[dense latch]

Can Lucy be flinched?

Haven't seen 1 flinch proc lol

[severe bronze]

no

the latest 4 ub are immune to stuns aka flinch sleep freeze

[dense latch]

Lameeee

Makes it so much harder lol

[simple frost]

you'll need to deal with their gimmicks aand have enough power / theme upgrades most of the time.

[dense latch]

What about burn

[severe bronze]

nc red + irida

just slap antitoxin

[dense latch]

No I need my 2.0

OK let me try anti...

[severe bronze]

dahlia

nc red dahlia

idk your boost though

[dense latch]

2 champion

[severe bronze]

any damage multiplier

the one with triangle icon

[simple frost]

what do you mean, burn?

I think Thorton and Darach are susceptible to it. i think Anabel is immune to burn.

[severe bronze]

just go with nc red dahlia nc blue

[rapid notch]

Nice

[simple frost]

noice

[hybrid abyss]

noice

[dense latch]

Pineapple 🍍 for the win

[simple frost]

MPizza?

[dense latch]

My first 10k😂

[hybrid abyss]

So:

[craggy helm]

Oh thank GOD

[normal python]

Wow

[quiet apex]

Well this won’t be fun.

[fair ember]

More weirdass teams

[plush anchor]

Shit seed i got

I need lucky stage for 9k

[simple frost]

Sleep sheninganss o/

managed to hit 9k without a lucky stage

got up to 10k but i bought a bunch

[plush anchor]

I usually manage without

But this seed

[simple frost]

how bad is it? D:

if its max sprint sheningans, time to dip into 600-750 points per fight 😭

[brisk holly]

oh you’re nuts

and the poma tools site still isn’t loading for me so idk if i have any sprint or field bonuses in the higher areas ☠️

[simple frost]

what' your A3?

[brisk holly]

strike + sprint

[brisk holly]

[simple frost]

A7 Field + Sprint eh

time to plan the rest of your sync pairs for A7 and above ;o

[brisk holly]

ah shit

[simple frost]

jeez, 3 areas with Support + Tech interesting.

i need more ssupport fields 😐

[brisk holly]

i don’t even know how i can plan 4 teams for these four areas

im still scared of area 10

[simple frost]

how much upgrade you've got?

[brisk holly]

i only have an alola upgrade

[simple frost]

you can always clear Hard if you only have the freebie upgrade.

[mental raft]

A10 is always a pain!

Have to switch to H lol! I think I will never be able to defeat Anabel! Worst gimmicks imo

[simple frost]

you tried anabel and got punched? ;-;

Support Sprint too. very rough 😭

[fair ember]

Yalls what is this level even

Diantha, sandstorm asking for attack debuff and physical moves

Not a CS stage too

[mental raft]

Yeah I mean her. I messed up with names!

[fair ember]

Oh wait

Its Pal Marnie and Pal Bea stage

Figures

[plush anchor]

Ggwp

I don't even know if I can do vh with one non-matching unit

[simple frost]

god, i've fought anabel a few times, but i needed a big chunk of boosts for it.

either Crit Power or like 10 Theme Upgrades sigh

[mental raft]

I think even Apple Cup can't compensate that much

[simple frost]

i think i did manage to kill her with like 1-2 theme upgradess + 7 Crit Power.

[plush anchor]

My course of action would be try with only 2 matching roles on vh

If that fails

[simple frost]

Hard time 😭

[plush anchor]

Try 3 matching roles on Hard

If that also fails

[simple frost]

these days i can hit 4 mtching roles everywhere i can

[plush anchor]

Apple time

Not with field-sprint

[simple frost]

like, i caan field 5 5x matching bonus now

need more Support Fields xD

[plush anchor]

Yes this is a no sprint+field set

I love those

Well on the brighter side

No matter what I do

I am getting my 9k

On the downside

How am i gonna do this

[simple frost]

if i ever get Sprint/Field

aagain, i'm only gonna get 8k for that week.

[plush anchor]

[simple frost]

tbh, for me, i usually buy like uh

Theme Boosts

so my maximum points per area is 1050

Unless i get a lucky area or something

[plush anchor]

I had 2 Sprint fields
Kalos theme is rough
No Kalos themed sprinters or fielders

[simple frost]

pain 😭

this week, i got Rival, and bought a stack of Unova upgrades

i thought Calem has Rival but got destroyed. ;-;

[plush anchor]

Rivals would've been so good
I have NC Silver, just stack a few of those and Annabel is piece of cake

[simple frost]

oh i dont have NC Silver sadly

[plush anchor]

Sadge
Let me go figure how i am beating that thing

[simple frost]

i think i'mma do Lysandre Sprint Role next month

so i'll finally get a Strike / Sprint pair.

on top of Riley

[brisk holly]

here we are

[quiet tiger]

I'm not scouting Mid Blue

[brisk holly]

and just know i am NOT facing against anabel again!

[plush anchor]

I plan to do him, but I focus on my hse roster first

[plush anchor]

Amazing roles though, got mix red?

[brisk holly]

no 🫠 im too poor for mix scouts

[plush anchor]

Sadge

He destroys + 2.0

[brisk holly]

i might go against darach

idk how to build a team for him though

[simple frost]

uh

Need Field Effects

[brisk holly]

yeah fuck

my only field pair is ny wallace ☠️

[plush anchor]

Man of culture

[leaden wraith]

Can you post your available field and strike roster?

[simple frost]

letsee if you've got something for Argenta first tbh

[brisk holly]

wait i don’t think i can use wally again, he died 💩

[simple frost]

what upgrades do you have?

