Battle Rally

[severe bronze]

chop bmove is strong

[timid hound]

But yeah lemme try to get qq up

It's very tight but possible I think

Something something damage roll

[severe bronze]

hows the sides

you can still clear post palmer sync assuming you get lucky with para procs

[timid hound]

Like 60%

OH TRUE

Wait

Para procs still reduce sync CD no?

Oh you mean after

True!

[severe bronze]

after

man needs to be ded first

[timid hound]

This is pure brainrot

Why am I doing this

[severe bronze]

also if you deny palmers max

you can sync again

[timid hound]

I'm trying to deny his sync

[severe bronze]

target left first if you went post sync

[timid hound]

Ok

[carmine glade]

The real question

This is a lot of work for vh when hard exists

[severe bronze]

[timid hound]

I don't even need the points

At this stage it's a matter of pride

I'm so close

This is insane

I don't know what else is there to optimize

I already QQ everything, skill gear is decked out

I don't think anything in shop can help

[sudden hull]

whats in there

[kindred seal]

Who is this Rei battle for? Hard DPS check and sides wipe me out if I take out center

[leaden wraith]

NC Nate's BC

[heavy fjord]

Champion Nate

[sudden hull]

its a flying weak mid isnt it

[severe bronze]

can you record

[sudden hull]

im fairly sure ive seen it before

[leaden wraith]

Mid is Flying weak side is Dragon weak

[oblique breach]

where this from

[sudden hull]

thats just cs

[oblique breach]

ah

[sudden hull]

yeah then ive seen it before

wasnt that hard tbh

triple support clear

[kindred seal]

It is this one yeah

Problem is I can only do damage to center reliably. After that, my support is destroyed with an endless onslaught of Hyper Beams while I chip away doing sync only damage

[sudden hull]

they have hyper beam?

wtf?

[leaden wraith]

What team are you using? And please provide your current theme boosts too

[kindred seal]

This is the only point in the run where I can use a unit more than once because the one I got is designed to waste units

It's tech and sprint

I'm running Paulo, the Furisode Girl, and the guy with the Staraptor

Already bought a fourth Fairy boost

[timid hound]

Already bought champ boost

[severe bronze]

theres nothing helping in there besides the champ boost itself

[timid hound]

[severe bronze]

record maybe theres something we can optimize a bit

chop already running sp3 right?

[timid hound]

Yes

Ok sec might do that a bit later then since my lunch break is ending kek

[stiff flume]

What are those two 100 items?

[glass patrol]

Domo

[leaden wraith]

Replace Darach with a strong offtype tech

[kindred seal]

Stronger? He's already EX. Let me see...

[glass patrol]

Darach isn’t exactly the strongest nuke

I think anyway

Still don’t have 3/5

[stiff flume]

Imagine having crit

[leaden wraith]

Darach doesn't have crit, and his dps is not so good

[kindred seal]

His lack of crit really holds him back

Doing near no damage between syncs once center is down

[leaden wraith]

Yeah that's why you should replace him

[glass patrol]

Attack mode bet

[kindred seal]

So who is better? These other options don't look as convincing

[sudden hull]

you can just

like

not on type

crazy concept ik

[urban ledge]

Yeah I just offtype in battle rally if none apply for the Rolex

[kindred seal]

What choice do I have? I might just go down to Hard already

Not sure what exclusive never-reran limited unit this was designed for but it's too hard

[sudden hull]

dude i cleared this stage with triple support

its not that bad

[simple frost]

what's your Upgrades?

[kindred seal]

Fairy. I'm on 4x

[timid hound]

Parfait: +6 all Stats
Quick Cookies: gauge fast

I wish I had 4x boost

[simple frost]

Which area are you on?

[timid hound]

If I had 3x champion palmer would be long dead

[stiff flume]

That only should crack open any stage
Are you checking gimmicks?
Bdw you can use Acerola as tank and Lucas as Nuke+DPS

[simple frost]

definitely

[pseudo egret]

I think at this rate

you're losing more braincells

from trying to do VH

[timid hound]

Derp

[kindred seal]

Has to be physical damage, that's all I know for sure.

[sudden hull]

he has brainteaser and mind games

honestly not entirely sure who it was meant for

[pseudo egret]

no way a stage doesn't fold to 4x

[sudden hull]

well

catherine

is

not ideal

[pseudo egret]

oh catherine

...wait, why did you buy 4x fairy

[timid hound]

This is my punishment for penny pinching

[pseudo egret]

if you don't have good fairies

[timid hound]

Real

[pseudo egret]

nyisia or dialga can't be used?

or is that normal lisia

I see EXed in the corner

[leaden wraith]

OG Lisia

[stiff flume]

Show us the stage
We may check details if there's something that's limiting

[pseudo egret]

sleep deprivation catching up to me

[leaden wraith]

My picks are Sidney for good nuke + good chip on sides, and Colress for accuracy debuff shenanigans with good nuke

[carmine glade]

Somebody needs to be bonked to sleep

[kindred seal]

Fairy was the starting boost. I already regretted pivoting from my starter boost in my last rally run

[sudden hull]

who the hell is this for

nc nate to kill sides but who does mid

[pseudo egret]

...lodge skyla maybe

[sudden hull]

she came out like 3 months after

lol

[pseudo egret]

wait is this an anni skyla stage? yveltal?

[stiff flume]

Ok that's the stage

[pseudo egret]

when does zerena came out

[sudden hull]

no

[pseudo egret]

wait yeah it's rei

[sudden hull]

also way earlier

[pseudo egret]

no way it's that old

[sudden hull]

its a flying weak mid with dragon weak sides

i know it was frkm nc nate event

but who does special defense buffs and is flying?

[kindred seal]

Or prevent these stat destructions?

[pseudo egret]

are you sure it's from nate event

because I played through it

oh wait yeah he fights against rei

during the story

ehhh normal nate maybe?

