Battle Rally

[timid hound]

[west abyss]

Is that the stage for NY Dawn/Lisia?

[timid hound]

I think so

[west abyss]

Mm team antitoxin for the poison, feather dance for the attack debuffs

[leaden wraith]

my A10 is Anabel, but no good weather changer to beat her before she destroys everything

[stark dawn]

wait they have entry ?

[timid hound]

I have sprint tech

[stark dawn]

I just beat them and I didn't notice lol

[timid hound]

This week is painge

[karmic briar]

Could have been way worst

[muted sparrow]

You leave me no choice other than sleep cheese

Should i buy this ?

I got Alola upgrade so

[quiet tiger]

I think Rosa > Cynthia > Rei for Syncs is the way

[karmic briar]

With double hs1 on Cynthia btw

[muted sparrow]

Yes, but i got Alola upgrade rn so i cant deal enough dmg

[quiet tiger]

Okay then trade Rosa out for an Alolan Support

[muted sparrow]

That why i ask should i buy this

[leaden wraith]

[quiet tiger]

It's only 100 points and Palmer is the defacto hardest UB anyway

[muted sparrow]

Still dont know how Arch got over 10k without Lucky Stage

[west abyss]

You're so close

[stiff flume]

Tastier cakes 🍰

[muted sparrow]

The Popcorn got Sale just so good for me

[stiff flume]

I bought the chocolate damage guard thing, it's so funny

[muted sparrow]

The one use item is so good, but we only use them on last Area

[stiff flume]

Yeah, I had base dark powerup and that bonus

Literally killed argenta 5k by 5k

She had 8 sync buffs

But if the average is exactly 9k we can cover tickets+ + well enough

[muted sparrow]

Yeah, Energy thing is so expensive

[arctic jasper]

The best I got was 9k

[cobalt jackal]

Hey everyone,quick question.What happens if you retire during the battle rally?will you still get the gems?

[stiff flume]

You lose 80% of your bonus
Never retire

[cobalt jackal]

So no gems from missions as well?

[stiff flume]

Yes, it says complete

Also idt anyone tried to retire just to verify

[cobalt jackal]

Heh

[rustic dagger]

someone mightve on an alt

[cobalt jackal]

Heheh

I accidentally retired....

No gems

Welp

[rustic dagger]

yikes

i do wonder how u accidentally retire

[stiff flume]

Accidentally?

[cobalt jackal]

RIP 300 gems

[muted sparrow]

[stiff flume]

Sound like you did just now to try lol

[cobalt jackal]

I got ground buff..

[stiff flume]

Btw, 300 gems aren't worth dunping a whole rally

[stiff flume]

And? You can buy other powerups

[arctic jasper]

Lel

[stiff flume]

The shop refresh with new bonus after each stage, just look and pick what you want
Also you only need 1 Ground unit to trigger the bonus for the whole team, quite sure you can manage it early

[cobalt jackal]

Well,i guess now everyone knows that DO NOT RETIRE during battle rally

[stiff flume]

We already knew I think

I mean, 80% loss, remember that

[cobalt jackal]

Ya,that hurts as well

Oh well,thx for 'answering' my question

Ill try my best during battle rally

[simple frost]

even if you can't do VH, just do Hard with as many points as possible 😮

[severe bronze]

another week of no lucky area

and bad rng bonus

rolex unit that didnt get 2.0x multiplier this week: nc blue, zerena, nc rosa, ssa cynthia, paulo, nc red

[stark dawn]

Those do not exist

It's just a fabrication in people's mind

Im sure of it

[severe bronze]

[simple frost]

i got 2 back to back lucky stage for 2 weeks. guess i didnt get one this week xD

[stark dawn]

Bruh

[heavy fjord]

Still yet to get one myself

[severe bronze]

must be nice

[stark dawn]

You're not alone

[heavy fjord]

Maybe this will be the week

I can always cope it will

[severe bronze]

i got baited with the slow role combo reveal

feels bad man

[stark dawn]

Last week I got baited

THRICE IN A ROW

[severe bronze]

[quiet tiger]

[simple frost]

Noice!

too bad no strike/tech for Cynthia ;_;

[leaden wraith]

Damn even good bonus roles too

[simple frost]

i would've slapped NC Red, and 2 strikes or 2 techs in that area 9 kuku

[nimble schooner]

BR is done for the week!

Area 10 was Palmer for me and I had Rei, NC Rosa and Paulo

Couldn't survive past his sync so I just did Hard against Argenta

Palmer truly a menace

[pseudo egret]

Hmmm, should I take this?

Or wait until I get the crit boosted instead

This one sucks on whiffed syncs

[severe bronze]

yea thats good

probably the best damage multiplier

[heavy fjord]

thats one of the best things you could get, yes

[severe bronze]

since you want to buff crit for every area

[quiet tiger]

Had Hall 10.Argenta with Support/Field. Best score yet

[muted sparrow]

@leaden wraith did you ever see this ?

[simple frost]

Its cheap and strong 😄

[plush anchor]

I am scared to look at my set

Last 2 weeks were sad

[lost cliff]

Am I dumb or

It says area 3 should be strike sprint but it's field sprint

[plush anchor]

You did the 3rd one wrong

[lost cliff]

No, once I put in field it auto completed it

It wouldnt even let me put in sprint as an option for round 3

[plush anchor]

After you put 2

It gives you the option to put 3rd one

[lost cliff]

And I did

[heavy fjord]

you put in strike instead of field then

[west abyss]

Your Area 3 is wrong

[lost cliff]

Ohhh

[west abyss]

Which is manual input

[rustic dagger]

the one i posted is the correct one

[lost cliff]

Alright sorry

[plush anchor]

This start... Already scares me shitless

Please don't be sprint strike next

Please don't be sprint strike next

[muted sparrow]

Well you’ll get 2 Field/Sprint no matter what

[pseudo egret]

Is this who I think it is?

Headstart 1 Bertha?

[plush anchor]

[leaden wraith]

I dont think so

[leaden wraith]

Nope HS one is Steel weak

Ice weak Bertha only has sand and increased poison chance

[plush anchor]

I don't want to do the first stage
My life depends on 2nd stage
Sigh
Why do dis to me game
I want a lucky stage as compensation for my sanity

[crisp token]

Aesthetic

[pseudo egret]

Any gimmicks here?

