Battle Rally

[timid hound]

Throw in some random sinnoh pair for boost

[half bone]

Like Lucian?

[timid hound]

Sure

I'm personally super frugal from Areas 1-9 and try not to expend any meta sync pairs there

But this again depends on box so yeah

[half bone]

Something like this?

[timid hound]

Idk what that stage's gimmicks are but Lucian with +300% boost should tank just fine, maybe

[half bone]

wel, it worked. Kukui and Lucian died by the end but oh well.

[timid hound]

That's a shame

[half bone]

Sadly, Cynthia had special attacks so growl wasn't a cure all solution.

[timid hound]

Lucian could have been reused for Area 7

[half bone]

I have Lodge Steven so I have another tank.

[timid hound]

But he's not Sinnoh

[half bone]

Darach too.

[timid hound]

Now we're talking

[half bone]

does he have anything for support focus?

As in, sync grid wise.

[timid hound]

Yes

[half bone]

Sadly, I can't use Bertha with Gordie.

[timid hound]

First Aid 4 iirc

Unless by support you mean debuffing

[half bone]

Debuffing, I'd say.

Since Steven would be tanking.

[timid hound]

He has tons of eva down

And terrify

[half bone]

You know what I think is a missed opportunity?

[timid hound]

Yes

Summer Cynthia

Where is she?!

[half bone]

Not making Lodge Steven's Sync Move 'Agent of the Ancient Power'.

[timid hound]

That too

[half bone]

To note, opponents is Karen E4, it looks like.

Honchkrow, Pidgeot, and Salamence.

[timid hound]

I don't remember stages like Sages does

This is why the opponent tab should have a full breakdown of passives + moves

Like other games

[half bone]

All the watch out stuff has is flinching as an issue.

[timid hound]

Better not be Acute Senses kek

[leaden wraith]

This is a CS stage

[half bone]

Yeah, that's what I meant when I said E4. Derp

[timid hound]

So Rally takes stages from EBE and CS?

[leaden wraith]

CS and Battle Challenge from events mainly

EBE and some Neo Champion stages appear as well, but i havent seen any EBE

[timid hound]

I see

[craggy helm]

Crying at this but uh any help team building for this one? lmao

Maybeeeee??? I’m not good at strategizing 😭

Hmm admittedly got pretty close….gonna try again before checking the store again

[half bone]

What stage is this? Can't place it.

[timid hound]

Check if enemy preview screen has any useful tips

Maybe there's some passives working against you

[half bone]

Special damage reduction and paralysis warnings.

Is this the NC pair stage?

[craggy helm]

stat reduction defense

If the sides didn't have earthquake and bulldoze id be fine :(

[timid hound]

You could just swap Valerie for a ghost pair to maximize Ghost Zone

[timid hound]

Hala stage? CS maybe?

[craggy helm]

Fairy weak tho

[half bone]

...What? Hala isn't even there.

[timid hound]

Meh

Might as well double down on Ghost Zone

IMO

[timid hound]

Isn't he a CS boss?

Idk

Can't help you there, soz

[half bone]

But he isn't even on there. Just generic trainer classes.

[craggy helm]

They asked about THEIR stage, mine is most likely CS

[timid hound]

I'm getting mixed up lol

Aight good luck folks

[ebon valve]

that fight has Tough Skin 5 and go viral 9 stun spore

[half bone]

Tough skin was what again? Is that just 'don't bother with physical'?

[ebon valve]

And the sides have Sentry Entry x2

Tough Skin 5 reduces damage of all damage that isn't supereffective.

[timid hound]

Can't use non super effective

[half bone]

Oh, lovely. So piercing blows?

[ebon valve]

Piercing Blows, would work yea.

[craggy helm]

YIPPEE!!! I did it, went for the sides first 😂 now round 3… hmm

[timid hound]

[craggy helm]

Another ice weak…hmmm

[half bone]

Which units get piercing blows again?

[quaint star]

Anni Lillie, all N, Solgaleo, OG Victor

[half bone]

And NC Red, of course.

[quaint star]

That's off my head.

[ebon valve]

PB: #916852389347196958 message

[half bone]

Huh. Petrel has that.

[naive tendon]

...am i screwed?

my only grass tech left is ss erika

[severe bronze]

you have cerena of course not

[nocturne pawn]

No regular Erika?

[naive tendon]

i have yet to clear this stage normally yet

[naive tendon]

i already used both of them on earlier stages

bp and base

[nocturne pawn]

Ramos?

[severe bronze]

rolex cerena can definitely help make the clear easier

[naive tendon]

used him too

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[naive tendon]

ss erika is

quite literally

my only grass tech left

[nocturne pawn]

Then avoid the super min-max on medals and do Rosa or something, I guess

[half bone]

Is 1/5 N good enough/

[leaden wraith]

He will need a lot of help

[half bone]

It's a Strike/Support stage so... that help?

[naive tendon]

imm gonna avoid caking if i have to

i was planning to cake ss serena for supp instead

[leaden wraith]

Im not certain if your triple team can tank VH stage

Unless you have a lot of boosts

[severe bronze]

anni raihan can tank but idk if the damage will be enough without support rolex

might want to ex raihan for stats though

[naive tendon]

lemme send the tech list

[nocturne pawn]

Tbh you could just bite the bullet and grab Apple Cup

[severe bronze]

anni raihan can definitely tank with these stat boost

[nocturne pawn]

Still a net positive and you’re already past the minimum weekly medal value needed to get all the cake vouchers

[severe bronze]

he gets an extra 20-30% def from sand

[naive tendon]

weather-setting techs

[leaden wraith]

No healing tho, so it hurts a lot unless you go for cup

[naive tendon]

water and grass techs

[naive tendon]

wait i thought early calculations were apple cup was a net negative compared to hard stage

[naive tendon]

i could like

roll for healthy healing ig

[half bone]

what all in total does N need to be supported here?

[naive tendon]

he has no cookie rn anyways

[leaden wraith]

Not worth it tbh

[leaden wraith]

Can you beat Lucy H?

[naive tendon]

this stage is my excuse to finally ex raihan yessssssss

[leaden wraith]

Crit and speed support at very least

[naive tendon]

haven't tested yet

i just know my team setup is less than ideal

[half bone]

I kinda need Piercing Blows on this in general and he's the only one that isn't NC Red. I don't really want to burn him

[nocturne pawn]

I wasn’t comparing to 1 difficulty down, I was just saying you’d still have more than your current 6900 medals regardless of whether you Apple Cup or not

[naive tendon]

o h

dope

[severe bronze]

yeah no healing is a bit problematic

ss leaf wouldve been an easy clear

[nocturne pawn]

You’d hit like 750 with 3 Techs, so 250 gained if Apple Cup is used

Your choice in the end though

[craggy helm]

My luck w/ building the teams myself has ran out, I need help

[leaden wraith]

What is your boost? You can use tech Glaceon for zone

[naive tendon]

gotcha

i'll test a bit first

[leaden wraith]

iirc Marnie demands status conditions and debuffs, which Ghetsis covers

[half bone]

How does this look? Would this work for N?