[sudden hull]

yes im sure

[pseudo egret]

literally no reason to be flying weak otherwise

[sudden hull]

what makes it weirder is that they used decidueye instead of something thats actually dragon weak

unless rei’s team literally has nothing else

[stiff flume]

I think Gakon suggested team is enough
You can try eventually with Acerola tanking

Flinch here n there

[kindred seal]

Sidney does good sync damage. Helps he has crit

[timid hound]

New reset new me

Let's try again

[kindred seal]

Yes, a satisfactory outcome

[timid hound]

Nice

[stiff flume]

Wll done

[kindred seal]

Thanks

[grizzled gale]

You don’t need a second rebuff against Argenta so long as you have someone who can inflict status interference every turn.

For example, I first used NC Rosa to apply rebuff, and then when Suicune cleared it, I just continuously queued Teeter Dance right before my damage dealer attacked.

[timid hound]

Same

Okay

I've concluded that this is impossible

Wait

Can Palmer be flinched?

I think the DPS increase I get from zen headbutt flinching a AP outweighs the frames saved from spamming DT

Ugh he doesn't get Aggro2 in grid?

Grumble grumble

[severe bronze]

nope

[timid hound]

Ok then yeah it's impossible

I've stretched this to its limit

I'll make a video later but I doubt there's anything left to optimize

[severe bronze]

how many hp left for palmer

[timid hound]

15%

[severe bronze]

[timid hound]

Well

15-18%

Aka not 0%

I'm thinking of drastic parfait so SSTRed gets auto +6 ATK without TM

[severe bronze]

not worth

[timid hound]

But that definitely won't change anything drastically

[severe bronze]

whats parfait cost

[timid hound]

100

Lmao

[severe bronze]

might as well get another champ boost

oh wait

you cant

[timid hound]

Thinking of swapping someone for johto

But idk this is already such a well oiled machine

Let's see

[leaden wraith]

Parfait is useless. Crit ignores def buffs anyway

[timid hound]

It's a fools errand to keep pushing this

It's not for def

It's to skip using red tm

Tryna kill palmer before max move

It's truly joever

Why can't Hop or Steven be from Johto?

Okay time to explore the heretical option

Hm

If I go to H, it'll be 600 X 2.5 right

No wait 200 X 2.5

So 500 points

If I do VH losing 1 role bonus... 750

That's not the issue tho: the issue is I don't have enough DPS

And SSSteven "DPS"es by letting me sync quick

Yeah no this is impossible

At least I can say I've stretched this to its absolute limit

[severe bronze]

best i could do to replicate the clear

[timid hound]

Huehuehue

Yeah this is difficult af

This really shows how impactful a single +100% move or a single upgrade is

Steven pretty important too bc you need double team to fail

[severe bronze]

i think there is a chance but you need really good gears

[timid hound]

If you don't chop 3rd b move won't be in fighting zone

[severe bronze]

like im talking both 80-100 attack stat on both chop and red

[timid hound]

You need to save frames

Yikes

That's some godly luck

Just give me dahlia on a daily already

If I had 1 more boost this would've been the perfect team

Alas

[severe bronze]

a single damage multiplier wouldve made this easy

[timid hound]

Yeah

Can't believe I put more effort into this mode than LG

What a time to be alive

[severe bronze]

you know theres always a way

[timid hound]

Me sitting on 4 tech candies and 8 colorless candies

[severe bronze]

[timid hound]

But naw it's fine

I'll take the L

The biggest lesson from this is that skill won't always compensate for force

Sometimes you DO need bigger numbers

[severe bronze]

damage multiplier is cheap so usually i pick it up along the way

especially when i see crit buffs

[timid hound]

Crit is an instant pick up and I didn't see it

I check shop every area and I don't remember what I saw but definitely nothing noteworthy

Since I didn't pick up anything

I'm sure there may have been electric power up or whatever but yeah I didn't pick it up

[nimble tide]

It is what it is

[timid hound]

It was a fulfilling experience because I know I did everything I can

Well I'll post a video later anyways and maybe there's something more that can be optimized

I think I've figured it out tho but you never know

I'm just a casual player

[fair ember]

Dont think so? I cleared it many times with raw power

[simple frost]

did ya break it? o-o?

[tiny pulsar]

This should be more than doable but I'm soft-stuck

Really don't want to buy any items

[simple frost]

I think you can do it 😮

[leaden wraith]

that requires too many Rock Zone MPR to make work

[simple frost]

how much upgrades you've got?

[leaden wraith]

the team also doesn't have much survivability

how many boosts do you have?

[tiny pulsar]

none lmao

[timid hound]

15%

Cannot

[tiny pulsar]

I don't buy boosts for my runs anymore, my roster is large

[timid hound]

I'll post video later and maybe some strategists can help

I think I've optimized it as best as I can though

[tiny pulsar]

It surprisingly does ! The damage is good too, but yeah, Rock MPR is the main RNG issue I think ?

I can't actually remember when my run is dying

30% HP left, but during the huge HP recovery he does :(

Oh yeah, I'm using SS Steven in Defense mode

Because Def/Sp Def boost which powers up Diancies

Sorry for the ping!

[leaden wraith]

i'm thinking of suggesting using Deoxys Attack form to speed up, but he has no survivability

[timid hound]

What about Speed Forme

Evasion hax

[leaden wraith]

but it's nice to hear that the team is close to winning

[tiny pulsar]

I think I tried that on my first run but I also need the Def/sp Def boost for diancie

[leaden wraith]

all UBs have Piercing Gaze

[tiny pulsar]

also he died very very fast

[timid hound]

Oh right

[tiny pulsar]

NC Calem is not that useful for this run

Evasion does nothing with PG

[timid hound]

Wait that's Hard difficulty

[simple frost]

What's your freebie stat boost though?

[tiny pulsar]

Dragon

But I have zero dragon units with the role bonus

[timid hound]

So are you boostless or did you switch?

[leaden wraith]

it's Lucas or bust

or Anni Raihan

[tiny pulsar]

Boostless

[timid hound]

[tiny pulsar]

With EXR?

[timid hound]

Maybe 100 one time items is the move

[simple frost]

Lucas has no EXR, but is a Tech Unit xD

[leaden wraith]

he doesn't have EXR

[timid hound]

Haha

[tiny pulsar]

Ahh then I'd be losing bonus points

I have X2/X2/X1.5

And I'm already on Hard instead of Very Hard so I don't want to lose any more points

[leaden wraith]

Lucas is a tech, the result is still the same

[tiny pulsar]

But SS Steven/Lucas/NC Calem can't clear this stage

[leaden wraith]

you have him at 3/5, don't you?