[plush anchor]

So I 100% can't do annabel with 2 matching roles

Thorton
First half weak to physical second half weak to special?

[brisk holly]

still just the alola upgrade

should i check the rally shop?

[simple frost]

i suppose

[brisk holly]

hm

[simple frost]

i wouldn't buy anything 😦

let me check darach's stuff in Normal

153k HP hmm

I think Silver is your best bet for it. + NY Wallace if he's EXR'd

[brisk holly]

he’s…not 🫠

[simple frost]

he can set sun as long as he syncs, so you can keep damaging Darach.

[brisk holly]

alright, who can i put as my third pair?

[simple frost]

An Alolan Sync pair perhaps?

oh NY Wallace isn't EXR'd? hmm

[brisk holly]

yeah 💀 i can’t get those roll cake coins quickly

and here are my alolan sync pairs for reference

wtf whered elio go

oh well

[simple frost]

Elio is support so yeah

[ebon valve]

Plumeria can flinch

[brisk holly]

wait i can’t even use elio 😭 dammit

[simple frost]

i thought mosts UBs hve Antiflinch ;o

[ebon valve]

Not Darach

[simple frost]

can you display your EXRs?

[brisk holly]

i have none 🤕

[ebon valve]

But at level 90 she’s gonna croak

[simple frost]

oh dang.

Wait a sec, is that Ultra Jelly?

2nd line, last item

[brisk holly]

oh this thing? yeah

[simple frost]

HMMM

this is tough. I think you can clear with Darach with brute force 400% stat upgrade.

Anabel not sso much, but MAYBE Argenta if you had EX Selene hrm.

[brisk holly]

eek, darach is like my best go to rn

[simple frost]

yeah can't be helped

try using Silver, Plumeria for stun + a strike that can boost your team with Speed.

[brisk holly]

did i do the strike + raise speed filter right ☠️

[leaden wraith]

with Plumeria speed is not a problem

she is incredibly fast

[brisk holly]

i see

[leaden wraith]

you can bring a strike who can tank like Hugh

[brisk holly]

alright, any recommendations for the level? i don’t really trust the “recommended lvl 10” thing

[simple frost]

Try it first

they shouldn't be doing too much damage tbh

[ebon valve]

x4 is +300%. (I also originally thought it was 400%)

[leaden wraith]

level 100 is fine

[ebon valve]

Is this just Hard Darach or Very Hard?

[simple frost]

Normal o.o

[brisk holly]

wtf

that was actually easy as hell

[ebon valve]

I think on normal they have like 30 def

[brisk holly]

my hard was anabel 🤡 i was not about to go down that path again

[normal python]

And who's very hard?

[simple frost]

they had alola + if they bought the ultra jelly

[simple frost]

Argenta xD

[brisk holly]

argenta

[brisk holly]

WAIT i forgot to buy that LMAO

oops

[ebon valve]

Overkill, next time try the stage before buying stuff, there’s no penalty for failing

[simple frost]

you didnt need it tbh, only if you had trouble.

[brisk holly]

that settles it then, thanks for all the help :,)

[ebon valve]

[simple frost]

lots of strike 😮

[twilit chasm]

the right one is a bit annoying

nah not a bit, it's one of my most hatred pattern

[simple frost]

triple strike/sprint areas too.

my bane sigh

[tame forge]

Damn I started with champion boost this week and then they offered me main character

Weird set, no repeating roles

[leaden wraith]

seeds like this one are great to get high score

[tame forge]

Yeah I'm exhausting a lot of my caked units

Saving some op ones for a10

[normal python]

So, I got the same starting A1 as last week, but this time my A2 is different

[ebon valve]

annoyingly one of these sets only has strike/field twice...

[normal python]

Oh fuck yeah, Champion upgrade on A3

[fair ember]

Yay

Vs Argenta Hard with Cheryl

[simple frost]

Acerola died? :o?

[urban ledge]

Alright I guess I should do this

Villains ugh

I think only Oleana is worth a damn for A10 lol

In my roster

[leaden wraith]

you can always wait for better themes

[urban ledge]

Yeah I’m hoping for good one son the shop haha

So far no luck

[leaden wraith]

your Villain roster is good, but almost no coverage for Field Strike except SS Gladion

personally i often look for themes which can do that

[urban ledge]

Huh

James is tanking better than I thought he would

[normal python]

Damnit, only 9750 points this week

[urban ledge]

That’s good lol

Unless it includes a lucky area

Oh wait you’re the guy with a ton of EXR?

[normal python]

Obviously not, otherwise it would've exceeded 10k before A10

No lol

[urban ledge]

Nah 9,5k is already good

Ooh yes please

[normal python]

I got Lucy again as my A10

A10 VH that is

[urban ledge]

Lucky

[leaden wraith]

Unova only have 3 Field Sprint coverages, so consider it wisely

[urban ledge]

I got this spread haha

… wait

[leaden wraith]

nvm

[urban ledge]

Bellelba isn’t a Villain

Drat

[normal python]

Oh fuck me, I died to Lucy just because I missed my quadqueue

[urban ledge]

This Steven battle was hell without a defensive support lol

[ebon valve]

Winded up getting A4-b the 2nd path

[urban ledge]

NOPE can’t even beat Palmer in UB no way im beating him in BR

[stiff flume]

It's actually easier in BR bcs of the boosts, check the shop if there's something interesting
You can do it

[surreal oasis]

Another lucky with the “best” combination

[normal python]

[urban ledge]

At least you got a lucky stage

God that sucked but poison + Bellelba team finally worked

Had to. Get Crit Defense refresh

Rock Slide SUCKS

[fair ember]

Forgot to change my grid to the infinite grassy terrain one lmao

[urban ledge]

Not bad income, still on track to purchase everything in the shop

[daring tide]

time for battle rally wheezes and dies

field/sprint bonus a1. great

oh nvm its tech/field lol my bad

oh NOW its field and sprint for a2. fuck my life

ANOTHER FUCKIN FIELD

[twilit chasm]

My favorite region

[stiff flume]

Use pomatools to check your next stages roles
So you can plan without surprises

[twilit chasm]

not so bad

[twilit chasm]

this is your seed, make sure managing your field roster well

personally i would love to take this seed since my geeta can make it ezpz

[gentle maple]

Well that's a new best

Gym leader start was rough

[hybrid abyss]

how the fuck

[normal python]

No lucky?