[simple frost]

Fighting boost o.o

[leaden wraith]

You might want a more defensive support than Hilbert. But its worth trying first

[half bone]

Okay, N's doing barely any damage.

even after EX support sync.

I need an alternative.

Should I really burn NC Red on this? It's area 8

[timid hound]

What stage are you facing?

[timid hound]

Are they doing a lot of damage?

The enemy pairs

[half bone]

The issue is me not doing much against the middle.

[timid hound]

Is this the one where Sages said it had Tough Skin?

[half bone]

Yeah.

But doesn't N have Piercing Blows?

[timid hound]

Didn't Sages also said they had Sentry Entry?

[half bone]

The sides, I think.

[timid hound]

Hm

Got a spare Volkner?

Could use ET amp N

Oh wait this is Strike/Support bonus

[half bone]

Yeah

[ebon sorrel]

Excuse me sorry to interrupt but is there a set order for the battles? I would like to know if they are already set the moment you start or if they are all random.

[timid hound]

Could switch Marley to a fire dps

[timid hound]

The role bonus patterns are set but which pattern you get is random

[half bone]

I need something to stop Stun Spore. And N is a gauge hog.

[timid hound]

Hm

[ebon sorrel]

I see do you can't know the battles but the roles are set

How do i see them?

[timid hound]

PomaTools > Battle Rally

Input your area 1/2/3 role bonus and it'll output the pattern you received

[ebon sorrel]

Thanks

[timid hound]

No other PB unit?

[half bone]

I mean, there's stuff like Anni/Lillie but...

[timid hound]

Why not try her

[craggy helm]

I’m barely doing damage against marnie I hate strategizing

[timid hound]

Her and N are both gauge heavy and her potion might come in clutch

Not entirely sure why mid isn't taking damage from N

Is he 1/5?

[half bone]

Yeah.

And Anni!Lillie is too

[timid hound]

[ebon valve]

Passive 6: Healthy Advantage 4

[timid hound]

Their damage isn't stellar at 1/5 especially when not SE so maybe the move is to just prolong it

[timid hound]

Are you statusing her

[half bone]

I do have candy too.

[timid hound]

Nah

Don't candy for Rally of all things

[ebon valve]

If you're having trouble consider buying an item to help.

[timid hound]

Yo Sages, I digress but is there a repository for looking at all those stages' passives and whatnot?

Or are you just a database on legs?

[ebon valve]

they're pinned

in my comment

if you're on mobile, it's harder to CTRL+F though

[half bone]

Any of these work?

[timid hound]

Found it

Nice stuff

[half bone]

To at least get down middle?

[timid hound]

Thanks Sage

[timid hound]

Try

[ebon valve]

You kind of need to tell us, you're the one with the boosts equipped.

are you using your stat boost?

[timid hound]

SSRed is available too, why not just use him?

[ebon valve]

I'd also consider a Lithe support, if you're getting sync'd

[timid hound]

Oh true Tough Skin

Wait but mid is fire weak

Also bypasses Sentry Entry on sides

[ebon valve]

well you don't need 2x people buffing speed

[timid hound]

Their reasoning for Marley is status condition defense

Vs Stun Spore

[ebon valve]

I see. That's where Lithe support comes in handy.

[half bone]

Maybe this?

Would have to slow grind the last one but...

[ebon valve]

Is one of the roles staying next round?

[half bone]

strike

strike is staying for all three remaining rounds

it switches between support and sprint for the next two

[timid hound]

Iono has Lithe?

[half bone]

She's 1/5, it's one of the only available tiles.

[timid hound]

Ah

[craggy helm]

[ebon valve]

So even with Paralysis and an actual support, still no good?

[timid hound]

Any possibility of switching Tech Glaceon to a fighting pair?

[craggy helm]

Nope, barely doing damage even w/ para

[ebon valve]

boosted ghetsis doesn't need a support, so you can probably make use of a fighting striker

though, ghetsis doesn't want to be the one applying para

that'd take too long

[timid hound]

Keep resetting until SSBrendan lands Para no?

[ebon valve]

just use hala instead of trying to go for a complicated nuke

[craggy helm]

Hala has been used, he's at like half health but mp is used up

[half bone]

Aaaand it just worked, though I had to bring Marley back in. Forgot I was using her for Sinnoh bonus too.

[timid hound]

Nice

[timid hound]

Are all enemies there ice weak?

Or just mid?

[craggy helm]

All weak

[timid hound]

You could always grid for cold snap and play with freeze to buy some time

And assuming marnie isn't killing your team you could spam glaciate and then finish off marnie with nuke once sides are dead

[craggy helm]

He has cold snap 😭 bro doesn't wanna freeze shit

[timid hound]

[ebon valve]

Can't freeze if they're paralyzed

also a bit risky, as the second they thaw; 50% damage reduction is applied

[timid hound]

Oh true lmao

Do away with Cold Snap then

Waste of energy

Find a fighting pair that can debuff/help with sustain?

[half bone]

9th stage was cake, now onto the last one.

...oh God, not her again.

I would rather deal with the Regigigas.

[timid hound]

Lucy is straightforward at least

[half bone]

well, I have 7,250 points stored up.

[ebon valve]

I'd try a fighting pair for the boost that or buy something.

[half bone]

And I have REi and Aura Cynth still.

[ebon valve]

or use something better than ghetsis

[half bone]

would that be able to power through?

[timid hound]

Uh

[ebon valve]

what's your boost, sinnoh? and at what lvl

[half bone]

Level 3.

[timid hound]

Just don't get poisoned and debuff their speed

[half bone]

I can get it to level 4 i I need to.

'Don't get poisoned' Easy to say.

[ebon valve]

marley would've done that

[timid hound]

Antitoxin is your friend!

[half bone]

I still needed her for a Sinnoh boost.

[ebon valve]

ball guy?

[half bone]

Don't hvae him.

[timid hound]

NYLisia?

[half bone]

I have Melony

[timid hound]

She works

Assuming you time your Safeguards

[half bone]

She's basically the best I have if I don't wanna rely on random chance with LilTea.

[ebon valve]

Does SCDE protect against secondary effects that poison?

[timid hound]

I assumed it did

But maybe you should verify that

If it's the same with whatever Wallace puts up the answer is no

Although I think his is reflection

What's your role bonus btw

[craggy helm]

I was so closeeeeee

[timid hound]

Try swapping SSSilver for a fighting pair?

[half bone]

You know what, if I'm going to be using Aura Cynth, would taking Sp. Def Power Up and Def Poewr Up be worth it?

[timid hound]

I suppose it would

[half bone]

or would I be better off getting a Damage Guard or a fourth Sinnoh Upgrade?

[timid hound]

But have you already addressed Lucy's gimmicks?

[half bone]

Yes, Safeguard.

I don't have a way to lower speed though.

[timid hound]

You should probably figure that one out first

[half bone]

I'm just gonna have to live with that.