[tiny pulsar]

2/5 iirc

[leaden wraith]

no wonder why

[tiny pulsar]

Even at 3/5 that team doesn't clear

[simple frost]

whose your Normal fight? .-.;

[tiny pulsar]

Same stage

But I'd lose way too many points

Might as well do apple cup Very hard

[simple frost]

whose very hard?

[tiny pulsar]

But even then, I'm not sure if I could clear that

Argenta

[simple frost]

Got Adaman in your reserve?

[tiny pulsar]

And I only have SS Lyra as my damage dealer

[tiny pulsar]

Nope lmao

[simple frost]

ah sadness.

[tiny pulsar]

Can't remove rain

[leaden wraith]

the best way is purchasing a 100 pts boost then clear H

it still gives more points than doing Normal

[simple frost]

anything in your Shop worth it?

outside of Dragon Upgrade i mean

[tiny pulsar]

Half Cake and Super effective Popcorn

[leaden wraith]

half cake is great

[tiny pulsar]

Really?

[leaden wraith]

Popcorn is great too, for Diantha

half cake leans towards defensive, while popcorn helps with offensive

[simple frost]

what's that exclamation : power up one?

the one next to Dragon Upgrade

[leaden wraith]

that doesn't help, like at all

[tiny pulsar]

Yeah because the only status is burn

and that's a run killer

[leaden wraith]

it only works if you can inflict a status condition on Darach somehow

[simple frost]

how much damage have you done against Darach with your current setup?

did you manage to kill the sides?

[tiny pulsar]

Yeah easily

But he was on 30%

[simple frost]

I'd definitely go for the Popcorn then.

[tiny pulsar]

My main issue is fast DPS

[leaden wraith]

so popcorn is great

[tiny pulsar]

So popcorn it is

Yehah

[fair ember]

Diantha is pain

[timid hound]

Would've helped mE

[tiny pulsar]

She's pretty good with 3/5 MPR

[fair ember]

Those rock zones expire too soon

[tiny pulsar]

still needs an EXR in the future lol

Field maybe

[fair ember]

Because her b move takes too long to proc

[simple frost]

Field lets go ❤️

She wont be a busted as SST Red, but being able to spam her BMove ffor longer is gonna be nice.

[twilit chasm]

What a bait, but ill take it

NOOOOOOOOO

[stark dawn]

hey technically field strike means nc blue + sst red

[timid hound]

At least it looks like your DMG output is boosted as heck

[twilit chasm]

Im coping for more pts tho 💀

[stark dawn]

uuuh i mean it should work

[twilit chasm]

[stark dawn]

you have 200% stats and 400% damage

[twilit chasm]

Well time to cope then. If i cant beat him i will go back

And cry

[stark dawn]

if you can't just swap piers for a nuke lol

[tiny pulsar]

The MPR did not refresh 💀

Crying

[simple frost]

I think you can o it

[twilit chasm]

Youre right. It’s ez. Maybe i overprepared

[stark dawn]

just maybe

[twilit chasm]

It’s cheap so

[stark dawn]

[twilit chasm]

I wonder which highest pts people can get with field seed w/o lucky stage

[timid hound]

I'm happy for you

One day that'll be me

[twilit chasm]

Sounds like u got traumatized in a run from the past

[timid hound]

Past? Oh no

I'm talking about the present

[stark dawn]

[fair ember]

Oh god

Last one being field tech

Unless its Darach otherwise im losing for sure

[timid hound]

I have E1 right now and I'm up against Palmer

SOS

[timid hound]

I think screen recording is difficult

It's making my quad queueing very inconsistent

[stark dawn]

10550 if you get E2, 10250 if you get E1

No idea how you beat area 10 tho

[timid hound]

Pray for Lucy

[stark dawn]

even if you get lucy

[severe bronze]

i got e1 this week

[timid hound]

Samege

Still in palmer purgatory

[simple frost]

still waiting ffor SS May's RoleX 😭

[twilit chasm]

use nc hop or sc diantha

[timid hound]

If only it was that simple

[twilit chasm]

they can carry

[timid hound]

Pretty sure if I just candied then I'd be fine

[twilit chasm]

(only at 3/5)

[timid hound]

Ain't no way I'm sinking candied for this tho

[twilit chasm]

you will change your mind until you realize you will meet him next week, and next week, and next week, and no, it's not or, it's and

[severe bronze]

[timid hound]

[leaden wraith]

[timid hound]

I don't have a lot of tech candies though

[severe bronze]

you have 4

[twilit chasm]

use yellow

[timid hound]

That's literally only 4

I don't have a lot of that either

[twilit chasm]

you only need one of them to be 3/5 tho, imo investing a unit just for rally isnt a bad idea since this is endgame content and you can always use them weekly

[timid hound]

I thought this was Battle Rally not Moral Dilemma Rally

What if Miriam is Tech and I have no candies?

[twilit chasm]

when she's released you have 10 tech candies already

just do it

[glass parcel]

How do you even avoid getting hit by Palmer's Max move at A10

[twilit chasm]

it's a speedrun that you kill him before that

[glass parcel]

Yeah i did that the last time but I stupidly bought too many powerups and didn't wanted to do something like that again

I just did the hard area and let go of the extra 250 points

If only I had bought powerups but that will cost more than 250 points

[twilit chasm]

In my case i spent just right 250 pts and it was really ezpz

Probs it’s still clearable with less boost

[glass parcel]

That's the thing, I had to use 250 points to defeat him and I don't use it and defeat the hard stage instead so at the end my points was remaining the same

[simple frost]

The damage helps really xD

[twilit chasm]

So you want to beat him without spending anything?

[glass parcel]

Well it was a strike support boost and I can't use Riley so my best shot was either Bea or Korrina and both couldn't do it before the max move so I just gave up on it

[twilit chasm]

There are some recorded run spending no boost on pin iirc

[twilit chasm]

You can off type if you have better units

[glass parcel]

I already spent 50 and had to spend another 200 or maybe more if i wanted to defeat him so that or i could just do the hard stage without using those points

[simple frost]

tbh, Palmer just need you to hit fast and hard o.o

so you dont need that many stat boosts, just Power.