I prefer not committing to hoenn buffs

He hits really hard

[simple frost]

what's your bonus + what's your upgrades?

[pseudo egret]

Hoenn upgrade, for context

Absolutely trash for area 10

Since I don't have any hoenn strikers that can reasonably survive VH

looking at you Zinnia

So if I commit to hoenn now

I'll be in big trouble

[simple frost]

is Akari your only Field? o-o

or a Support/Strike?

cuz tbh, you need a tank

or some way to change Psychic Terrain into Grass Terrain if its active.

[pseudo egret]

I actually have a lot of hoenn techs though

[pseudo egret]

She is, I wasn't playing when they gave out spectrier

[stark dawn]

Do you have NC Blue

[pseudo egret]

Also no

Don't have any of the anni 4 pairs

[stark dawn]

oof

[pseudo egret]

[timid hound]

What's Argenta's gimmick again?

Inflict rebuff?

Adaman check?

[simple frost]

Rain - Infinite Psychic Terrain

[stark dawn]

need to apply a status change

[simple frost]

And yes, Adaman works.

[timid hound]

Great

[stark dawn]

and rain (psychic terrain doesn't really matter)

[timid hound]

Perf

[simple frost]

she removes the rebuff at 50%

[pseudo egret]

So now what ha

[simple frost]

she also summons rain again at 50%

[pseudo egret]

Plumeria flinch fishing?

[simple frost]

you COULD not buy anything, and do hard. its rough ;<

[leaden wraith]

you must change Steven's terrain

Volkner as a tank doesnt sound bad

how about checking the shop first? to see if there is a better available boost

you should check the shop after every stage

[pseudo egret]

That's the first thing I did Gakon

It wasn't great

But anyways flinch fished it successfully

[timid hound]

Oh wtf Argenta removes rebuff at 50%

Oops

Restart time

[pseudo egret]

Here's area 9

I think at this point

There's no choice but to commit to Hoenn?

I checked the shop after every stage

And my options in previous previous stages were

Bug boost

And rock boost

[leaden wraith]

[leaden wraith]

you have to debuff his spatk and prevent paralysis

[pseudo egret]

Yeah so the real question is

Do I commit to buying a hoenn boost?

At Area 10, even if I can pivot to another region

It would only be 1 stack

[leaden wraith]

maybe try with no buying first?

[pseudo egret]

...well, well, well.

If it isn't anabel.

[leaden wraith]

[pseudo egret]

So...

Here's my two options:

[leaden wraith]

i would just move to H

[pseudo egret]

H on 3x boost (2.0 + 1.5 + 1.5)

Or VH Anabel on 2.5x boost (2.0 + 1.5x) + a lot of buffs

Would SS Gladion 3/5 EX + Akari + Deoxys defense EXR work on VH anabel though

[leaden wraith]

doing H gives more points and im sure your A9 team can beat H Thorton up with 1 buff

[leaden wraith]

nope, not even close

[pseudo egret]

Does Thorton really, really need rebuff?

[leaden wraith]

yes

thats why NC Rosa is good

[pseudo egret]

Because its field strike

[leaden wraith]

i forgot about it

is there any boosted unit having rebuffs?

[pseudo egret]

Filtered on rebuff? No

[leaden wraith]

the filter doesnt count effects from passives

so you might miss someone

[leaden wraith]

sadly no rebuff there

so yeah NC Rosa is the only option

[pseudo egret]

Dropping to H

And then dropping another 100

[leaden wraith]

[simple frost]

No Zerena?

[pseudo egret]

No

I wish I had her

But no

Wasn't playing

When she came out

[simple frost]

If you do Hard, you can run Solgaleo and just cut through the stage lol.

[pseudo egret]

Tragedy, but unsurprising

[simple frost]

oh right, asingle upgrade boost ooof.

[pseudo egret]

Is 13.2k doable in the next two weeks?

[simple frost]

if you hit 6.8k next week and 6.8k the week after that.

[pseudo egret]

Wait no it's 12.8k

I have 450 medals rn

6.4k sounds doable

[simple frost]

nodsnods

my points are normalizing at least. so i can hit 7k-ish per week

i still buy a lot of upgrades though :x

[pseudo egret]

At least this run is a personal low spend

I only spent 150 points

[plush anchor]

Well
This is the lesser evil.
I'll take it.

[pseudo egret]

Slot Riley for the first two

Slot NC Rosa from area 5 or sth

Forfeit your bonuses

[ebon valve]

I got sprint + field as well. Gotta do Stage 1 to see the rest.

[plush anchor]

I really didn't want it to be Sprint strike

Thankfully

That's what happened

I hope you get the easier one too

I can fit a good amount of
2.0 in this one so I ain't complaining.

[ebon valve]

Drastic Parfait finally on sale!!!... in Area 1 🫠

[static arch]

My only issue with BR is that I feel I can't do it on the go while also maximizing role multipliers

Gotta have spreadsheet in front of me to plan lol

[lost cliff]

aw yeah woo yeah

[plush anchor]

You only need to wing it first 1-3 stages though

After that

Plan time

[static arch]

Yes but I need to visualize the 10 teams in a spreadsheet

Otherwise I'll miss dual role opportunists

[stark dawn]

Really not ngl

Had to plan from area 1 since I got support sprint

SSAC NC Rosa area 1

[ebon valve]

the pinned image doesn't help?
https://i.imgur.com/5QmtI2K.png

[polar fable]

Is this good? I got 2 sinnoh electric and ground upgrades + ground at the start, had to do hard for a10 because I couldnt beat palmer

It was support and sprint so rosa/rei worked but couldnt use chop and dont have ssac

[stark dawn]

It's pretty good

[static arch]

Nah my spreadsheet just gives me comfort

[ebon valve]

I mean, I just use the in-game filter to see who has x2 bonus.

depends on the stage line up, if you want to do planning.

[static arch]

Sure but you have to plan which areas are best if they get x2 bonus in multiple spots. Or rather maybe a unit great for area 10 like sereninja is better for 4 consecutive +0.5 than a +1.0 in 1 level only

[timid hound]

Trial Giver Upgrade is the worst

[plush anchor]

I forgive you, game.
Don't ask who that is.
I committed a crime.

