This mode is fun
#Battle Rally
timid hound
severe bronze
br is not as exhausting as gauntlet
hasty marlin
fr tho if youre calling a mode that asks you to use a wacky team like this (1/5 exr sstred so nuke is not really existent tbh) i dont know what youre on
the wonders that tech/field r10 does to someone.
severe bronze
getting tech on area 10 is always a 
hasty marlin
yeah, support too
honestly the main combo that can be the most "disgusting" is strike/field IMO
and even that ive developed my box to answer at this point
the uh, main thing is i need to get enough of each rolex combo so i dont have to spend my UB-demolishers on lucky stages 
will be a long time for that tho
hasty marlin
yeah 2x go brrrr
severe bronze
unless they repeat on later area
hasty marlin
actually that makes me wonder, should i ditch ncblue on r5 due to that reasoning LOL
was initially thinking 7-10 but...
a8 would be ncblue, ncrosa, ssac then
so best option is either a5 or a9/10
cause ive got alola boost
im gonna be down two of my best tanks already... do i throw ncblue to the dogs too...
ah heck it, dopameme go brr
team tomorrow is zerena, lussa, ncblue
or, not tomorrow
friday
cause waiting on lussa exr release
hasty marlin
its gonna be interesting trying to lowboost the UB without any of those 3 open
havent found any good damage boosts... i need at least 2x incase of palmer
preferrably something cerena can make use of
tiny pulsar
New Personal Record :)
leaden wraith
you can use Dynamax every battle
timid hound
That works
dense latch
I don't see any vip for cake 
timid hound
NCBlue is good for when you get to Area 10 and there's no Support bonus but there's strike and UB is going to steamroll your team
viral loom
Outside of BR AoE 2x Electric Rebuff is also a nice touch to have in your uber teams
dense latch
I haven't had that problem yet
But still even if I cake nc blue. Im still just rotating just my uber pairs for BR clears š already feel like it's a drag.
viral loom
Given that NCBlue is usable for almost any UB, I think it's a reasonable thing to have it compatible with the most rng roles possible
dense latch
Yea I'll cake him when that bonus comes
I think I've only ever seen him be effective for one of my clears so I didn't bother
nimble holly
I don't see any vip for cake <:GladionSip:1208936502399344650>
Nc serena
dense latch
1/5 š„±
nimble holly
Nc blue serena they have more use from it
Now 1/5 but can be lv up and for rally blue and serena ex role are popular
gentle maple
Or more like their debuff/buff are important in long fights
Having more ex role means they can fill in the gap easier
dense latch
OK OK I'll do my resource spending spreee after next datamineš
ebon valve
Just bought and sprinted Gladion so I could potentially do 3 stages in a row. This mode is tricking me into spending my cake coin vouchers. 
elfin tendon
this mode has made me spend a lot of vouchers but its a good thing otherwise i forget about them entirely
i unironically had 41 strike candy coins at some point (didn't use any vouchers for them)
prisma gyro
Can anyone help me explain why Riley's super effective moves do so little damage? His fighting max move does about the same as victor's ghost max move
twilit chasm
1/5 base without grid is generally bad
you are comparing him with 5/5 victor who should have a fully built grid
twilit chasm
victor may also get boost from his zone
prisma gyro
I just noticed that my run has 3 field/sprint areas 
gentle maple
Ah the SST red special
prisma gyro
That's the only silver lining
gentle maple
SST red can go from area 1 to 10
prisma gyro
Area 10 is thorton with the frozen bird
tame forge
You can use leaf ig
tame forge
ubs are very tough
Going for the hard one is not a bad move
If you can't clear very hard
prisma gyro
Is it possible to buy the apple cup and still cannot clear very hard?
gentle maple
Nope but buying apple cup means u gain lesser medals than even hard too
hallow bolt
Apple Cup is basically the fun option
Honesty points wise it doesnāt really matter
Itās just flex
To not use it. Itās easy enough to get the cake and 
rewards
prisma gyro
The apple cup gives so many buffs that my phone lags. Every time.
Hmmm, i have x3 bonus total, so if i clear very hard that's 900, and for hard it's 600. Ok the difference is 300, less than the price of the apple cup
Wait hard is also an ub, wth? It's annabel with entei
dense latch
Hard is kinda... a joke. Free pass
prisma gyro
How come? The suggested level is only 30 lower
stark dawn
Don't look at suggested levels in this game, they mean nothing
stray ravine
Wait hard is also an ub, wth? It's annabel with entei
Area 10 is always a UB, doesn't matter which difficulty, Normal and Hard are whatever, VH is essentially the same battle as the regular UB in the Side Area if you were to match only the initial bonus (same stats)
it's of course an easier battle when you get there with a stack of bonuses
prisma gyro
Area 10 is always a UB, doesn't matter which difficulty, Normal and Hard are wha...
What do you mean by 'initial bonus (same stats)'
stray ravine
if you get to Area 10 with whatever bonus you get at the start of the rally and nothing else and your team has a unit providing that bonus, then VH has the same stats as the Side Area UB
prisma gyro
if you get to Area 10 with whatever bonus you get at the start of the rally and ...
As in not buying any bonuses the whole way? Running only the singular +100% boost?
stray ravine
Normal and Hard are significantly nerfed versions
stray ravine
As in not buying any bonuses the whole way? Running only the singular +100% boos...
yeah, Area 10 VH has a +100% multiplier so when you bring a unit macthing your bonus you are basically cancelling out that multiplier the enemy has
anything extra you buy will make it easier obviously, like the cup or more stacks of your bonus
prisma gyro
yeah, Area 10 VH has a +100% multiplier so when you bring a unit macthing your b...