[glass parcel]

Oh okay! Well even at all attack and defense stats high I couldn't KO him before his max move

[twilit chasm]

Palmer hits shit before his nuke and max move

So no need def stat

[glass parcel]

I just couldn't beat him before his max move

[simple frost]

max pain 😭

[glass parcel]

Max pain fr

[twilit chasm]

buy the one with boosting dmg based on a certain condition ig, it's the cheapest

[glass parcel]

Yeah will try later this week again. I was targeting to use 750 points but used 800 for this run

[twilit chasm]

for example, in my case again, i planned to use geeta at a10 after knowing seed pattern, so i tried to find a boost benefitting her, which was when i found a boost based on status debuff at a5, so the boost can be repurchased later for more stacks

[timid hound]

Okay I recorded my botched palmer run

It's quite large, so maybe I should put it in its own thread

Eh I'll do it here — maybe others can look at it and see how scary Palmer is

[severe bronze]

its rally channel so its fine

[timid hound]

@severe bronze @simple frost
Boosts: +200% Champion +100% Johto
3/5 SSSteven EX Rolex LS Adrenaline 1
3/5 SSTRed EX Rolex LS CS2
1/5 NCHop EX LC SP3

[simple frost]

oh u got it

oh you went with quadqueue lolol

[severe bronze]

ok i can fix things a bit but idk if the damage will be enough

[timid hound]

I have to qq everything

[simple frost]

Damn

needs 1 more boost somehow

[severe bronze]

after red first sync > deoxys, chop zone, red bvolt tackle > chop bmove, bvolt, deoxys > red bvolt > chop zone > deoxys > sync > chop normal moves, bthunderbolt

[simple frost]

B Thunderbolt?

[severe bronze]

braineot

[twilit chasm]

bbolt

[severe bronze]

bvolt tackle

owoltackle

[simple frost]

I wonder if you can change Normal Zone to Fighting Zone before he max moves lulz.

[timid hound]

I'm at the gym now so I'll try this later

But any feedback is welcome

I doubt changing NZ > FZ will do much

Thats DPS loss

Ain't no way I'm squeezing in another hop move before max

[simple frost]

you really need a 3rd upgrade somehow hmm

[timid hound]

Yeah no it's impossible

Kekw

[twilit chasm]

[timid hound]

Just wanted to show y'all

But hey my quadqueueing is impressive right?

[simple frost]

very

Did you mirror ya phone to get the mouse clicking action? lol

[timid hound]

Mirror?

I used this thing

It's called my FINGERS

[twilit chasm]

does double team have sync accel?

[timid hound]

Only on first cast

[severe bronze]

oh wait yeah the one youre running is already optimal

i thought you couldnt use chop bmove after red 2nd sync

maybe squeeze a bit of deoxys dps and pray

[timid hound]

Cant

[twilit chasm]

so later double team is just to save gauge? i thought you can do some dps here with psycho boost but idk

[timid hound]

I need every frame

If I do Psycho Boost before Fighting Zone, it ruins QQ

[twilit chasm]

i mean earlier

[timid hound]

If I do Boost after, I waste frames and can't use chop bmove in fighting Zone

[twilit chasm]

like 0:41+

i barely use quadqueue so idk

[timid hound]

I can try but that ruins qq for some reason iirc

[twilit chasm]

3/5 hop then

[severe bronze]

yeah its tight with double bmove users

animation time

[timid hound]

Haha yeah

[severe bronze]

okay i think i know why i said this

[simple frost]

@timid hound how much points u got though?

[severe bronze]

apparently you cant cut chop bmove countdown if youre already finish 9 turns

[simple frost]

iirc wasn't your Hard fight against Lucy? lol

[severe bronze]

thought it was a bug for a moment

[timid hound]

Yes but point loss

This week is terribad for points

Field everywhere and I barely have any field rolex

[simple frost]

man same. I've got Field everywhere 😦

still waiting for SS May EXR :<

so i can go into Field Champion

[leaden wraith]

This week i got a Sprint focused one so i didnt have many chances to use many EXR + Palmer VH blocking me

So i feel that

[twilit chasm]

get geeta

[leaden wraith]

Sure, when she gets Support Sprint

Imagine having Rei

[timid hound]

I could sacrifice role bonus and use rei

Probably easy clear

But my pride would not allow that

[leaden wraith]

My pride would allow me to get down to H to end the suffering

[timid hound]

I refuse to be defeated by the likes of some old geezer!

[leaden wraith]

I got 8k5 so it doesn't hurt much, still it ended my 9k+ streaks tho

[timid hound]

If I don't VH I won't even make 8k hahaha

Field is rough for me

[leaden wraith]

That's unfortunate

[normal python]

We still have no old general pool units that have been updated with EXR right?

[leaden wraith]

Nope

Gen pool got blessed with 2 Support Tech

[oak jolt]

Sometimes is better to save 250 points from the shop and go Hard for a 10 if you can't fit 2x units

[oak jolt]

It said old, so I guess it meant ticket scout pool

[leaden wraith]

I can but i don't think SSA Cynthia, NCerena and Lodge Gladion can beat Palmer without overspending

[leaden wraith]

I think he already excluded Lenora and Tierno

[oak jolt]

I personally I consider ticket scout pool units basically f2p

[normal python]

Also Ryuki

[oak jolt]

But not stuffs like Olympia or drasna

[severe bronze]

at least you tried

[oak jolt]

Ironically I think fantina Is technically more f2p than Agatha, because you can still get fantina with ticket scout without spending a single gem, while I don't think you can get 4* gotcha units without ever spending a gem

[severe bronze]

almost got him

[timid hound]

Ya

All g

I did my best

Time to kill snake girl

[severe bronze]

really just missing damage multiplier to clear

[timid hound]

The lesson here is to not be greedy with your points

I could've gained 200 points

Instead I'm losing 200 points

[tiny pulsar]

Yay

[timid hound]

My life will never be the same

[oak jolt]

Once I mistakenly clicked normal instead of vh area 1 with 3.5x multiplier

[timid hound]

Were you surprised at how quickly they were defeated?