Because if that's without a lucky area, then that's nearly the maximum score achievable

[hybrid abyss]

no fucking shot

[gentle maple]

Nah it's with lucky

17/25 Rolex used, 3 were lucky

[normal python]

You mean you got a lucky area where you had 3 units with both the role bonuses

[gentle maple]

Honestly the one purchase crit boost came in clutch, there were so many rounds I did not have gym leaders and the other buys were so bad

[gentle maple]

Yeah

[normal python]

Champion upgrade was the saviour of my run

[gentle maple]

I bought water but could not use it till a10

[hybrid abyss]

pls help
FYI, the aforementioned order lines up really well with support and/or tech role combo

[gentle maple]

a10 was such a tough decision whether to save nc leaf or nc Serena but saving serena meant I didn't fold to Anabel tho it turned out to be thorton

[gentle maple]

Just don't impulse cake?

SS red is an ok choice but that's up to u

[hybrid abyss]

aight then

[gentle maple]

Also I doubt anyone would bother to check when u mention B1

Just post the whole pomatools seed is better

[hybrid abyss]

... why? I'm not asking for advice to beat that order; I'm just asking for investment regarding BR.

Doesn't require a screenshot taking up half the page, as you can answer without the order context.

[gentle maple]

What I mean is.. posting the whole seed like that will make people more easily able to help

That's not B1 btw

[hybrid abyss]

That's the thing. People wouldn't need to knowthe seed to help with unit investment.

I just mentioned B1 just in case

[gentle maple]

True I guess but don't impulse cake someone just for BR

Better to cake someone u might use outside of BR too

Unless u run out of that option

[hybrid abyss]

Me caking NCSilv cuz of field set as a strike/sprint pair

[gentle maple]

Also I guess rare double roles can be a valid reason to cake

[twilit chasm]

if you cake for BR you likely clear the rest of game content anyway lol

[gentle maple]

Like support field, sprint tech

For now

Or just archer

[hybrid abyss]

thing is, idk much about the UBs, at least not (strongly) intuitively.

All I remember is a gist of how hard each UB is compared to one another.

[gentle maple]

I think the easy answer for that is keep someone that can rebuff and someone that can change weather

[twilit chasm]

rolex core units of ub comp helps you manage team build better

[gentle maple]

If u stick to this u only fold to Anabel or palmer

[hybrid abyss]

I'm lowkey scared of VHPalmer

[gentle maple]

If u keep NC Serena u only fold to palmer

But palmer can be cleared with 3+ boost or just ultra jelly/dango in your store

[twilit chasm]

my seed is like this and i wonder if nc blue + zerena + somebody with unova boost can counter anything

[hybrid abyss]

I've done that duo + PryceDewgong on Lucy

would be better with LodgeVolo if you have him

[gentle maple]

If u have rei or bellelba u got a good chance against palmer

[twilit chasm]

palmer is fine, you can just buy more stacks, he has no special gimmick anyway

[gentle maple]

Well.. palmer can just be a game over if u only have 1 stack with nothing in the store to help

[twilit chasm]

not an issue to me since i always buy at least 3 or 4 stacks when reaching a10 lol

[gentle maple]

I always go into a10 with only 1 or 2 stacks fearing palmer

[heavy fjord]

I dont have any Strike / Field pairs aaaaa

[hybrid abyss]

any potential units that can become so?

[heavy fjord]

Only Mix Blue, and im not very inclined to do that right now

[mild kiln]

upgrade situation was pretty bad but the double bonuses are really starting to stack up

[nimble holly]

Almost 12000🤣

[granite yacht]

Which combination of roles apear in rally the most? I remember seeing that sprint/field shows up the most

[hybrid abyss]

actually scratch that; no one put that info in the pins...? goddamn...

courtesy of Maelmc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HSHcdgyYh9ulAytt8Ge11Gwl7fQhY4eMzOt62UoaHz8/edit?usp=sharing

[granite yacht]

Thanks!

[west abyss]

It is literally one of the images there

[gentle maple]

Tech support

[west abyss]

https://i.imgur.com/qpUouzu.png

[granite yacht]

Wow, didn't notice that

[west abyss]

Sprint Field our beloved

[gentle maple]

Can't wait for our first sprint field

[hybrid abyss]

ah... didn't catch the numbers to the left.

You guys think I cooked with this? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jXQpPxez466aagBt5ke1u0xZALe_IKre5OmVndBgMaI/edit#gid=1070250135&range=A1

One change I am conteplating is usign Zerena early so I don't have to worry about wasting x2 bonuses to some dumb restrictive stage(s).

[proven matrix]

Villain upgrade

I think I'm cooked

[hybrid abyss]

ArchieEXR

[proven matrix]

No Archie

[hybrid abyss]

Archer? VGio? uhhh Ariana?

[proven matrix]

Nothing

[quiet apex]

This took a lot of tries. Stupid Wallace.