Wait area 10 VH has that +100%? I thought it's just a slightly nerfed side area UB (judging by the rec. Lv.)
stray ravine
no, only Normal and Hard are nerfed
VH is actually buffed
if you go there without any bonus VH is double the difficulty of the regular UB
prisma gyro
Wow rec. lv. really means nothing huh? Actually, worse than nothing. Active misinformation
stray ravine
every stage has a multiplier they don't show, so yeah, don't pay attention to that
besides, it doesn't mean anything in any battle really
in or out of rally
prisma gyro
That's very informative. Thanks š
prisma gyro
SST red can go from area 1 to 10
I just noticed that this is true 
I thought they just meant that area 10 matches sst red's rolex
ionic sigil
8 Tech, Initial Sinnoh Boost with no Lucky Stage. I feel like I still had a few misplays, so need to improve on that. Using Techs for Tanks gets a bit annoying
Iām happy I got through without buying anything at least
spring trout
How hard is battle rally compared to battle villa? Havenāt touched it yet
spring trout
Damn alright, my roster isnāt too good or too bad
ebon valve
Damn alright, my roster isnāt too good or too bad
you should still try and clear it weekly, even if it's all normal difficulty for the rewards
spring trout
How does it work with teams? Do I need more than one?
Or is it just back to back battles?
hybrid abyss
You COULD, it's just that you will miss out on rewards
spring trout
Do I just want to pick bonus units?
stark dawn
preferably yes
spring trout
These are just teams I thought of, which would work better?
wary kayak
Champion stadium fight, huh
languid widget
These are just teams I thought of, which would work better?
Either could work, just be careful with using all your powerful units early since one or both of the role bonuses change every battle
wary kayak
Inflicts Speed Down, Evasion Down, and SpAtk down on your tank continuously. Spreads this to the team via Ripple Effect 9.
Beware of Flinching (Thunder Fang, Stomp) and high raw power (HEAD FREAKING SMASH)
Enemy is stronger with Speed and Defense buffs
worthy tusk
These are just teams I thought of, which would work better?
What battle is this? If it's early I wouldn't use the strong units until later, around after battle 5.
And make sure you use a character that fits the bonus it gave you or a bonus you purchase that's better suited.
pseudo egret
spring trout
What battle is this? If it's early I wouldn't use the strong units until later, ...
Havenāt started yet. Didnāt know that I should use my weaker pairs first
pseudo egret
Thank you
wary kayak
<:ColressLook:1028116738870628463>
Yeah, that's Kalos League for you
At least you don't have 3k pts of handicaps here
Here, if you wanna look for yourself
spring trout
So would something like this be okay for early stages?
wary kayak
Might be overkill, considering you can't reuse a pair once you swap out and you need to swap new pairs in for new bonus roles frequently
spring trout
Alright, so just use weaker pairs then?
hybrid abyss
yeah - really REALLY weak pairs
spring trout
So like this?
languid widget
Dawn comes to mind. Misty can also do respectable damage
pseudo egret
Villain upgrade, trying to reroll the shop but to no avail
I don't want to use Dawn on area 3
Do you think meteor bash is respectable damage
languid widget
It definitely is, especially if the enemy syncs, which you should be able to survive by spamming Defend Order with Aaron
pseudo egret
Screwed again by shop reset. What about this one? Ignore pairs, will adjust
worthy tusk
So like this?
What is the boost you were given when you started?
spring trout
This?
hexed patioBOT
hybrid abyss
for now, you could throw in your most useless electric tech unit and call it a day.
wary kayak
So like this?
Tbh Maylene and Cheryl are quite good once gridded. But I get the feeling you don't have the orbs for them, so I guess they can count as weak for now
spring trout
Yeah Iām pretty much out of orbs right now after gridding gladion
wary kayak
The earlygame is super orb-starved
hybrid abyss
you could probably get away with maylene vampire tanking 
spring trout
So surge would be fine then?
wary kayak
Or Nanu or even egg-hatched mons
Ooh, Volkner and Clemont. They're useful in unusual ways. You can bring them out for later stages
spring trout
Iāve completely forgot about hatching eggs
spring trout
So surge would be fine then?
What level should I get the three of them to?
I have a good amount of exp books
hybrid abyss
well that's the thing; we won't know the level layout unless....
- You buy that item
- We use the bot, which requires you to GET STARTED ALREADY!!!
wary kayak
Level-up gains plummet to near-flatline after Lv100. So you could throw books until Lv100 as Plan A
(Before Lv100, the gains get bigger and bigger. They just come to a screeching halt at that point)
hybrid abyss
or you could literally treat some of them (e.g.: Surge) as straight up fillers, since that's their intended role in these scenarios, especially in the early stages.
spring trout
Okay before i start, hard or very hard?
ebon valve
your pairs don't get "locked" until you beat the stage. So always try the hardest difficutly first.
ebon valve
there's no penalty for losing either, your team just goes back to way it started
simple frost
Just try your teams first and see what happens š®
spring trout
Stages two bonus is sprint and strike, is it too early to use paulo? Very hard stage weakness is rock
simple frost
yeah too early for paulo
you could run Riley but depends on you i guess.
you CAN do double down 2 strikes in there + 1 support.
simple frost
like the last few areas.