[oak jolt]

It was area 1 so I was expecting them to be easy, but yes it felt a bit too easy, sadly I just realized the mistake at the score calculation

[gentle maple]

Never do rally when tired, mistakes and rash decisions would be made

[timid hound]

Never do Rally when you feel anti-capitalistic

[oak jolt]

Yes I was quite tired when I did that run

[timid hound]

[severe bronze]

or check shop and pick up damage multiplier

[gentle maple]

I once default to hard even tho it was VH thorton because my brain forgot ss steven exist as a tank too

[oak jolt]

However 200 points spent isn't much

[timid hound]

Naw I did check shop

But I legit had 0 trouble A1-9

And my points were already rough this week since majority Field bonus and lack of Field Rolex

[severe bronze]

itll make your run smoother while also preparing for a10

[timid hound]

I thought I could preserve my total by skimping on shop

[severe bronze]

its good deal with only 50 pts

[timid hound]

Yes, once again I am reminded of my arrogation

Power Trip... was not very effective

Next time I'll use stored power

[severe bronze]

thats the spirit

[ebon valve]

I accidentally removed the link for this source doc from the pins, can you give me the full version?

[stark dawn]

thank god i saved it somewhere lol

https://twitter.com/yuge_pkms/status/1756943858922098847

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[ebon valve]

thanks

[gentle maple]

I have this saved too

[ebon valve]

Added the other EXRs this month to the graphic too.

https://i.imgur.com/S7NQrMi.png

[timid hound]

Sprintfield in shambles

[simple frost]

Kek

[timid hound]

So is strike field but just look to the right

[severe bronze]

support field :

[timid hound]

VThorton check

[ebon valve]

they know field exr is very good

[timid hound]

[ebon valve]

they've given it so far to people who already play with field. and then there's nate

[stark dawn]

And even Nate!

[gentle maple]

Very good thing to use to predict your possible areas if area 1 isn't enough in pomatools

[stark dawn]

you know you can still do it with pomatools

just input everything lol

[simple frost]

I think i'm gonna try andd grab Support/Fields 😄

new oness that just drop a bunch of field effects

[gentle maple]

I can but it's better to have the whole picture of possible seeds than just 1 at a time

[twilit chasm]

just do a1 then use pomatool

[severe bronze]

that triple psychic tech/support though

[twilit chasm]

im not gonna read that whole textwall smh (picturewall in this case ig?)

[stark dawn]

yeah tbf having to do area 1 and sometimes 2 is not that bad

[stark dawn]

wait you order them by type ?

[ebon valve]

yea

type -> exr release

[stark dawn]

eeeeeeeeeeh

[ebon valve]

Type Advantage?

I know it's easier to append to the end by release date.

and don't they look cute together

[stark dawn]

the blond ghost girls about to beat your ass

[simple frost]

too bad Anni Lillie needs a really substantial PB :x

[timid hound]

Can they beat Palmer's instead

[leaden wraith]

With 10 Ghost boosts sure

[timid hound]

[severe bronze]

[timid hound]

Maybe I should use apple cup

My points this week are so fked might as well try it once

The taste of the forbidden fruit

[stark dawn]

ultra jelly and choco cake

[muted sparrow]

[leaden wraith]

These won't appear when Palmer is on VH

[timid hound]

But Quick Cookies will

[severe bronze]

infinite normal zone will shop up instead

[muted sparrow]

[severe bronze]

[leaden wraith]

Speed Jelly says hello

[ebon valve]

I’m curious what gauge looks like with jelly

[stark dawn]

I really need good consumables this week

funnily enough outside of lucy my best shot at winning is palmer

[leaden wraith]

Darach when zone running out before his heat wave: 💀

[simple frost]

was that a Lucky Stage?

[stark dawn]

That's my area 10

Im stuck at 4 until friday

[simple frost]

waiting for someone to get their EX Role? Lol

[stiff flume]

Ok this is weird, I'm about to finish this BR and no other theme bonus ever appeared on my shop at all
Only powerups

[stark dawn]

Yeah, May

[stark dawn]

Thats some low odds damn

[simple frost]

I'm stuck to A2 😐

its Karen (Rock) from CSMM lulz

I wanna run SS May for it cuz its perfect for that battle

[stiff flume]

It feel so wrong
My starting was johto and grabbed crit powerup at least

[simple frost]

any crit buffs?

[stiff flume]

Yep, got that on a6

[stark dawn]

My starting is Bug this week, and I got one on sales on Area 1
I took it and commited to bug

[stiff flume]

vNolan from select 📈

[simple frost]

oh definitely nice... who was your A10?

[stark dawn]

yeah

and he's fun to play too

[stiff flume]

I'm Gonna grab him next time

[stiff flume]

Darach

[stark dawn]

I don't even know if I can beat Darach with cynthia rosa noland

[eternal nebula]

New highscore

[stark dawn]

400 points used

[fickle drum]

is lucy the easiest to clear? it’s just antitoxin and debuff speed; meanwhile argenta requires to counter like 5 different things

[normal python]

I think Lucy might be the easiest

[viral loom]

Lucy is just Antitoxin+Spd debuffs

You can slot Antitoxin for free win in any unit

So you only need to have a single sync pair than can drop Spd

VH lucy is a bless for points comps

She also hits very very low

What's even the unit that they had in mind for that stage?

[leaden wraith]

probably SC Adaman

[viral loom]

Really? Lucy released a lot earlier in BR than SCAdaman

[normal python]

Foxanne and V. Giovanni

Not SC Adaman IMO

[leaden wraith]

it's pretty normal to plan out stuff before relesing them to public

Adaman is immune to toxic, thanks to his innate burn

[normal python]

Eh, Foxanne + V. Giovanni to counter her speed buffs

And Foxanne has stat buff prevention field

[viral loom]

I would've thought they would have a counter unit that could protect everyone from status for the Sludge Wave

Someone with Status Condition Shield, maybe

Or passives like SSMina

[normal python]

https://tenor.com/view/melony-pokemon-pokemon-sword-and-shield-spin-gif-26121907

[viral loom]

That, but newer and more limited I guess

[normal python]

She has double screens at least

[leaden wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/volo-pokemon-hisui-legends-arceus-ginkgo-gif-14127291317977605109

[ebon valve]

Are new Battle Challenges being added to Br with each update? Or is it stuck with the initial set of stages it had when it debuted?