...I have no way to do that without sacrificing power.

Or survivability.

[timid hound]

From my experience Lucy hits like a wet noodle if you're not poisoned and her speed is debuffed

Try Nita

Or Courtney if you have tech bonus and not support bonus?

[half bone]

Strike/Support.

So my options are to give up Safeguard or have Melony tank and bring in Pryce, Barry, Lodge Elesa, or Nita.

[timid hound]

The doc doesn't say by how much their moves are powered up if their speed is raised so anecdotal evidence is all I got kek

[half bone]

Those are my only on-bonus pairs that lower speed.

[timid hound]

Nita

What's your team looking like?

[half bone]

EX Aura Cynth, EX Rei, and Melony, originally.

[leaden wraith]

Is this VH?

[half bone]

Yes.

Last attmept was just short of the finish line.

[leaden wraith]

Idt Nita will work

[half bone]

trying one more time, didn't have fighting gear equipped so that might make enough of a difference.

[leaden wraith]

There is another alternative: give Antitoxin to every pair if you are certain they can beat Lucy

[timid hound]

I used Nita and it worked

[leaden wraith]

What was your team back then

[timid hound]

NCRosa Nita NCBlue

Lucy literally does no damage provided you're not poisoned and her speed isn't raised

[leaden wraith]

Well she is carried by 2 top supports

[ebon valve]

well area10 let's you experiment all you like, so get cracking

[timid hound]

True kek

Nita wasn't doing damage lol, she could've been swapped for any speed debuffing pair

Support Sprint Role bonus so

[ebon valve]

this is a little surprising for area 4. Did you try with any fighting pair?

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[leaden wraith]

Fighting is pretty dire utility wise

[timid hound]

True lol

[ebon valve]

we're about to get our 15th fight pair

[craggy helm]

YIPPEEE BUT ALSO STOP WITH THE ICE TYPES RAAAAAAH THIS IS THE THIRD STAGE IN A R O W FOR ICE

[leaden wraith]

At least the bonus roles are better

[ebon valve]

HE4 Drasna :3

[timid hound]

Congrats!

Hope you don't get Palmer for Area 10

[half bone]

I would very much like Palmer for Area 10.

I freaking hate Lucy.

[heavy fjord]

You really don't

Trust me, Lucy is annoying, Palmer just sucks

[half bone]

I have Rei and SS Aura Cynth.

Palmer would evaporate.

[heavy fjord]

You may be underestimating him

[half bone]

You are underestimating Lucy.

[heavy fjord]

I've fought her twice, there is a very easy way to get through her that Palmer hasn't got

[half bone]

I beat Palmer AFTER Sync.

With far less of a headache.

Trust me, I am speaking from experience.

[heavy fjord]

So am I

[half bone]

Then how hte hell do you see Palmer as easier?

[heavy fjord]

i dont, i see him as harder

[half bone]

Lucy, I mean.

Lucy drags out the entire fight.

[heavy fjord]

theres this lucky skill called Antitoxin

[half bone]

Which plays to her advantage because it means you run out of protections for Poison.

[heavy fjord]

it helps

a lot

[half bone]

Oh, yes, take Anti-Toxin for the already tanky boss instead of stuff like Vigilance or Critical Strike 2.

[heavy fjord]

she isnt bulky

[half bone]

That drags it out even more.

[heavy fjord]

for an ultimate battle she is incredibly squishy

[half bone]

...I am unloading on her with Rei in Fighting Zone.

[heavy fjord]

only saved by the fact that she endures twice

[half bone]

She is laughing it all off.

[heavy fjord]

she has 330k hp, Anabel has 924k

for ultimate battle standards she is easily the least bulky

the sides do a lot of heavy lifting by having 200k each, but Lucy herself isnt really that bad even without antitoxin

[ebon valve]

considering someone cleared with Courtney as the solo dps, I'd say that's accurate

[half bone]

How? I raced through parlmer after a few false starts.

[heavy fjord]

and Vigilance isnt a big deal because she has no crit buffs outside of the Sure Crit Next all item before her second sync

[half bone]

He's what I'd consider squshy by comparison.

[heavy fjord]

so crits should not be happening

Palmer has about 200k more hp but he doesnt endure while Lucy endures twice

[craggy helm]

FINALLY A NONE ICE TYPE STAGE

[heavy fjord]

and while giving up crit strike 2 kinda sucks, its a small price to pay to invalidate half of the stage entirely

if you have a way to debuff speed and the antitoxin lucky skill Lucy is effectively a non threat

[half bone]

I don't want to keep wasting cookies on this stuff either, especially without battle Villa.

[ebon valve]

waiting for that LS upgrade that's coming

[half bone]

LS?

[craggy helm]

Lucky skill

[simple frost]

You can change your lucky skill

[half bone]

that still eats cookies to do.

[heavy fjord]

they announced that were getting lucky skill slots

[ebon valve]

gonna be able to have multiple skills; just don't know the implementation

[heavy fjord]

i assume its gonna work kinda like sync grid presets where you can just switch between them at will

but yeah

we are likely gonna have access to that before the Lucy UB releases proper

[simple frost]

Still wish for a 2nd lucky skill slot but, can save old lucky skills by the sync pair is... Fine i guess... Of thats how theyll implement it. Youll probably still need to get the lucky cookies

[ebon valve]

it'd be nice if skills were equippable gears but alas

I've submitted feedback saying they should've taken the Gen8 Technical Record system

open a cookie, and it becomes an item that you can stack. Instead of rolling for a skill on each pokemon

[half bone]

This is how much damage Triple Arrow Barrage did after support sync. How is she not tanky?

[heavy fjord]

again

she has 330k hp

[simple frost]

She has like 700k hp

[heavy fjord]

for an ultimate battle boss that is nothing

[half bone]

Yet I could race htrough Palmer.

[simple frost]

Oh 330k o.o

[half bone]

Again. I would rather face him.

[timid hound]

Y'all

[simple frost]

Id probably just do hard mode

[timid hound]

Both of your opinions are valid

Relax

[simple frost]

If you dont have any anti lucy gimmick

[timid hound]

They both pale in comparison to Anabel anyways

[half bone]

I give up, time to burn cookies and get anti-toxin.

[heavy fjord]

I find anabel the easiest but

i have the best team possible for her

[ebon valve]

I mean it looks like you're absolutely chunking her here in this screenshot.

[half bone]

I'd be luck ifi that was 3-5% on an attack I rarely get.

[timid hound]

Just for the record, when I was against Lucy, my highest damage vs her non sync was like 7k

After 7 syncs it was 17k

So uh, you're fine

[heavy fjord]

for a non-SE move that likely doesnt have its multiplier maxed out 24k is like

not half bad

[timid hound]

Idk about survivability tho since her speed is raised

[heavy fjord]

assuming you even take insult to injury

[timid hound]

Surely SSACyn and Melony is enough

[crisp knoll]

Welp.

[timid hound]

Real

[half bone]

I die to the second sync.