[quiet apex]

Not my worst run but Blahhhh

[urban ledge]

Oof

[quiet apex]

Yeah those Field based runs are rough.

[zenith nebula]

Can’t beat this very well (zone effects run out way too quickly since ss mina 1/5), y’all know a way to beat this with minimum investment? Willing to purchase some boosts but I need your intel to see if it’ll truly help.
By the way this is probably the best team considering everything.

Also I’ve been thinking on putting my nc serena at 3/5 so if that helps with anything please do tell me

[hexed crane]

What's your rock and psychic roster look like?

[zenith nebula]

Only reason I didn’t use nc rosa was because she doesn’t provide field effects

And v elio is too inconsistent

This is the closest I’ve gotten btw

Biggest issue is field effect running out

(I only damaged sides with ss Steven sync)

[zenith nebula]

Oh I usually use water shuriken

I was using brutal swing for that flinch

[noble atlas]

which event is the Kris/Hop/Lucas BC from? electric weak mid, sides are Zamazenta and Dialga and are weak to fighting

shreds me every time I see it

[leaden wraith]

SSA Cynthia and SST Red BC

[noble atlas]

mm it all of a sudden makes a lot of sense why I had to break out my own sst red on that one

then I got acerola e4 right after and it was much much easier than that one

[leaden wraith]

Can you show us your available tech and support roster?

[leaden wraith]

Yeah the enemies have many strong moves

Luckily i haven't got it yet

[noble atlas]

I get it basically every other week unfortunately

[leaden wraith]

[zenith nebula]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/761353323253071892/1236466226776248390/SyncPairsTracker_7.png?ex=663abf68&is=66396de8&hm=d40c1e25751ab130106101fbac20ea531249e352ae976dd61ff0f18950cc3733&

Move levels are only accurate on limited units

Also a lot of them were used up

These

[simple frost]

Dang i had that this week. Had to use aura Cynthia 😭

[leaden wraith]

If SST Red was available you would have a chance

It's better move to H now

[sour flax]

This should be fun

[polar fable]

What should I do? Rival is my boost

[leaden wraith]

That team should be able to work, try Anni May tanking strat then

Or replace May with SC Selene for flinch

[polar fable]

Alr

[leaden wraith]

I hope Viola's B Move is still available

[polar fable]

She has healthy advantage yet gladion doesnt even do 1k when I paralyze

[polar fable]

Yeah I havent used her yet

[leaden wraith]

That's strange. Even with fully buffed Gladion?

I assume you only have a rival boost atm

[polar fable]

Yeah just 1 rival

Not sure if im missing smth he did do more damage later on but it makes no sense why it was so little even if it was no sync buffs

[leaden wraith]

So i get where the struggle comes from. But this team can still beat Cynthia

[polar fable]

Selene died in 2 hits

[leaden wraith]

time your flinch better, or reset for ideal pattern which opponents use items in the first few turns

Steel Zone conflicts with Bug Zone tho must queue Bug first

[polar fable]

[leaden wraith]

[polar fable]

Yeah I paralyzed with viola and just used selene’s tm until then

I couldve probably beaten this if I flinched togekiss before it used a fire move, but steel zone was abt to run out

[leaden wraith]

how about syncing with Selene to keep the extended zone activated?

[proven matrix]

ok so i think i can go straight with mix red up to area 7

i have enough villains

but shop offered steel upgrade

and my steel roster is not the best

[simple frost]

Skip it

[polar fable]

Finally thx for the help

[proven matrix]

i forgot i have selene

loool

[simple frost]

Flinch gaming?

[proven matrix]

i mean

i have 2 uses of steel zone

unless shop blesses me with infinite steel zone

not happening

[simple frost]

Still wouldnt buy the steel upg.

[proven matrix]

but i dont wanna waste

yea you right

[simple frost]

Mix red should be good enough up to a6. Use selene if you need to stun something.

[proven matrix]

thats what i said

lol

[leaden wraith]

[proven matrix]

area 4 moment

three 2.0x boosts and i dont wanna use red

unless i swap out and find a way to win with the three i have and use geeter all the way

but area 7

ooooo i hate area 7

[leaden wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/why-just-why-but-why-monkey-gif-18202838286539704455

[polar fable]

Not bad, 8100

[simple frost]

Not enough sup/tech units?

[proven matrix]

i have

but

it stops me from using busted field units

[simple frost]

A8 and above has field bonus as well?

[proven matrix]

yes

i have geeter

area 5 with field support and i dont wanna use ss morty yet

fear of argenta

[leaden wraith]

do you have other weather supports?

[proven matrix]

uhhhhhhhh

[leaden wraith]

oh wait A10 is field tech

[proven matrix]

yah

[leaden wraith]

i would still use Morty on A5

[proven matrix]

pain

agony even

suffering, if you will

[copper nexus]

Omg hi arzen

[proven matrix]

omg hi richu

[karmic wraith]

i need to cake mix red hes my only strike/field option

even tho hes 1/5

ok i did it

mayb i will candy him one day

been busy all day i will start rally tomorrow but my free boost was sinnoh omg im gaming

got my seed from round 1 and ah hell no what is THIS?????