[leaden wraith]

i don't think the set has been updated at all

[viral loom]

Last update wiped my team from BR

So maybe this last one did add the new challenges?

Or is there another reason for that?

[ebon valve]

There was a fix for the type gear issue, but that didn’t wipe the teamslot when it was applied. I think for 2.43 they decided to make teamslot get wiped as a precaution.

In case there are other things you can adjust about a team in future updates.

[viral loom]

Ah, makes sense, indirectly I find it more comfy this way, not like anyone uses the same team that they used for an UB last week for a Round 1 battle

[stark dawn]

well i have to set my gears now

before i had electric gears set and i was never changing them lol

[wary kayak]

Fortunately that's easy, just Optimize: Electric

[static arch]

Game hates me. Tech/sprint on areas 8 and 10. Don't even think more than 2 of those units exist, and I have neither

[gentle maple]

1 exist as of now but soon 3

[static arch]

And I plan to use my tech/support heavy hitters on area 4....

[gentle maple]

I mean go ahead?

[static arch]

Yeah hopefully I get to use most of my double roles still. I guess the double roles that don't have a match on here I just save for area 10 if they are OP

[gentle maple]

Sprint tech area 10 seems pretty bad and anabel/palmer would likely default u to hard

Even argenta probably

Unless u have ss steven not Rolex yet or something

[static arch]

Yeah I don't plan to save my sprint/supports for area 10 so probably end up down a notch

[gentle maple]

Unless something like ultra jelly is in the store for a10

[glass parcel]

I really hate this. They shouldn't be giving this stages when there are hardly any sprint/ field units in the game. Not everyone has caked units as well.

[timid hound]

As much as I wanna say this is end game content (if you'd like to maximize profit/clear at hardest difficulty consistently), I will say that sprintfield role bonuses are evil and should not exist this early

Fk Sprintfield!

[static arch]

Does this effect last infinite time, every battle?

It is 50% sale for 125. Seems worth if it is infinite per battle each battle

[timid hound]

But what if the enemy only uses physical moves?

Then it would be effectively useless

[static arch]

I suppose most area 10 are mostly physical?

K I will skip

[timid hound]

I think it's not worth 125 points

What else is there in your shop?

[glass patrol]

“Endgame”

[stark dawn]

it's not super early game

but after a few weeks you can probably manage some runs

[glass parcel]

How is this endgame content? It's a weekly challenge and clearing it helps you cake your sync pairs! Sprintfield should be limited to 1 or 2 in the whole rally I say.

[gentle maple]

True end game is the sync orbs farming

[tame forge]

And spinning a 3d model 1000 times for some title

[static arch]

I ended up with 8,850 score. Not bad for steel upgrade as my default and heavy sprint

[kindred seal]

Imagine they had egg mons for sprint or field? Would be a literal game changer. Aren't all field and sprint units relegated to limited runs?

[heavy fjord]

So far, yeah

[eternal nebula]

I had Palmer at Area 10 so I had to use some

[stark dawn]

Fair

[oak jolt]

Luckily I got Anabel with support tech on area 10

Ended up using just 100 points

Bought 2 any stat down boosts

That's my favourite one after critical boost

[stark dawn]

I want to play my rallyyyyyy

[oak jolt]

Ended up rolexing NC Serena for those 150 extra points

Sadly I never get lucky stages

I only got one once since rally started

[stark dawn]

Some still never got it

[sweet mango]

i have more strike/field than strike/support

i got lucky area twice and those were the roles

[oak jolt]

I think the combo I have the most is tech support

[stark dawn]

well yeah you should have more tech support than anything else

it's the most common combo, some presets have 3 of them

[sweet mango]

i'm never giving tech cakes to supports

[sudden hull]

should i tech cake a support next

really sucks not having bonuses for that besides steven and oleana now

[stark dawn]

i already tech caked 3 supports

[oak jolt]

Same, I'm just giving support cake to techs

[sweet mango]

same

ss steven and nc leaf so far

[oak jolt]

Sprint is great for supports

[sweet mango]

i think i have all support/sprint

[oak jolt]

Strike is fine if they have something that affects the sync target

[sweet mango]

yeah like nc blue and penny

but i gave a strike cake to dahlia instead

i have 4 vouchers, 4 sprint cake coins, 12-13 field cake coins and 12 cake vouchers to get. i was told to cake 3/5 ss may instead of 1/5 anni may

[oak jolt]

The most useless ex role I think is NC calem, he isn't meant to do damage at all

[sweet mango]

he's the main support/tech i thought of

[oak jolt]

1/5 anni May has a terrible sync, if you plan to Rolex her you should candy her to 3/5

[sweet mango]

she is a fave

that i pitied

[oak jolt]

If she's a fave then another good reason to candy her to 3/5

[sweet mango]

maybe when i get one tech candy so i can use 1 tech candy 1 gen candy

[oak jolt]

I got her rolex since I'm short on field units

Plus field Rolex is the rarest by far, so there isn't much competition for field cakes

I guess that the most demanded ones are support and sprint

Lots of techs are just units with bad syncs

[sweet mango]

yeah

hopefully the candy/cake tier list will be updated soon

[oak jolt]

There are some busted units like NC red that got tech Rolex, but there are lots of stuffs like NC calem or Archie

[sweet mango]

anni lillie

ss red is good

[oak jolt]

Yes SS red is pretty good however it has mega striker sync, so the BP increase is marginal

With tech ex mega sync BP is still slightly worse than regular striker BP I think 288 BP vs 300 at 5/5

[topaz geode]

Hey So if I have E4 and main character buff will they both apply or only one??

[stark dawn]

TIL there are patterns that have no repeating role combo

Like this one

[glass patrol]

@quiet apex I was told to give you a cookie and I forgot to do so so I will do so now

For using maybun

[quiet apex]

Wanna hear something funny? After I got used to Rally’s setup I’ve used Maybunny in pretty much the majority of them. Her kooky kit makes her really helpful in it.