[crisp token]

Is that NC Calem

[plush anchor]

Don't ask

[arctic jasper]

Which means yes

[pseudo egret]

Go get that bread jo

And by bread I mean roll cake

[muted sparrow]

Better than non Ex Elaine

[plush anchor]

How dare you

[plush anchor]

You're a NC Calem Techer ain't you

[west abyss]

Incredibly based

Tech Calems rising 🤝

[leaden wraith]

~~dont get me wrong, BR is the sole reason i cake Calem ~~

[west abyss]

You have tech'd calem too?

[leaden wraith]

i literally caked him during the first BR week

[west abyss]

You never told me

[thick mauve]

[leaden wraith]

you just forgot

[thick mauve]

about to spend my stash, might need some 2nd opinions

[plush anchor]

Welcome to another episode of I fucked up

0 sprint units left
Time to go no damage

[thick mauve]

time for nuke Dawn

[leaden wraith]

SS Brendan nuke real

[west abyss]

[leaden wraith]

no thats Ethan

[proven matrix]

How do you guys maximize the points you get? I got a pretty good roll today with Kalos and a good chunk of double bonuses but I still got a low score without spending in the shop, so I'm wondering how you guys use units that are 2.0x bonus. Do you use them early or use them late?

[severe bronze]

look at the sheets and gamble basically

some role combo repeat

some are not

[plush anchor]

Well
That worked out somehow

[proven matrix]

I do

I have pomatools on my tab next to me and I plan ahead

[arctic jasper]

Gamble is a thing in gacha

[severe bronze]

like i gamble today

[arctic jasper]

I got a2-b

[severe bronze]

its between a4-a or a4-b

[arctic jasper]

But I’m rehearsing

[oblique breach]

My Fairy Upgrade sucks

[severe bronze]

i immediately use my field/strike on stage 1

[arctic jasper]

So I can’t play

[proven matrix]

I got B2 which isn't terrible

[arctic jasper]

As long as you have supports who nuke

[proven matrix]

💀

[severe bronze]

like for b2 if you have cerena and ccalem or any tech support rolex just drop them at area 5

[proven matrix]

That's what I did

Lol

[severe bronze]

you can always pick hard on ub area

[proven matrix]

That's also what I did

And I still got pretty low

No spending

[arctic jasper]

How much?

[severe bronze]

like how much

[proven matrix]

uh

7k ish

[arctic jasper]

That’s not bad

[severe bronze]

should definitely rolex more unit then

[proven matrix]

I average 8k on other weeks

[arctic jasper]

F2P be like

The best I can get is 9k

[proven matrix]

Probably but I don't really feel like rolexing supports, except a select few

[severe bronze]

im getting roughly 8.5k/week if no area bonus and i have 12 rolex now

[proven matrix]

Support ex with tech role is meh to me outside of rally

[severe bronze]

it is

[arctic jasper]

Agreed

[severe bronze]

i dont even have a single support/tech rolex

[leaden wraith]

do tech/support instead

[proven matrix]

real

[severe bronze]

thats what i did

[arctic jasper]

I’ve got tech+support like nc leaf instead

[proven matrix]

Thank you Gakon

Probably got unlucky this week

W/e

[west abyss]

Tech CCalem is the way (For legal reasons this is unfortunately a joke)

[thick mauve]

[west abyss]

[crisp token]

No

Own it

Stand proud

[severe bronze]

hes never taking my tech candy

[crisp token]

Embrace Support Tech meta

[severe bronze]

i mean coins

[crisp token]

37 stages

All for you

[plush anchor]

Nooooo
I got VH Palmer
Ughhhhh

[thick mauve]

[west abyss]

The mods will get me

[severe bronze]

i hope ss kris and nc bede get better treatment

[arctic jasper]

Congrats

[simple frost]

Whose ur hard?

[normal python]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-chocolate-ive-been-trying-gif-14334977

[arctic jasper]

For not getting field and sprint for lucky area

[plush anchor]

Darach

[normal python]

Good thing I have NC Red and SS Roxie

[plush anchor]

If only I listened to myself and bought extra Supereffective up

I would have dealt with this

[normal python]

Damn, 2100 points

[muted sparrow]

Yes

[plush anchor]

I can't do VH unless I apple

Haha

Fml

[thick mauve]

buy it

[arctic jasper]

Think how you beat it in ub and do the same thing

[plush anchor]

2 x 2.0 vs VH + Apple better or
2 x 2.0 vs H without apple?

[arctic jasper]

Hard without apple

Definitely

[plush anchor]

I beat Palmer before in VH, but this time I am actually stuck

[arctic jasper]

Hard without apple gives you more point

[plush anchor]

For real?

[leaden wraith]

yep, check the pins for detailed calc

[arctic jasper]

Yeah just do the calculation

[plush anchor]

Ooh in pins lets look

[ebon valve]

Score = Base x {1 + 0.5n}
n = number of roles matching the bonus

[plush anchor]

Ye I gots it

[plush anchor]

Basically with Apple option is 550 for me
While no apple is 700

[wary kayak]

300×3 -500 = 400 net
Vs
200×3 -0 = 600

Oh, there's another role match in there?

[plush anchor]

Unfortunately I lose on like 350 because I can't do Palmer unless I give up on my extra double roled unit

Let's do some quick maths

Wait

I can try with only 1x 2.0

Would get me more

Brb

[wary kayak]

(I loathe how PMEX says it's, like, 1.5× per pair when it definitely does not calculate the reward rate that way)

[languid citrus]

Yea the math is SO weird

But it’s also the same as the reward boosts

[wary kayak]

The math is simple, they just portray it 100% wrong

[languid citrus]

From generic events

[thick mauve]

the math ain't mathing

[wary kayak]

If they changed it to say "+X%" there would be ambiguity in how to interpret that, but at least one of the interpretations would be correct

[ebon valve]

not sure how I feel about this

[muted sparrow]

Get Field/Sprint always a L

[static arch]

What do you call a low score? Its easy to plan where to get double role bonus as long as you can beat area 10

[ebon valve]

I look at the rally role dist I got, and check where all my 2.0x can go. And will typically throw them at the later stages if I can help it. If they come early than that's fine. Using ncBlue on Area 1 for a double? Perfectly valid.