Typically, i just buy the stat boosts up to 5x with my roster.
spring trout
Is it worth keeping surge on the team due to the electric type boost?
spring trout
I donāt
ebon valve
tech/supp needs 2nd area
simple frost
Stages two bonus is sprint and strike, is it too early to use paulo? Very hard s...
is it Sprint first or Strike first, on the left?
for your area 2 i mean
hybrid abyss
oh ic... rei_hunter is trying to use the BR tracker to predict the next stages
simple frost
yeah
ebon valve
Just getting one shot 
gotta love battle challenges rearing their unwanted faces
stark dawn
is this the gladion battle already 
worthy tusk
Just getting one shot <a:pensive_twerk:775528485736415252> gotta love battle cha...
Uh sages do you mind please don't use flashy emojis? I have seizures
Thanks
ebon valve
is this the gladion battle already <:WEEZing:732044368554229892>
Ice Bonus in the 8x 
run. 
stark dawn
hey there are good ice units
8x field would suck no matter the bonus
ig main character would be the best 
but it'd suck regardless
languid widget
Irida field rolex when 
wary kayak
Strongly suspect Strike simply because it's what we don't want
languid widget
If we get Strike or Tech for SS Dawn I'd agree 
wary kayak
If that happened I'd be mildly amazed tbh
severe bronze
Irida field rolex when <:SabrinaPray:637919291777482753>
wouldnt irida field will be weird 
her ice zone will last longer than her hail
languid widget
ebon valve
they should make it both effects (that'd be nice)
severe bronze
win win solution
ebon valve
or some special magic that makes it hail, and watch for ice does some voodoo and makes it the same duration
ebon valve
If we get Strike or Tech for SS Dawn I'd agree <:LisiaBread:1202297830455390208>
she just dances ontop of the opponent's crushing them with slick moves
languid widget
Fuck yes 
quaint kayak
Just ended a rally with 7300 points, got very lucky with the Kanto booster
ionic sigil
I got Ice as my boost as well but itās a generic run. I think Iād actually prefer the 8x Field run
timid hound
You must be swimming in Field pairs to want to prefer that
ionic sigil
Nah, you just use them in multiple battles in a row
timid hound
True!
It's nice to have long chains of the same role or pairs who can switch between role and ex role to consistently hit bonus
ionic sigil
Akari and SST Red can also carry some teams in my experience
Sprint is the one that is more of a problem for me out of the two roles
wary kayak
Riley helps. He can buff the team's speed plus either Atk or Def without using MP.
Dashing Team 9 and Max Moves
timid hound
And Iron 
iron vector
The battle rally feature in poma tools does is predict the next fight bonus type?
worthy tusk
Yeah
ebon valve
https://ng-pomatools.web.app/battle-rally some require up to 3 stages of info for the correct pattern, most of the time it will tell you by 1st or 2nd stage.
iron vector
Ok, thks!
ionic sigil
Yeah, I may EX Role Riley even tbh
timid hound
Rei at home
ionic sigil
Heās my best Sprint Damage Dealer by far atm. Other Sprints are VNoland (who is basically done after one battle) and the two MF Supports with EX Role Sprint.
severe bronze
me when i dont have the tools to make gladion unga bunga
no penny no ss wally no ss hau
severe bronze
powerups everyone under eterrain, and every wtz sets give all allies smun
also stacks gladion master passive
timid hound
Ah
severe bronze
no penny no ss wally no ss hau
and no ss mina either 
timid hound
My go-to team so far is SS Mina / SS Gladion / MR
I should switch MR to SS Hau lmao
I was like "Hm yes speed"
worthy tusk
Who is Mr?
languid widget
Masked Royal
pseudo egret
Ugh
Can't get Olivia Bertha Plumeria to work against BR karen stage 3
Villain boost
2/5 Olivia isn't cutting it
timid hound
Can't you use Lodge Gio as tank?
worthy tusk
Masked Royal
Oh no wonder after all these years he is only 1/5. I forgot he exists. š
languid widget
Mine was 1/5 for the longest time too 
I regularly forget about him
ionic sigil
Maybe a better tank that isnāt Support would help?
cobalt furnace
Hard to get better than Bertha without getting too crazy
ionic sigil
Maybe swap out Plumeria for Ghetsis and go the debuffing route?
timid hound
Non EX 1/5 Bertha is hella rough
Maybe swap to a different tank, is 1/5 Boldore an option?
Ugh what's his name
Raihan
languid widget
If you're willing to rely on DPS instead of nuking, it's worth a try. Alternatively, you swap Plumeria for a different villain
pseudo egret
I fished 4 flinches with plumeria and it still didn't work out
Not sure what swapping to another villain will result in better results
timid hound
I mean what's the issue? Frail tank or not enough damage?
bronze aspen
Does your point change when you use shop items?
ebon valve
Does your point change when you use shop items?
The score for a battle isn't affected, but the shop item you purchased is deducted from your total score. Which gets converted into currency at a 1:1 rate. So you literally are spending your score, on items.
An apple cup costs 500 points, which is also 500 battle rally medals.
pseudo egret
I mean what's the issue? Frail tank or not enough damage?
Ended up surrendering and pulling out my ss cyrus
No sst red obviously
winter light
Ok. I think I just messed up some free points. The lucky stage also has the role bonuses?
I got 600 pts and now feel that it may have been more than that with some bonus
languid widget
Hmmm do I commit to electric boost?
Do you have Ash or NC Blue?
ebon valve
I got 600 pts and now feel that it may have been more than that with some bonus
The base score is 600 x the role bonus.
pseudo egret
Do you have Ash or NC Blue?