[proven matrix]

hey look its my seed

except its tech instead of strike in a1

[karmic wraith]

i would say sst red sweep but area 7 is there to troll me

[leaden wraith]

A7 ruining the pattern, as usual

[proven matrix]

oh right

sst red

how silly of me

[karmic wraith]

mfw he has a double bonus area 6 but no bonus area 7 and i wont be able to use him on the final stages if i switch him off

aaaaaa

pain

[proven matrix]

if i can keep him alive until area 10 he can get 2.0 bonus by then

but oh boy villain theme

god why

WHY

1 villain

already used

[sour flax]

For a pure sprint run, this is not bad

[glass patrol]

You couuuuld try elio

[gentle maple]

Did u do a10 vh or hard 👀

Cant imagine doing a10 with only base boost

[misty pawn]

Field/Strike is rough... especially if you don't have that many Field units or EX Roles.
Luckily I have SST Red but still.

[proven matrix]

sad that i have to waste sst red early

area 6 was not playing around

and neither will area 9

[misty pawn]

I also had Electric Upgrade.

God... I only have 2 Field units too.

[proven matrix]

unless area 9 is lucky i dont think ican win

[leaden wraith]

Believe in yourself

[oblique breach]

Auspicious starr

Bought the gym leader upgradr

[leaden wraith]

not the best one, but it's okay

[proven matrix]

bug weak hau on a9

wait i have viola

nvm this got interesting

wait but i used geeter

AAAAAAAAAAAA

fuck it rei it is

wow that was easier than i thought

[sour flax]

All 9 vh and last one on hard

[proven matrix]

PALMER

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

it might be over

i might have a plan

it will be a bad one

but its a plan nonetheless

nvm sc diantha doesnt hit hard

AND HES IN HARD TOO

WHAT THE HELL

does PB ignore protect

cause i have guard chocolat

gentlemen it might not be over yet

[urban ledge]

I just beat Palmer for the very first time this week haha

[proven matrix]

palmer isnt a worry in regular UB but when you are only limited to this it becomes a big problem

[simple frost]

Any ultra jelly?

Or any shop item that can help?

[proven matrix]

no jelly

Just chocolat

[simple frost]

Hard it is ;<

Actually how much upgrades youve got?

[twilit chasm]

Sc diantha can carry ezpz

[proven matrix]

1

[twilit chasm]

Or any nuker seriously tech bonus is the most blessed already

[proven matrix]

aha

yea

sure

totally didn't try that

[twilit chasm]

I even wish i could get palmer

[leaden wraith]

you have to overspend if you want to clear Palmer on VH

[twilit chasm]

Since hes the least gimmicky boss

[proven matrix]

sad but true

but does his PB bypass protect from chocolat?

[twilit chasm]

200 pts is not overspending at all

[proven matrix]

cause that could be the saving grace

[leaden wraith]

no, only his sync and max moves do

hmm maybeeeeee it can work

the real problem is the post sync max move tho

[proven matrix]

I'm thinking ghetsus for villain and holiday Whitney for crit shield but maybe I'll change Whitney for something else

Villain upgrade SUCKS

[leaden wraith]

how about other villains?

Ghetsis won't do much

[proven matrix]

there's only so much villains

worse if they're tech

cause they don't do mucj

[leaden wraith]

you have to insta queue after his sync so the guard is activated again

[twilit chasm]

Gladion then

[proven matrix]

I thought my silly strategy would work, debuff palmer to -6, activate crit shield for sync and max

win

[twilit chasm]

Nah it’s still impossible

[proven matrix]

that word is not in my vocabulary

[leaden wraith]

oh right, forgot the zone

in normal UB, SS Mina and Bellelba wants to replace zone to tank max move with crit shield and guard

[twilit chasm]

I used 5/5 faitlin and he still doesnt give shit

[leaden wraith]

you MUST remove normal zone

[proven matrix]

0/5 Bellelba

oh I forgot about zone

uhhhhhhhh

gg

Holiday viola?

chance of para is kinda silly

[leaden wraith]

i wouldn't rely on para

but losing crit shield is huge

[proven matrix]

yea that's my problem

Although I'm willing to wait until Sunday to see if I get Bellelba this week

if I don't

uhhh

gg

[simple frost]

Whose your normal fight though?

[timid hound]

Good morning ♪

[proven matrix]

Not even bothering to do normal

[timid hound]

Time to see what's this week's suffering is

[proven matrix]

Lucy

Wait not Lucy

[timid hound]

What did I do to deserve this?

[proven matrix]

Say good morning at 1:56 am

[simple frost]

What about shop?

[timid hound]

Unova

Gonna wait and find something better

Unova actually pretty good though hm

[leaden wraith]

exist

the seed is good tho

[timid hound]

Yeah

It's ok, I'll just pivot

The funny thing is that last week I also started with Flying lol

Pivoted to MC tho

[leaden wraith]

that means this week you will pivot to Champion

[timid hound]

Champion

Maybe this week I'll get the elusive crit power up

[simple frost]

Hoping too high xD

I think ive only gotten that thing 3 times of my runs

[timid hound]

I think I've gotten more Lucky Stages than Crit PU

Crazy

[simple frost]

True that

[twilit chasm]

Hmm i have nc blue and zerena with rolex. Should i use one of them on a3 so i can have more choice at a10 in case the boss is too gimmicky

[leaden wraith]

have you reached a3 yet?

[twilit chasm]

A2 currently

[leaden wraith]

get to A3 first

if it's a lucky stage, use both there

[twilit chasm]

You know i wont get it anyway

[leaden wraith]

otherwise save them for A10

[leaden wraith]

good point

well just in case

[twilit chasm]

So what if i get the forth anabel in a row

[leaden wraith]

then you got luck issue

[ionic sigil]

Zerena and NC Blue are also rough with Thorton if you get him on A10

[leaden wraith]

unless you have Half Cake available

i beat him with aforementioned 2 and Kiawe

[twilit chasm]

Smh fuck it. Zerena at a3 then.