[proven matrix]

so i got sprint support at area 8 and 10, and the only ones i have for 2.0 are aura cynthia and nc rosa, and i threw them in area 10 instead of 8. Would it have been better to put one in 8 and on in 10, since they both would get the boost regardless?

or would have i used both of them earlier in area 8?

[ebon valve]

that'd depend on if you did vh10 or just hard

[proven matrix]

hard on 10

realized apple cup is not the way

[ebon valve]

let's see:
8: 300 x {1 + 4n} = 900 (if you used both in 8)
10: 200 x {1 + 4n} = 600 (if you used both in 10)

[plush anchor]

The struggle

[proven matrix]

i see

[plush anchor]

This the better one in my opinion

[ebon valve]

and if you split them:
8: 300 x {1 + 2n} = 600
10: 200 x {1 + 2n} = 400

I need to correct the calc, if you had other matching roles.

[muted sparrow]

That seem like my set

[proven matrix]

understandable

i now know what to do next week

[muted sparrow]

I used both NC Rosa and SSA Cynthia on Area 8

And sleep cheese through Area 9

[plush anchor]

I know the price I have to pay.

[ebon valve]

So yeah, match the role as much as possible in area 1-9, and especially if you get a lucky stage.

[proven matrix]

i got no luckies so far since the mode was introduced

but i'll plan ahead better next time for sure

thanks

[sharp haven]

Fml

[ebon valve]

SST Red run

[muted sparrow]

THREE Field/Sprint

[proven matrix]

sstred's dream

[sharp haven]

Who are the support/tech combo out there?

[proven matrix]

that might be goated

[heavy fjord]

NC Serena, SS Steven, like 50% of all supports ever

[sharp haven]

Good thing is that the default powerup is main character. So yeah, SSTRed run it is

[ebon valve]

there's a pinned graphic with the role bonuses

[quiet tiger]

Make sure to grab max Conduct and save those Electric Terrains for the UB

[muted sparrow]

And reset fot Tm mpr

[quiet tiger]

Might not even need that with Supports

[proven matrix]

dena why

[static arch]

You could potentially have just used both of them in both and took a 0.0 in area 9 depending on whether you had double roles available for whatever 9 asked for

Though I suppose that isn't different than just having all 0.5 in 9 and 10 for those 2 slots

[gentle maple]

Actually got the same set as last week

Argenta instead of thorton so a bit harder

[proven matrix]

brug

[oblique breach]

ehrm...

[hasty marlin]

am i doing something wrong here? why isnt this clearing ?

tried defense forme and speed forme

[leaden wraith]

the stage has higher atk than normal

[static arch]

I got this....do we even have units with sprint/tech dual role?

[leaden wraith]

Archer

[arctic jasper]

Yeah I have this stage as well now

[leaden wraith]

the pins also got this covered

[static arch]

I forget where pins are on mobile when viewing Battle Rally subgroup

[west abyss]

+pins

[hexed patio]

See below on how to check channel pins!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/957144362624634931/1214133872238006322/Pins.mp4?ex=65f80148&is=65e58c48&hm=d8247fb102d7ec6d463261c3b599c2ba2f79684f46b889c1dcc267864409f546&

[static arch]

Nevermind it is in settings now I swear it used to be different

[ebon valve]

this recording is really messed up

[static arch]

So yeah i got one where I can't get dual roles on 8 and 10. Very unfortunate

[jovial hatch]

I really wanted to try this battle rally without relying on Mix Red, but literally using mix all 10 battles is my best option lmfao

[hasty marlin]

finally beat the stage, had to rely on attack forme

to get it to be presync

...ok this is REALLY REALLY REAAAAAAAAALLY tempting guys

poison zone works for geeta, spatk down works for gladion

[ebon valve]

is it just for 1 stage?

like area 10

[muted sparrow]

Do you know who is on Area 10 Yet ?

[hasty marlin]

nope! but i dont got much better for strike sprint lmao

especially when i have to shove alola down its throat

[muted sparrow]

Like what if you meet

[hasty marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/guess-ill-die-gif-9704573

dont think i have strike weather

[hybrid abyss]

Got him Rolexed just for LG, only for his value to rise in BR

[west abyss]

[plush anchor]

For the first time
i didn't do a VH stage

[hasty marlin]

fitting bp candice would be near impossible so anabel would be death

[plush anchor]

It is what it is

[hasty marlin]

my best bet would be stacking poison zone or spatk damage now and praying i can do it with geeta

ima just do spatk down cause ncblue does that too

also dear arceus this stage sounds torture

isnt this like, teapot or some shit

[hybrid abyss]

Looks like it

[static arch]

Is there any downside to using my 2 extra rally tickets now vs later? Since the extra points roll over through the months

[hasty marlin]

not really imo

other than you might have more caked units later

[static arch]

Oh yeah that was it, I forgot

[hasty marlin]

OH NO

OH DEAR ARCEUS NO PLEASE NO

SS GLADION BC ALREADY??????

IS THAT WHAT IT IS

[leaden wraith]

look like they update the roster monthly

wait thats not Gladion BC

its Bede's BC

[normal python]

Another new record

[hasty marlin]

thank god i had flashbacks of the ebe noivern

[normal python]

Unironically, me getting field/tech was the best thing

[hasty marlin]

soooo whats Bede's BC gimmick, gakon

[normal python]

Holy shit, I got Kanto upgrade

[arctic jasper]

I didn’t beat even one of them

Decided it’s too long

[leaden wraith]

spatk debuff and status block iirc

you can always check the pins for info on pastebins

[hasty marlin]

would you tank with 2/5 ssac or 1/5 anabel?

[arctic jasper]

Ssac without doubt

[hasty marlin]

so ssac1 anabel2 geeta3 tactic?

trying to use anabel as my alola slot

[normal python]

I wonder, what's the best region theme boost for you guys?

[west abyss]

Kalos/Kanto

[arctic jasper]

Kanto definitely

[normal python]

Me too for Kanto

[arctic jasper]

There’s nothing better than Kanto

[normal python]

Damn, I must be real lucky

[arctic jasper]

Best character is main character

Type is electric

[hasty marlin]

alola, kalos, unova probably

since those have most favs

[gentle maple]

Anything that isn't poison, steel, fairy or trial giver

[normal python]

Fairy isn't bad TBH

Oh wow, I even got Electric Moves Up too

From the shop

[gentle maple]

Actually wait yeah fairy isn't bad

Got ground this week tho game knows my weak spot

[normal python]

Should I buy both the Kanto and Electric Moves: Up from the shop?