Nope and nope! All the electric pair there is all I have
placid depot
personally I'd buy at least 1 electric boost in case you can't keep using a villain in your team
electric at least has some decent support
quaint star
Area 10 is Field + Sprint . Gonna be tough
pseudo egret
personally I'd buy at least 1 electric boost in case you can't keep using a vil...
....uh...what now...
Support Sprint, for context.
Buy SE x2?
pseudo egret
Ah, that one is to randomly debuff enemy stat for every hit
pseudo egret
Yeah
timid hound
Did you address that stage's gimmick if any?
hasty marlin
Strike Field going to bash my head in but alas
This final stage combo is why I exrd ncblue 
simple frost
is that a non-PB Ghetsis?
hasty marlin
That combo is so hard to find a tank for without a strike exr support
pseudo egret
is that a non-PB Ghetsis?
Yep
hasty marlin
Ghetsis isnāt gonna do much imo in that team without pb
Almost no spatk buffs without rng
Have you used Riley yet arts
simple frost
oh god. this stage is....
timid hound
NCBlue covers Area 10 Strike/Support
NCRosa covers Area 10 Sprint/Support
Idk if there's a Field/Tech combo (probably is) but that's when it gets fun
simple frost
iirc this stage is for Melony D;
hasty marlin
Idk if there's a Field/Tech combo (probably is) but that's when it gets fun
Tech has tanks
hasty marlin
Any tech combo is a W cause it has the big nukes and tanks
timid hound
Yikes, Heat Wave + HE10
hasty marlin
I used gordie tanking argenta on day one of rally
hasty marlin
simple frost
or if you've got SST Red maybe.
hasty marlin
If arts hasnāt used Riley up yet they might wanna consider
simple frost
or you can kill the Dragalge somehow
Yeah you need to kill this one immediately.
the other two dont have Poison
simple frost
its area 7 with either Electric Buff and/or Villain buff.
ionic sigil
SSA Cynthia has Antitoxin on grid
ionic sigil
SST Red would be great here if available and EX Roled
simple frost
Yeah SST Red would be great here.
ionic sigil
Alternatively, maybe can disrupt with Sing from NC Rosa to prevent it from attacking
Unless immune for whatever reason
pseudo egret
Have you used Riley yet arts
I could still use him
But uh, last I checked, Riley isn't a Villain or an Electric
simple frost
yeah that's gonna be rough then.
Either you dip SSA Cynthia now or NC Rosa... or Ghetsis to another team member. or... yeah š¦
pseudo egret
Nope
timid hound
pseudo egret
ionic sigil
I donāt think SSA Cynthia or NC Rosa can really do DPS
ionic sigil
No Iono as well I imagine
leaden wraith
The team has very strong defensive backbone so you will clear the stage with only support
ionic sigil
It may be better to swap out NC Rosa for Riley and then bring in an Electric Support or Villain Support
pseudo egret
Ok sleep chained like...6 times
ionic sigil
Nice
pseudo egret
But yeah, do I buy the fighting boost now?
Since I can carry SSA Cynthia to the end
pseudo egret
Or do I just continue with electric boost
timid hound
If you plan on carrying SSACyn to the end, Fighting Boost is a good idea imo
ionic sigil
Is she a bonus role any more throughout?
timid hound
Only in Area 9
timid hound
Are you trying to maximize medals or get through it as easily as possible?
timid hound
Hard to say without knowing your box
ionic sigil
TM still available or no?
timid hound
Do you have NCBlue Rolex?
What is your plan for A10?
Field / Strike is a very precarious combo
pseudo egret
My plan for A10? Either just do Hard
Or finally get my hands on that fabled apple cup
ionic sigil
Hard isnāt a bad choice in my opinion
timid hound
A10 Hard is serviceable
My advice is to ditch SSACyn try to clear A8 with the bonus
Idk what Drasna do but go punch her with a fairy
Come back if it's too hard
Then we can try to TB it
Use your next broken support on A9 and should be a cakewalk so long it's not a problematic one
Then A10 should be easy enough with Hard
pseudo egret
Yep
simple frost
Her set seems to be "I'm here to punch you really really hard with Dragon Zone / Dragon Moves"
pseudo egret
Bahhh
timid hound
Get a zoner to override her
Or punch her really hard before she punches you really hard
timid hound
So did you win?
pseudo egret
Had to get the extra confusion buff
pseudo egret
You're going so wide with your boosts
Unfortunately yeah, but it was needed
Aww shoot darach, what do I need to turn off his passive?
proper schooner
Just need a field effect like weather terrain zone
Also if possible something like rock damage field to counter his regen but optional
simple frost
Unfortunately, Aura Cynthia died so that's gonna be tough :(.....
Unless you had Akari
timid hound
You got SSTRed?
timid hound
What's Darach's gimmick?
simple frost
He doesnt take big damage when there's no field effect
also he hits hard, physically.
proper schooner
Also after sync gives himself regen
simple frost
as long as there's a field effect, he's gonna take all that 300% damage
or 400% damage if you managed to fit in 1 Villain + 1 Electric in your team
but uh, Solgaleo's there so you caan just..... breeze through Darach.
Piercing Blows be nice
timid hound
Field / Strike bonus is kinda rough on the defensive end
Got a tank?