Still got a lot good strikes for a10

[leaden wraith]

it doesn't affect your total score at all, but Zerena also has tools to counter some UB

[twilit chasm]

She does? Pretty sure she only has restrain thing

[ionic sigil]

What boost are you running too?

[leaden wraith]

Lucy: Super effective
Argenta: Restrain
Thorton: mixed damage
Palmer: good dmg

[ionic sigil]

I really don’t like her for Thorton still.

[twilit chasm]

So only restrain matters lol. Other is replacable since off type and good dmg can apply to any strikes

[ionic sigil]

If you have SS Hilda, she will wreck Thorton too

[ionic sigil]

Unova is pretty decent

[twilit chasm]

I also think about buying that defense power but idk

Can nc blue debuff def

[leaden wraith]

yes he can

[ionic sigil]

Once via sync at 3/5 on grid iirc

[boreal siren]

Should I just do Hard and skip Drake? I can't seem to deal enough damage before he nukes my units.

[bronze aspen]

What does ultra damage do

[bronze aspen]

Can't you buy upgrades?

[boreal siren]

I can buy Ultra Jelly, yeah.

[boreal siren]

I mostly just abuse ramping the CD and syncing with Rei for the flinches while Silver gets rid of rain.

[bronze aspen]

I mean ultra jelly*

[bronze aspen]

Oh which reminds me of my predicament yesterday

I forgot that i have 2x strike sprints and have to use them all in one swoop at a9

I used rei to flinch deny them turns

But also i have speed boosts on my side and interference so i think buying such upgrades will come a long way

[leaden wraith]

You dont have any Hoenn (or Galar) in your team

Hence the struggle

[timid hound]

Need help

A1 Support Sprint with no other Support Sprint

Who do I save

[bronze aspen]

Can't you just use just supports

[timid hound]

SSACynthia NCRosa Chase SSDawn

The other 3 I'll sacc

I meant the stage is Support Sprint bonus

Hahaah

Gotta maximize profit

[boreal siren]

It was Hoenn Upgrade.
And I just finished the Rally. Decided to buy the Ultra Jelly then Apple Cupped my way to victory.

[timid hound]

Alright Imma just save NCRosa

Surely more useful than SSACyn

[leaden wraith]

Congrats getting solid score even after spending 600 pts is impressive

[prisma gyro]

So i just did some calculations. I have 15 caked units, therefore the theoretical highest score i can get without the lucky stage is 500+7500+150*15 = 10250, which is only possible if all caked units get their corresponding double role bonus. 10k+ is only possible with at least 14 double role bonus.

Assuming each caked unit only get double role bonus once, since there are no consecutive stages with the same double role bonus (right?)

[stiff flume]

Consider a bad split so you're going to use effectively half of those caked units

15 caked units are more than enough for 9k avrg
I'm exactly on that spot

[prisma gyro]

Oh there are seeds like E2 with identical role bonus not consecutive but 1 stage apart, so a caked unit does have a chance of getting double role bonus twice

[stiff flume]

If you're investing for BR you should take in consideration how many times those appear

Use this as reference #1010910822471585914 message

[prisma gyro]

Field+sprint pair when
At least I got ss morty for field+support. Had a spare field cake waiting to be used on someone.

[simple frost]

something like this D:?

this way i can keep track of EXR for Battle Rally

[prisma gyro]

My seed this week and caked roster. Already no support+strike and support+sprint so 5 units are out. Max score is 8000+150*10 = 9500

Sst red is also out

[prisma gyro]

What does the number next to a unit mean? Usefulness score?

[simple frost]

move level

[prisma gyro]

Geeta also out. 9200 max. It's reassuring in a way to see the limit beforehand

[stiff flume]

Yep, i'm doing exactly that
But I have the combination amount on the side, so that keep remind me that a single tech/supp can be more worth than two tech/field or sprint/supp
(On red the ones I plan to cake)

[simple frost]

hrm i think getting 2 of each would be great.

[stiff flume]

Yep having 2 on each, plus everything else on Tech/supp is the best plan

I just don't have any worth sprint/tech rn

[prisma gyro]

I kinda hesitate on caking more support strike or support tech. Already have 3 of each.

[stiff flume]

I value the caked unit a lot

Like I'm never going to cake ncCalem, ever

So i think being hesitant is fine, there's no hurry if you can already hit the 9k avrg

[stiff flume]

But for this, how are other roles?

[prisma gyro]

Been there done that

[prisma gyro]

Maybe i should make a spreadsheet

[stiff flume]

Yeah, it's worth tracking them early on

[prisma gyro]

3 support tech
3 support strike
2 tech strike
2 support sprint
2 strike sprint
1 field tech
1 field strike
1 field support

That totals to 15

[stiff flume]

Looks really nice

[prisma gyro]

At least nc calem is top tier amongst support with tech exr

[stiff flume]

And for the choice between supp/strike or supp/tech
Supp tech appear twice in many patterns, I would go for that
So you can save key units like ncLeaf or ncSerena (if you have them) on other patterns

[prisma gyro]

You mean those 2 specifically for UBs?

[simple frost]

he was one of my first Tech/Support sigh

(NC Calem)

[leaden wraith]

Those two are great pairs who happen to counter most UBs, especially Leaf

[prisma gyro]

Kinda understandable. There weren't many units to cake in the early days

Mfw no nc leaf

[timid hound]

How's gym leader upgrade ?