[timid hound]

Kekw

I told you to debuff her speed

[simple frost]

Yeah mix red is really good here as well

[timid hound]

Lol

[half bone]

If I'm lucky and can keep Rei at max health, I survive only to die to sides.

[simple frost]

Especially if you get grassy terrain infonite

[half bone]

I don't have room for that.

[timid hound]

Toss Rei

Find a speed debuffer

[simple frost]

Is that 3/5 Elaine Voltage?

[half bone]

If I want a strike pair for that, all the ones I have that do that are garbage. There's basically just Pryce at this point.

[timid hound]

Try Pryce

[half bone]

that will be like throwing pebbles.

[timid hound]

I mean

Have you tried him?

[heavy fjord]

considering you dont really need Melony for much if youre going the antitoxin Lucky Skill route, Pryce is probably gonna be fine

[half bone]

I'm just going to slap Nita in Melony's place.

[heavy fjord]

he counters her other gimmick, will make surviving easier

[timid hound]

Is everyone else Antitoxin?

Keep in mind she applies poison multiple times

Not just once

[half bone]

I'm gonna end up doing that.

[timid hound]

[half bone]

And yes, that's why I was talking about how she burns through Safeguard uses.

[timid hound]

Ye

[half bone]

had to burn 20-30 cookies just to get that on Nita.

[ebon valve]

ariana and allister gourgeist have healing hand 4

[timid hound]

Misty:

[ebon valve]

2 is a little low

that or you could do sycamore mprs

Barry has Full heal

[timid hound]

Yeah but how could you say no to her

Anyways just grid antitoxin and bring a speed debuffer

And Lucy is easy

She does no damage provided those 2 conditions are met

[ebon valve]

or spend 100 on some broken bs item

if changing LS is less enjoyable, than just spend the 100 points

[timid hound]

That's a valid point

Or you can always spend 500 for apples in a cup

Guaranteed win

I think

[ebon valve]

wish you could rent apple; quit stage; and refund it.
I just want to try it.

[heavy fjord]

if youre losing with the apple cup youre probably doing some ridiculous challenge

[timid hound]

Same lol

I've never tried apple cup

And never will

500 is too high of an asking price

[heavy fjord]

like auto mode with triple eggmon levels of dumb

[timid hound]

I want to feel that

I want to go on that power trip

[heavy fjord]

yeah i would like to experience the broken for myself some time

[timid hound]

But 500 is just

[leaden wraith]

Can you get sale on apple cup?

[heavy fjord]

i doubt it

[ebon valve]

nope

[half bone]

Done.

[timid hound]

Grats

[timid hound]

Nah lol

[half bone]

honestly, I think I faced Anabel before and I would have prefered her. I've got the NC Kantrio, Icould have handled it.

[timid hound]

Anahell

[half bone]

I'm not saying she doesn't suck, I'd just rather fight an enemy that doesn't force me to burn resources.

[timid hound]

I mean Sages did say you could've just bought an item

[heavy fjord]

am i weird for enjoying the Anabel fight

[timid hound]

Nah

Anabel is a qt

I totally get it

[heavy fjord]

i like to see big number and shes the best place for me to deal big number

900k health is real nice for maximising a big tech nuke

[timid hound]

NCSerena enjoyer

[heavy fjord]

indeed

i think my record is like 850k

[timid hound]

I don't have a favorite or least favorite UB

But I would like to try to fight Argenta

Haven't faced her yet

[simple frost]

Against Anabel?

[heavy fjord]

yeah

[heavy fjord]

well, good news, you get your wish in 45 minutes

alright, it was 815k

[timid hound]

[craggy helm]

what do I do??? I’m paralyzing but still barely doing damage and cobalion is basically getting 2 shot

[wary kayak]

Your item loadout looks kind of... haphazard

Fighting Type Upgrade, Ice Zone damage multi, Fighting attack damage multi

So you're only dealing meaningful damage with fighting-type attacks in ice zone

[simple frost]

Id just buy the fighting upgrade tbh

[severe bronze]

she has the lowest hp btw

[simple frost]

Like at least x3 tbh

[severe bronze]

300k

thats like half thorton’s

[craggy helm]

I had 3 ice stages in a row 😭 I thought it was a good idea bc it kept chucking ice at me

[wary kayak]

How many ice zone providers even are there in the game...?

[simple frost]

Just two

Both limiteds

[severe bronze]

3 if you count egg glaceon

[wary kayak]

[severe bronze]

[wary kayak]

So yeah that was a waste of points. Anyway, live and learn. What's in the shop this time?

[craggy helm]

Look I thought it was a good idea at the time considering my rng

Da shop

[wary kayak]

The enemy has scaled up to the point where your one Fighting Upgrade probably won't keep up. So we can buy another stack, but also see if a more sensible damage multi has spawned

...oh sunova-- right, buying those other items now has them clogging up shop slots

[simple frost]

Yeah id grab the fighting upgrade

Just the fighting upgrade

[wary kayak]

When you buy a stackable item, it will be in the shop again for the rest of the rally... Reducing the number of other possible spawns

A bad upgrade is worse than useless because it makes it less likely to spawn a good one later

[craggy helm]

Feel like this should be be in pinned if it isn’t already and I just missed reading it lmao

[wary kayak]

Anyway, for now just buy the circular fighting item

And not the triangular one

At least you're gonna be at triple stats instead of double

[craggy helm]

Bought! :3

[simple frost]

Guess you can try to clear

Tbh you could run a support as well for points changing hau away.

Unless youve got a field unit in reserve

[wary kayak]

IIRC I ended my last run with either 1200% or 1600% total multi (3 and 4 or 4 and 4 in stat and dmg multis). I needed three master pairs to win the last round, though, and the fight was designed for two of them (Greninjas vs Anabel)

So if you don't have that kind of power, you may want to stack more than that

[craggy helm]

A team of 3 supports on a round 6 team? Isn't round 6 when it starts to get more gimmicky/difficult?

[simple frost]

3x or 4x stat boost enough all the way through. Depends on whose your final enemies i guezs

[wary kayak]

Some Supports fight well. Sycamore can nearly work as a striker

Dawn and Skyla have infamous nuke potential

[simple frost]

Youve got field though. 2nd support For points o.o if you want to

[timid hound]

If I can use 3 supports to beat Area 10, you can do so on area 6

[simple frost]

I wouldnt drop Rei though

[craggy helm]

Already used victor 😔 no more field

I FORGOR TO USE HAU’S SP ATK MP, I prob can win if I remember to use it 💀

[timid hound]

Looks like you have a path to victory

[simple frost]

Huhhu almost there

[hasty marlin]

if i was to use SSGladion on a strike or sprint bias rally, would you guys use a grid like this, or something different? i honestly dont really know what to prioritize in rally, feel like its fine to reset for tm mpr in maps where you have more than 1 good stage for him tho

[timid hound]

Yes

TM MPR is good if you can chain that unit back to back

Idk about Super Syncer tho

If you can get away without using BMove

[hasty marlin]

its just least energy way to get to bmove mpr

[timid hound]