Maybe to the flavor of NCBlue Rolex?
ionic sigil
Hard stages are pretty easy in my experience so may not need it
Just need Zone, Weather or Terrain to turn off his passives
timid hound
outer jasper
What do you guys use rally points besides cake tokens, ?
stark dawn
yeah
karmic briar
Yes
I donāt go over but I usually stockpile the excess of rally points for the following month
stark dawn
worthy tusk
Nothing, I just buy cake tokens I don't even buy the 5*
When I have like 550 I don't have a need for them, also almost 3k tickets.
urban ledge
Why are you saving 550 for
hybrid abyss
holy shit... day 1 players seems to have so many resources 
simple frost
no we dont. š®
urban ledge
No we donāt lol
Dudeās just weird
ā¦ also wait
550 sounds low for a day 1 player
karmic briar
No we donāt
We also splurge a lot 
worthy tusk
550 sounds low for a day 1 player
Well I have ex about 70 pairs so that's where they went.
Some like Leon and Marnie I used the character specific ones they gave players during an event.
dusky island
is ss steven nc rosa nc blue a good team comp in this
leaden wraith
which UB are you going to tackle against?
gentle maple
What do you guys use rally points besides cake tokens, <:iGoldPowerUp:7996841798...
5* PU so I can use them on everpin, save the rest hope and pray for artwork or deluxe cookies to appear in rally shop one day
dry ice
Found this on reddit:
You really spent 700 points just to have a F2P clear on VH Palmer for....... 750 pts
honestly....... i respect it
wary kayak
Fwiw it probably also made the rest of the Rally really easy
gentle maple
I think the spendings might be lesser by 150? if it wasn't palmer last
wary kayak
Anabel?
gentle maple
I mean palmer is the hardest imo
dry ice
Ehhh i wouldn't say second hardest
dry ice
Difficulty wise IMO
- Palmer
- Anabel
- Thorton
- Argenta
- Darach
- Lucy
thorton and Argenta are kind of close together since you kind of NEED rebuff for them.
gentle maple
Really now thorton that high
dry ice
thorton and Argenta can switch tbh
gentle maple
I guess i haven't really got Lucy so I can't say much
gentle maple
Sounds easy
I got thorton 3 times in a row for my last 3 so I guess I'm used to him alr
Just no palmer anymore pls
dry ice
i think another factor into Thorton is that he switches defense resistences.
Argenta doesn't
gentle maple
I guess NC leaf really makes his fight easier by way too much
And he doesn't remove rebuff
dry ice
that's honestly why it's hard to really say which is harder over the other, but my standpoint is..... it's easy to apply another rebuff on a -2 rebuff unit.... it's not easy to switch from special to physical mid-fight causing you to stall your damage output
and even then, darach is pretty simple since all you need is WTZ, and Lucy is literally.... don't get poisoned, and lower speed.
gentle maple
I'm still gonna say thorton is easier for me because I always reserve NC leaf for my area 10 if i see support or tech
But yeah interchangable
ebon valve
Most of the UB difficulty will really depend on role bonus, whose left, and what bonus you were initially given, and if you got a good item at the end to buy.
fathom yacht
Difficulty wise IMO
1. Palmer
2. Anabel
3. Thorton
4. Argenta
5. Darach
6. Lucy
Ehhhhh palmer at 1 is super spicy
But other than that yep thatās about right
gentle maple
I mean he puts u on a timer
And he's tanky
That timer is also very short if u are going for 1-3 stacks only
karmic briar
Difficulty wise IMO
1. Palmer
2. Anabel
3. Thorton
4. Argenta
5. Darach
6. Lucy
Iād swap Lucy and darach btw
fathom yacht
Yeah but anabel is anabel
severe bronze
anabel doesnt feel as bad now that we have palmer
palmer is a weird one for sure
depending on your roster he will be either the easiest or hardest
no in between
oh wait this is rally channel
ionic sigil
This is for Monday when I continue. Almost worked out nicely to where I could do Anabel. Ice Boost and garbage in the shop ruined it
wary kayak
The first Anabel clear I actually saw, was Irida and Neo Red
tame forge
Well there you go
wary kayak
So yeah, you can absolutely use ice against her
wary kayak
I have all of them so far except I'm holding off on Gladion until the datamine shows what he's baiting against
It did mean skipping most Fairs tho
tame forge
I joined relatively late so there are some mf I don't care much about that aren't as relevant
Archie, maxie, steven, etc
Which is a shame cause steven drip goes hard
wary kayak
Leon was the oldest Master but then they gave him the flying Max Move, giving him some really useful utility. Even here in the Rally, as Max Moves don't cost MP
wary kayak
Absolute Red moment when he either breaks the meta or becomes the meta
tame forge
He's built different
severe bronze
even mix red
tame forge
Mix red saved my adaman skipping butt
wary kayak
Mix Red is amazing in Rally ye
ionic sigil
If you have irida she's not half bad against anabel iirc
I do but used her in the previous stage. No TM and 1 Ice Wish left. NC Red also used with no TMs left
I think Lucy with the bonuses comes out to 700 and if I were to somehow clear Anabel with Irida, NC Red and NC Blue, itād be 750 so not sure if worth the headache for that.
There might be a higher reward somewhere but I think I lack the tools to take down Anabel with role bonuses
timid hound
You could grid Irida for free zone on entry and use a different ice DPS?
ionic sigil
This is also Anabel weāre talking about with only the initial boost
ionic sigil
NC Red, NC Serena and SS Kris is a maybe but I feel like NC Red isnāt great without hail
timid hound
He's not
Just do Hard
I feel like only initial boost vs A10 Anabel is NCSerena + SSKris + broken support check
I did Bertha SSTRed NCSerena with 2 boosts vs A10 Anabel with 2 boosts and it was a pinch
ionic sigil
Yeah, Iāll probably do hard but waiting for next weekās mission first
timid hound
Wait you have Supp and Tech
That's like the best combination
Is NCSerena not available?