[glass patrol]

That is crazy

@dry sleet a true maybunny user

[dry sleet]

Insanity

Your brain needs to be studied

[glass patrol]

[stark dawn]

Guys, I found out something

All patterns are repeat of each other, except the ones that are role focused

[quiet apex]

It’s the fact there’s Striker + Non Support Rounds. 3/5 Maybunny bringing buffs, Potions, and Endurance makes her quite a nice pick.

[dry sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/itsalwayssunny-pepesilva-conspiracy-gif-19662447

[stark dawn]

[glass patrol]

The exact meme sprang to mind

[stark dawn]

but that means you can check your ex roles for each group, see the ones in which you are lacking and give ex roles accordingly

[stark dawn]

Here you go

[glass patrol]

Guh

[stark dawn]

oop missed something

If someone wants to do something that actually looks good, you have the info here

[glass patrol]

I don’t know what to do with this data

[stark dawn]

make a bunch of roles that you're missing from both the pink and purple groups

[stark dawn]

@thick mauve maybe you can come up with something good ? as well as adding the amount of each combination somewhere

[glass patrol]

Why is field sprint 37

Reeeee

[kindred seal]

For all your field and sprint units of course

Man that is some lopsided distribution

[austere cipher]

2nd time I got set c. With rock bonus. Please be anabel on a10 can't wait to debut exr silver

[sudden hull]

[oak jolt]

At least tech support is tied for most common

[austere cipher]

B4-b I like that set

https://tenor.com/view/bingchilling-gif-10067072887923246131

[oak jolt]

Any set with sprint field A10 is a crime against humanity

[sudden hull]

i only have ss steven and oleana

[thick mauve]

don’t really have the time tbh but I’ll look into it

[timid hound]

I did say to maximize profit and or clear at the hardest difficulty consistently

I don't see players starting 3 months ago getting 9k every week

[stray ravine]

it's like saying a new player should be able to 15k CS immediately

tbf with how strong pairs are these days, you can start doing that fairly quickly, but you get the idea

[timid hound]

Real

[cobalt furnace]

Idt the problem is sprintfield on its own, it’s that sprintfield is the most common boost combo

[carmine glade]

Give it until eos they’ll give us sprint field

[timid hound]

Isn't the most common boost combo support tech?

I remember someone asking that yesterday and that was the answer

[carmine glade]

Again

[leaden wraith]

support tech is the second place

[timid hound]

Oh they're the same

[ebon valve]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-ooh-me-likey-gif-18509610

[simple frost]

there we go @timid hound

i saw MPizza in A7 though

sadlife

[quaint star]

Normal upgrade. Not the worst one, I suppose

To dump three caked units or not

[simple frost]

eh who?

whose your A10 Fight?

[leaden wraith]

always maximize points income on a lucky stage

[simple frost]

or rather role bonus

[quaint star]

Strike + Sprint

[simple frost]

who do you have for Strike + Support? SS Lusamine and Zerena?

[quaint star]

Currently considering whether to go NC Blue, SS Lusamine and Zerena up to Area 5 least. Area 4 is gonna hurt tho

[simple frost]

rough. ;x
Up to you, you could always dip down ffrom VH A10 to H if you dont have ideal conditions to beat A10 VH

[quaint star]

I could technically have NC Blue as the tank for the rest of the run

[simple frost]

He's not role bonus for A4

[quaint star]

That's the only issue

[leaden wraith]

just use all 3 caked units on the lucky stage

the points gained will make up for the loss if you are forced to move down the difficulty

[simple frost]

if i were in your track, i would cake either Iono or Holiday Sycamore, and run those two with SS Lusamine lolol

[quaint star]

How much is the base for lucky stage again? 600?

[leaden wraith]

600 yes

[quaint star]

If only I had those

[ebon valve]

https://i.imgur.com/28moA3k.png

[simple frost]

Just go for it.

i'm sure you still have a sprint ex role support you could use up there

[ebon valve]

usually i will forgo a role bonus if it means keeping a streak unit like ncRosa going

[timid hound]

[ebon valve]

in your chase, someone like ncRed for every stage

[timid hound]

Nice nice

[simple frost]

i was hoping for Palmer to come out

he did, in Normal

i would've used Ash, SST Red and Zapdos again

[ebon valve]

like imagine if you got this, and your bonus was ice, kanto, mc or champion

[polar fable]

[quaint star]

Oh well

Gonna go yolo with triple cake then

I don't have any good tech-sprint to help with Area 4 anyway

[simple frost]

i'm patiently waiting for Nemona'ss EX Role. I feel like she's definitely getting Tech EX Role D:

[ebon valve]

she could probably use striker more

[ebon valve]

why are you skipping area 4? just leave your strike/caked and swap the other 2

[simple frost]

he wants to drag NC Blue from A2 to A5

[ebon valve]

so leave him in

[quaint star]

That's because Area 5 is also strike-support, and I only have 3 of them

[ebon valve]

the math usually works out that leaving him in for 0 is better than taking him out and not getting x2 in the other area

[quaint star]

Well, as you can see in the calculation I made, it doesn't even matter since my tech-sprint roster is non-existent

[ebon valve]

but why is the skip 0 for all roles, instead of 600

surely you can chuck in two techs

[quaint star]

If I chuck in two techs, I won't be able to use Zerena and Lusamine on Area 5 for 2x

Oh, I think I understand

[ebon valve]

When are they entering? From A1?

[quaint star]

Hold on

Starting Area 2

Since that's where I got the Lucky Stage

[ebon valve]

wow that's good

[quaint star]

Yes, actually got lucky this time, unlike Sprint-field lucky stage last time

[ebon valve]

well this is going at it hard

[quaint star]

Still, damn 2400...

[gentle maple]

Nice

[timid hound]

Real

Get that 10k

[quaint star]

0 upgrade but debuffs + flinch + triple MF buff helps. Yes, I know he's dead, Jim

It was a birb fight versus NC Leaf

[quaint star]

Oh right, since this was once a question before, guess it's now answered. NC Red got a cake to eat but no EX. Still gets to double dip

I mean, the likeliness of you not having EX but the cake is pretty eh...