My last area is support/field

[arctic jasper]

Yes if u need them

[normal python]

Which means NC Blue + SST Red

[arctic jasper]

For field you can use sst red who benefits from both

Ahh you’re right

[normal python]

Holy damn, I actually pulled the big one

[gentle maple]

I think Kanto boost is enough

If u are using NC blue and SST red u won't be needing a lot of boost

[normal python]

Not if it's VH Palmer

[gentle maple]

Might still be doable

Bring elesa or something to accel your own sync fast

[normal python]

I guess, SST Red's nuke might be more than enough

[gentle maple]

Against palmer its a race

Anyways now that rally and CS for me is done back to farming Togepi title

[prisma gyro]

This one doesn't seem too bad. I caked ss steven and the frogs for the 2 support+tech areas

I have 2 support+sprint and 3 support+strike. Did some calc and the optimal multiplier for area 8 to 10 is +7x. Maybe.

[jovial hatch]

I'll take it!

So should I be getting a 13/7 ratio on voucher/power up or just all vouchers first

[stark dawn]

For legal reason this is unironically a good choice

[prisma gyro]

Did a check and realized I've caked all of my pairs with ex role, except Riley. Just for battle rally.

Hope that'll pay off in the long run

[west abyss]

I'm not going to like the reasoning behind this but I'll allow it

[gentle maple]

My only support tech will be Elaine

Unless..

[hasty marlin]

is there any boss where inf fairy zone might be necessary

or is it not worth

[heavy fjord]

never necessary, no

would probably be nice for Darach

[prisma gyro]

Are there any tools for more detailed planning for br?

Beyond showing all roles for each area in pomatool

[ebon valve]

you can do what rhythm showcased up there, and make an excel with your own ex role pairs

[prisma gyro]

... i'm too lazy to deal with excel/ggsheets on the phone

[ebon valve]

I just use the sync pair tracker to filter out my owned pairs and use seperators

example:

[prisma gyro]

Imma do it in my head, like i always did

[ebon valve]

https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/

[prisma gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-markiplier-gif-14835823

[stark dawn]

For Rally it's just great to have supports with other roles

And for LG it allows for easier solos

[proven matrix]

nc Calem on Moltres

[hasty marlin]

Darach.

Is four poison zones enough?

Or do I need to keep Cynthia in?

[stark dawn]

Try it

If you lose you can always take her back

[hasty marlin]

Me forgetting how strong rock slide se9 is:

not bad, considering the disaster that is A4

not enough x2s on the map to go much higher

its only week 1 and im already at 8/20 vouchers and all emptied

not bad

unused exrs: SS Serena, Lussamine, NCBlue, NYWallace. cause no double matches and werent needed

really like how hard of a darach counter geeta is. https://tenor.com/view/work-pile-of-rocks-pile-of-work-umbrella-burried-gif-14483669

i dont think theres a combination where i can struggle at all on darach due to her

since she covers probably the weakest combos i could have for that fight

i might mess around in some UB stages later to see what else she can pulverize

[ebon valve]

just need to figure the gauge ~~guess I'm bad ~~

[hasty marlin]

fwiw I think strike support was my worst Darach combo before

[karmic briar]

Tm MPR on SSAcerola

[dense latch]

Isn't this one the one you need grass rebuff? Ig you can just go ice rebuff

No hail nc red though 🥹

[ebon valve]

you need rebuff, terrain, and weather.

it's annoying

[dense latch]

Skill issues. Why you don't got Ludicolo

[karmic briar]

Bc rain is the only weather you don’t need

[prisma gyro]

Anyone know what stage this is?

[hasty marlin]

I’m tempted to say ssethan but it’s prob not that…

[prisma gyro]

Galar flying physical

[sudden heron]

Battle facility foe bonus

[hasty marlin]

Flying physical…

[hybrid abyss]

AltGloria..? That can’t be right…

[prisma gyro]

Stadium gloria?

Yeah that fits

[hasty marlin]

Only flying weak doesn’t sound right

They don’t always match the enemy region with yours

[prisma gyro]

Ugh so annoying. I planned out my roles perfectly and then weird gimmicks ruin it

[hasty marlin]

I was tempted to say summer Liza but sides would be steel

Iirc

[ebon valve]

[prisma gyro]

Monkey has wise entry x2 too, so leon can't be too effective

[tame forge]

[hasty marlin]

digging through the EBE/CB repository and unless this wasnt documented, its not gloralt

isnt in august section

im gonna look up the event directly to be safe tho

yeah gloralt was hear the cheers and thats dragon sides fighting mid

so its not that

[prisma gyro]

Pal elesa?

[hasty marlin]

yep

its pal elesa

what a weird as hell character for that to be, considering its a metronome unit

[prisma gyro]

I think victor's the food judge for that event. Or sth

[quiet tiger]

He indeed was

It even started something of a ship between Mallow and Victor because Lana made a reference to the old story about Applins

[hasty marlin]

im just meaning, its a single weakness.

when its metronome or fly

[quiet tiger]

Pal Elesa has Fly I guess

Also SuperEffective damage multipliers so they'd want to try to get players to use those instead of relying on Rock Slides or Sludge Bombs

[hasty marlin]

BOTH moves are kinda "uhhhhhh" there imo

considering he apparently also had wise x2

slot machine or "haha sync countdown is fucked" def sounds like a not fun fight

[prisma gyro]

Made it through with zerena but now everybody is half dead

[hasty marlin]

how many pots left?

cause zerena can demolish lucy with a ground grid + status immunity tile

if youve got pots left youre fine

[prisma gyro]

0 potions

[hasty marlin]

[prisma gyro]

Monkey did too much damage

[hasty marlin]

serena in like 3 seconds then:

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-skeleton-meme-man-skeletron-fortnite-gif-8574616040851063459

sludge wave intensifies

[prisma gyro]

Awww she starts with aoe too?

[hybrid abyss]

might want to buy one of those BV items

[prisma gyro]

That sucksssss

What's a ground grid? Just adding to thousand wave bp?