Is Super Syncer or Brainpower cheaper

Ah ok

Hm

I guess then yeah

[hasty marlin]

brainpower is 10 super syncer is 7

oh wait i can fit brainpower actually

[timid hound]

I'm thinking of that X Speed MPR actually

But maybe that's too much fishing

Just making sure the gauge isn't a disaster lol

[hasty marlin]

lol yeah, im hoping that tm's FMN and propulsion can make up for possibly not attacking turn 3 on some teams

[timid hound]

Hope so

[hasty marlin]

doubt a fully capped bmove nuke is gonna be needed for most fights anyway

already seems like it hits like a truck without even doing much for it

esp since its got extend range on it or whatever

[timid hound]

Oh for sure

So long there isn't Wise Entryx3 or any annoying passive it'll chunk for sure

[hasty marlin]

if it wasnt for the bmove mpr tile id lowkey consider delaying his candy cause thats like the highest value tile i see on him

cause aside from that, i dont see his move level making a massive difference in his uses

[timid hound]

Other than B Move MPR, Brainpower and Overpower, and Sync Regen for Gauntlet regulars

[hasty marlin]

tbh i dont value Brainpower that much on its own, rather focus on the bmove if i had to pick one since its stronger than a brainpowered sync

if a team has good enough gauge i could prob do this regarding multiuse rally

having 21-24 energy to play with for rally is very nice either way

plan to give him PPE2 so i dont have acc issues on him, cause im not too worried about cs2 or anything for his dps

mans already gonna clear most content as-is

so rather just guarantee i land those -spatks

[static arch]

So for on type, you can get a 2nd b move with super effective next after while also getting SMUN stacks sync

[silent swift]

Huh ? I remember getting one for my first rally I might be remembering wrong though 😅

[elfin tendon]

Sounds too good to be true

[formal gull]

Explain the NC Rosa EBE I already encountered twice

[karmic briar]

Argenta UB seems a joke after rally

[fathom yacht]

UBs are easier in Rally by a lot though

I’m less “not scared of Argenta and Lucy” and more “holy fuck Palmer get away from me”

and I HAVE THE TEAM. Rei’s 1/5

[hasty marlin]

im really proud of myself regarding the argenta UB, and this basically tells me i have a viable team vs her with low shop spending compared to what i originally thought

if i get more practice on thorton and palmer i might be comfortable going to like 200x100 or something similar even

depending on the bonuses

i think thorton might stay as my biggest roadblock depending on what anni has in store for my favs

else him+palmer both would be roadblocks

very dependent on if Koraidon is present

altho i think its more likely to be the early summer MF timeframe but... cs final week makes it actually possible theoretically

3/5 of them are "answered" by the aether foundation pairs, so imo fighting and rock pairs are the highest on my list for early Anni predictions

[flint shell]

Is it bad that it took me more attempts during rally than the actual thing lmao

[hasty marlin]

TBF rally has more teambuilding restrictions

like wanting to match role boosts and your item boosts

so i dont see needing more attempts as that bad

[simple frost]

Is that the one with Alder? With a blissey that hyper beams?

[formal gull]

Nah it's the one with Bianca, Lenora and Cheren

[karmic briar]

So it’s not the ebe bc NCRosa ebe has alder with speed dropping conkeldurr

[west abyss]

Oop! Thanks for confirming for us bestie

[formal gull]

Shit right

I've been living a lie

I had that EBE blocked out of my memory

[formal gull]

Sorry arch that's misinformation 😭

I only remember alder ebe as the one for NC Calem lol

[west abyss]

Smh why would you do this to me

[formal gull]

For having unbased takes sometimes

[tiny pulsar]

do region boosts stack per unit?

e.g using three sinnoh units vs one sinnoh unit?

[hasty marlin]

No

[tiny pulsar]

thanks !

[hasty marlin]

One unit on the team is all thats needed

[tiny pulsar]

awesome

What do I do if I need to use a x2 EXR unit both early game and late game?

e.g:

Area 4: SS Roxie/NC Red

Area 5: NC Calem

Area 9: SS Roxie/NC Red

Area 10: NC Calem

---

I can't keep them on or I'll lose bonuses inbetween areas

do I just do the x2 on one stage?

[hasty marlin]

If you have to pick one place save for later in ones

[tiny pulsar]

yeah that's the plan

[hasty marlin]

Cause most of the time your exrs are your answers to harder zones

[tiny pulsar]

I see

I wasn't sure if it was common to do x2 EXR bonuses on multiple stages instead of just one

but the more I think about it, that must be extremely rare

[hasty marlin]

It depends on how far they are apart and if you’re sacrificing any bonuses for it

If you’re sacrificing more than 0.5x for it it’s not worth at all

It’s fine to sacrifice one stage of 0.5x tho if it means having them for 9/10

[tiny pulsar]

that's... almost all the time

[hasty marlin]

Yeah it’s very rare you’d have a repeat use except those sets that bias a role

Those are the main time where you can streak with a strong unit

Like I had one tech heavy and I used sstred earlygame as a result to hit the tech field areas iirc rather than saving him for late stages

Cause my box is wide enough to answer ubs with worse pairs with right boosts, thus getting me more overall score

Long as you’re not spending more than 150 extra pts over spending a strong unit early it’s fine to use them for bonus on very hard

Especially if it ends up being a lucky stage where each role is worth 300

[tiny pulsar]

thats fine, I always plan my runs

i have areas 2-10 mapped out

[hasty marlin]

Speaking of, how many roles do we have so far with 3+ units overlapping the EXR+Base combinations? I doubt we have enough for all combos, wondering which we missing

[tiny pulsar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855438548684374045/1205155099610185758/image.png?ex=65e091a6&is=65ce1ca6&hm=85bfb28b854d75d31baadd9224d8847c05bfc5aa82dd02f7143336bccdbc307c&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1608&height=935&

[hasty marlin]

Yeah same. Pomatools having something is a lifesaver

[tiny pulsar]

it's incredible

[hasty marlin]

Oh this is useful where’d you find this

[tiny pulsar]

pinned lmao

[hasty marlin]

Haha must’ve been recent I haven’t looked at pins much since day one

Tech support definitely the most populated I see

[tiny pulsar]

RIP Field+Sprint

saving it for Koriadon and Miradon

[hasty marlin]

Tbf they only just recently started giving those cakes

Yeah I suspect Koraidon miraidon either anni or early summer mfs

[tiny pulsar]

4.5 fr

[hasty marlin]

To give us our first ones of the combo

Hell I’ll be a little surprised if Koraidon isn’t 4.5

Cause of the cs schedule I only suspect fighting or rock for first pair of anni

Other three types are likely pushing for aether trio

[tiny pulsar]

they randomly give the aether trio koriadon and miradon for no thematic reason

[hasty marlin]

I’m expecting a situation like Adaman and irida where the professors get the bikes

That or paldea MCs

They’re the canon owners of the bikes. Will be a bit surprised if anyone else gets them first. Suspicion on professors first cause of the dlc fights

[tiny pulsar]

?