[timid hound]

Where Brock EX?

[normal python]

What's an EX Brock?

[gentle maple]

why is nc red only lv 122

[timid hound]

Brock and Misty were the OGs and what did they get for it?

I demand justice

[quaint star]

Strike - Sprint versus Argenta. Yeah, I'm not doing this

Riley is really a life saver. Thanks DeNA

[kindred seal]

It really was those early stages that gave me a hard time. Got the Argenta battle for a10 but it was tech/support so easy Adaman and Elaine win

[stark dawn]

Norman on area 10 ?? damn

[quaint star]

When you get Normal Upgrade and your only options are Hugh and Norman, and you spent one of them

Good thing hard mode is a pushover

[stark dawn]

I want normal upgrade

can't be worse than bug anyway...

[quaint star]

Normal has good supports. It's getting Strike at A10 that hurts for most types

[stark dawn]

Sprint support on area 10 with bug upgrade

[glass parcel]

Yeah that's what I've been doing it but still can't maximize profit when it comes to sprint field and we don't even have those in gen pool yet so it's a bit frustrating to see that combo.

[glass parcel]

Well i recently did a 10k on csmm and it's not that quick given that I'm not a consistent player and I started the game 4 years back and haven't even logged in a year. But yeah it can be achieved if you are consistent and not f2p

[quaint star]

Bugsy time!

[stark dawn]

Nah, variety noland

[quaint star]

Lodge Dawn works too

Unless you attempt to go for triple cake

[stark dawn]

I need damage lol

Im doing double cake

Rosa Cynthia

[quaint star]

Well, you can try to wall it off with triple support, unless it's versus Palmer. If that was the case, good luck

[stark dawn]

Im waiting friday to progress so we'll see

[daring raptor]

Oof besides nc silver is there any other field/spirit units that can override sunny day?

[severe bronze]

paulo vgio

welp only those 2

[daring raptor]

guess nc silver vs anabel it is

[quaint star]

Is that even possible? Maybe with a debuffer

[carmine glade]

It’s possible

I did it in my run with silver against anabel

[timid hound]

I had the exact same scenario except I needed a strike unit that can override weather

The only one for me was... Rose, who I just pulled that day

[oak jolt]

Don't get why people really love maybun as support, she just buffs defense and speed, but I guess there aren't much strikers that can buff anything at all

[normal python]

C. Blue with Dire Hit All+

[oak jolt]

I guess maybe she's fine for fueling towering force or inertia and for a striker she has decent survivability

She really needs that support rolex to be a viable damage dealer

Maybe sprint would work too

[hybrid abyss]

nah, she needs support

[oak jolt]

Yes support would be ideal

[normal python]

Tech. Take it or leave it

[oak jolt]

I'll leave it

[normal python]

And as for SS Silver, he's gonna get field EXR

[oak jolt]

Field exr for damage dealers isn't bad, it saves you from zone setter

At least if your sync matches your main dps

[normal python]

Actually, I'm not even sure that SS Silver even has a bad EXR

[oak jolt]

I mean if an unit has a good sync, there's really not a bad exr

[normal python]

It's more like SS Silver has Adrenaline

[oak jolt]

The problem is more for units with bad syncs that just want something that adds value besides damage, like sprint, support or field

[carmine glade]

Give him sprint

[normal python]

You mean like Calem?

[carmine glade]

Cd -5

[oak jolt]

Yes like NC calem

[carmine glade]

SS silver sprint gaming

[oak jolt]

Tech is completely useless on him

[carmine glade]

What

He is tech

[hexed patio]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855438548684374045/1069103333429747752/image-2.png

[normal python]

Meh

[carmine glade]

A bad exr really doesn’t matter

It’s more rally options

[oak jolt]

Was talking about NC calem

Tech exr is completely useless for an unit that has no sync multiplier and really low attack stat

[severe bronze]

it still hurts though

support/tech ideally isnt really that bad of a combo if they just had a sync multiplier on their grid

since they want to sync anyway for support buff and an extra damage wont hurt

[normal python]

They gave him that because they want him to be bulkier

[oak jolt]

Problem is that most supports don't have much attack and they tend to have bad syncs regardless

Supports like misty would like tech exr

[normal python]

So what would've been the best EXR for him?

Sprint?

[oak jolt]

Sprint or field

Probably field if it worked with both types

If field worked with both types it wouldn't even be in that akward aura Cynthia position where you can't sync with her without messing with your zone if you aren't using her with fighting comp, since rain and dark zone are two different kinds of wtz

Unlike NC Serena that can't really have a bad exr

[severe bronze]

if they really want to just give him stats then field does the same

[tribal sorrel]

My new record! Set 17 with lucky lol

[mental raft]

My best score till now.
Great thing is I had to spend less this time..

It might sound stupid but A10 Hard is Harder than A10 VH battle!
That Entei (or whatever) at Hard level not taking any damage!

Instead, with a Chocolate Guard Very Hard battle against Seviper felt very easy lol...

[carmine glade]

Anabel gimmicks are more annoying than Lucy

[mental raft]

Yeah it sucks

!

[glass patrol]

That’s because Mr entei and ms Annabel requires rain and copious amounts of defensive debuffs, you need constant spdef and def lower or some other stat to compensate

[heavy fjord]

yeah Anabel is a giant pain in general

[normal python]

As worse or even worse than Palmer?

[sudden hull]

id argue worse

cuz you cant really supplement debuffs from items but you can supplement dps unless you get harsh sundae from shop

[gentle maple]

I will say palmer is worse the more u get used to rally since by then u will want to spend less points for the theme boost

[sudden hull]

well anabel requires debuff or piercing blows

[gentle maple]

Essentially a checkmate once u get to palmer with very little theme boost unless your roles etc lines up

[sudden hull]

palmer can be beat by role boosting

[sudden hull]

well thats just masochism

[gentle maple]

How is it masochism when u know palmer has like 1/6 chance

Also there are clears with 2-3 theme boost only

[sudden hull]

masochism as in not taking theme boosts