[hasty marlin]

well you have support at least, if you have enough items something goofy like Sycamore vampire could work

[prisma gyro]

Theres a drastic parfait in the shop

[hasty marlin]

what does that item do?

[prisma gyro]

Max out stat buffs

[hasty marlin]

doesnt help with you being on like 1 hp sadly

[prisma gyro]

Yeah. Does the applecup heal?

[hasty marlin]

its not much but

apple cup is gonna lose you more points than bumping difficulty to hard

[prisma gyro]

If it doesn't i might lose with the applecup

[hybrid abyss]

you probably need to buy that BV item

[hasty marlin]

might need the MP one honestly since youre not in much condition to fight argenta either unless ya got good boost counts with only supports

[prisma gyro]

If i go for argenta zerena can retire and i bring in another dps

[hasty marlin]

cause idt youre living without potions or a healing/protect item or something

what other dps do you have thats supp tho

if you have a good enough one lucys still possible, just needs antitoxin ls possibly

orr sprint dps

just show what your dps options are that are left

[prisma gyro]

Uhhhhh can 5/5 Riley do anything to argenta?

[hasty marlin]

prob can do lucy tbh

lucy is squishy as fuck

slap Antitoxin on him

and youre golden

[prisma gyro]

Really? I thought she'd be harder being an ub and all

[hybrid abyss]

you need to buy either MP or Healing Item

[hasty marlin]

Lucy is literally the easiest UB

she poisons and hits harder on poisoned

thats about it

[prisma gyro]

Cyncario still has 1 max def buff left

[hasty marlin]

the meme image in the doc is this for a reason

only 327k hp and 1728 atk to punch through

[prisma gyro]

Zerena doesn't have any more tm use, so she can't really do much without items

[hasty marlin]

(x2 in rally but still)

its worth trying your options on lucy before you drop down or buy

[hybrid abyss]

exactly. no doubt you need either one of these. MPR item sounds the best in this scenario.

unless you somehow sleep all 3 opponents on turn 1 or some bs

[hasty marlin]

since no punishment for a fail on no spend

[hasty marlin]

shes sleep immune

flinch sleep freeze immunities

[prisma gyro]

Cheese-proof

[hasty marlin]

the passives arent bad at all if you dont get poisoned

if you can fit a way to debuff speed, helps too

[hybrid abyss]

3/5 NCRosa for Easy Pickings 9

[hasty marlin]

sadly theirs is 1/5 from looks of it

[tame forge]

I got sprint or strike from stages 5 to 10

Is it better to use Silver or Rei throughout that run

I imagine Silver is better against more stages

[prisma gyro]

Holy shit zerena survived the sludge wave

[tame forge]

[outer jasper]

What should I do here? Buffs are field and strike, I need to remove sandstorm or else I die

[hybrid abyss]

that should work, in theory.

[nimble tide]

Did what I could with what I have

Floor 10 forcing me to use field strike is just

Massive pain

No tech no courtney bonus

[hybrid abyss]

Guys, I'ma do the unthinkable..... I'm going to post stuff on twitter just to get gems

[nimble tide]

Kinda cheated with apple cup just to get it over with nice and simple

[prisma gyro]

Argenta 2 bulky 4 riley

[hybrid abyss]

I'm tempted to post my Twitter Rally entry here

[outer jasper]

Hala gets oneshot and damage is nothing

[hybrid abyss]

kahili endure tank:

[outer jasper]

I do that but not enough rng 😭

I might just swap for SS Morty for sun

[hybrid abyss]

or just git gud

either that, or pray for flinches

or you could try cheezing the stage with freeze, or both.

[outer jasper]

Sync one shots Red so I can’t last that long

[hybrid abyss]

Isn't mid weak to Ice....?! Surely you should be able to presync.

[outer jasper]

Got the trial giver upgrade in the shop and was able to do it

[hybrid abyss]

Oh nvm it was SSTRed, not NCRed…

[outer jasper]

Oh lol

[outer jasper]

Let’s go

[naive tendon]

is this worth it?

[quiet tiger]

Generalist buffs like that are pretty great. Only ones better are Attack, Special Attack and Crits. If you lack a Speed Support or the Unit doesn't already raise speed you don't get the damage bonus though. Just something to keep track of

[simple frost]

dat critbuff though :o~

[hasty marlin]

already have crit buffs, so its not needed whatsoever

its better to not dillute your buffs needlessly as it only makes teambuilding stricter as you go

afaik damage boosts are additive to eachother no matter how you stack them in the shop, and same with stats

so just buying another crit dmg buff is the same as buying the speed dmg buff, except you added another criteria to cap your multiplier

if you didnt have a generally applicable damage buff yet, it would be though.

but in one like this, where you already have an easy to activate damage buff, theres zero reason to make it harder to maximize damage. the only exception is if it + your existing one would be the make or break difference of an A10 VH clear or having to bump down, but its pretty easy to tell from your attempts

[naive tendon]

ohhhhhh

[naive tendon]

gotcha

[urban ledge]

Man haven’t found the time to do this yet

[hasty marlin]

just as an example, lets say you had MC200% + Kanto100% boosts. if you instead had either MC or Kanto 300%, the results should be the same as when they were split, just needing one less theme to fully activate than the split example

same should apply to damage boosters

another comparison is adding Inertia to Haymaker, or CS10 to Haymaker. both theoretical examples would produce the same resulting damage numbers as CS20 if it existed. of course, i dont think CS10/20 itself exists, but i think it helps put it into perspective. both are +200% of base damage with different amounts of requirements.

[tame forge]

None of these passives mitigate damage right?

I'm doing piss poor damage vs this guy

[hasty marlin]

as far as i can see, no. what round is this on? and how many boosts / what team you using?

[urban ledge]

Have you been using your boosts?