Yay nay or eh

[leaden wraith]

nay

[gentle maple]

Nay

[leaden wraith]

It's on middle tier

[timid hound]

Skip it is

[gentle maple]

Would even argue it's on the lower end of the middle tier

[timid hound]

All the more reason to dodge

[twilit chasm]

Smh didnt know i still have quite a bunch of tech cakes. Let see which unit is useful to rolex for more bonus

[timid hound]

That's a lot of tech cakes

[prisma gyro]

A whopping 450 extra points per run (max)

[twilit chasm]

There are barely good tech rolex so lol

[prisma gyro]

That's a lot of cakable units

Mine don't even fill up the screen

[stiff flume]

Yep
If you got supp+tech twice you can drop them all
If you got just one, you can save one of the two

[onyx wadi]

Both Red with Tech Roles becomes a mosnter

[twilit chasm]

ngl i barely use ssred these days

[onyx wadi]

SS Red feels new with Tech role

[simple frost]

neat 😮

i dont need to EXR him mostly cuz, NC Leaf exists.

[stiff flume]

Yep Kanto MC Fire covered

[onyx wadi]

Give him haymaker and both Solar Flare

[stiff flume]

I'm also trying to give priority to tech+strike rather than strike+tech
And tech+support rather than supp+tech

There aren't many but we're quickly getting old units

[onyx wadi]

Same

Like NC Serena > NC Calem

[leaden wraith]

Meanwhile i just go for faves 3 strike sup waiting in line

[onyx wadi]

Waiting for a unit with 300 sync power to get tech

For 450

And max that out to 500 power

[stiff flume]

Fair, before BR the only unit I caked was ssRoxie

[leaden wraith]

Just 5/5 a strike

[twilit chasm]

I love how this seed screams using rei at a1-a5 and rika at a5-a10 which saves a lot of sprint/field slots to me

[prisma gyro]

That's a really neat division

[twilit chasm]

In fact im having this seed, so i realize it’s less stressful than the last time i got the same seed

[simple frost]

i caked her cuz HSE. She really didnt need it tbh....but more battle rally sheningans is nice.

[onyx wadi]

Same

[outer jasper]

Where’s the pinned document of all the gimmick stages? Having trouble with one rn

[simple frost]

https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1232035765954019338

if you want the raw data / pastebin, its in Absol's pastebin

[twilit chasm]

just tap and win

[outer jasper]

I got the holiday Whitney stage at arena 9

So I think it’s just using bug zone or any zone

[prisma gyro]

The battle rally page on bulbapedia is also pretty exhaustive

[outer jasper]

Dang also fluid fortification 😭

I’m cooked

[leaden wraith]

Don't worry, cooked

[outer jasper]

I cooked 🔥

[karmic wraith]

this stage SUCKS

[lost cliff]

oh i'd sob

oh that isnt ub anabel

what stage is that

[karmic wraith]

summer 2023 battle challenge

the one where anabel has healthy advantage 8 and furious brawn and brawn sync and buffs her attack like every move

i passed on a unova upgrade in the shop earlier i am VERY regretting it now

[quiet tiger]

Some tough fights this run.

[karmic wraith]

well finished 9k

had to bring lodge volo to the final round vh darach just cuz i needed a sinnoh strike unit that could set field effects (just cuz sst red and champ blue couldnt quite finish it with 0 boosts)... investments are paying off i suppose

[quiet tiger]

Finding the turn order on this was a huge hurdle

[twilit chasm]

Finally got a good thing at a8

[quiet tiger]

And just like that, easy finale. Shame about Support/Strike Bonus not benefitting Red but 10K is 10K

[heavy fjord]

Well, for a lucky stage run this couldve gone better, but it also couldve gone worse

[sour flax]

Man i want to hit 10k

But i need more units to cake

[sweet mango]

Oh boy

Should I use ss steven and elaine?

Have 1 spare tech and support cake

[cobalt furnace]

Check all of the possible seeds

[sweet mango]

Too many options

That’s just the first role

[cobalt furnace]

^

[sweet mango]

What do you recommend i should do regarding who to use?

Won’t know my seed until after I do stage 1

Just use 1.5x?

[eternal nebula]

If you can't guarantee which seed you got right away, then yes

[atomic pine]

what can i do against entei. Im not dealing him any dmg

and I think i dont have anything good to lower his stats

[glass patrol]

Go to hard

If no rain and no debuff no killablr

[atomic pine]

its impossible

[urban ledge]

Then yeah no shame in downgrading to Hard if VH Anabel is too much

[atomic pine]

yeah, the problem is I cant even beat the easy one

[sweet mango]

Had this seed and had lucy as boss and got 9600 points. Would have gotten more points if i took advantage of tech/support on stage 1 and strike/support on stage 5

Ended up getting main character in the shop

[hybrid abyss]

Pls

Decision paralysis getting the better of me as always

[leaden wraith]

why do you want to run SS Lusamine on A2

otherwise the rest is okay

i'm not a fan of running the same units in continuous rounds tho

[hybrid abyss]

SSLusa has same x1.5 prize bonus multiplier and is already locked in. Might as well use her while I can.

[hybrid abyss]

Note this too

[timid hound]

Who's NYLance fight meant for?

HE4 and juggling 2 status is no joke

[ionic sigil]

What is the weakness? Electric?

[stoic citrus]

For NY Volkner and Sabrina

[timid hound]

Yeesh

Ah yes, Body Slam paralyzes

They do be throwing status like hotcakes

[timid hound]

It's been so long since I last faced Darach

What he do again lol

Ah field effect

SSLana should eat him up I think

[leaden wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-anime-gif-21028290

[timid hound]

Is Darach really tanky even with WTZ or is SSLana just weak

Or maybe I only have 1 boost

[leaden wraith]

perhaps the latter

[severe bronze]

lana is the real psychic

shes probably getting tech rolex but i want to adopt her to field family

[leaden wraith]

Field EX directly conflicts with Weird World, i doubt she and other Tapu would get Field

[severe bronze]

oh she wont get field rolex

but she is "field"

[leaden wraith]

all Tapu are prototype Field

[severe bronze]

i also adopt nc silver to field

[timid hound]

Unlimited WTZ Works

[rapid notch]

Gym leader or dragon boost?