[hasty marlin]

Adaman and irida had their first versions be master fairs

[tiny pulsar]

ohhhh

i'd love to see professors also get lodge pairs too then

[hasty marlin]

Ofc bikes arriving would also mean we’d need a gen pool paldea or f2p paldea + region tag

Else mf passive won’t really work

Cause they’re prob waiting for a gen pool or f2p to add the paldea tag

[tiny pulsar]

gen pool Katy ong

[hasty marlin]

Bc else they can’t really use the theme for missions or bp

So from denas pov I doubt they’d see reason till something accessible exists

Could be proven wrong but

It’s a reasonable expectation imo

Cause dena wouldn’t make the missions require paid only themes i don’t think

[tiny pulsar]

nahh

[hasty marlin]

Ima sleep now. Getting bit off topic anyway. Gn

[tiny pulsar]

they might go the route ofonly have the "typing" missons

for the event though

[hasty marlin]

Mhm

[tiny pulsar]

night night 💚

[hasty marlin]

I can see “Researcher” and type themes for example

[tiny pulsar]

so guys, how do i... battle.... the rally??

I like how you can just press auto and actually complete the entire rally

#skill

[quiet tiger]

Finally got back to this, how do I even beat Argenta

[tiny pulsar]

ideally you would have stacked your starting boost 5 times for 500 points

nvm, not ideally

since you've spent so little, you can use an apple cup or go to hard if you really can't beat argenta

though that team 100% can

[leaden wraith]

What does the dango item do?

[quiet tiger]

4 Sync countdowns

Like after you use Sync you get another and another and another

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-gif-26093316

[tiny pulsar]

Something similar like these

Team 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBmBC_IQgbk

Team 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonMasters/comments/1as45xq/the_strongest_team_for_argentas_ultimate_battle/?share_id=hiwNmlBYJRQmwGNBu-qiW&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

[simple frost]

that's the UB fight though?

[oak jolt]

Is apple cup the combined effect of all 1 use items plus stat boost?

[tiny pulsar]

?

[simple frost]

if you fight her in Battle Rally, she gets +100% more stat boost.

in VeryHard i mean

[quiet tiger]

Won after buying the Dango. Adaman still has Stalwart leftover from Gauntlet. Not a bad run.

[karmic briar]

If you had any tech+support unit you could slap it instead of sslyra bc you already have GT from ssace and sslyra cannot flinch

[quiet tiger]

No way in hell I was using Viola (Regular)

[sudden heron]

After 6 BR finally got a lucky stage

[static arch]

So UB Argenta is harder than BR

[fossil sandal]

The opposite

BR has double stats

[leaden wraith]

in BR you have boosts to balance it out

and even make your run a cakewalk in VH

[wary kayak]

There are stat boost 1use items as well, so it's just that too

[shadow osprey]

unlucky when it comes to dual roles

[shadow osprey]

fighting her in sun is ballsy

i had the option to do so for 150 more points but gave up and took SS Kris for rain

Zerena was too fat

[wary kayak]

It's ballsy to fight the water dog in sun?

What kind of weird gimmick is going on there?

[burnt fox]

How do I utilize rally points early?

Do I spend them or just save them?

[hasty marlin]

I think you’re confusing this for anabel buddy

Argenta is a rain based fight unlike anabel who is a sun based one

[shadow osprey]

AH yeah sorry

I just fought Anabel at the time

and I did Argenta (non BR) just before for the 300 gems

the second they give me a cool unit that happens to be Field/Sprint im so feeding it yellow candies + Cake

because that setup is the bane of my existence and if it happens twice and I'm Reiless it's just said

[heavy fjord]

It kinda depends

Like, what roles you have, what starting boost you got, your box as a whole

[static arch]

I needed NC Blue to save me for the regular Argenta UB

Tapu bulu at 1/5 wasn't helping celebi and Adam enough somehow

[ebon valve]

Depends if you want to cruise through the mode, you could buy something like 3-5 boosts.

Otherwise if you want to max out rewards, you want to spend as little as possible and form teams that counter each stage while matching the role as much as possible.

It’s up to rng though. If you get a lot of basic CS stages, then the teams you can form can be a lot more flexible.

If you get too many event stages then your team flexibility decreases and losing invested roster members can put a stop to your express ride to the finish.

Best thing to do is see if there is a sale for a good boost, then just try the stage without committing purchases.

[shadow osprey]

try to hunt for a flexible damage multiplier

something like 100% on crit is probably the best, but plan with the very last 2-3 stages in mind

and i highly recommend using this tool to know types ahead https://ng-pomatools.web.app/battle-rally

another useful thing is to give your strongest units cakes if they have them to make them more flexible and net you some double bonuses

[tiny pulsar]

Not too shabby

[craggy helm]

Crying, I need heeeeelp please….so closeeeee

[tiny pulsar]

Do they start with hail?

[craggy helm]

Nope

[tiny pulsar]

Take out the sides first

[craggy helm]

Why would taking out the sides help?

[wary kayak]

Could time it for turn denial
And sides tend to have the vast majority of the enemy's speed total, meaning the boss can actually run out of gauges a few turns after you wipe out the sides

[craggy helm]

Knocking out the sides makes it worse it seems + melony has G-Max AND sync so 💀

[wary kayak]

Rock and fire weakpoints... So this fight might've been made for her son Gordie

[craggy helm]

I do have gordie....hes only at 1/5 cause he doesn't like showing up in the ticket pool 💀

[wary kayak]

Indeed.
He doesn't match the role bonuses, but it's Sprint/Field so you may not be able to fill the team with them anyway

Wonder how Gordie was meant to counter it. Do sun and Fire Rebuff somehow make this fight easier?

Maybe speed down?

And is there any good damage multi in the shop?

[craggy helm]

Don't think gordie can do it at 1/5 😭 honestly might just replace nemona with someone else, she's not offering much besides the role bonus although she can reduce sync count....

Shop be upon ye, thought about getting the speed boost and run Olivia….but for 250…idk

[wary kayak]

You've kinda fallen behind on item boosts tbh, which might be contributing a lot to the problem. Likely due to the two useless ones taking up space

Hm...

What passives does Melony even have? If we knew, it might be easier to plan against them

[craggy helm]

Gonna be honest, haven't been paying attention to what pops up lmao

But these are the boss hints if that helps???

[wary kayak]

I found a Youtube video
Team pinpoint entry so their moves don't miss
She uses her max and then her sync; her team gains Sp/Def buffs when she syncs, and she gains regen on herself
I didn't see any conditional damage multis or mitigations

[craggy helm]

Hmm….im gonna try replacing nemona w/ someone who can give speed and use Olivia to see if that works….one round without a role boost will be fine right?

UGHHHH

[simple frost]

wait did Rei get replaced already?

or is this a new run? HUM

[craggy helm]

???

[simple frost]

like you cleared Area 6 with Rei right?