She is
Broken support + NCSerena + Irida with resets for Ice Wish
ionic sigil
Iād have two uses total counting entry
NC Leaf and NC Serena are available and both EX Roled but canāt see a way to use both
timid hound
This is so sad
This is just like how I felt when I realized Dawn doesn't have TM MPR
If you have NCBlue I can see you being able to clear before or just after Irida 2nd sync? I mean you can full focus NCSerena on mid while Irida takes care of sides
hasty marlin
This is for Monday when I continue. Almost worked out nicely to where I could do...
Itās a bit iffy but just throwing ideas at the wall for ya. Irida or CRed maybe, Cerena, SS Kris?
Or do you not own kris or already use
ionic sigil
SS Kris is available but the ice type is the problem basically
wary kayak
... Don't suppose MPizza is in the shop
hasty marlin
Sskris cerena + either ncred or irida should clear Iād think. Worth some trying at least
At least from what it looks like in the ub doc, havenāt seen the clear vids to see how tight they were
leaden wraith
its a comfortable clear, until you have to deal with 80% crit from the sides if your Cerena doesnt have Vigilance
Guard Chocolat also help, not just MPizza
ionic sigil
MPizza is available in the shop but the issue is NC Serena has to be in the team for a profit pretty much
Iām also willing to candy NC Serena so 2/5 doesnāt matter atm
Iāll give it a try Monday. I thought it was worth the discussion at least
leaden wraith
is Irida 3/5?
simple frost
I think doing Hard is a much better plan. Anabel with 1 buff is going to be difficult :x
And all you need to do is give Antitoxin to your entire team
simple frost
You could try it but up to you o/
simple frost
Des: Restore one MP for all the moves of sync pairs that use a move successfully.
no rain though which will be difficult š¦
but if you had rain, you can run circles against anabel.
like if you can get her to MP Refresh her BMove, you'd haave -3 Water Rebuffs on Anabel and Accelerate your Sync Countdown
ionic sigil
is Irida 3/5?
She is but no B Move, TM and 1 Ice Wish left
simple frost
The MPizza should be able to refresh your Ice Wish / BMove MP š®
leaden wraith
im not against Irida and SS Kris being in the same team
timid hound
I mean weather aside, Irida chunks down sides while NCSerena focuses mid
leaden wraith
wait Irida's B Move activation condition is hail
simple frost
he's aiming for maximum points though. NC Leaf or Melony has to go š¦
daring peakBOT
Irida & Glaceon
timid hound
Kekw
leaden wraith
shitty move design 
simple frost
they get hail as soon as they set up Ice Wish.
leaden wraith
at this point any solid tank will work
timid hound
I'd still say bring Kris for rain
simple frost
so they can keep going if they bought the MPizza xd
timid hound
When NCSerena syncs just set up rain
leaden wraith
goodbye Irida's B Move spam 
timid hound
Silly Gakon
ionic sigil
Kris has to Rain Dance for Sp. Def buffs still
timid hound
simple frost
Water Shuriken -> BMove -> Water Shuriken -> BMove basically www
leaden wraith
Kris has to Rain Dance for Sp. Def buffs still
follow Paris' strat then: use Rain Dance at the start and before each Cerena's sync
timid hound
So as to not completely ignore sides
leaden wraith
Irida can handle sides after mid and Cerena are down with her innate Vigilance
assuming Cerena doesnt have Vigilance
simple frost
Oh right. Their TMs can also be MP Refreshed.
Infinite Healing wwww
man that Pizza sure is pretty nice.
timid hound
"surely 20% non crit is on my side, r-right?"
NCSerena can tank 1 crit Heat Wave assuming Anabel sync doesn't either
It'll leave them very low yes but all you need is 1 HP to win
leaden wraith
as long as Irida is standing i dont think you will lose
timid hound
It might be a roll but I think it's in your favor from my experience
True
Hisui carry
NCSerena š®
simple frost
if they're gonna run SS Kris, i think they can heal up + irida's Gradual Healing buff
timid hound
Not if the HW is like 2 moves before sync
Wait but MPizza = infinite Potions?!
Is that how it works?
If so that's crazy
simple frost
As long as the unit uses a move.
like, Rain Dance == +1 to MP for it, as well as the TMs/Potions.
simple frost
I've seen Ash just kept using his BMove to obliterate.
timid hound
That's insane lmao
Reusable B Moves? It's joever
I might actually waste 100 medals just to try this out
timid hound
It's more profitable to use MPizza on hard than Hard on Lucy
Albeit you need a modicum of strategy
simple frost
Honestly they can do a lot with the MPizza lulz
leaden wraith
Recommending doing Lucy H over Anabel VH with MPizza is not a helpful advice, like at all
If it doesnt work we didnt discus about it in the first place
simple frost
Tbh, with MPizza, they can probably sync twice or thrice if they used their NC Serena's BMove to accelerate
timid hound
It sucks that NCSerena B Move condition is finnicky
Imagine being able to spam it
NCSerena will eviscerate Anabel more than she already does
leaden wraith
ionic sigil
I tried doing some trial runs on the standard UB but not looking great. Iām not sure how much of a difference MPizza is going to make here
timid hound
Standard UB meaning Very Hard?
ionic sigil
The one in the side area yeah
wary kayak
I tried doing some trial runs on the standard UB but not looking great. Iām not ...