[leaden wraith]

Which one do you see stronger and has more coverage for Field Sprint?

[rapid notch]

Dragon def has more offensive units while gym leader is purely support

Pretty sure the only unit in both rosters with sprint or field is ncnate

[leaden wraith]

No caked SS Morty?

Your GL roster has good offensive units too

[rapid notch]

No caked Morty yet

I'm spending my field cake on rika

I could buy another field cake after i finish this rally but I wanted to prioritise other cakes like tech and strike

[leaden wraith]

If you want a boosted unit for Field Sprint, Dragon it is. GL has more broad selections

[twilit chasm]

Why tf is she such tanky palmer and anabel are even weaker than her

[lost cliff]

use your unova boost

nita is kalos

[twilit chasm]

i used vilda and shes not any better smh
still cant kill her fast enough and dies at third sync

[severe bronze]

i usually stack 2 stats (1 from initial boost) and just 1 damage multiplier

it gives better result in my experience

[lost cliff]

You need to debuff speed

If you have any unovan speed debuffers

[severe bronze]

clay is solid option here

[lost cliff]

Ye

[severe bronze]

debuff speed, antitoxin passive

[lost cliff]

4/5 ss hilbert also works if you have him

Nvm he cant debuff speed off type

Ignore me

[simple frost]

hrm, Ghetsis would be nice for Speed Debuff, but Strike/Support 😭

[severe bronze]

oh wait i didnt see the role bonus

[twilit chasm]

nita's bulldoze

[lost cliff]

Oh yea

[simple frost]

Nita is Kalos though.

[severe bronze]

you need unova

[lost cliff]

You might wanna replace gladion then for a unovan striker

[severe bronze]

youre fighting against 2x ub right now

[twilit chasm]

my picture makes it confusing but it was vilda replacing gladion

[simple frost]

Vilda gamine 😮

with EXR?

[twilit chasm]

no rolex tho

[simple frost]

its fine

[twilit chasm]

kinda hate it if i have to rolex

[lost cliff]

Is she 3/5? With defense power up and the sync power ups i feel like she should be sweeping

[twilit chasm]

yea 3/5

[severe bronze]

run morty double support and see if she can survive first sync

[twilit chasm]

shes fine at firts sync, but she cant at third

[simple frost]

anytihng in sshop to help?

[severe bronze]

bring sun setter so you can kill her pre second sync

[twilit chasm]

she needs to survive after the 3rd to sync one more time to beat the boss

[severe bronze]

the problem is theres no speed debuffer so im not sure if she lives the first one

[leaden wraith]

How about buying another Unova boost

[severe bronze]

thats also an option

[lost cliff]

I'm surprised you're even getting to third sync tbh

[twilit chasm]

ugh i dont want to remove nc blue for bonus, but maybe mooh can help her

[severe bronze]

blue mooh vilda

dont have to take him out

[lost cliff]

No speed debuffs tho

[simple frost]

where's your peed drop

[leaden wraith]

I dont think it's an issue

[severe bronze]

.

[lost cliff]

Speedster sync 9 moment

[leaden wraith]

kitty said she was one sync away fron clearing Lucy

With another Unova boost it should be good

[severe bronze]

might as well try

[lost cliff]

Yea i'd just get the second boost

Its only a 100 point deficit

[twilit chasm]

smh when i complained a lot about anabel but then lucy makes me buy stuff more than her

[severe bronze]

dont stack to much damage multiplier next time

it doesnt add that much besides the first one

[twilit chasm]

well it's not that bad, 4 stacks is pretty standard to beat palmer with any comp

[lost cliff]

I mean I wouldnt say that, damage multis are valuable because two of them are worth 1 region upgrade

Its just a matter of being able to survive the stage to utilize them

[simple frost]

The DEF Power Upgrade is kinda nice though.

did you buy it discount?

[severe bronze]

idt this is how it works but i believe its additive with things like zone? so youre not really getting that much

[lost cliff]

Ohh okay

[twilit chasm]

i think i got one upgrade with 25 pts but didnt remember which one was

[severe bronze]

i find 2 theme 1 damage multiplier will result better than 1 theme 3 damage multiplier

[twilit chasm]

i thought it boosts damage in same way since it's same x2

not saying other stat tho

honestly dunno how it works

[leaden wraith]

I think they are additive, but no clue

[severe bronze]

im not really sure either but it feels like its additive

[simple frost]

need more testing 😦

but tbh, i think having some form of damage modifier helps, more than just pure theme boosts

[bronze aspen]

Do you guys think leon onwards will be added in rally anytime soon

[leaden wraith]

No clue

My bet is they starting to add new stages on 5th anni

[simple frost]

I feel like they'll update it in a year/anniversary of battle rally.

[stiff flume]

As overall performance investing on your theme is always better as you can survive longer

The crit is nice to have for extra but x1 should suffice
Is not worth stacking imo unless your only theme is unreliable like Trial Giver

[twilit chasm]

Yea 1 more unova boost solves the way

[oak jolt]

Good seed (but still no lucky area)

[twilit chasm]

Overspending this time lol

[oak jolt]

200% extra bulk and 500% extra damage, vs 100% extra bulk and 700% extra damage

[rustic dagger]

I’m getting cooked