Use Rei and just give him support

he'll be able to kill them with +3 Stat and +1 Move up

[craggy helm]

I don’t have rei….

[simple frost]

ooof.

which other Fighting characters you've got left?

[craggy helm]

I could use SSA Cynthia but idk

[simple frost]

dang sprint and field.

what about your rock roster just to punch Melony?

[craggy helm]

This is a old pic, I leveled up gordie and tried using him and it didn't work

[simple frost]

Hmmm. you could run uh.... Aura Cynthia + Bea + Gauge with +3 stats and +1 move

if you had Aura Cynthia's Sprint Role, i think you could also buy a 2nd Move Damage Up for Fighting

[craggy helm]

BROOOO seriously????? I could probably keep Cynthia maybe? I used her MP tho….

And of course I used nemona’s MP as well 🙄

Rng screwing me over

[static arch]

People without huge rosters should be using lens imo

[craggy helm]

SSA Cynthia has survived like 3 rounds, bless 3rd anni units

[simple frost]

it helps that SSA Cynthia gets Protect

twice (entry + Sync)

which is why i love using her as my main tank with Neo Champion Rosa for buffs

then my 3rd sync pair will either be someone that gets the buff

or whatnot, depends on what your RNG tells ya

[craggy helm]

Honestly I probably could've used SSA Cynthia from the get-go and kept her for all 10 rounds 😂

[simple frost]

she can do it if she has the stat buffs.

i put her at like 3 buffs, and she's still pretty solid without inbattle stat buffs

Might've used Potion, but its like Area 9 or something

hum you've got something on sale. anyways

i'd probably grab the stat boost.

[craggy helm]

my beloved

[simple frost]

Lol.

oh if you're gonna buy the Apple Cup, i'd probably not buy the stat boost then.

Up to you

just get enough points to like 6k though.

[craggy helm]

Okay now time for champion stadium, less stress doing that LMAOOOO

[simple frost]

who was your last match though?

[craggy helm]

Darach, I think it was the ultimate battle?

[simple frost]

Aura Cynthia could clear that huhu. ah wells.

[tiny pulsar]

DID SOMEONE SAY SUPPORT??"

[simple frost]

Oh maaan. that's so nice.

what's the buff?

[tiny pulsar]

Area 5: NC Calem
Area 9: Leon/NC Blue/SS Serena
Area 10: NC Rosa

[tiny pulsar]

:(

[simple frost]

Damn.

[tiny pulsar]

the game giveth and the game taketh away

[simple frost]

Aura Cynthia haver?

[tiny pulsar]

hell no

[simple frost]

dang

[tiny pulsar]

I'll be okay

[simple frost]

well, either you try to get another stat boost....

or work with it i guess.

[tiny pulsar]

i'll work with it

[mild notch]

physical strike boost in later stages isn't that great when your ontype is fairy

i struggle with defenses

i'm facing piers and need physical which only leaves me with BP Valerie

[tiny pulsar]

looks like my PB run is happening !

[tiny pulsar]

7800 on area 10...

I can get Thorton down to 30% with no items

no apple cup rather

X3 starter bonus

i'll stop here for now since i think i'll be soft-stuck for a while

[ebon valve]

x3 stats is pretty good, need to check what passive you're not countering

[leaden wraith]

that team has no way to debuff defense

and no good physical offensive tools

[gentle maple]

NC leaf with rolex clears that easy

[tiny pulsar]

defense crunch 2

did i ping

[severe bronze]

with that much increased stats and defense crush they can probably bruteforce it

even better if blue is rolex and gridded him with defense down on sync

[leaden wraith]

Makes sense i always forget about that tile on Blue's grid

[half bone]

Jesus, this is a bad rotation.

And I got rock type boost

[fathom yacht]

Yeah both of the Sprint Field starting lineups are hot trash

If you get Sprint field round 1 brace for impact

[half bone]

I'm gonna wait until Monday comesi around and try to get more.

Simply because... well, I'm really hoping I can get something that can help cover my sprint and field stuff.

[leaden wraith]

if you can, wait for Riley

[oblique breach]

I have 47 hours to finish this

At area 1

[half bone]

Well, I went into it with 3 passes.

[hasty marlin]

Riley is such a troll coming right on weekly reset

[half bone]

Oh, Gladion and Magearna get Sprint too.

and I"m planning to get them.

that'll take the edge off. Especially with LuSSa getting EX too.

[hasty marlin]

so youre fine with losing 300 gems, or did you already finish one this week, typh?

[half bone]

I finished one this week, yeah.

[hasty marlin]

alright, just making sure

personally i didnt bother saving any passes cause i needed all 5 to empty day 1 shop

[simple frost]

Uh if you can't clear Very Hard at all, might as well just clear it for gems o-o/

[half bone]

I got all the cakes.

I mean, the cake vouchers

so I'm good for a bit.

[hasty marlin]

i got the cake coins and the PUs for day 1

[simple frost]

clearing the missions give you +1 voucher tbh.

[hasty marlin]

and im almost done this months stuff

[hasty marlin]

typh already got theirs for this week they said

[simple frost]

oh

[hasty marlin]

so theyre fine

[simple frost]

but gems though? you're gonna miss gems? D:

[half bone]

I got the gems too

[hasty marlin]

he/she said they finished one this week

you only need to clear one per week

theres no other mission than claiming the pass

[simple frost]

guess you're ready for next week i guess

[half bone]

Yep. Just gonna wait for banner options to give me more choices for what's to come.

[hasty marlin]

idt im gonna day 1 exr Riley, cause i wanna keep my omni cake tickets for anni

[simple frost]

tbh... i'm thinking of giving him Strike Cake

[hasty marlin]

i gave it to blue already this week

[simple frost]

but i wanna see what's coming first though.

Currently got like 2 Strike Cakes, 2 Tech Cakes, 1 Support Cake, and a bunch of Vouchers + Daily Tickets

[hasty marlin]

im holding off for anni datamine before i spend any more cakes beyond gladion's

13 tech/support coins and 11 field coins atm

0 strike and 19 sprint

[simple frost]

I'm like near for a Support Cake + field Cake

like 2-3 more weeks

(Forgot i've got a Sprint Cake, but no targets atm.... outside of Chase.)

[hasty marlin]

if i get a paulo copy or decide to go for SS Steven ill supp cake one of them, else ill give it to lussa. tech cake idk which ill end up settling on between calem and lillie unless new unit has

just need to know what the anni pairs are before i figure out banner plans beyond gladion

[simple frost]

i'd probably cake people thaat's gonna be really good in Battle Rally tbh xD

or thaata really needs help, like SS Lusa

[hasty marlin]

fair, im likely to get ahead on the exrs though pretty quickly

cause a good chunk of my big MF targets already have the feature i feel

theres only like 3 people here id give it to, 4 if marnies exr is anythhing but tech

idrc about ssrc too much these days bc i just clear ghost with EVictor and lillie usually

pfs prob gonna be a very slow trickle for now for exr targets since theres so many of those i dont even own

[oak jolt]

Now I'm saving some cuz I didn't had the time to clear day one shop, so unless I didn't cleared the shop by the last week I can save some passes

[hasty marlin]

yeah, thats fair. i had time day 1 thankfully so i went for it, needed the PU boost else id have stopped at the vouchers

cause i really dont feel safe when i go below like 40 PU when it comes to EBEs and favs

prob wont have to do that for a while again since im getting close to having exd basically anything i give a damn about

main remaining things are like, lodge pairs maybe? lmao. lodge n / lodge serena / lodge lillie can wait tho

[oak jolt]

I wasted too much time trying to figure how the mode worked before wasting my pass day one, and then I just managed to sneak a pair of runs for 9 vouchers

[devout edge]

Is it a good idea to pick up the battle cup thing for battle 10 always?