[hasty marlin]

cause might be just a case of them scaling more than youre scaling yourself

[tame forge]

I'm on round 8 and not using boost, just op pairs

I'm full of sprint and my boost is galar

[hasty marlin]

cause the stat multiplier on the enemy, other than A10, is +(A#-1) * 100%

[tame forge]

This round is sprint field

[urban ledge]

Yeah that’s why lol

[hasty marlin]

so in this case its +700% stats

while youre using +0%

[urban ledge]

Round 8 means you’re facing enemies with 8x stats

[hasty marlin]

[tame forge]

I almost pre synced him but yeah can't tank his sync

[hasty marlin]

add a galar or get a boost from shop thatd actually help your team

[tame forge]

I see

[hasty marlin]

youre expected to use the boosts in this mode

[tame forge]

Oh I know but like I was actually pretty close

And my boost options were galar, battle facility foe and villain

[hasty marlin]

A10 meanwhile the VH stage has +100% stats, so if you use the starting bonus and nothing else, you're essentially fighting the real stage with a handicap of needing a theme ontop of trying to match roles

[tame forge]

I bought one galar so far

[hasty marlin]

i personally have started streaking with 150 spent on 3 +100% damage items, i just hunt for whatever generic booster i can get ahold of and abuse the shit out of my steroided damage with the base boost if its manageable

[tame forge]

100 is my lowest so far

[hasty marlin]

so for example, SPATK down or any Stat down

equals +300% damage (+600% if you count for the stat bonus)

[tame forge]

I didn't wanna use a lower point boost just to get stat increase

Cause legit 0 of my galar units are 1.5 here haha

[hasty marlin]

its easily worth having at least one 50pt damage boosters to make it less of a headache

[tame forge]

It's a brutal set

[hasty marlin]

as X Damage can make up for teams that cant theme match

[tame forge]

Ruff, but true

[hasty marlin]

just a couple highlighted clears where i had to go boostless. the latter i was VERY close on "wasting" 50pts just to clear the stage without fucking over my a9/10 plans

the a7/8/9 one a8 would of been near impossible without the damage items

that fucking headsmash man

https://tenor.com/view/anime-driving-vietnam-flashback-ptsd-gif-5605181

basically was me when realizing which stage that shit was

any higher in the map for the neo hop stage with bad role combo like that and i would of definitely needed a booster to save me

[tame forge]

Galar is usually a good boost but for this set it was pretty bad unfortunately

It is what it is

[hasty marlin]

i was really hype that i got alola this week cause its basically my best region now that ssgladion's here especially. plus its a f2p friendly region anyway so even outside of my favs i had help

i just really need to find another alolan field/sprint fav so this week doesn't repeat

especially knowing there's map(s) with 3 of those fuckers

[tame forge]

I like the game mode still

[hasty marlin]

Yeah I like it a ton too.

Hell, to some extent finding these challenges on its own is fun, but I still would rather have a bit higher odds of no headaches

[urban ledge]

Hmm

Order matters right?

I mean when inputting the roles

That’s a lot of fields lol

[hasty marlin]

Yeah order matters a lot

Cause different order is different pools

[urban ledge]

Yeah I accidentally put strike then field and it was different from my actual one, then realized it was field THEN Strike haha

[hasty marlin]

Ah the dreaded Triple

Field sprint x3.

Hope you have a lot of fun with that!

[urban ledge]

… crap I didn’t even see that

[hasty marlin]

(And hope for your sanity you have sstred to make it easier)

[urban ledge]

lol

I do not

I only have… Holiday Viola LMAO

[hasty marlin]

Rip, cause he could fully streak that map

[urban ledge]

Oh damn yeah I could just put H Viola there and forget

[hasty marlin]

Not sure how reliant viola is on mp

[urban ledge]

Too bad she ain’t carrying anything haha

Yeah very bad on mp

[hasty marlin]

Red is hardly reliant on mp at 3/5 is why he’s so good

[urban ledge]

Ghost boost too

[hasty marlin]

Haha game says use victor ig

[urban ledge]

But hey I gound Crit boost in the shop that’s great

[tame forge]

Till next week

Crazy I still haven't found a bonus stage

[naive tendon]

when you put it that way

[crisp knoll]

Oh

[wary kayak]

Oof

[urban ledge]

Oof

[simple frost]

Field and Tech huh

[wary kayak]

TBolt Red hours

[urban ledge]

No Adaman for Argenta is yikes

And no SST Red

[simple frost]

No NC Serena either?

[urban ledge]

I have her yeah

[simple frost]

no Rain though Hmm.

Unless you have Kyogre

[wary kayak]

Uhhhhh

[urban ledge]

Archie’s a strike sadly

Actually you know what I’m gonna try something stupid with Argenta lol

[wary kayak]

What type is Argenta again

[simple frost]

Grass Weak

[wary kayak]

Not that

[simple frost]

?

[wary kayak]

The no rain part

[simple frost]

they've got a Psychic Terrain (Infinite)

and they heal rebuffs at 50%

[urban ledge]

Yeah Argenta ain’t happening haha, let’s try Anabel

Woof that was rough, but another rally down haha

[pseudo egret]

Nothing wrong with that, can always post on throwaway account

[wary kayak]

Walked into the rally and the freebie upgrade was Rival-- with a half-off sale on it in the first shop. Is it a good one to use, or should I hunt for something broader?

[timid hound]

What's your pattern?

[simple frost]

you can easily tank with Zamazenta, Blue, Barry and then NC Blue 😮

[quaint star]

Darach with Support + Strike. NC Silver might have advantage but only slightly

[timid hound]

Real

[quaint star]

He (Darach) is hella tanky if you don't set up WTZ

[wary kayak]

First stage is Tech on the left, Support on the right. There are several patterns that start with this so it's impossible to tell what I have

[timid hound]

I don't think your Rival roster is bad

I'm mainly asking for your A10

But I think you have some good candidates for A10

SSGladion, anniN, SSBlue

[quaint star]

Outside of no sprint and field, Rival is a decent upgrade

[timid hound]

Real

[wary kayak]

Pattern 1: 8 Techs. Ends in Tech/Strike
Pattern 2: Balanced (scrambled mix). Ends in Support/Field
Pattern 3: Balanced (scrambled mix). Ends in Strike/Field
Pattern 4: Balanced (staggered loop). Ends in Strike/Tech

[timid hound]

Hope your NCBlue is Rolex if it's pattern 3

[hallow bolt]

kalos as the uograde

[simple frost]

i got Kalos but, Strike/Support at 10 xD

(More like i bought Kalos www)

[quaint star]

Anything is fine as long as you don't end in spring field

[simple frost]

I did get Sprint Field

😐

twice. :<

[urban ledge]

Worst part is I could have squeezed 150 more points in later rounds if I didn’t field Victor too early for rounds 1-3

[quaint star]

I got Dark upgrade twice now. Akari carried a lot of weight. Worth the cake

[urban ledge]

Haha yeah I accidentally gave her a cake but honestly she’s been carrying me a lot

[hybrid abyss]

Field unit value, my beloved.