Irida can spam her B move almost nonstop with MPizza
Use B move, consume 1 MP, regain 1 MP, repeat until hail ends
ionic sigil
She needs Hail for it unfortunately
simple frost
^
ionic sigil
Iām setting Rain for NC Serena too
wary kayak
You don't need to, tbh
simple frost
As long as they use a move (any move in particular) they can keep using their TMs/Items/B-Moves
leaden wraith
well Paris recommended using Rain Dance before Cerena's sync, then Ice Wish afterwards
ionic sigil
Wouldnāt Brainpower Water Shuriken outdamage Iridaās B Move anyway?
wary kayak
It won't unqueue itself even though the unlock condition is gone
leaden wraith
it does, yes. But Irida's B Move is still strong and it helps clearing battle quicker
wary kayak
Wouldnāt Brainpower Water Shuriken outdamage Iridaās B Move anyway?
The key is whether 50% of that (Rain multi) will beat the difference between Icy Wind and B Move
...Also with MPizza you have unlimited Mini Potion All
Like, that is unrelated to all the stuff before
simple frost
as well as Irida's TM (Gradual Healin)
wary kayak
But it felt important
ionic sigil
It doesnāt help too much when Sync eventually one shots
wary kayak
"Eventually"
simple frost
wait, are you trying to do the normal one?
ionic sigil
I experimented with the team there. Didnāt go well to say the least
wary kayak
Pretty sure you can win before second sync, possibly even before the first
You have stat and dmg multis in the Rally
ionic sigil
I have just the initial boost actually
leaden wraith
UBs in Rally are different compared to UBs in Side Areas
ionic sigil
Which is Ice
wary kayak
Oh
leaden wraith
you have 100% dmg boost and infinite MPR
ionic sigil
Theyāre double the stats in Rally iirc
leaden wraith
so trying in Side Areas doesnt yield the same result
wary kayak
Then you're on even footing except for the option to have infinite MP
leaden wraith
if MPizza doesnt work, you can buy another Ice upgrade
simple frost
Just try it o/
wary kayak
If you don't need healing and the weather is currently rain, Kris can spam TM for SMUN
So that's also an option
Maybe it really is worth leaving the weather rain (after one BMove for ruining Anabel's SpDef)
leaden wraith
no hurts going for other approaches, yeah
wary kayak
Also "MPizza" is just kind of fun to say.
crisp knoll
š
The free theme bonus is Normal type btw
having (not fun) trying to plan the rest
simple frost
Could see me running that entire thing with
NC Rosa + Elaine + Damage Dealer of the Area xD
crisp knoll
Could see me running that entire thing with
NC Rosa + Elaine + Damage Dealer o...
then you would be missing out on all the bonus points
simple frost
I only really need 2x Bonus per area š¦
any more is good enough for me
but up to you.
static arch
I will be needing to do the BR on the weekend after LG ends
It is both exciting and stressful when we have alot of content overlapping in this game finally
ionic sigil
The free theme bonus is Normal type btw
If you have Spring May, she can tank a little bit for a Striker if needed
simple frost
did you managed to clear Anabel VH? š®
timid hound
Did you clear it?
timid hound
If you have Spring May, she can tank a little bit for a Striker if needed
Norman Slaking tank trust
hasty marlin
i finish my rally today now that the aether family's exrd
was waiting for sis and mom to get theirs
using ticket before i apply just incase paulo tho
dunno who'd i use for alternative tech target
2/5'd my alder off ticket... huh.
thats an odd choice game
ionic sigil
Iāll be attempting it Monday so I can get those weekly Rally gems asap
hasty marlin
i just have the ticket of each week so, im running off this weeks resources
if i wanted to be extra safe i could wait for saturday and sunday pulls but mathematically, not much point
ionic sigil
Yeah, Iām trying to plan ahead in case I get sick or really donāt feel like doing Rally for whatever reason. I also have an alt to manage, so it gets tricky sometimes
hasty marlin
fair enough
hasty marlin
which alola supp vs fire hau with ssac ncrosa
a8
on 3x alola atm
both 2.0x units are 1/5 exr
simple frost
Ohh looks great o.o
hasty marlin
gonna try lana ig...
timid hound
You got this
timid hound
Special Nuke time
hasty marlin
BOTH defenses are maxed
who the hell were you made for hau, WHO SENT YOU
that was a slog and a half
hasty marlin
now i have strike tech, whos prob my best tech tank here
cause uhhh, UB is gonna be triple support again https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009564564821639379/1209745603152711690/image.png?ex=65e80a63&is=65d59563&hm=3bbfe4803e90338381bc852168b010e9bd4d4b0e9430d77072dc9cf8fabf37f5&
timid hound
Who are you facing?
hasty marlin
dragon cynthia rn
it says focus on trap and watch out for sand
ncred 1/5 exr and anni lillie 2/5 exr are the presets from strike tech
i get +100% stats if the tank's a bug but its not needed prob with +300% alola
timid hound
Oak Mew?
Grid for First Aid and Pot with aLillie if needed?
NCRed and aLillie should clean up quick from the sound of it
Unless you need to override weather asap
ionic sigil
Flannery and Base Erika can work as Tanks
ionic sigil
Flannery only takes physical well
timid hound
Oak Mew with Shifty Striker and FA4
Reset TM until favorable defenses if necessary but I don't think it's needed
Esp with +300% boost
leaden wraith
Bertha and Lucian can work as a self sustain tank
hasty marlin
barely managed to clear with viola, randomly ended up tossing her in after realizing she was a bug tank bc didnt realize that was a physical stage
...oh hi darach...
ionic sigil
Oh yeah, I forgot sheās a Tech
hasty marlin
triple support with Darach when no alola VA / ss kris and such
what the fuck is thiiiiis
ionic sigil
Stage 10 Darach or something else?
timid hound
What's Darach's gimmick again? Weather?
hasty marlin
wtz
timid hound
Hm
hasty marlin
else he hits hard and takes little
ionic sigil
Very Hard I imagine?
hasty marlin
yep
timid hound
what the fuck is thiiiiis
Is this all you got to work with?
timid hound
Ay dios mio
ionic sigil
SC Lillie, Lyra and Sycamore?
timid hound
Why Sycamore
hasty marlin
im bringing ncerena for nuke cause didnt use her r1
ionic sigil
Heās decent damage output for a Support
timid hound
Hm true
But Lyra covers his buffs
I mean Lyra has to sync every time no.