[simple frost]

if you don't have sync pairs to deal with the gimmicks

or not enough stat boosts/damage ups ... or just the free buff at the start

Its okay i guess o_o

You can also do Hard Mode to get your points as well.

its really up to you if you want to maximize your Points or not.

[devout edge]

Alright

Alright my goal is to get a sprint role cake, what’s the best power ups to have for the entire battle rally run?

[hasty marlin]

If you want to just cruise through the whole thing barring a little bit of effort in stage ten, aim for around 300-400 of Stat Up % and Move Up % by the end

And use the pomatools rally planner thingy to check your maps roles rather than bothering with scope

[devout edge]

Alright will do

[hasty marlin]

Most boxes unless newer should be able to play into role matching game with those sorts of boosts and have plenty of points leftover to turn into coin vouchers by end of the month

[leaden wraith]

do note that doing Hard stage without cup yields higher points than doing VH with cup

[hasty marlin]

I average like rough 8k per run myself after spending

[leaden wraith]

so if you cant beat VH stage, just go to H instead

to squeeze most points possible

[hasty marlin]

Yeah, and there’s some chart floating around iirc that gives an idea of the role combo to stage total scores for if you need to compare rewards to judge how much points might be worth spending for the clear with more roles matching a10

Like if you get mango in shop for a10 that can turn some teams that’d fail a10 into success

[devout edge]

Oh yeah do one time items give more points in the end?

[crisp token]

What do you mean give more points?

[devout edge]

Like the 300 points will it be more if I use one time use items?

[crisp token]

Items do not change the amount of points you win, no

[simple frost]

Its either you spend item for a safer run, or you run with nothing and aim to beat the mode with no items used.

[hasty marlin]

[simple frost]

That latter one is extremely difficult depending on your own Sync Pair's status

like, do you have enough EX Role users?

Would you be okay using the See Through All Item at the start

[hasty marlin]

I mainly spend because I like being able to cruise off the matching roles with exr shenanigans rather than really needing to

[simple frost]

so you can plan ahead and whatnot.

I usuaally just spend for Stat Boosts

[hasty marlin]

This is a waste unless your box is really thin

[leaden wraith]

agreed

[hasty marlin]

I can’t see it being worth when pomatools option exists

Cause the roles matter the most for scoring

[simple frost]

yep.

[crisp token]

If you really can't beat a stage just doing Hard will still give you more points than overspending on items

[simple frost]

For me, i typically just have to aim for 6k and above each week. I don't need the extra 5stsar power ups, the cake coin vouchers pay for themselves.

like, around 6.5k

[hasty marlin]

I wasted 1500 medals effectively on those binoculars day one since we didn’t have the info of the role preset stuff fully just yet when I did my first streak of runs. if we had the info we have now I’d have never touched that item beyond my first time playing the mode to learn

[simple frost]

haha, i actually used around 1.5k medals as well in the first week

but mostly for busted sheningans "Oh so these are the effects of items/stat boosts"

[leaden wraith]

sounds like what i did too at least i did 7000 - 8000+ constantly so it was not really a waste

[simple frost]

but well, i did go for people that can play without buffs or havae entry passives

like Mix Red

[hasty marlin]

Yeah I was scoring decently and even committed the cakes like 2-3 runs in when I recognized how profitable the mode was

So I still emptied shop of what I came for (although barely due to the spending of like 1k per run and grabbing pus)

[leaden wraith]

i didnt cake some units until this week, when i realized that i got a bad role set

NC Calem, NC Blue and Penny, these are my most used supports so its totally a worthy investment

[hasty marlin]

I’ve just been mostly spending cakes as I get them now that I understand the rewards better.

[leaden wraith]

im debating on caking Lenora and Foebe too but i dont use them

[simple frost]

hum for me, i use Aura Cynthia + NC Rosa

they got caked before Battle Rally though.

during battle rally, i caked SST Red and eventually Mix Red

[hasty marlin]

Sprint and field cakes are always worth it when it’s in context of rally. Can never have enough of those

[leaden wraith]

im still judging on my units' usage before caking, so im saving cakes for SS Lusamine (and potentially SS Gladion, if anni doesnt introduce any faves)

[simple frost]

SS Steven going to be really good with EX Role too.

[leaden wraith]

thats a slight regret of mine when i decided to skip Chase

[hasty marlin]

I was gonna do this but then I realized how horrid strike+field was and got it on a run and was like “fuck this ncblue get over here and save my ass Kthx”

[leaden wraith]

i only have 2 Sprint not counting upcoming Riley, and even then said 2 Sprint are SSA Cynthia and NC Rosa

[leaden wraith]

should have pulled Mixed and NY Wallace

[hasty marlin]

Else I was setting my eyes on Riley cake

[hasty marlin]

I have Wallace

[leaden wraith]

[hasty marlin]

Sorry missed button and don’t think I turned ping off

[leaden wraith]

nah dw, i dont mind pings from friends

[hasty marlin]

does that mean we’re friends?

[leaden wraith]

Strike is a good EXR on him generally, you should consider it

[hasty marlin]

That put a bigger smile on my face than I ever expected something like that to haha

[hasty marlin]

Yeah I was gonna eventually due to Riley being a mega fav either way. It just means he has to wait for prob sometime in march or April at latest

Cause I had little to no ub viable strike/field tanks that I could rely on so had to have blue bail me out for extra score

I still do the more useful exrs first when I can. Like I did nc red before any of those support with tech exr options

And will prob do Lillie too before calem

At least with tech I have viable tanks unlike strike where they’re hard to come by

Anyway ima sleep now gn gakon

[sudden heron]

Now isn't that a steal

[simple frost]

looks good 😮

[sudden heron]

Support sprint area 10, might as well do the hard cuz fuck you i am rng

[simple frost]

whose your Very Hard fight? o_o

[worthy tusk]

Is the rival boost a good start to the rally?

[severe bronze]

if you have lots of limited rival then yes

mc rival and champion are good start imo

[worthy tusk]

I have 26 or so it seems, but a good portion are free pairs from BP and lodge.

I just don't think I have any with sprint or field.

Is there any with that role even if I give them cake?

[leaden wraith]

Paulo, Nemona and SS Gladion (EXR) have Sprint