[simple frost]

i still haven't given her cake

I think she'll be fine in like Area 3 and below .-.

[quaint star]

I am using her in higher area

And she's still 1/5

[simple frost]

same o/

[naive tendon]

area 10, is this worth it?

for 100 pts

i'm "struggling" on thornton

[heavy fjord]

if you feel like you need to buy something to beat the stage then thats a pretty good option

[naive tendon]

these are my gym leader boost options that use special attack

which is why i used ss roxie even though she's missing tm, one charge of electric terrain, and is pretty damaged 😭

with flinches from blue and making it past first sync, she can live

i got close one run, but i think i should've done 4th(?) sync with ss may bc of 3x spdef

remaining fire units with bonuses

[naive tendon]

notedooooo

idt i do?

but for just 100 points to save my sanity it seems like a really tempting option

actually 100 points is fine

this is the rest of the shop that's available, is there a better option?

[simple frost]

that crit could be worth it

but the ultra jelly will help a lot

[naive tendon]

gotcha

[simple frost]

oh i didn't notice the Anni N

could duo with SS May.

[naive tendon]

ss roxie worked with the jelly

[naive tendon]

i regret nothing

that was infinitely easier

[simple frost]

o/

[naive tendon]

like first try with the jelly worked

i didn't need to fish for the elec terrain mpr bc blue tanked fine anyways

[wary kayak]

This just might work...
I could put TBolt Red in at stage 5 for seven role bonuses in six stages (or six bonuses in five if I somehow have to remove him for the UB)

[naive tendon]

juicy 2.0

[wary kayak]

(current fight is ez, fire-weak Molayne in stage 2. Just brainstorming the rest of the run)

[stiff flume]

Yep, also while % stat bonus is linear for damage it's not the same for reduction
Dmg reduction goes like: 50-> 66-> 75-> 80-> 83%
So going for more than a total x3 stats boost is worthless

Uness you got a really weak team

[quaint star]

The good is all this tech means you have an easier time versus whatever Area 10

[stiff flume]

Keep him for 9
So you can reuse him for stage 10

[wary kayak]

Eh, it's still a linear scaling for effective HP. The real diminishing returns is that the enemy's output snowballs as the fight lasts longer so it isn't linear scaling for hits you can survive

[wary kayak]

What do you mean? I can glue him to that slot for six stages in a row via the magic of MPR resetting

[stiff flume]

But you lose a bonus in area 7, not worth imo (ofc you also lose a bonus for 6 if you don't use)
*Well depend on how much you wanna roll the TM at this point

[stiff flume]

No, it's the same reduction
Hp are not modified

[simple frost]

Tech support huh hmm

[nimble tide]

worth it 100%

[wary kayak]

You miss my point

1× HP and 2× Defenses = 2× eHP
1× HP and 5× Defenses = 5× eHP

[wary kayak]

2 in round 6 and 0 in round 7 is equivalent to 1 in round 6 and 1 in round 7

I'm Asian. I've done the math

[languid citrus]

Johto as a starting boost was surprisingly difficult. Why are there no johto field pairs

[timid hound]

We barely have any field pairs as it is

So all in all, your concern is shared across a great many type boosts too

[half bone]

Eh, maybe SS Kris will get a Field EX? Or Silver?

[timid hound]

SSKris will probs be sprint kek

Silver Hooh? Probs Tech idk

Don't wanna give those non NYWallace pullers any free handouts now do we?

[quaint star]

Every Support be sprint. Meanwhile, Kalem

[timid hound]

NCCalem be like I AM DIFFERENT

[placid depot]

Rip ccalem

You ain't nuking shit

[stiff flume]

Yeah got your point you're right, reduction is just more clear (for me at least) when talking abt effectiveness of points in the first place
When you reach abt +200% def you have enough stuff to face most of the threats
So instead of bloating your def more you can use the same points to get sweet damage boosts

[timid hound]

The only thing he is nuking is your role cake inventory

[quaint star]

I suppose he did have some merit when Rally tossed you a Support + Tech bonus, but that's about it

He can't do long grind

Not to mention most UB have Piercing Gaze

[placid depot]

He sure did, dammit!

[timid hound]

His job has been accomplished

[stiff flume]

Still so mad abt this
I mean i'm considering saving my tech candy for tierno at this point

Or lenora

[wary kayak]

Weeeellll...
I just used TBolt Red with both frogs in a Tech+Support stage.
TBolt Red's TM gives Calem regen, and paired with his own Restoring Strike, he actually healed up from ~1/3rd HP to near full again.
The only MP used was Red's TM, and I was resetting that for MPR anyway

[quiet apex]

That was a rough one.

[wary kayak]

Eh. 80% reduction to 90% reduction is a world of difference. The latter is literally twice as tanky as the former, but the numbers themselves don't look that far apart. Converting to eHP makes it much more evident, as it's 5× eHP vs 10× eHP

[stiff flume]

1k% bonus stats

Hope to see egg squad beating UB one day, maybe some whale with extra points to waste

[simple frost]

who was your Hard and VH? o_o

[quiet apex]

Sprint and Strike vs Hard Anabel and VH Lucy.

And Lucy can’t fall asleep so NC Rosa was SOL.

[simple frost]

ah pain.

[quiet apex]

Well I’m at 16/20 on the cake coin tickets so it’s all good.

Had some really bad luck on stages.
Steel VH Diantha.
Fighting VH Glacia with the +6 Evasion.

Had to do Hard stages a few times. Like with Glacia.

[wary kayak]

Tech & Strike vs Darach. Current team is TBolt Red and the frogs. Wonder if I should cake someone for a couple extra points...

[simple frost]

aura cynthia used already?

[wary kayak]

Neo Red and Anni Lillie are worth double role bonuses, as is Ryuki
Neo Blue can replace Neo Calem to better support Red

[simple frost]

also, what's your buffs?

[wary kayak]

No, but she's worth zero points here

[simple frost]

Hmm