To maintain Sun
ionic sigil
She or SC Lillie can set him up
timid hound
Yeah I think that team is good
I was looking at it from dawn nuke angle but Lyra needs sync
hasty marlin
do you think this would work (phone discord froze)
Cerena, NCalem, Ingo
ionic sigil
Oh, sheās EX Roled?
hasty marlin
yea
hasty marlin
im a serena simp so
hasty marlin
...oh fuck right
forgot the type boost for sec
need to replace calem or ingo with alola
timid hound
Calem
ionic sigil
Maybe SC Lillie over one of them?
timid hound
How confident are you in your nuke
Because you have 3 Sandatorms max
Unless you wanna refresh like crazy
Or roll it
ionic sigil
Lyra could be better
timid hound
Whats your Ingo
hasty marlin
2
timid hound
Joever
hasty marlin
remaining alola supports: anabel 
, LGladion, BPOlivia, LAcerola , SC Lillie , lillie elio kiawe
anabel is 1/5
timid hound
SCLillie
hasty marlin
rest 3/5+
hasty marlin
egh im 1 energy off all 4 major tiles for this fight
fathom yacht
Sheās just there as a special tank that heals on hit, has potions, and flinches
hasty marlin
Was gonna take tm mpr in hopes of ghost zone
but it doesnt fit with full potion mpr
fathom yacht
Hitting Ghost Zone isnāt necessary, and if we get a Zone setter that ISNāT GARBAGE, SSRCYNTHIA, then the team can actually start to do well
hasty marlin
what the fuck is thiiiiis
problem is my support wtzs look like this, and lyra means i dont nuke
timid hound
Yeah you have like no weather setters left lol
Could try Ingo + Lyra + Sycamore
Slow burn but consistent
hasty marlin
cerena team dies to 2nd sync btw on first try, ima do one more try but this time see if i can save sands exclusively for the nuke sync
actually
calem prob better at that point
cause if i can kill in 2 sync cycles postsync
then maybe i can win?
timid hound
Defs
hasty marlin
lillie: dies to crunch
me: Houston we have a problem.
the problem: sides existing with heat wave
tempted to just pick up an item at this rate, if 100 points will make it painless
ionic sigil
Is it close or not really? Would NC Calem tank better than SC Lillie? She can still buff his defenses
hasty marlin
i kill mid, but then sides crit me to death
i can record an attempt tomorrow morning if it helps, i need rest bc im sick as hell atm, phone doesnt record well on sub 20% battery anyway
simple frost
whose the VH? o.o?
hasty marlin
Darach
i never found a damage booster that would help cerena so
its lowest ive ever spent so far
simple frost
oh support.
obsidian sentinel
<:Support:670127901647306759> <:Field:1134078533128429689> with all my fields us...
always the way
hasty marlin
i just think itd be hard to manage with triple full on support with lyra syncing, cause if lyra syncs every sync then the sync buffs might lack
simple frost
SST Red gone and out? š®
hasty marlin
yep
had a tech field and didnt hesitate
i decided to try full marching the roles aside from r1
since r1 didnt reveal the map
simple frost
Hmm what about Aura Cynthia?
simple frost
What are your uh shop options?
hasty marlin
alr posted
hasty marlin
lemme take meds before i check ingame, but the items the double sync countdown iirc, where each move basically has prop1
simple frost
that could be pretty solid, but you're lacking a Field :/
or something that can drop a field. like iunno Akari.
and recursion too.
obsidian sentinel
F
simple frost
ouch yeah.
You're gonna have to buy the Infinite Field effect, get Hapu up there or something.
whose your Hard fight?
hasty marlin
lucy
karmic briar
Cake the frogsssss
simple frost
Time to roll Antitoxin for everything.
hasty marlin
Cake the frogsssss
i did cake cerena, dont have another tech cake
cause used on lillie this week
karmic briar
Sounds good
simple frost
Also, Lillie against Darach with no DEFENSE BUFFs is gonna be nasty as well.
hasty marlin
yea this fight's pretty rough
simple frost
like
how much dps are you doing at the end?
before his 2nd sync, did you at least get to like 6 Sync Buffs?
hasty marlin
i get 4 syncs in minimal before 2nd sync, problem is i barely dont kill before dh+all
cause only 2 field sets
so like, 7 sync buffs
simple frost
hmmm
ionic sigil
Do you run out of WTZ then?
hasty marlin
yeah
simple frost
yeah even if you had bought the Sync Countdown stuff
no recurring field is gonna be tough.
hasty marlin
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009564564821639379/1210484489386590278/image.png?ex=65eaba87&is=65d84587&hm=06d274d7062d959937f67bafffd7371516b4a6f80a7a7ad0f6221263d6e17a11& these being the only leftover wtz support/field is 
ionic sigil
I hate to say it but would getting a Ghost Zone from SC Lillie early on be enough to win?
Then you could delay NC Calemās
simple frost
it COULD use several tries but hum.